#lore-discussion-spoilers

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lethal stump
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you’ll find out when prophecy rolls around, Faux pPopcorn

hushed steeple
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It's like 0.01% lore and like 99999999% gameplay

worn citrus
thin dirge
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Anything else aside from that could definitely be explained by story someday

hushed steeple
livid valley
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next season will increase it to 0.02 percent dont worry

lethal stump
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well, the devs have been working on implementing more lore

worn citrus
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This is giving me Undertale flashbacks

compact olive
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Maybe that’s the process of what happens when a power diamond absorbs light. It captures the light source. The soul of the thing of light. Much in the way that darkness plants capture butterflies and mantas

hushed steeple
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I don't think the season gave any lore at all

thin dirge
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Honestly, I think they're just someone who made mistakes. Not necessarily evil or bad

solar relic
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no beta here please

worn citrus
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I guess so
Maybe no one ever had a motive for something malicious

thin dirge
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Yeah

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Exactly

compact olive
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So the “prince” is left inside of the giant diamond ♦️ at Eden....

worn citrus
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But either their curiosity or something else caused their downfall and all those chain of events

thin dirge
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Plus, Prince concept art is literally an skid with a star mask

hushed steeple
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Self porttait of res

compact olive
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And that freed the king of his innocences and light

lethal stump
thin dirge
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Considering how innocent our skid is, and how Prince also literally looks like an skid with a star mask, I'm pretty sure they were someone who didn't have any malicious intent

hushed steeple
thin dirge
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Probably did a lot of mistakes and were imperfect-

hushed steeple
worn citrus
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Or us skids are just reincarnated from the prince to fix what their kingdom had become?

hushed steeple
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Or Megan

lethal stump
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Please stop spamming

worn citrus
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Is that a red bean tho

livid valley
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whats with the beans

thin dirge
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You know, when I was thinking of the Prince being the Child of Yhe Light... I suddenly realised that itself may be a Christian reference.

compact olive
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A holy trinity of sorts

thin dirge
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You know, Megan is stated to be the God of Sky World, while Prince is their child...

compact olive
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Megan king and prince/child of light ?

worn citrus
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Could be
I mean, we have eden and such

thin dirge
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You see where I'm getting here?

worn citrus
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Yeah

solar relic
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that's what i had in mind for my prince = king = col = us theory

worn citrus
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It is based on religion concepts

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Possibly

thin dirge
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That's also the reason why I had that idea the Prince took on the punishments of the Elders instead so that they could be saved

lethal stump
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babey pCry

worn citrus
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So the prince would be unable to be saved since he took the damage then?

thin dirge
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Well, yeah, in that way

compact olive
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There are 6 elders besides the king... (6 is numerically similar(half of) to 12 apostles).

worn citrus
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Like the elders were spared

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Hmm I see

thin dirge
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Oz, that reminds me of something in the concepts!

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The old Valley of Triumph had statues that represents the Ancestors/Elders

worn citrus
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If so, then the same thing might've happened to the Eden Elder and why they aren't able to be saved anymore

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Also I like to think the devs are quietly watching this for ideas to implement on the official lore if ever

compact olive
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Originally it was the “shaman” (I think Lamed or vault elder) who showed Prince the power of darkness

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Maybe she’s the Judas

thin dirge
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However, they had 6 extra statues that were cut down. It was there to make it look like there had been extra 6 Elders/Ancestors aside from the other 6

lethal stump
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Teth was the Shaman iirc

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can you show that concept, Butterfly ?

thin dirge
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Lemme go get it in Tom Zhao's website

lethal stump
compact olive
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I said that last time Bricky and someone corrected me saying it was Lamed

lethal stump
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nah, teth was more shaman-y in the concepts

compact olive
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I thought it was Teth because she was the forest elder and they found it in the forest

hushed steeple
worn citrus
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Maybe the other 6 elders that had their statues to be cut down were too late to be saved before the Prince supposedly sacrificing himself to spare the remaining 6?

thin dirge
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This may be blurry

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But it may also be really outdated

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Oh wait, more than 8-

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Oof

compact olive
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Right in the center 12 statues

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6 in tact and 6 broken

thin dirge
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Wait, lemme check the original image-

hushed steeple
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12 elders.....

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WH-

compact olive
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#5

livid valley
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12 elders pog

thin dirge
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More than 6

worn citrus
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If ever elder is represented as for each realm, then maybe there are other realms undiscovered or lost forever?

compact olive
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But this was back when the dark stones MADE the elders into god like beings

thin dirge
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So yeah, probably 12

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True

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Remember, this was an old concept tho

worn citrus
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Is there an updated version or retcon of it?

compact olive
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Nope

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Just this

worn citrus
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Well I guess this'll do for now

thin dirge
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Yall should check out Tom Zhao's stuff at his website

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There should be a link to this in Pins!

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Or is it already there?

compact olive
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Tom Zhao’s original al idea was that the ancestors were normal people and the prince gave them dark stones each and they became god like and ruined everything because the dark stone corrupts

thin dirge
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Yeah, its also the opposite of the Flame

compact olive
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The opposite of the flame?

hushed steeple
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Not my pic btw

worn citrus
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That's a manta? I thought it was somewhere being a whale

thin dirge
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One conceot shows that they evolve everytime a Manta's reborn

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No, Elder Manta

livid valley
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ngl wish the elder manta is solid

hushed steeple
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Oh ok

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Lol

worn citrus
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Oh ohke then

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?

thin dirge
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Oh wow, that's filtered

hushed steeple
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I like this manta more since the whale at eden literally made me lose a light once i touched it

compact olive
hushed steeple
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I like this manta more since the whale at eden literally made me lose a light once i touched it
@hushed steeple .

livid valley
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I like this manta more since the whale at eden literally made me lose a light once i touched it
thats exactly what i want it to do to me

thin dirge
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Those Mantas probably use light like us, so that's probably why we get drained

worn citrus
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From the concept, we could stem the possibility of Krills once being light creatures and not being originated from purely darkness

compact olive
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Butter what did you mean by “opposite of the flame” ?

thin dirge
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It was stated in a concept-
Oh yeah, old timeline

hushed steeple
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Those Mantas probably use light like us, so that's probably why we get drained
@thin dirge No cuz it's not actually supposed to be touched

thin dirge
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Maybe

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But losing light is weird

worn citrus
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Is it game meta or just like that?

hushed steeple
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Sometimes it justs put out your flame

thin dirge
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Dark stone is stated to be the opposite of the Flame in the old concept timeline

hushed steeple
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But ME i lost a light

compact olive
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The in game method of getting light is exactly the same as Thom Zhao’s concepts buttter

worn citrus
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Maybe cuz the elder manta is more solid that normal ones and we lose light if we bump to a solid wall a bit too hard

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More or less the same kind of aspect

livid valley
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protection

worn citrus
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Or just game meta

compact olive
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And darkness is the same as well.

worn citrus
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Maybe Light creatures don't exactly have complete physical bodies but rather metaphysical ones, and they become more solid as they age, hence the elder manta being like that

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And their light would become less vulnerable

compact olive
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Someone was asking a while back why I thought Teth was “evil” and I think I have a better answer than “she snatched the flame from the skid and didn’t give two snippets about them.”

worn citrus
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Maybe she was just brash and impatient?

thin dirge
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^^

compact olive
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Originally ancestors harvested light that was given by the creatures of light.... it was Teth who devised a way to suck it from them

