lore-discussion-spoilers

[lofty hill]

He yeets me :(

@livid valley

[livid valley]

He yeets me :(
@livid valley
@lofty hill same :((

[lofty hill]

Like the prince does for us
@wind arch
Uh
Is the glowy boi that needs a hug the prince? °^°

[wind arch]

We think so

[lofty hill]

Hmm 👀

The cutscene at the end of vault reminds me of something but if I could remember the mural aahhhh

[livid valley]

Mood

[lofty hill]

Lemme go to the top of vault 😂

[livid valley]

[wind arch]

It's there on yt

[lofty hill]

I was on the fourth floor when I came here to talk lol

[livid valley]

Lol so did you see it?

[lofty hill]

Yup
I saw the mural again 👀
I think the prince was defeated by something in Eden itself? Could it be his own corruption that caused the storm 👀

[sharp lichen]

By defeated do you mean killed?

[lofty hill]

Nope
Defeated as in sealed or something

[livid valley]

hes not "killed" im sure

[sharp lichen]

What are the power levels of the sky kids?

[lofty hill]

Because from the looks of it on the mural he only seemed defeated

[livid valley]

[short owl]

sacrificed

to power whatever it was Eden was used to power

[thin dirge]

I still don't understand why everything is... Red in Eden

In the old Beta, it was blue. Makes sense, considering what the color blue represents in Sky

But why change to red...?

[livid valley]

Hmmm

[thin dirge]

The color red barely has any significance in all places of Sky but Eden

[lethal stump]

maybe cause red is more universally seen as « evil » or « dangerous »
i wouldn’t be surprised if the blue colour scheme of old eden led confused moffs to accidentally hurt themselves thinking things were safe when they weren’t

idk that’s what i’ve always thought

[thin dirge]

Maybe, but it feels like there's something more than that

It was mentioned that red is similar to how the butterfly turns pink when it gets drained, but that implies the diamond itself is being drained, not that the diamond was draining energy from something

[short owl]

But red is also the color of the floaty specs in vault

[lethal stump]

red ? they’re orange

[thin dirge]

Yeah

[lethal stump]

i guess you could equate red with krills ? but then what meaning does it have for them ?

[thin dirge]

I think that's just the warning sign for Krills. Before then, it's blue

[lethal stump]

yes but what do the colours Represent

[short owl]

It could also be orange = red + yellow

[livid valley]

make sense since red can be seen as danger

[short owl]

A red stone, but charged

[thin dirge]

Blue=Loss, death
Yellow, White, Warm Colors=Life, light

Red=???

The only thing that always have red are the candles, but not sure if that has significance

[lethal stump]

wouldn’t it make more sense for red to be part of the « light » spectrum ? considering the light spectrum seems to be warm colours

and the darkness spectrum is cold colours

[thin dirge]

Maybe

Red is the one with the longest wavelength, the cooler colors have shorter wavelengths

But then again, we dont see any other colors associated with darkness, its often blue

Blue also represents death, which is why Ancestors are blue

[lethal stump]

where’s the
where’s the pic
hold on

[thin dirge]

Still no red anywhere

[short owl]

Interesting

[thin dirge]

Still doesn't have any bold red anywhere tho

[short owl]

Red is closer to the flame spectrum

[lethal stump]

im just grabbing these for reference

[short owl]

Eden rocks also used to be blue

it was changed to red later

[thin dirge]

Yeah

Hmm... Maybe it was just not threatening enough?

[edgy sequoia]

some said they looked like hailstones

[livid valley]

Hmm... Maybe it was just not threatening enough?
@thin dirge possibly

[lethal stump]

originally, eden was going to be B&W

[livid valley]

people mustve think its harmless

[lethal stump]

gah brb

[thin dirge]

Yeah, they were originally referred to as hailstorm by some old players of Beta

[lethal stump]

massive concept dump, here’s the tomcepts regarding colours in sky so we can figure out what the HECK is going on with red

[ember sun]

👀👀👀

[lethal stump]

we can see that originally, eden was meant to be B&W

[wind arch]

Maybe red represents danger

Or anger

[short owl]

Red could represent tools

Not something that has an innate alignment, but something that takes on an alignment based on how it's used

Ancestors have their alignment because they are their own group.
Elders have an alignment because they were light but got severed.

