lore-discussion-spoilers

[lethal stump]

a glossary of terms would certainly be useful

[kind musk]

yep, like GW, or TS

[lethal stump]

i do want you to know, though, there is already a theory doc

you’re aware of that right ?

[kind musk]

Nope....

[lethal stump]

ah, well a theory doc has already been made

its been around a while, it’s in the pins

[kind musk]

Oh

[lethal stump]

#lore-discussion-spoilers message

i just wanted to let you know before you put too much effort into something that’s already been made

[kind musk]

Oh, but are not canon

[lethal stump]

yeah, theories aren’t canon

[kind musk]

I want to do a canon part and a not canon part!

Very complete

[lethal stump]

we already have a canon lore doc

#lore-discussion-spoilers message

théories by their very nature are not canon

[kind musk]

Oh well, i think is useless now

[sage lava]

Btw, i have another theory about the Valley Elders, someone wanna see about?

[kind musk]

Anyway, thanks!

[hushed steeple]

Tell us your theory, Azure

[lethal stump]

gtg yall

[summer shell]

Oh well, i think is useless now
@kind musk noooooo, please still make it. there can never be enough lore am i right? Anyway, it would be nice to make a new, fresh one alongside the original

[kind musk]

Do you think so?

[summer shell]

yes i do

[kind musk]

hmehm

I haven't any theories to write yet

Wanna hear the azure's one

read*

[sage lava]

@hushed steeple i have been looking at Valley and realized most of the building on the right side are damaged

[summer shell]

omg how are you so observant

that is amazing

[hushed steeple]

Ooo I never noticed

So what detail could that mean?

[thorn trout]

...Huh

[sage lava]

And when the valley elders came up for the first time to the kid:

[summer shell]

which elder is normally on that side?

[thorn trout]

Maybe it's because that's where the explosion from Eden came from?
It goes Valley, Wasteland, Vault and Eden. So maybe the amount of power came from that direction and damaged all the right-bearing buildings?

[kind musk]

is nice

[summer shell]

what explosion do you mean?

[hushed steeple]

That's what I was thinking too. But let's see what else it could be

[kind musk]

Azure, would you let me write your theory in the pdf

[sage lava]

The Dora elder is always on the right side, i realized

[kind musk]

now with the craddapple help i felt better

[sage lava]

Azure, would you let me write your theory in the pdf
@kind musk
Sure, go ahead

[kind musk]

Nice!

[thorn trout]

Sorry, reciting old theories that kind of tie into each other. XD
Aside from corruption,
There's a theory that there was an explosion of power from the giant diamond in Eden. It probably destroyed a lot of buildings, but some of the damage to the kingdom is also probably from age as well.
So yeah!

[summer shell]

i will see you all in the morning!

night!

[thorn trout]

Gnight!

[summer shell]

(this in one of my fav discord channels on any server)

[sage lava]

Sorry, reciting old theories that kind of tie into each other. XD
Aside from corruption,
There's a theory that there was an explosion of power from the giant diamond in Eden. It probably destroyed a lot of buildings, but some of the damage to the kingdom is also probably from age as well.
So yeah!
@thorn trout
I like the explosion theory tho i still think how weird those patterns are

[hushed steeple]

So what were you going to say about when we first see the valley elders?

[sage lava]

The Dora elder is always on the right side

[hushed steeple]

Oh

[kind musk]

Yes... but maybeeeh ehaasmmm

[hushed steeple]

yeah even here too

[kind musk]

She is bad omg okno

[sage lava]

Someone on tumblr also said a theory that the Dora Elder have a cracked mask, thats why we cant see the the pointed part like the kakashi elder

Tho, i dont have any references of that

[hushed steeple]

I thought the pointy part was just hidden cause of the hair

These are good observations tho

[kind musk]

Someone can tell me the name of the elders

Is for the glosary

[hushed steeple]

Isle: Daleth (ד)
Prairie: Ayin (ע)
Forest: Teth (ט)
Valley: Samekh (ס)
Wasteland: Tsadi (צ)
Vault: Lamed (ל)
Prince: Alef (א)
King: Resh (ר)
PLEASE NOTE: These names have appeared in concept art and are often used when referring to the elders. They are no longer canon, they are fanon.

[sage lava]

I thought the pointy part was just hidden cause of the hair
@hushed steeple
Me either, i still looking for that. The person said that was on a youtube video

[kind musk]

Thanks!

[hushed steeple]

Oh ok

[sage lava]

Tho, i couldnt find it yet

[hushed steeple]

Also yw!

I'll try to find it

[frail hearth]

this is unrelated but i was reading my first theories and- JHSHDHDN

[kind musk]

lol?

[hushed steeple]

Ok so I know i asked this yesterday but I wanna know what you guys think

[kind musk]

Wait, i'm the only who use VoK to refer the Vault of Knowledge?

[hushed steeple]

Do you think the elders were in the clouds first, or the ancestors?

[sage lava]

What you mean by ancestors?

[hushed steeple]

The spirits

[sage lava]

Hum

[kind musk]

the elders?

[hushed steeple]

I think the elders

[sage lava]

I think the ancestors lives isolated on the isle when the elders fell. And then the elders helped them to spread across the world of the sky

[hushed steeple]

cause the first spirit we see shows this

@sage lava yeah I think so too

Cause we see them pray and then go to the clouds after being guided by the isle elder

[inland narwhal]

I don’t think they lived in isle. Who knows there could be earth below sky.

[hushed steeple]

Isle is on the earth

[lusty hawk]

Is there like a basic rundown of sky’s lore it seems really interesting

[hushed steeple]

Also wasteland is too

[heady gyro]

Too cruel

[hushed steeple]

@lusty hawk check out the pins

[heady gyro]

Oh wrong channel bru

[hushed steeple]

When we're on isle, we are surrounded by the ocean

same with wl

[summer shell]

Isle: Daleth (ד)
Prairie: Ayin (ע)
Forest: Teth (ט)
Valley: Samekh (ס)
Wasteland: Tsadi (צ)
Vault: Lamed (ל)
Prince: Alef (א)
King: Resh (ר)
PLEASE NOTE: These names have appeared in concept art and are often used when referring to the elders. They are no longer canon, they are fanon.
They had/have names?!!!

[lusty hawk]

Ok thanks

[kind musk]

Aren't canon, but is a good way to refer

[summer shell]

But there are 2 valley spirits

Only one name

[hushed steeple]

Also home is on the earth

[kind musk]

Dora and Kakashi.. right?

[sage lava]

I use those name for them cuz why not? ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[kind musk]

Now i need help, i'm writting the glosary, i have only three acronyms, TS, GW and AC. But i can't remember more, help

[summer shell]

Ok I should really go to bed 😂

[kind musk]

have to be of common use

[summer shell]

Goodnight for real now

[hushed steeple]

Gn!