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There’s nothing that says pure unadulterated evil than a person who’s willing to take something from someone else without their consent

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That’s Teth

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Hidden Forest Elder

worn citrus
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Definitely megalomania if that's the case, after realizing what she can do and what she can achieve without any thoughts of the possible consequences that might occur

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Too much light drained from creatures of light could either kill them, or corrupt them turning into their dark variants

compact olive
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She saw creatures of light as expendable

worn citrus
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Which is a fatal flaw I believe

compact olive
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Fodder

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It’s evil

worn citrus
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Like it would explain why they have so much power diamonds and anything similar to it scattered in the realms, being another source of light other than the light creatures

lethal stump
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faux i wanna mention one thing, are you aware your name means « false » in french

worn citrus
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Yes im aware

compact olive
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The power diamonds were used to destroy creatures

worn citrus
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Also its a word play on being sounding/looking similar to "fox"

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And also how I like foxes

compact olive
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What does the Faux say

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But Teth is evil by her actions

worn citrus
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wheezing exclaims
Yes foxes do make sounds like that

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I guess Teth is someone who sought power initially through nobke reasons, and ended up being corrupted in the long run

compact olive
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Noble?

worn citrus
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Power does not attract the corrupted, but rather attracts those who are easily corruptible

compact olive
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I’d like to hear your ideas about her actions starting out as noble

worn citrus
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Noble like seeking a revolutionary way to improve their kingdom or something like that

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Or seeking approval from the royalty

compact olive
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But at the clear cost of the freedom and livelihood of the creatures that have them gifts ?

worn citrus
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Maybe even Teth wasn't aware of that, like she is the genius of her civilization, and did not tell much about her discoveries to the other people, notably the elders and the royalty

compact olive
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She wasn’t experimenting with non-living things. She literally built cages and refineries to capture and crush the life out of the creatures

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This was no accidental casualty

worn citrus
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We had something similar to this
We weren't aware that industrialization affected the climate and environments

compact olive
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She willing created these things

worn citrus
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Then perhaps she was initially evil I guess

sinful anvil
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then how come the forest is handed to her who mishandled it?

compact olive
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I’m not sure I understand the question Pale

worn citrus
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Then her premise is more or less the same we see with geniuses starting something revolutionary

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Only to end up to something far worse

sinful anvil
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i mean its surprising that the forest, rich in ecosystem, was put into the hands of someone who later abuses it

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its not that surprising but

worn citrus
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Well the forest seemed to recover, but we didn't know how long it possibly took
Also some trees were lifeless and weak, as well as dark plants growing abound

sinful anvil
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on par with twinsoftriumph’s story that she is forcibly corrupted, forest’s curvy frame, i kinda hc her as the mother nature and assumed that she took care of the forest for a while.

compact olive
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She built cages

sinful anvil
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in the cutscene the way she looked at the stones is vulnerable but ofc it slips away later

compact olive
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And a machine that sucked life out of creatures

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She is (in cut scene) lamenting the breaking of her invention. The life sucking stone

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Dark stone.

sinful anvil
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maybe she was handed with the forest not to look after its nature. maybe she was ordered to look after the people instead and teach them to forge and make use of resources

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the nature is just, like, cash grabbing

worn citrus
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Exploitation is only inevitable during the process of technological revolution, but she still took it too far

compact olive
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You think an ancestor built the cages and animal refineries without her knowledge ?

thin dirge
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Thats also possible-

sinful anvil
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i kinda changed my mind tbh

worn citrus
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Maybe, but idk much from that

compact olive
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It’s her shrine

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Her shrine is literally built into the refinery

sinful anvil
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teth is not a forestress. she is a forger

worn citrus
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Also how her shrine seemed to be the the most techy than the rest

sinful anvil
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it must be why

worn citrus
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Other shrines didn't have a mechanism and such, only asked you to light up the candles

sinful anvil
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wherher elders are assigned with realms or they chose is an entire other story, but yknow teth being naturally selfish is plausible. its possible her job isnt to look after the forest at all

compact olive
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To show her technical prowess

sinful anvil
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her objective is to forge and profit not to keep it flourishing

worn citrus
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Its likely that she didn't embrace things like spirituality or anything similar to that, which is why she sees light creatures and the light as only resources and fodder

compact olive
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Whether Teth oversaw or personally created the manta cages is Symantecs. The Furer didn’t build the concentration camps

sinful anvil
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they arent camps

compact olive
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No but metaphorical animal camps.

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Cages that lead to a grinder of sorts

sinful anvil
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they arent ground for labor they’re like food

compact olive
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The mantas ?

sinful anvil
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yeah

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who knows mb theyre taken over a period of time until theyre worn out

compact olive
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I would argue they are more than a food source. They have literal souls that go to the same place that skid and ancestor souls go, they willingly drop light for the ancestors. They help skids fly to high locations without command

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In tomcepts they even have sentience

sinful anvil
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that cluster of sanct mantas that swarm u when u fly to them like 🥺

short owl
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Wait where in the tomcepts was this?

compact olive
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The time Line

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The creatures barter with the prince

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I think it’s picture 6 or 7

sinful anvil
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so after all this time ... when teth met us she’s still a jerk? stickerShock

compact olive
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She’s evil

vestal sapphire
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I really need a list of names because I was lost reading the chat

lethal stump
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names ?

compact olive
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Teth = hidden Forest elder

worn citrus
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Teth's efforts are now h e r e s y

lethal stump
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Isle: Daleth (ד)
Prairie: Ayin (ע)
Forest: Teth (ט)
Valley: Samekh (ס)
Wasteland: Tsadi (צ)
Vault: Lamed (ל)
Prince: Alef (א)
King: Resh (ר)
PLEASE NOTE: These names have appeared in concept art and are often used when referring to the elders. They are no longer canon, they are fanon.

sinful anvil
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daleth is isle
ayin is prairie
teth is forest
samekh is valley they share a name
tsadi wasteland
lamed vault

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someone else said it but ima send mine anyway

hushed steeple
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Bricky is always fastpFIRE

worn citrus
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burn the heretics with our candles

sinful anvil
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part of my memorization of elder names is thanks to synesthesia

vestal sapphire
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Wait aminute there's just one name for Samekh?

hushed steeple
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Ya

sinful anvil
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yes

compact olive
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Yeah Sam and Ekh

worn citrus
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Sam ekh

sinful anvil
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dont trust anyone saying they are daleth and alef thats a lie

vestal sapphire
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Ah I see

hushed steeple
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They shared name
Could be sam and ekh or sa and mekh

sinful anvil
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and same goes to those saying tsadi is caleb
heretics

worn citrus
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H e r e s y

compact olive
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Burn the heretics

worn citrus
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slay the infidels

compact olive
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Who’s down with my crackpot theory, Teth is evil!!

worn citrus
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Also aren't skids technically angels sent by the mighty big bird god?

green tartan
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teth no evil teth a strict mom-

vestal sapphire
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Teth is forest mom. I mean, Teth is basically a mom

sinful anvil
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teth is hecking rude and the twins just exclude u later on
its always the pretty ppl being the jerks smh

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vault is mom!!

compact olive
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Strict moms don’t grind up the house cat and dog for dinner

worn citrus
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Well if food is scarce, normal ones still won't

sinful anvil
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screw teth. i still hate her

hushed steeple
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Teth is good.... All elders are good but. But she was little depressed when we first met with her👀

vestal sapphire
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I haven't seen any lore behind Ayin. Maybe it's buried in chat but I feel like I wanna know them better

sinful anvil
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depressed for her failure

hushed steeple
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Maybe not her

worn citrus
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Which led to
H e r e s y

hushed steeple
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Maybe she was forced to work on powered diamonds?

