lore-discussion-spoilers

[dusky isle]

My minds tended more to “born from the ancestors over reliance on darkness as a power source”

They’re a natural thing that should be rare

[dull fox]

I’m pretty sure that someone high up in the games chain of power said at some point that Krill are biological and natural

[dusky isle]

The ancestors gathered to much darkness, and thus krill population is unnaturally high

[dull fox]

Yeah. I think the krill are in the wasteland not because they made it that way but because the wasteland is a natural source of darkness that they like to be in

also because a lot of skykids that they like to eat go through there

And back to the island itself- (I was driving so I couldn’t comment more) I think that the different areas in the island (dawn, day, rain, sunset, dusk, and night) aren’t necessarily individual areas in a relatively thin and Long Island. I think the island is more likely a large, almost circular shape with a mountain that makes up sunset, with the different areas existing at different distances from the storm, almost like how an atomic bomb has different zones of destruction

With the wasteland existing within a large lake of toxic material close to sea level

And the clouds have taken a shape that blocks off most of the island from our accessibility.

[hushed steeple]

Headcanon giant megabird constellation is actually a giant celestial Krill

[lethal stump]

bendy kroll

[lyric isle]

So my very strong thought of war machine krill might be disproved

[hushed steeple]

I saw this as a Krill and was so shocked and excited

[dull fox]

It actually does look like a krill...

[silver sequoia]

I can see it. That's interesting

[hushed steeple]

Celestial Krill with its many legs delicately crafted the Skykids and sent them down on their way to meet its other more-in-likeness children

[dusky isle]

@lyric isle Maybe not war machine but it’s not hard to imagine the ancestors assuming they could tame the krill as weapons

[lethal stump]

i have a headcanon that the king kept krills as pets, ive made up a whole way they act as pets too owo

[dense umbra]

Is that megan?

[lethal stump]

yes, thats megan in orbit

[short owl]

What if rebirth Megan is waving at us, but stars move slowly so it's hard to tellm

[dense umbra]

Question do you think looking at the similarities between these symbols that the prince is still somehow looking after skids providing them with tools & potions?

& if you notice the floor here is diffrent than the normal blue/grey color here it's actually golden suggesting it's royal or something?

[frail hearth]

also when you create a candle that star emblem shows around the candle icon!

let me get a pic

[cobalt palm]

8 does seem to be a special number for the ancestor spirits culture, we see lots of octagons, the power diamonds have 8 sides too. And they are split into 8 realms if you include "the light".

[silver sequoia]

And sideways, 8 is ♾️
Which could represent the cycle we go through

[bitter shale]

infinity reborn

man, i live for this concept of death and reborn

dunno if this sounds ridiculous lol, but i write it anyway

what if, the prince indeed sacrifice himself to keep life on Sky world? It did worked and he is now become part of every skykids. but it come with a terrible price.

i was thinking the price was he cant become fully "living being" (cant have your own desire, communicating with other living being etc) and can only guide the skychilds as a "whisper" (narration) in their head

but then i think, what if infinite reborn become the price too? the prince wished for keeping life on sky. he might didnt wished for the end of those life, thus become infinite reborn

[frail hearth]

i like to think that he is the one who shows the way you have to go when you honk :]

[bitter shale]

yeah! that can possible too!

[narrow crescent]

Considering the symbol that appears when you call is his symbol, might as well be possible.

[bitter shale]

also i want to ask, does the prince and the king counted as different individuals?

[lethal stump]

we don’t know

[bitter shale]

i like to think of them being different individuals tbh

[narrow crescent]

Me too

[lethal stump]

there were many concepts, and the relation of the prince and king changed a lot
so until we get dev confirmation, all we know is that the king is canon, prince is in limbo, and we don’t know their relation to each other

null has been typing a while

[solar relic]

[short owl]

Bricky!

I bet I can take the prince wishing to keep living on the world and make it sadder.

What if he didn't just want to live on the world, but was deeply upset by the death on the world too? He could have been trying to find a way to bring spirits back after death because he didn't want to keep losing people. (This works especially if every loss hits him particularly hard, driving him to have terrible judgement and forget about people's wellbeing, since he's so focused on their survival)

The effect is multifold. He'd be jealous and resentful of Megabird, to whom souls and memories go after death, obsessed with the idea of eternal life (cause he just keeps losing people and it hurts too badly), and get disconnected from others cause everyone he bothers to be close to is guaranteed to leave him.

The end result, he tries to use technology to create everlasting life. He gets desperate and in no particular order, sacrifices himself and brings about the end of life as he knew it on the world.

He also manages to somewhat succeed, but maybe not in the way he expected. When he sacrificed himself, he did two things: shattered his soul into a ton of pieces, and take on a mantle similar to Megabird's. When one of his soul pices dies, they return to him (the mantle), continue on to Megan (as all souls other than his do), and then return to the world, memories and personality intact (the success).

[bitter shale]

holy megan, you scared me for a while there

but dang, i love your take on this theory!

[short owl]

Wait how did I scare you?

[bitter shale]

the sudden show of pharagraphs

but its cool, dont really kind me lol. just being dramatic here

[short owl]

Oh. Sorry, I tried to get it to stay in one post because uh... well let''s just say the orriginal Megan Mind Control Theory cannot be easily worked through.

The most popular version to share is Brick's summary of it.

Ah. Compy died

[short owl]

My favorite theory questions seem to be:

• how can I make this worse
• how can this go in the opposite direction
• what if this is only technically true but false for most practical purposes

This time I took the first one lol

[solar relic]

i like how you think

[bitter shale]

okay, hot take : what if we actually already meet the prince in-screen ?

dir you guys remember that light child that we hugged ||after our "death" in eden?||

[short owl]

Not an uncommon theory. Also no need to spoiler tag.

[frail hearth]

if he is stuck in a limbo like bricky said, then i think it makes sense

[bitter shale]

eh, just try to be safe but thanks for telling me that

[short owl]

Only beta and hacks are considered spoilers here, and those are outright forbidden

[solar relic]

the golden shiny boi is actually

[elder night]

Hello

[lethal stump]

if he is stuck in a limbo like bricky said, then i think it makes sense
no- i meant canon limbo. We don’t know his status as a canon or not character

[solar relic]

hello ger are you new to lore

[elder night]

Yes and no

[opaque mango]

i thought the child we hug after we die is sad eden elder but eh

[elder night]

Ive been making my own lore outside social media

[bitter shale]

i thought the child we hug after we die is sad eden elder but eh
i was actually thinking like this too! until i realize elder and skykids are like different species lol

[elder night]

It's my ocs back long time ago in a hidden forest battle
So my theory is eden elder is both leader of sky kingdom and dark forces idk
Ik im stupid

[opaque mango]

hug child disappears after we get our cape i think

[elder night]

:')

[bitter shale]

there is no 'stupid' theories. every theories are acceptable here

[elder night]

I just thought my one wasnt acceptable compared to yall theories

[lethal stump]

anything is acceptable

[opaque mango]

I know, and all theories are 100% welcome here.

I've seen some folks in here come down pretty hard on one another about what "real and true canon" and honestly, that's not the purpose of this channel. It's for everyone to let their imaginations run wild, not to argue about who is correct or create some kind of gatekeeping.

We've presented the story of Sky intentionally vague so that you can freely project your interpretation of it without anything being concretely right or wrong.

• Ktjn

[lethal stump]

there are no rules to theories, aside from the obvious of keeping them sfw

[elder night]

Thxx

[opaque mango]

Can i share a theory about sky capes?

[solar relic]

go ahead

[opaque mango]

I think it has 2 layers
the colour layer and the white (light) layer
after we get krilled our cape turns white
idk its just a random theory

[elder night]

Nice

[opaque mango]

i krilled the chat oop

[solar relic]

that's a cool theory actually

same thing happens when you stand in the rain for too long as well, like the colour layer fades away

[bitter shale]

outer layer is like soem kind of protection for our body

while inside layer is like some kind of spare layer after we lose our outside layer?

