lore-discussion-spoilers

[compact olive]

Oriaan some of it can be hinted at in game

[lethal stump]

Null do you write it as cannon on purpose ?

[dapper copper]

watch the videos

[fierce spade]

im watching them, wht is it exactly you want us to pay attention to?

[wintry tiger]

If Forest Elder was wearing the King's Crown, why wasn't she able to put together the power diamond in her cutscene?

[hushed steeple]

Today, I got killed several times while trying to take pics of all of the shields in the battlefield

[short owl]

You have seen my typing Brick

Why you feel the need to call me out

[hushed steeple]

will it be worth it, who knows?

[dapper copper]

im watching them, wht is it exactly you want us to pay attention to?
@fierce spade mask above the forest entrance is old forest elder's mask

[hushed steeple]

I believe that's just an Easter egg, not related to current lore

Ok so what if we aren't the king reincarnated, but the winged light we use, are peices of the king? Cause why would dead skykids be scattered all over sky? When skykids die they harden, lose light, shatter then reincarnate. But the winged light we see throughout sky is an embodiment of light.

[fierce spade]

yeah the mask for the elder is present in their stage?

[hushed steeple]

And so the child we see after we die, the one we hug. Is the last piece of the king?

[dapper copper]

is it just bad quality of the photo with backstory timaline or my pc has bad graphics?

[compact olive]

Jenova chen explicitly says we are wake up and are “the child of light”
Which makes Bricky’s theory of being

[hushed steeple]

What theory?

[lethal stump]

it changes depending on which dev you ask, some refer to us in the singular others in the plural

[dapper copper]

wait

lemme do something

[frail hearth]

even if it's not canon, the "we are all one and one is us all" (in the old timeline) caught my eye. before entering orbit, we can see light creatures together, forming a megabird-looking thingy

[hushed steeple]

Hm yes

[lyric isle]

good eye

that makes sense

[hushed steeple]

We all have a piece of Megan inside; together, we're Megan

[dapper copper]

wait

portals in aviary are not broken

in light avaits

portals in children of the light are broken

gate at isle in light avaits is normal

and in cotl it's broken

[compact olive]

Theory that we are the reincarnated child of light/possible king/prince/Alef

[frail hearth]

brb

[dapper copper]

everything seems ruined and put back together

[hushed steeple]

Yeah, in Light Awaits
which is not exactly canon

What is light awaits?

An earlier build of the game

[dapper copper]

fnaf matpat theories flashbacks intensives after saying "put back togheter"

[hushed steeple]

You could call it the true beta, since it wasn't officially released
(it was called Light Awaits during the development of the game)

[dapper copper]

buttt

it may not mean anything....

but why things from light avaits and concept things are in game files?

and as i know light avaits is still avable on the app store

and rn it is just the same with cotl

[hushed steeple]

Aren't you confusing the current beta build and LA?

[dapper copper]

idk

[spring blaze]

light awaits was like the limited live version of sky

if people still have the app, it’s up to date with the current live app children of the light (because light awaits was a live version anyway). but the devs arent going to support light awaits forever and eventually will stop updating it to match children of the light

not lore related but even though its cool the have the app, its best to play sky on the official live app children of the light because of that ^^^

aaaannddd technically since light awaits and children of the light are on the same build, whatever was on light awaits before global launch isnt considered canon anymore

[dapper copper]

this

and this

i won't stop sorry

[frail hearth]

yes

[lyric isle]

that was

I confess

the first thing I noticed

[dapper copper]

i see soooooo much things and little aspects that i can't stop showing that

prophecy masks have sooo similiar design to the old concept masks hidden in the files

ultimate gift, if u delete the halo looks almost identical as one of the masks

[lyric isle]

Correct

but Beta stays in Beta

[dapper copper]

yea........

[cerulean wraith]

Mannnnnn I have a few theories for Prophecy but Beta stays in Beta 😔😔😔😔

[frail hearth]

star

[dapper copper]

write honk emote if u think much things in light avaits were better than now

[frail hearth]

well yeah LA had a bunch of interesting stuff

[dapper copper]

anddd

[hushed steeple]

Does the Valley door shows the eden castle?

[dapper copper]

what is megan theory and other

i'm late

Does the Valley door shows the eden castle?
@hushed steeple yes it shows

i think

[hushed steeple]

I want to know the whole lore so bad

What happened to eden

What happened to all the spirits

How are only kids left

Hey Milan, are you new to lore?

[dapper copper]

BrOkE

i'm new too

[hushed steeple]

Yeah I am pretty new

I just read something about a godlike person

Well, we have a doc that summarizes pretty much what we know (the old story too)

Lemme go get it

[dapper copper]

WhAt iS MeGaN tHeOrY

[hushed steeple]

Hello new Lore Moff!
Read this short document to get started! Once you’ve read this, check out pins for more information. stickerHeart
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit

Credits to Bricky

Thanks

[dapper copper]

thx

So AcTuAlLy ThErE iS kInG aNd PrInCe RiGhT???!!!

[hushed steeple]

Yeah, but that's basically all we know

[short owl]

Worse
We know they
"Kind of"
Exist

[dapper copper]

i've read the document

absolutely too much place for theories

first

maybe megan is like rosalina in smg 1 and 2?

watch Peach is dead in smg video.

Game theorist

[compact olive]

If CoL = prince
Skykid = CoL

SKid = prince

Prince = king

[dapper copper]

hmmmmm

[compact olive]

We are the king!

[hushed steeple]

We could be

Ok so the eden elder can't be saved anymore?

[compact olive]

(Plays Queen’s “princes of the universe” on the boom box)

That’s what one dev said, Milan

I’m a fan only of the lore, never played it.

But that’s just a theory...a game theory...(and goes back to sky convo)

[dapper copper]

oke

[hushed steeple]

Yup, try to focus on the lore of sky

[dapper copper]

okeee

[compact olive]

Is no one else excited that sanctuary helps us answer a huuuuuuuge ecology concern in Sky?

[dapper copper]

yaaa

[frail hearth]

so the geysers are light too?

jayshdj

[compact olive]

It represents that creatures of light are reborn/evolved from the geysers

[frail hearth]

OH

so that's why they recharge us,,,

[compact olive]

So the point of the life cycle of creatures of light is...
Start at a butterfly...
get brogutnto Eden pass orbit and come back down to sky planet out of geysers as the next reincarnation/evolution...a bird...then a baby manta...then mama manta...then queen mama manta etc.

[hushed steeple]

Ok wow

[frail hearth]

this is more complicated than i thought woah

[hushed steeple]

But why dont that happen to us

The children of light

Why don't we evolve

[dapper copper]

what is the corruption

[compact olive]

We are the most evolved creature imaginable

Sentient creatures of light

[lyric isle]

Eden’s prob holy

[compact olive]

With opposable thumbs and able to learn back flips on the first try

[hushed steeple]

Hm ok

Lol

[compact olive]

Eden is/was the holy land where all creatures of light went to rejoin Megabird and be reborn/evolve

[hushed steeple]

Maybe the diamond was way smaller then

[lethal stump]

maybe the diamond was made the harness the power of the beam

[compact olive]

Diamonds ♦️ weren’t invented until Teth showed up

[hushed steeple]

Teth is the forest elder?

[hushed steeple]

Yes thats what i thought

The king loosed control over himself

[dapper copper]

wait

WHERE AND FROM WHERE ACTUALLY THE STARS FELL?!