compact olive
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She’s only excited to make that manta slaying diamond again

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Forced?

worn citrus
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If she's forced, who forced her or what was the motive?

compact olive
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She seems way to powerful to be forced to do anything other than what she wants.

hushed steeple
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I mean she didn't wanted but u know she can't deny the order of king

worn citrus
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Or was it an ulterior motive?

vestal sapphire
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She's in charge of forge and crafts. So she could be commisioned to

worn citrus
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I guess so

sinful anvil
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how much autonomy do elders have honestly?

thin dirge
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^^^

vestal sapphire
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I forgot what that means

compact olive
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Yes but if I commissioned or ordered you to create a people grinder would you do it ?

worn citrus
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But the big bird god hates H e r e s y

edgy sequoia
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what's heresy

sinful anvil
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i mean all elders bowed in the vault cutscene so rhat says smth abour kings power

worn citrus
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how much autonomy do elders have honestly?
If they answer all to the king, then maybe not much

vestal sapphire
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The people grinder could be for the heretics

worn citrus
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Like they are a cut below the royalty i think

sinful anvil
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heresy: belief contrary to orthodox doctrine

compact olive
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It says the stars fell. It doesn’t say they were pushed down

vestal sapphire
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Like a rebel to a religion

compact olive
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Lol

sinful anvil
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lucifer.

worn citrus
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H e r e s y

sinful anvil
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(wow cant believe i said it)

thin dirge
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Well, in JP intro, it says they were drawn from the Sky

sinful anvil
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wait oz by that it means the narrator is the king

thin dirge
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But CN intro says they chose to go down... sooo...

sinful anvil
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same

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cn b lying to me smh

worn citrus
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And they did something that wasn't allowed, presumably leading to their downfall

green tartan
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i was thinking that the narator might hav been one of the elders

thin dirge
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Also, CN intro says "My Child", so the narrator must be The Light

green tartan
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idk

sinful anvil
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i mean cn only says the kingdom flourished and perished

worn citrus
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Which is what many believe, was Teth's fault and the technological revolution

vestal sapphire
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My Child could mean like a child of the God. Mega Bird was my first guess

thin dirge
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We're Children of The Light, so if the narrator says "My Child", it must be The Light

worn citrus
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That slandered and opposed the natural order of light creatures and such I think

thin dirge
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I kinda brought that up earlier, but with the Prince

compact olive
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Caged !!

worn citrus
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So yes, it all boils down into
** H e r e s y**

thin dirge
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The other Child of The Light is the Prince and pretty much took on the punishments of the Elders so they could be saved

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It hurts when I think about it

worn citrus
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If there are 12 elders originally, then he failed to save the other 6, which might have made him sacrifice himself for the remaining 6

vestal sapphire
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Things got very biblical

thin dirge
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I mean, there's Eden-

worn citrus
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Yah i guess so

vestal sapphire
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Oh yea

worn citrus
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I mean theres a big bird god up in the sky

compact olive
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Teth: “you wanted to see me, your highness?”
King: “Yessss... I need you to build me a cage.”
Teth: “a cage for what, m’lord?”
King: “.......for....uh...trees... yes trees.”

worn citrus
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The trees are moving??

  • Prolly Teth
vestal sapphire
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The king that pauses mid sentence, I need that typ of dialougue

worn citrus
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It would be more interesting to see than a stoic demeanor

thin dirge
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Child of The Light/King could also be the Incarnation of The Light and is now... part of The Light

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Meh, my brain is a mess when it comes to the Prince/King

vestal sapphire
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that kind of speech is overrated to me. It's nice to see a slow talking king

worn citrus
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I mean there's not much official lore to ground our speculations to them so I get ya

compact olive
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I can’t see a king yelling at her when she can lift that hammer the size of her torso and also has telekinesis

sinful anvil
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king gave her telekinesis

vestal sapphire
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the king's like, "mmmmmyes"

compact olive
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(💕Beast wars mega tron ref)

worn citrus
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I think the elders all have special powers of their own
Like how the WL elder is swole and at peak physical strength, able to jump and land to and from high places while wearing heels

vestal sapphire
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the heels have power

sinful anvil
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yall ever think the mech suit impedes his speech

compact olive
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Or was that a South Park ref?

worn citrus
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He has a mech suit?

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Maybe

lethal stump
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there’s a theory that the king is a mech suit for a tiny skid-sized prince

thin dirge
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I always headcanon each one having some sort of ability

worn citrus
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Like the power of heels

vestal sapphire
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Tsadi: These boots are too big, not to mention the sabatons. The heels however

worn citrus
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Originally, heels were for dude butcherers to avoid stepping on blood
Maybe Tsadi was a butcherer?
(Silly hc)

lethal stump
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we was a warrior, so... pPopcorn

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i bet he still had to avoid blood

worn citrus
thin dirge
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Isle being able to lead light creatures and spirits to The Light
Prarie can create life from light
Forest has telekinesis
Twins can... if we go with the old beta cutscene, they probably have a mix of abilities
Tsadi is strong
Lamed is... projections? Or knowledge itself

Prince is... candles.
And imitation, can imitate the abilities of the other Elders to some extent (in an inaccurate way-)
Probably also able to do... light beam thing we see at Eden to some extent.

sinful anvil
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ye sadly skykids imitate but kinda badly

worn citrus
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Tsadi is likely to be the commando/head of their military
Maybe Twins represent the art of dueling and games in the coliseum?

vestal sapphire
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Their competetive nature says so

thin dirge
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My headcanon tho is that they weren't always so competative

sinful anvil
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(was the prince stronger than us? can he mimic voices perfectly while we are just weakened? gimme a tyrant prince who pretends to be someone’s aquintance to spy on them)

thin dirge
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Prince was probably able to grow up tho

worn citrus
thin dirge
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That's why they can do stuff that we can't

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For now

lethal stump
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i mean, we don’t grow up, if we’re made in their image...maybe the prince couldn’t either

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they are the child of light after all

thin dirge
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I meant mentally-

lethal stump
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wouldn’t make sense if they became an adult

sinful anvil
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that confirms it, the prince couldve never been an adult

thin dirge
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Mentally matured

sinful anvil
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(there goes some of the fic ideas)

thin dirge
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Not physically grow-

sinful anvil
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no

worn citrus
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Maybe their technological prowess achieved physical immortality?

sinful anvil
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valley twins never mentally matured. the prince didnt either

worn citrus
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Maybe just eternal youth

thin dirge
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My headcanon tho is that they weren't always immature like that tho

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Well, most of the time in the past

sinful anvil
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i refuse to believe the prince is of age

lethal stump
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i hc that all the elders were made with set ages in mind, and they can’t mentally mature past that point
fits with the whole « elders are how people of that age [referencing realm = age thing] see adults »

thin dirge
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Wait a sec...

vestal sapphire
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hol up

lethal stump
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and when you die
when you reach eden
you’re back to that little kid you were at the beginning of this journey

thin dirge
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Then what does the Prince represent if they're kinda the Elder of Eden-

lethal stump
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which is why i think the eden elder is a permanent child

sinful anvil
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hc that what partially made the prince competent as the king is his nature to copy. he can observe things and mirror them, which is how he can learn in a sense

thin dirge
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Okay

worn citrus
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I think they aren't carbon based lifeforms like us
Like how the prairie elder had his face broken as if it was a stone piece being able to be restored

thin dirge
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So...

