lore-discussion-spoilers

[kind bobcat]

Yes, the clothes has patterns

[undone harbor]

we remember them too

[kind bobcat]

back in prelaunch beta, the chest pattern g l o w s

[tender dune]

GINKO SAVE US

[undone harbor]

clothes in sky mostly have diamonds and stuff

triangles

[thin dirge]

Yeah, but I definitely don’t remember sleeves having triangles there

[hushed steeple]

Ginko pls....

Weve been here for hours

[undone harbor]

sky kingdom likes edgy things

[thin dirge]

Look at the sleeves closely

[tender dune]

what- i need context i just arrived-

[undone harbor]

yeah they have that

ok so we are speculating about the language sung in sky

[hushed steeple]

Plus our 3rd and 2nd big brains are dead

[tender dune]

oo

[undone harbor]

in the credits and the isle

[hushed steeple]

I'm the 4th i think I'm next

[thin dirge]

Look here

[undone harbor]

I've never have big brain before so

yes we saw it

[hushed steeple]

Your smelling your armpits?

[undone harbor]

it just happens to be on everyone in sky's clothes

[thin dirge]

I’m not smelling my armpits-

[undone harbor]

it's a simple design,but quite fashionable

[thin dirge]

I was checking the diamond symbol thing on our clothes

Then I noticed the triangles on our sleeves

[gilded fossil]

/looks like an ancestor

[undone harbor]

/looks like an ancestor
@gilded fossil what have you done

[hushed steeple]

No your smelling your armpits stop making excuses Butterfly

[thin dirge]

What chat am I in..?

[undone harbor]

lore

yeah we be like that sometimes

[gilded fossil]

/sorry butter

[hushed steeple]

Also someone give Ginko context before our number 1 big brain is gone

[undone harbor]

I gave them-

[hushed steeple]

Oh ok

[thin dirge]

I thought the diamond was just some leftover thing from Beta, not lore related, until I saw those patterns

[tender dune]

i have no brain

[hushed steeple]

NO-

[undone harbor]

but the thought we might have smell intrigues me

[thin dirge]

Now I’m convinced they’re intentional

[hushed steeple]

but the thought we might have smell intrigues me
@undone harbor what have i done

[kind bobcat]

The diamond shapes are part of ancestor culture

[thin dirge]

Who else has the same diamond symbol, and also had triangle patterns on their clothes?

[undone harbor]

we might smell like butter

[kind bobcat]

wait does that mean we're related to ancestors

[undone harbor]

Who else has the same diamond symbol, and also had triangle patterns on their clothes?
@thin dirge elders and spirits

[thin dirge]

Elders.

[kind bobcat]

[thin dirge]

Spirits do not have that diamond symbol on their chest.

Only. Elders.

[undone harbor]

ok so following the thing where elders fall from the sky too

[kind bobcat]

But we also have the ancestor motives.

[tender dune]

i mean isle is the beginning and credit is the end so makes sense why they'd be similar. most songs are like that too

[thin dirge]

Yall see where I’m getting here?

[undone harbor]

yeah Megan likes diamonds and triangles

[kind bobcat]

yes, the skykids are sort of like an elder 2.0

[thin dirge]

We’re related to Elders to some extent-

Or, maybe were

[hushed steeple]

Well yea

[kind bobcat]

we're a new generation of elders'nt

[hushed steeple]

They used the leftover light to create us

[thin dirge]

Cause they look faded out like how Elders looked like without being glowy-

[hushed steeple]

Also there were 12 elders

6 died i think

[thin dirge]

Not really confirmed tho

Plus, thats an old concept

[gilded fossil]

/tho ancesstors clothes also have that pattern??

[thin dirge]

Yeah

[hushed steeple]

Yep

[kind bobcat]

Also there were 12 elders
@hushed steeple what

[thin dirge]

But not the diamond symbol we have on our chest

Only Elders have that

[kind bobcat]

i mean, 8 and 9 elders are understandable.

but 12?

elaborate please

i am intrigued

[gilded fossil]

/ooh, did the elders taught the ancestors the pattern onto their clothes

[thin dirge]

It’s from an old concept of the Valley story arc

There’s statues there that represent Ancestors, now Elders

In old Valley concept

[kind bobcat]

according to isle murals the ancestors predate the elders

the diamond shapes might've existed far before their arrival

[hushed steeple]

What if the conlang song is conlang like what Goob said what if it's just pure conlang

Also what have i done

[thin dirge]

No, I mean, the old concept of Elders

There were statues of them in old concept Valley

But in the concept, they originally planned for there to be more than 6 statues of those Elders

[hushed steeple]

Maybe there are more realms?

[thin dirge]

Intentionally left there to make it look like there’s more than 6

[hushed steeple]

[thin dirge]

But this is an old concept

To me, it seems really outdated

[kind bobcat]

explain to me the 12 elders theory

i-

[thin dirge]

I just explained it...

[solar relic]

can you show what concept it is

[kind bobcat]

which concept

[hushed steeple]

Actually guys there are 7 elders

[hushed steeple]

Isle

Prarie

Forest

Valley

Valley 2

Wasteland

Then Vault

[thin dirge]

Yeah, Elders were know as Ancestors and Ancestor spirits were known as Ancients

[tender dune]

eden

[tawny summit]

Oh my god reading yall discussing stuff feels like going to the underground vault library then found a table with some people and i join without understanding anything but interested anyways

[hushed steeple]

King doesn't count he's the leader

[thin dirge]

In the old concept I mean

[kind bobcat]

He's still an elder

[hushed steeple]

:O?

[glass turret]

Wait eden has its elder?

[kind bobcat]

Yes

[thin dirge]

Yeah, Elders were know as Ancestors and Ancestor spirits were known as Ancients in old concept

[glass turret]

Oh

[gilded fossil]

/maybe

[glass turret]

Im just nee to the sky lore

[thin dirge]

So there’s only 6 Ancestors in old concepts

[tender dune]

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[gilded fossil]

/aaah lore moff

[thin dirge]

This excludes Prince

[hushed steeple]

Guys use me and Ginko as your big brains

[thin dirge]

You know, you’re the one wrecking my brain rn

[hushed steeple]

Haha

Btw Jen why do you speak with slashes?

[tender dune]

its just her thing

[hushed steeple]

Ah ok

[thin dirge]

Yep

[kind bobcat]

It's Jen.

[thin dirge]

Here it is

[tender dune]

trademark

[kind bobcat]

Jen isn't jen with her slashes

[hushed steeple]

Yep that one

[thin dirge]

It’s in phase 5

[hushed steeple]

And Silver (my name) isn't Silver without

[kind bobcat]

"Ancestors who rose to divine status"

Probably champions i guess?

[gilded fossil]

/ why do i always leave when people ask why i speak with slashes tho

[bitter shale]

yeee

[kind bobcat]

Valley was where competitive stuff was held.

[thin dirge]

“More than 6 statues to suggest unseen Ancestors”

[kind bobcat]

Ancestors, normal people

[solar relic]

ah yeah, then that was back when ancestors were the names for our current elders

[bitter shale]

i mean, we got those dots on each constellation

[kind bobcat]

wiat whAt

[bitter shale]

maybe there is ancestors that we havent meet or hidden

[thin dirge]

If you count in that image, there’s other 6 that’s been cut off

[solar relic]

actually elders is quite a recent term iirc

[thin dirge]

So it’s 12

[hushed steeple]

And Elders are like the government

[gilded fossil]

/monarchs

[kind bobcat]

still it's a concept

[bitter shale]

se we are talking about hidden ancestors?

