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I think of the game as we just them in a particular point of time, & time is still that's why we don't see them grow
what are our parents then ? we cant be ancestor children, nor can we be elder children
Megabird?
/jinx
no, i’m talking in the mindset of Spring’s theory that we have parents, i’m assuming they mean biological parents
Ooo
im asking what they think parented us
because regularly, I agree that megan is our creator
why do you think they'd send kids and not adults?
(because kids are more innocent?)
i think the devs confirmed we weren't the same species as the elders or ancestors, right? though we could be a sub-species of one of them?
/i think other sky kids
Ancestors, Elders, and Skids are all different species
That's the question really but we clearly never interacted with them before they left us since we needs spirits to teach us normal gestures
the sub-species was a note from the writer not dev though
but hurting adults is ok? 
So if we have no clear indication that we have parents, and for all intents and purposes we might not even be...flesh & blood creatures, what makes you think we have parents ?
You know it bad when you punch an adult... But it will be worse when you punch a kid
they certainly don't seem like they're made of flesh and blood considering how much abuse they can take bonking into stuff at high speed
they lose light, but no broken bones or anything of the like
I think skykid is just a walking claypot
Flesh & blood isn't necessary since its not exacly based of real world but I just thought that, hearing about generations ansastors...
But we probably were made of something else
Cause else we would have already known simple gestures
they certainly don't seem like they're made of flesh and blood considering how much abuse they can take bonking into stuff at high speed
/i really like how you phrase it spear
considering how bad moffs are at flying, if we were like real children we would have So Many broken bones
i would be already dead 
which then begs the question of what person/creature thought it was a good idea to put candles inside that ice tunnel at the beginning of valley -- that's just asking to bonk into the walls at high speed 
o o p
/ i am a vet and still cant land perfectly but anyways, really makes you wonder what we're really made of, clay pots are easy broken
megan: no pain no gain kiddo
megan is not a wholly good goddess
megan: no pain no gain kiddo
/again megan has worst mom of year award on multiple occasions
we need the god cps to take the skids away from her
What if we are just little statues powered by light made as a last hope to save the kindom & sent on a quest to revive & help the spirits?
The theories that sky kids are sub species are the most interesting tbh
actually now that you mention it, the scene at stormlock does kinda make me think of the terracotta statues...
/terracotta?
Also does anyone have information about the prince? Alef, is that his name?
it's a real life thing, jen:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terracotta_Army
/aaaaah that thing
Oh ya had that in mind too
Oh those underground army statues found in china?
Wait i think i get confused here. Lemme check it again
Well tgc does love taking inspiration of old civilizations & religions
Oh wait, it is them
Guess that would make sense the most
Dunno if this will makes sense but lemme tell you my theories.
So in old days there is civilisation, but they slowly crumbled in time and soon be destroyed. So, in hope for their "kingdom" to be revived in the future, and at least not to be forgotten, they make a backup plan. They build lots of statues with their features (humanoid) and giving them some kind of light magic that will make them active after long time in the future. Those statues become the sky kids
Yeah im not jn a mood with english now, sorry for the poor phrases

/oooooh interesting!
That's a cool theory
/adding to your theories, they left ancestor spirits so that they can learn how the people used to be, and vault to leave behind knowledge of the world it once was
Kinda like the mummy movie featuring terracotta statue. The kingdom soon will destroyed, they made statues, giving them some magic so they will become alive in the future etc
(Or at least thats how i remmeber the movie about lmao)
/adding to your theories, they left ancestor spirits so that they can learn how the people used to be, and vault to leave behind knowledge of the world it once was
Now thats a good adding!
Yeah xD i was just re-phrasing it
Thankies

Also this renforces the fact that megan is there creator since she just looks like a giant stream of light & energy she probably blowed life in these statues
I think most of that makes sense, but I'm not sure about the 'long-time activation mechanism' thing. I would have thought that it'd make more sense for our life-force to be granted by either the Megabird or the Child of Light, going by the way the intro shows our hearts flaring up in response to a streak of light from the clouds
yeah what spring said
What if
The skykids statues are made in hope they will become alive and living their kingdom again after it got destroyed? They do doing some light magic in it, but to give the sky kids life is something they cant do.
Yeah, I think the general idea of spirits making skykids as a backup plan remains intact if we consider that the Megabird is their main deity, and therefore they would have faith in her to give their vessels life after all the spirits get obliterated
Yep that's the idea
Wait lemmer rephrase it again.
They asked (or prayed) to megabird for some way for their kingdom to be revived after it got destroyed (or at least be remembered).
Megan answer their prayer and asked them to build lots of statues with humanoid features.
The statues get builded, giving them some light magic for their journey in the future.
Kingdom got destroyed.
On the right time in the future, megan blows life on the statues.
Boom, skykids
/so why are we, just us, alive, and not the skid in storm lock
/did megan just picked who to save randomly
Quick thought, so apparently we meditate a lot in sky when we're doing that are we praying for megan
I suppose it might be a bit problematic reviving a skykid in the middle of stormlock
I was thinking about that too
My best guesses is, there is another former generation of skykids before us.
The older skykids generation are much more clueless. They didnt know much about their world and there is no ancestors yet, ended up revert to their original form (statues) when they reach eden
After that first generation ebcome statues in the eden, Megan blow life to make another skykids, but this time they have guides (the ancestors)
& sometimes when we "pray" /meditate we activate thing in game is that megan responding to our prayers as way of communicating?
/oh soo what you mean is their was a generation made from failures before us
& sometimes when we "pray" /meditate we activate thing in game is that megan responding to our prayers as way of communicating?
/ where would the question come from then?
Yeah!
Question ?
At first, to see if skykids can survive on their own in the ruined world Megan only blow lifes to "some" skykids statues.
That goes terribly and ended with all of them ded in eden.
Megan then asked the ancestors to go back to earth and "teach them how to live"
Megan feels sorry for the fallen sky kids, so Megan scatter their souls to every areas in kingdom in hope for the new generation to find them and bring them back to the stars
/well, when we meditate in the game for a quest usualy, there's a question that pops up
I still confused with the elders tbh. Are they like, idk, the founder of the kingdom? The ruler?
/flos the winged light are refered by the devs as Imprint of children of light?
Yeah
Huh? Is that so? I never thought it like that- 
/elders probablyy were there to make sure the ancesstors are doing their job. like the manager
Yeah
/hi Flower pod are you new
@bitter shale judging by how still kinda preserved they are in eden & the fact we still have a chance to revive them maybe it's not an old generation just our fellow sky kids who entered there & got stuck? Either way i think whatever happened in eden is pretty recent
Jen: Not really, I am a lurker though
Regular ancestors teach sky kids how to live basic life. Seasonal spirit teach how to enjoy life?
/really makes you wonder about the crab walk guy
@dense umbra that does makes some sense too...
does that mean we are the third generation of skykids
The first perished. The second got stuck in eden. The third is us?
Aww heck this is getting confusing-
I'm having second thoughts now cause if it is the case the spirits we light after reliving their memory are recent too?they are as preserved as the kids
No brothers ye shant give up
Flos geting confuzzeld
Wait who was the first generation?
Ahh so you encouraged me lmao-
Thankies

