Limbo*
#lore-discussion-spoilers
dense dawn
rapid pollen
death isnt permanent then
fluid patrol
Its more like you're reborn
thin dirge
You can't prove they CAN die, as in permanent-
gilded fossil
/hmm okay
rapid pollen
important things to the world of sky are left imprinted, like spirit memories
maybe if you didnt leave an imprint, you died permanently
thin dirge
And WL/Shiny Bois, which are often called "Imprints of the Child of Light"
gilded fossil
/ is bluestone new btw
rapid pollen
anyone think that spirits were never alive. they are created as spirits. since they go about normal life: e.g. travelling spirits selling freaking spells
dense dawn
So if what we're experiencing are the memories of spirits, did they die?
gilded fossil
/ what's the deffinition of imprints
rapid pollen
So if what we're experiencing are the memories of spirits, did they die?
@dense dawn they all did
but their souls stay
thin dirge
Cause they spirits
rapid pollen
becaus ethey imprinted the world
gilded fossil
e.g. travelling spirits selling freaking spells
/over price
thin dirge
Pretty much souls
dense dawn
So if they died, why? And where did they go? To orbit?
rapid pollen
in the help section of ancestor spirits
its says ancestors are OUR ancestors
whihc means
we are evolved spirits
gilded fossil
/eh??? pic tho?
rapid pollen
or whatever they were before deth
kind bobcat
An evolved form? Probably not, but it's likely we're sort of a new-generation form of ancestors
thin dirge
Maybe
kind bobcat
Ancestors 3 : electric boogalo 2
gilded fossil
/ skids are pokemon
thin dirge
Skids are meant to be a new generation, based from what the devs said, soooo...
rapid pollen
gilded fossil
/ also "each kingdom???"
thin dirge
I think that means realms
rapid pollen
the realms are kingdoms
thin dirge
Not a seperate Kingdom like Sky
rapid pollen
yall keep talking about canon from glyphs and devs
u forgot about help section canon
Realms are the kingdoms of the elders
the elders rule them
thin dirge
Yeah
rapid pollen
the ancestors were the founders though
gilded fossil
/ well what would that make king then
thin dirge
But they are also conjoined to create one mega Kingdom; Sky
dense dawn
/ well what would that make king then
@gilded fossil bad boi
rapid pollen
/ well what would that make king then
@gilded fossil ya know in th us the states have governors?
gilded fossil
/would that mean that king is just another outsider?
gilded fossil
/aaaah
hushed steeple
each kingdom
gilded fossil
/gatoroid
rapid pollen
and then king got dark
thin dirge
The mention of this... Makes me think that maybe the Prince was meant to be a new generation of the Elders, while we're meant to be a new generation to the Ancestors?
rapid pollen
guys ever think since Teth is obviously the builder of the elders
dense dawn
Well why is prarie and valley peaceful then?
hushed steeple
but the google play/appstore description states one desolate kingdom
dense dawn
Prairie*
gilded fossil
/argh confussing!!!
rapid pollen
but the google play/appstore description states one desolate kingdom
@hushed steeple trust the game more than the seller
hushed steeple
but they are the seller
kind bobcat
And they made it
gilded fossil
/well, we're not sure if devs wrote the help section
thin dirge
Yeah, the desolate Kingdom is Sky. The realms/"kingdoms" are more like states-
Ooh, Jen has a point
rapid pollen
/well, we're not sure if devs wrote the help section
@gilded fossil who else would've lol
gilded fossil
/maybe they got someone else writing it
hushed steeple
might be just PR
rapid pollen
the help section in the game
thin dirge
The mention of this... Makes me think that maybe the Prince was meant to be a new generation of the Elders, while we're meant to be a new generation to the Ancestors?
rapid pollen
go to any constellation
and go to
the help button in top corner
tells ya how to play the game but also has
the our ancestors part
maybe the reason we are able to relive ancestor spirits memories is because we are related to them
gilded fossil
/see, the text in ggplay seems to be handled bu the pr team, not devs, it is likely that the help section was too
rapid pollen
its a family trait
kind bobcat
As far as i know, the UI is part of the game mechanics section.
rapid pollen
/see, the text in ggplay seems to be handled bu the pr team, not devs, it is likely that the help section was too
@gilded fossil WELL AT LEAST I CONTRIBUTED SOMETHING
gilded fossil
/ oooh i like that theory
kind bobcat
Yes, they were our ancestors, but not by blood maybe.
gilded fossil
/ chill pedro i mean no harm sorry
rapid pollen
sorry 😦
gilded fossil
Yes, they were our ancestors, but not by blood maybe.
/by clay
kind bobcat
The correct word for it is "predecessor"
thin dirge
Goober has a point too
gilded fossil
/pont
thin dirge
Please stop poking at me with my spelling mistakes-
rapid pollen
maybe the Ancestor spirits trained the elders to take their place as leader of each kingdom/realm, and then retird to their respective areas
thin dirge
I type fast
bitter shale
My guess is, the ancestors did create us, but not in organic way
Uhhh
Sorta like build us?
rapid pollen
cave of prophecies, sanctuary, ark etc.
kind bobcat
...The elders are literal gods Pedro
kind bobcat
Yes, but they're ancestors
rapid pollen
i saw a timeline here
kind bobcat
mortals
gilded fossil
/nah megan tho
kind bobcat
My timeline isn't canon.
thin dirge
What timeline? Concept timeline? Not canon
bitter shale
They are the faleln stars
But i get your point. The ancestors might be the one who teach the elder how to live on earth etc
gilded fossil
/ shoulda made it flashy with rainbows
kind bobcat
you're welcome.
kind bobcat
They do sound mechanical, probably because of their carapaces
thin dirge
Ooh, people theorized that here too
rapid pollen
power diamonds are literally generators
thin dirge
That they were machines
kind bobcat
When reika barraged us with cursed krills we can see their underbelly is actually smooth
rapid pollen
lemme finish omg
gilded fossil
/ goob no
rapid pollen
krills could've been shells created by mortals or elders
then a power diamond put in the eye area
brought them to life
kind bobcat
It would help for you to type in your theory all in one message so it wont get split to pieces 
thin dirge
Yeah
rapid pollen
either they became sentient or are being controlled by someone dark
there done
also in the canon lore doc it says crab walkcycles are important
whos gonna ovlunterr for krebb watching duty
volunteer
gilded fossil
/ pedro, also have you seen the googly krill?
gilded fossil
/ goober may us have the googly eyes krill
kind bobcat
thin dirge
But this is TGC tho. Story was vague, even for Journey
rapid pollen
ok to clear things up lets think up some things we know are true
thin dirge
I dont play Journey, but that's what ppl told me
jade patio
that picture gives me nightmares
rapid pollen
say somethings that are supported by a lot of evidence
gilded fossil
/yep
rapid pollen
orbit constellation is fav friend constellation
kind bobcat
Journey's ost had a major part in its lore, we think it also might be the case for Sky. But at the moment we can't figure out the conlang yet.
rapid pollen
the king isnt dead
dense dawn
Yeah but at least journey had a clear mission; go to the top of the mountain
rapid pollen
but trapped indefinetly
thin dirge
Oh, I have the Prince related to Skid theory, and it has about 9 pieces of evidence-
gilded fossil
/well, technically, that's just butterfly's theory
dense dawn
Sky doesn't state what 'return the stars' actually is
kind bobcat
the king isnt dead
ehm got any proof?
gilded fossil
/no one never came and confirmed the fav friend constelation
rapid pollen
ehm got any proof?