[opaque mango]

in eden the colour layer gets shaggy (what do you call it ) when hit by rocks

[short owl]

Our winged light would need extra protection against the harshness of the world. Can't exactlyy protect itself from rain

[hushed steeple]

Any identification on this statue? One that collapses in Eden (face barely visible) shows up pre-orbit too

[lethal stump]

most thinj it has something to do with vault or vault elder

[solar relic]

it looks like a scholar

might be one, might not be

[short owl]

Hey so this was spawned by one of Sol's drawings rather than offficial art, but what if birds aren't exactly animals?

[lethal stump]

elaborate owo

[short owl]

Souls lost in the clouds probably would have had a difficult time navigating, and may have lost their form as their memories faded.

Given the scale of what we see (for example, the number of seats at the eend of the valley races), there must have been a lot more spirits than we see now

What if the birds are the spirits of ancestors who didn't get tied to a powerful memory?

Also why are you a chicken?

[lethal stump]

predator chicjen

[kind bobcat]

finally, a worthy opponent!

[tender dune]

took me a while to realize who dat

[lethal stump]

@hushed steeple, your comment has beta spoilers, please remove it

Thank you

[hushed steeple]

It wasn't beta spoilers tho since it's in the current season on live sky?

[lethal stump]

The final quest has not been released in live. Until it is, thats beta content

[hushed steeple]

Oh I don't play beta so I wouldn't know

[lilac stone]

Good evening

[silver sequoia]

I had a baby theory in my head and now I forgot about it

[lilac stone]

What if krill were sent down by mega bird??

[silver sequoia]

I remember it being about the vault and eden

[lilac stone]

To gain control of the sky kingdom??

[hushed steeple]

bricky i may have discovered a new species of crab

[lilac stone]

show

[hushed steeple]

can i get an image of a regular aggressive crab?

i just want to confirm

[lilac stone]

Ok

Wait

Creb

[hushed steeple]

i need a skykid as a height comparison

@tender dune can you help?

[lethal stump]

don’t cold ping people

[lilac stone]

Ok

[hushed steeple]

what is cold ping?

[lethal stump]

pinging when the person isn’t in the conversation

and ginko is currently offline

they’re likely in school since it’s mid-day for them i believe

[hushed steeple]

i didnt know sorry, but they are usually very interested in the biology aspects of sky so i thought they would like to help/know

[tender dune]

I've been pinged?

[solar relic]

yes ginko you did

het ponged

[tender dune]

did what

[solar relic]

*Gte pINGED

[tender dune]

[solar relic]

*get pinged

[lilac stone]

Average Skykid is almost as the spirit grave

[tender dune]

That's a normal crab picture

they’re likely in school since it’s mid-day for them i believe
Its morning for me xD

[lilac stone]

@hushed steeple you there?

[hushed steeple]

yeah, i mean like an image of a skykid holding a crab

[lilac stone]

Oh ok

[hushed steeple]

i just need to see the amount of space the crab obstruct

[lilac stone]

Imma head to sanctuary

[tender dune]

It obstructs my head and half body cuz im short

The 2 images with me are corrupted crab (much larger). The one where im saying kreg and krebo are the peaceful ones (smaller)

[hushed steeple]

this is the crab i found

[peak ore]

oh valley***

[lethal stump]

thats valley

[hushed steeple]

i dont know if it is just me or the crab is bigger

[peak ore]

oh yeah

[lilac stone]

Here you go

Ohh

BRUH I ALMOST DIED

[hushed steeple]

sorry for giving you so much trouble

[lilac stone]

[peak ore]

you look smaller tho

[lilac stone]

Idk, it might be my straw hat lol

[peak ore]

no I mean lambdaw look smaller than ginkomimi for correct comparison

[lilac stone]

@hushed steeple gw and forest have smaller crabs

[hushed steeple]

it might be just me

[lilac stone]

And valley and sanctuary have bigger crabs

[tender dune]

p peaceful. C corrupt

[peak ore]

you will have to make the comparison with one height on your own :(

[lilac stone]

I see that he corrupt ones hide as pebbles @tender dune

[tender dune]

Yes the corrupted hide. The peaceful ones never hid

Let me find my valley pic of crabs i have too many ss

[lilac stone]

Also I see corrupt ones are more gray?

Or is it the light falling on them

[lethal stump]

the colours of crabs are based on lighting, they’re all dark grey in the end

[tender dune]

Left sanc, right valley. Same size

the colours of crabs are based on lighting, they’re all dark grey in the end
Ngl lowkey i hope my theory is right that its not a lighting issue but that they change their color like cave creatures in a way (white for in cave/dark place - dark for sunlight absorbing)

[livid valley]

[mild lark]

Wow crab are big

[tender dune]

im avg-smol height (dunno my size)

[tender dune]

Oh yeah, i remember someone was saying when you burn the BUTTERFLY pot to release them they ooze black juice. Went to check it out a few days ago and wanted to say that the butterflies dont ooze black, its the dark plant you burn on them that does that black goo.

W-why did it become butter..

[gentle sparrow]

butter pot

Lmao

[tender dune]

[gentle sparrow]

it could stay that way tho

:>

***because 🧈 ***

[edgy sequoia]

did I miss any crackpot theories

also yes I have revived from the dead

[nimble siren]

new crackpot theory i made right now: butterflies, like all other animals in sky, are made of butter

[tender dune]

oh no

[hushed steeple]

what?

[edgy sequoia]

everything is nutter

butter*

especially the dark plants

they slippery

[hushed steeple]

[mild lark]

Butter ?

wait guys butter are made from anima-

[edgy sequoia]

shhh

[short owl]

It's all Megan Milk dw

[edgy sequoia]

yes

[tender dune]

oh boi

Butter made from milk btw

[mild lark]

Yes

Usually confuse it with lard

[short owl]

By the way, buttermilk is actually the part of milk that does not become butter

[tender dune]

my brain can't process that sentence

[mild lark]

wait so it not milk with butter?
My life is a lie

[short owl]

Yeah. When you make butter, buttermilk is the stuff left behind.

[tender dune]

anyways lore

[solar relic]

any new discoveries today?

[short owl]

A new theory popped up.

[solar relic]

which one was it about i'll go find the message

[short owl]

#lore-discussion-spoilers message

[solar relic]

thank you!

[tender dune]

Nice

[solar relic]

indeed, i haven't seen that theory before

[mild lark]

I just realised I didn't make any theory related to king or prince yet..

[broken basin]

This might be too much but the building we see from shipwreck doesn't look like the temple

The one from shipwreck has a ring around it

[mild lark]

Hmm

I didn't notice that

[broken basin]

Maybe it's not the same building

But how can that be possible

[mild lark]

Must be mistake done to the game

[broken basin]

We don't see any other building even we enter battlefield

[delicate coral]

I think it’s just that they haven’t replaced the 2D image in the background for shipwreck

[broken basin]

Y'all going for the boring answer 🥺

Well, makes sense but

[edgy sequoia]

It's probably a leftover design they left

I'm not sure actually

[heady sequoia]

im alive again

[broken basin]

The whole building is different there are not side pillars in the Shipwreck one

Also it's tall

From the sides

[wind arch]

Eden from aviary area used to look different too, it's probably an older version of the temple that they need to update

[broken basin]

Maybe

[hushed steeple]

Aviary?

[broken basin]

I think it looked different from bird's nest

They fixed it a month ago I guess

looked p cool

[edgy sequoia]

Aviary?
@hushed steeple the old social space in the game

[bitter shale]

wait eden have aviary area?