WHAT ARE WE?

[lethal stump]

it’s assumed they came from orbit or something similar

[dapper copper]

SORRY BUT.......

[frail hearth]

we are uh light..? lol-

[hushed steeple]

The stars are the elders that fell down

I read that

[lethal stump]

can you please not yell in all caps ?

[dapper copper]

okie sorry

[lethal stump]

write out your questions and we’ll try our best to answer them

[dapper copper]

okiee

sorry

[hushed steeple]

Ok so the giant beam comes from eden diamond

[dapper copper]

sky is starting to be like religion or something

[hushed steeple]

When we die we get to the black giant room

[dapper copper]

u know

[hushed steeple]

So I'm assuming the giant beam existed before the diamond was there...

[dapper copper]

prophets like in the bible

[hushed steeple]

And then the diamond was created to harness that power?

[compact olive]

Milan not “from” but the diamond ♦️ is placed over it, so yeah, technically (beacon was there before diamond was built)

[hushed steeple]

Ok so we are not in the diamond after we die?

[viral meadow]

Question: Who is Elif the Diamond?

[lethal stump]

elif ?

sounds like a misspelling of Alef

[viral meadow]

O

But who is that?

[lethal stump]

Isle: Daleth (ד)
Prairie: Ayin (ע)
Forest: Teth (ט)
Valley: Samekh (ס)
Wasteland: Tsadi (צ)
Vault: Lamed (ל)
Prince: Alef (א)
King: Resh (ר)
PLEASE NOTE: These names have appeared in concept art and are often used when referring to the elders. They are no longer canon, they are fanon.

[viral meadow]

Ohh

Thank you!

[lethal stump]

np

[dapper copper]

i watched momo sky's video rn

[hushed steeple]

Which one?

[dapper copper]

u can like

grow a good relation ship with a manta?

[hushed steeple]

What?

[dapper copper]

fly peacefully

and after sone time manta will fly peacefully?

[compact olive]

Ok so we are not in the diamond after we die?
@hushed steeple I believe we are inside the diamond ♦️ when we hug the child of light. Then we zip out of the diamond up the beacon of light to orbit

[dapper copper]

or something?

[livid crypt]

@dapper copper maybe your questions would be better suited to #questions-and-help or #general-sky-discussion

[compact olive]

What question do you have Sani?

[hushed steeple]

What?

Well i don't have a question

I was just gonna add something

[compact olive]

You had a ? Emote to the “> Ok so we are not in the diamond after we die?
@hushed steeple I believe we are inside the diamond ♦️ when we hug the child of light. Then we zip out of the diamond up the beacon of light to orbit”

Please do!

[hushed steeple]

I believe we are inside the diamond diamonds when we hug the child of light. Then we zip out of the diamond up the beacon of light to orbit

I have a theory that the prince/king is trapped in that diamond, which could be the child we hug but

That's all I was gonna add, thanks

[compact olive]

I do too... I heavily believe we merge with the prince.

[hushed steeple]

Yeah its possible

Thats a good point tho

But does that contradict the statement that "the prince/king isn't around to be saved anymore"?

[dapper copper]

maybe the elders as in the concept art evolved from the strange light animals?

[hushed steeple]

Also, do only light creatures evolve?

Didn't they said "the eden elder isn't around to be saved anymore"? So maybe the king and the prince aren't the same person

Cause those are the only things we see in the concepts that evolve when reborn

And only the prince is left

Oh maybe

[dapper copper]

But does that contradict the statement that "the prince/king isn't around to be saved anymore"?
@hushed steeple Maybe we DON'T actually "save him". Maybe he gives us his power and dies so we can live and then we are one with him?

[hushed steeple]

Ohh yeah thats a good point

[short owl]

Maybe we hug a memory of the prince and he's already dead?

[frail hearth]

my heart just broke

[short owl]

Sorry

[compact olive]

You don’t save him. He saves you

The prince that is.

The king is long since dead

[dapper copper]

MAYBE we are actually a girl and we are lost love of the prince?!

[compact olive]

Only his statues remain to remind us

[lethal stump]

i don’t think TGC would assign a gender to the player, nor the prince for that matter

[dapper copper]

And maybe sky is a game for girls not bois?

[lethal stump]

TGC has said before that the people in sky are genderless, it’s not a gendered game

[hushed steeple]

what

[frail hearth]

i feel like we are saving us both:
only his soul remains and he needs a physical body to go back to the world
only our body remains and we need light to keep being alive

[short owl]

Anyone else find that (romance with the prince) less relatable than running through a time loop and delivering light until your dying moment only to be saved by someone who is forever trapped in a the role of Death?

[compact olive]

How is the jelly kid born......? Oh my god Bricky I think you’ve come up with a fantastic theory!!!!!!!,

!!!,!

Check it

[hushed steeple]

what where?

[compact olive]

The jelly kid is a kid... it’s an ancestor but it’s a kid...
right?

[lethal stump]

gender ≠ physiology
there might still be reproductive organs, just not the same social constructs as us earthlings

[compact olive]

The life cycle of creatures of light are to be sent to Eden and be reborn butttttt reincarnated into an evolved form...

[dapper copper]

hmmmmm

hmmmmmmmm,

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[compact olive]

Guess who else goes to Eden to be reborn?

[hushed steeple]

all the light creatures leveled up

[compact olive]

Maybe the kids get reborn into adults, and adults get reborn into older ancestors with beards and broken backs and bad hips and stuff...wiser...older...stronger, makes us better (singing Daft Punk)

[hushed steeple]

I reborned like 7 times and still look the same

[compact olive]

Because we are forever a child of light

[dapper copper]

i thinked about skykids evolving into elders

[compact olive]

Or...maybe the grow spells and resizing spells handle that theory?

[hushed steeple]

the holy site and the surrounding looks like a seamount

Does that life cycle work for other beings besides the creatures, cause all that's there are the creatures evolving

[dapper copper]

what is that island near home

[hushed steeple]

I think its just a random island

[lethal stump]

it’s where the opening cutscene takes place, Claus

[compact olive]

It kinda does look like seamount

[hushed steeple]

What?

Where's the info for this?

a huge seamount

[compact olive]

Sani the proof is long gone as no one can visit the island anymore, and one old adventurer had a screenshot of the island and the cutscene mechanics drawn on the side of it....

[tender dune]

ashen took pics of the island again recently

[hushed steeple]

Where is this?

Woww that's cool!

[compact olive]

Gink!! Sup!
And show meeeeeeee!!

[hushed steeple]

I didn't know about this, thx

[dapper copper]

where

[tender dune]

https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/632004389137154048/748129573274910801
https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/632004389137154048/748130007217340437

[lethal stump]

[compact olive]

Ash I love you

Okay so yeah, that’s the island in home space.

[dapper copper]

how to get here?

sideways rocket somehow?

i'm on sky plz tell

[compact olive]

Does that life cycle work for other beings besides the creatures, cause all that's there are the creatures evolving
@hushed steeple well we only see the evolutionary product not the actual process so who’s to say all things of light don’t evolve ?

[tender dune]

we cant

its very windy

[dapper copper]

so how he?

[hushed steeple]

Yeah thats tru

[tender dune]

we dont know claus

[dapper copper]

sideways rocket is possible?

[compact olive]

What I’m moooooore interested in is the implication muahahaha

If creatures of light (boo’fly>baby manta>mama manta>etc)

Evolve...