@kind bobcat devs said hes not able to be saved not ded
kind bobcat
The idea of the king being imprisoned indefinetly falls into theory/headcanon lore
rapid pollen
how would literally most powerful being DIE
kind bobcat
He's not to be saved anymore, that could mean he's dead dead
rapid pollen
wait oop smegabird
solar relic
in the intro the stars are referred to as the elders so i guess it would mean our goal is to return the elders back to orbit 
gilded fossil
/well, that could mean ded too, pedro
thin dirge
Evidence that Sky kid is related to Prince
- Skid's constellation (Fave friend constellation) is the exact same as Prince/King's Eden Constellation
- All the Elders bow down to us in that same cutscene. (Maybe in Orbit too if you look at it in one way)
- King's Constellation is literally called "The Light". Prince/King is probably the Child of the Light. Which is a character we're connected to and have a relationship with-
- On our chest where the glowing dot is, there's a faded diamind symbol. The Elders' symbol
- "Sky kids and Elders are not the same or different species"
- Prince looks like an skid. Always does in Concept art.
- We resemble the Prince in murals from intro
- GW Elder treats us like riyalty in old Beta cutscene
- Concept art Prince has intricate designs that may resemble old Beta capes (which were only changed for technical reasons)
solar relic
yes im back hello
thin dirge
Here it is
gilded fossil
/none of the theories could have been true
rapid pollen
Evidence that Sky kid is related to Prince
- Skid's constellation (Fave friend constellation) is the exact same as Prince/King's Eden Constellation
- All the Elders bow down to us in that same cutscene. (Maybe in Orbit too if you look at it in one way)
- King's Constellation is literally called "The Light". Prince/King is probably the Child of the Light. Which is a character we're connected to and have a relationship with-
- On our chest where the glowing dot is, there's a faded diamind symbol. The Elders' symbol
- "Sky kids and Elders are not the same or different species"
- Prince looks like an skid. Always does in Concept art.
- We resemble the Prince in murals from intro
- GW Elder treats us like riyalty in old Beta cutscene
- Concept art Prince has intricate designs that may resemble old Beta capes (which were only changed for technical reasons)
@thin dirge number one eden's constellation isnt fav friend constellation
kind bobcat
It's the eden constellation.
solar relic
please don't quote long messages
kind bobcat
Maybe.
dense dawn
Does canon comfirm that there is actually a king and prince?
rapid pollen
Orbit is officially called the light
the fav friend constellation is called the light
solar relic
check the canon lore doc cast
kind bobcat
Does canon comfirm that there is actually a king and prince?
@dense dawn King? Yes.
Prince? No
rapid pollen
omg why is it so hard for you guys to understand
dense dawn
Then why does everyone assume there is a prince?
tender dune
rapid pollen
exactly
kind bobcat
I dunno pedro, could be you're the one who doesnt understand 
thin dirge
Pedro, this isn't meant to be some debate whether which is canon or not
rapid pollen
I dunno pedro, could be you're the one who doesnt understand
@kind bobcat what proof is there that eden has any connection to fav friend constellation
kind bobcat
emphasis on "kind of"
rapid pollen
fr gimme proof
dense dawn
Mabe the prince and the king are the same being but the prince is the king in a weakened state
kind bobcat
@rapid pollen vault murals.
gilded fossil
/yea
rapid pollen
@rapid pollen vault murals.
@kind bobcat pictures
thin dirge
The lore of Sky is made vague so that people could have their own interpretation, without it being right or wrong
rapid pollen
gimme pictures
gilded fossil
/pedro hold on imma fetch pics
kind bobcat
Hold on, lemme get them.
thin dirge
Lore chat is not for debate whether it is canon or not, its to share ideas about headcanons and theories
That's the purpose of lore chat
rapid pollen
omg wth
gilded fossil
/yes
gilded fossil
/i can say skids are made out of Gatorade and no one can stop me
upbeat reef
Wow I had no idea. It all makes sense now.
solar relic
upbeat reef
Looks like a crown.
rapid pollen
Whats ur point
rapid pollen
no
the crown is one level and has three points
eden is multiple and has a lot more points
clear difference
kind bobcat
The crown literally turned to a drawing of eden
thin dirge
Yeah
rapid pollen
h lol
short owl
Anyone else notice an odd mix of singular and plural in Reika's statement?
rapid pollen
i still think orbit's constellation is that one
kind bobcat
Then, it is, for you.
thin dirge
Why not both
kind bobcat
But personally, for me it's eden.
rapid pollen
my theory is that we can't see eden's constellation because of the fall of eden. i believe its stars were darkened
dense dawn
So do we get a story where eden gets rebuilt?
rapid pollen
aight brb nature calls
to think, i didnt even know sky had lore until the survey
asked if we understood the llore
tender dune
Yesn't
tender dune
its been made vague for us to know the story just as butterfly has been saying
we'll slowly find out
kind bobcat
We have to wait two years for a complete history book.
solar relic
we are free to theorise for now so nothing much is confirmed
therefore please do not take nor state theory as factual evidence and impose it on others 
tender dune
spicy apples will get beaned
short owl
... Wut
solar relic
term "spicy apples" is courtesy of krilltjn
short owl
Ah
kind bobcat
TL;DR : don't tpose on other theorists with your theories or you'll get beaned
upbeat reef
Do the sky kids we save in Eden go back to the stars or are those the new sky kids getting reborn with another chance at life?
solar relic
hm we don't know, but for me i think they go back up to the stars since they don't pass through the rebirth gate like us
tender dune
^im slow but what res said. it shows that in the cutscene
upbeat reef
Oh yeah. We eat their souls for candles.