[hushed steeple]

I need hug someone pls hug i need hug to power my brain

[thin dirge]

I still think it’s outdated tho

Like, really outdated

[hushed steeple]

Yey

[kind bobcat]

the canon-ness of concepts are judged by how much of it made it in-game

if you can find those statues in valley, you might be on to something

[hushed steeple]

[gilded fossil]

/do we have any idea how the statues would look like

[thin dirge]

Idk

[bitter shale]

what statues-

[thin dirge]

My brain’s currently off

[tender dune]

other than the golden statues in valley probs

[bitter shale]

oh nvm i see it

[hushed steeple]

Guys please slow down the mods are coming soon

Ima just watch as you guys talk

[bitter shale]

or maybe it reffering to those gravestones before fly race?

[hushed steeple]

[bitter shale]

i mean... can those be called as statues?

english can be weird sometimes

[gilded fossil]

/also the phase 5 thing had one with "meeting the goddess" did they tried to do the hero's journey?

[tender dune]

these graves maybe https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/632004389137154048/760094253912817696

[hushed steeple]

Hey Jen what do you mean by all these phase things

[bitter shale]

yeahh those gravestones!

i bet those were polished with gold long time ago

[gilded fossil]

#lore-discussion-spoilers message

[bitter shale]

im hungry but also sleepy lol-

anyway

[gilded fossil]

/phase 5 was valley

[hushed steeple]

Ah ok

Huh ?

[gilded fossil]

/story beat 3 was meeting the goddess

[bitter shale]

a goddess... they might reffering to the original concept of valley elder (the priestess)

[tawny summit]

Could it be the two ancestors got reborn? Regarding to the 8/10 gravestones

Or the others (graveworkers or future tellers) thought the two might die but nah they don't

[hushed steeple]

Who are those two

[tawny summit]

Also valley have two elders. Would this mean something or i'm just assuming things

[bitter shale]

i... found that story line quite strange

like, are ancestors suppose to fight the creatures of light?

[hushed steeple]

dead lorr

[bitter shale]

read the story line again

the history part

blue colored

[thin dirge]

Thats just concept tho

[tawny summit]

Wait, did some theory said they died cause of fighting the creatures if light?

[gilded fossil]

/yea tho

[tawny summit]

What's the cause of death tho

[bitter shale]

its so blurry i cant-

[gilded fossil]

/kumo not suuure about that

[bitter shale]

@tawny summit likely the overuse of dark stones

dunno

maybe

[hushed steeple]

What are dark stones

[nocturne zealot]

what does darkstones do actually

[thin dirge]

Absorb the Flame

[bitter shale]

thet old concept of valley was suppose to be very modern, their fires are decorative and no creatures dare to enter it

[kind bobcat]

Absorb light.

[thin dirge]

Creates energy

[kind bobcat]

Refined to make power diamonds

[tawny summit]

Oh that red stones in eden?

[bitter shale]

those stones taht whack you on eden

[thin dirge]

Dark stone may be an old concept tho

New concept is probably different and they create diamonds instead of just finding some stones of darkness there

[bitter shale]

hmmm

thats sounds kinda sus ngl

i mean... forest are where they suppose to mine those stones right?

[thin dirge]

They use trees

[bitter shale]

maybe they did create diamond from dark stones ._.

[nocturne zealot]

there's a spirit called light miner

[thin dirge]

The gate of the Forest shrine hints how diamonds are made

[hushed steeple]

They use trees to mine trees wjich are used to mine stone?

[nocturne zealot]

they're mining light?

[gilded fossil]

/zac seems to be a new face

[bitter shale]

lore moff?

also butter which forest shrine-

[tender dune]

should i paste it?

[nocturne zealot]

yes moff here

[tawny summit]

I'm curious what is the light miner mining?

[tender dune]

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[bitter shale]

light

[thin dirge]

The gate of the Forest shrine hints how diamonds are made
There’s a cutscene that shows it.
The door to where you get the Elder Cutscene

[bitter shale]

oh... well... i always skipped through it sooo

[gilded fossil]

/there's also a light farmer

[thin dirge]

Also, most players already have it opened it for you

[gilded fossil]

/laugh spirit i believe

[thin dirge]

Well, for me at least

[bitter shale]

blame my phone for always crashing whenever cutscene started to play

[nocturne zealot]

light catcher

[tender dune]

about the tearful light miner, i did see a small part in the cave thats brighter than the surrounding. was gonna take a pic but then thought nah probs lighting issue as usual

[hushed steeple]

Guys my brain is broken

[tawny summit]

Oh i thought the word "light" in light miner meant "not weight"---

[bitter shale]

oh yeah i also see the red reflection in forest, just like your picture gink

[tender dune]

i meant at the spirit cave. there is a small white area inside

[tawny summit]

Oh i thought the word "light" in light miner meant "not weight"---
*not heavy pardon my byelingual moment

[tender dune]

felt that

[wide night]

+1

what did I miss s

how can u even mine light????

[tender dune]

conlang language, old concept talk, miners talk

[glad vapor]

i know this is a little old subject but you know those stone piles you see around? could they be road markers like used in ancient Rome? wait no crying spirit made those so maybe not i guess

[wide night]

would that mean there was an ore for light???

i know this is a little old subject but you know those stone piles you see around? could they be road markers like used in ancient Rome? wait no crying spirit made those so maybe not i guess
oh I thought these were graves?

like they used whatever they had to make the grave

Since they were stuck inside?

[glad vapor]

yeah idk i guess they are bc the crying spirit made some for her buddies but ancient rome had stone piled road markers

[tender dune]

possible @/ Rain the ones at are most likely simple gravemarkers for us to understand that her friends died. but the ones in the entrances and exits are suspicious

oh shoot, sorry for the ping

[wide night]

Do the piles of stone appear anywhere else I cant remember?

[glad vapor]

in the sunny forest cave area and at a gate in forest is all i remember...

[thin dirge]

Oh wow

The faded out triangle designs are also on our pants-

[wide night]

mmmm triangles...lots of them

do they not also appear on gates?

or smth like that

like the markings?

[tender dune]

just those 2 areas

[wide night]

probably stylistic choice?

does anyone have pics for them stones or is it forest exploring times for me?

[glad vapor]

im busy at the moment so i can't

[tender dune]

i do im looking for them

[tame forum]

Anyone know why does vault crumble at the part where whale comes out when heading to orbit-?

[thin dirge]

It’s not the thing at Vault

Cause that is waaayyy bigger than the one at Vault

It’s Elder-sized big

You could try flying to it or something?

And you’ll see that it’s big

[tame forum]

ohh, that picture was taken on Sunday

I’ll head to vaults last level

[nocturne zealot]

i think
vault is originally built in eden
but it shatters
then it exist as memory in the current vault

[thin dirge]

I mean, the one at the ascent to Orbit is a lot bigger than the normal one

It’s huge

[glad vapor]

thanks!

[tender dune]

np

[thin dirge]

The one you see at the ascent is the exact same as the one in Vault. However, it’s a lot bigger somehow

[solar relic]

https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/632004389137154048/756841423130591242 here's that structure in ascent that you see in vault, it's really big

[glad vapor]

they have different number of stones so maybe that means something?

[tender dune]

its just dugged in the grass i think

mmmgoodbyeenglish

[glad vapor]

haha

[nocturne zealot]

[glad vapor]

https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/632004389137154048/756841423130591242 here's that structure in ascent that you see in vault, it's really big
@solar relic all the masks are cracked (or were they like that before bc i don't really pay attention

[tender dune]

the one in sunnyside has 4 stone plates, dunno about the first area stone pile

all the masks are cracked (or were they like that before bc i don't really pay attention
they look normal tbh

[wide night]

stupid question probs but what are these supposed to be

i go to find the stones and I come back for snth else lol

[tender dune]

clocks for a rainbow

[wide night]

oh nice

Thought so too

so where in sunny forest exactly? Underground or?