[kind musk]

ok, cya apple

[sage lava]

Gn!

[summer shell]

👋

[sage lava]

Anyway, i am analyzing the elders cutscene to see if i can get more details

[kind musk]

I recomend go to the stadium oob, maybe you can get some clues there

[sage lava]

I am getting a lot of trouble analyzing the valley elders in fact. I just think their cutscene dont fits at all or something is missing

[inland narwhal]

@hushed steeple

[kind musk]

what with that Flago?

[hexed carbon]

you need clues with wha-

sorry to interrupt-

[kind musk]

No, everyone have right to interrupt here

[hexed carbon]

[inland narwhal]

what with that Flago?
@kind musk isle and wasteland on earth.

[hexed carbon]

but what are all of those clues about, and for what-?

[sage lava]

I am trying to speculate the state of the elders after the explosion on the eden

but what are all of those clues about, and for what-?
@hexed carbon

[hexed carbon]

oh

[kind musk]

ya i remember what yesterday someone say what maybe isle is a part of gw

[hexed carbon]

will the papers at ||office|| help?

[kind musk]

but idk

[hexed carbon]

there’s some concept and a few facts wrote in it

[sage lava]

will the papers at ||office|| help?
@hexed carbon
I dont think so, i was trying to see what i can get from the cutscenes

[kind musk]

will the papers at ||office|| help?
@hexed carbon oooh nonono, everything there is just for chilling and haven't anything in lore.... right?

Just a easter egg

[hexed carbon]

maybe

oh

slxslslzlllslx

[frail hearth]

office is just a cool secret level

[kind musk]

Ah stop apologize!

Is ok 😄

[hexed carbon]

I can’t

anyways

but what if they eye of Eden elder was in a cutscene?

[sage lava]

I dont get your ask

[hexed carbon]

in vault’s cutscene

after showing all the elders

they’ll show something at the top

that looks like an elder

of the eden

[sage lava]

Yeah, thats was the King

[hexed carbon]

k i n g

why don’t they show in any cutscene?

[hushed steeple]

Well we have theories on who or where the king is

[gloomy stag]

Hello!Whats the current topic?

[hexed carbon]

the king that goes grrr

[frail hearth]

alright so

[sage lava]

I just think the vault cutscene was more like a Memory that the Vault Elder saved to show to the kid when they came up

Like, show what happened and what the kid should do

[frail hearth]

"the eden elder isn't around to be saved anymore". that's what it says in the canon docs. he might be dead; no one knows, that's why he doesn't appear in the cutscenes

[hushed steeple]

Yeah i think so too, azure

[hexed carbon]

imagine if krills krilled him

;)))))))

[hushed steeple]

Cause when we leave vault, it looks destroyed almost

[hexed carbon]

y e s

[frail hearth]

the vault is probably an illusion

[hushed steeple]

A memory

Yeah

[hexed carbon]

yes

[hushed steeple]

It is closest to eden, so maybe it's destroyed

Also why does the vault have all elder shrines?

[hexed carbon]

not sure-

[hushed steeple]

We even see the same shrines floating when we die

[hexed carbon]

mhm

[sage lava]

I have a theory for that too 😂

That will be a bit longer, hold on

[hushed steeple]

Like here

Vault and in orbit at eden.

[frail hearth]

yes

[kind musk]

A little ask, one of the valley elders is called dora, and the other??

[frail hearth]

kakashi

[hushed steeple]

Lol

[kind musk]

Ok thankssssss

[sage lava]

I think the Vault, showing everything like a memory, they created a version of the shrine that used to be Eden (probably for the king to comunicate with elders)

[hushed steeple]

That's what I was thinking!

[inland narwhal]

I think the Vault, showing everything like a memory, they created a version of the shrine that used to be Eden (probably for the king to comunicate with elders)
@sage lava probably a replica

[hushed steeple]

And so a part of vault might actually be destroyed!

Since its the closest to eden

[sage lava]

Thats why i think the big diamond of the Eden is were used to be the king throne/ castle

[hushed steeple]

Yeah

[gloomy stag]

Sanilhai, there is a part in the vault that looks like it was broken. But frozen in time somehow

....or something

[sage lava]

Brb

[hushed steeple]

@gloomy stag are you taking about one of the levels?

Also you can just call me Sani

[gloomy stag]

Alright.And its in the vault.Need two people to unlock the door

[hushed steeple]

You mean here?

Oh

[gloomy stag]

Wheres that?

[kind musk]

Vault archieves?

[gloomy stag]

Oh yeah.There

[hushed steeple]

@gloomy stag the first pic is when you're on the elevator in vault

[lyric isle]

I’ve been calling it the Library all this time

[gloomy stag]

The second pic is the place

[hushed steeple]

Oh ok

Yeah it seems frozen

[gloomy stag]

If we look behind us after entering, the shelf looks like something hit it and it froze

[hushed steeple]

What shelf?

[gloomy stag]

The thing behind us that looks like we walked from it

[hushed steeple]

Oh yeah

Maybe its is frozen, who knows

[gloomy stag]

So part of the vault is destroyed,just frozen somehow

[hushed steeple]

Maybe its frozen to contain those memories

Yeah

So they don't lose their history maybe

[gloomy stag]

I wonder how they froze it

[hushed steeple]

Spells maybe? They are seen using magic and powers

[gloomy stag]

Especially in the vault

[hushed steeple]

Yes

[kind musk]

Guys, the econg page of the pdf is DONE!

[gloomy stag]

Hi Kebby!

[kind musk]

Hi Chelzzz

[gloomy stag]

Can we see?

[kind musk]

Sure

[hushed steeple]

Yay!

[kind musk]

Just a spoiler

[frail hearth]

ay you're spanish too

[kind musk]

yap

You discover meh

[gloomy stag]

Nice going!Doing well kebby!

[hushed steeple]

Gj!

[kind musk]

Isn't is just me, is everyone in this channel

[hushed steeple]

[lyric isle]

random irrelevant thingy imma tempted to say that (as a Yiddish student in a dormant state towards it) the letter tsadi (called tsadek in Yiddish) has two forms - ץ צ

latter is when the letter is the last in the word

[kind musk]

Ysddish? O.O

[gloomy stag]

Krebby, whats the first thing you'll write about?(You dont have to answer)

[kind musk]

Ah, now that i finsh the glossary, i'll write some guides to new lore kids

Like material and things to know

[gloomy stag]

Ah,alright!