Also how many of the ancestor spirits can you get from Eden? Is there one for each elder spirit? Or is it a different number cap?
lethal stump
there’s no ancestor spirits in eden
upbeat reef
We get them to strengthen our cape just before going back.
lethal stump
oh, you mean wing buffs ?
hushed steeple
that deosnt count as canon or lore
this is heavily confirmation biased, you can not just discredit information about the game without proof that it isn't an official source or not attributes to lore. everything is lore until proven otherwise not the other way around. are GDC talks and other interviews not official canon because they are not representative of in-game content, no they are representative of a timeframe of development which is canonical, from there we can infer shifts in lore given the basis.
upbeat reef
Yeah. They say "ancestor spirits strengthen your flight" or something right as you're returning. You get them right after collecting the Eye of Eden candles.
gilded fossil
everything is lore until proven otherwise not the other way around.
/gatoraaaaaaaaaade
lethal stump
i believe the current amount of wing buffs is dependent on the amount of current travelling spirits that have come and gone, plus the base game WBs
upbeat reef
Oh I see. Hm...
tender dune
/
gatoraaaaaaaaaade
teletubbies
upbeat reef
Whats the current cap? I'm only at 3 so far since I'm kind of new to the game.
lethal stump
this doesn’t sound lore related
if you want to look into wing buffs, maybe ask in #eden-spoilers ?
upbeat reef
I mean it kind of is. Just wanna see if it's compared to TS or elder spirits.
hushed steeple
/
gatoraaaaaaaaaade
well if the legal system was guilty until proven not guilty, there would be no considerable way to prove that one is truly innocent or simply constructed an illusion of innocence.
upbeat reef
Might be a non-lore mechanic though. I dunno.
lethal stump
Compared to ? what do you mean ?
Elders don’t give wing buffs, if that’s what you’re asking
upbeat reef
Okay so ancestor spirits = traveling spirits confirmed?
lethal stump
travelling spirits are ancestor spirits
solar relic
o are you relating this to why we only have 7 cheese wedges (iirc) in eden?
lethal stump
travelling spirits aren’t their own « type » of spirit
they’re just ancestor spirits from old seasons
gilded fossil
/oh also wired have you seen moff doc???
upbeat reef
Does that mean our character is carrying the traveling spirits and they don't want to go back to the stars?
gilded fossil
/ ~~ah hah the moff doc lord has gone 
~~
Does that mean our character is carrying the traveling spirits and they don't want to go back to the stars?
/wait wdym
tender dune
we still see the traveling spirits we ascended in orbit flying
spring blaze
base ancestor spirits are sent to the sky after you meditate at the temple. seasonal and ts goes up right after you relieve their memories
gilded fossil
/ guys for 1 sec my brain saw ginsy and then thought "ah res is here"
spring blaze
i am res
upbeat reef
How come we keep their souls with our cape then?
tender dune
how many res's are there..
spring blaze
res noises
gilded fossil
How come we keep their souls with our cape then?
/we dont?? maybe we do???
spring blaze
wired i like to think of wing buffs as a gift from the spirit
theres two spirits ingame where you can ascend them twice though, so thats the thing where im iffy on “the buffs are their souls”
gilded fossil
/ wired you havent told me if you have seen moff doc yet tho
theres two spirits ingame where you can ascend them twice though, so thats the thing where im iffy on “the buffs are their souls”
/who has 2 wing buffs again?
/maybe they have 2 souls
fossil oxide
upbeat reef
I have. It was just the page with the few definitions on it. I read that and The Vault.
I always assumed they were doing a play on the Buddhist guides who sacrifice Nirvana in order to make sure every single living thing reaches enlightenment first.
tender dune
#sky-memes @fossil oxide
gilded fossil
/ pyre that's for sky memees
fossil oxide
oh sorry
compact olive
Morning crew, what we Lorin’ about?
tender dune
wing buff i guess
tender dune
heya 
upbeat reef
Bodhisattva. That's the word I'm thinking of.
compact olive
I’m literally just waking up. Eyes still half shut. But let’s do this! What about winged buffs?
gilded fossil
Bodhisattva. That's the word I'm thinking of.
/oh explain?
upbeat reef
(in Mahayana Buddhism) a person who is able to reach nirvana but delays doing so out of compassion in order to save suffering beings.
gilded fossil
/ res i do have to inform that ginsy tried to pretend to be you
solar relic
no ginsy is actually me it's ok jen no need to be alarmed
spring blaze
this is my alt
tender dune
ginsy has always given me res vibes now im 
gilded fossil
(in Mahayana Buddhism) a person who is able to reach nirvana but delays doing so out of compassion in order to save suffering beings.
/what nirvana
compact olive
Oh my god what?
gilded fossil
/ ~~so that's why???? my brain told me???? you feel like res??? ~~
upbeat reef
In this game is seems to be ascending to the stars where their souls/spirits are released.
compact olive
(Insert dragonballZ reference of Goku and vegeta doing the joining as one dance here)
gilded fossil
/ah, so you mean we;re the bodhisattva
upbeat reef
Mhm. They are stuck in the cycle of reincarnation for eons.
gilded fossil
/so we choose to help?
upbeat reef
Yeah. Bodhisattvas have to endure life after life after life until every single thing has reached enlightenment.
compact olive
Okay I need some idea of the canon -ness of the reincarnation bit of the game play...
rapid pollen
/what nirvana
@gilded fossil nirvana is basically heaven
guys im in eden at 6 light left and im not getting hit by any rocks
ill see if i can get some statue pics and stuff
gilded fossil
/oooh nice
rapid pollen
nope no statues where i am 😦
solar relic
who knows? maybe i am giving ginsy vibes instead
anyway i briefly searched up some of the terms since i'm not that well versed in buddhism this idea of reincarnation from buddhism might denote that we are constantly trying to become perfect/achieve our goals/let go of the bad stuff basically
rapid pollen
if i go out to look ill die
i found a yt video that shows eden with no rocks cuz glitch
ill put it here
upbeat reef
Yeah. They believe life is suffering and pain. The way to end it is to reach Nirvana which breaks the cycle and you no longer get reincarnated.
topaz girder
rapid pollen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvKi4QwhqkA watch this and take pictures they show eden before the rocks
also the glitch to do it
you need warp
and friends
upbeat reef
Only thing is our characters die so young. I dunno if it's just because of the game asthetic or if it's purposely that morbid.
gilded fossil
Yeah. They believe life is suffering and pain.
/i cant agree more
upbeat reef
And we have to regularly be making these horrifying trips as 8-year-olds for a reason.
spring blaze
pretty old glitch
compact olive
Well the sacrifice of a child means so much more than the sacrifice of an adult
gilded fossil
And we have to regularly be making these horrifying trips as 8-year-olds for a reason.