[tender dune]

underground in the exit

[wide night]

maybe I'm too distracted by the tasty wax

okk lemme go see

[tender dune]

update: the pale spot in spirit area makes a different sound now i doubt its a lighting issue

With and without lamp

[livid valley]

Oooo

[tender dune]

it makes a different sound amio

i ran over the other places and this one goes "pok"

[hushed steeple]

Need to check in real quick🏎️

[tender dune]

lemme record the sound

[hushed steeple]

Oh that'll make my work easier

Thanks

[tender dune]

once this moff leaves

[hushed steeple]

[heavy eagle]

Maybe it's part of the tree that's near the cave

[tender dune]

ill check how close the tree is

[heavy eagle]

Isn't it right outside?

[livid valley]

once this moff leaves
Honk

[tender dune]

its inside

[heavy eagle]

No i mean the tree

[tender dune]

dang

yeah its the tree

[livid valley]

Does it only make the sound of you move?

If*

[tender dune]

the tree is making the same sound as that light portion

[heavy eagle]

See Malamatina big brain

[tawny summit]

stupid question probs but what are these supposed to be
Does it means something that it's covered in dark plant?

[livid valley]

Nah it's the clock for rainbow

[tawny summit]

Ooh

I just knew about that lmao so when the dots met there will be rainbow?

[heavy eagle]

Also abt the stacked stones Ginko sent pics of earlier, yesterday i said those might be makeshift memorials for low class/working class spirits who couldn't afford proper graves

[tender dune]

i think #questions-and-help know the rainbow time better than us better ask them

same with the mushroom circle time

[hushed steeple]

I know this is out of the blue but I have this question

Are all the elders non-binary

[tawny summit]

They are up to interpretation ig

[hushed steeple]

Like is there even a concept of gender in sky?

[heavy eagle]

Not rlly

[tender dune]

« Elders are very ancient. We don't know their age or birthdays, gender, or if age & gender existed » canon doc

[hushed steeple]

Hmm

[tender dune]

they're all genderless and like kumo said up to interpretation if u wanna say she/he

we do end up saying she and he to certain elders and spirits so

[tawny summit]

I don't think skykids have parents too like
They just exist there out of nowhere

[wide night]

About the sound thing, wouldn't that probably be just part of a tree?

[tender dune]

i suggest reading the pins or starting with the canon doc first

[wide night]

That's what wood sounds like

[heavy eagle]

||"what's your gender?" "star" "no what's in your pants" "light"||

[wide night]

ingame

[tender dune]

About the sound thing, wouldn't that probably be just part of a tree?
it was!

[wide night]

i have a baby observation

Look very closely at the far right

Last dude had a book

I don't think it's clear

[heavy eagle]

"Dear diary, today i died"

[hushed steeple]

i suggest reading the pins or starting with the canon doc first
@tender dune I did but thank you

[glad vapor]

stupid question probs but what are these supposed to be
@wide night there's actually a similar looking stone in prarie, the blue dot inside the circle is placed differently tho, just underneath the blue dot on top. might be a clock, or a compass

[wide night]

i was goning to say maybe they were going to school or smth and good stuck and died but then maybe they went in to study some rocks and got stuck and died

[tender dune]

if u mean the one in the middle area of praire with the mantas, the clock is there for an old boat that was ridable. it was removed tho so only the clock remains

[wide night]

also the stones are totally different, might that mean she made temp graves then when she got out they actually made real graves for them and the cutscenes is her going back there to mourn?

[livid valley]

That is likely

[tender dune]

most likely temp graves

and for us to understand they died

[wide night]

makesens

what even started this convo about the miner I forgot lol

[glad vapor]

if u mean the one in the middle area of praire with the mantas, the clock is there for an old boat that was ridable. it was removed tho so only the clock remains
@tender dune ohhhhhhh ok thx

[wide night]

the"light" on the name?

**in

[heavy eagle]

In general those stacked stones reappear in forest, i wonder if they can be spotted anywhere else?

[tender dune]

i tried looking everywhere for them in forest, its just those 2 stacks

feel free to look tho im blind

[heavy eagle]

And then the ones that the miner spirit makes

[wide night]

maybe because most people who died in forest died due to accidents or smth and there partners has to do smth quick?

forgot to send lol

[tawny summit]

what even started this convo about the miner I forgot lol
The valley graves -> overuse of dark stones -> ??? light stones -> light miner
Yeah that's what i remember about the convo

[heavy eagle]

maybe because most people who died in forest died due to accidents or smth and there partners has to do smth quick?
@wide night ^ Probably! We don't knoe abt the customs in sky, if there was a religious system, any beliefs that existed or anything

[thin flare]

I feel like this was what krills are before.

[glad vapor]

maybe because most people who died in forest died due to accidents or smth and there partners has to do smth quick?
@wide night but they're all in front of gates...

[wide night]

yes but maybe forest wasn't a place were people were resident and only went through for other reasons

I can't word it

[heavy eagle]

Imma bring back the class system based on graves theory i said yesterday :

Stacked stones for those who were in lower classes / couldn't afford for a grave / memorial

Blue memorial : low-middle / middle class, they could afford for graves, used for spirits

Yellow / gold memorial [seen in Valley] : for important publiv figures / high class ancestors / champions

[hushed steeple]

Well imo krills are in sky world from beginning macniii

[wide night]

i agree with your theory except the stacked stones were probably temp

If they were for the common class wouldn't we find more? Yet again they could probably be knocked easily

[heavy eagle]

For some reason that specific social structure here makes me think that forest would be like countries at the peak of industeial revolution, the possibility of working accidents and poverty were v likely — whereas areas like the Valley, that are full cities, would have more wealth

[thin flare]

@hushed steeple and this white krill is the last untainted one.

[heavy eagle]

I don't remember if we see blue graves in Prairie, but considering that they were the ones catching butterflies and making boats, they could be in a p good economical condition

[hushed steeple]

That's manta elder macnii

[livid valley]

Pft

[heavy eagle]

i agree with your theory except the stacked stones were probably temp
@wide night tbh i can see that, otherwise, since the rain is toxic apparently, the stones of the temp graves could have changed due to the falling rain with its harmful chemicals

[thin flare]

@hushed steeple ok I didn't know that draft

[livid valley]

K

[hushed steeple]

A close pic of that in game one

[heavy eagle]

Imagine one day the devs accidentally switch the krill and manta programming on accident and you go to Sanctuary and the mantas start beating you 😭😭😭

[glad vapor]

off subject but can you touch it or do you go through?

A close pic of that in game one
@hushed steeple

[hushed steeple]

It's transparent

[glad vapor]

aww

[hushed steeple]

I posted a pic earlier marking where you can see her from that close

[wide night]

why does rain affect us but not mantas?

is it jus tbc they're literal light?

[tawny summit]

So the reason skykids take damage out of rain is because the rain is toxic?

[wide night]

does that mean they don't have a physical body???

[heavy eagle]

I mean, maybe

The same way that in Wasteland the water is poluted and it kills us

[wide night]

i mean we never really touch mantas we kind just float on them

[hushed steeple]

They're pure light creature mayby that's why lily?

[tawny summit]

So the reason skykids take damage out of rain is because the rain is toxic?
I was wondering about this because in-land water won't hurt them but rain does

[heavy eagle]

There are animals who can withstand poison or harsh conditions due to their skin, perhaps mantas have thick skin and immunity to the rain

[tawny summit]

Acid rain, possibly

[wide night]

so no physical body.?