[hushed steeple]

I'm excited for it :)

[frail hearth]

lore moth doc would like to know your location

[kind musk]

y'all are the best boys :)*

[gentle sparrow]

I like the lore chat

And now the lurker goes b y e

[kind musk]

Guys, i've thinking about make two pages of material and guides, one with the official material (pins) and other with comentaries from here, like, for example, Piwi#2442: "Here goes a recomendation form piwi" this is a example obviously but what y'all think?

[hushed steeple]

seems cool!

[gloomy stag]

Yes!

Something to help the readers

[kind musk]

Nice! When i finished with it i'll sent you a message to enter in the pdf

[gloomy stag]

That would be great!Hope Im online though when you show it

[hushed steeple]

me too

[kind musk]

I'll try to be fast so you guys don't lost the oportunity

[gloomy stag]

Nah,take your time:)

[kind musk]

c'mon pc chargeeeeeeee

don't let me soo ;-;

[hushed steeple]

[kind musk]

It charged yay :D*

[hushed steeple]

nice :D

[gloomy stag]

[hushed steeple]

I'm going to sleep now goodnight all!

[kind musk]

good night!

I'll take a little break, i'll be back soon!

[gloomy stag]

Bye krebb

[vivid bluff]

hello guys

[velvet thunder]

Lmao it's been a wild day is it worth scrolling back to see what I missed or is there now like 1,000 unreads lmao

[vivid bluff]

I spent a good 10 minutes scrolling up just now ngl

[velvet thunder]

Oof let's go bois

[kind musk]

Okaydokay bois, im back

And you know what is with me?

The entries for a comment in the lore PDF 😄

Right now there are 7 spots

But it might change ;)*

Ping me and i'll be counting, don't post your coment yet

[sage lava]

I am back too. I am going to Eden in 30 minutes to look for clues :v

[kind musk]

c'mon!!!

[gloomy stag]

Krebb, Im kind of new so...what are the comments for?

[kind musk]

Your coment will apear in a section of the pdf special for coments

[gloomy stag]

Also how do you ping?

[kind musk]

@ name

[gloomy stag]

Ohh ok

Im that much of a moth here😌👌

[kind musk]

Ah somethng i didn't say, the coment might be a warning or a recomendation for someone who is new in lore

0/7 spots how sad :C

[gloomy stag]

@FlippedCreb

Like this?

[lethal stump]

no

[kind musk]

Ok, 1/7

I uderstant

so

well

[lethal stump]

when you do an @ you should see names pop up, click on one

[kind musk]

Wait a second pleasssss

Dont't ping yet

[gloomy stag]

Ok

And thanks Bricky,got it now:)

[kind musk]

<Ok im back ping now

1/7

No? Okay.....

Tell me your comment chelz

[gloomy stag]

Maybe when more people are on?

Oh ok

[kind musk]

i'll try again later

remember, the comment is for someone who is new in the lore, can be anything but..

[gloomy stag]

This book had lots of effort put into it.But before reading further,be aware that this may contain spoilers!Otherwise, please enjoy the pdf and I hope to see you in the skies!:) (May seem to informational maybe?)

[kind musk]

Ok, are you sure wanna send that? Will be exactly as you post.

[gloomy stag]

Not the brackets

[kind musk]

Lol ok

so, how i can name you? Discord tag and ID (Username#0000)

Discord tag (Username)

Or other custom name?

[gloomy stag]

Just my username right now:)

[kind musk]

Chelz_20?

[gloomy stag]

Yes

[kind musk]

Nice

[sage lava]

Can i send a comment too?

[gloomy stag]

Krebby, maybe you can get people from the 'promote sky content' part in discord?

[kind musk]

Sure Azure!

Krebby, maybe you can get people from the 'promote sky content' part in discord?
@gloomy stag Maybe idk

[sage lava]

Pls, use this pic:

[kind musk]

A picture? Hmm maybe only the text?

Discord is so slow :=

[sage lava]

"...you're gonna suffer, but you're gonna be happy about it"

[kind musk]

Exact

Ok

so, how i can name you? Discord tag and ID (Username#0000)
Discord tag (Username)
Or other custom name?

[sage lava]

I took that from a movie, use the movie name 😂

[kind musk]

2/7.. NICE!!!

Harry Potter says: LOL

[sage lava]

Let me go back to my Eden run 😂

Brb

[kind musk]

It will say Azure

-_-

[gloomy stag]

Bye Azure!Good luck!

[kindred belfry]

may I say something?

[kind musk]

Sure, give me a lil second!

[kindred belfry]

ok!

[kind musk]

Nice now tell me your comment, remember, it might be a warning or a recomendation for someone new in sky lore

can be anything buutttt

Samba????

[kindred belfry]

"be warned: once you start, YOU CAN'T STOP 🙂 "

[kind musk]

Oh nice

[kindred belfry]

with some kind of smiley at the end, either a : ) or the emoji

[kind musk]

Are you sure? Will be exactly as your post

[kindred belfry]

yes.

[kind musk]

Is errors and all

ok

[kindred belfry]

[kind musk]

How i can name you? discord tag and id, only discord tag or other custom name?

[kindred belfry]

samba

is fine'

[kind musk]

Okie

Now 3/7

The entries are now CLOSED. Not forever, them will be open again later, when more people is online and chatting. Cya!

I felt like kjtn closing the beta entries

[sacred rapids]

what is ^^ all this about

[sinful anvil]

(random thought so im wondering if alef has a dual personality, switching from a Serious Young Ruler then to a Pesky Child at the next moment)

[sacred rapids]

I completely believe that

[frail hearth]

probably

[lethal stump]

that’s just called being a 3 dimensional character

[sinful anvil]

(A: How is your kingdom going?)
(Samekh: Everyone’s perfectly happy. Wanna skate and slide down that ice-covered road?
A: Yes. And I’ll outpace you)

[sacred rapids]

yep sounds exactly like a character in the game that exists and doesn't

[sinful anvil]

(and heres the dilemma of hcing whether twins go easy on him cuz he’s the king but thats another story)

[lethal stump]

the prince was (somewhat) confirmed, Jouske

[sacred rapids]

so he's slightly more out of the void?