/who let a child do this
rapid pollen
i found a statue in eden i ss
two actually
they are the same
they look like scholar hat ppl
compact olive
I don’t think think the game canon is supposed to include and endless amount of reincarnations
solar relic
looking at it more, it's very sad that skids are sent out and their sole purpose is to sacrifice themselves and die
like they're literally just born and boom it's time to go and die 😔
bitter shale
@rapid pollen ohh yeah those two
upbeat reef
Yeah. Eden is attached to the library. That's the kingdom The Vault was trying to document knowledge from.
compact olive
But I don’t think they are just born.
compact olive
I think they are the prince reincarnated
rapid pollen
aight glowy boi time
upbeat reef
It could be a kingdom in ruins due to a horrible father and the son is now paying the price and trying to make things right.
compact olive
So this short life is only one aspect of their life cycle
upbeat reef
So the son is now stuck in eternal suffering trying to right the wrongs.
Of his father.
solar relic
that's what i think too oz
it can be like the prince being reborn many times x the 50 million downloads sky accumulated
compact olive
But I have a hard time with the loop idea....
gilded fossil
/ survey seems to bring us plenty of people huh i've met 5 new faces this week
rapid pollen
ok im in ascent taking pic
compact olive
The cutscenes don’t make sense with the additional reincarnations
bitter shale
Which cutscenes
compact olive
Alllllll of the cutscenes
steel wigeon
What exactly are skykids? Fallen stars?
gilded fossil
What exactly are skykids? Fallen stars?
/gatorade
rapid pollen
i found soem gates look like eden gats but king-sized
spring blaze
they’re skykifs
compact olive
Why would your reincarnation break daleth’s face again?
gilded fossil
/ finally im here when someone ask it
tender dune
oh boi pedro are you in for a treat lemme grab my vid
the giant gate is a biig king gate
rapid pollen
im in the part with the what I call Elder Jellies
upbeat reef
Cutscenes are just memories, I thought.
They show us what the elders were doing with their people.
Why don't they make sense to you?
compact olive
Not for the elders, their cutscenes where they thank you
upbeat reef
Oh. When everyone ascending in Eden?
bitter shale
They show us what the elders were doing with their people.
Is that mean... Teth smacking people with their hammer-
rapid pollen
just hitched a ride with a manta in ascent
upbeat reef
Look some elders had to beat people occasionally.
Don't judge them.
It's a harsh world out there.
spring blaze
elder cutscenes shows the present (we see us giving the flame) while spirit cutscenes shows the past
rapid pollen
i judge teth shes probably the evil one
compact olive
Also, why would the spirits of the ancestors, like the pointing spirit and the hand stand spirit that you’ve already brought to Megabird, be back at eden and flying back up to Megabird
???
So why would we continually have to give the elder’s flames 🔥?
bitter shale
For some reason
upbeat reef
Oh yeah. That part I'm pretty sure is just so there is a game.
The ideal/realistic one would be that every time you finish Eden you return to new souls/people/lifetimes who need to be saved. But they can't produce like 7 new games a day.
I picture is as
compact olive
That doesn’t seem natural. It seems. Like a glitch. An exact duplicate being replicated over and over. Something feels off about that explanation being true.
upbeat reef
One cycle is the first expansion. And then we loop back to the start to replay.
bitter shale
We are created to suffer
upbeat reef
And once they come out with the next expansion that's our second life.
solar relic
let's play: is rebirth game mechs or lore?
bitter shale
Look man, if sky just ended straight after we reach orbit... that would be a very short game
tender dune
both
upbeat reef
We'll see how they implement the expansion.
compact olive
Yes, a short game. But is it mech or lore?
bitter shale
Question of the year
Just like how we asking if skids shadow a game mechanic or lore
solar relic
top 10 questions science cannot answer
upbeat reef
The game isn't really about time travel/time loops. So I'm not getting any vibes that it's lore.
compact olive
I like the idea of the expansion being the reincarnation but those cutscenes just make little sense after the 2nd 3rd 4th time around
gilded fossil
/oh ho have you seen bricky's theory tho wire
upbeat reef
That Eden is Father Time and we're trying desperately to go back far enough to stop our father from destroying the kingdom we were meant to inheret?
patent gust
why sky kids shadows don't have their cape shadow?
tender dune
personally for me why its both is because im really into bloodborne and that game's lore and game mechanic is in a loop which is exactly whats happening to sky
spring blaze
thats a game mech thing emma haha
solar relic
yep technical limitations, it'd be pretty hard to render the capes shadows i'd imagine
spring blaze
especially since they look they updated the capes
fossil oxide
i did it
spring blaze
theylook more wrinkly
fossil oxide
upbeat reef
Yeah our characters base is seen in Eden without the cape.
fossil oxide
.....
upbeat reef
That's the part of the game model with the shadow.
gilded fossil
/pyre looks like an onion ngl
compact olive
It doesn’t feel like an endless loop of sadness and punishment is exactly opposite to Jenovachen’s ideology and purpose for making Sky?
solar relic
would be a nightmare to follow the exact cape shadow down to the folds and wrinkles
o ye pyre, what do the colours represent?
fossil oxide
but the in universe theory is that the cosmetics r the s kids imagination
and by sharing the red candles the s kids tell each other what they look like....
sinful anvil
im gonna follow mind control theory in this case; seems like megabird is ticked at alef stealing the flame
fossil oxide
oh and i wrote the realm names.....
gilded fossil
/ i say skids are just tupperware
fossil oxide
ai tupperware
upbeat reef
Buddhism believes that life is pain and suffering. Bodhisattvas are stuck in an endless loop of pain.
fossil oxide
that goes and spilles some light here and there
compact olive
Yeah but I’m asking if that ideology is in line with the creator’s explicit vision for Sky
fossil oxide
prob not
upbeat reef
Yeah. It's heavily inspired by Buddhism.
rapid pollen
buncha skykids flying together
fossil oxide
thats why i virtually live in sanc
rapid pollen
and also
fossil oxide
and prairie
fossil oxide
u ever see
rapid pollen
theres a bunch of those in teh sky
rapid pollen
yes
fossil oxide
its that
rapid pollen
thats what i mean
storm glacier
This has probably come up, but like Eden is supposed to be paradise right?
upbeat reef
It's actually because our characters don't have the appropriate glasses prescriptions.
rapid pollen
This has probably come up, but like Eden is supposed to be paradise right?