[edgy sequoia]

Also I noticed that in the teaser trailer for the Light Awaits version, Eden from Prairie has some swirly clouds around it

[broken basin]

Umm, aviary was like home+prarie social

[bitter shale]

what was that file

[bitter shale]

can we all agree that prairie temple might be inspired from temple in Nepal

[obsidian hemlock]

Sorry to interrupt, but can someone point me to where I can get a better understanding of who the King/Prince is? I see it pop up here and there and I dont understand their role/ where they are hinted at in game.

[tender dune]

Hello new Lore Moff!
Read this short document to get started! Once you’ve read this, check out pins for more information.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto

Credits to Bricky for making this

[broken basin]

Ummm, gin , the doc?

Ok

👍

[tender dune]

Other info will be in the pins

[broken basin]

tgc said they'll bring the aviary back, but we don't know when, so it can be even a million years from now but it'll come back

[obsidian hemlock]

Thanks, I am very curious as to what other people's interpretations are.

[broken basin]

That's what we are here for to see

[manic plank]

Not sure how relevent this is to the convo but following up on the pillars, All the pillars that you see in the game especially at the golden wasteland are suppose to be statues of the Sky King.

I'm more interested in how exactly the King got corrupted to turn against his own people, destroying Sky.

[tender dune]

Discussed this before but seraph posted this for me while we were trying to decipher sky language. The game took a lot of inspirations from diff places

[bitter shale]

what is the most common reason for a king to forget his people?

my best guess is power

but what power specifically?

[tender dune]

Officially we dont know bbea. But there are many many theories about that

[broken basin]

I think the power of being the King and being able to control his people

[manic plank]

I think they found out about the darkness then they warned the king not to used it but maybe he thought he could control it and thats when everything went haywire

[bitter shale]

yep that can be one of the reason

he is so drunk in power that he crave for a bigger power

[manic plank]

i have a feeling the Prophecy teaser will give us answers (maybe)

[bitter shale]

yeshshsh pls

i wish for more loreee

[broken basin]

He was hungry for more power and energy, so he started the mass production of power diamonds, he also asked people to use the light creatures and harness their energy to make the diamonds.
This shows that he didn't care about the precious creature, he just needed power

[edgy sequoia]

so uh

[obsidian hemlock]

What is the prophecy?

[bitter shale]

He was hungry for more power and energy, so he started the mass production of power diamonds, he also asked people to use the light creatures and harness their energy to make the diamonds.
This shows that he didn't care about the precious creature, he just needed power
im agreed with this theory

[edgy sequoia]

I was looking thru old prairie elder concepts and uh,

one of them resembles the big decorations in the new [REDACTED]

[bitter shale]

tell me more-

[edgy sequoia]

They look very similar

[tender dune]

Its been said by the devs that sky has a rich ecology of light and dark.

[manic plank]

I like that theory but it doesnt explain the Dark Dragons

[bitter shale]

wdym by redacted-

[broken basin]

What is the prophecy?
@obsidian hemlock
Prophecy was the word used by devs in the teaser for a new season, we still are very confused about it, at least I am, so I will only suggest to wait for a while for more Teasers

[edgy sequoia]

I wanna tell you but

it's not even released in beta yet

[bitter shale]

@edgy sequoia dm me-

[edgy sequoia]

okie

[tender dune]

Hacked/beta content shouldn't be discussed here so please refrain from talking further

Keep it #lore-discussion-spoilers

[bitter shale]

noted

[manic plank]

I think in order for the King to gain more power from the darkness was to steal others lights first which explains why the dark creatures attack the childern of light or just light creatures in general

[silver sequoia]

Is it possible the the king's corruption might have caused an imbalance of light and dark?

That was the first question that came to mind

[manic plank]

possible, but from what I understand the world of Sky is purely light

[tender dune]

Its been said by the devs that sky has a rich ecology of light and dark.
^^

[manic plank]

ahh

i didnt know that

[tender dune]

So darkness and light might have always been in balance

[heady sequoia]

i dont like how megabird is called megan
why?
thats my name-

[tender dune]

Is it possible the the king's corruption might have caused an imbalance of light and dark?
Its possible since some theorize that the king caused the eden diamond to shatter = causing the storm = causing total annihilation = imbalance

[hushed steeple]

You are the god @heady sequoia

[heady sequoia]

i-

XD

[thin dirge]

Megan was created as Megabird's nickname cause of accidental autocorrect

[manic plank]

ahh that makes sense

[hushed steeple]

Megabird headcanon celestial Krill just look at the legs

[tender dune]

So its a fanmade name usually said here in this channel xD

[manic plank]

Especially since Eden is basically a castle, So in the castle they were holding the crystal that keeps everything in balance

[tender dune]

Some say they created the diamond

[heady sequoia]

yeash i know but-
imagine glancing at #lore-discussion-spoilers and seeing someone say
"[your name] is a celestial krill"

[tender dune]

My theory says the diamond has always been there

[manic plank]

Same

Like it was the core of the Sky world

[heady sequoia]

yeah...

[thin dirge]

I just couldn't help but having the idea that the Prince/King and our Skid both represents the two sides of how children can be

Since Prince was depicted as skid sized, I imagined them being no different from us

Being a kid

[heady sequoia]

oh.

[lilac stone]

Hear me out, the dark creatures were made by mega bird as a means to gain control of the kingdoms, just saying

[tender dune]

Yeah. Cant message link my theory sadly

[hushed steeple]

(I’m sorry about that beep)

[heady sequoia]

megan is pure dont say that

[silver forge]

@edgy sequoia hey I know new content is exciting, but please don’t discuss or tease content that isn’t even in beta version. TGC hasn’t released things yet for a reason. Please respect tgcs work on the game and not discuss things before they are ready to be officially revealed.

[bitter shale]

light. darkness. long ago, the two elements live in harmony. then everything change attackedd when the King

[thin dirge]

Megan seems to be pure ligjt, so I can't see her making dark creatures

[heady sequoia]

its ok it creeps me out but i like being god

[manic plank]

I think Mega bird is god that recycles souls from the human world to the sky world and vice versa

[thin dirge]

They seem to be a counterpart to Mantas

[lilac stone]

I'm just saying because i liked the bricky theory

[heady sequoia]

maybe?

[tender dune]

All theories are welcome, this isnt a judge your theories channel

[thin dirge]

Also, wow, this place is busy. O.O

[heady sequoia]

my skychild was a human

--

[lilac stone]

If Megan is god then IT controls all creation of life, right??

[bitter shale]

i kinda imagine megan is like Kaname Madoka god version from Puella Magica

[lilac stone]

*creation of all life

Sorry

[thin dirge]

Well, I kinda see Megan as... Heaven, but sentient

Like sentient heaven? Idk

But that's kinda how I see her

[heady sequoia]

Well, in my theory dark creatures were made artificially
the people slapped evil dust onto celestial krill

[bitter shale]

a living heaven? that can be a good concept

[lilac stone]

Her?

[thin dirge]

Also a heavenly, living, sentient galaxy of Sky

[heady sequoia]

h e r

[thin dirge]

I'm just calling it her-

[heady sequoia]

mm yes we share the same gender

brb

[broken basin]

The chat becomes extremely active as soon as I leave🥺

[thin dirge]

Also, I somehow feel like there's not many evidence that the King is evil

[hushed steeple]

A great celestial lettuce

[thin dirge]

In one concept, the Prince was unlucky and just got cursed by the dark stones

[manic plank]

If Sky has a balance of both Light and Dark then Is it possible that there are Childern of the Dark? Like is there a place purely for darkness or does the light keep it in check all the time for it to not be possible

[tender dune]

Most of the theories are king is bad u rarely see king is good theories

[hushed steeple]

Have you seen the faceless kids?