I made a complete lore explaining everything (including the seasons). Please give me feedback on this

Does tgc ever updates the doc of canon lore?
Probably if it also was confirmed or said by tgc
@hushed steeple you are telling them so good!
@bitter shale Thank you. It took me 5 months and tons of revision to make something presentable 
the first part is canon (the stuff in ""). then the bottom already states fan observations notes
/coool theory liliana!
/i like the "each elder is a cool trait" idea
/also,... do you happens to be new to lore chat....?
It’s so hard to write a complete story for this game since there are so many cutscenes, characters, landscapes, etc
It'a not a burden fit for a single person.
That's why this channel exists, so we can have big brain time with multiple brains
And you have did a great job on presenting it

liliana, i love your interpretation of the lore!! sorry i can't say much but for you to have done all that by yourself for 5 months is impressive!

@gilded fossil I’m always open; I didn’t make the doc from solely my thoughts, I have to read the crap out of reddit and youtube for this
/oh big brain!
ohoho, you'll love this place
/ well except when we get some crackpot theories, just a heads up
I keep the lore in a note to update it; just update the “flight to orbit” part today after an Eden run

Im new to this place and I already love it
/really>
Heyo, fellow lore moff

Hello new Lore Moff!
Read this short document to get started! Once you’ve read this, check out pins for more information. 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit
/ Og by -Bricky
@gilded fossil not a problem, i got kissed too many times by the krill to be sane 
ay
/yay!!!!!!\
One kiss from the krill keeps your sanity intact
we all lose our braincells here for lore and it is worth it 

/oh yea, adding to your theory liliana, the winged light is refered to devs as Imprints of Children of light
I used that as a cue to change my story
At first I just wrote then off as a star that fell, nothing to do w them being actually ppl
Tbh, im not really sure what does "imprints of Children of Lights" mean ._.
So you're saying eden has always been stormy since the beginning?
when a person has died and restored light to the sky, the person becomes a star just like the light him/her restored. Those shiny bois are probably also children like you who bring light to the world and are then honored at death by becoming a permanent light in the sky. If you choose to reborn, you become a child again to restore light when the star falls
Hope this helps explain the imprint thingy
@kind bobcat yeah, my best explanation. The statues are magical, so I doubt they would be place at somewhere easy to reach
The statues?
The blue thingy you put your stars in
Oh, the dead skykids.
Eh, i think eden and the sky kingdom predated those statues.
After all, would'nt make sense to place a bunch of fragile statues in a place where rocks rain.
I don’t think they are fragile
And also, in the opening cutscene it seems Eden wasn't always like that, and the storm could've been the cause or a consequence of the downfall of the kingdom.
When the stars fly out of the statue, it looks like the statues break, but i don’t think they do
@kind bobcat the season of prophecy may hint to that, and I’ll probably take another month to update my entire lore 
/oops liliana no beta spoilers here, besides tgc havent even started testing the new season yet!
well most of us agrees that the storm was caused by a fractured power diamond, so i dont think we would need a new season to strengthen the theory that eden wasn't always hell
/some dude hacked the game and shared it to everyone without tgc's permission!
Also, that.
Hewwo it’s been a while 
hello grandpa 
/hi Grand!
No i don’t know anything to spoil, I just say with every season comes me sitting for hours to come up with good lore

I was wondering if y’all wanted to see my elder name doc, for those who haven’t seen it
💖💖
the elder name doc?
All from concepts + the meaning behind their old hebrew names!
Ooh, that would be interesting.
When TGC started to create new areas for seasons, there went my lore. Had to make a new draft 
That’s kinda why it took long for me to be active on this channel
It’s funny that I’m excited about the new season, but if that’s going to break my lore I will personally let the krill kiss me 
new season:
our theories: (chuckles) we're in danger
sky's social media has been pretty fixated on eden/ elders lately; i wonder if they're trying to prime us for the next season 
pique our interest w elder lore so the season'll impacts us more
I love your document, it's going to be useful for reference 
/ah, i think he did mention alef and resh in the doc
yeah grandpa did mention it