[lethal stump]

well, we know he’s part of the lore, that’s for one

[sacred rapids]

got it

will keep in mind

maybe

[lethal stump]

lemme find the quote

#lore-discussion-spoilers message

[sinful anvil]

hmm

[sacred rapids]

ah I see

[sinful anvil]

as leto of Dune once said, “a pearl of my consciousness in the prescient dream”, or something like that

i guess maybe thats how the prince is reincarnated as us

if reincarnated personalities is similar to original personality in a way, i deduce the prince may have his childlike times. maybw at some point he broke down in such a way that the elders just realized, oh

[short owl]

However it happned, it was a loooooong time in coming

[kind musk]

A little ask, the "Canon Confirmed by TGC" doc is free to use? Obviously giveng credits to the doc

[lethal stump]

yes, it’s there as a public resource

[kind musk]

Ok, thankyou

[kind musk]

This is ded

[kind musk]

Other lil spoiler of the resources page

[sly kestrel]

Can I say something about that second to last sentence

[kind musk]

Sure

[sly kestrel]

I think u interpreted the statement wrong
They were basically saying that the “temples” aren’t really temples at all
They weren’t there for worship and they aren’t some religious tribute to them
It was said that the places that are called “elder temples” are simply just places that had a lot of meaning to that certain elder

[kind musk]

Oh, i didn't write it

[sly kestrel]

In that doc ^
It’s saying that the elders aren’t in the temples and that’s not the message they were trying to make

[kind musk]

Oh

[sly kestrel]

They were trying to say that the so called temples aren’t rlly temples but places of important to the elder

[kind musk]

Tell me, i'll fix

Oh i understant, thanks you!

How i can write it? .-.

[sly kestrel]

Well uhhh

Idk who wrote that

So idk

[kind musk]

Was in the Canon Sky Lore

[lethal stump]

it’s just a copy-paste it seems

[kind musk]

Well, yes, i copy and paste but i read everything and i tried to understant

Im doing something wrong?

[gloomy stag]

Hello?

[frail hearth]

hi

[gloomy stag]

How you doing?

[severe notch]

Good

[frail hearth]

fine i guess idk i need sleep

[severe notch]

Where can I download LA? I wanted to see how it corresponded with cotl

[frail hearth]

let's get to lore stuffsvsgvddg

idk ask in #questions-and-help

[severe notch]

Ok thx

[gloomy stag]

Flipped Creb is making a lore pdf

[frail hearth]

yes

[gloomy stag]

I'll check around here later

[kind musk]

Okai guuuuuuuyss im back

im still workin on the pdf Chelzzzzzz

[livid valley]

hello

[gloomy stag]

Hey Krebby!Going well?

[kind musk]

Yep! I'll stop writing for today, i advanced a lot!

[gloomy stag]

Take your break krebb

Meanwhile,anything new we lore people can talk about?

[kind musk]

Tbh the channel was really dead all the day

[gloomy stag]

The first time I was here, it was pretty busy:/

[kind musk]

Not today

i think i kill it with my wonderful idea

[hushed steeple]

I got something, it's not a theory tho its a question

[gloomy stag]

Sure

[kind musk]

Tell usssssssss

[hushed steeple]

And it's been asked before but I just wanna bring it up again

[sage lava]

Eden done. New theory

[gloomy stag]

Yes Azure?And Sanilha

[hushed steeple]

What is this place?

[gloomy stag]

In the forest but...

[hushed steeple]

(Just call me sani)

[kind musk]

Hhmmmmmmmm

[hushed steeple]

Cause i looked at the temple of forest

[sage lava]

What is this place?
@hushed steeple
Looks like the prairie temple

[hushed steeple]

It doesn't look like it

[sinful anvil]

its in hidden forest

[hushed steeple]

And it also doesn't look like the prairie temple

[gloomy stag]

I think its the forest temple

[sage lava]

Oh yeah, thats right

[hushed steeple]

Look

[lethal stump]

there’s no confirmation what it is, it’s up to you

[hushed steeple]

Bottom two are temple and prairie

I know there's no confirmation but I was wonder what yalls ideas were

[sage lava]

Looks like cities in the sky, like that cave picture on isle

[kind musk]

maybe

[hushed steeple]

What cave picture?

[sage lava]

That one from the pointer spirit

Or on the intro cutscene

I dont remember now

[hushed steeple]

Oh

[kind musk]

Is in the pointing spirit cave

[hushed steeple]

This?

[gloomy stag]

Another question.Whats that top tower?

[kind musk]

Another question.Whats that top tower?
Eden or Vault

[sage lava]

This?
@hushed steeple
Yeah

[hushed steeple]

Idk whats at the top but it looks small so it can't be a temple

[kind musk]

14%

:c

[topaz girder]

what if it's that small building in the start of eden ?

before you go to the first rock area

[kind musk]

ya, something like

[sage lava]

Talking about the Eden, problably someone already said that, but its weird how there are no references on isle elder on the gates of Eden

[topaz girder]

many believe that isle elder was kicked out of the gang );

[gloomy stag]

Wow. 😦

[kind musk]

But it is in the.. in the vautl elder cutscene

right????

[sage lava]

That let me think something happened to him that made the others elders to seal the gates of Eden

[gloomy stag]

He went in maybe?

[sage lava]

Like, what if his "death" trigged the war?

[gloomy stag]

And didn't come back...

[kind musk]

How what DEATH?

There's something i'm not reading

._.

[topaz girder]

are you sure they died ??

[sage lava]

I think better to say the isle elder "fell into the darkness"

Cuz they cant die really

[kind musk]

Ah waaitt what?

[gloomy stag]

He just didn't return

[kind musk]

How we come here

[sage lava]

I am theorizing

[kind musk]

I seeeee

[gloomy stag]

So...The isle leader possibly went to eden and didnt return. That may have somehow triggered the war

I didnt know there was even a war

[sage lava]

I can imagine once a elder "fall in the darkness" they cant be contacted

I didnt know there was even a war
@gloomy stag
How so? There is a Battlefield in wasteland

[gloomy stag]

Oh..just didnt see it anywhere else:/

[sage lava]

In front of wasteland temple

[gloomy stag]

I remeber

Im just too forgetful

[sage lava]

Yeah, thats my theory

Maybe the missing of the isle elder trigged the war

[gloomy stag]

But how possibly?Maybe the elders bet each other to go in eden?

Then he offered but didnt come back?

IDK

[sage lava]

No, there are others theories Involved

[gloomy stag]

May I see?

[sage lava]

The corruption of the king

[gloomy stag]

🙂

[sage lava]

Look at pins messages

[hushed steeple]

I have a theory on that too

[sage lava]

Please, say it

[gloomy stag]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-SOY_5WrhQ2ftVZEM9VMBsz92-n_53kBzQoHKmY2-24 Found this in pins and it may help tell us why and how the war started

May need to scroll a lot

[lethal stump]

well, it’s theories, not necessarily « telling » but rather giving you ideas :3

[hushed steeple]

I think that maybe as their technology advanced (with the ambitions of the elder of eden) the isle elder thought that the technology might not be good. And so the isle elder and the eden elder had their disputes that led to the isle elder being injured (hence why his face/mask was broken) so that triggered a civil war. (We can see two different symbols on the weapons and sheilds at wasteland battle field, a star and diamond). So with all the corruption already done to the eden elder he decided to cut out the isle elder and made the gates to eden. Then they continued their technology and they went overboard and created a diamond that brought them to ruins. This ended the eden elder.