@storm glacier the lore is that Eden fell
gilded fossil
/ pyre and pedro both have a way of typing that's send every sentence, oh dear i read your theories as 1 mess
rapid pollen
and it used to be paradise maybe
/
pyre and pedro both have a way of typing that's send every sentence, oh dear i read your theories as 1 mess
@gilded fossil fax
sly kestrel
wasn’t built as a paradise but it was built in way better shape then it is now
rapid pollen
wasn’t built as a paradise but it was built in way better shape then it is now
@sly kestrel yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvKi4QwhqkA watch this to see eden without the rocks and darkness and stuff
its fr
glitch thing and its actually beautiful
solar relic
eden probably looked better than it does rn
we could have gotten disneyland but we have rockworld 😔
rapid pollen
eden probably looked better than it does rn
we could have gotten disneyland but we have rockworld 😔
@solar relic bro watch the vid
compact olive
Well.. I mean the matrix movies were inspired by Christianity, but it has an anti Christian message. You believe Jenova Secretly wants a story that contradicts his ideals of togetherness and the importance of selflessness? To be punished forever for an eternity ?
solar relic
huh why did you ping me
rapid pollen
nvm
sly kestrel
It’s a glitch, jus bc there’s no rocks it don’t mean that’s what it supposed to look like and that’s the condition it was in before
storm glacier
Oh yeah I was just watching that vid
rapid pollen
It’s a glitch, jus bc there’s no rocks it don’t mean that’s what it supposed to look like and that’s the condition it was in before
@sly kestrel i meant thats what it looks liek without rocks
storm glacier
I imagine it woulda been more green before falling
sly kestrel
There’s still the red sky, broken architecture and depressing feel
And If the intro is right “a long time has passed” I’m pretty it means it has been crumbling and decaying for a really long time
rapid pollen
yes i know
its from a person who glitched back to eden after death through warp
and friend
sly kestrel
But
There was no good purpose in why they built eden, this is when the king and his followers corruption was at most
rapid pollen
just thought we could lore theory off the statues and architecture bc we can see it clearer omg
gilded fossil
/ they wanted more red bull
sly kestrel
Oh yes
solar relic
what else could have been powering the diamonds man, red bull was their well of power 😌
gilded fossil
/also i thought gin has theory of the eden statues
bitter shale
That one theory about diamond eden was made to absorb megan's light
like Tower of Babel story
There’s still the red sky, broken architecture and depressing feel
And If the intro is right “a long time has passed” I’m pretty it means it has been crumbling and decaying for a really long time
The sky is red because of solar eclipse
gilded fossil
/oh yea show us your solar ecclipse theory
solar relic
ooo i haven't seen that theory i think sneep who? i need answers
tender dune
me or who?
bitter shale
the myth of Rahu The Sun Eater
According to legend, during the Samudra manthan, the asura Rahu drank some of the amrita (divine nectar). The sun and moon realized it and alerted Mohini (the female avatar of Vishnu). Mohini cut off the asura's head before the nectar could pass his throat. The head, however, remained immortal due to the effect of amrita and became Rahu.
It is believed that this immortal head from time to time swallows the sun, causing eclipses. Then, the sun passes through the opening at the neck, ending the eclipse. The body also turned into Ketu due to a boon, and it in turn swallows the moon on timely basis to cause a lunar eclipse.
Well
The point is, what if The king actually try to "eat the sun"? On vault we can see a mural of eden elder holding a ball
tender dune
its my crackpot theory which is:
the king is actually eating the orb instead of praying upward with the orb repenting something (because he wanted to replace megan)
sry had to dig said that a long time ago hah
bitter shale
Sun ehre is... more like how he tryna to get more power by absorbing light. He has done absrobing lights from light creatures, nd yet he seek for a bigger light
rapid pollen
im now on my wl run after eden and im literally studying every glyph everywhere
bitter shale
So he try to absorb light from Megan
solar relic
so in this case
rahu = king
drinking of amrita = his ambition for power
eclipse = result of this? inb4 king is in game but his head blocking the sun
tender dune
i did have another (crackpot?) theory about the eden diamond too
summer shell
i am back but maybe i shouldn't be because i spent 5 hours on here yesterday 😂
tender dune
https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/632004389137154048/752426355009781771
in my personal theory the eden diamond is naturally occuring
solar relic
i know that's the prince but the mask is similar shhh
yeah that's the moon/sun thing in eden being eclipsed
crackpot theory!! :aahhEyes:
What if they tried digging into the naturally existing eden diamond but their digging was a mistake because it caused the shatter + overflow = imbalance of light-darkness = annihilation due to their greedy mistake
does that mean
they dug their own grave :pPopcorn:
gilded fossil
/it doees like an esclipes
tender dune
does that mean
they dug their own grave
basically yes (ba dum tss)
gilded fossil
/hello void
solar relic
here's a better photo
tender dune
oh lord i cannot unsee that leftmost skid and his anatomy 
solar relic
skid gymnastics man
summer shell
so what lore are we discussing right now?
sinful anvil
eden is in a freaking eclipse??
solar relic
flos' theory about there being an eclipse in sky
solar relic
pretty cool
bitter shale
So how i can connect the Rahu myth with the creation of Eden diamond?
In the myth, Rahu stole a sip from divine nectar which will make you immortal. The King (as Rahu) try to get more light to get more power, so he build a giant diamond and use it to absorb Megan's light (divine nectar)
It did work, but then everything goes haywire. Megan's light that have been absorbed turned into a big chaos and soon become a storm that detroying the once beautiful country. (Sort as Rahu's demise)
rapid pollen
the constellation sign
bitter shale
Its quite confusing, truly
rapid pollen
second one he sent mantas
bitter shale
I need to think about this carefully 
tender dune
pedro can you type your sentence as a whole so its doesnt get lost please? 
solar relic
take your time to work on it flos 
i think it's a cool theory to expand on
bitter shale
Anywya i will go eat dinner. Talk to you guys later
gilded fossil
/gtg to byyyye
summer shell
So how i can connect the Rahu myth with the creation of Eden diamond?
In the myth, Rahu stole a sip from divine nectar which will make you immortal. The King (as Rahu) try to get more light to get more power, so he build a giant diamond and use it to absorb Megan's light (divine nectar)
It did work, but then everything goes haywire. Megan's light that have been absorbed turned into a big chaos and soon become a storm that detroying the once beautiful country. (Sort as Rahu's demise)
@bitter shale is this a real story?
tender dune
this is the myth Crad https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/632004389137154048/758340694673719316
sinful anvil
in chinese intro there’re two lines that caught my eye: “The Cloud Kingdom flourished and was destroyed. The stars have endured enough suffering”
so that means elders(?) and eden statues as shiny bois got repercussions from it?
tender dune
they do seem weak and defeated before we give them the flame
solar relic
do you have the whole translated chinese intro? i think that just refers to the elders since english intro has the stars as elders, i think chinese intro would do the same. but it depends on what the chinese intro says about the stars and elders altogether
sinful anvil
i think its in the pins
i felt betrayed when i found out the english intro is slightly different
tender dune
there will always be difference in language and will always have things lost in translation
sinful anvil
从前，天上有好多好多星星
有一天，他们却离开天空，
去云间建立了自己的国度
千百年过去了……
云之王国繁荣又毁灭
星星们已经受够了苦难
我的孩子，去寻找失落的群星，带他们回家吧……
Lambda direct translation:
Long [time] ago, there were many, many stars in the sky.