[tender dune]

U mean the indifferent taki? Or maskless cosmetic or??

[thin dirge]

No, I think they're referring to the maskless cosmetic

[hushed steeple]

Maybe king actually sacrificed the Eden to stop the Dark creatures from reaching it up to Orbit cuz they wanted to use it for conquering the world

[heady sequoia]

can someone post megabird concept art

[manic plank]

I don't think the King was bad. More like, he just couldn't handle the power he thought he could control

[tender dune]

Its in the pins @heady sequoia

[hushed steeple]

cough cough Laputa cough

[heady sequoia]

gasp

[thin dirge]

Well, strangely enough, all the light creatures actually use the beam of the diamond to go to Megan

[tribal knoll]

lmao what if the portals are time machines and we’re traveling through time to figure out what happened to the world to make it so barren of “human” life

[bitter shale]

@tribal knoll now thats can makes sense too

[heady sequoia]

woah....

[thin dirge]

Oh, that theory

[tribal knoll]

i say “human” bc idk what species the elders and spirits are lol

[hushed steeple]

I just made the connection that lettuce has a butterfly and light was turned into butterflies in game fjkajjas

[bitter shale]

uhhhhh sky people

lmao

[thin dirge]

But there's many plotholes in that time theory

[heady sequoia]

i- XD

[thin dirge]

Elders are stars

[bitter shale]

elders are fallen stars...

[thin dirge]

Ancestors are kinda... Human? Not stars, they turn into stars when they ded

[bitter shale]

while the child are starlights?

[heady sequoia]

skykids are also fallen stars >:)

[thin dirge]

Well, we actually dont know if they are indeed stars

[hushed steeple]

What do you call a star that falls up into the sky?

[bitter shale]

i imagined the children are splinters of fallen starlights

[tribal knoll]

in ||the ISS area in office|| there are no stars in the sky, which i find kinda fascinating and i wonder if its intentional

[thin dirge]

There's the King=Us theory

[hushed steeple]

That’s.... unsettling

[tender dune]

No need for spoilers. Also office isn't lore canon

[thin dirge]

Well, our skykid definitely has some connection to the King

[heady sequoia]

what about the glowy thing on their chest?
MAYBE THEY ARE PEICES OF A SHATTERED STAR

[bitter shale]

im more relied to the prince = us lmao

[tribal knoll]

ah ok

[hushed steeple]

WHY THEY HAVE THREE EYES

[thin dirge]

Nah, that's just a candle flame in our chest

[short owl]

Hmm... Spirits are heavily tied to the constilation, bit are not stars themselves. What if spirits are ancestors who have bits of star gifted to them?

[tender dune]

Is it 3 eyes or 2 eyes and a dot?

[mild lark]

That is their candl light

[tribal knoll]

but also in orbit after eden, during the flight where eden falls apart the sky has no stars either if i remember right

[hushed steeple]

Stars are actually balls of candle flame in space

[thin dirge]

I imagined souls are pretty much stars of the Megabird

[mild lark]

Scientifically accurate

[bitter shale]

stars are burning wax ball

[thin dirge]

How did this chat become so active all of a sudden???

[mild lark]

Idk

[thin dirge]

Did I miss something???

[tender dune]

It's been getting more active a few weeks ago

[heady sequoia]

the dot on the head is a peice of a shattered star and kiddos make freins cause they wanna be whole again

[silver sequoia]

Okay now I kinda remember what my baby theory was. It's not much but-

The Vault and Eden. Why are they separate? Like wouldn't it make some sense to already be in Eden when you complete the Vault?

And how the floors are represented by the previous realms. Does that imply that there were information about previous areas we aren't aware of?

Is there a possibility that the vault was like a massive library or archive that held recorded moments of the past that we have no idea of existing at the moment?

[short owl]

After the stars fell, thir constilations may not have forgotten them. Unable to just show up and fix the problem, they may have sent gifts down to the planet to be carried by ancestors

[hushed steeple]

Maybe because our source and embodiment of light got on here?

[thin dirge]

(Gosh, this is gonna invite slow mode soon-)

[mild lark]

PTSD

[heady sequoia]

yes

[bitter shale]

so i like to imagine like this :

• Megan is the sole deity who create stars
• the stars are elders
• the ancestors are the living being who got power from the stars
• the skykids are starlights

[hushed steeple]

The Vault is like sealed off and GW was destroyed in a war to steal its secrets

[thin dirge]

Well, our character is definitely somehow related to the King

[heady sequoia]

yes i make stars

no i feel like the sky kids are shattered stars-

[thin dirge]

Remember the crown constellation in the Vault Cutscene?

[tribal knoll]

what if skykids are the flesh and bone and the light children are souls, and some big accident somehow separated the body from the soul and collecting the lights is piecing together bits of their souls, so we give pieces of our soul back to the fallen in eden because they lost their souls

[hushed steeple]

Like cold pieces of a dead star?

[heady sequoia]

:)

yes

[tender dune]

Ur talking like sky = Hnk

[tribal knoll]

yeah i kinda am akshsjgd

[thin dirge]

Remember this?

The pic

[bitter shale]

da crown

[heady sequoia]

tiny little glowing peices that still have thought

[bitter shale]

yeh

[tribal knoll]

hnk reminds me of sky tbh

[hushed steeple]

We be honking intelligently here

[bitter shale]

what is hnk

[mild lark]

What is hnk?

[tribal knoll]

houseki no kuni

[tender dune]

Anime

[bitter shale]

[mild lark]

Oh wow

[hushed steeple]

It’s not honk?

[heady sequoia]

honktm

[bitter shale]

ohhhhh houseki no kuni!!!

[tribal knoll]

its an anime/manga thats really good

[thin dirge]

(I feel like this does need slow mode-)

[bitter shale]

noooo

[thin dirge]

(Cause I just got ignored-)

[mild lark]

I'm don't watch anime too much

[tribal knoll]

:( slowmode is bad

[tender dune]

The crown constellation is also the friend constellation at home

[heady sequoia]

yes

[mild lark]

Guys don't type so fast

[tribal knoll]

crown constellation is king propaganda

[tender dune]

Im reading your messages butterfly im just waiting for the whole topic/conclusion

[thin dirge]

Yeah, the crown constellation at home is canonically meant to be the same one in the Vault Cutscene

[hushed steeple]

Is that’s a crown in orbit??

[thin dirge]

They only changed the constellation for technical purposes

Yeah, it was at the older version of Sky

[bitter shale]

if the crown constellation is indeed king propaganda... is that mean our friends are the king spies-

[thin dirge]

[bitter shale]

[mild lark]

[silver sequoia]

[tender dune]

Or it means that we are the king reincarnated

[hushed steeple]

King is actually manipulating us all to make favorite friends so he can siphon the magic of friendship and restore his soul power

[bitter shale]

alright ya all calm down befor ethe mod gib us slowmode here-

[mild lark]

Act like slow mode is active

[silver sequoia]

These are very interesting takes

[thin dirge]

I have the belief that we're actually the next Prince, someone who's gonna take their place in a way?

Since Skids are meant to be a new generation after all

[hushed steeple]

What if we’re all competing?

[bitter shale]

i really like the theory that the Prince is actually us or part of us

sounds more dramatic for me and i love dramatic stuff

[lilac stone]

What if we are a part of prince

[thin dirge]

Well, there's also my theory/headcanon the the Prince got split into two or something when they fell, and we're born from their corpse physical body, and the soul became King

[lilac stone]

All the skykids' are

[wind arch]

We are kind of competing to be the child that gets furthest towards the ♦️ in a way some concepts said that the strongest of us saves the rest along with the child that we hug

[lilac stone]

Parts of prince

??