Megabird, creatures, and flame have an alignment because they are connection

Tools are simply used to fulfil the alignment

[livid valley]

make sense

[short owl]

Vault: Red dust, no alignment, but filled with yellow energy (connection alignment) fulfills the tasks of telling the story and lifing up sky kids

Chest candle, no alignment, used by us to destroy darkness, open doors, or connect with eachother.

Eden: Red rocks. No alignment. Unknown task, but whatever the task is, it's huge.

[wind arch]

I think eden in beta was less scary? I've never played beta only saw a video of beta storm

[livid valley]

Beta Eden is totally not scary

[orchid crypt]

green's another example of a colour range that can't easily be said to have just one meaning/representation, because you've got the "lush green" of all the grass in daylight prairie compared to the toxic green shades of golden wasteland

[wind arch]

And brighter

[lethal stump]

current eden isn’t even scary

[thin dirge]

I still can't see the stuff in Vault being red

[wind arch]

green's another example of a colour range that can't easily be said to have just one meaning/representation, because you've got the "lush green" of all the grass in daylight prairie compared to the toxic green shades of golden wasteland
Exactly

Vault has more of orange particles

[lethal stump]

i agrée, it’s more orange

[thin dirge]

Red is a color known to have dual representations to it, soo..

[orchid crypt]

the dust on the ground floor of vault turns quite reddish if you manage to get back down there after raising the elevator to the 3rd floor -- it's hard to tell exactly what colour it actually is since it's influenced so much by the lighting

[thin dirge]

I think it's still orange

[livid valley]

mostly orange for me

[wind arch]

Red is also used in valley? To represent excitement and energy?

[thin dirge]

Red represents anger, violence, but it can also represent courage and determination

[orchid crypt]

the sunset shades, yeah

[wind arch]

"Glorious sunset" which could also relate to the glory of winning sports

[thin dirge]

Maybe we are indeed thinking about this too much and it's just made red to represent danger

[wind arch]

That represents factions I guess

Valley also has blue flags

[orchid crypt]

we could potentially argue that we're being too broad by just saying "red" or "green" in that we're not defining a small enough spectrum/shade range to classify what they might mean or represent, but i'm more a fan of interpreting colours within their given contexts rather than trying to define contexts by the colours if that makes sense

[wind arch]

Yeah

So in the context of eden red would represent power

And danger

Gw has a sort of swampy, polluted dull green which suits it

Also in beta it used to be worse

[thin dirge]

Uhhh... Envy?

Dark green means Envy

[wind arch]

Dark green is associated with ambition, greed, and jealousy. Yellow-green can indicate sickness, cowardice, discord, and jealousy

[hushed steeple]

green resembles harmony?

which area are we talking about grandpa?

[wind arch]

But that would make sense for praire

About gw

Golden wastes

[hushed steeple]

oh, what part of it is green though?

[wind arch]

All of it?

[short owl]

gw green is probably new life

[wind arch]

Whaa

There's death and destruction tho

[lethal stump]

i see it as nuclear/sickness

[wind arch]

Yeah

[short owl]

The green grasses in the arc?

[hushed steeple]

i dont see any green in golden wasteland

[short owl]

Life beginning again

[wind arch]

Then there's green grasses in praire

[hushed steeple]

yeah, green represent rebirth, that makes sense

in the context of golden wasteland

[wind arch]

Also there's a colour in the name of golden wastes

[short owl]

Even with all the destruction, the krill still live in the wasteland. Sure, one could argue they are creatures of destruction, but they are creatures all the same.

[hushed steeple]

i always thought golden wasteland refers to the color of the terrain, golden sand

it could also refer to the legacy of the realm that forms a compelling juxtaposition

[wind arch]

Golden usually has positive connotations but how does it relate here I wonder

[short owl]

Gold. Something hard, uncaring, that you thought would be amazing but you really shoulda stuck to the copper for the coffee pot

Gold is the color of gilding, and a material associated with greed and theft

[livid valley]

Golden wasteland have the green fog atmosphere

[wind arch]

Yeah

[short owl]

Gold is cold. A promise of value that is not inherently fulfilled. And, it is something fought over

[fossil oxide]

im back!!!!!!!!

hi!

[wind arch]

Hi droideka

[livid valley]

Wb Pyre

[fossil oxide]

sooooo

i was thinking

[wind arch]

Yeah

[fossil oxide]

the spirits may not be as bad as we initially thought

[livid valley]

which spirit

[lethal stump]

spirits, or elders ?