Then do creatures of darkness elvovle as well?

[sacred rapids]

[compact olive]

We at least know that darkness can come from an unnatural death....
darkness on whale bones
Darkness on dying/trapped miner

Do these darkness plants 🌱...evolve...?

[sacred rapids]

I can tell that they can grow but don't know about evolution

[hushed steeple]

what is the altitude of eden?

[tender dune]

u think those dark plants grow fast?

[compact olive]

Or is darkness the opposite of light in the respect that only things of light through Megan can evolve and darkness is just an ever pressing state of decay

[dapper copper]

guys wait

[tender dune]

seemed like they grew fast to me if they trapped the crying spirit

[dapper copper]

i will try to get to the island with a fren

[compact olive]

Maybe the crying spirit was trapped in there for many years? Lol that’s almost comical

[sacred rapids]

maybe there are multiple species of darkness plants

[hushed steeple]

well we see variations of the dark plants, ones with thorns surrounding the fruits

[sacred rapids]

like the ones with orbs and without

[tender dune]

or did the crying spirit and friends fall from upstairs?

[dapper copper]

guysss

[tender dune]

cuz there is a stairs

[compact olive]

what is the altitude of eden?
@hushed steeple Eden castle surpasses into the atmosphere, sort of like a tower of bable

[grim tundra]

In Citadel, there are 4 small orbs over the turntables, each at ascending heights. Then there's the giant multi-layered orb in the middle.

Is that supposed to be the sun? Or maybe the capital, with four kingdoms around it?

[sacred rapids]

it's a armillary sphere it's used to track space stuff

[tender dune]

its an artillery sphere i think

that^

armillary

[sacred rapids]

I am speed

[tender dune]

i cant english

[dapper copper]

listen to meee

[sacred rapids]

what's up?

[compact olive]

(Listening)

[hushed steeple]

Whys an armillary there? Why is it before the race?

[grim tundra]

Yes

[sacred rapids]

how do I know? I'm trying to buy one just to have

[compact olive]

Darkness...plant..... has thorns...

[tender dune]

ive seen different types of them tho

[hushed steeple]

ya

[tender dune]

the ones with thorns and the ones that block like fungi

[compact olive]

Krill krillatail:

[tender dune]

and the biiig ones in graveyard

[compact olive]

[tender dune]

and the smol starting ones in praire

[frank hazel]

Did you know that there used to be darkness plants sticking to trees in Sky conceptual art

[sacred rapids]

different species of plant

there was?

[hushed steeple]

Are all the trees dead?

[compact olive]

Maybe evolutions!

[sacred rapids]

oh

[compact olive]

Krill has thorns tooooo

[frank hazel]

I'll try to find the art

[sacred rapids]

thanks

[compact olive]

It looks like black bubble gum stuck to a tree trunk

With red or orange light in X’s on it

I know what you’re referring to Silv. I gotchuu

[sacred rapids]

there are different type of light but not different types of dark so dark thingys looking similar would make sense

[grim tundra]

Is that a dark butterfly in the exhausted shipbuilder's cutscene?

[sacred rapids]

wait what?

[hushed steeple]

Do the trees even got leafs?

🤔

[sacred rapids]

they have clouds

that's the best I can tell

[tender dune]

do u have a pic buck?

[grim tundra]

A greyish butterfly goes past his head when he's hammering, and he follows it over to his bunk and passes out.

[sacred rapids]

[hushed steeple]

Isnt that just the color of the memory?

[sacred rapids]

I think it probably is

[grim tundra]

@hushed steeple that what I've always assumed... But why would the butterfly lead him to his bunk to pass out?

[compact olive]

That took longer than expected

Sorry at work

[sacred rapids]

oh wow

[indigo scarab]

The tree in vault has leaves so they probably once did

[sacred rapids]

it looks like lava ngl

now that's why the trees look like their made out of stone

[frank hazel]

https://www.tomzhao.com/sky1

A bunch of concept art by Tom Zhao. Enjoy

[lethal stump]

it’s already in the pins, but thank you

[frank hazel]

Oh

[sacred rapids]

you didn't have to say that bricky

hmm what else we got to think about

[frank hazel]

The bird-inspired capes in some conceptual artworks

[sacred rapids]

heck yeah send those in

[thorn trout]

GIB BIRD CAPE

[sacred rapids]

is it the manta cape but slightly different?

[thorn trout]

BIRD CAPE BIRD CAPE AHH

Some are like. Longer than the child

[frank hazel]

Too bad our game would crash if we had capes like these

:(

[sacred rapids]

I want no. 6, 8, 12

[frank hazel]

The first four look like possibilities

[sacred rapids]

the last 4 also look possible

[compact olive]

We havethe butterfly one

[frank hazel]

Yeah the last few ones remind me of the butterfly cape's shape

[sacred rapids]

but I would really love the middle 6

[compact olive]

And if you charge your wings same color

[frank hazel]

And the ones between the first four and the last four remind me of Journey

[sacred rapids]

I want someone to hug me in no. 4

[thorn trout]

Unfortunately, we're a little off the topic of lore XD

[sacred rapids]

[frank hazel]

[frail hearth]

wait corrupt descendant,,?

[compact olive]

[sacred rapids]

wait is that a dark stingray?

[compact olive]

The fallen a.k.a. The stone children in Eden eye of the storm

[thorn trout]

(It's alright, I don't like being an annoying person either XD
But we gotta keep it open so other people feel free to drop in and feel like they won't disturb us!)

[compact olive]

It’s krill concept jouske

[frail hearth]

oo

[frank hazel]

@thorn trout I love your Forest mama pfp

[sacred rapids]

I feel like those creature things would jump out of the ground and attack

[frank hazel]

Ok so what if Forest mama is our actual king

😳

[thorn trout]

@frank hazel ty ty

And uh
What

[frank hazel]

LOL

[tender dune]

it grants the ancestors technology and power but is also the source of their corruption (thats it boys we solved the mystery imma pack 💼 )

[thorn trout]

She definitely has ties to the king, considering her mask shape and the power diamonds, but probably not XDDDD

[heavy eagle]

We believe in Forest mama supremacy

[thorn trout]

...True

[frank hazel]

She definitely has ties to the king, considering her mask shape and the power diamonds, but probably not XDDDD
@thorn trout Ok what I did not think that far please slow down my brain empty

[lethal stump]

you sound new to lore chat, Silv

[compact olive]

What if the king is just a position that only children of light can fill?
Like the king is reincarnated every time... and only one king fell to corruption?

[frank hazel]

I'm not new

Just not the serious type

[tender dune]

no incoming lore moff doc

[thorn trout]

She probably missed the convo. I'll give a quick recap

Pfffft

[compact olive]

Was “pffft”the recap?

[frank hazel]

[thorn trout]

Oh shut it Oz!

[frank hazel]

I think I did miss some things

[sacred rapids]

most definitely

[lethal stump]

yeah, reading the canon doc at least would be a good idea

for a refresher

[frank hazel]

I read it

Twice iirc

[thorn trout]

1. If you look at the outline of the King and Teth's mask, you see they have a very similar star outline. King actually has the star, but Teth shares the same basic outline. You can look in concept art if you'd like, because I don't have any refs on hand
   (Headcanon: Teth made all the elder masks)

2. Teth, being a blacksmith, likely made the kingdom's power diamonds, when you consider her vague resemblance to the king. Possibly the large Eden one as well.