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Whose bold plan was it to make some child the ruler of a Kingdom who can't mentally mature-

lethal stump
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the elders aren’t big brain pPopcorn

vestal sapphire
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Their brain stayed the same tho

sinful anvil
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umm lmao

worn citrus
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And as far as we know, only carbon based lifeforms would age, given how non organic life doesn't rot at all

lethal stump
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in one of the concepts it was mentioned elders feel like they’re made of charcoal

worn citrus
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So i guess its kinda true then

sinful anvil
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so a few days ago i was told 14 yr old kids can think for themselves to a certain degree and therefore rule a kingdom if they are raised right

lethal stump
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they’re probably carbon based

sinful anvil
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and now someone else raises the same question

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lmao

thin dirge
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Just because they're the Child of some deity of the Universe means they're immediately ruler material-

worn citrus
#

But not really organic like us humans

sinful anvil
#

they can be raised to be a ruler

thin dirge
#

Did the Child even have training?!

sinful anvil
#

yes

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he likely did

worn citrus
#

Not really?

thin dirge
#

We dont know that???

worn citrus
#

Maybe ints instinct?

sinful anvil
#

ive raised the same problem earlier lmao

vestal sapphire
#

If the children of light were made of charcoal/coal it would make sense why they can burn out

sinful anvil
#

and got rebuffee

lethal stump
#

i was just explaining my headcanon, pale

worn citrus
#

Maybe they lived a thousand lifetimes serving the same purpose over and over again?

lethal stump
#

don’t spread it like it’s fact

thin dirge
#

Okay, this explains a lot.
This explains why Sky Kingdom was so messed up-

worn citrus
#

Okay, this explains a lot.
This explains why Sky Kingdom was so messed up-
Always has been
Lights candle

thin dirge
#

Moral lesson: Never make a child a ruler of an entire civilisation-

worn citrus
#

Isn't that like a common sense? An inexperienced ruler is an unfit one

vestal sapphire
#

What if the child was designed to be a ruler. Since nobody matures mentally/physically, then the child must already know the basics of being a ruler (coded into their mind). It's like making a machine that does the same thing, if it's already good then theres no need for modifications

thin dirge
#

Gosh, now my brain is making a lot of angst thoughts-

worn citrus
#

Big brain

thin dirge
#

Like the possibility of a child breaking down due to stress of RULING

vestal sapphire
#

The child must already be suitable for ruling or else it's just a child

lethal stump
#

maybe the stress is why they corrupted pPopcorn

thin dirge
#

Now all those angst thoughts I had about the Prince are starting to make sense in my head

worn citrus
#

Its inevitable truly
They aren't fit to rule in the first place
They are supposed to take their time as current prince and as an heir to prepare for such a responsibility

thin dirge
#

Prince needs therapy

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Myabe they weren't meant to rule

compact olive
#

A child who has existed for eons perhaps? Child of light (if they are the prince) must have had some heavy schooling on how to rule. Also maybe that’s why the elders were appointed to help the prince rule with good council...like how to grind up creature of light in a refinery

vestal sapphire
#

There's no way the child is allowed to contain stress. Whoever made the child must already know this risk. (this is my headcanon)

thin dirge
#

They were meant to guide and walk alongside the people

worn citrus
#

maybe the stress is why they corrupted pPopcorn
So they needed therapists instead of skids i guess

lethal stump
#

The prince, now king, might have become stressed and angry. Especially at the Elders who were basically « tiger moms » and constantly pushed him to exceed expectations to be a good ruler
I can only imagine the kind of mental anguish that could cause

thin dirge
#

The idea of it seems interesting...

vestal sapphire
#

I still see that the child was coded to be king from birth

worn citrus
#

Maybe those dark creatures were once sky ppl corrupted by the influence of the darkness

elder geode
#

That's kinda sad stickerGloomy

sinful anvil
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been thinkin about at his dying breath he wishes that megabird would “make me a child again”

thin dirge
#

The Prince was never meant to be a ruler.
They were meant to be with the people and walk alongside them to be their guide. Not being the person who's on top that people praise for-

lethal stump
#

that makes sense, J, but let me pose to you
We Crave Angst

livid valley
sinful anvil
#

in this case megan is kinda merciful

vestal sapphire
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been thinkin about at his dying breath he wishes that megabird would “make me a child again”
@sinful anvil The child never had a regular experience of being a child, since they were made to be a king instantly

worn citrus
#

But someone committed
H E R E S Y

sinful anvil
#

i can imagine the prince just lies down in eden amongst all the mess and like, curl up or something, wishing theyre a child

vestal sapphire
#

As in coded to be a king

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It's kinda messed up that your whole life was made for one purpose

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Not permitted to be anything else

sinful anvil
#

or you all can be ... pitying for a liar

thin dirge
#

The Prince was never meant to be a ruler.
They were meant to walk alongside the people.
Not being the person who's on top that people praise for-

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That's kinda an idea that seems interesting to me

vestal sapphire
#

But if the child acts like his people, who'll be suited as king?

thin dirge
#

Walk alongside them and guide them to The Light

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Similar to Isle, but

compact olive
#

That’s what a good king does Butter

lethal stump
#

it’s arguable if the king was good at what they did

thin dirge
#

True, but the way the Prince became King, its almost like he got herald as the top leader instead of being alongside them

worn citrus
#

maybe the premise was him not being a good one

thin dirge
#

Idk, just a thought...

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I mean, its a child. And us sky kids are really social

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I mean, really social

vestal sapphire
#

My friend came up with this. What if all the skids were failed attempts of the child king? But the skids are allowed to be free and all that. The reason why there were so many skids now is because they were awoken/called back by mega bird to ascend. That's why we have so many sky kids, they were prototypes of the child king.

thin dirge
#

Ooh, interesting..

compact olive
#

Maybe that’s the fall to darkness. The elders used the child of light / prince king as the fall guy for their wicked intentions

vestal sapphire
#

I think that kinda sounds weird but interesting

worn citrus
#

and maybe why they sacrifice themselves to save those statues, since they were a failed attempt and thus expendable, but megabird was kind enough to let them live again,

queen locust
#

oh my god we really are reject Vessles-

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Also hi there-

sinful anvil
#

maybe the king did the same thing as the pale king except he split his soul little by little

vestal sapphire
#

It makes sense tho, nobody ages. If the ancestors want kids then they can just have the sky kids. Sky kids stay as kids because of what my friend said, they were supposed to be children, but flawed/ dont meet expectations.

lethal stump
#

Maybe that’s the fall to darkness. The elders used the child of light / prince king as the fall guy for their wicked intentions
oh boy child abuse

junior robin
thin dirge
#

Perhaps the Prince was meant to be a leader, but the kind of leader they became was not the kind of leader they're meant to become

lethal stump
#

yep

sinful anvil
#

so anakin?

vestal sapphire
#

I think my friend kinda referenced hollow knight lore. But with a happy ending for the sky kids

lethal stump
#

those are king statues, @junior robin

sinful anvil
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“You were the chosen one! You’re supposed to be the balance, not destroy them!”