[tribal knoll]

the king somehow was defeated in a (the?) war and his soul was shattered into a million pieces which were scatted across sky kingdom, but some formed into skykids

[mild lark]

I think eden did that

Or megabird

[lilac stone]

@tribal knoll what I was thinking that as well

[tribal knoll]

isnt eden like a huge war or smthn

[thin dirge]

Well, there's also my theory/headcanon the the Prince got split into two or something when they fell, and we're born from their corpse physical body, and the soul became King

[bitter shale]

alright i gotta grab lunch lmao, hope you guys got something interetsing

[mild lark]

You know megabird just woooooosh hard enough and end the world

[tender dune]

There are theories like that u said qtaro (just try to keep ur sentence whole so they don't get swooped by the incoming text)

[mild lark]

[thin dirge]

Did this... chat just die down?

[tender dune]

isnt eden like a huge war or smthn
Eden used to be a castle. Diamond boom caused a storm

[thin dirge]

Wow, it really did die down

[mild lark]

I also wonder how a diamond can explode

[thin dirge]

Well it holds energy, I can see it exploding

[mild lark]

wait is the catapult is yeeting explosive diamond?

[tender dune]

I know i call it kaboom but i think it's like an overflow from the shattered part

[thin dirge]

Though, an intersting part of the diamond is that its beam actually guides all the creatures to Megan

Somehow feels significant

[silver sequoia]

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing

[thin dirge]

Especially with the fact the the stars can't just fly back to the sky after the fall

[silver sequoia]

I thought it was odd

[mild lark]

You become meteorite

[wispy canopy]

Hey guys, teth, smiley, butterfly

What's the topic

[thin dirge]

Idk

This chat fired up a bit

[mild lark]

It's all about king

[wispy canopy]

Fired up bout what

I see

[hushed steeple]

Why do I hug a child and find a single one in orbit despite saving no one

[mild lark]

Hmm guys I think king is somewhat smart

[silver sequoia]

Can you elaborate Smiley?

[hushed steeple]

Does anyone think the lines of light creatures resemble galactic filaments?

[thin dirge]

Just searched it up, that seems interesting....

[mild lark]

If king is the leader.. then maybe the one that order the construction of all the cities is king..
And he know give the builder solutions like how to cut a mountain in half or build a factory to make diamond

[thin dirge]

Or the King made the people do hard labour like a dicta

[mild lark]

I can see a leader being the smartest.. but he the king so.. monarchy doesn't do well sometimes

That what a king will do butterfly.. at least in history

[thin dirge]

Also, why do you guys think all the light creatures somehow flock to Eden to get to Megan? That part seems to stick out to me a lot

[mild lark]

not to mention sla-

I honestly can see that happening

[thin dirge]

If the Diamond is meant to be a bad thing, then why are all Light creatures use it to get to Megan

[mild lark]

Maybe because it supposed to be a good thing

[thin dirge]

Maybe

[mild lark]

But some how king do something with it and explode

[silver sequoia]

Maybe the King corrupted the Diamond, causing it to explode?

[thin dirge]

There was a theory somewhere that it was there so that they could return to Megan, but seeing how things were going great with society, I don't think that would be the case

I honestly just see it as some Diamond used to power civilisation

Maybe with what happened with the Diamond, over time, the Light Creatures learned to follow the beam to Eden?

I mean, a lot of time passed from when it first exploded to our Skid coming into the picture, sooo...

Though, it feels like a sharp contrast from all the Krills around the area and the crystals that zap all your light

Maybe that's just on ground

[mild lark]

the diamond is sucking the planet's light for megabird

Megabird is the villain after all

[thin dirge]

What if it actually is???

[mild lark]

Kinda make sense you know

Megabird is huge

So megabird come to a galaxy and suck away all of the resources

And vanished

[thin dirge]

Eh, I see the Megabird being kind of a Galaxy itself, but sentient and is also kinda like heaven, so I'm not sure about the idea

But any interpretation is valid-

[mild lark]

So now megabird is big damn anomalies that destroy the surrounding galaxy

[thin dirge]

Galaxies do end up swallowing up other ones like ours

[mild lark]

My interpretation is somehow related to doom .. so

[thin dirge]

Our Galaxy will collide with another the exact same size in about 5 billion years from now. :D

[tender dune]

crackpot theory!!
What if they tried digging into the naturally existing eden diamond but their digging was a mistake because it caused the shatter + overflow = imbalance of light-darkness = annihilation due to their greedy mistake

[mild lark]

Andromeda

[thin dirge]

I like space

When I was younger, I kept reading Andromeda as Android in my head for some reason

And I still kinda do

But this is off topic so BACK TO LORE

[hushed steeple]

Light powers tech like in Ori and Blind Forest
(And maybe Atlantis lost enpire)

[mild lark]

Omg I can't unsee it now

[thin dirge]

XD

[mild lark]

Did this boat crash or something

It seem broken

[thin dirge]

Actually, it looks like it sunk...

Was that place originally sand

[mild lark]

It in isle

The other part

Like the big mountain

[thin dirge]

Oh, so it must've sunk in the sand, before grass started growing on it

It does have moss on the jars too

[mild lark]

You go to a cloud tunnel

[thin dirge]

Oh yeah, that part

[mild lark]

I think stone will not break if it sunk

I think that should be related to stone deterioration

I can't pronounce deterioration without splitting my tounge

[edgy sequoia]

anyone else think that the credits song might be a lullaby for the skykid as Megabird ushers them back to home?

[silver sequoia]

Interesting thought actually

[edgy sequoia]

It's one of my theories actually

most are crackpots

But seriously though

the credits could be good lullaby material

[mild lark]

What is lullaby?

[edgy sequoia]

lull·a·by
/ˈlələˌbī/
noun
a quiet, gentle song sung to send a child to sleep.

@mild lark

[sly kestrel]

It seem broken
@mild lark .....literally almost every boat in game is broken

and that one shocks u 😳

[tender dune]

I mean. It is a very mossy boat

[hushed steeple]

I water it

[edgy sequoia]

:0

revive

[dense umbra]

Is it just me or does this part kinda looks like a crab & its eyes remind me of crabs too

[thin dirge]

Forest mama is a crab mama?!?!

[kind bobcat]

Isn't that supposed to be forest mom's face 👁️ 👄 👁️

forest mom has a cRAb fACe

[dense umbra]

What exacly is forest mom? A sipirit we get there or just a nickname

What do we know about her

[kind bobcat]

Forest mom is a nickname for the forest elder

And i dont really see a resemblance between crabs and her face

[dense umbra]

Oh i see is it the elder with long hair

[kind bobcat]

Well, yes.

[dense umbra]

There is quiet a resemblance actually in its shape

[kind bobcat]

The forest elder.

[inland narwhal]

Any ideas??

[dense umbra]

With crabs

[kind bobcat]

@inland narwhal old concept.

[thin dirge]

It looks like the painted gold had worn off over time

[kind bobcat]

Has the old design of the prairie elder's mask

It seems tgc experimented with moss with that model when they were making the concepts.

[dense umbra]

May I ask the diffrence between those two symbols? The top one looks like the princes mask/face & the bottom one?

[kind bobcat]

I think it's more of a gameplay thing.

The top one is a big blessing

And the bottom one is a normal/small blessing

[dense umbra]

Oki

I just assumed that maybe like the smaller simple blessings are giving by the spirits but the special powerful one originates from the prince or something more powerful

[broken basin]

So this was the old intro text

"the prophecy promised its children would return to restore the light"

"Beaware the prophecy"

[thin dirge]

Yeah, I actually had a headcanon that all events that haooened in Sky and the past were foretold in a Proohecy

Also, with the blessings

[broken basin]

Idk if this tells something
Just gives a hint of what the prophecy might be

[thin dirge]

The big blessing kinda reminds me of the King, but corrupted, since all points are jagged for that blessing

[broken basin]

So, here the falling of the kingdom is called a prophecy

[thin dirge]

While the small blessing reminds me of the King before being corrupt

[hushed steeple]

Anyone know the lore about this bird boi?