[dapper copper]

Me back and bye

[frank hazel]

Oh I am aware of that

Of the first part

[thorn trout]

...Well I suppose I did not need to recap that part then XD

[frank hazel]

But 2nd was education for my shrinking brain

[thorn trout]

But yeah, Teth probably was close to the king and probably made the kingdom's power diamond. Vaguely accepted theory here

[compact olive]

Headcanon: Teth corrupted king.

[thorn trout]

...Ooh boy

[compact olive]

She’s a builder. A forger of things

She crafted the dark stones, if she is a “goddess” she is the goddess of progression.

[frank hazel]

So in this case the other elders have their own connections with the King as well

[sacred rapids]

sky: teth the builder of destruction

[compact olive]

No weapon is made without her wisdom, no technology created without her guidance

[frank hazel]

They prob built the Kingdom together or something

And then boom
something happened
King gone

[compact olive]

She’s the only elder who has no care for the Sky child other than its light to recreate her diamond masterpiece... (aside from the playful twins) she feels no remorse until the veeeeeery end

[frank hazel]

I've been thinking ab the story that is being told in the very beginning of Sky

[sinful anvil]

i just think shes impatient to get on w her job and hates children

[frank hazel]

Will we really ever finish Sky completely

[compact olive]

Lol

[sacred rapids]

probably not silv

[compact olive]

Hates children of light is the catalyst for creator of darkness

[frank hazel]

Wait so we will never manage to achieve our main goals as sky children-

[sacred rapids]

teth the blacksmith of the end

[frank hazel]

[tender dune]

i think she just wanted to finish her masterpiece work. i mean. for how long has she been waiting and remaking that diamond endlessly only to find someone bring it. everyone finds her rude but i find her workaholic attitude justifiable

[compact olive]

And breaker of faces... can’t prove it yet but I’m almost certain she did something to Daleth’s face

[frank hazel]

I find Teth pretty funny nvm she's gone FERAL

[sinful anvil]

mb she sees us as slacking off

[thorn trout]

Why does everyone believe Teth did something to Daleth? I wonder what's the context here XD

Teth is that one character nobody understands but just. Lets her be out of fear

[tender dune]

i guess its more fanmade personality that lead to that lilly xD

[frank hazel]

Teth seems like a kind soul with a misunderstandable personality

[sinful anvil]

i feel like shes not evil. she’s just impatient

[tender dune]

her cutscene is sad

[frank hazel]

She seemed really lonely

[tender dune]

exactly!!

[sinful anvil]

but i hate her stance in front of the skykids. thats not how u face a child

[sacred rapids]

thinking on it teth seems to be like "finally" when taking your flame in the cutscene

[tender dune]

i think maybe, the other elders might have disliked her after she started working on making power diamonds thats why she's lonely

or started avoiding her

[compact olive]

(Plays. “ these boots were made for walking, and that’s just what they’ll do, one of these days these boots 👢 are gonna walk all over you!” By Nancy Sinatra as Teth walks into isle of dawn with her hammer in hand)

[thorn trout]

I am finally not alone in thinking Teth just has some trauma and issues and probably isn't evil!

[sacred rapids]

oh no
not like that oz

not like that

[compact olive]

The reason I have that head canon is because of this evidence

....

Their roles

[thorn trout]

...This channel is a disaster

[tender dune]

ive always been on teth's side lilly

if u were here a long time you'd probs know why

[thorn trout]

Teth fanbase aside from me and Ginko, where you at?
(Jk)

[sinful anvil]

mb teth is just impatient

[compact olive]

Teth is a builder... she creates tech. She stands for advancement...look at her high heels compared to ancestor gladiator sandals. She created the refinery.

And the. There’s ol’ Daleth

[thorn trout]

Teth invented capitalism

And taught the twins it

[sinful anvil]

shes not evil or anything she just doesnt want to get along with pleasantries or anything she perceives to b slacking off

[compact olive]

Ancient... old school. All about the natural course of life... reincarnation

Stagnation... the old way

[sacred rapids]

don't forget there's tsadi with heels to

[tender dune]

tsadi

[compact olive]

They stand in opposition to each other’s roles

[sinful anvil]

so u mean teth beating up daleth is a way of technology’s overpowering the old

[lethal stump]

all the elders with visible legs have heels

[thorn trout]

Tsadi, our boy

[compact olive]

She made the heels for Tsadi

[thorn trout]

@sinful anvil WHAT

[sinful anvil]

is teth flat heels

is teth close to stilettos or flat

[thorn trout]

Some people: Teth made heels and gave Tsadi some

Other people: Teth beat up Daleth

[sacred rapids]

he's got like a good foot on those heels

[sinful anvil]

so i take it teth doesnt wear flats

[sacred rapids]

based on my hight estimations

[thorn trout]

Teth is above your meager fashion choices

[compact olive]

To get a better examination of Teth’s type of heels/boots 👢 you’ll have to look up Daleth’s.....(censored)

[sinful anvil]

i think teth hates the king now

[thorn trout]

@compact olive Why are you so fricking cursed

[compact olive]

Cause she put boots to him I’m sure of it

[sacred rapids]

doesn't daleth have a full body robe?

[compact olive]

And a broken face

Okay okay okay... IF....She hurt him, she probably had good reason.

And maybe she didn’t hurt him

Maybe daleth fell on some stairs

He’s old. I could see that happening

[sacred rapids]

he tripped over the robe

[thorn trout]

Stares at Bricky
Or maybe he got banished.

[compact olive]

(Whispers) I can also see Teth telling him “now stick to the story old man. You got it?”

[tender dune]

i just realized we were talking about where we saw the purple light symbol in sky

i was looking for teth with heels pic and found this

[lethal stump]

why are you staring at me

[sacred rapids]

archives?

[thorn trout]

You know why you little angst lover

[tender dune]

Her forehead

[sacred rapids]

oh dang

[lethal stump]

ye, daleth has that too

[tender dune]

Not the diamond crown headpiece

Yeah a lot of them have it

[thorn trout]

Ooh

[sacred rapids]

that is a unflattering angle

[compact olive]

I want those gloves

[thorn trout]

What's up with her hair

[tender dune]

shh i was taking screenshots of my teth i cropped the pic

[sacred rapids]

it looks like a dad questioning what you just said

[lyric isle]

why is Crucified playing in my head looking at this

why

[compact olive]

Is it just me or does her face look exactly like a bluish version of the sky kid face?

[thorn trout]

Lore channel is supposed to be serious and then. Sometimes.
We just comment on Teth's unflatteringly angled photo

(jk Ginko)

[tender dune]

Is it just me or does her face look exactly like a bluish version of the sky kid face?
which one?

[compact olive]

Original/canon moth face

[compact olive]

Line indent through the eyes and everything

(O_O).... we are the 7th elder

[tender dune]

funny thing is when u wear some diff stuff that forehead thing is still there but hidden

[hushed steeple]

has anyone considered that the megabird may not be a deity, but rather an idea or concept?

[sacred rapids]

(O_O).... we are the 7th elder
we have 7 elders already Oz

remember valley is 2 elders

[compact olive]

(O_O).... we are the 7th elder(or 8th if you count both twins separately)

[tender dune]

Look at the forehead difference

[compact olive]

We share Teth’s face

[tender dune]

Sorry for the spam

[thorn trout]

We are Teth

[sacred rapids]

so now we have to have a competition to see who is the true last elder

[thorn trout]

Okay I'm not helping us stay on track

[tender dune]

note that chibi has like a big outline on the forehead

[keen osprey]

LMAOO

[compact olive]

Stamp of approval kid tested Megan approved

[sacred rapids]

oh no

[thorn trout]

Hell I have a LOT of homework to do. Ping me if y'all need anything and let's try to not get booted out of the channel for not being on-topic XD

[compact olive]

Oh no...