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hey obi wan’s quote applies to him too

junior robin
thin dirge
#

They're meant to be a leader whose equal with the people rather than someone who's on the top and is praised like some idol

vestal sapphire
#

That's hard to code, so theres gonna be a lot of failed attempts

queen locust
#

What if it was just that though- like he could just be a puppet leader or smthn

thin dirge
#

I think thats the true purpose of the King, maybe

worn citrus
#

"You could not live with your own failure, and where did that bring you? Back to me."

thin dirge
#

Since skids are also very social

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Social with ancestors. Prince could've been the same

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Since Prince looks exactly like an skid but with a star mask

queen locust
#

I'm just picturing this guy running around the kingdom staring at the Ancestors until they emoted

worn citrus
#

skids are crusaders against the darkness
burning everything in their path
....to earn candles

queen locust
#

Arsonists-

sinful anvil
#

the prince is a copier... thats how he became king

vestal sapphire
#

BuRn In HOlY FirE

sinful anvil
#

he can mimick other’s nature and assimilate

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then ascend

worn citrus
#

Well the world before the skids was covered in darkness and vile so why not?

vestal sapphire
#

Just like the sky kids!

#

It all makes sense now

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We're failed clones of the prince,the ones that don't meet expectations. But we are free to live free and not becoming castaways. That's pretty nice for the sky kids

worn citrus
#

But everything changed when the sky kids attacked.

queen locust
#

Thank God they didn't have an abyss to yeet us into amirite-

vestal sapphire
#

Hollow knight but the children live

worn citrus
#

I mean after you die, you go into an abyss like place

sinful anvil
#

the Birthplace

queen locust
#

We weren't immediately chucked into it though

worn citrus
#

then you hug a shiny boi, then fly your way out of there

sinful anvil
#

the eden diamond can be our birthplace

worn citrus
#

I guess so

queen locust
#

Just hardwired to yeet into it because we're suicidal moths-

worn citrus
#

Weekly suicide

sinful anvil
#

heres a fascinating thing: vessels are hardwired to climb upward, while skykids also climb upward in a way but kinda descend

vestal sapphire
#

Welcome to Sky Kid corp. Where you die in a weekly basis but ressurected again. The weekly salary are a couple of ascended candles and as an extra bonus, wing buffs!

sharp thunder
#

Hi Mei

queen locust
#

Happy corpse burning moth children

worn citrus
#

then we save the world and it's deceased occupants by burning the world from darkness

queen locust
#

Nothing is too sacred just burn everything

worn citrus
#

because the mighty and holy big bird god demands it

queen locust
#

Answer the call of Megan-

vestal sapphire
#

Our equipment cosists of HolY FIrE to burn the heretics

worn citrus
#

destroy the infidels that slander the name of the mighty big bird god

vestal sapphire
#

BuRn IN HolY FiRE

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For the bird god!

lethal stump
#

burning for the bird god

solar relic
worn citrus
#

we shall take back our holy mainland among the 7 realms!

sinful anvil
#

“Hey Elders, it’s me. ya boi”

hushed steeple
#

did y'all bring back the whole megan youtuber thing again

thorn trout
#

Guys isn't this supposed to be... lore. XD

worn citrus
#

well yes lmao
we kinda strayed a little

#

but yes big bird god is holy

hushed steeple
#

we noticed SkyLOL

thorn trout
#

I can see that tbh
Screaming about holy bird god and Sky Kid corporations

sly kestrel
worn citrus
#

Sky kids being angels is somewhere in the realm of symbolism since we are sent by the light to bring back our lost stars home

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or the holy bird god sent us

sly kestrel
#

What is ur interpretation of that exactly
Bringing home the lost stars
What does that mean to you

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Nope

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It’s inside the huge mountain

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On top of the mountain is eden

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Not necessarily no

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Ye

worn citrus
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The Sky ppl once being a part of the stars/part of megabird but strayed away to start their own life
But fell into darkness and ruin due to their arrogance or ignorance about using the light
and still once part of the stars or her, we are sent to retrieve and save them from their mistakes or limbo

#

something like that

sly kestrel
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Sort of at the end of wasteland is the bottom of the mountain, u get on top of the mountain by ascending vault
After vault u reach the top sort of, and then everything after that is eden

worn citrus
#

depends

sly kestrel
#

Pins

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There’s a height chart

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Also faux....that’s an interesting view

#

Have u ever read the intro faux?

worn citrus
#

there's a chart I believe

sly kestrel
#

U kno, the beginning cutscene one

worn citrus
#

and what we used to measure is just a lamp hehe

#

Have u ever read the intro faux?
yes I did, but I don't remember every single part of it

sly kestrel
#

Okay

solar relic
#

oh you mean irl sky kid heights? there's no canon height but someone has a height chart using tgc's bafta award and office equipment so i can link it

sly kestrel
#

That explains a bit
Well, all theories are welcome stickerHeart

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Nope

worn citrus
#

I gtg

sly kestrel
#

Well there’s base canon but they don’t want that to limit people’s theories

#

So most of the lore is jus for us to make up basically

#

They added bases like I said, but they didn’t want to limit anyone
Their main goal is for the gameplay experience and friend fun time, rather than a really cool story

#

If u want that I highly suggest journey
Amazing game 👌🏼

#

Well I could over load u with my theories BUT
It seems u jus want straight forward answers, I don’t have all the links so I suggest spending a few days looking at all the pins 👉

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And yes I said a few days bc it takes a while

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And not all of it is related to “canon” lore but read it anyway
It helps build theories and understanding

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Now let me adopt you pMoth

tender dune
#

This is the height chart thing but legit i still dunno how to use it @Moff

hushed steeple
#

Sky kids are short

livid valley
#

same like my friends

lethal stump
#

we’re between 2’3 and 3’11 iirc

stone rivet
#

We're pretty big

lethal stump
#

not really

sly kestrel
bitter shale
#

How tall is taht in cm-

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I cant do inch

lethal stump
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68.6 cm to 119.4 cm
not very tall if you ask me, that’s a range of height of 2–7 year olds

bitter shale
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Smol

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I myself is 165 cm and its still considered as short- stickerGloomy

stone rivet
#

Pretty tall 7 year old

#

Idk i hc kids age as wedges on the cape so my max is 9

lethal stump
#

i imagine it as a fusion of rebirths and seasons

tropic island
#

i found like a comic someone made

bitter shale
#

My skid is 9 wedges old

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Orrrr 1 season old

tropic island
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where when a sky kid's corrupted, they would start to break and show either corruption plants or the red crystals

#

i think that's an interesting concept ngl

lethal stump
#

that’s an aspect from the concepts i believe

tropic island
#

but in the comic it showed that the kid was turning into some krill

stone rivet
tender dune
#

I think i know which artist ur talking about SkyLOL

bitter shale
#

I mean... are ya talkin about that sky fan video-

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Or maybe not SkyLOL SkyLOL

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The one by Starmybunny

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Soleil and Dynasty

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They got almost the same corrupted concept

tender dune
bitter shale
#

Lmaoo okie

hushed steeple
#

Hey everyone im new here so i dont really know whats going on could someone just tell me the basics and existing canon?

echo sentinel
#

theres not much for existing canon cause its really vauge but you can see pinned messages for canon

lethal stump
hushed steeple
#

thank you!

tropic island
#

I mean... are ya talkin about that sky fan video-
@bitter shale no not that

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there was this comic where it showed one sky kid who had a corrupted soul

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and he keeps turning into a krill and a part of him starts to break

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like his body parts

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i enjoy that kind of concept tbh

feral radish
#

Imagine MatPat doing a video on Sky pEyes

queen locust
#

yo I'd click on it so fast

kind bobcat
#

imagiene all the new lore moffs

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About time he stops talking about a bankrupt pizza chain.