[gloomy stag]

Very close to what the doc had😳

[sage lava]

That would make sense with this picture

The rejection spirit

[gloomy stag]

He rejected a voyage or something

[sage lava]

I couldnt find explanation for that until now

[gloomy stag]

Pointing pilgrim,rejecting voyager, and the ushering migrant I think they're called in the game

[sage lava]

Oh yeah, let me explain that theory

I said earlier that every Spirit from constellation could represents some traits of each elder

[gloomy stag]

Good at leading/directing but can exclude people?IDK

[sage lava]

That could be rejection to an idea

Like about the use of the power diamonds

[gloomy stag]

The big one maybe?

The idea to upgrade civilization?

[sage lava]

That one made on the forest elder cutscene

[hushed steeple]

Yeah i had that theory for a while and I still hold onto it

Especially after looking at the details in the game and the docs in pins

I just wonder why they were thrown out of orbit in the first place.

[gloomy stag]

Maybe from the impact of the explosion of their big power diamond?

[hushed steeple]

I meant why they fell to the clouds in the first place. Cause the power diamond came after that

[gloomy stag]

Oh that

Still a new lore moth

[hushed steeple]

Its ok, I'm not judging or anything

[gloomy stag]

I know

[hushed steeple]

I just wanted to make sure ppl can understand what I'm saying

[sage lava]

No clues about that

About how they fell

[hushed steeple]

Yeah. Just that darkness came

Now you got me wondering about the spirits in each constellation

[gloomy stag]

Oop. Got to go.Bye guys!

[hushed steeple]

Byee

Also is the friendship constellation the same as the elder of eden?

It looks slightly different but I'm just wondering the significance of that

[sage lava]

No idea. :S

[sinful anvil]

is prince hc related to lore discussion

[hushed steeple]

Also i can see why diamonds were used as a source of power

[lethal stump]

idk, Pale

[sinful anvil]

h

[hushed steeple]

Idk, I think any discussion about the lore is allowed

[lethal stump]

i think #sky-fanart-sketches-and-art-chat would enjoy it a bit more

[hushed steeple]

Yeah prob

[lethal stump]

but i guess it could count as lore ???

[sinful anvil]

ive posted it there

& its crickets

[hushed steeple]

Anyways so diamonds they reflect light. So it makes sense why they use diamonds in the technology, because sky revolves around the use of light.

[lethal stump]

thats
not how power diamonds work

[hushed steeple]

Well im not saying that the power diamonds reflect light, im just saying that diamonds do correlate with light

[lethal stump]

ah

[sage lava]

Maybe they have many uses for the power diamonds

[hushed steeple]

Yeah

So I can see why tgc used diamonds in the game

And also clouds reflect light, so that might also explain why clouds recharge our winged light

[sage lava]

Cool!

[hushed steeple]

Since the world of sky revolves around the use of light. So dimonds, clouds and even fire have their uses.

[sage lava]

I go to go sleep for now, nice to talk with you all. Cya o/

[hushed steeple]

gn!

[tender dune]

Yes

U also see that same golden diamond mold thing on the right and left of this place

((Same with gw but gw has 3))

[pale kestrel]

Like the spinny things in prairie

[tender dune]

A better angle

Like the spinny things in prairie
Yeah the spinning prayer bells needed us to light the white candles to activate them (to call light creatures). The temple needed meditation to activate this factory ((forest temple is a power diamond making factory))

This is in gw first krill area compared to forest temple. GW has an extra diamond mold producing spot (total 3) while forest only has 2

[wet talon]

Can someone tell me about the corrupted prince-

[cosmic ember]

Where can i find a lore to the wasteland

Its back story

[tender dune]

We dont really have a solid backstory of wasteland. The info you'll find is in the canon doc in the pins. All we have here are theories based on our observations

[cosmic ember]

Ok

Ill have a look

[hushed steeple]

What kind of lore are we going to get in new season?

[cosmic ember]

Thanks

Someone said its the origins of the realms

[tender dune]

Can someone tell me about the corrupted prince-
Tbh its not my expertise Bricky or the others have better experience about it

[lyric prism]

what is the corrupted prince-

[tender dune]

When he's online you can ask him

Hello new Lore Moff!
Read this short document to get started! Once you’ve read this, check out pins for more information.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto

Credits to Bricky for making this

[lyric prism]

ty

[tender dune]

Good place to start at

[sinful anvil]

Hello there. I noticed that before we meditate in Forest temple, the big circle thing above is not gold
@hushed steeple thats what ive been saying at occassions for all these times. teth took ur light partially bc shes a jerk but also to bring you to the next level, and shes impatient about it

shes not alone. isle elder commanded birds and the double door opens and reveals the birds (and then sky logo yknow). ayin traps the butterfly and puts this heavy jar on the altar and thats how u go to forest social space. all the elders take ur light to help u pass

ofc the next realms dont make sense but idc

im sure this is prearranged

[tender dune]

Probs

[sinful anvil]

teth be like “i need to pass you over so stop slacking off, kid”

[faint warren]

That actually makes sense

[tender dune]

I wonder if the flame we give the elders in the cutscene is different from other flames

[sinful anvil]

where did we produce the flames in the first place

[tender dune]

We give out 6 flames in total

[sinful anvil]

also the way valley twins yeeted up- i thoight they misused the flame but turns out everything turned out fine???
i suspect the twins want to do that all along and its just them fighting who gets to do the deed first
im so confused on that one

[tender dune]

Yeah valley has always been confusing

[faint warren]

I like to think that flame is our own, like it represents us lighting up the elders like we light up other people, and that it doesn't really go away when we "give it" to the elders. Idk I might be super wrong

[sinful anvil]

and ik the resolution isnt well but when i looked down when the flame’s yeeted its like kakashi is just in a casual stance w his paddle down and dora is looking up but not like “look what you’ve done”
so its like kakashi is smug and dora is like smh fine, like they didnt cause that much damage

in light awaits teth actually uses the flame to lift the diamond to reveal the next level

[hushed steeple]

I thought that the light was infinite in the beginning so is the light still infinite or naw

[tender dune]

Yep pale. They're the only ones who yeeted their flame up instead of taking it to use for other things

[faint warren]

what if Teth uses that diamond the same way in Light Awaits but it isn't as clear

[sinful anvil]

but yeeting it seems to have no other effect but the same one: passing you to next level

[tender dune]

The light was infinite but darkness came and the stars fell

[sinful anvil]

if teth uses the light to operate the stuff in the ceiling that means lamed has a different objective in mind when she lets us yeet the diamond

[tender dune]

From the pins (not sure if the wording changed or not though)