[hushed steeple]

Not acid rain i think

[tawny summit]

Sky is post-apocalyptic after all

[glad vapor]

but why does the rain stop when you step onto the last bridge? is it just because for the players or is it something with lore

[heavy eagle]

Also, i saw someone refer to the manta killer krill's building as a theater, was is a theater or a factory???

[wide night]

since mantas are just pure light does that mean... they've been just waves all this time??

[heavy eagle]

Hallucinations

[livid valley]

Imo is a factory I mean nothing looks comfortable for you to sit and look at the manta get crushed

[heavy eagle]

Sky kids are learning from ghosts and hallucinate funky animals yaaaaay

[hushed steeple]

Maybe they don't exists lily

[wide night]

me and the boys chilling on creatures on from the electromagnetic spectrum

that's scary

manta plea

but they call back?

when you spam call they call back at u

[heavy eagle]

Is there any way to save the manta

[wide night]

sacrificing yourself?

over and over m

[hushed steeple]

In wasteland?

[wide night]

?

[heavy eagle]

Got it, we do that now boyz

Yes in GW

[hushed steeple]

Don't go to wasteland you'll never see her dying

[heavy eagle]

ODJCHD

AND THEN SEE HER AS A GHOST IN VAULT? NO THANK YOU 😭

[livid valley]

It's 5000 percent dead

[tawny summit]

OH MY GOD THAT ONE GHOST MANTA CALL SPOT

Same size with the krill food manta

[livid valley]

I mean every manta is almost the same size tho

[wide night]

when you spam call they call back at u
since mantas call back they must be alive and real right???right??

[livid valley]

It could be a different one

Plus the manta in Gw keep appearing for some reason

[tawny summit]

It's smaller tho

But yeah

[wide night]

on the topic of mantas why do they know the way like how do they lead u is it just natural instinct??

[tawny summit]

That might be just an ingame thing and not connected to the lore //regarding the wasteland manta thing

[heavy eagle]

There's no worse feeling in sky than getting attached to the manta that follows you and then see it die in gw

[livid valley]

That might be just an ingame thing and not connected to the lore
A suffering to the eyes

[thin dirge]

Wait, that manta followed you?

[heavy eagle]

Especially if it's your first time playing

I mean

Yeah??? It kinda does

[wide night]

it does show you where to go next

[glad vapor]

it does???

[wide night]

Like if you free the mantas and not do the bridge they circle around there

[tender dune]

which manta?

[wide night]

any ?

not sure

[thin dirge]

The one that dies in GW

[wide night]

Maybe you don't even need to free it

[heavy eagle]

Mantas are the best friend of skids

[tawny summit]

I think it's only in forest?

[wide night]

no?

[tender dune]

forest manta follow u for a bit. gw one doesnt follow its also unridable

[wide night]

wait maybe yeah

[livid valley]

Mantas are the best friend of skids
Not in prarie

[tawny summit]

Prairie manta are kidnappers

[wide night]

doesn't it start following your from prairie?

[heavy eagle]

Not in prarie
@livid valley they're not friends if you're a coward and unwilling to tame them

[wide night]

so not only are they kidnappers, stalkers too???

[heavy eagle]

NO

THEY ARE JUST FLYING DOGGOS

[glad vapor]

oh no

[tender dune]

😅 i think each manta u meet in each realm is different from the other.

[wide night]

please manta I want to have good faith in u, I love u

[livid valley]

Oh I tame them and then crush then

[heavy eagle]

Like, dogs don't stalk you, they follow you bc they love you

[livid valley]

The dog is a robot

[heavy eagle]

Mantas are to sky kids what dogs are to humans

[tender dune]

the usual common theory is that the birds are showing u the way as we can see from isle elder cutscene

they're everywhere even in eden

[thin dirge]

Why did I suddenly have a thought about the Prince secretly having some Manta cemetry for the Mantas that died for the production of power diamonds...

[heavy eagle]

The birds are the real hero of the game everyone else go home

[wide night]

i guess the question is why do all the light creatures flow to eden

Oh wait

Lol

[tender dune]

to rebirth

[livid valley]

To die

I mean

No

[thin dirge]

To The Light I guess

[tawny summit]

I think the forest manta starts accompanying you from the first cutscene until the entrance to forest boneyard

[glad vapor]

oof

[tawny summit]

That's what i remember

[wide night]

yes when you enter forest it's there

[tawny summit]

I dont see manta following me in that green forest cave tho

[tender dune]

nah its just the 2 that follow u in forest boneyard (i love them thats why i remember them )

[glad vapor]

Oh YEAH! and then it gives u a little pat when you need to recharge

yes when you enter forest it's there
@wide night

[heavy eagle]

Theories that make the Prince seem like a good guy make me soft, considering he's a literal child,

[thin dirge]

Yeah

That's why I often hesitate on the theory that Prince is a bad guy

[tender dune]

here u go the manta followers https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/575818672476782634/752446605982171140

[thin dirge]

If Prince was a genuine bad guy, he wouldn't even be saved in the concepts

[heavy eagle]

Jdhdhd i literally can't bring myself to think that the Prince would become the Corrupted king

[delicate coral]

children are evil though

[thin dirge]

Can be, yea

[heavy eagle]

Children are wonderful

[tender dune]

bbye have fun theorizing

[thin dirge]

They're also ppl who don't know the "bad"

My younger sister is an example of this

[heavy eagle]

I gtg, i wanna draw sky stuff after my classes but idk if I'll be able to hhh

[delicate coral]

In any event I think it's probably less that the king himself is bad and more that the king is a representation of the pollution/greed/general bad ethical practises of civilisation as a whole

[heavy eagle]

Anywyaddb have fun yall!

[thin dirge]

I still think they're more of a child than anything tho. While Prince could be a spoiled child, sure, its hard for me to imagine the Prince/King being like that... idk, just doesn't seem to sit well with me.
That's just my opinion tho.
Reika did say it was left to us to interpret the King/Prince's role in the lore. We can have our own headcanons whether they're greedy spoiled child or some innocent child who easily made mistakes.

[glad vapor]

what does the king do exactly? or has done?

[thin dirge]

Well, its actually very vague

Some theorize he's a bad guy who's gone selfish and stuff

Some theorize they're just someone who made mistakes or something like that

[wide night]

i know everyone probably moved on from the topic when is as gone but I'm gonna bring it back anyways hoho

so if we assume the 4 stacked stones are temporary graves and we've seen they've only been found in forest so far, forest could have been a mostly unpopulated area that for whatever reason there arent much people living there so there is a high chance for people to get lost (also it's a forest)

now remember how we said mantas only guide you in forest, maybe that's because forest is the place where people get lost the most ?mantas just don't want us to die

?

[teal smelt]

sky takes places in bikini bottom

drops mic

[wide night]

reverse bikini bottom maybe

also if the mantas are mostly trying to guide us why does it just stop at the spirit in the first krill area? it isn't trying to be like hide here and there it's just...watch me die? then after all it could just be like that to show players what happens when t

[hushed steeple]

It's to aware new players

[wide night]

yeah but my question is, it JUST that?

that'd be sad

[hushed steeple]

You know journey has a same scene where it shows a creature get attacked by the guardian there when players reach the wasteland like area, (i forgot the name)

[wide night]

hh I never played journey you just mean it's TGC's way to help us learn right?

"watch and learn"?