One day, they left the sky,
to build their civilization in the clouds.
Thousands of years passed,
the kingdom of sky [once] flourished and [was] obliterated.
The stars have endure enough suffering,
My child, go find the lost stars, and bring them home...
@willow shoal
credit to lambda
it didnt say the light is infinite
solar relic
could be a translation thing, though it's done in-house direct translations aren't always possible
chinese to english is weird and so is english to chinese
lethal stump
oh, are we talking about the intro in different languages ?
sinful anvil
in here its like megabird didnt cause this and wants us to reduce their suffering
sinful anvil
she could be trying to do anything but can’t, or she is a neglectful mother who is unwilling to solve the problem herself
lethal stump
part of me is optimistic that the « darkness » just made megan weak so she couldn’t do anything about it
otherwise, it feels like she’s just watching the suffering for entertainment
sinful anvil
i wonder how many else stars fell and created their kingdoms and made a mistake like the king? could there be a multi race of skykids?
tender dune
what if losing the children of light made her weak and unable to balance the world. which is why she created us and we were able to ascend those Col back to her
hushed steeple
Sky multiverse
solar relic
megan turns on tv time for my daily dose of the sky kingdom reality show
sinful anvil
i just rationalize that she treats everything equally but isnt the soft kind, so she doesnt want to fix every mistake herself
… this server censors another s word that starts with “sad”
lethal stump
sky kingdom: everyones dying
megan:
sinful anvil
im not using it for nsfw purposes thou
tender dune
even in sky chat that word is censored. dw about it
hushed steeple
I mean, I'm pretty sure Megan is tired from fixing up the mistakes the elders and the king made, so she's just watching us frantically trying to fix it ourselves
sinful anvil
i dont think she also can understand the pain elders get from their mistake cuz shes a god
(i got this thought after a hollow knight meta writer states pale king doesnt think like human/common beings)
lethal stump
do y’all think megan is like the elders’ mom
sinful anvil
thats what confuses me
hushed steeple
y e s perhaps
solar relic
megan is pretty much everyone's mom if you think about it
sinful anvil
i wonder are these the only elders, there can be other sky kingdoms making the same mistakes yet we are sent here
its odd
solar relic
at least that's my take on it if she creates literally everyone and everything
sinful anvil
like God is our dad? lol
solar relic
i define mom as a literal birthgiver
but as a mother figure? ... no
sinful anvil
i see mom as a mother figure so u made my heart 💔
sinful anvil
but one thing that made megabird oddly affectionate is out of every world in the kingdom, she sent us here
would there be other skykids fixing other realms
solar relic
perhaps
that means a lot of realms got messed up 😔
ah i should go sneep now, happy theorising
hushed steeple
I'm not sure about this, but I think Megan is quite weak at this point. With all of the light vs darkness thing going on (and darkness having the upper hand), she's exhausted her energy (perhaps the reason why she's not helping us).
So we're not only trying to save the elders and restore the light, but also trying to save Megan
rapid pollen
Jelly Kingdom I rule it
Location: Hidden Forest, most jellies there
Come be a jelly we have fun.
tender dune
basically yes noom
rancid onyx
yeah the cycle's broken
sinful anvil
small new theory: skykids are descendants, literally the next gen of citizens living in world of ruins. this explains they are given the task to restore the light but not mandatory to do so
thorn trout
I'm a little late,
But yeah,
I think Megan is honestly just really tired. She's got other people to deal with, and plus, the kingdom kind of messed up!!!!
So she just. sent Skychildren down and was like "Call me when you're done"
But I've actually been thinking about the one phrase from the opening:
"Bring the lost stars home."
What does that even mean?
sinful anvil
how many more messed up kingdoms are out there tho
sinful anvil
are the realms the only realms out here?
bitter shale
the orbit
sinful anvil
this is like the fermi paradox (iirc)?
thorn trout
We try to save them, but it's never permanent. Even if it was, we die in Eden, and never accomplish anything.
How are we supposed to bring the stars home, when it can't actually happen?
bitter shale
maybe sky kingdom is where the fallen stars resided and stay
so the main kingdom we focused on ia current one
sinful anvil
mb megan just wants to connect elders with her again
thorn trout
But like
Even then
That suggests she wants to bring them home.
Bring the Elders through Eden, up to orbit?????
tender dune
maybe megan wants the flame the prince stole back
bitter shale
@thorn trout maybe we are some kind of connector for the stars? like, we can meet the elders and show them the way to home but we cant actually bring back them to home
we are just showing them the way
sinful anvil
empathically, she allows elders to stay in their realms and only demands to connect themselves with the light, maybe thats what it means to be home. its like seeing ur kid entering the workplace but just give them some means of contact
bitter shale
the elders are the one who can decide if they want to go home
thorn trout
Huh! Interesting.
...But now I'm envisioning them actually visiting Orbit and Megan and.
It's chaos
sinful anvil
imagine the elders going up to megabird and say: i still dont wanna go home
bitter shale
then why are you back??
thorn trout
Megan: Oh hey, you're home
Elders: Yes. It's been so long
Megan: Cool. Glad to see it worked
Elder: ...Do you have anything else to say. This was very painful
Megan: Nope
bitter shale
lmaoo
thorn trout
Megan: You're traumatized? Cool!
Elders: THIS ISN'T FUNNY
bitter shale
man i wish we can interacted with the elders more
hushed steeple
(Prince and the King) kind of exists, but we leave that up to you interpret their roles in the lore.
that is how i read it, if you consider Prince and the King different entities, the conjugation orexistdoes not make grammatical sense. @/ALD Productions#8129
bitter shale
hushed steeple
how starved are we from lore to be looking for clues in grammar from the devs' messages?
well i consider all messages devs write to have perfect grammar unless otherwise stated, so this must have significance
it is meant to be ambiguous
tender dune
have fun theorising 
bye 
hushed steeple
am i just going insane?? or does this yield actual significance?
Could be both at this point ;;
But I'm also getting in the same boat as you, so...
i think i am so desperate for lore i am getting progressively more delusional
Yeah, I get you
The other day I was frantically running through the realms because I wanted to check something
Turns out that all of the "accessories" changing rooms have a stone arch and a golden floor (while none of the rest have it)
Is it lore-relevant? Who knows lmao
frail hearth
it also has the star thingy
hushed steeple
Yeah, the sun/star symbol that also appears in the piers in prairie
I think that might be important, I just don't know how
there is nothing to theorize on because what we are theorizing on is a theory. so now we are crafting iterations of meta-theories, and the lore of sky is so vague, people have taken perspective on every detail which in turn expands the lore beyond its initial intent(the devs cannot confirm or deny this so we will never know), so adding all the meta-theories up and inter-dependencies and we get a book, a book about sky that never was meant to be...