[hushed steeple]

RTD #3 (Random Thought of the Day) - the megabird is an ancient creature of light, the last of its kind, it leaves an message for the cloud messenger

[compact olive]

Had terrible theory idea

[tender dune]

ill just bring this again and remention the purple light. anyone know if all the elders have diamonds on their forehead like teth?

[hushed steeple]

i should probably present my theory after the current discussion

[frail hearth]

they all have, except valley

[tender dune]

"The spirit prays for Purple light. It is said they hoard ancient secrets. "

[frail hearth]

why is my english so broken

[compact olive]

Skykid = moth 🦋
Drawn to the light... 💡
What if Teth/king built Eden diamond ♦️
.......to trap the other children of the light?......
Oh no....that’s dark....

[tender dune]

in the pic i send of the shrines only forest and valley dont have. but what about the real bodies in the cutscenes?

[sacred rapids]

they all have, except valley
well duh they're competing over who gets it

[compact olive]

King = moth trapper... for unlimited power source...

[sacred rapids]

I don't think alef would let that happen

[frail hearth]

i have the all elders pic as tablet background so it's easier for me to check lmao

and yeah the in-game models are like the shrines

[tender dune]

u sure koma?? i remember being some difference in the shrines iirc

like between the shrines and the elders

[lethal stump]

teth shrine doesn’t have a forehead diamond

[frail hearth]

here

[tender dune]

do we know which elders have forehead diamond?

[compact olive]

What if Teth doesn’t have diamond on statue to signify she wasn’t under control of the darkness, like a lord of the rings Sauron, she built the one ring to bind them all

[lethal stump]

all but lamed and twins

[tender dune]

not the headpieces

[compact olive]

And the kids don’t have It tins because they are innocent

[tender dune]

the forehead

[frail hearth]

oh that

[hushed steeple]

the ancestors saw what the king was doing and decided to die an unnatural death to stop feeding into the rebirth cycle and thus fueling the power source, and now the narrator, probably related to the king, deceives and manipulate us into thinking the fragments of the stars are scattered throughout the kingdom, and we must journey through eden to return our ancestors to the celestial plane. The sinister motive is never reveal, a puppet to continue fuel the power source, the eden diamond

that is really dark

[lethal stump]

[frail hearth]

woah

[lyric isle]

ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[tender dune]

This

[frail hearth]

i don't have any constellation completed so i can't check

[hushed steeple]

krills were constructed to punish the ancestors that would not obey the king's orders and continue the rebirth cycle, to make their spirits suffer eternally in darkness

woah, my crackpot theory got more recognition than my actual researched theories

[compact olive]

Crack pot for the crack head...canon...ers....

Okay but I like this diamond on forehead situation

And I like the mystery of the dark plot by Lambda

[sinful anvil]

ya i just began to think what if this whole thing is a ruse to get skykids to be the living fuel for eden diamond

[compact olive]

But how do they coincide together?

[hushed steeple]

i only have isle completed but the mask covers the forehead

[compact olive]

(I had an old headcanon theory that Megan is just using us like a food source)

(This coincided with Bricky’s [and others ] ideas about the luceferian king plot)

[queen owl]

... isn't the diamond also what you get when you get 2 dots on one dot on cape?

[compact olive]

The king is the hero of the story because he fights against the natural order of things which just sees us recycled as soul food (not the southern literal term) for Megan

Megan the world eater

Nom nom nom nom

[hushed steeple]

lovecraftian horror

[compact olive]

Megan propaganda

[tender dune]

i think the forehead stamp on them might mean that they had the knowledge as " It is said they hoard ancient secrets ". and from that old dark stone concept its written that it grants the ancestors technology and power but is also the source of their corruption. which to me makes sense that its related.
i added bold on they because the original line is "The spirit prays for Purple light. It is said they hoard ancient secrets. ". who are they if not the elders and their knowledge ??

[hushed steeple]

wait wait

what if the megabird is the diamond in the centre (the eye), and it shows all of the light feeding into it?

what if the rebirth cycle is deliberate made to keep light creatures perpetual sources of light, feeding into the megabird

in turn the megabird grants her servants a gift(a curse) of eternal reincarnations, and longevity

the high elders worshipped the darkness in order to escape the cyclic continuum, in doing so, they lost most of their power given to them by the megabird, they descend upon the clouds as physical form, but most importantly they retained knowledge, because the megabird as powerful as her is could not rival against time itself

[compact olive]

That’s my theory lambda, that Megan set it all up to keep feeding

[lethal stump]

megabird is the real villain of sky

[hushed steeple]

Maybe she eats to give birth!

Idk what I just said-

the powers of the ancient deity is fading, but one last continuum sustain her power. this is represented by the large darkness gaps that separate the continuum of the light spectrum, there are six large gaps, hence the six high elders, but where is the last elder? what if it is us?

[compact olive]

Like.. poop 💩 ? Sani ?

[hushed steeple]

LOL

[compact olive]

We sky kids are her poop? Or like organic babies ?

[hushed steeple]

with this in mind,read the intro again, and let it sink in

"if only they had listened"

"our light was infinite"

"bring our lost stars home"

[compact olive]

Home = tummy tum

[hushed steeple]

this is some next level depth

Megan sure is hungry

[compact olive]

World eater Megan

Look at this diagram... she has souls of light coming from all over the galaxy

🌌

[lethal stump]

but why does megan have this endless appetite in the first place

[hushed steeple]

Cause she big

[compact olive]

She’s like a black hole ?

(O_O) ....... Megan is a light and darkness Oreo cookie !!

[hushed steeple]

Let's say she does "eat" us, what happens then? Do we become apart of her? Do we transfer idk??

[compact olive]

Maybe she is duality!!

Maybe what we think is Megan is just the trap door, made to look appealing and pretty... maybe she’s really everything else we don’t see... (because we and mantas make up the bird.... maybe she’s the dark matter than pulls us towards her)

[lethal stump]

she’s not only the shiny outline we see, but also the darkness around her

[hushed steeple]

"Dark matter is composed of particles that do not absorb, reflect, or emit light, so they cannot be detected by observing electromagnetic radiation. Dark matter is material that cannot be seen directly. ... Scientists believe that dark matter may account for the unexplained motions of stars within galaxies."

[lethal stump]

[hushed steeple]

Coincidence?? I think not!!!

[compact olive]

You cannot have light without darkness....

An “ecology of light and dark”

[hushed steeple]

Yin and yang

[compact olive]

https://tenor.com/view/keyser-söze-mug-drop-usual-suspects-gif-14178935

[weary galleon]

IMMA JUST DROP THIS HERE, I HAD THE IDEA OF PREGNANT DARK PLANTS WHO JUST CAPTURE A MOTH AND CHANGE IT INTO A CHILD OF LIGHTS- NOW ADIOS I WANTED TO PARTAKE MY CURSED-

[lethal stump]

[weary galleon]

Oop-

[hushed steeple]

[weary galleon]

Sbfusbudv- I just had to, I had that idea for a Sky fanfiction uwu

[compact olive]

Why the caps?