[hushed steeple]

I thought that the anscestors were sending the light to the main palace

Aka eden

[tender dune]

I dont think the ancestors had the power to move light like us its a nice theory tho

[steady token]

I think this message was from king/prince because it says "if only they had listened)so maybe the elders were in disagreement with prince/king

[tender dune]

Could be

[hushed steeple]

Well in prairie there was the dude that had a staff and was moving the light into the containers

[steady token]

Yeh

[tender dune]

But also. In the intro video we see that the first to lose light was the prince/king. Then the elders fell and he followed in falling

Well in prairie there was the dude that had a staff and was moving the light into the containers
True dat

[steady token]

The eden elder was probably the first sky kid that got corrupted and created darkness so now he calls on to us because it says bring(our lost stars home) we could be the same species

Since were different from the elders

Idk this kinda sounds dumb

[tender dune]

Nah its a nice theory

[hushed steeple]

Yeah the one sitting and cleaning a fast spinning tower thingy

[steady token]

The eden elder?

[tender dune]

Except in canon doc it says "the eden elder isn't around to be saved anymore". So it could be his last wish

[steady token]

:0

[tender dune]

There are many theories about the prince and king

[steady token]

Yep

[tender dune]

Some say they're good some say they're bad. Some say prince = king some say they're different people

[steady token]

If they were different what part would they each play in the story?

1 is the eden elder and the other is???

[tender dune]

Unsure. What are your thoughts?

[bitter shale]

45 minutes until exam, wish me luck

dont worry, i have prepared enough

sorry, i mena minute

[steady token]

They're both very important in the lore if they're not the same person right?

[hushed steeple]

Good luck

[bitter shale]

my best guess : the king is eden elder and the prince is skid?

[tender dune]

My own personal theories are of the king being non-existent (a false figure) and other theories thats why atm i can't think of them being different people my brain is dead atm hahaha

[steady token]

Same

Skids are sky kids right?

Ok :3

[bitter shale]

i mean, some concept art of the prince have the familiar design with skid ._.

well i mean that can be the case

[tender dune]

Prince is the only one in concept art who is the same size as us (everyone else is big. Biggest is king)

[steady token]

They're capeless

[bitter shale]

the prince did wear some kind of cape

[steady token]

What if king was the first elder

[bitter shale]

but its more familiar with the carpet dude from journey

[kind bobcat]

He didnt wear a cape, he wore a p o n c h o

[bitter shale]

carpet

[hushed steeple]

Hey wasnt there a line somewhere that says darkness blingds us so i cast it away

[bitter shale]

imagine if we have poncho in sky tho

[scarlet stag]

Ohh

[kind bobcat]

Hey wasnt there a line somewhere that says darkness blingds us so i cast it away
@hushed steeple old intro cutscene

It's placeholder text

[hushed steeple]

Oh

[bitter shale]

but the darkness blind, and soon the stars fell

[kind bobcat]

internal crying

[hushed steeple]

So the stars fell cause the darkness was cast away?

[steady token]

You can't have light without darkness

I have so many questions

[scarlet stag]

And without darkness their won't be light

[kind bobcat]

The new prompt says "But then darkness came, and the stars fell"

[steady token]

Yeh

[bitter shale]

i think once everything was balanced, light and dark. but then darkness become stronger and overpowering the light?

[kind bobcat]

here is where stuff gets interesting

The darkness mentioned in that line is vague, we don't know if it's a metaphorical or literal darkness

[steady token]

What cause the wasteland elder to go to war?

Caused*

[kind bobcat]

some say the "darkness" is the prince/king, some say it's corruption

[scarlet stag]

The elders, specifically the elder of Wasteland tried to fight off the darkness, being Krill

[hushed steeple]

What if the darkness was a part of the king/prince or king or prince

[steady token]

Oh

[scarlet stag]

But only one survived

[kind bobcat]

We don't know who the wasteland elder's enemies were.

[scarlet stag]

On the Battlefield there are elder spears and shields on the ground

[tender dune]

GW some theorize he's fighting dark creatures but most observations we see is signs of a civil war tbh (we see diamond vs sun shield people). We also see GW elder with a diamond shield in vault mural + home constellation BUT sun shield in the cutscene

[scarlet stag]

It makes sense because the elder we meet on the temple in tired and a bit weak

[kind bobcat]

a notable theory is that a civil war happened there over power diamonds.

[hushed steeple]

Maybe darkness was originally a metaphor for greed or something, but with some magic involved it manifested into an actual dark corruption

[steady token]

:0

[tender dune]

I gtg to have fun theorizing

[scarlet stag]

Okay bye bye

[steady token]

Prince coulve been the darkness/greed

[scarlet stag]

Ohh

[steady token]

Could've*

[hushed steeple]

Hmmm

[kind bobcat]

Darkness may have coexisted with light creatures and the ancestors far before the elders fell.

[hushed steeple]

Yeah

[scarlet stag]

Yea

[hushed steeple]

Because darkness is only the absence of light

Its not a thing of its own

And we are children of the light

[steady token]

That makes sense

[scarlet stag]

It exists with ligh

Light

[bitter shale]

but the darkness blind, and soon the stars fell
okay, this line got me thinkin

what if the stars fell on purpose?

the darkness become too strong, so the stars fell to find a way to bring back the balance?

maybe they developing the diamonds to get strong source of light?

I HATE MY INTERNET

[round river]

Do we have all shield position in battlefield?
There might be some clue which one is with wasteland elder and which one is not

[bitter shale]

okay my internet is fine now

[scarlet stag]

Probably

I don't know the exact positions of the weapons

[steady token]

So they retreated for a bigger plan?

[bitter shale]

mhm, yea

[scarlet stag]

There's two directly by the stairs to the temple

Spears I mean

[bitter shale]

since only starlights wont be enough to overpower darkness, so they in search of light on earth

[scarlet stag]

The shields are scattered around the field

Im pretty sure one shield is by the meditation thingy

[scarlet stag]

It's half way in the ground

Another is in the temple

[bitter shale]

this is teh only pics i got now

[kind bobcat]

okay, this line got me thinkin

what if the stars fell on purpose?

the darkness become too strong, so the stars fell to find a way to bring back the balance?

maybe they developing the diamonds to get strong source of light?
Well, some of us thought the Forest Elder invented the power diamonds, so it could've been unlikely for the power diamonds to be the cause of the stars falling

[bitter shale]

i cant open sky until exam finished... which is, 2 hours from now

[kind bobcat]

And note that the stars are the elders.