Then it is c o m p l e t e
hEHE
grandpa, love your work btw!!
i'd say the analysis is pretty spot on!
i'm having a not big brain moment rn
(my brain farted and idk what's the plural of analysis in english)
analyses
🥺 👉 👈 thank u so much!!
analysises 
beautiful doc granpa 
thank you ginko!!
im not well-versed in a lotta aspects of sky lore but i like,, the elders
according to google, the plural noun for analysis is analyses.
@paper matrix i admire your research for this. All I did was basically travelling through the kingdom of Sky and reddit and youtube looking for signs. Never searched anything
I actually hop on here hoping that people can help me develop a reasonable lore document to save future moths from having months - long headaches from deciphering the game 
what's lore chat without the headaches 
indeed
Man im glad i actually joined this server. Otherwise i might already wrecked my brain trying to solve the lore alone lmao
Thank you for the doc grandpa

@bitter shale i wrecked mine, so i can confirm that 

jesus those concept arts are terrifying
But interesting indeed
hello hows lore today?
i think tspider mask is on one of the spirits in the new season teaser 
so if teth was a lynx, daleth was a vulture, tsadi was a spider, and lamed was a raven/crow
what were the twins and ayin?

vrow
i think ayin might've been a bear but i have absolutely no clue what the twins were once based off
PFFT
i type faster than i think
I forgot their names, may I have the link for their names 
Thank youu 
Valley share the same name? Also hello
These names are miles more interesting than just “[place] Elder”

Elder names apparently.
I'm starting to get mad at the clouds and sand for covering up literally anything that would be interesting
do keep in mind the names are no longer canon
Grandpa was wondering what the twins and ayin would have been based off
What animals
ah, i believe the ayin was a whale of sorts
Here’s an update clause in my Sky lore in light of some of the stubs i found in the pins. It’s still unknown why the Sky civilization fell
the reason they fell is related to power diamonds
Hey bricky!!
yo Grandpa 
I believe the twins would've been something small and competitive of some sorts.
or just people in general
Yeah, but I’ll need more clues to write detailed lore on it. Also my head starts to hurt 
as of now i imagine them as foxes, but that’s just me
imagining the twins cackling like foxes is way in character for both of them
although, there is a concept that reminds me of kangaroos
the twins even had boomerangs
Now that I join this, I hope to listen and update my lore as we go. Looking forward to writing the lore for the new season in ..... 2 months

Why do you guys think that the spirits have no name just a description of their function in the Sky society or their last emotion when they died instead of a "real" name like the Elders?
the elders don’t have real names
« Elder of the Isle of Dawn »
« Elder of the Daylight Prairie »
etc
just like the spirits
/who is the praying emote praying to?
what do you think ?
/the fallen warriors of wasteland?
/im thinking she is one of the very very last ancestors left on sky kingdom
/people who get to be on constelations are important people
/im thinking maybe megan is part of the sky kingdom mythos, maybe according to the ancestors she was never actually seen
I think they worshipped her, in the isle murals.
im wondering how they learnt of her existence, if she’s a real being in their world
what prevented the ancestors from making up their own gods ?
i think they were initially praying for the stars
So they indirectly worshipped her.
probs
Yes, I know that the Elder names are not canon now, but they were in the past. So the question remains: why did they have names while the other spirits did not?
Maybe because they're literally gods.
They're not gods. Only Megan is considered divinity. The Elders are more like sovereignty
Elders names might be remembered because they are probably important figures to their kingdom
Well, the elders seem to be kind of godly, just not god god.
gods of war, entertainment, knowledge, etc.
It’s like
Megabird is Chaos (first greek god, super powerful dude) whereas the elders are like Hades, Poseidon, etc because yeah they’re gods and yea they’re a big deal but Megan is still the Creator Of The Universe
no, theyre stars
they’re separate from spirits/ancestors
Ancestors, Elders, and Skids are all different species
At first i thought the valley twins name sare Alef and Daleth lmao
Like, i have seen fanarts where they are named those
I interrupt this convo with an accidental discovery. I used to think those 3 krills came from graveyard but instead they showed up from the puddles
Yeah, some fan arts get the names wrong, i’m not sure who started it but it caught on lol
Okay but you have 126 candles-
hard grinded candles im poor
Lol there are many who've 1000+ candles...but lore
i jumped from 206 to 94 candles for dance ts
didnt buy the music sheet
At first i thought the valley twins name sare Alef and Daleth lmao
Like, i have seen fanarts where they are named those
/yea, most asian communities goes with alef and daleth for the twins actually, and lamed for the gw elder
/ but then there's kakashi and dora for the valley twins, but anyways lore
Ooh
Yep. Even the krill in the first room with the manta emerges from the water. I've seen it happening in the graveyard too
Kakashi and dora are twins confirmed

Yep. Even the krill in the first room with the manta emerges from the water. I've seen it happening in the graveyard too
Yep
Yep. Even the krill in the first room with the manta emerges from the water. I've seen it happening in the graveyard too
oo nice
krills are stored under the map under water, although i like to think they sleep there
i used to think the graveyard krills moved to temple area
and when they smell prey
they wake up
They awaketh when the light c o m e
/aww i want fanarrt of krill be little water bugs