[weary galleon]

Wow, I took physical attack on that

Oh Because i was excited to tell uwu

[lethal stump]

im gonna be honest i don’t understand what you were trying to say

[hushed steeple]

what

[compact olive]

Okay, but try to leave the caps out this time. Can you re-tell us the theory or idea a bit more clearly?

[weary galleon]

Oh yeah sure

I had this idea today, rewriting my fanfiction, about dark plants who grow inside of skykids like a infection (thanks Lore discussion for that idea-), but that when it consume all of the moth, it changes them of light to dark, since it’s dark plant-

Does it even have something to do with lore discussion anyway ??

[lethal stump]

oh that was a lot less disturbing than i read it to be

[weary galleon]

[lethal stump]

i saw « pregnant » and « moth » in the same sentence and almost screamed

[weary galleon]

DBSJVDEUV-

You almost made me scream too-

[hushed steeple]

Lol same

[sinful anvil]

tmw everyone says megabird looks like a phoenix and u wonder why not realizing ur looking at it in the wrong way

[humble epoch]

On one of the concept art from above about the elders, the forest elder used to have a mask, and a similar one can be found above the the forest temple gates.

[sinful anvil]

a note: why is alef the big star here

[weary galleon]

Alef ?

Is the the Dawn Elder’s name ?

[sinful anvil]

no alef is the prince, daleth is the isle elder

[weary galleon]

:0 I didn’t knew they had names-

[hushed steeple]

cue bricky's chart

So that looks like the isle elder fell first

What chart?

of elder names

Oh!

[sinful anvil]

my question is why is alef here as a star

[hushed steeple]

alef didnt fall yet

Isle: Daleth (ד)
Prairie: Ayin (ע)
Forest: Teth (ט)
Valley: Samekh (ס)
Wasteland: Tsadi (צ)
Vault: Lamed (ל)
Prince: Alef (א)
King: Resh (ר)
PLEASE NOTE: These names have appeared in concept art and are often used when referring to the elders. They are no longer canon, they are fanon.

maybe

[weary galleon]

:0

[lethal stump]

have you read the lore moff doc, Astrid ?

[weary galleon]

👁👄👁

Procrastination is getting me hard-

[lethal stump]

is that a yes ? no ?

[weary galleon]

I didn’t but I have a link to it so I can read it anytime

[compact olive]

Im going with no

[lethal stump]

it’s two pages, barely like 1000 words

[weary galleon]

Oh

Oh okay it’s a quick read then

[lethal stump]

yeah
it’s an intro doc, i wouldn’t write a novel for newbies

[weary galleon]

Yeah I understand why

It’s all new informations but it’s really interesting tho

[compact olive]

What if the Eden diamond ♦️ was a good intentioned device, like a stone that would pull boats 🚣‍♀️ towards it faster so spirits could ascend to Megabird faster and have a nice Disney land ride like trip to Eden.... but something just went horribly wrong and when they turned it on every boat 🚣‍♀️ in the vicinity was thrown off course and some just smashed into the Eden castle exploding it like it is now...

In this crackpot theory the king has a commercial “do you want to reincarnate? Well come on doooooowwwwn!”

It would be terrible if they had good intentions but faulty intelligence was the cause of the destruction.

But then that would make the war at GW useless so scratch the whole idea.

[lethal stump]

hey @compact olive , i know this is really late, but here’s a screenshot of spirits being called « lost lights »

tap your character to call lost lights

[sinful anvil]

to call the ... lost light??

[lethal stump]

yep, spirits are called lost lights
which does me a Confuse

[compact olive]

Better late than never... still looking for Jenova Chen saying we follow/connect with one ☝️ Star child to Eden.

Wait... that’s Le Franće !!!

[lethal stump]

yes, my sky is in french

[compact olive]

mais je ne peux pas lire le france!!

[lethal stump]

« but i cant read france »
also, that’s why i included a translation

[livid valley]

Wut

[sinful anvil]

hehe

[lethal stump]

i also included a translation to not get beaned, considering this is an english-only server

[compact olive]

Is that the thingie that pops up when you get near sanctuary spirit?

[lethal stump]

no, i wasnt in sanc at the time

it was butterfly charmer spirit

[hushed steeple]

hmmm

[lethal stump]

but my point is
this is the main thing that makes me doubt the « ancestors are stars » claim, considering they’re called lost lights
this also basically confirms they’re not the « lost stars » we’re trying to bring home

[hushed steeple]

which translations are done in-house?

[lethal stump]

japanese and chinese

[hushed steeple]

last patch, they were still updating translations so i dont know

alright

time to switch my locales

[lethal stump]

why do you ask ?

[hushed steeple]

because i want to see if anything is different

[compact olive]

I get nothing. The game hates me

[lethal stump]

it’s based on distance from the spirit
i was across the map when the prompt showed

[hushed steeple]

ok basically the translation of laughing lightcatcher is laughing light farmer, i hope i did it right, can you confirm pale child?

@/Clary#3359

this confirms your agriculture theory bricky

[vivid bluff]

Lmao I know y’all noticed or something but I haven’t but the prophecy symbol necklace and the symbol on the accessories are the same right?

[lethal stump]

accessories ? like, cosmetics ? sounds like beta content

[vivid bluff]

No no !

I mean the accessory place closet thing symbol at home

[vivid bluff]

and the necklace that’s available which isn’t beta content

These

[sinful anvil]

ok basically the translation of laughing lightcatcher is laughing light farmer, i hope i did it right, can you confirm pale child?
lambdaw#8201 ive never realized 光农 could mean light farmer. ur kinda right
but i thought farming only describes a process of harvesting things, so light catching could be a form of farming

maybe English is more specific

[hushed steeple]

you know what is even more strange, ushering migrant is translated as ushering farmer (as in reference to one who practice pastoralism rather than alluding to agriculture)

[lethal stump]

farming refers to sowing seeds, preparing land, looking after animals, and harvesting

[compact olive]

A farmer is for harvesting but generally it is for grown or processed goods, where as catching is more suited for insect farming as you aren’t raising the creature from birth

[vivid bluff]

I mean they sorta do farm light by harvesting light from birds

Which is shown on the spirit’s relived thing

[compact olive]

But that implies you’re raising the livestock

Like a dairy farmer

[vivid bluff]

ahh haha I see

[lethal stump]

english is both pointlessly specific and not specific enough

[hushed steeple]

actually probably translate better to ushering nomad than farmer, farmer is so ambiguous

[compact olive]

That is soooo true

Ancestor spirit 1: “But how do we milk the manta?”
Ancestor spirit 2: “What?!”

[lethal stump]

Teth: we don’t milk. We grind.
Both ancestors:

[hushed steeple]

what livestocks are in isle?

[compact olive]

Butterfly

And I think they added bird’s recently but I could be spacing out

[vivid bluff]

so we will definitely be calling the light we absorb light milk now🥛

[compact olive]

“Got Light?”

[sly kestrel]

“Farming” isn’t restricted to plants and crop farming only
The term can be used for other things as well

[sly helm]

That would make a good Sky shirt.

[sly kestrel]

In this case, the praire spirits are not farmers of livestock and agriculture

[sly helm]

We farm candles frequently in Sky.