[hushed steeple]

I never played too .. just watched gameplay walkthrough

Maybe

[wide night]

sad I wish there was more the selfless manta, it deserves better

gotta love how there is no animation to it poofing it just disappears

[hushed steeple]

I wish to krill those mantas in prairie village area,they always kidnapped me

[kind bobcat]

then who will ferry us to the temple

[wide night]

true as a moth they were the msot helpful of all

[hushed steeple]

10 wedge cape

[wide night]

my moth brain couldn't think of the fact that I can just go near the clouds to recharge

lol

[hazy moon]

when u miss the manta ride in prairie village and u only have one wedge cape : 👁👄👁

[vapid bobcat]

do forest/valley and wasteland exist at the same time canonically? i mean wasteland is a broken version of those two realms so i was curious

[gilded fossil]

/maybe maybe not

[frail hearth]

Wdym broken version-

[gilded fossil]

/i think they exist at the same time tho,

[vapid bobcat]

hm

[lethal stump]

there’s no answer, it’s all up to you

[vapid bobcat]

wasteland's terrain is actually ruins of forest and valley if u see closely, koma

[gilded fossil]

/also, nothing about it is confirmed by devs

[vapid bobcat]

hmmmmm okey thank u for the answers

[gilded fossil]

/wait wut? it has valley ruins as well?

[vapid bobcat]

yep

the stadium

the battlefield

[gilded fossil]

/hmmm???

[vapid bobcat]

i heard so

i could be wrong for all i know

but im like 80 % sure

[hushed steeple]

As someone who's spent an insane amount of time in gw, I haven't seen many structural coincidences

[lethal stump]

same

GW is like my home, aside from the factory it’s rather different

[vapid bobcat]

hmmmmmm

i thought battlefield looked a lot like valley stadium

[gilded fossil]

/the roof tho

[vapid bobcat]

with high pillars and stuff

[gilded fossil]

/same architecture with the roofs in valley and gw

[vapid bobcat]

the entrance looks kinda similar ngl

[hushed steeple]

The entrance?

[frail hearth]

The diamond factory is the same as forest's, that is the only coincidence I have seen

[vapid bobcat]

entrance in battlefield

[hushed steeple]

Which one's the entrance?

[vapid bobcat]

i mean its pretty obvious when u go to battlefield

i dont hab a pic rn so i cant show it

[hushed steeple]

Uh, do you mean the broken window we use as passageway?

[vapid bobcat]

hm no

am talking about battlefield

its rly big, just like the door/space we go through when we finish valley race

[lethal stump]

what we go through has a mesh pattern along the top, it’s not there in valley

[vapid bobcat]

hm i dunno its just another theory

[gilded fossil]

/ mat pat noises

[frail hearth]

Wait, wasteland used to be a part of valley, right? Maybe that's why they look similar

[gilded fossil]

/maybe? in the 7 days of sky they called valley "golden valley" instead of valley of triumph

[vapid bobcat]

the one krill area in gw is the final forest temple that connects to valley, it kinda makes sense that the next areas in gw is valley

[frail hearth]

It's scary and sad to imagine forest ending up like wasteland,,

[vapid bobcat]

yea😔

[hushed steeple]

This is the entrance we were talking about (just the top tho)

[gilded fossil]

/i like how the mesh is more complicated than the one we see in forest

[hushed steeple]

Hm, I hadn't noticed that

Forest temple's mesh

Mesh in gw temple

[gilded fossil]

/huh

/with this angel it looks the same?

[wide night]

the last two look the same

[hushed steeple]

Yeah, I noticed that as well

And they also look like the doors in forest

[gilded fossil]

/but gw one has a shape of the prince at the bottom

[hushed steeple]

Forest has it on top

[wide night]

ok so I'm 99% sure I'm reading too much into it bUT

you know how basically all the birds we ever see are going towards eden/ "the Light"?

the only instance where we see birds not doing the same is in isle

first birds you ever see

The ones coming out of the cave

I might be blind but... I tried to count them and each time they turned out to be 8

8 birds always going against the flow

this info maybe be absolutely usless but thought I'd put it out there

[thin dirge]

O.O

Woah

Lemme check

[hushed steeple]

Yeah, sometimes we theorists have our attention in some weird stuff
the other day I was counting shields in gw battlefield

Most of meshes, structures are same in game to reduce game size

Hm, that's a fair point

[thin dirge]

Saw them

[gilded fossil]

/noom was that you in the vault doc
/counting the sheilds

[thin dirge]

Imma check again cause I didn’t get the screenshot

[hushed steeple]

/noom was that you in the vault doc
Vault doc?

[lethal stump]

no, bluespirit counted the shields iirc

[gilded fossil]

/ah

[thin dirge]

It looks like there’s more than 8 tho

Oh wait, I think there is 8... or 7?

Yep, 8

[frail hearth]

MmMm must represent the elders!1!

[gilded fossil]

/there's 7?

/oh waaaaait

[thin dirge]

I counted again, and it’s 8

[gilded fossil]

/tHeRe's 8 eLdeRs

[thin dirge]

Last one had 9 tho...

The second pic

Meh, gonna check again

[hushed steeple]

Jen, which vault doc? I'm getting lost in the pins again ;;

[lethal stump]

the theory doc by butter

[gilded fossil]

/ the og butter lol

[thin dirge]

I think it is 8

Yeah

[gilded fossil]

/oooh nice

[thin dirge]

Some clip through the walls though

Of the cave I mean

[gilded fossil]

/i hope it means sth and not sth lore ppl looked too hard into

[thin dirge]

Probably could mean something

[wide night]

I'm at the optician and this how I decide to use my time while waiting lol

hmmhmm 8 birds

what could they ever mean

[thin dirge]

I wanna see if something happens to those birds when they fly away...

[wide night]

I think they just keep flying around right above the cave

[thin dirge]

I wanna try getting to them before they get out of the cave

[wide night]

I kinda wanna get someone with piggy back and a table and just go as high as possible next to the birds

I think once I was too close when I took a pic so they scattered and one went back into the cave then out

it's a cute detail

Them scattering when you take a pic

[sour cradle]

HI !

[gilded fossil]

/wb slickback

[wide night]

hi were looking too deep into 8 birds in isle wanna join?lol

[gilded fossil]

/^

[sour cradle]

LEMEMIN

[wide night]

i wish discord can just add linking on mobile

[lethal stump]

it’s there

[sour cradle]

[wide night]

you can just scroll up a bit or I'll take screenshot

oh really?

howwow

[sour cradle]

OOOOOO

[lethal stump]

hold down on the message, some options will appear on screen
you might have to scroll down, you’ll see a message with a link symbol beside it saying « copy message link »

[wide night]

I'm on android? it's not there?

[gentle sparrow]

If you don't see the copy message link option, just <<Share>>
And copy it there

[lethal stump]

can i direct you to the great scholar; Google ?

[wide night]

I've already went to google before and the wise scholar told me "only pc"

[lethal stump]

[sour goblet]

[wide night]

maybe there was an update after I looked up

anYwSays

[gentle sparrow]

Welp im an android user too

Wait give me a min imma send an ss about how you do it
And now goodbye,
--Lurking mode on--

[sour goblet]

C...Can I share smth I thought of for lore 👉👈

[lethal stump]

yes !

[gilded fossil]

/yesssss

[sour cradle]

YES

[hushed steeple]

Sure, go ahead!

[gilded fossil]

/do please sharee

[sour cradle]

FEED US

[sour goblet]

So I thought of something last night. This probably has been talked about before and I may even be repeating words, but I felt that I should share this revelation.

Last night, when my friends and I were meeting the elders, I noticed how they don’t fly/don’t have capes (gw has one so they are excluded). This made me wonder, why is this? That’s when I thought... What if the children’s lives follow something similar to the Indian Caste system? Meaning, the children reincarnate multiple times to climb up the six castes of rebirth. Perhaps, the spirits determine the quality of the children’s actions through their lives. The elders perhaps once had capes/wings, but upon reaching their finest form, there was no need for them, the spirits letting them die in peace. They had reached their purest form through acts of heroism, kindness, and whatever else they had achieved before ascension. Now, they are our deities.