Krills are water spiders
Krills are water creature
we see birds flying too
/krills live in places close to water, then that begs the question of the krill in ark
/where it sneep tho?
that one comes from under the clouds iirc
They are corrupted water taking shape maybe
Who knows
"Man living as water is boring, time to fly"
Love how krill can fly indefinitely without charges.. while skykid need charges
/maybe they do need charge, just different ones
I mean, they live in darkness. They didnt need light like us, and they live in a dark enviroment anyway
Darkness lanterns 
their charges is eating wl
Or maybe... you guys remember they need a while to attack us after they spotted us rite? Maybe they were recharging before lunges?
They cancel out if we get out of the spotlight
Yeah. They lost prey, they cancel the lunge too = no need to charge
They only charge when they gonna attacc
Well, they are machines, technically they do not need "charge"
Where did krill get the energy tho
it’s not confirmed krill are machines
They only sound like one
and if they were, don’t you think that would confirm they need to charge ?
it’s not confirmed krill are machines
@lethal stump
Nothing's confirmed. Why do we do even bother with theories then?
It about having fun
machines have batteries and such
they need maitenance n stuff
/making things up! They need red bull then
no need to ping, i’m here
/in constrast the skids need sphaghetti and gatorode
i dont need sleep. I need answer
and if they were, don’t you think that would confirm they need to charge ?
@lethal stump
Yes. AAA battery powered dark dragons
Solar panel but make it darkness
Yes. AAA battery powered dark dragons
/lol dont tag bricky
@hushed steeple meaning when u quote u remove the @
The lore was purposely vague so we can make theory without the concern of being right or wrong..
Everything is possible
But if you truly want to know the real sky lore..
Oof I'm afraid we don't have that much stuff here
Solar panel but make it darkness
/oh maybe they need long time of darkness to work
there is no « true sky lore »
Only theories and headaches
Truly canon
there’s no hidden story or anything
just
random tidbits of stuff
/like you know how those things that need a very long time to cool to start running?
no, there is no true canon story
Yes. In a world of magic and utter nonsense we need batteries...
Like king existence
I mean we need electricity lol
what do you think power diamonds are, Chris ?
Cant always depend on magics forever
they’re basically batteries
/no king, only propaganda
You are not immune to king propaganda

A piece of technology which is not explained by real life physics aka working with magic.
I dont think they found electricity yet
I'm kinda sad that there is no fully laid out sky lore because for me it will always feel like I'll never know the whole truth. 
/bricky may us have some king propaganda?
Oh no king again
I'm kinda sad that there is no fully laid out sky lore because for me it will always feel like I'll never know the whole truth.
Imo that what makes it more fun. We can feel free to believe anything without any worry
I'm kinda sad that there is no fully laid out sky lore because for me it will always feel like I'll never know the whole truth.
/same goes with real life, you will never know what actually happened to the spartans!

smiley you say oh no when you literally have a king pfp 
Lol
I mean king propaganda
Also yeha that AU did exist lmao
propaganda 
There are still more depictions of the king in the game though
yeah, those are just the main ones i found
This is some of it
And we don't even know if that's the king
i have more in my king propaganda folder
the statues are confirmed to be the king, at least
/king usually have pointy
Yes, the concept art, but that's not canon anymore
guys do you think king can shoot laser out of his head
/yup
Yes actually
Confirmed king is a superman wannabe
the concept art’s bearing on canon is weird
it can be ? but not always
yes
Oki phew
That is a beam light tho
King statue can shoot laser.. at least in the concept art
/maybe the king made the krills as a test to how he can make lasers
Or look like it can shoot laser
This is how i interpreted king statue..
It like a tower defense
Drawing kinda suck but at least that what I want to show you
Oo
Is it just me or does the king redemble the journey guy?
Resemble
Aleite its just me then lmao
Journey guy who?
Oooo
Thought i'd drop this pic
I don't know if that a cape but it look huge
Man king pics are a hot topic today
/is king hot?
far right, most likely a recent version of the king, since the other concepts are from earlier on.
that’s vault elder
/was he fangirled when he was ruling