I'll go compile the changing rooms
the stages of a lore dweller, what stage are you all at?
- Excitement, happy to delve into the interesting story behind Sky
- Perseverance, the struggle to maintain theories and find new evidence
- 1st Crisis, questions on the foundational document and its accurate, finds out there is no proof and evidence on anything.
- Hiatus...
- Acceptance, accepts the vagueness of the backstory and project ones own interpretations
- 2nd Crisis, questions the theory of theories and meta-theories and their implications.
- Hiatus..............
- Philosophical, why are we here in the first place, what is our purpose
- 3rd Crisis, there is nothing worth exploring, worth theorycrafting, it is all just... one's interpretation and imagination, there is no story, this all is simply meaningless, empty............
Long time passes... A new update drops... the cycle repeats...
frail hearth
i'm in all phases at the same time
hushed steeple
this is just a joke, but we really should have a better system for documenting theories
i feel you
sinful anvil
im p much in stages of grief ya
next jasper
I was discussing with a friend, that possibly the Dark Creatures, could be trying to get to Eden to either, feed off of its light, or another quite interesting possibility, may be that they are trying to be reborn themselves. What are your thoughts?
kind musk
hushed steeple
This probably has close to zero lore weight, but whatever 
Perhaps the symbol represents light?
And the accessories we use are actually just light, made into a certain form
also notice how vault doesn't have a changing room
sinful anvil
frail hearth
i like how they all have the symbol but prairie is just ⬛️
undone harbor
I was discussing with a friend, that possibly the Dark Creatures, could be trying to get to Eden to either, feed off of its light, or another quite interesting possibility, may be that they are trying to be reborn themselves. What are your thoughts?
@next jasper I remember reading the concept art and it said all creatures return to the light (somehow)
Since orbit is THE light,they might be trying to reach that and escape the horrible fate they were in
But Eden said "lol nope"
undone harbor
Also Eden has like
No light
Darkness consumed-
It's ok
the stages of a lore dweller, what stage are you all at?
- Excitement, happy to delve into the interesting story behind Sky
- Perseverance, the struggle to maintain theories and find new evidence
- 1st Crisis, questions on the foundational document and its accurate, finds out there is no proof and evidence on anything.
- Hiatus...
- Acceptance, accepts the vagueness of the backstory and project ones own interpretations
- 2nd Crisis, questions the theory of theories and meta-theories and their implications.
- Hiatus..............
- Philosophical, why are we here in the first place, what is our purpose
- 3rd Crisis, there is nothing worth exploring, worth theorycrafting, it is all just... one's interpretation and imagination, there is no story, this all is simply meaningless, empty............
Long time passes... A new update drops... the cycle repeats...
@hushed steeple
hushed steeple
?
undone harbor
I was trying to reply to it
hushed steeple
oh
undone harbor
But it seems to get deleted every time i send with my own text
hushed steeple
you dont have to quote it
undone harbor
Wait I don't?
I thought that would give more context but ok
Also sorry for summoning you here
undone harbor
OH
I've never used that before..hmm
Thanks for sharing!
hushed steeple
part of the messages*
you would have to do it manually though, it is easier on desktop
undone harbor
cries in mobile
I'm usually the one who just spits out theories without more than 2 evidences
hushed steeple
add > to start a single line quote, for example
message
add>>>to start a multiline quote, note you can not end a multiline quote, it continues to the end of the message , for examplea
multiline
quote
undone harbor
OH THATS HOW PEOPLE DO IT-
frail hearth
yeah
hushed steeple
you need a space after the >
celest turtle
Hi
short owl
I suspect I am stage 5.
hushed steeple
anyways lore chat isnt for experimenting with markdown formatting
undone harbor
Ah right,sorry
undone harbor
I'm still at stage one-
celest turtle
I am at stage 1
hushed steeple
i wonder what stage bricky is at
thorn trout
Bricky is lore god
Who knows
hushed steeple
Re-did the thing
I had misspelled Docks and I couldn't unsee it
lyric isle
Prairie is just a square
hushed steeple
Ye
lyric isle
quadrilateral even
hushed steeple
Wondering if they'll fix it soon
lyric isle
prob have
dim bluff
I wonder why only those "changing rooms" have a golden lined floor
hushed steeple
I mean, those are some details I noticed, but I've got no idea why they're like that
bitter shale
noom what app did you used to made that
bitter shale
thansk friend
topaz girder
hehe prince / king symbol go brr
hushed steeple
wait- that's true
bitter shale
hushed steeple
bitter shale
i cant even see my own image but yeah im pretty sure tahts the right picture
hushed steeple
It is lol
bitter shale
oh for god sake why is this wifi sucks
topaz girder
indonesian wifi just sucks man
hushed steeple
Try reloading discord
bitter shale
eh its already appeared lol
topaz girder
but it seems like there's only a few stars that have those symbol
topaz girder
i cant . english
bitter shale
i noticed the same thing too
its fine
or at least stars that already touched earth...?
frail hearth
so if that symbol represents the stars, does that mean the harp is a gift of the gods?
topaz girder
maybe the season of prophecy dudes are fallen stars aswell ,, maybe they are not really " fallen " more like sent
bitter shale
hmmm im curious on one thing
daleth seems to eb there when the stars falls. is taht mean... daleth isnt a star?
its quite strange
dim bluff
Daleth?
hushed steeple
I'm glad my useless image compiling was worth something
topaz girder
there are four stars in the isle elder mural , and there are four spirits ( if not including a questgiver ? )
bitter shale
daleth is isle elder
dim bluff
Ohhh
topaz girder
hahahah can't wait for prophecy live so we can all go crazy
bitter shale
maybe... just maybe
you might be into soemthing here, fangirl
or how am i suppose to call you-
hshshs
uhhhhhh 12 more days
topaz girder
haha you can call me fangirl or kat
topaz girder
Is there an official date for prophecy?
the motd is just a placeholder for now , also , i don't think this is the right place for asking that question
dim bluff
Oh 
hushed steeple
best to ask in #questions-and-help!
bitter shale
once, 4 stars fell from the heaven. people bring them to the wise elder, who kindly helping those stars back to heaven. With their departure the light creatures can follow and find their way back to the stars
hmmm
4 stars. 4 prophets
and one elder who shaped like Among Us player
interesting
topaz girder
iNTereSting
but also , why is it that symbol there ? it's the symbol of fallen / sent stars right ?
bitter shale
hmm, probably
hushed steeple
Do you guys know if there are any other murals depicting stars?
for investigations purposes
bitter shale
hmm lemme check my gallery
topaz girder
i have . Zero memory
hushed steeple
Because there are murals in forest, but they're about the transportation of butterflies
bitter shale
nvm my gallery is filled with memes
hushed steeple
And the ones in akr are, well...