queen locust
#

The flood of new moffs- period-

lethal stump
#

the flood of moffs

queen locust
#

dude I scrolled up our moffs are gremlins oml

lethal stump
#

that sounds a little rude, don’t you think ?

queen locust
#

I dunno- I call a lot of things I like gremlin

#

Plus who am I to judge I'm like 157

tender dune
tropic island
#

baby mofff gremlins

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lmao

opal briar
#

When it comes to hight can we not use the office for reference?

vale ridge
#

Yeh
I mean
We can make up our own heights

#

Like if Starbucks can do it
So can we

opal briar
#

Lol fair point

lethal stump
#

skids relative to office is their « legit » heights

opal briar
#

\o/

#

Personally I can’t wait for the SCIENCE! of sky kids

sour cradle
#

YESSSS

sly kestrel
#

no

wide night
#

hi lore chat what are we up to today

vestal swift
#

ALEF

wide night
#

What aboutem

vestal swift
#

PROPAGANDA

#

YOU ARE NOT IMMUNE TO THE PROPAGANDA

wide night
#

everytime anyone talk about alef all I can thing about is أ

#

alef is literally first letter in arabic alphabet

#

we are not immune to propaganda.

bitter shale
livid valley
vestal swift
#

It is also the first letter in the Hebrew alphabet.

wide night
#

Yes bc they are from the same root

vestal swift
#

My family, too, is not immune to the propaganda

wide night
#

is there anyone even immune to the propaganda..

lyric isle
mortal sonnet
#

guys hear me out..

#

Quantum mechanics in Sky.

tawny summit
#

A thing got me thinking. Are alive spirits extinct? As the ones we meet ingame are all in their spirit (dead) form

#

Was there might be an apocalypse that made them extinct? And skykids are living to relive the post-apocalyptic realms

royal forge
#

hmmm we might get some clues in the upcoming season

#

i dont know

kind bobcat
#

Yes, the spirits were once called ancestors, they all died.

#

Their extinction might be linked to the destruction of eden and the kingdom.

#

Some notable theories about the kingdom's downfall suggest that the diamond was directly or indirectly responsible for their extinction

inner comet
#

So are elders cursedpEyes

tawny summit
#

I don't know a thing about eden/kingdom destruction, might look up for more

kind bobcat
#

If you count as being "locked outside of time and space and isn't dead nor alive" a curse, yes pEyes

inner comet
#

also i noticed smth

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Yknow how spirits are blue right? (so their technically cursed) once we give them the ac i think it cures them or smth since they turn yellow pThink

kind bobcat
#

the more accurate term is indifferent but yeah, spirits and elders are indifferent.

#

Skykids are half indifferent.

hushed steeple
#

Hi I'm back to terrorise you all with my sky theories

inner comet
#

Oof sorry, not that good with englishpCry

hushed steeple
thin dirge
#

Blue represents loss or death while Yellow represents life

tawny summit
#

Also what are winged lights actually? When we started the game at the first time, it tells us "Wake up, my child. Bring the lost stars home." Was they some kind of spirit (?) that needs to bring back to their statues (bodies?) at eden?

inner comet
#

I think that was lamed who was saying that

thin dirge
#

Blue is also the color of light when its energy is used for something-

kind bobcat
#

in a dev stream they said winged light was "imprints of the child of light"

hushed steeple
kind bobcat
#

some theorise they're memories of the prince.

tawny summit
#

Also i wonder how the winged light's statues covered with darkness are all accumulated in eden, not other realms

#

Ooh thank you for the docs!!

gilded fossil
#

/ ~~hi guys pSkyPeek ~~

thin dirge
#

Actually, it may also go to Ancestors too

#

Oh, hi Jen

gilded fossil
#

/ yay a moff!!!!!!

hushed steeple
#

Probably other sky children who tried to defeat Eden but failed

#

Hi Jen

thin dirge
#

Idk where those children in Eden came from

kind bobcat
#

Was there might be an apocalypse that made them extinct? And skykids are living to relive the post-apocalyptic realms
@tawny summit Also, this is a chart made out of my personal headcanon and other people's theories.

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that ain't canon ^

thin dirge
#

It’s the statues in Eden that really doesn’t fit almost anywhere in my headcanons-

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Or theories I mean

kind bobcat
#

in my headcanon, a war led to the destruction of the kingdom.

hushed steeple
#

I think that was lamed who was saying that
@inner comet Why's it Lamed?

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Like hows Lamed talking if he is dead

gilded fossil
#

/lamed's the vault...? elder???

hushed steeple
#

Yea

kind bobcat
#

Lamed isn't dead

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nor alive

hushed steeple
#

O

gilded fossil
#

/deadnt

tawny summit
#

So,, there's a possibility to skykids to not reincarnate properly

hushed steeple
#

Basically like zombies

kind bobcat
#

maybe.

tawny summit
#

Btw thanku for the chart this is interesting

gilded fossil
#

/yes there's always a possibility for everything kumo

hushed steeple
#

Your welcome kumolime

kind bobcat
#

with the current canon lore, almost everything is possible

tawny summit
#

Btw what is megabird?

kind bobcat
#

God

hushed steeple
kind bobcat
#

sky god

gilded fossil
#

/megan

hushed steeple
#

Megan

tawny summit
#

Ooh ok

gilded fossil
#

/jinx lol

thin dirge
#

Wasnt that mentioned in the moff doc...?

kind bobcat
#

shout_b pManta shout_a
@hushed steeple that's a manta SkyLOL

tawny summit
#

I havent read it all lmao

gilded fossil
#

/we should call it mood doc

tawny summit
#

Might come back after i finished it!

thin dirge
#

It was auto correct-

#

Darn iPhone-

hushed steeple
gilded fossil
#

/you do know by looking up you can also see her right?

hushed steeple
#

Also orbit is like Megan's soul or smth like that

#

Yep

thin dirge
#

Also, end credits

gilded fossil
#

/ ah sorry

kind bobcat
hushed steeple
#

I think she's that flame eight there

kind bobcat
#

concept megan

#

spaghet monster

hushed steeple
#

Oh yea she resembles the cape too

gilded fossil
#

/that's the go to pic tho

hushed steeple
#

That's her wig SkyLOL

solar relic
#

i swear that's a mop pPopcorn

gilded fossil
#

/there's plenty of drawings of megan we dont use as much

hushed steeple
#

Res SkyLOL

thin dirge
#

Here it is

#

In its whole glory

gilded fossil
#

/ so pretty pWow

hushed steeple
#

I think the flame at the end of credits is Megan

late sigil
#

Just something i realised til now, is that light creatures have bones but darkness creatures probably dont? Im assuming skids dont have bones because their physical bodies are made entirely of darkness and they dont take fall damage? Im not sure about krills, but they are certainly very flexible creatures, and shrimps dont even have bones. While at graveyard, theres huge bones ontop of stones that was once belonged to a dead whalerip. I think this isnt really important but its an odd detail that randomly popped inside my mind outta nowhere

thin dirge
#

Nah, it’s the big birb constellation at the end. The candle after that is our candle and our flame/inner light

kind bobcat
#

yeah, we haven't seen much dark creature skeletons

hushed steeple
#

It's dead turtles

kind bobcat
#

the graveyard skeleton looks like a turtle's

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or whurtle.