/Elius that's vault, king is actually that big black dude in the background
aight, thanks
thats just the eden mountain i think
the light is probably from the exploding eden diamond
i like to imagine it’s going to megabird a restoring her to her full power 
Hmm if we can see the light from eden in other realms this beats the theory suggesting they are the same at different time zones
/is king hot?
/was he fangirled when he was ruling
I come back to this
Based on the mask, could we argue that far right sky kid is wearing ''Prince'' mask? If so, what mask is far left sky kid wearing? Note early concept for a butterfly cape from Season of Sanctuary https://i.imgur.com/Yt61zT6.jpg
What is ''Skid''?
Sky kid
ok 😛
Guys.. another weird thought but..
What happened if we face king as enemy..
In the concept art he will throw spears.. but what if
King attacks is like krill.. where it will locate and charge at you head on.
That sounds forgiving
Hey infinity
Long time no see infinity
Guys are all seasonal spirits are seven of em
Hey teth and smiley
I missed you guys
Lotta work
Kept me from sky as well
Regretfully
That's true
This would mean uh atta ked his own
Who's attacking?
Also wanna ask are there seven spirits for a season
Do you guys think that in secret the TGC staff actually has all the lore fully mapped out but is withholding it so we can make our own theories and not be "wrong" or "right"?
Each season
I think so infinity, 6 and a questgiver = 7
nope
it's simply a gameplay thing
Do you guys think that in secret the TGC staff actually has all the lore fully mapped out but is withholding it so we can make our own theories and not be "wrong" or "right"?
@dim bluff very possible Julie then again some ideas from art has shown some concepts restricted
one spirit for each realm
!readthepins Juulie
what'ss pinss preciouss?
Quest giver invluded
although for enchantment and sanctuary they were all grouped up in one area
that's why I don't really think prophecy will have 6 spirits if it's a new area
Yeah
Spring who do u think is attacking??
Someone earlier said could be king
Are you saying king throw those spear?
Throwing spears into krills
I always thought it was GW Elder throwing the spears
Gw?
I would be surprised because king has definitely throw big stuff
Golden Wasteland
It's possibly civil war
But it shows that a spear is penetrating a diamond shield and another spear penetrating a sunshield
There was a hierarchy in sky as I discussed before
Even for the spirits those spears are too big for them to hold
So its def 2 parties attacking each other
they had catapults
Co firmed
they probably had harpoon launchers
how did they peirce a dang stone sheild
What I'm most intrigued by is the decrease in water level at wasteland
how did they LIFT a stone shield
King, prince?
because they wide
spirits are secretly the hulk 
We dont know why the weapons are so ridiculously massive but some of us theorized that maybe the spirits used the giant potions from enchantment
Fun idea
Mhm
I think the spirit will look like the statue that hold a spear
Guys gtg, have the shrines reset yet in Eden?
Aww that's so quick
Oh alright
Not a lore question but yes
Also shrine run if shrines reset
Why are there two different symbols on the sheilds?
Spring .. that mean two side is fighting
Why are there two different symbols on the sheilds?
@dense umbra I wonder that as well
We also see tsadi using both shields
Excacly
I think there's more than one fa tion
In an unconfirmed lore they talked about civil war @dense umbra
*faction
My theory says it was eden vs gw
Hummm
Prob Ginko
Even the wonderful sky has civil war
At eden we see 2 sunshields, dual blades, one empty compartment
In the unconfirmed lores (pins) they talked about this
I think valley vs prairie and firest
Maybe the Eden didnt want the diamonds as a source of power (?)
& what is that in the back?
Where?
Picture above
See ya will be back, by teth and smiley
King?
Yes
Oh no confusion 100
The only thing that confuses me is that those chevron banners are found in valley (which makes me think valley vs gw?? But why??)
hello, I sew we are talking about my favorite place: Wasteland 
yes hi blue 
Think that forest and gw are the same faction
it was a sport argument that got out of hand
We need a season in wastland explaining this
U mean this??
Mhh, think that the golden valley is not so important for this war.
It was only the downtown
We don't get much lore in seasons
I'll go grab breakfast, brb
Buuut what about next season, season of prophecy? 
We dont know
Oh is that the thing upclose?
Speaking of those banners and just wasteland in general
Yknow that big ol white whale thing in forest n the start of gw?
Yes
Does it come in black?
Oh yes that thank you
:00
no, it's gray when you're close
Ooft that is creepy
I think its actually white like we see it but the lighting makes it very dark :,)
it's not actually black. that's just the lighting
Wat if the whales eat krills :>
huge
Wouldn't hurt a fly XD
That's all i wanted to know cause homeboy was abt to lose it 😔✌️
I feel like we'll get a lot of lore next season 
Oh yeah, since the whale got reborn with us, i kinda wonder how it dies
I mean, it IS called season of prophecy
whale destroyed a building tho
Or smn
that's not confirmed
🤞
we're just speculating the name
Same difference
I think we already see it "dead" when it flies up in orbit with us.
Yes after eden whent through the wall
but since it says "beware the prophecy" I feel like that season name is accurate
The flying dead
I think whale is too power that it just fly to orbit with us
Maybe it's just blind
please don't talk about beta/hacked content please 
U think that the King will come back again in a future?
O sorry 
Hm so the whale lack oxygen??
again? 
Then dies???
I dont think it dies from lack of oxygen
Guys remember this statue I saw i found some new interesting stuff in eden look closely on the left in the dark there is a similar silhouette of the statue standing
All creatures go to eden to die and rebirth
We know spring. We just dunno whats on its back because its always broken xD
Wat is dat Spring? That not seems the King
That is not king
Y e s, Ik
Guys remember this statue I saw i found some new interesting stuff in eden look closely on the left in the dark there is a similar silhouette of the statue standing
@dense umbra it might be the eden elder? Just a theory tho
We call it a "scholar statue" but we're not sure
The King is the eden elder
it is most likely a scholar statue but yes, we don't know who the statue is of
Isn't there a glitch thingy to go back to the main area after you die in Eden?
Yes but not like the statue will go back to normal
bricky already explored stormlock for 4 hours for us
Bricky is braver than the marines
The King is the eden elder
Its not confirmed but some theorize he is and some not
Eden is fun dunno why y'all scared
:00
Bc we've been there like 2 times
The atmosphere make it unsettling
Its disneyland
PFT
am sorry my typos are coming out again
Dw if i send a list of how people write my name you'll laugh. Its a text wall
would like to see
anyway, yes we don't know if king = eden elder as it is not said outright but some of us do think that they are the same
oh yes, bricko went around stormlock for us. he found a dead body too 
or at least, something that looks like it
I agree, it hasn't been outright stated the King is indeed the Eden Elder
Ah ur dropping the body for the lore moffs
Didn't the devs say that king plays an important role in the current lore, but not in the way we think he does?
Yeah
Hmmmm
Its also stated that he's in the game too, but not in the way the Elders and Ancestors are
Yeap I have no idea on what he could be up to
Those statements about the King feels pretty important, tbh
I often try to wack my brain on what they meant by that
We know spring. We just dunno whats on its back because its always broken xD
I did sent a drawing recreating it, tho... And I have some new pics of it I think...
He exists but not in the way we think he does. And he plays an important role in sky
Well king is important
The wording though makes me think that he's actually in-game, but hidden in plain sight
Yesn't 
about that...
oh no the same as the poop

