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Elders are like phones that need to be charged, but are still somehow functional
/official answer thank you next question please
i just say they are aliven't and deadn't
breathn't
looool
heren't
i just say they are aliven't and deadn't
/this too
Elders don't exist at all > /this too
@gilded fossil
I do think they have died, but their soul is just lost
I personally believe the elders are in a limbo state, they're not alive nor they are dead, and they're stuck outside of time and space.
Oh like they are in coma?
im back did I miss any more galaxy brain plays
No, as in they're aliven't and deadn't
They're not dead
But they're not alive either
they just exist
Do you all discuss the lore about sky 24/7?
like ghost?
Although at some point i think they were alive, according to the vault murals 
Elders' interactions with ancestors
elders rn are existn't
I mean, that is the purpose of this chat
Basically everyone here
Do you all discuss the lore about sky 24/7?
/no we discuss about reak lore 4/7, the other 20 hours are for crackpot lore(oops)
Not really 24/7 though, we still respect our mandatory sleep, or skybot's gonna take our kneecaps.
/ sneep sky bot where are you

My take is, Elders are star spirits. They are neither dead or alive
elders exist in a seperate pocket dimension that we can only access by meditating at their nexus point
/ i wanna stab an elder and see if anything happens now
Unlike ancestors who once have physicals bodies, Elders are always be spirit
My headcannon is everything was just a dream
Anyone thinking abt what kind of material used in our skykid cosmetics?
My headcanon is all of
capes are wool-
Of a sky kid
/ i wanna stab an elder and see if anything happens now
@gilded fossil i can tell you that theyre walk-throughable
sanctuary capes are probably synthetic cotton
Anyone thinking abt what kind of material used in our skykid cosmetics?
My headcanon is all ofcapes are wool-
/manta capes are made of real mantas
Well, Sky kids use light-
but all the cosmetics are solid light so 
But the actual Ancestors? Well, that's debatable
yeah but it's still fun to think abt it 
But the actual Ancestors? Well, that's debatable
/ancestors are made out of chocolate
I-
/yes
rhythm is definitely wool for the fur cape and the opal is probably like, synthetic leather?
Chocolate is made from a plant
/ paper
laminated paper yes
/ change my mind
i think
are fur, and
is raincoat
I mean
If there are darkness plants ,are there any light plants?
If there are darkness plants ,are there any light plants?
/floaty mushrooms in forest tho?
the light "plants" are butterfies
Yeah
What about the bonsai tree in vault?
That represents Forest, maybe
/yea that's fake and stuff
/guys what are the clothes we're given from the start made of?
/cotton?
Looks like silk-
Does cotton even exist in sky?
/mochii no do not steal haha
/i mean you can if you want lol :VVV
okie dokie 
The clothes the Skid wears seems really comfortable
What if they're made of clouds 
/ooo yes

Interesting...
/they weave clouds
They use Oreo's shedded fur to make capes
Cloud silk?
dream material
/guys we see no sheeep in game where does belong cape come from?
The clouds can store the candle that they hold cause its like airy
Maybe there were land animals, but not in the area where the Sky Kingdom was built
Imported 
It's not just a matter of capes, its all clothing in general
/they shed oreo then
Maybe the other species were wiped out after the destruction in Eden
They traded with other places maybe ? Like trading those energy diamonds to get resources
And now we just use leftover clothes or whatever
Or died out over time. It was a very long time since Eden exploded to when we awaken
They traded with other places maybe ? Like trading those energy diamonds to get resources
/ah yes capitalism
We Literally Steal Clothes From Spirits
Only pants
Same difference
The cape comes free with the first winged light we see in isle .
Steal but with consent
Mainly pants
I’m just going with the fact the clothes don’t shadows
/i have theory that the beard by isle elder is fake because he can mass produce them
Do clouds have shadows ? Dense ones do right
I-
i think the clothes are just made out of light
Same
Who gives skids haircuts?
"This upcoming Season will lean heavily into the backstory of the kingdom by presenting an origin story. Players will embark on an invitation to explore the forgotten Cave of Prophecies in the Isle of Dawn.This eerie new area will reveal ancient mysteries around the group of Ancestor Spirits you encounter, as they introduce new gameplay challenges and collaborations. Here, you will discover the Prophecy Season Guide and Four Prophets who have longed to meet you "
Source- thatskygame.com
This has a lot of Messages

/eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey
Lore chat will be fed well
What's Traveling next?
we dont know, questions like this arent really lore relatedbetter ask them next time in #questions-and-help or #general-sky-discussion
Who gives skids haircuts?
@heavy eagle
Probably they are bald and wear a wig.
/ i wouldnt like to see lore chat with cool down
/with the new season and backstories and 4 prophets and stuff lore chat is gonna have a 1 hour cool down
/i had theory that there is only 1 prophet tho
Thinking abt all the solo players and how they might have a hard time w the collaborations
/time to scrap theory
Thinking abt all the solo players and how they might have a hard time w the collaborations
/well, maybe sth that encourage collabing,
/the *angry spirit in Sanctuary for example
Luckily, I just recently got an irl friend to finally become friends in game-
/you don't need 2 people to complete it, but it is preferable
Made this composition, what do you think?
She played a year before I did, but only for sometime, she never went through Eden. So she's kinda like a Moth, but not at the same time-
Made this composition, what do you think?
@dense umbra I think it's no coincidence that the Cyan Light is in Prairie and the Orange Light is in Forest.
Yeah
If the forest trees were burnt why do we still see them
They weren't burnt
Its a visual representation of what the Orange Light represents; the Flame
Question, how did the mantas in forest get stuck in the darkness plants? Of course they grow back if you don't burn them completely so... Did someone burn it partly, wait for a manta to fly in, and then trap them? 
/they look like they were chopped
The clouds are probably the leaves of the trees-
Maybe that's just the general tree symbol & the trees used to exist somewhere else we didn't know about
The trees do not have leaves. I flew up to the top in Sunny Forest (before you jump down the hole) and they're just... Tubes...
/the first mural on the left looks like the king with diamond shields
There were bare ones too so idk about that. I did think the cloud canopy was leaves but it just seems odd
question, do you guys consider the cyan light part of isle or prairie
Question, how did the mantas in forest get stuck in the darkness plants? Of course they grow back if you don't burn them completely so... Did someone burn it partly, wait for a manta to fly in, and then trap them?
@agile sun
Kind off like a Venus fly trap
question, do you guys consider the cyan light part of isle or prairie
Isle
Imagine dark plants actively trying to murder poor innocent skykids.
Our light is too strong for them though
So I theorize
Like those vines in stories where they'd attempt to suffocate you ?
Not for Mantas tho 
So you know how krill are stronk
Reminds me of this irl plant XD
"what you got there?"
"A KNIFE"
"N O"
I think that krill are pure dark water
Krill are ice cubes of darkness--
I think that krill are pure dark water
/like the water got too dark and they condensed into a krill???
They melt and thats why they drip darkness
/oh, so ancestors arent chocolate, krills are !!!!!
Come to think of it, dark plants are actually in the same shape as Venus Fly Traps...
Krills have mechanical sound and strong wind around them
Like a helicopter?
Players are told that the Spirits now yearn for Cyan Light, and that it ‘lingers among the early gusts of wind’.
Players are told that the Spirits now cry for Orange Light, and that ‘they offer warmth in times of cold’.
- the sky wiki bc i csnt memorise anything
/like the water got too dark and they condensed into a krill???
@gilded fossil
Yeah like that
Dark plant look more like mushroom
Hey I know I’m probably changing the topic here but like
you ever think about how the light symbol and the season of prophecy symbol look the same- 
From thw seaon of enchantment baybee
What
IT DOES
I haven't seen the season due to beta glitch
no that's the king propaganda
Prince👀
/it's the king
surprised no one has mentioned it lol
/although, beta stuff stays in beta channels!
we did, just before 
Someone mentioned up top👆
oh oops sorry 
So krill are mostly blind
That what's krill want you to think
its ok hahah, new season stuff keeps repeating (the cave doodles, the symbol. the statues in the teaser) 
So when a krill is over you they drip dark watee
Ans krill come from under the lake of dark water
Would krill feel hard or squishy if they are condensed dark water
good morning y'all
what's going on this morning?
This causes me to believe krill are actually just condensed dark water
Isn't one of the came out from sand?
praire temple has moss 
second picture is there to show it's not lighting from the lantern
I discussed with my ex if they are crunchy or not
i dont think its dark water? we see krill, crabs and the dark plants have that corruption dust (we also see the dust particles in eden)
And we agreed that they are the same as happy hippos by kinder
no one said good morning back
Dark crabs are enjoying
oh and we have that dark dust particle when we get hit by rocks in eden
Those pipes in wastland are still kind-of a mystery to me they lead all the way to eden
No wonder why theres alot if water in the wasteland
Does that mean there are theoretically pipes on the outside of Vault from GW to Eden
oh fun theory question 
do you think the pipes are going to eden, or are the coming from eden? :3
Could be both
But the real question is
A two way system
coming from eden, gw gets its darkness from eden
You think those pips leaked polluted water that killed all light creatures life in wastland?, 😅
Where does it start and end
Almost all life
Those pipe are to cool eden diamond... But it failed and eden exploded
There's less dark water in Eden
Eden is polluted
Just like a irl nuclear disaster happen
all levels be polluted with those bOATS
HDUDHD BOATS
here's some food for thought
Those pipe are to cool eden diamond... But it failed and eden exploded
/human fault
THE BOATS
how are there pipes from wasteland to eden, but vault is fine?
no one:
Eden: did someone say BOOM
The boats exist to protect us from the polution
how are there pipes from wasteland to eden, but vault is fine?
@mellow sable nnnot completely fine, we have crabs...
the pipes dont go in vault, they go around vault
I think the vault Is almost untouched
in a side area added in the third season
how are there pipes from wasteland to eden, but vault is fine?
@mellow sable vault is in a secured tower 👁️👄👁️ thats why theres reset and wind barriers if you oob too far out-
The sacred area
how are there pipes from wasteland to eden, but vault is fine?
/vault is not fine vault is the realm that is tall instead of sideways
you can see it in battlefield, pipes are on the right side when u reach the temple
Vault does have some water tho right?
The vault is a ladder
belonging got really trigger happy with crabs 
It goes up
Vault doesn't have water
in archives it has water but i think its because of a leak
every new area in belonging except isle and forest has crabs
In the flooded thingy
even in 
At least not in the elevator
Maybe a pipe w clean water leaked
I hope the boats for this event are biodegradable so we don't pollute the water even more
Vault is lucky 😔
is it? 
Dude the boat are stone
theory : King wanted to still rule that dark place thought he could handle it made up a canal/pipes system to process that water & to be safely transfered but it unded up with a desaster
vault is a dream
Aka propaganda 😁
in the archives I think memory juice spilled out of lanterns
I hope the boats for this event are biodegradable so we don't pollute the water even more
Late but they're paper boats, I imagine they already disintegrated
Dude the boat are stone
I'm talking about the ones for this event not the ones that where there before this event
Ooo
Ew memory juice, gross
Im sorry.. I don't play sky anymore tho..
Lets leave boats in GW and Eden to absord the polution
And then we can burry them somewhere
And then... That place where the polluted boats are buried would be more polluted tho...
Do you still have water spilled if you use a paper towel?
what
I think there is pathway ... That was covered by cloud
A hideout
Where
If all the cloud doesn't exist ... Who know how much more secret is Hidden
/anyways bye guys gtg