[sly kestrel]

That too

[lethal stump]

although it was mentioned in the skyshop poems that prairie was a, agricultural zone

[sly kestrel]

So praire is one big farm or plants and crops in ur eyes?
Although harvesting, farming, and agriculture is present in praire
No one said it was specifically like plants and stuff, in the sky world I thought it clear that it was light they were farming and harvesting in praire

[lethal stump]

i think there used to be farms and such there
but it was overgrown

since, well, it’s been a while

[compact olive]

Bird’s in isle

[sly kestrel]

Yeah

Bird go flap

[hushed steeple]

i think there were once mantas in isle

but they migrated, and so did the people of isle

the three spirits were the last to remain, they stayed to usher new travellers and they were reminiscent of the forgotten land

[compact olive]

This just feels less like farming and more like catching

Calling a creature with a bell and waiting for it to come in your island hole and then keeping it inside of a stone encasing to draw out its light?

Ancestors were savage.... meant in the literal and urban slang term

[gilded fossil]

/ guys i just relived the laughing light dud few days back

/it doesnt loook like farming but they wear catching light with the staff and putting them into jars

/but it doesnt loook like birds?? loooks like there used to be light just lying around all the time

[hushed steeple]

Yeah, I had a theory that they harvested light from the creatures.

Cause the creatures do recharge your wings, so where else would they get the light to store in the jars..to ship to forest, make diamonds, and use those diamonds to further their technology... made me think

There could be other sources, such as fire, but we hardly see fire used unless its for opening doors and lighting murals. But idk

[gilded fossil]

/oil?

[hushed steeple]

Oh yeah there's oil at wl

[gilded fossil]

/i remember a theory with oil be present

[hushed steeple]

Whats the theory?

[gilded fossil]

/orange light loooks like it's trying to represent oil

[hushed steeple]

Got any links? Or other info?

[gilded fossil]

#lore-discussion-spoilers message

[hushed steeple]

Ah

Ty!

[gilded fossil]

/sorry it took too long, also, the chat's bit quite huh

[hushed steeple]

Nah you're good

And ye it got quiet lol

[gilded fossil]

/hey i want to edit theory doc, i want to add crackpot theories, where do i put it

[lethal stump]

what’s the subject matter ?

[gilded fossil]

/ just some gatorade crackpot

[lethal stump]

so, its about skids ?

[gilded fossil]

/ yea it's about skids being gatorade

[lethal stump]

then put it under « Skychildren »

[hushed steeple]

what is the link for theory doc?

[lethal stump]

it’s in the pins

[hushed steeple]

oh it got revamped, last time i checked there weren't categories

[lethal stump]

well, there were, but it was poorly shown/organized

@gilded fossil I hope you know that submitting your theory in this manner will lead to it being denied. There’s a template at the top of the document if you wish to properly submit your theory

[vital glade]

This is a dumb, but what if krill think the wl in wasteland is theirs and they’re just trying to bonk it out of you

[opal briar]

Random but any evidence that sky and journey share a time line?

[lethal stump]

sky and journey are separate stories and separate universes

mostly due to copyright reasons i think

[opal briar]

Thank you

Got ya

[outer lark]

About sky and journey. In Vault, behind the 2 pl. Door, on the big cubes, there are journey symbols on them. Do we know what's going on with that? Or is it just an easter egg?

[lethal stump]

they’re something else entirely i believe

[outer lark]

They look very similar and seem to follow same pattern/system, but now you say it, only a few are identical🤔

[steady token]

If mega bird is the creator then maybe journey and sky are just two things they created

[green tartan]

Only asking what is this over the diamond thing-

[opal briar]

The end of orbit?

[green tartan]

Idk but it looked like an eclipse or some sort

[opal briar]

Oh I was looking at the very top

[green tartan]

O h

Well that could be in orbit

But the eclipse that keeps bugging me

NEED CLUE

[bitter shale]

I think it is eclipse

[green tartan]

[bitter shale]

Also i didnt know that i can actually insert my theory in theory doc lmao-

Like, man, i should at least write something in there, maybe later

[hushed steeple]

I wonder how interconnected the stories of Journey and Sky are
Quoting this to get some conversation started

I posted it when a different conversation was taking place

[bitter shale]

From what i recall, Sky is spiritual successor of Journey

So its either they have connected storyline or not, we can only guessing

Altho my thory is Journey taken place not too long after the sky kingdom fall, while sky taking at least thousend years after it fall

Or maybe, journey taken before the sky kingdom even build

mostly due to copyright reasons i think
Due to copyright reason? I mean... arent they share the same game company-?

[bitter hemlock]

what is Journey about

[solar relic]

sky is journey's spiritual successor in that sky has similar elements of design and game mechanics. but they aren't related lore-wise, though both their plots follow the 'hero's journey' template

[edgy sequoia]

Due to copyright reason? I mean... arent they share the same game company-?
@bitter shale Journey belongs to Sony now

[bitter shale]

oooh, sony. of course-

[edgy sequoia]

yes

[ionic cave]

Capes have no shadow 😱

Make theory pls

[edgy sequoia]

tgc has problems with the cape shadowing

so they have to unshadow the capes

[ionic cave]

so they have to unshadow the capes
@edgy sequoia ohh, that ended quickly 😶

[bitter shale]

Its either game mechanics or game lore, pick one

[jovial nacelle]

Game lore

[livid valley]

i pick lore

so yk that you need to get winged light to have a cape so i was thinking that the cape was made of light which dosent cast a shadow obv

[solar relic]

though it is technical limitations i agree that capes could be made out of light too

[edgy sequoia]

it is

technical limitations

[solar relic]

yes it is

[thorn spade]

i pick lore

so yk that you need to get winged light to have a cape so i was thinking that the cape was made of light which dosent cast a shadow obv
@livid valley i think so too

[odd dew]

Hiya!! what is the topic of discussion right now? hahaha

[solar relic]

lore chat is asneep

[solar relic]

just going to somewhat revive it for a while
https://docs.google.com/document/d/19p_7mI1bI4fxKBk5ogVJCTsU7hzLJejqBgQTSJDAjuo/edit
i finally got a doc to put my leitmotif notes in but it's still messy i'll probably add in the ost tracks and timestamps for each leitmotif so that my notes make more sense

[crystal dagger]

ok so I wanna talk about. How memories or spirits are made. Do they fade? Do they just come out of thin air? how did these spirits turn to stone WHEN THEY ARE LITERALLY. G A S

Are elders the first human like creatures to exist??? did the elders made these spirits???? are they from.. ANOTHER DIMENSION??? HOW ARE KRILLS OR MANTAS MADE??? WERE THERE A WAR BETWEEN THEM??????

[odd dew]

I thought before that the spirits are kinda preserved like the citizens of pompeii were preserved

talked**

but instead of ash, it's darkness

[crystal dagger]

what the hell is a pompeii

[odd dew]

do you not know your history?

[crystal dagger]

maybe

[odd dew]

do a quick google and then come back

[topaz girder]

pompeii was a city near a volcano and the volcano goes kaboom and it preserved all the people i think

[odd dew]

yes that

[crystal dagger]

are spirits from humans

did the spirits as humans built them

the uhh

[odd dew]

I thought before that eden looked like a volcano

[crystal dagger]

realms

[topaz girder]

what

[odd dew]

it's been confirmed in the cutscene that the spirits are stars

[topaz girder]

i heard one time that prairie could've been a volcano

[odd dew]

so no

not humans

[crystal dagger]

who even made eden???? did the elders do it so the kids can die and get reborn?? MILLLION TIMES????