Yes
king = poop

I feel like I'm having an existential crisis just trying to solve this game out-
actually the king is in
King, please don't shoo
PIC TIME!
Last two are from stormlock
King is watching somewhere
woah blue 
Wait, I realised something...
The question was is it a shield or is it wings (from back then in lore channel)
There's two shades of blue shown in the game
Imagine if one day one of the king statues would start rotating in the direction where the player is 
I will having a heart attack
The question was is it a shield or is it wings (from back then in lore channel)
Looks more like wings to me to be honest
Same
He has been watching us getting krilled from day one..
I will have a heart attack and instinctly punch the phone
they look kinda similar to the wings of the col in the intro
Yes
He's also holding a diamond right? (The one in stormlock)
Yes
Noice
perhaps these scholars were trying to figure out how to harness light to fly using diamonds?
Yeah i know about orbit one xD couldn't explore the one in stormlock due to wind wall
could represent the prince discovering how to use power diamonds
The diamonds were their key tool for flying boats / everything
Yes
Id prefer the idea of Forest mama discovering the diamonds, rather than the King
what if they wanted to use the diamonds to try to fly without boats though, like skids can do
Probs res
Unless... The King used dictatorship and took credit for it 
I formed headcanons about the Prince in my head, and it turned tragic all of a sudden
Wait i was just thinking. But i guess prince can't fly either (he uses a boat when with megan). How do think 'prince on flying boat' and 'ancestors discovering megan's embers to fly boat' are related??
Yeah
Well, we still get on boats, even if we have wings
To the Forgotten Ark, I mean
Just because the Prince is on a boat doesn't mean they can't fly-
Though, if the Prince can fly, that would leave questions as to why they didn't just... Fly to the birb or something
windwall
Oh yeah!
Tables have turned on the main protagonist i see
Though, there's another possibility I got from a headcanon/theory I had
Somehow, I feel like Sky does indeed have solid lore, just made it mysterious so that we can have our imaginations run wild
But they'll leave bread crumbs so that we can piece the puzzle, but people can easily choose not to focus on it
That kind of stuff
True
📌 
I honstly find this approach so infuriating
Because there isnt a skeleton, something we can be based around
I enjoy this approach because it lets the imagination run wild. I know some who also dont it that way like you 
Instead of going "here you go. Thats the story. Bye"
Oh dang several people typing

I feel like there is a skeleton for the lore of the game
in lore chat? megabird forbid!
Lots.
I find it both.
I love how the game present himself, my best friend just played till dying one time and got a different vision of the history
Yeah i understood what u meant spoopy
I like how it’s intentionally open, but I just want some more certain stuff...
Maybe next Season will give us that? 
It looks very foreboding...
But yeah, I really want more solid stuff on the lore
too
But having many interpretations in fun too!
Have any of y'all seen BETA spoilers
Yes
No we dont talk beta here
Yes yes yes yes yes

But yeah, I really want more solid stuff on the lore
@thin dirge same
the way ktjn said it was like - there is a solid story, but it is made very vague. i guess they will reveal it bit by bit instead of giving out chunks at once so we can continuously refine our theories without any super drastic or major changes
i mean we have 2 years of planned content ahead of us so i guess we'll get more bits eventually 
Yeah, thats exactly what I thought
idk I think we will never get all the story tho so some people always gonna think is not enough
it is up to the narrative team of tgc to reveal what they want to reveal as they see fit
i think we will at least get to know what story they want to tell us in the end
... as long as we are around to support them. 
true, although there are some things i hope they never reveal 
the true poop
What is this thing about poop 
i saw texture glitch in forest temple and thought it was poop so i won't post that
😳
What is this thing about poop
@dim bluff ??
the poop thing was started by reika in this chat
Wasn't it Ash?
Once again sky gave YanDev vibess
Not Reika, Ash
Oh, I thought it was Ash
@stone rivet You already got your answer to your question when you asked the same thing in the beta chat
Well, that was the earliest instance I saw a dev mention poop. Reika was asked about it later
Which question?
Can't link first message of poop talk here (on phone) but yeah. Reika started it
About YanDev vibes was a statement
Ohh
?
your deleted msg Spoopy
Trying to talk about beta content, which you’ve already been told is not available in the game
oooh
I'm pretty sure it was Ash tho
reika mentioned it in july, ash mentioned it in august
Ohh, okay
Ah yes, poop.
D U N G
D U N G
@thin dirge Stool.
Ah Nagati i have a question about posting other peoples drawings. It has their username in the pic and i usually write credits to (blank). Am i allowed to do that? Or should i just copy message link their post??
tbh i never saw the hype to that 
Like we have the fanmade drawing of whurtles (which we get asked to see a lot of times) and krill anatomy drawing
tbh i never saw the hype to that
@normal berry Imagine getting hyped about poop lol.
Ri the poop hype or my question?😂 because i tell you im desperately trying to find that poop
everything looks like poop in game now
oh yeah, there's the krill anatomy drawing too 
well that one was shared by the creator in this channel
((i'm not sure either maybe let's ask the next time a mod is in chat))
@tender dune best to ask questions like that in #contact-the-mods next time, just to keep the chat cleaner 