[thin dirge]

Want a boring answer?

[broken basin]

It's nothing, it was just an old beta quest

[thin dirge]

Its just an easter egg from Beta

[hushed steeple]

I’ll take any answer

[thin dirge]

Yeah, that

[broken basin]

That's the boring answer

[hushed steeple]

Oooh

[broken basin]

I don't have any interesting answer tho

Might be the guiding bird from isle

Who died of cold when it reached valley :(

[thin dirge]

Since Mantas have Elders, could that be the Elder bird??

Eh, maybe not

[broken basin]

But the elder Manta isn't even canon

It was in concepts

[thin dirge]

Oh yeah

[hushed steeple]

It could be the physical incarnation of Megabird

But that’s just a crackpot theory with no evidence lol

[edgy sequoia]

But the elder Manta isn't even canon
@broken basin I think tgc revived the elder manta concept for Sanctuary

[broken basin]

Really?

Wait, but,........ I have never seen it?

[edgy sequoia]

ah it's still in beta

for the last memory fragment

[cedar radish]

I think I saw it. Many flap flaps.

[echo trellis]

I think this might be the best chat to ask this in as I can’t think of any to which it applies: what does limited availability mean on the elder hairs? I assume the spaces between the ones I’ve unlocked so far are the ones I’ve yet to get. Are they going to take away the current ultimate gifts and replace them with something else? What does limited availability mean?

[edgy sequoia]

elder hair

[echo trellis]

Yes I am aware of that, but what does limited availability mean

[edgy sequoia]

Probably for people who have completed the constellation?

I'm not sure

:p

[echo trellis]

Aight

[edgy sequoia]

try asking about it in #questions-and-help

maybe they'll help!

[solar relic]

just made a crackpot theory/had a morbid thought: what if skids's souls (the blue spirit they shatter into when they die) were literal babies/children that were from the time of the ancestors? think baby kinda young, around there, or even unborn - still in the womb. to give them a chance at a life they didn't get to live out their souls were transferred onto the bodies of skids

then again that contradicts my theory of skids carrying bits of the king's soul in them

[thin dirge]

My theory about this is that the skids are like... Born from the Prince's corpse original physical body, since the Prince's soul and body got seperated somehow when they fell

[hushed steeple]

What is lore

[stone rivet]

When you call them skids, I cant help but yhink skid marks

[edgy sequoia]

What is lore
@hushed steeple

Hello new Lore Moff!
Read this short document to get started! Once you’ve read this, check out pins for more information.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit

I stole it from Bricky btw

[hushed steeple]

@edgy sequoia Thanks

[edgy sequoia]

Np!

[inner comet]

Isle elder's headpiece kinda looks like a boat

[thin dirge]

Yeah, it is a boat

Each mask represents what they're affliated with

[inner comet]

Oh that actually makes sense

Prairie elder doesnt have a headpiece tho
But his pigtails kinda look like butterflies

[thin dirge]

The Prarie Elder does have a headpiece

Its a pot

You know, like the mask you can get from the Prarie cobstellation

That's Prarie Elder's headpiece

[inner comet]

I dont remember him having one i-

Hold up

[inland narwhal]

Is it me or this paths are unnatural? There’s no way vault’s scholars would risk harming the building surrounding so much information they stored. Was the vault attacked?

[topaz girder]

what if krill attac vault

[thin dirge]

It deteriorated

[fallow swallow]

Is it me or this paths are unnatural? There’s no way vault’s scholars would risk harming the building surrounding so much information they stored. Was the vault attacked?

You got a point haha
Yeah, now that I'm thinking about it the basement looks pretty messy

[inland narwhal]

It deteriorated
@thin dirge deteriorated and created a perfect path.

[solar relic]

someone probably broke in

[fallow swallow]

It deteriorated
I don't think so, those holes don't look natural at all

[solar relic]

we should have interrogated belonging grandpa while we could 😔, he was inside

[inland narwhal]

we should have interrogated belonging grandpa while we could 😔, he was inside
@solar relic resurrect grandpa!!

Grandpa too tired to come back.

[thin dirge]

Maybe it was something to do with the crabs?

It kinda reminds me of what termites do

Wait, are crabs termites-

[mild lark]

Termite don't have eyes

[delicate coral]

I also think somebody broke into the archives. We already know that they contain restricted/forbidden knowledge from one of the live-streams, so it wouldn’t be too much of a stretch to suppose that somebody wanted access to that knowledge.

I would also guess that the people breaking in probably were opposed to the king, and likely also had something to do with the civil war and the battle in wasteland.

[solar relic]

bit of a stretch but

what if the enchantment spirits were the ones who broke in and escaped in the ark

[delicate coral]

What was their motive?

[modest finch]

Knowledge ?

[delicate coral]

One would think there was a specific piece of knowledge that was being stored there that they were after though right?

[solar relic]

indeed

actually that was a spontaneous thought i had , but they did have lights that represented different kinds of knowledge iirc

[delicate coral]

Oh yeah, I could see that happening - they went there seeking spell-making knowledge or something and pulled a heist

Not exactly sure that a huge ark is the best getaway vehicle though

[solar relic]

considering that there's no other spell shop in sky, that's possible actually

[modest finch]

Well if they valued safety over speed then ark is probably good

[broken basin]

But still the entrance is not damaged??
Oh WAIT.....maybe... That's not the .....actual entrance

[solar relic]

i remember jay said that the spirits could have changed into different clothing however to disguise themselves (though he has a different theory from me)

so that may be why they weren't so concerned about getting away quick

[broken basin]

Maybe that floor door was made after the raid

[modest finch]

What if they blasted a hole in the wall first

[broken basin]

But if there's any other entrance, it's not open for us to see

[modest finch]

The one where the purple light is maybe ?

[broken basin]

Yeah, that place is all broken

And the time is stopped at that place

[delicate coral]

I don’t think the problem is the quick getaway, it’s hiding the ark so that it doesn’t get commandeered by the king’s forces while they’re in vault

[solar relic]

ahh true

[delicate coral]

Unless of course the ark was floating in midair outside vault through a hole in the wall or something

ie another entrance from outside the vault itself?

[solar relic]

wait i should post this in #sky-memes brb

[broken basin]

Well, this is what I think, but this contradicts with the enchantment theory I was following :(
The lightseekers spirits find the white light, they give it to the vault scholars, they still don't know what to do with them, by the time belonging starts , they build a secret hidden area to research about the light so that know one can know it exists.
They did something and split the white light into 6 coloured ones ( these colours are mostly rainbow's Colors which if mixed up create white)
The enchantment spirits broke in and stole the lights and escaped back to the wasteland???

[delicate coral]

Just to confirm, is there a connection between the lights and the archives, that we know of?

[solar relic]

as of now no

light orbs haven't been found in archives, only outside in the first floor

[broken basin]

No confirmation

[solar relic]

so this is pure speculation

[broken basin]

Yep

[finite falcon]

Those lights were in every realm

Ark and shipwreck are close i think

[delicate coral]

Okay cool, just wanted to make sure I wasn’t missing something (since my own personal theory doesn’t currently involve enchantment/light seekers spirits)

[solar relic]

ooo what's it about?

[delicate coral]

Well there’s essentially no basis for it, but I think that the break-in is related to the prophecy that’s been hinted at for the next season. Essentially I think that the prophecy predicts that the king will misuse his power and cause the apocalypse, and as such it’s sealed away in the depths of the archives, since the king wants to keep it away from the spirits so they don’t find out about it and rebel. The only hitch with that is - oh no, they found out somehow. So basically the spirits stage a civil war to get hold of the prophecy and find out if they’re correct about the king destroying the world. That’s why they’ve put vault under siege and then blasted their way through archives, because they probably suspect that the king is close to doing bad tings with the giant diamond in Eden... as you may have guessed, they would end up being too late in this theory, since civilisation is destroyed by the time we’re in the game.