[fossil oxide]

both... u remember how we thought they ground mantas into powder?

[livid valley]

wait you meant how we thought about they make diamonds with juice

[fossil oxide]

that might not be entirely true.....

there is this spirit called the lightminer in the forest

[livid valley]

i see

[fossil oxide]

he/she gives us the crying emote

yes

[livid valley]

no equipment what a smol brain move

[fossil oxide]

i believe whatever is used to make diamonds is mined in the caverns of hf....

and thebutterfly pots have little or nothing to do with it...

[livid valley]

u sure

[fossil oxide]

its just a theory

made a few minutes ago...

but it all makes sense...

if the spirits commited mass killings why would tgc want us to save them?

[livid valley]

were not "spirits who seek power"

[fossil oxide]

or rather why would tgc make the ppl we save evil?

[short owl]

Manta juicing is old concept. Were we in old concept, the light miner would likely be mining darkstone

[wind arch]

I think they made us patch up their mistakes

[short owl]

They seem less evil and more... Like us?

[fossil oxide]

and about the butterfly pots... they dont have normal pot colors... sooo theyre probably carved from stone the colors arent like this nor are the like those

[livid valley]

hmmm

[fossil oxide]

the pots in sky are grey and rough

and the sfx isnt quite right

[wind arch]

Also did the spirits fall twice? Once from the stars and the other was the fall of their civilization

[livid valley]

maybe they made it in a rush

[fossil oxide]

no

[short owl]

The world the spirits live in seems a lot like ours

[fossil oxide]

if u know how they make these pots in real life u would know rushing would end in an unmitigated disaster

[short owl]

... Can it be fake again, this is actual sads

[wind arch]

Then how did the spirits come to sky

[lethal stump]

they were just There

[fossil oxide]

like we are just here

is sky a different planet or a lost age of earth?

[short owl]

I believe old lore was that they had died on the planet, come to sky, and were fated for Megan?

[fossil oxide]

ooooooooh likeGOT?

[wind arch]

Gas giant apparently

[lethal stump]

we don’t know the planetary status of sky

[fossil oxide]

game of thrones

song of ice and fire?

[wind arch]

Yeah we can only guess/theorize sky's planet

[livid valley]

Sky may be a planet but its totally a different world from us

[wind arch]

We see two other planet/ moons too

[short owl]

I don't think everyone watches that Pyre

[fossil oxide]

i read the books

[wind arch]

It used to be ( in concept)

[fossil oxide]

not the tv show

[livid valley]

not everyone read the books

[fossil oxide]

im sorry

[hushed steeple]

bricky, do you have the lore moff doc

[lethal stump]

Hello new Lore Moff!
Read this short document to get started! Once you’ve read this, check out pins for more information.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit

[fossil oxide]

moff?

is that moth?

[hushed steeple]

i keep forgetting how to spell the elders names just want to confirm

[fossil oxide]

ohhhhhhh

[lethal stump]

ask for the elder names then

[short owl]

Moth but buffer

[lethal stump]

Isle: Daleth (ד)
Prairie: Ayin (ע)
Forest: Teth (ט)
Valley: Samekh (ס)
Wasteland: Tsadi (צ)
Vault: Lamed (ל)
Prince/Not Corrupt King: Alef (א)
Corrupt King: Resh (ר)
PLEASE NOTE: These names have appeared in concept art and are often used when referring to the elders. They are no longer canon, they are fanon.

[short owl]

Hey here's a lil interesting thing. Samekh forms a lil circle

[fossil oxide]

this is a moff guys...

[wind arch]

True😂

[livid valley]

i-

[fossil oxide]

its star wars...

he`s the grand moff

[wind arch]

I was confused too when I saw it first

[fossil oxide]

tarkin`s new to sky

[wind arch]

He will be pleased about the death Star beam that is eden

[fossil oxide]

i find your lack of sky lore disturbing!!!!!!!!!!!

[lethal stump]

[fossil oxide]

well that was vader but.....

[livid valley]

what are krills in star wars then

[fossil oxide]

anyways

[hushed steeple]

The juxtaposition is interesting because it can be taken metaphorically in two ways, 1) Null's interpretation of gold symbolizes of a superficial value that can never be fulfilled, the wasteland then represent the inevitable downfall of one party into desolation. 2) Golden is a metaphor for prosperity and flourishing of a particular party, which by some constant/force crumbled into barren waste. the immediate contrast implies that the change occurred imminent to its flourish. such that its remnant still lurks in the wasteland.