But, for the record, no reposting of any art is permitted on this server, no matter if their name is on it or if the reposter tries to give credit
I have a question, forest elder and vault elder are related?
i love that everyone is scared of asking
albeit i would be too
their masks are related
So not the elders themselves, but rather the masks?
tbh I don’t see them as family-related, although i suppose it is up to one's interpretation
yes, just the masks are related
not lore question
that is up to you but that's not really lore either
Oh okkk
A couple of times I had seen people asking for pictures of Forgotten Ark before & after (and in between), as I did once ask too.
Today I found this thatskyfox 's wonderful video (with great zoomed up picture of some of the murals)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNo9wXohMu8
I did post a bunch of ark mural pics too before. Sadly they all go whoosh in here
hope there'll be a mural compilation soon
would be really useful instead of having to repeatedly go in game and getting them
yeah, things here cannot be bookmarked for a later review/reread easily, sadly
I remember someone was collecting pictures to make a huge mural compilation
U can always save message links in your notepad/doc for later review (thats what i do to my theories)
I was
I remember someone was collecting pictures to make a huge mural compilation
Ah
sorry I pinged you
Its ok lol (i dont mind being pinged)
If u want pics without skid there i can dm you (I have a few from FA)
I believe you can add them there
I have an idea about this light, so like in-game usually the yellow children send this glaire/shine/light around them & this light around the greater light is so bright we can see it very far away so maybe it's the light of the prince or someone of value & not just a yellow kid
What's the theory?
mmmmmits not my theory, lemme do soem digging for it
but tl;dr the price sacrifice himself to save the kingdom, he become sky kids
Since Lore chat has fully decided to come here I'll drop my 2 cents of the origin of Skykids
||I like to think that Alef, the Eden Prince, sacrificed themselves to keep life on this world. Each skykid is a piece of Alef, which is why our friend constellation—The Light—is the same one you see in Vault cutscene before entering Eden||
- credit to Parking Lot Trash#5619
Ah ok cause I've been hearing some mention stuff like that & him being the protagonist
"each skid is a piece of alef.." i like to think of it more like megan blowed life into skids from her big energy/light
mhm yeah i agree with that too
but what if.... megan also give every skykids alef's essence? so its like alef is still alive but its inside us
dunno why, it can be a neat theory
or megan made us like alef maybe? we all have same appearance at the first time we play
I k ow it's from 2 different distances but these 2 look to be the same length (follow up on my theory that the whale we see is the same one)
it's just a name the fandom has given it
it is also called tuna king
bit I prefer whale
whale sounds neater tbh
flying whale
flying tuna sounds kinda weird imo lmao
but hey tuna is cool too
the tuna peasants swim so the tuna king can fly-
I need to go to sunny forest and get a shot of the whale that's there to
wait just a second

the mask looks like the whale head I think
whale mask whale mask
yo bricky what you think?
brick's not on right now
well
the shape doesn't exactly match though
yes you can hope
I didn't notice this before but look at the mountain (Eden) in the distance in Prairie. You can see lightning strikes.
Clever, subtle foreshadowing.
Oh nice!
Yep!
😳 how come I never noticed that
Notice the similarities in the symbols? This could mean that the prince is actually still somehow looking after us providing skids with tools & potions to help them, idk that's my theory
:O
I never thought of that, honestly.
They all have a dot in the middle with spiky shapes inclosed around it
:0
Well, I noticed it when I was flying towards Butterfly Fields and kept looking at the mountain.
I had thought
What if no dark plants can be found in the vault because Lamed absorbed them, and that's why their mask is all beat up
So I knew there was a king, but what's the deal with the prince? Is it a variation of the king or am I just missing something big here?
@vernal dock we are all missing something.
The prince is in cannon limbo. In concepts, he is sometimes the king and sometimes not.
But does he exist in the same time period as does the king? Do we know that? (For a starter is he featured on any concept art along side with the corrupted king?)
Oh lord, thanks for clearing it a bit xD
Clever, subtle foreshadowing.
@queen jungle technically it’s not rlly foreshadowing
The storm has been there for a long time and in the distance we simply jus see the storm, lightning doesn’t jus happen when skykids go to eden
No no I meant that the lightning symbolizes that Eden isn't as idyllic as one might think.
In concept art, lighting bolts were actually another obstacle you had to overcome!
Maybe they kept it in the game to somehow point to the concept art. Then again, it's probably to make Eden look more menacing.
Sky areas planned already???

Will we get a sunny, Journey- style desert?
Looking at the color sceme it's more likely to be either in vault or isle
It could be the one I labelled as Belonging Vault area.
I don't think it would be a good idea to put seasons in Eden.
krill mask?