[gilded fossil]

/ooooh fressssh take!

[sour cradle]

I se where we going

And I like it

[gilded fossil]

/ is this what the devs meant by skids will never grow up to be elders????

[sour cradle]

—We are. Not in our purest kind??—

[hushed steeple]

Our karma is not good enough for us to be our purest form
it's not my fault crabs are so flippable

[gilded fossil]

/i left a moth onto the catapult with 0 warmning so that's...probably why

[sour goblet]

You monster (jk

[gilded fossil]

/hmm, what would the king be then koda?

[sour cradle]

wow you

[gilded fossil]

/koda can you climb down the caste system?

[wide night]

we do disturb wildlife by flipping crabs and riding animals

[sour cradle]

@sour goblet go on

[wide night]

we also burn things down

lol

[sour goblet]

As the real Caste system operates, you are capable of climbing either up or down the ladder. It’s a long process before reaching ascension. It’s basically like learning how to accept yourself and others and being kind no matter the reason or cause.

[modest skiff]

I saw a ping in this channel but idk how far back it was

[lethal stump]

checking your pings might help

the little @ symbol beside your account tab

[modest skiff]

Ohh

Someone reacted to my interpretation of the credits song

[gilded fossil]

/yea also sorry about that they pinged by accident

[modest skiff]

Nah its cool

[sour cradle]

** I’m thinking that we burn them darkness to get candles it’s a way of the devs saying “ burn the dark side of some one to get their good side”**

[hexed carbon]

hello, can I join this lore?

[gilded fossil]

/do please join my friend!!!

[hushed steeple]

Yes please!

[sour cradle]

YES

[sour goblet]

That brings me to think, like previously said, it’s mentioned that these children will never grow up. Perhaps there is something keeping them from reaching their purest form...

The spirits.
The spirits lurk amongst the land, restless until found by the children, being relived again and again. Because of this, they wish the children to live forever again and again, unlike themselves. Perhaps they have selfish desires to see these children born forever because they never had the chance to fully live their lives.

[gilded fossil]

/ oh my the only thing we agree is that lore= vague and people = join.
/anything else sparks debate and stuff

/koda, that's really sad

[sour goblet]

YEAH :(((

[hexed carbon]

oh god thats deep-

[sour cradle]

That brings me to think, like previously said, it’s mentioned that these children will never grow up. Perhaps there is something keeping them from reaching their purest form...

The spirits.
The spirits lurk amongst the land, restless until found by the children, being relived again and again. Because of this, they wish the children to live forever again and again, unlike themselves. Perhaps they have selfish desires to see these children born forever because they never had the chance to fully live their lives.
@sour goblet True, AND ALSO TO KEEP IT HOL ITS NAME “children”

HOLD-

[wide night]

do you consider us the lowest caste?

and elders the highest?

If so then what's in between?

[hexed carbon]

children is the main thing about this theory?

[gilded fossil]

/which caste would the prince and/or king be

[wide night]

so many questions

[sour cradle]

/which caste would the prince and/or king be
@gilded fossil The highland

[hushed steeple]

I dont think there’s really castes, Lily. Since Skids are kinda an Elder subspecies anyway (neither the same nor a different species)

[sour cradle]

”IM TAKING THE HIGH GROUND”

[gilded fossil]

/dud coulda been kicked down tho

[sour goblet]

Elders are definitely the highest. I don’t believe the children are the lowest caste. Perhaps in this universe, the lowest caste are ones with darkness.

[tawny summit]

Oh my god i just spent like two hours reading the accumulated theory doc

Worth it

[gilded fossil]

”IM TAKING THE HIGH GROUND”
/ imagine king t-posing

[sour goblet]

LOL

[sour cradle]

OOOOOO

[hexed carbon]

good job, on reading the whole doc!

[frail hearth]

King flossing for an hour

[gilded fossil]

Elders are definitely the highest. I don’t believe the children are the lowest caste. Perhaps in this universe, the lowest caste are ones with darkness.
/so that's why the krilss bonked us!!! they hated us on the higher caste

[sour cradle]

King flossing for an hour
@frail hearth Loop dancin

[hexed carbon]

bruh I want the wl to loop dance

[wide night]

King flossing for an hour
this but it's just the king

[sour goblet]

That’s what our light represents. Our value/ascension in the caste.

[lethal stump]

coughs lore ?

[hushed steeple]

Though is the caste system notably unfair or, like a lot of them, are the dark creatueres convinced that they deserve their position?

[frail hearth]

JSYDH

[hexed carbon]

@wide night , ah yes

[sour cradle]

KDJDKDJ

[wide night]

ok back to lore

[sour goblet]

Though is the caste system notably unfair or, like a lot of them, are the dark creatueres convinced that they deserve their position?
@hushed steeple I definitely believe they think they believe in their cause, or that they deserve to be as they are. I wonder whether or not krill are simple minded like animals, though.

[hushed steeple]

Would krills be worsening their karma by hitting us or would their karma grow by doing that?

[gilded fossil]

/oooh maybe they needed the light to get sum gud karrma

[tawny summit]

Now i understood the gatorade joke

[gilded fossil]

/looool kumo

[sour goblet]

Would krills be worsening their karma by hitting us or would their karma grow by doing that?
@hushed steeple I think krill are the lowest of the low. There’s no turning back for them, so what’s the point of turning to the light? Only seek to destroy.

[hexed carbon]

now that I think about, omg.

[hushed steeple]

/oooh maybe they needed the light to get sum gud karrma
Karma = light?

[sturdy cobalt]

Maybe every time they hit us they get a little bit of light

[gilded fossil]

/oh i like that koda

[tawny summit]

But krillls do dodge our lights, not absorbing them

[lethal stump]

it is mentioned they « eat » light in the MOTD

[sour cradle]

why do I always think krills are basically dark kids In one body wanting revenge,and yet wanna be like the sky kids free, roaming, exploring

[gilded fossil]

/they too low anywways, why bother to go up?

[sour goblet]

cluster of hungry souls

[gilded fossil]

/oh yea everyone seen the lore moff doc right?

[sour cradle]

cluster of hungry souls
@sour goblet Souls wanting revenge ((oh god this is just fnaf vibe))

[hexed carbon]

why do I always think krills are basically dark kids In one body wanting revenge,and yet wanna be like the sky kids free, roaming, exploring
They might be dead children, who were like spirits, but associated with something dark and became krills?

[sour cradle]

They might be dead children, who were like spirits, but associated with something dark and became krills? I
@hexed carbon I guess

[gilded fossil]

/thatskyplayer youre making me think of that one very disturbing centipide

[hexed carbon]

I’m-

[worn citrus]

What if the concept of venturing into the Eye of Eden was basically just to repeat the endless cycle of saving, sacrificing, and becoming one of those statues?
After we save those statues and die, we disappear into the ground, and we are very much the same to the other fallen light, in terms on appearances. What if the amount of light to be returned to those statues was indefinite? Like there will always be another batch of fallen children waiting to be saved, but as you save them, you ironically become one like them, except now instead, waiting to be saved by another sky kid
We don't know how many sky kids there were, as well as those fallen lights as statues, and because of what I said above, our attempts to save and break through the storm ironically helps it to persist? Like there will always be a batch of fallen lights waiting to be saved, and always another sky kid, to take their place, but ultimately add up to the pile, now sharing the same fate to those they tried to save?
I know we get reborn and all, go up to the orbit and stuff, but who's to say that was the old us? It's more likely that we left the old us petrified in the middle of the storm, while our new selves get to start over
We both put ourselves in that kind of struggle to end up in limbo, and at the same time, ascension.