[solar relic]

that does explain why vault looks like it was very much protected in gw

[delicate coral]

Yeah, because basically the king is hiding all his secrets there... Additionally, since the king is the idol of the elders, they would be compliant in keeping this secret safe (especially the vault and wasteland elders)

Obviously there’s not too much to go on with the prophecy as of yet, but that’s my working theory about how it fits in with what we know

[solar relic]

it does give a lot of food for thought, since as of now that is a possibility

[hushed steeple]

Anyone here know why the Sky People revered the mantas?

We see mantas depicted in their art and murals a lot.

[solar relic]

i don't think i've seen a lot of murals of mantas actually, but there are a bunch of manta symbols around in mainly isle-forest

it seems that mantas were very important to the ancestors as they may have been used in the production of power diamonds, which are very important to the sky kingdom

[hushed steeple]

Oh wow

So..... the ancestors used the mantas to make the diamonds????

[solar relic]

you know the structure in the middle of forest temple? some of us think mantas may have been crushed in there to create power diamonds

combined with other materials

[delicate coral]

Hm I didn’t think that the production of artificial stars started until the arrival of the elders

[solar relic]

yeah, i think that too

[kind bobcat]

Yeah, i assume the forest elder invented the diamonds

Since her cutscene soundtrack name is literally "The Invention"

[hushed steeple]

you know the structure in the middle of forest temple? some of us think mantas may have been crushed in there to create power diamonds

Holy crap O-O

[delicate coral]

And I was also under the impression that the manta imagery was probably symbolic of the original (pre-elder) spirituality of the ancestors

[kind bobcat]

The symbols could've just meant light creatures in general

In isle, they seem to be birds

and in forest it seemed to be mantas

[solar relic]

i think mio sent a pic of a mural in isle that shows what looks like isle elder to be summoning the birds like they did in the cutscene

manta symbols can be found on the isle temple door and in forest, e.g. around the power diamond machine in the centre of the temple

[delicate coral]

Oh ya indeed I forgot about the manta imagery around the star machine

[dense umbra]

Forest

Manta symbols

Even tho here they call jellyfish

[solar relic]

the manta symbol is more triangular in shape - those symbols look more like birds, might be the ones flying in the background of that photo

[delicate coral]

Technically it would be possible for both to represent mantas - the king imagery also becomes more angular as we move on from isle/prarie

So maybe it’s just a case of angular = industrialisation

[solar relic]

the bell ones there look more like the bird symbols in the isle mural
the manta symbol has been consistent from isle and forest though, but that could be possible too

[lyric isle]

Considering the likely endangered state of mantas, the Sanctuary archipelago might as well be - well, a sanctuary to let mantas breed and repopulate, and simply live safely.

There are clearly some spirits against this processing.

Say, Sanct Questgiver

[dense umbra]

Any manta bell pics?

To compare

[solar relic]

this is what i'm referring to by the way, the isle mural of birds

[delicate coral]

Oh indeed, I forgot about that mural

[lyric isle]

Dalet had avian traits in early concept

[delicate coral]

Yeah it’s probably safe to say they’re meant to be birds then, unless for some reason the elder is meant to be depicted with mantas instead of the birds we see in the cutscene

[dense umbra]

Were are all the birds ruching to in forest?

[lyric isle]

Could be bird migration

You know some fly elsewhere for the winter

[dense umbra]

I don't think that applies here

[bitter shale]

Dalet had avian traits in early concept
What is Avian trait? Bird-like trait?

[solar relic]

they go past the temple, past the sunny forest and up the tunnel, after that i don't think we see those birds anymore

[delicate coral]

Considering the likely endangered state of mantas, the Sanctuary archipelago might as well be - well, a sanctuary to let mantas breed and repopulate, and simply live safely.
@lyric isle I really like that take on it btw, it seems to fit very well

[lyric isle]

I really really think Questgiver might as well be a conservation activist

the other spirits are just people having fun on the beach that they run into along the way

and befriend

Clearly passionate about nature, as they help Bookworm open up by showing her the wonders of it

[bitter shale]

I love the theory of sanctuary islands are just for having fun and taking rest

I love that scene so much

[lyric isle]

Also may I point out

you know the concept art of the different kinds (subspecies?) of manta

We’re procedurally being shown all of them

[solar relic]

o yes! that, since that is the case then we may most likely get that big one too

hold on, let me get the tomcept for that

[lyric isle]

I’m pretty certain that will be the final cutscene

I’m calling it

[bitter shale]

Yep! Its tommorow right?

[solar relic]

i bet all my seasonal candles it will come out

yep!

[bitter shale]

gosh i cant waittt-

[solar relic]

this one!

[lyric isle]

Yep

That’s the one

[bitter shale]

Wuh... tahts a manta?? I thought it was some kind of whale!

[solar relic]

tis an elder manta

[lyric isle]

Some sort of subspecies

maybe crossbreed

[bitter shale]

They are so beautiful

[lyric isle]

[bitter shale]

Is that mean butterfly are manta fetus?

[solar relic]

i notice that elder manta has a mask on. the whale has a mask on too. i think sky animals that wear masks are elders of their species, that might be why the whale goes up to orbit with us - they are an elder as well

whale is the 7th eden elder we never got

[lyric isle]

Whale is Alef

[delicate coral]

I didn’t realise the whale was wearing a mask

[solar relic]

it looks like a mask, but even if it isn't it definitely stands out from the rest of the body

[delicate coral]

I see, I’ll have to go get a closeup when I do my next Eden run

[solar relic]

please do hehe

[lyric isle]

I’m reminded of how much I miss the Enchantment gang

I’ll probably burst into happy tears upon seeing one as a TS

at long last we meet again

[solar relic]

though this is a tomcept it seems that the whale's design seems to have been kept pretty much intact as far as i know

[lyric isle]

I confess I cried

[bitter shale]

sanctuary gang rise up

The pain of andro user

[lyric isle]

Saw only the very end of Enchantment and hates it gang

[solar relic]

enchantment came around the time android release for sky came, anyway we do be getting a bit off lore

i miss them too as an enchantment kid 😔

[bitter shale]

I get interested to sky when sanctuary started lmao-

[hushed steeple]

me too

[bitter shale]

Anywya

[swift helm]

I only interested with the tassels👀

[bitter shale]

Im interested with alef tbh

Like

We didnt know anything about him

And yet he is soemhow important to the game

By alef i mean the Prince

[solar relic]

king is important to the lore, but prince's existence is unknown

[bitter shale]

Yeha the king too

I wonder what will happen if tgc didnt scrapped the turret idea tbh

It might can be a clue about king's personality

[solar relic]

i don't think any of us would know there was a king in game without coming here/looking at concept art actually

[peak ore]

the first cutscene made reference to the king... I started to think about it there, but nothing reinforce that later in the game so I kinda forgot about it

[broken basin]

oohhh old memories, mr turban watched me grow🥺🥺

[bitter shale]

I know about the king when i observe GW tbh. Those pillars looks so humanoid and i was thought it was an elder

And then i goes to yt

And find someone making theories about it

[solar relic]

i only found out what reinforced the concept of there being a sky king/eden elder way later on, it makes me go 'ohhh right!', but i can understand how many may have not noticed

someone makes sky theories on yt? ohmy, never seen that before

[bitter shale]

Yeah, but i think they deleted the video already

Likely because lacks of viewer? Their theories are good tbh

[dense umbra]

What do you think those gokden things we find in sanctuary quests are? Old ruins of some sort?