#

still unsure whether it's a light or dark creature

hushed steeple
late sigil
#

what theres actually turtles in game?

hushed steeple
#

You literally gave it a name? SkyLOL

kind bobcat
#

dark creatures however have exoskeletons, if you look closely at a krill their underbelly is soft

#

no, blue gave it a name.

solar relic
#

the skulls in graveyard are of turtles

#

but the bodies are of whales

#

hence whurtles

tawny summit
#

Came back after reading the doc

gilded fossil
#

/ i mean it would be very uncomfortable if you're eating crabs and there's full of bones

hushed steeple
#

Yea before the corruption era accured

late sigil
#

oh i see, and i suppose dark creatures are heavily inspired from sea animals

thin dirge
#

There used to be turtles in early beta? But they had to remove it

#

I think

#

I’m not sure

gilded fossil
#

/yup

#

/clogging burns phone

late sigil
#

i think beta stuff arent canon anymore

solar relic
#

yes there was a turtle in pre-global from a quest but it was pretty much pointless so it went poof

#

that's what i remember anyway

hushed steeple
#

Well what type of creature has a turtle head other than a turtle ._.

late sigil
#

imagine riding a turtle tho 😳

tawny summit
#

Flying turtle brr

thin dirge
#

Whale? Has an interesting skull... Same with Elder Mantas

hushed steeple
#

Is there any pic of that turtle?👀

#

Ahh Amio! Your back

solar relic
#

i doubt we've seen the graveyard creatures when they were alive in game yet, i'm guessing they fused the turtle and whale together and we could see them in the future

late sigil
#

Whales and elder mantas are the same

hushed steeple
solar relic
#

they're very different lol

hushed steeple
#

Hi allstickerWave

#

Whales and elder mantas are the same
@late sigil Uh no

gilded fossil
#

/nope

late sigil
#

OH

hushed steeple
#

Whale is a big fish whale the elder Manta is a adult Manta

kind bobcat
#

elder mantas are as the name suggest, elder mantas

late sigil
#

elder mantas are thespider looking ones

gilded fossil
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/whale is tuna king and elder manta are chonky mantas

solar relic
#

they both have the 'elder' mask. they are similar in being 'elders' of their species (that's what i think)

gilded fossil
#

/one has yellow and one does not

hushed steeple
#

Exact same with krills

gilded fossil
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/wdym? the mask??

hushed steeple
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Btw it seems the elder manta wearing a helmet

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There used to be elder krills during the downfall/corruption era who knows what happened to them only evidence we have are the bones

tawny summit
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Which one is the elder manta?

late sigil
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also iirc theres alot of circle looking buildings in the concept arts and the megabird kinda looks like a circle so maybe both are possibly related

hushed steeple
solar relic
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they both have a mask/helmet-looking thing for their heads

hushed steeple
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:0

gilded fossil
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/long tail vs short tail

tawny summit
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That is, a manta?

hushed steeple
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Ya

tawny summit
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I thought that's a whole different species

hushed steeple
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/long tail vs short tail
@gilded fossil No ots obese vs on a diet

gilded fossil
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/upper one, no

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/lower one yess

tawny summit
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I've been calling it whale the whole time

gilded fossil
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/upper one is a whale

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/lower one is elder manta

tawny summit
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Ooh understood

late sigil
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arent whales and mantas the same species?

gilded fossil
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/maybe??? but in game whale has no yellow

hushed steeple
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Omg we already said this

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no

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Why there's diamond symbol everywherepFIRE

gilded fossil
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/elders trademarrk

hushed steeple
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Even normal mantas have diamond symbol

tawny summit
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Isn't that like the diamond in skykids' chest

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Like their center of light

solar relic
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diamonds have many different meanings and uses in sky pPopcorn

hushed steeple
lyric isle
hushed steeple
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Mantas are robots?

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O.o

gilded fossil
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/did the elders copy the mantas??

hushed steeple
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Seems like powered diamond tbh

late sigil
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Then what are skids ancestors hwta?\

gilded fossil
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/or the mantas are kidnapped by the elders??

hushed steeple
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Seems like powered diamond tbh
@hushed steeple Exactly

solar relic
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what if those manta diamonds are actually the power diamonds? pEyes

hushed steeple
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And they harvest the diamonds from them

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Like sheep they can grow it back

late sigil
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Oh yeah

hushed steeple
gilded fossil
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/okay then would did ppl put it on them??

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/or is it natural?

hushed steeple
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Natural

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Are those robotsstickerShock

late sigil
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I forgot abt the whole prairie and forest exchange thing

solar relic
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i think those diamonds are naturally occurring

hushed steeple
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They probs grow it back after ppl harvest their diamond

solar relic
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the natural "diamonds" from mantas might have been the core of power diamonds

hushed steeple
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Like if you skin sheep for their wool

lyric isle
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So the core of being

that descendants also have

gilded fossil
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/or, alternatively, kill the manta, gget the diamond, use the leather to make capes

hushed steeple
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NO

gilded fossil
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/ we waste nothing from the manta farms

late sigil
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Then where did the bodies came from

hushed steeple
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But what if those aren't natural?stickerShock

gilded fossil
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/ grind the mantas

solar relic
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the manta cape is confirmed not to be made of an actual manta the capes are family friendly

lyric isle
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Wearing the cape makes me uncomfortable sometimes xjdjocnrifjrkfbckbdkdjcjjc

hushed steeple
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DAS JUST CRUEL

solar relic
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light creatures are confirmed to be naturally occurring

lyric isle
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What about krill?

late sigil
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Hold on, MANTA CAPe??

solar relic
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darkness creatures,, we don't know

lyric isle
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I wonder how many times I’ve mentioned the war machine belief

solar relic
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no, the manta cape wasn't made out of an actual manta don't worry

hushed steeple
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Then where did the bodies came from
@late sigil Well the creatures of light are literally made out of liht think of it like a star the star used to be hydrogen and helium atoms that bonded together to make something

lyric isle
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I’ve mentioned it about 10 times

hushed steeple
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Ooop i quoted the wrong one

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Actually wait I didn't

gilded fossil
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Hold on, MANTA CAPe??
@late sigil /yes manta cape

hushed steeple
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Well what skykids wear those capes are made of light
But what our ancestors wear idk about thatSkyShrug

late sigil
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Well skids arent purely made out of light

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nvm

gilded fossil
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/they be made out of gatorade

late sigil
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jesus not this again

hushed steeple
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Our ancestors were not that good tho👀

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Jen stop making us fight over who's right and who's wrong

solar relic
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it's never a normal day in lore chat without jen theorising that skids are made out of gatorade

hushed steeple
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And goober simultaneously bullying me >:0

kind bobcat
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:O

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what did i do

hushed steeple
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Btw found something scary.... Not lore related I'm sure. But i want to sharepFIRE

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:0

kind bobcat
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:0

hushed steeple
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:0

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:∆

kind bobcat
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okay don't spam

hushed steeple
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Ok

solar relic
hushed steeple
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Okie

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Hey Goober?

kind bobcat
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yes Oopsy

hushed steeple
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you broke

kind bobcat
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i broke

hushed steeple
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:)

solar relic
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anyway back to lore frens pPopcorn

hushed steeple
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That's quite creepy

gilded fossil
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/so why are the crabs in sanc so white and hostile??

hushed steeple
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Maybe no dark corruption water

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Maybe

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2 aren't hostile tho

solar relic
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possibilities

  1. lighting
  2. lack of icky wasteland water
  3. maybe ask ginko
kind bobcat
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res

hushed steeple
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Wh-

kind bobcat
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where's your opening song transcript again?

solar relic
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i didn't do the transcript-

kind bobcat
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who did

hushed steeple
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Ginko is listening beware pSquint

gilded fossil
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/ i summon gink

kind bobcat
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hand me the transcript

solar relic
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opening song as in the one from launch/pre-global?

kind bobcat
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no, the song in isle

undone harbor
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What transcript

solar relic
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ah the full song by aurora? let me find it

hushed steeple
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Back to lore guys

solar patio
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that isle music i hear pEyes
gimme transcript too

gilded fossil
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/is that a conlang she singing or pure gibberish?

undone harbor
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/is that a conlang she singing or pure gibberish?
@gilded fossil sky language

solar relic
hushed steeple
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We don't know sky language at all so....