[sour goblet]

I don’t think it’s the children who became dark, however. I like to think that the children follow a set path of life because they are wired to, much like animals and insects. They don’t think about why they do it, they just do. It’s their nature. Perhaps the krill are dark spirits instead...

[hushed steeple]

They might be dead children, who were like spirits, but associated with something dark and became krills?

@hexed carbon Conga line of cursed Skids

[sour cradle]

I guess the theory of dark kids stays

[lethal stump]

one thing: krills are shown to exist alongside ancestors when they were alive, but skids didn’t exist alongside ancestors

[gilded fossil]

/Faux that briings up the question of who was the first batch of skids?

[sour goblet]

one thing: krills are shown to exist alongside ancestors when they were alive, but skids didn’t exist alongside ancestors

THIS

[gilded fossil]

/in eden

[tawny summit]

Does sky creatures need foods

[worn citrus]

the ones that presumably tried to save the King/Prince from their downfall?

[sour goblet]

THATS WHY I THINK HOW I PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED...

[tawny summit]

They're like made of either darkness or light does they do,, eating?

[hushed steeple]

Also on what Faux said: first, I think we leave our bodies behind but keep our souls and memories, and second, I’m forever partial to my head canon that the statues we save in Eden become little moff Skykids

[sour goblet]

Does sky creatures need foods
@tawny summit they’re made of light, so they don’t need to. But perhaps they can. like in Steven universe lol

[worn citrus]

those were the original sky kids, and we are nothing short of a replacement, since there is no seemingly possible end to the cycle

[tawny summit]

Also just mentioning this, light isnt visible if there's no darkness

[worn citrus]

maybe that's why we still get to relive all the other spirits
because our efforts would then just be useless in the end if it persists no matter the effort

and we never actually changed anything

just did see and relive the memories of the original sky kids

[sour goblet]

Also just mentioning this, light isnt visible if there's no darkness
Perhaps that’s why dark creatures believe they deserve to be as they are, but for all the wrong reasons.

[hexed carbon]

maybe that's why we still get to relive all the other spirits
because our efforts would then just be useless in the end if it persists no matter the effort
But, how did the spirits died?

[tawny summit]

So my guess is the light and dark creatures are complementary, one won't exist if there's no the other

[worn citrus]

maybe that's why all those spirits still stay at Earth, they were never saved
or not. There's no way of saying for sure

[sour cradle]

WHAT IF the krills are basically sky kids who were ** supposed** to be skykids but instead they are failed “projects”

[sour goblet]

Perhaps the spirits stayed on the physical plane because they were never able to share their light.

[hushed steeple]

The ecology of Sky consists of light and dark. Both are natural and just part of how the world works. That bit is confirmed to be canon

[worn citrus]

it's possible that everything was in a timeloop

[lethal stump]

time loop theory—

[sour cradle]

And now are trying to prevent us from our own light so we become like em

[hexed carbon]

WHAT IF the krills are basically sky kids who were ** supposed** to be skykids but instead they are failed “projects”
In what kind of wad did they fail? They can fail in light, or darkness?

[modest gull]

me is confusszled

[lethal stump]

@modest gull

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[modest gull]

what is happening tho

thanks bricky

[sour cradle]

There is NO LIGHT with out an opposite!,

[tawny summit]

Also i've been thinking about this thing: did skykids lose their memories when they reborn? The ingame system didn't reset our friendship/spirit nodes (yeah that would be very annoying) when we reborn but game system and lore might differ ig

[modest gull]

woah

[gilded fossil]

/eeeeey lore moffff

[sour cradle]

Also i've been thinking about this thing: did skykids lose their memories when they reborn? The ingame system didn't reset our friendship/spirit nodes (yeah that would be very annoying) when we reborn but game system and lore might differ ig
@tawny summit I don’t think so

[modest gull]

Its big brain tiem

megabrib

[sour goblet]

I agree with slick, definitely not

[modest gull]

so what are we theorising 'bout today?

[sour cradle]

so what are we theorising today?
@modest gull EVERYTHING

[hexed carbon]

children of light, and darkness I think

[sour cradle]

[tawny summit]

Lots of thing

[modest gull]

E V E R Y T H I N G I S E E

[sour goblet]

My theory that we’ve been building upon is that the children follow something similar to the Indian Caste system, among other things.

[modest gull]

well if the children of darkness existed, there could be a possiblity but we haven't seen any references to them yet

[tawny summit]

I'm a lore moff starting today and i'm already absorbed in this
Wordbuilding stuff are interesting

[modest gull]

but this is theorising land so yeh

[sour cradle]

Light kids->skykids->DARK KIDS/ADULTS??

[modest gull]

everything is considered

[sour goblet]

Ground: Adults of the Dark

[modest gull]

[hexed carbon]

Light kids->skykids->DARK KIDS/ADULTS??
That might be close to elders

[sour cradle]

HOL UP

[gilded fossil]

/still thinking why prince is white tho

[sour cradle]

THE ELDERS ARE KINDA DARK

[modest gull]

i like how the elders were named after the hebrew alphabets

[tawny summit]

Skykids are nearly neutral

[modest gull]

in fanon world

[gilded fossil]

i like how the elders were named after the hebrew alphabets
/yea it was in the concepts, no longer canon, but we use them anyways

[modest gull]

aleph, daleth, teth

[sour cradle]

Tru

[modest gull]

kinda reminds me of someone

[tawny summit]

The elders are out of light? That's why in the elder cutscenes we give light to them

[hexed carbon]

THE ELDERS ARE KINDA DARK
They were out of power, I think since they needed more light

[modest gull]

The elders are out of light? That's why in the elder cutscenes we give light to them
@tawny summit

yeah i think so

[worn citrus]

so what Im trying to say earlier was
The Sky Kids are essentially stuck in limbo, unable to ascend into the orbit permanently, or get petrified for good, living their lives over and over again, without their prior awareness about it

[modest gull]

oof

well thats torture

[gilded fossil]

/who let a kid die?

[worn citrus]

well I get to honk and doot my horn so I ain't complaining

[modest gull]

idk

[hushed steeple]

That’s also kinda why I don’t believe the time loop theory just because it’s sad and I don’t wanna

[sour goblet]

What’s messed is these kids all got these dead parents and siblings

[modest gull]

well

yeah

[worn citrus]

but the more sad a thing is, the more likely it is true

Reality is often disappointing

[modest gull]

i wanna theorize 'bout the krill

[worn citrus]

and they luv ya too much

[sour cradle]

Soo we die to GET NEW THINGS??

[worn citrus]

so much they ram their heads to ya instead of proper kisses

[sour cradle]

HOL UP

[modest gull]

t h e y r e j u s t g i v i n g h u g s

👀 👀 👀

[sour goblet]

“I died and all I got was this dumb cape”

[modest gull]

OOF

[worn citrus]

lmao HAHAHAHA

[modest gull]

so what do you guys think bout the krills

[worn citrus]

said cape can make you fly

[sour goblet]

I need to make that a meme for #sky-memes

[worn citrus]

it ain't dumb fr

[sour cradle]

“I won a hair but at what cost”

[sour goblet]

HAHA YES SLICK

[heavy eagle]

I'm done w my tutor lesson and I'm here to point sth out and link it with philosophy again

[worn citrus]

Krills are angry anti social shrimps that get too excited when they see someone else

[hushed steeple]

Me : wanting to join in but dont know how to join in also confused and not confused

Continue on -

[modest gull]

👀

well in my case

[gilded fossil]

/ hi pastel

[sour goblet]

We were thinking about how krill are clumps of dark creatures/spirits

[modest gull]

the krills seem to hate/collect or destroy the light

they hang round things that steal light

[gilded fossil]

/yes do please add your thought but no pressure pastel

[modest gull]

i.e eden and the polluted water

(me thinking they like garbage like the racoons outside my house)

[gilded fossil]

/ark krills tho?