[bitter shale]

Bells?

Tehy are some kind of bells i think

[solar relic]

yep they are bells, they're the same as the ones you see in the village area in prairie, below prairie temple

that's a bat cape role

[bitter shale]

prairie have villages??

[broken basin]

Oh

[solar relic]

it's called a village area in the wiki

[bitter shale]

Oh ._. Lemme check on it

[solar relic]

it's a fanmade name though, i think? i'm not too sure so don't take my word for it

[dense umbra]

Are they the same bells we see in sanctuary that call new creatures?

[mellow sable]

they're prayer bells!

[solar relic]

also, there's a bell on top of the eden gate, that's where the ding dong ding ding dongs come from in homespace

[mellow sable]

oh, you mean the bane of my musical career

[broken basin]

Prairie's areas are all named. I think some of them might be fan-made but I'm not sure
Butterfly fields
Birds' nest
Sanctuary Islands
Caves
Village
8 player puzzle
Temple

I can realte @mellow sable

Literally everytime I start PLAYING
DING DONG DING DONG

[dense umbra]

Bells are another mystery i guess they were made by spirits? They have there language symbols on it

[lethal stump]

it goes off every 15 minutes, so plan accordingly

[solar relic]

mornin brick

[lethal stump]

There are spirits named « Bellmaker » it’s safe to assume they made the bells

mornin res

[mellow sable]

wdym plan I play when I want

morning

[thin dirge]

There's also a bell for Isle, I heard?

[mellow sable]

yes indeed

it rings every hour

[thin dirge]

But that rings every hour

[lethal stump]

no physical one tho

[thin dirge]

Yeah

[mellow sable]

the accursed thing

[dense umbra]

Well why do you think these bells are just left there & we have to look for them

[thin dirge]

i wonder why there's also a bell for Isle...

[mellow sable]

shut up gramps I know what time it is let me play music in peace

[thin dirge]

XD

[dense umbra]

They're not the sanctuary bells none of em is missing

[mellow sable]

the isle bell is actually from the temple!

[broken basin]

They are there to remind Players that it's been 1 hour already

[thin dirge]

Oh

That's interesting...

[mellow sable]

but I gotta wonder

[thin dirge]

But why Isle only???

[mellow sable]

how and why is it still ringing

[thin dirge]

Isle Elder is SPECIAL

[mellow sable]

ringing bells summon light creatures

could it be a metaphor for the elders summoning us?

[thin dirge]

Oh yeah, the Isle Elder is the only one seen actually summoning birds

[lethal stump]

but we arent light creatures

[dense umbra]

Are we?

[thin dirge]

He could be the only one who could somehow guide light creatures

[mellow sable]

we're """light""" creatures

[thin dirge]

Which is why he has a bell

[lethal stump]

we’re hybrids, light & dark

[mellow sable]

heavy quotations

[solar relic]

in other words, yesn't?

[mellow sable]

because of what happens in orbit

[thin dirge]

Thats in the concept tho

[mellow sable]

yesn't yes

[thin dirge]

That we're hybrids

[mellow sable]

nope

[thin dirge]

???????????

[mellow sable]

light creatures die when krilled

[lethal stump]

we literally see a dark and light half come together to form us in eden ???

[mellow sable]

we just lose our flame

the dead skykids are the dark half

also

[thin dirge]

I thought that was a seperate character from us....

[mellow sable]

how exactly do we absorb light?

does it go into the core on your chest?

[thin dirge]

Yeah, I think so?

[lethal stump]

it goes towards centre mass, just checked

[thin dirge]

But wow, I'm losing brain cells fast with this topic

[dense umbra]

Is it just game mechanics or is there an actual relation between the bells we find & the activation of the bells behind quest givers

[mellow sable]

oh btw

when snuffed out, you can still pull out your candle

so I'm thinking the candle is like

the skykid's "soul"

[solar relic]

yeah, since skids pull out wl from the centre of skids i think wl goes in the same way

[mellow sable]

candle comes from the skid core

[thin dirge]

Soooo... If the candle "breaks" our soul is...

Like, snapped in half I mean

[mellow sable]

[lethal stump]

[dense umbra]

I think it's the other way around

[mellow sable]

that's what happens in eden yes

[thin dirge]

Bricky, I can't take you seriously with that pfp

Change it

[dense umbra]

Soul - - >candles

[mellow sable]

constant rock storm breaks skid candle killing them

[solar relic]

could this be related to why there's a whole few seconds dedicated to a burning red candle in the ending credits?

[thin dirge]

Maybe?

[mellow sable]

I think so

oh

I've GOT IT

[thin dirge]

Wha?

[mellow sable]

so

you know how skids start with one wing

[thin dirge]

Yeah?

[mellow sable]

but the one wing doesn't make a cape

[lethal stump]

Bricky, I can't take you seriously with that pfp
Change it
no

[mellow sable]

you need two

[thin dirge]

??

[dense umbra]

Ever thought that our red candles never run out or burn until it's smal

[mellow sable]

the first wing is the candle

[thin dirge]

Nah, I think that's different

[mellow sable]

that's why it can regen players

[thin dirge]

Because its a light source

But not a winged light

[mellow sable]

no no

[thin dirge]

We regen through light sources like candles

We can get an extra winged light if we like... Lose all our light before Eden

[dense umbra]

Question does she actually represent something in the lore?

[thin dirge]

Idk

[lethal stump]

it’s possibly a statue of a representation of skids

[mild lark]

Look like it holding a candle

[lethal stump]

but it’s unclear what it is for sure

[mild lark]

Oh wow I didn't realize that pfp

[lethal stump]

i used to call it the mother cause she looked......idk, motherly i guess

[dense umbra]

Doesn't look like a kid

[thin dirge]

Doesn't... Look like and skid lol

[mild lark]

It look closely to the journey person

Don't you guys think?

[mellow sable]

back, had to do something

basically

[dense umbra]

She has those triangle patterns like the ones we see in spirits

[solar relic]

that statue has been in sky ever since the tomcepts, it definitely is important though i don't know what they stand for

[mellow sable]

in the intro, we see our skid get the first wing, but we don't have a cape do we?

but whenever we have zero wings any other time we die

seems strange doesn't it

[dense umbra]

She looks like she's just peacefully closing her eyes

[thin dirge]

That's because our flame also gets extinguished in that process of losing winged light

[mellow sable]

that's why I'm thinking the candle is the first wing

[thin dirge]

The intro could just depict our purpose, not showing us having a literal winged light

[mild lark]

I think that is our light

Or literal soul

[thin dirge]

We die every other time we lose all winged light because our flame gets extinguished first before losing winged lights

[dense umbra]

For the statue, she's somehow related to us skids getting hearts & hearts symbolise love & care, maybe she used to look after us, like a mom?

[lethal stump]

maybe it’s a human form of megan

[dense umbra]

🤔

She is, looking at her statue the appropriate size to be skyds mother, not too big like elders..

[lethal stump]

then of course consider megan is an all-powerful goddess, she can probably change her size and form at will

[hexed cargo]

To me the statue kinda looks like that spirit in vault of knowledge? Sorry im kinda a noob dont know their names yet

[lethal stump]

spirit or elder ?

[hexed cargo]

Oh wait whats an elder oof

[dense umbra]

Ya with head thing

[hexed cargo]

Is that the one you get a cutscene for at the end?

[lethal stump]

the people you meet at the end of a realm

[hexed cargo]

OH

yes thats who i was referring to lol

The statue resembles that elder slightly? Idk

[thin dirge]

I just made a doc about my whole interpretation of the lore of Sky

Imma gonna leave this here-

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1e6e9f7TPy6cqxqhj1txSTUuzVtmbO3QKHMJJvZqNtBM/edit?usp=drivesdk

[hexed cargo]

oo