Bonus point: if you look at the name Valley of Triumph and Golden Wasteland, you can infer an allusion from one to another, then the victory of valley may correspond to the descend of another realm, you can extend this analogy to that of the Roman Triumph, where the amphitheater is the king's coronation. Could it be that what the ancestors of golden wasteland were fighting was none other than the king? What if the battle between the two realms arose because of the king's obsession over darkness for Tsadi saw the danger and effect of darkness, attempting to warn the king but the king would turn against him, seeking more power from the darkness. The darkness was likely used or manipulate by the king against golden wasteland. There are more ramifications of this line of thinking but i will leave it to you

[livid valley]

OOo this message jumped me

[fossil oxide]

[hushed steeple]

sorry grill

[fossil oxide]

sooooooooooooo biggggggg

[livid valley]

nah dw looks interesting

[fossil oxide]

the valley masks and the wasteland masks look similar... perhaps it`s like the greek olympics or the gladiators of rome kinda thing because the war masks seen to be the sky equivalent of a corinthian helmet...

u know?

[livid valley]

hmm

[hushed steeple]

Hey here's a lil interesting thing. Samekh forms a lil circle
what circle? you cant just pop in and point out an interesting observation and then go, you have to tell us Null

[thin dirge]

The Hebrew letter of Samekh

[lethal stump]

that’s only in modern scripts

[hushed steeple]

oh

[lethal stump]

usually it’s a square i believe

[livid valley]

(ס)

[lethal stump]

semicircle thing

[livid valley]

[hushed steeple]

it may just be the reiteration of the oracle script over generations

[lethal stump]

Yes, that’s why i say it’s modern script

[livid valley]

[wind arch]

The letters actually mean things??? Might be important

[livid valley]

ey

[lethal stump]

remember that the names are no longer canon

[wind arch]

Daleth: a door a path movement into or out of

[lethal stump]

things could have changed, and likely have

[wind arch]

Yeah

Makes sense

[thin dirge]

The name Lamed seems to fit the Isle Elder better since it can mean Staff or Rod

[livid valley]

mhm

[wind arch]

You enter the realm onto isle, it's like the doorway to the skyworld

[lethal stump]

• cough *

lamed used to have a staff

[livid valley]

Isle got thinner

workout

[thin dirge]

Ohh yeahhh...

Nah, more like crippled

[wind arch]

Some don't make sense at all tho

Like teth

[livid valley]

teeth

[thin dirge]

It fits the old concept of Teth

[livid valley]

old concept seems more cooler than the secy one now

[thin dirge]

The word "Yod" may fit the Forst Elder more now

[cold acorn]

is that the prince or the king? (the one with diamond mask)

[lethal stump]

Prince

[livid valley]

prince

[cold acorn]

ah ok thanks

[livid valley]

prince can be also using king as mech

[wind arch]

I think we should stay more away. from old concepts, we can take inspiration from them but let's stick to the finished game?

[thin dirge]

Kay

[lethal stump]

it’s up to you tbh

personally i love the old concepts and like sprinkling them into my theories and headcanons

[thin dirge]

Sooooo... We can call the Forest Elder "Maddie" if we want to? Lol

[lethal stump]

no one is stopping you, do what you want

[thin dirge]

Do you guys think we'll actually be able to get some ending of sort to the story of Sky?

[lethal stump]

Far in the future

this is only the first chapter

[thin dirge]

True

[livid valley]

ill just hang out

[thin dirge]

It's hard to think about what the next chapters may bring tho

[wind arch]

I don't knoe if I'll be playing far in the future

[lethal stump]

i wonder if we’ll eventually be able to restore the kingdom

[cold acorn]

hmm what about Sky: Rescuing The Prince

aww cringe sorry

[livid valley]

oof

[lethal stump]

the eden elder isn’t around to be saved anymore

[thin dirge]

Same, my hyperfixation on Sky may die out by the time the rest come out

[cold acorn]

i know hehe

[livid valley]

yep ^^^

[cold acorn]

i think i have a theory somewhere in my head, but i forgot it

lemme try to remember it

[thin dirge]

Though, I feel like next chapters will be more about the past or something

[livid valley]

will be interested to read it

[cold acorn]

ah i have a question

[livid valley]

hm?