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We don't know if it is sky language

solar relic
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there is confirmed to be a skyskrit

undone harbor
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THIS IS BEAUTIFUL

After having spent many hours on this, I’ve finally come up with my own interpretation of “Constellation”, the song that plays during the credits and partially during the opening sequence.
Here I will provide the original vocals written in our own alphabet, followed by an English interpretation (that isn’t a direct translation, but very close):
Original:
”Mên lo-oh di in-oh —
F’orl dâph a l’æ,
ni sou rev maôn hâriet,
laô Sou Rân.
Nae-oh lae-oh t’ed gân
f’orl dâph mên,
ni ko l’oh, liv ko l’oh,
Sou Rân.”

Translation:
”Soon you will be reborn –
To live again is your gift,
because life is full of many hardships,
little Child of Light.
Worry not; you have the chance
to live again, soon,
because the cycle never ends,
and the cycle never ends,
Child of Light."

(Reminder that this is my OWN interpretation of a made-up language, and could be completely different from what it actually means. It’s all just theory.)

solar relic
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uh

gilded fossil
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/no cold ping

kind bobcat
solar relic
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all of us rn

undone harbor
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oh no
OH NO.

gilded fossil
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/sealier maybe remove the ping?

solar relic
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just leave it there but just remember to remove the ping next time

solar patio
solar relic
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oh hello noot pEyes SkyWave

kind bobcat
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oh hey noot, how nice of you to drop by.

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one of us, one of us, one of us

undone harbor
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I forgot about it I messed up aaaaa

hushed steeple
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ONE OF US

solar patio
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Hi hi,
It rare for me to actually talk here lol,
I usually just read this chat before bed

undone harbor
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sweet dreams of lore

hushed steeple
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Hi hi,
It rare for me to actually talk here lol,
I usually just read this chat before bed
@solar patio ONE OF US ONE OF US ONE OF US

undone harbor
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maybe you'll find something

solar relic
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i like how a lot of people read the lore chat like it's a newspaper in the morning or at night SkyLOL pPopcorn

hushed steeple
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I played the song in backward,also checked the spectrogram of the song
Nothing really interesting found
But the backward version was creepy

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Do share

solar patio
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ooohhh?

gilded fossil
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/ have you tried backward and then do the spectogram upsidedown

hushed steeple
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No

solar relic
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just a shot in the dark but i was thinking that some of the symbols that we see like on the bells and in the vault mural make up the lyrics of the song

undone harbor
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can different parts of the spectogram be pieced together?

gilded fossil
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/ lore chat being desperate for answers^

undone harbor
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that can happen,but words everywhere is tiring

solar patio
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mess withthe song until we get answers stickerShiny

undone harbor
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WE DON'T NEED SLEEP WE NEED ANSWERS

hushed steeple
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No

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We don't need sleep nor we need answers

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We need

gilded fossil
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/gatorade

solar patio
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lore

hushed steeple
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Ginko to solve all of this

kind bobcat
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just a shot in the dark but i was thinking that some of the symbols that we see like on the bells and in the vault mural make up the lyrics of the song
@solar relic maybe if we can know where the lyrics are from, as in from what text, we can decipher it

hushed steeple
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Sadly we don't know

solar relic
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now if only we'd be able to decipher skyskrit in the future 😌

hushed steeple
undone harbor
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Devs we only need one stroke of translated text pls

hushed steeple
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👀

kind bobcat
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there is no hidden meaning in the moff doc

hushed steeple
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Also what if the song is just gibberish and the writings amd stuff were skribbles

undone harbor
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maybe if we asked enough then devs will give us a clue

hushed steeple
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No

solar relic
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i would cry if that were the case but it is confirmed that there is a conlang

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vincent diamante did it

hushed steeple
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Ginko

undone harbor
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wait what

gilded fossil
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/wait which tweeet??

undone harbor
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source pls

hushed steeple
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Ginko is the only person we have who has a big brain

solar relic
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it was in the ost thread let me get it

hushed steeple
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We need Ginko

kind bobcat
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Ginko is the only person we have who has a big brain
@hushed steeple you underestimate our power

hushed steeple
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Ok

undone harbor
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this is lore chat

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the biggest of brains

hushed steeple
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But where even is Ginko

undone harbor
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stick together

nocturne zealot
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who's ginko?

hushed steeple
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We all use our braincells together pFIRE

undone harbor
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but like

hushed steeple
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Ginkomimi

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Amio is correct

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This is lore chat

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The place where everyone argues

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Anyway gtgSkyYay
Bye allstickerWave

gilded fossil
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/unless someone gets in and ask about why the lore is so vague

hushed steeple
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NOOOOOO OUR SECOND BIG BRAIN

undone harbor
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I heard a story about archeologists suggesting a hole on the roof of some houses in a region and they thought it was for godly ceremonies
Turns out when they ask the locals they said it was for chickens

gilded fossil
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/then we all agree that lore is very vague

undone harbor
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lesson here is we might have looked too deep into this cluelessly

solar patio
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Meanwhile im just here pPopcorn

undone harbor
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wayyyy too vague

hushed steeple
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Guys before we move into speculations and dive deep into the story line

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We need to move on to the facts not the speculation

solar relic
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ah sorry my mistake, some of his conlang work was used as inspiration woops. but this confirms that there is a conlang for the song

undone harbor
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but let's try to find out anyways because the local here don't even speak

kind bobcat
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so the conlang is related to emotes in a way.

hushed steeple
kind bobcat
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In some emotes, a song gets played when you use it.

hushed steeple
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What does that mean

kind bobcat
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what if the conlang IS the song

hushed steeple
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AND THE SONG IS IN CONLANG

undone harbor
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Goober what have you done

hushed steeple
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:O

undone harbor
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you absolute genius

kind bobcat
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i have used 100% of my braincell

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now it's dead

undone harbor
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oof

hushed steeple
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I think mines dead too

gilded fossil
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/goober recharge it

undone harbor
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your braincells will be remembered

gilded fossil
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/we will need it again

undone harbor
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ok everyone we gonna latch on that theory until it deems useless

hushed steeple
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Wut abt my braincells? :<

tender dune
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what's happening

solar patio
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Goober's braincell is one but a big one

gilded fossil
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/eeeeeeeeeey

thin dirge
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Hey, I noticed something y’all

hushed steeple
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YESS

thin dirge
undone harbor
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HI
I HEARD ABOUT YOUR BRAINCELLS

hushed steeple
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GINKO SAVE US

thin dirge
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The sleeves

gilded fossil
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/watsit butter

thin dirge
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It has triangles on them

hushed steeple
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Ok but what abt my braincells guys?