I guess so. How exactly is the boat there that makes me curious
An accident
I really want to see gw and eden before destruction
I think the big boat was supposed to escort the refugees but the boat probably got krilled
There's also mural on the right area, right? The small maze cmiiw
I think the big boat was supposed to escort the refugees but the boat probably got krilled
Interesting.. was that why their stuffs are still in the boat
I think that boat is the one from wave spirit’s cutscene.. it came all the way from prarie, meant to go to vault, but crashed in gw
FA boat has its story written on it
we theorize from the drawings that the light orbs were first collected by lightseekers, those orbs were taken to vault scholars who tweaked those lights into what we know as
, the vault scholars then flew the big boat along with 2 smaller boats (either going to another kingdom or-). They crashed because of a storm and we now know them as enchantment people
in the ark doodle if you notice the people flying them have vault scholar hats on them 
would be fun to know more about them tbh 
like where are they going?
👀 
Maybe given that they had 6 lights which teraformed the FA area, they were going to create a new colony somewhere.
I'm pretty sure the forgotten ark spirits are . Or.. were. Travelling merchants.
I don't know if this has been brought up before. But in the trailer, there are two lights:Cyan and orange. We have light quests that include colored lights. They also seem to be in their respective areas, isle and forest. So there is a possibility that we're going to get an origin story of where these light orbs come from and what they represent. It's just speculation but it sounds cool
i'm so hyped for the season but i start school in october and i'll probably won't have much time to play 😔
That's a good point,
was to do with the air and
lit lanterns and created the shops
Could be related to the new season screens perhaps, as those are 2 elements most related to the children of light
If you read about it it confirms to be an origin story, I’m hyped for new lore
Perhaps each one of the spirits will tell a story? Maybe their cutscenes will be a story instead of them doing their emote. Perhaps we will get an origin of the creation of the realms
Hopefully soon after this season, if we get a creation season, we get one that tells of the fall
That one could be in Eden and have lore of how light came down but people got greedy and everything fell
That would be so cool!
Im worried this is gonna be the only heavily lore oriented Season we'll have. Ever.
nooooo
they've a lot of lore in planning
so I imagine they'll try to implement it somewhere else
I hope so
a season can only have so much before it becomes overwhelming
true
hm, if this season is abt lore and the origin of sky, i’d expect 6 or even 7 spirits for all the levels
wonder what the story is 
wasnt there just four spirits and a quest guide?
Maybe the cutscences will be longer than normal 👀
ooo
Yeah, four spirits and a quest guide
yeah, i’m kinda whoa when i saw that
I mean, Prophets
prophets?
Im honestly both excited and nervous aboit the new gameolay stuff there will be in the new Season-
Yeah, Four Prophets
And a Quest Guide
whoaa
Ooh, imagine the next Seasons after this also having new gameplay stuff-
i need to watch the season teaser a few more times to actually think of anything 
You guys know the story of crying spirit?
She got stuck with her miner friends and they all died and she cried
That just the story in a nutshell
Slowly watching your friends die while you are facing death as well ._.
....
Angst on its finest 👌
why were they dying?
like aside from death by darkness plant and death from falling rocks?
but don't they have fire?
Im not sure for that one...
hmmmmm
maybe it was too wet...
and humid....
u know how all the trees have their tops cut off?
that's prob where they get all the paper...
and I hear stuff about the trees having no leaves,
but this could just be evolution because not much light comes through the clouds....
so the trees only had leaves at the tippy top
like baobabs
until the spirits cut the tops off....
((Did i miss anything interesting?
))

The crying Spirit’s friend’s despair was so deep that it makes a darkness plant 
She got stuck with her miner friends and they all died and she cried
@hushed steeple man this is... well so tragic
All other spirits: haha I’m frolicking and getting mad about trivial things
Fainting spirit and crying spirit: gosh I wish that were me
Are the spirit’s memories the last ones they had before they died?
prob not....
Tbh? It might be the case
it would be even sadder if the mom and kid in valley died
Or its any precious memory for them
right after that
Its either last memory or precious memory
last memory is unlikely....
I mean... taht might be the case for fainting and crying
some of the memories r at the height of their carrer
oh yes fainting and crying
I think its like the memory that best summarizes the spirits life
or maybe a way for the spirit to tell the s kid why the particular emotion is so important to them
Does anybody think the Season of Prophecy will have heavy King related lore? Or more hints? Anyway the team is keeping us well fed
I think it will be heavy compared to what we have seen thus far
Exactly how much that ends up being remains to be seen though
I feel like it's gonna be one of those "Here you go this is what happened and why you needed to be created"
Yeah me too, I think it will be a bit like Enchantment, with a lot to unpack but in subtle ways
each prophet will prob give u a prophecy.....
We might even get a situation where we’re left with more questions after the season than we had before it, in that it’ll answer some things but also open up a whole range of other variables
Or different parts of the same prophecy
right right
so anyway we will prob have this massive flashback kinda event
but I think there will be future oriented stuff too
Do you think it’s likely to be told in a flashback?
I assumed it’d be in either a mural or a memory projection like from the lanterns in vault
it will prob be an elder cut scene kinda thing....
after all memory sequences r for spirits...
So long as it’s related to lore, at least tangentially
It is related to the season
Ye send it through then
I can't send it, says "an unknown network error has occurred"
my prophecy theory:
there r 4 elder-like prophets, and 6 spirits...
5 of them r prob the janitors or pilgrims and one is prob the king...…….
Well basically im just trying to show that the season is related to the origin story
The upcoming season
yes
Yeah, the announcement page talks about origins
does anyone agree with my theory?
I’m afraid I do not
then....
Im still new to this lore thingy
pls enlighten me...
Me too
@fossil oxide I don't think so.