/tho krill in arrk hangs near clouds

[sour cradle]

They

[modest gull]

yeah

[sour goblet]

/ark krills tho?
Enchantment ancestors said “shoo”

[sour cradle]

T O M A K E U S F E E L D O O M

👁️👁️

[hushed steeple]

/yes do please add your thought but no pressure pastel

I really dont have much thing to share, so like yeahh, I will prolly join in any time

[modest gull]

i think that krills are like corrupted light or smth idk anymore

[sour goblet]

Feel free!

Well one thing we all can agree on is. They are darkness. It’s how they came to be darkness that’s the question.

[hexed carbon]

can we krill krills and they loose power?

[modest gull]

idk what say anymore tho

[gilded fossil]

/ oh woww several ppl are typing that's like super rare in lore chat

[sour goblet]

Or perhaps krill were never turned to darkness and were always existing.

[modest gull]

👀 👀

[sour cradle]

As a moth I always thought they are some thing we should kill, although F U N N Y T H I N G I S T H A T W E A R E K I D S H O WW W W W

[gilded fossil]

/its okay celestial, no need to big brain all the time

[sour goblet]

/ oh woww several ppl are typing that's like super rare in lore chat
@gilded fossil I feel responsible for this HAHA

[hushed steeple]

I see lore moffs... But where's lore moff doc

[gilded fossil]

Well one thing we all can agree on is. They are darkness. It’s how they came to be darkness that’s the question.
/oooh i thought krill mechanical but go on pleae

/that;s posted amio!

[hushed steeple]

Oh ok

[sour cradle]

Imagine KRILLS BUT ELDERS MODE

[modest gull]

so yeah

[hushed thorn]

I have a theory

[sour cradle]

[modest gull]

OH GOD NOES

[sour goblet]

Do share

[modest gull]

tell us

[hushed thorn]

what if the prince was an inncocent child and he saw the spirits being men to the ligth creatures, and he somehow sacraficed himslef and the king was sad and got corrupted

[modest gull]

👀

[heavy eagle]

Yknow i get that it's game mechanics that we still have currencies and emotes and know the functions of the game after we are reborn, but i learnt today that according to Socrates' theory, Psyche (the soul) used to live in the world of Ideas and then came to inhabit human bodies. When it became part of the human body, it lost it's memory and had to learn everything from the start. The knowledge still exists within the soul, but it has no recollection of it, so someone has to help rediscover it.

It reminds me of how we still have emotes, but we have to collect winged light all over again. We have no wings when we are reborn, we start at nearly nothing. We know where everything is, we have the knowledge and in this case light within us, but we need sth to bring it back. It also reminds me of how ppl theorize that children of light are the memories of the Prince. Maybe the Prince parallels the Psyche, and orbit is the world of Ideas. Maybe we really were designed to resemble him after the Prince when he died, and now his spirit and knowledge live within us

[tender dune]

Guys, i can see the future and wanna know who the next TS is?
@slim pumice #general-sky-discussion or #questions-and-help

[sour cradle]

Wait

but like

What if the krills were secretly the elders testing us

[tender dune]

Thats a nice theory Indigo

[sour cradle]

How far can we go

[sour goblet]

What if the krills were secretly the elders testing us
@sour cradle To add onto this, what if the elders are capable of shaping darkness, hence their placement on the light/darkness scale.

[gilded fossil]

/indigo did the ancestors be mean to the dark creatureas as well?

[heavy eagle]

Megan created us, not the king

[sour cradle]

@sour cradle To add onto this, what if the elders are capable of shaping darkness, hence their placement on the light/darkness scale.
@sour goblet ELDER KRILL

[gilded fossil]

/hey uh celestial do please dont quote long messages

[modest gull]

oof

[tender dune]

@modest gull dont quote long text it clogs the chat xD

[sour goblet]

ELDER KRILL ELDER KRILL

[modest gull]

sorry

[tender dune]

Dm

[sour cradle]

ELDER KRILL ELDER KRILL
@sour goblet YES SIR

[modest gull]

YESSS

[worn citrus]

If the Universe is so big, then why won't it fight me?

[hushed thorn]

/indigo did the ancestors be mean to the dark creatureas as well?
@gilded fossil i dont think so maybe the dark creatures were in hiding in their own place and when darkenss came they came and occupied the sky kingdom

[sour goblet]

Pet krill.

[modest gull]

👀 👀 👀

[hexed carbon]

What if the krills and darkness were old elders who are completely out of light, and no child helped them to give them any light and changed to a krill or a crab?
Later on, they were hidden in the dark forgetful.

[modest gull]

p e t k r i l l

[hushed thorn]

I also have another theory thats not related

[sour goblet]

THATSKY I LOVE THAT

[sour cradle]

What if the krills and darkness were old elders who are completely out of light, and no child helped them to give them any light and changed to a krill or a crab?
Later on, they were hidden in the dark forgetful.
@hexed carbon OOOOO

[modest gull]

oooohh

[sour cradle]

Juicy lore

[modest gull]

but that would mean they're where hundreds of elders before us

[sour cradle]

True

[hexed carbon]

mhm

[sour goblet]

So this implies that darkness brings one to crave light, making them power hungry (?)

[hexed carbon]

So this implies that darkness brings one to crave light, making them power hungry (?)
@sour goblet I guess so

[modest gull]

cause there's so many CRABS (srly it wants me to rip my hair out) and K r i l l

[heavy eagle]

Would the corrupted king still have light within him?

[sour cradle]

I would be surprised if there would be more elders = more lore = more seasons = MORE FOOD FOR THE LORE TABLE

[hexed carbon]

crabs will eat your hair after you rip it off

[modest gull]

[sour goblet]

Crabs are the goats of the sky world

Eat everything

[sour cradle]

Eat everything
@sour goblet Y e e t s

[hexed carbon]

they eat your dirty legs with no shoes

they clean our legs

[modest gull]

wait

[hushed thorn]

If shadows are lore, then what if the cape is made out of winged light (i think this has been said) and cosmetics are just our imagination and you have to buy the copyright from the spirits to use it as part of you. You see other skykids by sharing a candle, and the flame is the connection and you use a mental link to share what your idea is of yourself. when you share with someone you will eventually forget what they look like but if you become thier friend you will nevef forget 🙂

[sour cradle]

SO WAIT, WE HAVE NO SHOES UNLESS IF ITS FROM A SEASON

[modest gull]

[sour cradle]

SO WHAT THE GAME IS TRYING TO TELL ME

[tender dune]

There was a similar theory to that (without the copyright)

[sour cradle]

PAY FOR SHOES??

[neat fractal]

Pay for shoes

[sour goblet]

Ah yes, much like real life

[modest gull]

pay for shoes

gtg

[hexed carbon]

Agreed, @sour goblet

[modest gull]

cause its 11:57 pm over here

[sour goblet]

Bye celestial!

[sour cradle]

SO I WALK BARE FEET

[hexed carbon]

Have fun @modest gull !!

[modest gull]

and me needs sleep

[sour cradle]

SEE YA !!

[modest gull]

baiiii!!!

[sour goblet]

Sneep!

[modest gull]

S N E E P

[sour cradle]

ALL LEVELS

[neat fractal]

cause its 11:57 pm over here
@modest gull Scuse me, Its 11:04pm where I am 👁👁

[hexed carbon]

Anyways, back to the lore?

[sour cradle]

**AND GO THROUGH THE DESERT SAND AND THE GRASS AND LAND
**