[bitter shale]

Well, some of us thought the Forest Elder invented the power diamonds, so it could've been unlikely for the power diamonds to be the cause of the stars falling
yea, thats why im thinkin they developing diamonds to create more light

[scarlet stag]

I thought they were the ancestors

[round river]

i cant open sky until exam finished... which is, 2 hours from now
Good luck

[bitter shale]

nah nah, ancestors and elder are different

[scarlet stag]

I know

[kind bobcat]

The ancestors have been on the surface before the elders fell.

[scarlet stag]

The stars are ancestors

[kind bobcat]

No, the stars are the elders.

[bitter shale]

ancestors are earth dwellers

dwellers.. roamers... idk the word lol

[scarlet stag]

Yea that's what I mean, I thought the elders were here before the ancestors

[bitter shale]

ngl i was thinking the same

[kind bobcat]

It's the other way around

[scarlet stag]

The stars fell bringing ancestors

[kind bobcat]

The ancestors were here far before the elders

[scarlet stag]

Ohh

Okay

[kind bobcat]

They worshipped the stars until one day the stars fell

[scarlet stag]

Makes sense

[kind bobcat]

And the stars became the elders (?)

[scarlet stag]

Yea

[bitter shale]

think it like this

stars are created before earth. earth are created with ancestors who are worshipped stars. one day, the stars fell and become elders on earth, roaming along with the ancestors

tldr, ancestors are longer on earth than the stars/elders

okay thats somehow become even more confusing

think like the elders are gods that roaming earth, like in rick riordan's books

[scarlet stag]

Several stars fell and became elders, which is why there are so many elders

So Demi-Gods?

@bitter shale

[bitter shale]

more like, gods that got physical bodies

[scarlet stag]

Or Perseus

[bitter shale]

like what happened to apollo in rick riordan's trial of apollo

[scarlet stag]

Yea okay

[bitter shale]

he got casted away from olymphus and become god trapped in human body, soemthing like that ._.

its been a while since i reda taht book lol

i might forgotten some

[scarlet stag]

Yea. So elders are god-like being in mortal bodies

[bitter shale]

in theory, yes

[scarlet stag]

And the ancestors?

What are they?

Celestial? Divine ?

[bitter shale]

earth people

the one who worshipped star

[scarlet stag]

Oh

[steady token]

I think the ancestors are observers above the clouds

[scarlet stag]

What do you mean

[steady token]

They called us because they saw what happened?

With the elders

[bitter shale]

hum, thats interesting

[steady token]

The elders are only called elders because they're old I'm sure they haven't been old forever

[scarlet stag]

Oohh maybe they were once skidss

[steady token]

Yeah

The first 7 to complete yk

[hushed sable]

I think there's offical lore that might say the elders have always been the way they are

[faint warren]

Yeah there is

And is think is confirmed the sky kids will never grow up to be elders

[steady token]

When we see the isle elder he looks tired and old I'm sure he was young before and it's been a long time since darkness has fallen

[scarlet stag]

Ph

Ph

Oh

[hushed sable]

Different "species"

[idle pewter]

Sorry for getting in the conversation 😅 but at the end of the Vault cutscene, there’s a contelation where all the spirits are at. So all the maps appear and then it’s Eden. Looks like there’s a constellation spirit/elderthere or something. Anyone know who it may be?

[scarlet stag]

Isle was the first so it makes since as to why he is tired

[bitter shale]

And is think is confirmed the sky kids will never grow up to be elders
this is where my sky au might be in danger

[hushed sable]

King

[bitter shale]

birth is tiring-

[hushed sable]

I think it refers to the king

[idle pewter]

King? :0

[steady token]

It's been a long time since darkness has fallen which is why the spirits which were living in civilization are all (idk how to explain this) ashy

They're moldy

[scarlet stag]

Read above

[hushed sable]

He's not an expecit character but his marks and influences are everywhere

[steady token]

Who me?

[bitter shale]

lmao what

[scarlet stag]

No

[steady token]

Ok

[scarlet stag]

@idle pewter read above to understand what we are talking about

[bitter shale]

whoever made this hole didnt know the concept of an entrance

[hushed sable]

They're moldy
@steady token I love this

[scarlet stag]

Wow

Where is this

[bitter shale]

vault

[steady token]

Secret room in vault

[scarlet stag]

The office

[steady token]

No the 2 door thing

[bitter shale]

nah its different

[scarlet stag]

Oh

[faint warren]

No is not the office

[bitter shale]

office and that hole is different

[steady token]

Someone dug a tunnel 0.0

[faint warren]

Is the 2 player door area where you go to the tunnel to exit the """laberinth"""

[hushed sable]

The exit to that area has a similar hole

Looks dug

[bitter shale]

i find this pond interesting

and giving me lags aaa

[hushed sable]

I think there was something breaking in to steal

[scarlet stag]

Yea I know that one but not this one

[steady token]

Omg

[hushed sable]

The pond is orbit

[steady token]

They could've stores diamonds there

[bitter shale]

we can notice that boat there...

[steady token]

Stored*

[bitter shale]

i think megan is like a collection of divine beings/stars?

[hushed sable]

Ark!!!

[scarlet stag]

Woah

[steady token]

Does the office have anything to do with the lore?

[scarlet stag]

No

[hushed sable]

No

[waxen elbow]

Nah

[hushed steeple]

Hi anyone here saw the new writings on beta?

[faint warren]

When you guys say Megan you refer to Megabird?
Edit: Oki thx

[hushed sable]

No beta here

[scarlet stag]

It's just an Easter egg

[bitter shale]

oaky i gotta go now see ya all in 2 more hours

[hushed sable]

No discussion from beta

[hushed steeple]

Ohh sorry

[hushed sable]

I'm so hyped tho for it

[scarlet stag]

@bitter shale Good luck

[hushed steeple]

Erm can I spoil a lil bit?

[hushed sable]

No

[scarlet stag]

Nah nope

This is more only

[bitter shale]

if you interested, read my theory of prophecy here

dont worry, these still based on teaser so no beta content yet

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1y01HbfEh5xlxRr7vSCtZfQtJd8VeU-thxzhcYYK3or4/edit?usp=drivesdk

[scarlet stag]

Lore

[hushed steeple]

Oh man I'm itching to talk about new beta stuff.....