Tgc calls them the ancestor spirits
I don’t see the connection between the prophets and elders, nor do I see how they’re going to integrate an extra 6 spirits
Several people have you been in the lore chat before? Have you seen the lore moff copypasta?
The 4 ancestor spirits are the seasonal spirits
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Tehre will be prophets?

prob....
Don’t talk about beta in this channel pyre
I dunno if this is beta...
Hoo boi, now this is interesting
Still I would avoid it
ok....
@fossil oxide if u are saying the ancestor spirits are not the seasonal spirits then ur wrong
I don't understand ur statement
im saying that there will be ancestor spirits but they wont thell the prophecy....
What do you guys think the flame protecting the sky kid before they run out of light means
ther r at least 5 spirits...
It will he told through cutscenes
@old bolt yes yes yes
4 spirits and a questgiver
Soo behind that sky logo, there is star symbol right?
The middle one is definitely gonna be the quest giver
Read the season of prophecy blog by tgc on Instagram
im saying the prophecy will be told in cut scenes, but like elder cutscene formats....
@fossil oxide yeah
That would be interetsing
Or they would do like minecraft ending monologue style

But man that would take a long time to read lol
I really want to get a closer look at cosmetics
oooh maybe the spirit memories r like how the prophets learned or found out the prophecy...…….
like visions
yesyesyes
That would be cool
someone is agreeing with me!!!!!!!!
Most probably it will be told through cutscens
Welp, since its tgc of course it will be cutscene lol
but like the inspiration or the twitching and stuff
would be the memories...
the contents of the prophecy would be the cut scenes tho
I want some of it to apear while you walk post like the murals did
I mean it’s possible but afaik no other spirit in the game, seasonal or otherwise, directly prompts a full cutscene of their own
I would like to think that behind the doors are the spirits, like they each get there own themed area
I think well get the cutscene after meditating
@coral flicker yeah mostly the spirits are behind the doors
Somebody was saying earlier that the spirits would probably have challenges to relive their memories, so I would assume if that’s correct that each spirit has a challenge behind their door
Do we have confirmation or ideas where in isle it will be
Meditating will trigger the cutscene of the respective spirit
@coral flicker yes
They showed the exact location in the teaser
It might change tho
u know at the end of the teaser the lion`s eyes light up?
its like an elder cut scene....
sooooo
maybe the statues r like elder cutscene statues except they r the symbols of the prophets or spirits...…..
Most probably not
no?
@fossil oxide I mean the location
oh...
It must be amazing then for the prophets to finally meet the sky kids. They’ve been having dreams of the terrible future for so long and then they finally get to meet the children of the new world
I guess the light up cuz the door is opening
the brave new world....
It must be amazing then for the prophets to finally meet the sky kids. They’ve been having dreams of the terrible future for so long and then they finally get to meet the children of the new world
@open quail I like that
Hm that’s actually an interesting note about the eyes lighting up
right?
I'm pretty sure they light up cuz the door is getting opened
there prob r animal statues in each of the rooms and they light up at the end of cutscenes like elder statues
@fossil oxide I guess the statues are on the gates
Whether or not Pyre's theory is correct, its now one of my favourite ones
I reread the info from the Website again, and looks like we might have more story arcs
I-
I also assumed the statues were on the gates
@delicate coral yeah
hmmmm
I did to
I mean it’s possible that they’re shrines instead but I’m still not convinced since these are spirits and not elders
What other gameplay styles could they do in Sky?
That would be amazing. I would never leave the manta sanctuary if I could swim underwater with them xD
Ohhhh yessss swimming underwater!!!
Or caught the butterfly and carry it around with jar? 
"We hope to take larger leaps forward to evolve and differentiate the thematic and emotional experience of each story arc"
Is that mean... more interaction with the elders????
hey..... guys I just thought of a beautiful theory
what if the prophet spirits were summoned from different realms
bearing the images of the animal forms of their elders (like the) concept art animals
and they were summoned by the quest giver.....
and the prophet spirits r standing at the gate to their new homes....
and the quest giver is not in the pic because the quest giver is waiting on the inside of the cave on that small island....
there’s a sequential story arc???
Oh yeah reika said something earlier that alluded to water being a feature of this season particularly
"EACH STORY ARC"
Pleaseee i would die for more interaction with Samekh