[odd dew]

cause they don't exist in this world

eden is part of the kingdom

...

[topaz girder]

they made the stuff inside eden but megabird made orbit ,,

[crystal dagger]

who made the kingdoms

[odd dew]

did you read the file? or watched the cutscene?

[crystal dagger]

is it elders or spirits

I dont even

know

[odd dew]

well who do you think was the residence of the world before skids?

the spirits did

[crystal dagger]

stars.

[odd dew]

yes

did you had the chance to read the file?

[crystal dagger]

what are the elders from anyway

[odd dew]

stars

actually no that's a mystery

yes

[crystal dagger]

so like

[odd dew]

may I ask once more if you have read the canon file?

[crystal dagger]

what canon file

[solar relic]

yeah have you read the canon doc?

[crystal dagger]

[odd dew]

it should give the basic info

[solar relic]

i think some of your questions can be answered there

[odd dew]

it's in the pins

[solar relic]

ah. are you new to lore chat?

Hello new Lore Moff!
Read this short document to get started! Once you’ve read this, check out pins for more information.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit
[credits to bricko]

[topaz girder]

lore moff moment

[solar relic]

just read this, then check the pins, the canon lore doc will be there

[crystal dagger]

yeah

👉👈

[odd dew]

yep

it's important to know which of the lore is already decided upon or established

[livid valley]

Bricko

[odd dew]

that way you can settle in

Bricko is the person with the marshmallow profile pic yes?

I haven't met the veterans yet XD

[solar relic]

i made a typo and since then i've stuck to calling him yet

veterans?

[odd dew]

veterans of the lore channel haha

those who has been around since the season of belonging

or since the beta days

before it went to live

hahaha

they're the ones with the most established lore and created the canon doc

there's a list of them in the file hehehe

[solar relic]

oh? which file?

[odd dew]

the canon doc

at the end

their names are there

[solar relic]

ah hage and jay? i consider them lore vets yes, but i don't think there's a set definition of a lore vet (or a vet in general lol)

[odd dew]

hahaha I call them vets isnce they have been on this lore channel since the begining ahhhaha

((i don't know how to spell whaaaat??))

[solar relic]

i see anyway back to actual lore lol

[odd dew]

hahaha

anyways

what was the topic before?

something about what skids are made of?

I thought of them as just a battery pack and containers to save the children of light (stars)

cause of the wax doll features they have XD

cause we look like mannequins without the masks hahaha

((or we're made from dead children ;_;))

h a h a h a

(( re-animated corpses of the children that died from the cataclysmic event from eden))

((but now we're immortal hahahhaha ))

[solar relic]

commonly believed that they are made of clay since clay was used to make some of the sound effects skids produce
there is a doll-mannequin-like vibe to them seeing how skids seem to be simply vessels to carry light
(children of light are not really stars btw, the stars are more referring to the elders in the intro, wl/imprints of col would be better names to avoid confusion)

[odd dew]

that's my thoughts as well

containers or batteries made to save the ACTUAL children of lights

we use the energies from the children to power the various contraptions, as well as to fly

[odd dew]

oof chat sneeping again haha

just as I have time away from school work hahhahaha

[solar relic]

ah sorry just got home

yeah, that is possible. saving the generation of skids before us

[odd dew]

issokay hahha I think I need to get back to work hahaha

[thin dirge]

This topic reminded me of that theory I had that we were Prince 2.0, but were born from the Prince's original dead corspe physical form before they fell-

[kind bobcat]

there is no lore vet

only scholars

and ancient scholars

[static spoke]

And Bricky

[kindred oar]

Could you tell me what scholars do in general? Are they like the counselor for the king or?

[solar relic]

for the vault scholars i think they were just,, arhciving info/knowledge

but

they seemed pretty important bc there's a bunch of big statues of a scholar around in eden

[kindred oar]

Ohh so they are people with high knowledge and intelligence then?

[boreal nebula]

IF those are scholars.. after all there are also big statues in Valley Of Triumph (with those giant weird hat)

I wouldN'T be surprised if the put many concept for many class of ancestors

And some are just souvenirs of abandoned concepts

[kindred oar]

Is it possible if maybe they sacrifice themselves for the king or sumn? I mean they wouldn't have statues if they don't do something significant

Or maybe they are the one who knows about the diamond first?

[boreal nebula]

SIDE NOTE: First time I realized this can look similar to mantas tail

[bitter shale]

Oooh

[boreal nebula]

I'm even more thinking that diamon shape with the 2 sidelines is a way of symbolize a heart/soul

As if those 2 lines were the physical frames/hands around our soul

🤚 ♦️ ✋

The souls we have collected

And I have a less materialistic idea about the artificial diamonds

[opaque palm]

My topic, probs irrelevant but: What if spirits use the wax/candles and hearts to make more cosmetics?

Cause there are so many sky kids, they'd need materials to make those cosmetics.

[spring blaze]

whats hearts even made out of

[opaque palm]

no clue but im thinking it might be made out of wax

you light a constellation, it sends a small part of heart

You send a full heart letter, you use up 3 candle

[queen owl]

Maybe it's like... more purified or something? Hence why a heart costs 3 candles. Like the transfer process melts it down and back together.

Also entire unrelated but I'll forget soon: the mentions of how the stuff in the vault was supposed to be stored forever but bits are getting lost really, really reminds me of data stored in hard drives. Which degrade over time.

Also paper does, but it's obvious from the outside when paper records need copying to save them.

Not really sure there's anywhere to go with that beyond crack, but was a thought.

[gilded fossil]

/are memories = light?

/did the scholars thought they can store memory-like light in the stone diamond thing?

[bitter shale]

i mean, look at vault. that place is filled with projector stones

i think they did suceeded in making memory storage

[short owl]

Not sure how this influences things, but harddrives can store things indefinitely as long as they are regularly maintained. The power to do so relies on the fact that data can be perfectly copied from drive to drive without possibility of undetected data loss. Set it up right and the loss of a drive is not the loss of data, just the loss of a drive. Swap in a new one and you are back to your previous state.

Memory storage does not appear to be able to support this feature

[bitter shale]

My question is, how did they manage to extract those memories?

Like, hard drive store datas from computer. What about memories?

I imagine memory stone did storage those memories but unlike hard drives they are more fragile?

[short owl]

Hmm... Memory can either be stored in body or soul.

[bitter shale]

is that mean they extract those memories from-

[short owl]

So the memory stones must simulate something similar

[bitter shale]

🧠

[short owl]

We can relive memories from spirits without stealing them, so maybe memory stones are similar?

[topaz girder]

[short owl]

Buuuuut from what I see, memories aren't perfect. It would not surprise me if duplicating memories was a lossy process

[bitter shale]

Sky is secretly sci-fi???

i mean, we do have space station sooooooo

But its not counted as canon-

Lmao

Yea

We do have a canon in the game-

[gilded fossil]

/ we also have a yeet machine

[bitter shale]

What is it then? Fanon?

We didnt have a fan-

[solar relic]

looks like the hair of the festive spin dancer

[frail hearth]

i was thinking that too lol

[bitter shale]

Have a rest, boop

[solar relic]

take care boop!! we're here if you need us

[frail hearth]

bro y'all are too nice ahsgddn

[bitter shale]

Arent we all

[hushed steeple]

Is this a visual bug or why are those birds black?

[lethal stump]

bug

[frail hearth]

a bug

[lethal stump]

it’s in known issues