It's about the 'king' tho, maybe I'll tell my story if it came out on Live

Sorry again

[bitter shale]

@hushed steeple you might wanna write it on a doc so you wont forget about it when it went live

[steady token]

Yeah

[hushed steeple]

Don't say it, if they wanna know they can go to beta channels. Don't spoil it 😌
But I know how you feel

Just wanna share aaaaaaah

[steady token]

Ikr

[hushed steeple]

Yea

[steady token]

I accidentally shared but I deleted it😌

[scarlet stag]

Close

[steady token]

Well

Goodbye for now

[scarlet stag]

Same here

[steady token]

[hushed steeple]

Byeee

[scarlet stag]

GoodBye, Au Revoir, Adiós

[hushed steeple]

Auf Wiedersehen

[sinful anvil]

https://twitter.com/GwalTack/status/1276562196449771520?s=20 U H M

[hushed steeple]

Yeah we were talking about this earlier

Wonder what that detail means

[sinful anvil]

wait what?? i didnt scroll up to see the topic

[hushed steeple]

Oh, yeah

We also noticed how the Dora haired twin is usually on the right

The towers for the sliding race are also like that
One's complete, the other... Well, not so complete

Oh, regarding those things in the background (idk how to call them ;;;)

This ones

Oh

[sinful anvil]

dora just standing there somehow looks so cute

[hushed steeple]

Like, what exactly are they?

[sinful anvil]

like •_ •

[hushed steeple]

They look like engravings

They're implied to contain knowledge (I think)

Or som

Yeah it is vault of knowledge

Nono, the squarish thing

Ohh

Yes

I think someone made a doc of that? Idk let me find it

idk, they seem kinda empty to me

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/733430474260873361/733786634583277739/Screenshot_20200717-140626_Discord.jpg

I dont remember what this was but I found it

Thx Sanil but it's the other squarish thing

Omg lol I'm sorry

Interesting, tho

Ye

I meant the weird rhomboid things lol

Are they lanterns, tho?

I wouldn't be too sure

Oh yes

They contain memories I believe

Knowledge

Ooh, I didn't know

Thx

Do you think the skykids die selflessly because the elder of eden died selfishly?

Just a thought

Noom those floating lanterns you've sent were something special for ancestors

Lemme find pics

Do you think the skykids die selflessly because the elder of eden died selfishly?
Seen from that point of view, it'd balance things for Megan

Yup, ik. The telekinesis spirit
tried to take a picture of it today and failed miserably

I think those have some secret function besides those knowledge lanterns

So you know how some of sky was inspired by religions or something

You can see those lanterns are floating in a big amount at the starting of 3rd level ... So what i think is those are the lanterns that makes a dream like atmosphere from vault's 3rd level

Could that include daoism?

Like yin and yang, the philosophy of balance

In many communities (old ones), they also had a way to store knowledge and only the priests/royalty/knowledgeable people knew how to read/interpret them

Take, for example, Egypt

The Mayans are also one of those

So, presumably we just don't know how to read them but the knowledge is there

Like yin and yang, the philosophy of balance
I'd say yes, but we should also take other religions and cultures into account

Yes

You know the story is kinda matches with Bible

Also yes

the story kinda matches with most religions tbh

No no its ok

Lol, me too

Go ahead

No no, you're all good

Go on

I think Boop's is more fleshed out, tho
I need to yet write it all down and connect the dots

I write down everything I see from this chat

And I organized documents so I can look back

That's actually a pro gamer move

Lol its pretty easy when you find most of the stuff in pins

I just write the rest from what we talk about in here. Sometimes you find interesting observations

Oo that's a good one

Writing that down rn ✍️

Also we don't really see vault from the outside

We barely see what looks like the top right before the entrance of eden

This is where we come out of right before we enter eden, but from the murals it looks so much taller

So where's the rest?

hmmm

I'm still intrigued by that weird thing on top of the ceiling

In vault?

Yea

Look at the pic

Oh yes

It looks like the diamond symbol

Kinda like

Where was it hinted, Boop?

I think you copy it? Idk I'm pretty new to disc

Oh! Thank you

Ah, yes I thought it was more in depth but tyy

I haven't been able to find anything else

Ah, could be, yeah

The gates to valley also have this symbol overlapped with many other diamonds

I should investigate what the symbols represent

definitely

The ones in home??
@hushed steeple I think that the one in home have the symbol too but i was talking about the race gates

Ok so the shape is a diamond?

Oh, thx

You can actually see it in the pic Boop sent

[kind bobcat]

I put together this timeline of the Sky Kingdom's major events in chronological order according to several theories, anything you guys think i should add in?
( Keep in mind that the length of the visuals do not represent the duration of time, only to present the events in chronological order )

You can get a higher quality on mobile by downloading the image

[hushed steeple]

Oh wow that's good!

[stone crater]

Interesting

[hushed steeple]

People also believe there might have been a war but, since there was a battle field in wl

[kind bobcat]

Thanks
also i forgot that the diamond still exist today

[hushed steeple]

But im sure if you should add that since its a theory

[kind bobcat]

Yeah, go ahead.

[hushed steeple]

I think it's pretty complete tbh

[kind bobcat]

I was gonna add the war but i'm not sure when did it start.

[hushed steeple]

nor against whomst

[kind bobcat]

I'm pretty sure it's after the king was crowned.

since there are broken king statues in the battlefield and graveyard

[hushed steeple]

Was it against the dark creatures? Was it between two sides of the kingdom with opposing ideals?

[kind bobcat]

Who knows

[hushed steeple]

Perhaps the dark creatures we know of rn, yes

[kind bobcat]

Maybe they had bigger crabs back then.

[hushed steeple]

King crabs

Exactly, barricades stop the enemy or whatever from entering

The barricades were mostly seen at the wl temple entrance

[kind bobcat]

The idea of a civil war is intriguing.

[hushed steeple]

So what or who was trying to invade?

Yeah

Especially since we see two symbols on the sheilds

This is uncharted territory we're heading towards there's so little info about it

One circle star thingy, and a diamond

[timber tapir]

people for the construction of the power diamonds and people against it

[kind bobcat]

The sun and diamond faction theory along with the evidence around battlefield supports the civil war theory

Although the vault mural doesnt show any opposing force in it

[hushed steeple]

AH, you can actually find sunburst shields in eden

Could be one side was for the king, the approval of advanced diamond tech, and the other was natural balance of light from a possible rebellion

Oh thats in eden right?

Yup

[odd dew]

I thought before that maybe the battle might have been between eden and gw

Maybe this evidence may somewhat support the theory?

[hushed steeple]

I also noticed how the only elder not on the eden gate is the isle, so what happened to him?

Maybe he guided the rebels which led to his injury?

Isle elder seems to be like a black sheep ;;

Removed from eden's door, broken mask, and sent the farthest from eden

[fossil oxide]

hmm yeah

[odd dew]

Someone then mentioned that, if the war was indeed between eden and gw, then the krills were sent by eden to attack gw.

This thought has been living in my mind rent free, and reading the current discussion is only fueling my beliefs of the the possibility

[hushed steeple]

He also seems to have very ancient structures?

Like his shrine is more choppy, unlike the others which are clean cut

and if you take into account the big table in vault, there's one chair that's flipped over, so there's that

[odd dew]

Ah