Oh yeah reika said something earlier that alluded to water being a feature of this season particularly
YES
Ooh, could we get a Season based off of the Elders?!?!
YESYESYES
:O
Ooh, could we get a Season based off of the Elders?!?!
Bro- i approve this-
bearing the images of the animal forms of their elders (like the) concept art animals
and they were summoned by the quest giver.....
and the prophet spirits r standing at the gate to their new homes....
and the quest giver is not in the pic because the quest giver is waiting on the inside of the cave on that small island....
PRINCE, PRINCE, PRINCE, PRINCE-
oops
what if the prophet spirits were summoned from different realms
bearing the images of the animal forms of their elders (like the) concept art animals
and they were summoned by the quest giver.....
and the prophet spirits r standing at the gate to their new homes....
and the quest giver is not in the pic because the quest giver is waiting on the inside of the cave on that small island....
there we go
right?
It brings all of it together
If only i have nitro, i want to give you that animated eye react
Why are there only 4 prophets to 6 elders though
Your theory is top notch, Pyre!
thanks!
4 + 1 = 5
5 Elders excluding Isle on Eden door-
How many spirits are usually in seasons? 5?
...6?
What if prophets are actually ancestors
6 or 7 if including quest giver
Uhh nvm i forgot-
Who came to prevent the spiraling of history
4 + 1 = 5
5 Elders excluding Isle on Eden door-
@thin dirge seems like a bit of stretch
True
yesyesyes
Adding the questgiver and then subtracting isle lol
Given that they do be lookin like beta kids
we need to find out why the 2 realms bailed....
wasteland could have bailed because of the state of its realm
and isle could have provided the quest giver
Nah, I don't think its related to the Elders, maybe only the masks are inspired by the old concepts of the Elders
Okay so i have been thinking about sky kids lately...
I just noticed, they are literally faceless when they use faceless mask. Is that mena they didnt have any facial feature? If tahts so, maybe the terracotta soldier theory might be true...
If wasteland turned against the king, it was right at the end of the kingdom, during its downfall
Nah, I don't think its related to the Elders, maybe only the masks are inspired by the old concepts of the Elders
Okay does anyone have the picturea of diamond and sun symbol in-game?
They probably existed even before the stars fell-
Sky kids do have two close eyes 
Well, Ancestors have masks too
Yep
@open quail yeah.. but tahts the only facial feature that most noticeable...
Hmm
Wiat wiat i need to think of it more
Yeah
I just noticed, they are literally faceless when they use faceless mask. Is that mena they didnt have any facial feature? If tahts so, maybe the terracotta soldier theory might be true...
@bitter shale they have closed eyes when they don’t have light
Just straight up face 
All the spirits seem to have masks too. The spirits themselves might have made the sky kids, or sky kids just see faces as masks?
Cause Ancestors have it too. They only have "masks" so us changing our own faces can have some explaination?
Not Elders but rather enlightened skids
Or something?
Interesting... thanks for showing me the pic, Dropman
okokok
I have a new updated theory...
what if the prophet spirits were summoned and given their own symbols
and they were summoned by the quest giver.....
and the prophet spirits r standing at the gate to their new homes....
and the quest giver is not in the pic because the quest giver is waiting on the inside of the cave on that small island....
I've seen him looks like BTS
Nah, the quest giver is kinda confirmed to be the smol guy in the middle
oh.....
hahaha
Also, can't see a silhouette on the other side of the cave
Is there a reason for specifically 4?
Equal parts?
Its confirmed to be 4 Prophets, 1 Quest giver, which is most likely to be the dude in the middle
I've seen him looks like BTS
@stone rivet whoever reacted I did not mean it in a good eay
the devs felt like it?
4 have a deadly meaning in many countries soooo....

yeah
@stone rivet ehh, im reacted because im interested
They just wanted to have lower numbers yet higher quality characters
Maybe it was to compensate for the big story each one has?
Its stated in the Website-
it has nothing to do with that prob
I happen to live in one of those countries
where 4 means death
And to not making our phone get storage full

Maybe each spirit has more items?
They wanted to focus fewer yet higher quality characters
imagine the trees
looooooooooong trees
I’m fairly certain that the spirits have more cosmetics available, site says that we’re still getting a full season’s worth of cosmetics
That would be very fun for valley race
Imagine if its a map
You bet I’m sledding down valley if it’s a carpet
You bet I’m sledding down valley if it’s a carpet
Watch me goes nyooooom on my carpet
just the
the Prophecy spirits in the future being walked up to
"hey what do you offer"
pulls up ridiculously long tree
"WHAT"
Getting a little off topic, can we go back to lore~
yeha mate, we kinda messed up with the forest. You need to help us covered it, otherwise Teth wont be so happy...
Lmaoo
Plant demn trees kid
Unlike the previous spirits, they’ve lived a majority of their lives hoping to see the sky kids so maybe they’ll have more items 
@hushed steeple your pfp fit that sentence somehow

D-Does our Skid even know how to plant trees?
Depends
is it weird I walk slowly around Light Miner out of respect
They can fly, why not with digging?
Mine is dumb
Plus, soil full of dark water from rain, so maybe not a good idea...
The floor is lava dark oil infested
Imagine, its actually a tree seed and when we planted it, it will instantly grow to a giant tree plus picnic carpet for 4 people
Like table
Pretty much would work like a table tho-
Im sticking to the map as the ultimate reward
I’d imagine a picnic would be a basket but yeah lol
Or a magic scroll
Can we roast crab while picnic? 
"let'S WATCH A MAN BREAK DOWN AS HE REALISES HE'LL DIE ALONE IN A CAVE - "
please can we please have him less often
Wait, there are spells that can be items, right? Like Firework Staff and Table-
Yes
Hshshs i always walk slowly and doing prayer emote whenever i near them
Maybe a boat can be made from the scrolls?
Its just a pack of origami
Wait, could the carpet be used like a boat?
Imagine. The ultimate item is a paddle and it will summon a boat
Like the one in the ||office||
Sorry
But that would be cool
Its ok its a spoilers chat
Also it will fit for my valley elders cosplay-
Like, us just floating on dark water from GW, using the carpet-
I can finally take long romantic boat rides in golden wasteland
Ah yes, a romantic stroll in GW. With crabs and krills

Nothing is more romantic than that
Darn, this would really make me wish I could have the Season pass for this Season-
It has like a weird thing on top of it
gets violently rammed, in deep, searing agony all over
"How romantic"
Aladin's carpet
I’m dating the krill
It could even be a sleeping bag
A-lad-in a carpet
Ooh, sleeping bag!