hushed steeple
Hm
hushed steeple
That's not the same star shape
topaz girder
Because there are murals in forest, but they're about the transportation of butterflies
send
hushed steeple
hushed steeple
For the longest time, i thought this one and the one in the changing rooms were the same
I'm not too sure now
hushed steeple
BUT what if the symbols of the shields represent two different types of stars?
bitter shale
hushed steeple
Instead of a sun and a star
topaz girder
the sun is a star
hushed steeple
I'm big dumb
bitter shale
hushed steeple
Flos, let me borrow your image
frail hearth
i feel like it would make more sense if the elder hairs were in the dressing room with the star
topaz girder
sun shield symbol lowkey looks like prince ( not exactly the star ) symbol
bitter shale
notice that the biggest temple is Valley temple
frail hearth
yeah
topaz girder
it's a stadium so
hushed steeple
The peak of the civilization
frail hearth
valley was the capital after all
bitter shale
also notice how the star symbol on "eden" is actually the biggest and the brightest
frail hearth
LONG NO HECK
topaz girder
ya the eden star symbol looks like the sun shield symbol
frail hearth
also fangirls i saw your message, go to sleep
bitter shale
man what if the war is actually between forest and other realms
why
its 1 am
night still long
frail hearth
fair
man what if the war is actually between forest and other realms
inhales p r a i r i e
bitter shale
dun dun duuuun
hushed steeple
Shoot em with them butterflies, old man
frail hearth
HAHSGDH
bitter shale
bow down to my butterflies
topaz girder
forest needs prairie for making diamonds bcs i think prairie is like a light creature farm
hushed steeple
Basically, yeah. And they also pack them neatly
frail hearth
what if prairie people were giving butterflies to forest without the elder knowing?
topaz girder
black market light creature trading go brrr
frail hearth
then ayin realized and said "don't hurt my poor little butterflies", teth got mad and war
topaz girder
silence
hushed steeple
i'm compiling stars
topaz girder
yes
lyric isle
ok random thing I’ll say
When we refer to the Prophecy spirits (in the 
- transition period we’re in), this image is the up-to-date one in terms of designs, as opposed to the initial reveal teaser.
topaz girder
when you are in beta and u just wanna . U wanna talk abt lore . Youre impatient . Damn this some juicy lore but this is beta content .
peak locust
Are we not allowed to talk about beta in the lore channel?
topaz girder
Nope
peak locust
oh ok
hushed steeple
bitter shale
yeah i need to enter eden twice to get the lighted one
somehow the cutscene just got skipped to the door opened
lyric isle
the beeg dour
hushed steeple
Flos, do you think I should add the door to the star symbols? 
peak locust
There are six realms right? (Not counting eden) then why are there only five line things at the top
bitter shale
you might want to
hushed steeple
If you look closely, there's only 5 elder masks on the door
lyric isle
It’s to do with that in Beta Isle was considered much more a tutorial
some people look into it a bit more with Dalet having done something
maybe outcast for whatever
bitter shale
hell door is the same replica with one in home btw
hushed steeple
The fact that their mask is broken doesn't help to reduce the theories
bitter shale
altho they are more like bootleg baymax heads
lyric isle
Dalet might have had some really awful time
hushed steeple
i don't know how to fit the images
peak locust
what did the eden door look like before it opened
bitter shale
also
im too lazy to explore realms rn
@peak locust which one? the one after we go out from the vault or in home?
peak locust
Ah ok
bitter shale
lemme check on yt videos
hushed steeple
Flos you're killing me
bitter shale
lyric isle
OK random idea
the civil war was about the use of artificial power or not
spitballing but the Light vs the Diamond motif
peak locust
don’t we have diamonds in our bodies? Is that where we get our light from
hushed steeple
Uh, I don't think we actually have a diamond inside of us
peak locust
or some white glowing diamond shaped thing
lyric isle
As in power diamonds
randomly thought that there might have been conflict over the ethics of doing this
I mean, manta are processed
hushed steeple
I mean, they didn't have a problem (or did they?) grinding mantas and butterflies for energy
lyric isle
light creatures were abused in the making
sinful anvil
it lowkey bothers me that samekh is involved in eden portal
peak locust
if these aren’t diamonds what are they
hushed steeple
Some say that tiny spot is like a manifestation of our light
Since we actually take a candle out of there ;;
peak locust
We take our candles out of our chest?
hushed steeple
Take a look
lyric isle
Yes
hushed steeple
Or rather, look closely next time you take out your candle
lyric isle
I’m thinking of that chart of the colour/shape theory and symbolism
peak locust
It looks ore like the candle just appears
hushed steeple
the one in the mask isn't a power diamond either ;;;
peak locust
I mean like the shape is a diamond
lyric isle
Was going to go on about the hybrid thing
peak locust
also is home physically connected to the realms? The engravings on the bell seem to imply so
lyric isle
maybe
hushed steeple
There's a whole debate about that
peak locust
𝑎𝑙𝑠𝑜 does anyone else think the thing at the top look a bit like the prince
lyric isle
WAIT YES
peak locust
We also have a relatively simpler shape surrounding the glowing thing on our chest
*similar
Actually nvm it looks more like this
hushed steeple
If you look close enough, everything looks like the king
peak locust
the king seems very obsessed with propaganda
peak locust
what
peak locust
do you think the engravings on the bells could represent the six realms, eden and orbit
hushed steeple
Also whats the purpose of the bells? We can see that they can kinda "call" to the light creatures
And are the symbols binded with magic? Are they spells?
peak locust
yeah
peak locust
or maybe the bells are showing how to mimic creatures
hushed steeple
Ok so what if light creatures were killed for light?
rapid pollen
obviously the skykids and the ancestors were descended from the animasl
obviously
confirmed by me
rapid pollen
im directly descended from the original jellies
hushed steeple
Ah
Also why does the king look different in the mural at vault, but we see many shapes of him around sky?
Here let me find pics
peak locust
wasn’t the mural for the eden elder or something
hushed steeple
Yeah
So I'm thinking, maybe his shape we see in the last two pics are either 1. His throne? Or 2. His corrupted form
peak locust
hushed steeple
peak locust
In your first pick it looks like the person is resting a strange glowing ball
*eating
hushed steeple
Yeah
I wondered what that is but who knows
Also in that first pic, we still see the shape of the king
peak locust
¯_(ツ)_/¯
rapid pollen
In your first pick it looks like the person is resting a strange glowing ball
@peak locust lemme show u a thoery from earlier today
@peak locust https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/632004389137154048/758343522876522546 read down from here and youll know when the theory ends
hushed steeple
dense umbra
We keep thinking the whole big structure is the king maybe it's just the throne/tower he's standing on