If we were to get a sunny desert, we would have to consider the rain shadow effect. The entrance would have to be in Valley or near it, since it's a mountain setting.
Crossing through the mountain range that Valley is part of through forest, like we see in the map would also be good.
Oh my god having to dodge lightning would be a nightmare.
We could have these structures next season.
Please @dense umbra, don't share/talk about hacked or illegitimately obtained content on the server. The new season hasn’t even begun testing in beta.
I just heared rumors okay
oh I was about to say that, thanks skybean
Sorry 😅
We ask people to not spread rumors or other unverified information either, since it can easily mislead many people
😔👍
I only said it would make sens if it took place in dark ereas because they're selling the lanterns but sorry i'll avoid talking about seasons🙏
I feel like it’ll be in Isle.
yeah so my headcannon is quite similar to your spring
about the prince guiding us
it was first a crackpot theory that the prince was guiding us though the tutorial messages but then i though "hey that's actually kinda cool" so basically my theory is that a fragment of the prince's light becomes our life source and a part of him stays with us and guides us. this is who the narrator is
basically the messages like "the light will guide you" and "relive this spirit" and stuff is a fragment of the prince speaking to you
Yoooo 
That would be so cool
Like a little voice in our heads accompanying us through our journey the whole time
What if the prince is the one also telling us that "You're about to be reborn..."
imo that's either him or megabird
i'm leaning towards the prince tho
imo the megabird has a more uninvolved role so prolly him
also your pfp makes me go hjsdhflasd
I'm kind of visualizing that the prince is kinda like that spirit which is attached to the girl in beyond two souls
If you get what I mean
yuh
If that is the case
I wish we could pick the kind of attitude the prince has towards us (if our theory is right)
Friendly, shy, bubbly, gloomy, sassy, etc,
To give it more character
or it sort of starts as default and changes to one of those attitudes based oh your behavior
like he sort of gains an opinion about the player
"Aight mate, I'll explain it just one more time. Toggling between flight mode and (idk the name) mode EXISTS."
say if you are a really helpful player he becomes more friendly
what’s this channel? i really don’t know. can somebody define?
we talk about the story about sky and stuff like that
Ye
What is lore?
so basically jarvis and friday
This channel is basically for the lore/story side of the game, we theorise what happens in sky and basically everything from crabs to elders to all
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but a ghost rather than a robit
"alright i'm giving you one last chance to do it right before I do it myself"
oh thats best for #eden-spoilers
i will happily tell you there
We ask people to not spread rumors or other unverified information either, since it can easily mislead many people
^nagati just said that
thats old concept
Sky areas planned already???
@trail mesa those aren’t new areas, those are jus concept areas that they were planning but never made in game
@sage hemlock That is illegitimately attainted information, and could very well be hearsay. We do not know anything about the new season aside from what the teaser shows us, testing hasn’t even started in beta.
Please remove your comment about the new season, thank you
We do know one thing that wasn't from the teaser - the fact that the new season is a lore moff lamp
@sage hemlock bruh that is ||hacked, unreleased content|| that is actually against the rules
Pls delete your message
Hellooow children of light
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@lethal stump
no need to ping me
So have you guys wondered who put that crab barbecue in GW
The GW elder looks like a warrior so maybe him .. but will he really feast on crabs ?
it’s from belonging dad !
who is the belonging dad ?
ohhh .. i am new .. i wasn't in the game at that time
thankyou
Hey .. the discord logo looks like a crab ... 🤔
So if we can assume that the entire island was once covered by some kind of civilization, what was the purpose of the forest? There are seemingly walls surrounding a major part of it preventing entry
forest was likely a mining industrial area
Ah
it was in the concepts, thé area we now call the boneyard was originally known as the quarry
Oh that’s cool
twas used for mining darkstone
Another question though,
ye ?
I’m not sure if it’s correct, but I don’t think the previous inhabitants of the island could fly like we can. If that is so, why is so much of the island only accessible through flying? We know they had flying boats, but places like the tunnel between the forest and The Valley seem like a very difficult thing to go through on a boat. Is it possible that when the catastrophe in Eden occurred the island broke apart a little?
And that parts of the island are lifted into the sky by the Eden crystal?
there are many theories and beliefs that the kingdom is slowly falling apart/decaying
what is currently under cloud might’ve been accessible walkway in the prime time of the kingdom
Ah. Like most of the island was just kind of a flat area and that a majority of it was lifted up by the explosion.
Someone should try to draw a map of what the island likely would look like without the clouds
I think it’d be interesting
well, there’s plenty of concept maps
Where can I find one
Thank you
Would I be correct in saying that the wasteland is most likely back on sea level?
yeah
there’s also a side-view map somewhere but i can’t find it at the moment, the pins are your friend when looking for concept art
How long do people generally think it’s been between the time of the ancestors and our time?
i don’t remember it being discussed, really
I’d always assumed more than a generation. That there were people before us but after the ancestors. Because the ruins are very free of vegetation all things considered. But at the same time there’s a lot of decay. So it makes me think they’ve been cleaned and cared for after they were abandoned.
remember that darkness is seeping everywhere, it might stifle growth
That’s true
I mean the trees are stone. And seemingly always have been
I actually have a theory about why forest has the walls around it.
Maybe at one point they weren't, and something had happened
Either Born or Made, I think the first Krill was there. And I think forest elder was blamed.
i know in the concepts, the first battle happened at forest owo
i need to look at concept art still lol
Y’all thinking about things that really interest me-
I'm now wondering if the Krill were made, would the darkness corrupted it. Even if born, corruption would've inevitably happened somehow.
And if they were made, for what purpose? Things are made for a purpose.
devs have said that sky has a « rich ecology of light and dark » which makes me think krill are natural
I think that the time between us and the ancestors is at least 100 years or so. It’s been long enough for plant life to begin to retake the civilization and for the buildings to begin to decompose
here we go