You use it and hop around like a caterpillar in a sleeping bag 
I daw that
Shhshs forget me ever saying that-
I saw it and i like it
please let that be the new carpet thingie’s use

Or imagine meeting elders while in sleeping bag
what in the stars name you were wearing kid...
where can i get one-
I highlighted some lines in the pic
imagine newbies going through the cutscene and seing a bunch of big guys in blankets-
lmao
Lmaooo
i feel like the masks in the teaser are basically the animal masks 2.0 but 8bit
one of them looks like 👾
Or moths meeting Samekh doing cartepillar jump-
sky: beautiful game with deep lore
sky players: honk honk big guys in blankets omg new ts im broke skrEEE
pff i just realized what valley cutscene might look like if they wore catapillar sleeping bag things-
remind me of a jumping race from my country-
Balap karung (sack race)
Man now i wnat to see them doing sack race
w h o a imagine that in sky but instead we have sleeping bags 
cause we skykids always lazY
Sleeping bag race sleeping bag race-
I fixed my cosmetic highlight
Looks like a telescope ngl
Hey so um is there any significance to the winged light stance's in Eden? They're always sitting in Eden or laying down, whereas in normal areas they're standing and looking off into the sky.
Yeah, its an interesting detail...
I think those stars give up on their journey
Theyre also not looking up
They are in stance of waiting?
A telescope? Maybe... That would make prophesizing the coming of a being from high in the sky easier
Like, they all seems to wait for something to came
My interpretation is that they're the King's WL, but manifesting as the King's memories too. Those are the King's final moments
You literally just watch them slowly falling and bam you have your prophecy: "The stars are coming! We watched them fall!"
but they are meteors instead-
Maybe they're looking to "home" cuz you know the intro to sky is all "bring our lost stars home". And the ones at Eden are tired from they're journey
Wait a second
Maybe they're looking to "home" cuz you know the intro to sky is all "bring our lost stars home". And the ones at Eden are tired from they're journey
Thats what i was thinking aboit the last part
I kinda like to imagine that... Home is a pocket dimension? Like, all 7 areas are in one big big island
While our home is our actiavtion place
Activation
#lore-discussion-spoilers message
ELDER OF THE ISLE PIN
Dawn breaks with stars fallen,
Ferries stir to distant calls.
Shepherd us home back upwards,
A herald awakes to heed us all.
“Dear Children, no hope was lost,
We saw of your return to us.”
The Elder opens up the skies,
And together again, we fly.
I meant that the winged lights are looking to their own home in Eden or something like that. Idk if they're always looking in the same direction to the mountain of Eden tho.ill prolly have to do some research
"7 doors, 7 realms. From the place you born, guide the stars to their right place"
Uhh i made it up lmao
Though, WL are referred to as Imprints of the Child of Light, not Stars
But tahts sounda so poetic
Though, WL are referred to as Imprints of the Child of Light, not Stars
@thin dirge
I've always really hated that interpretation of wl, being imprints of the child of light is so vague. It being stars made much more sense before they changed it
Imprints of... first generation of skykids, maybe?
That's why I think they're memories of the King in a way-
What if "us" in the poem includes the elders, and we are the ferries?
Like, skykids now are like 2nd generation
You know, the streams of light in the Intro
After the King disappeared there
They're WL
Could you post the video of the intro. Anyone have that?
And they all came from a single point: Eden
How many stars fell in the intro btw? 7?
You know, the streams of light in the Intro
@thin dirge
It's been awhile since I saw the intro so if anyone had the vid pls share
Oh yeah I remember. I think each beam of light that fell was 7, one for each realm. Not sure if they fell from Eden tho.
I think the stars are elders, since temple are built where the stars fell
In the intro
What if our light are starlights?
So to summarize, 8 lights fall, one falls on the child and wakes them up. The wing icon appears on the skykid to symbolize either wl or spirit or elder or star idk.
We smashed terracotta theory and that starlight theory together and wham, skykids are "earth" stars!
You're talking about an earlier part of the Intro
That's the fall of the stars
But not that cutscene screenshot I showed
But the WL do not fall from where the stars did
"If only they've listened"
I think that part might ahve connection with the next season?
Actually six fall. One for each constellation right?
6? Not 7?
Yeah, but the screenshot I show is LATER in the cutscene
Hold up lemme watch the intro again-
Just watch the intro again pls
Odd thought, but what if the temples were not so much a place of worship as an attempt to stabalize and protect the falling stars?
King/Prince
Its seems like... there is 7th star?
I got a theory about that.. But I stilm didn't make a doc about that
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Hmmmmm
Wait, so i was imagining like this. 6 stars with one star as their leader. All of them fell to the earth
KADAL
AYAYAY
after watching the intro fully, I see six stars falling forming the kingdoms, then the kingdoms disappear and several other star fall after that but they arent the same stars that fell to make the kingdoms because they fall from above where the kingdoms were
Those are WL
Or the spirits maybe?
They don't fall from where the stars/Elders fell
If you trace it back somehow, it looks like they came from ABOVE Eden
some of the stars that fall are wl? and the ones that form the kingdoms arent stars but maybe elders?
Hmmmm

You guys think the elders live in the orbit before the darkness came
If from Eden then it's probably likely they are the cotl trying to reach out
You guys think the elders live in the orbit before the darkness canr
Yeh
Maybe those other stars are related to prophets, prophets indeed have some extraordinary powers, STAN BILLIE FOR INFO, because we see that one spirit's room is floating rocks, which I assume were made by him
Yeah but, are they like part of the orbit?
Since orbit is like galaxy or some sort of it
Idk about if elders are stars, since we don't bring them "home" to Eden.
Idk bout the 7th i think it’s eden itself tho-
I suspect ancestor spirits may be ancestors who had been given bits of star from members of the constilation still safely in the sky
because they are there
The 7th might be king/prince
And my thought is... the king/prince are the leader of elders
At least the most respected of 7
Elders are stars, but the narrator could be unreliable
After all, its just the peak of the iceberg
They're probably referring to the souls of Ancestors
Which are probably the actual stars
Alight im bout to head oit see yall later
You see in the intro, 6 constellation are connected to one person in golden line and star symbol rigjt? I suspect its the 7th star or the king/prince
idk bout y guys but what I’ve been thinking that the eden diamond thing is the 7th elder but like trapped in there-
@hushed steeple cya! Stay safe there
idk bout y guys but what I’ve been thinking that the eden diamond thing is the 7th elder but like trapped in there-
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Nice one!
Look, one of the narrative is "you feel like the Light is calling you"
What if its the 7th star calling us to free them from the diamond prison???
That could be but we’re like too weak ig-
Elders ARE Stars
@thin dirge
Ok so I guess I can agree with the idea that elders are the 6 stars that fell. Took a bit of time to come to terms with it. I really dislike and love sky lore but there's so much left to interpretation and such vague wording is used that it's hard to stick to one fact or theory. Maybe in a sense we are bringing the elders back to "home" in orbit by completing their constellations?
Oh! That last sentence!
I kinda intrepet that we get the elder hairstyles after completing their constellation is like a honor to be like them
Yeah why are the elders giving us their wigs tho?
Like
We are great enough to be use their style 
"Thanks for helping us, kid. Now you are worthy enough to be as cool as us"
At least thats how I imagine Samekh talk to us lmao
If it comforts you, Smarties, it’s canon that the stars in the opening are the elders
devs said
I bet it's cause we pay rediculous amounts for cosmetics so the elders figure we like that sort of thing
If it comforts you, Smarties, it’s canon that the stars in the opening are the elders
@lethal stump
It does comfort me. I just really hate the way they phrase the whole "bring our lost stars home" thing when we don't get any indication that we're bringing elders home to eden
at some point i want their clothes-
do they live in eden, though ?
But we see them in their temples? Right? Or are those just memories?
at some point i want their clothes-
Ngl same-
Imagine flying on prairie with Vault elder's dress-
That would be awesome!
Hoooo yEs pleAse
The elders aren’t in the temples, we’re just close enough to their essence that we can connect and communicate with them
it doesn’t sound like you’ve read the canon lore doc, Smarties
But we see them in their temples? Right? Or are those just memories?
I... didnt think its just a memory? Its like we are transported to their dimension while we are meditating
I suddenly remembered one of the lines at the intro when we first started the game, it’s “If only they had listened” as we can see the elder temples vanishing in the cinematic. I think prophecy might be scheduled in the timeline where a group of prophets predicted the Sky kingdom is about to fall, and we are there to witness the calm before the kingdoms fall due to Eden 
Welp, my theory is close enough lmao
Aww yiss im craving for some angst and apocalypse scenes-
I've read the doc before I just don't like the canon lore. What the heck are we dragging to Eden?!? If not the elders, then what stars could we be bringing home. I'm sorry but this canon lore is too confusing.
Time to Sky to be angsty 👁️👄👁️
because darkness came 
Are they banished from orbit? If so, why?
hooo boi X-K- Apocalyptic
Or maybe they all got tasked to cast away the darkness from earth lmao-
Smh some people said the stars or winged light are remains from the so called Sky king/Eden elder when the power diamond from Eden caused enough destruction to let the kingdoms fall
Also where did the red rocks camefrom tho
Corruption
Likely, i always like to imagine that of the 7 stars, the king is the one who got corrupted by the darkness the most
While GW elder only got half corrupted since they might be the most loyal of the 6
Loyalst
Hshshs
i think the red rocks are coming from the eden diamond
What is the english-
loyalist
Apparently they become the cocoon to prevent it from spreading too far
Most loyal, Flos
Or that’s what I would think of
English is weird
What if... Daleth (isle elder) the one who responsible to keep the darkness inside the cocoon?
While GW elder only got half corrupted since they might be the loyalst of the 6
@bitter shale I doubt that, imagine the Eden diamond as a radioactive substance since it’s powerful enough to destroy all the realms. In my opinion, vault elder received the least corruption since the vault is pretty secure in terms of structure? GW elder might also stand a chance against the corruption since they’re the strongest elder but from their cinematic, they got weak after having their light extinguished
Like, their mask is destroyed... i think its because their attempt to trap the darkness inside the cocoon?
Well it could be all the elders doing it too tho
And probably daleth the one who got hit by something
But like, can Daleth be... kind of the first line in defense? Their mask is fully destroyed
So they might get the most impact
So no one is going to tell what stars we're bringing home? I'd be totally fine with all the canon if they could just explain that one line. "Bring our lost stars home" what are the stars we're bringing home? Cuz the elders that are stars are already home apparently, I admit I didn't read the canon as closely in the past. I just wanna understand that one line.
The fact that forest elder made the diamond is canon, since the canon lore said it but we still have no idea who ordered them to build it. Probably the king but 
I doubt that, imagine the Eden diamond as a radioactive substance since it’s powerful enough to destroy all the realms. In my opinion, vault elder received the least corruption since the vault is pretty secure in terms of structure? GW elder might also stand a chance against the corruption since they’re the strongest elder but from their cinematic, they got weak after having their light extinguished
Now thats a good way to intrepet it!
Smarties, the point is to think up an answer yourself. We’re not given the answers for a reason, so we can have fun making things up !
I think the stars we’re supposed to bring home are the children statues at Eden.
Since they all go up to the skies after we rescue them
What if... okay do you guys remember what we got after we given our wl to eden statues?
Ascended candles
That like
When we bring AC to spirits, we can meet them in orbit...
I think the stars we’re supposed to bring home are the children statues at Eden.
@nimble stump
Ok I think I can live with that answer
And tehy give us wing buff in return
"Bring the stars home"
What if AC is the answer for it?
But like, can Daleth be... kind of the first line in defense? Their mask is fully destroyed
@bitter shale could be, but clay masks normally crack as they go unmaintained throughout the ages.
HooooOooO
"Bring the stars home"
What if AC is the answer for it?
@bitter shale the reward for skykids to bring the stars home
So the lost children were the star> "Bring the stars home"
What if AC is the answer for it?
My my, the internet is sooo slow-
Okay oka.
The elders are fallen stars, we can agree with that. But remember that they are constellation as whole. Those constellation consist of ancestors, that we can bring to orbit with AC
Maybe the stars are the spirits, elders, and the Eden statues

We gotta save them all
If we finished all the spirits in a constellation (with ACs), we can meet the Elders in orbit
Its like, idk, realky fit the "bring our lost stars home" sentence, which is our main task
Gotta catch em all
But darkness came, and the stars fell...
Together, the fallen stars made a new home in the clouds.
If only they had listened...
A long time has passed. Now, I call to you.
Wake up, child. Bring our lost stars home.```
Wait IdK mY tYpo is Uh too mUch-
It could be the elders talking tho
@green tartan
I never thought of it that way. I always thought the king or the child of light was the one narrating but it makes sense if the elders are talking, wanting us to bring home their spirits
This just pops up knowing that we have to like save those lost children in eden
but still... im kinda confused on one thing
does that mean, the fallen stars are the whole constellation? or just the elders?
that would be terrifying if the whole constellation are just goes brrrrr to the earth

I think it’s whole
I think it’s Isle elder who was the narrator from the start.
First, when we first met him in the temple, he has the power to harness energy to command creatures of light to follow his lead. Skykids are made from light or having the ability to harness light energy. Thus, since skykids are the beings of light, we have no control to be against the Isle elder’s command.
What is this weird patterning in the Prairie temple?
skykids are counted as creatures of light

now thats an interesting take
since its makes sense!
What is this weird patterning in the Prairie temple?
@lyric isle
It doesn't look like hieroglyphics so idk ¯_(ツ)_/¯
architecture✨✨✨
also I found this...thing
ohh i think its a bug tho ._.
Yee ig that’s a bug
...yeah, i think its a bug...
Where’s that tho
jelly fish cave
i think the fallen stars are just the elders, and the ancestors are earth walkers that blessed by the elders and given a honor to be part of their constellation
i need opinion for this theory lmao
Hooo ok
honestly , it makes sense to me that the stars are just elders , and returning the stars to the sky is essentially completing the constellations and summoning them to orbit .
The 6 stars in the intro were confirmed to be the 6 elders
There are the fallen sky kids?
And it’s also quite....clear
Are their real forms the ones scattered around the kingdoms?
Are they dead sky kids?
Personally
I think that they are the inhabitants
Those are called imprints of the child of light
Why are we putting them inside a previous generation of skykids that died in eden? That idk
Lol ikr
So like
Honestly
Has anyone explored their governmental structure?
Or is it just me XD
it seems kinda like a confederacy to me
I jus assumed it was a failed generation of skykids that were sent jus like us to do a previous mission
Maybe to stop the king, or the diamond or
Something we dunno about
The elders are the federal government
The spirits are the city-state government
And the winged light are the inhabitants
Also
I have wonder
Why we take the light from the kids
It seemed kinda like murder to me
i dont think its murder o.o
I think when there is enough light , A sky kid is born
Technically they died and we are....saving them
Didn’t u read the prompt
“Return the light of the fallen”
if that is how they are born there must have been. so many sky kids right?
we using our body to store the wls so we can keep them safe and return it to the original owners-
eh
That’s now how they were born...
that can make sense too i guess
Didn’t u read the prompt
“Return the light of the fallen”
i personally think this can refer both to the statues and the elders tbh
since we also bring light to the elder
fire
ye
also since elders are fallen stars...
yeah. maybe our light is to connect elders with the megabird.
mhm
t> yeah. maybe our light is to connect elders with the megabird.
@sinful anvil
Am I the only one who thinks that the megabird looks like a phoenix.
Yeah but we competed that already before we went to eden
Why would it refer it when we are at the final stage
small theory for just giggles (cuz im not good at religion to come up w a legit one): what if the narrator is the king and basically elders rebelled against him after he turns corrupt and got Timed Out as a result? “if only they listened” probably is a twisted way of saying they shouldnt hve betrayed him
oh for the stars....
why i ahvent think that possibility???
i remember a long time ago someone said “i hate the king” 
i hate the king
"if only they listened"
if only they didnt betray me
oh its you!!
I hate the king
that... oh stars... oh my...
the king doesn’t deserve love
but my theory’s plot hole is implying the light we give to elders isnt good (and why light not corruption?) and we are not innocent skykids after all
i would hate to theorize and imply that

on one hand i rly like the mind control theory and wish its true but on the other sky is for looking at things in different perspectives (after all we arent even sure where our universe comes from)
Awkward silence
just wanted to compare my theory to the quotes in opening scene word for word but i only have chinese version TvT
it’s in the pins
thank u

it doesnt add up to the tone L
but its funny that in the opening one of the stars from six realms are connected to a person’s head
mb elders know each other through the king
“bring the lost stars home” if elders were stars then it could mean they need to be brought out of their Time Out