[cold acorn]

do the spirits are actually a spirit from dead creatures, or they all were just originally a spirit from first place?

[lethal stump]

it’s assumed they were alive at some point

[livid valley]

yep

[cold acorn]

ah i see

so the enchantment spirits must have died from the ark crash?

[livid valley]

can explain why "revive their memories"

[lethal stump]

probably

[livid valley]

mhm

[cold acorn]

ah okay

[hushed steeple]

so the enchantment spirits must have died from the ark crash?
@cold acorn no... We can see spirit memories after the ark crashed

[livid valley]

hmmmm

[fossil oxide]

what caused the ark to crash?

theories...

[lethal stump]

a storm, a krill, those are common ones

[livid valley]

my theory is that the power ran out

[modest sequoia]

They byilt it like that just to mess with people

[livid valley]

they could have used power too right?

[fossil oxide]

they were packed with supplies...

power was probably enough

it was the krill most likely

[livid valley]

make sense

[modest sequoia]

Maybe intentional theory has some merit

[livid valley]

They byilt it like that just to mess with people

[modest sequoia]

Not troll style Just left it there, and decayed over time

It is called the Forgotten Ark

[fossil oxide]

u know the krill at the entrance to the ark?

it flies too high too pose a real threat to s kids

so what is it doing ther?

[modest sequoia]

It could of been an old muscle-boat some king bought, was going to restore, but never got around to it

[fossil oxide]

iit gaurds the pass

from ships like the ark

biiiiiig ships

like the ark

[modest sequoia]

I like to think Krill more like vultures
Came afterwards when he knew there were tasty survivors

[livid valley]

[fossil oxide]

that wouldnt make sense since there are no krill in the battlefield

until we trigger them

if the krill were vultures first they would not attack s kids,

[hushed steeple]

They hear the doors open again and run to get snacc

[modest sequoia]

They hear the dinner bell

[fossil oxide]

second gw would be clean

third they would already be at the battlefield

if u assume the krill are vultures u have to assume they are good too

b/c they clean up the rotting stuff

[modest sequoia]

Reverse-vultures

[livid valley]

snacc eat

[fossil oxide]

but the krill dont clean up carcasses and they attack living things

[modest sequoia]

So, normal animals

Light vultures

[fossil oxide]

Reverse-vultures
@modest sequoia that would make krills flying lions, whick would make a lot of sense...

[livid valley]

maybe?

[fossil oxide]

the spirits created the krill

lions usually symbolize bravery and goodness

and justice

so thats why they made the krill act like that

[modest sequoia]

Thats what I think, considering you meet the first krill in the light-sucking factory

[fossil oxide]

light sucking factory?

[modest sequoia]

The destroyed building in GW

Destroyed diamond making place

[livid valley]

interesting

[fossil oxide]

ohh

nbut i thought we disproved the light sucking theory...

the light miners?

remember?

[livid valley]

eh

[modest sequoia]

They sucked light from butterflies and birds and such

[fossil oxide]

the "lightsucking factory" probablly is a refinery

[livid valley]

Bricky did say they must be mining dark stones

[fossil oxide]

dark stones?

what do they do?

[modest sequoia]

They may of got greedy and tried to refine a manta... And it went wrong

[livid valley]

its dark

[fossil oxide]

ohhhhhhhhhhhh

[livid valley]

kkekek

[tender dune]

Using dark stones (inorganic) and mixing it with butteflies (organic) is what makes the power diamonds (from what i understood)

[lethal stump]

in regards to what they’re mining, it’s « light »

[tender dune]

Ah it is?

[lethal stump]

« Tearful Light Miner »

[livid valley]

make sense

[tender dune]

Ah

Oh bricky did u see the potential poop sudhan found? Looks like the one

(I know u don't like talking about it too )

[lethal stump]

also, i rewatched some spirit cutscenes, and it seems that there’s more than one way to get light
« Laughing Light Catcher » is shown catching these...weird glowing orbs which i can only assume are light

and these orbs seem to come off of birds in the cutscene

[tender dune]

Wait aren't birds delivering orbs = birds delivering the new souls after rebirth?? (I remember reading about that)

Like the prince megan doodle

[livid valley]

it does?

[lethal stump]

the prince megan doodle is of the flame being given to the prince

so maybe part of that concept was kept, and light creatures gave light to the ancestors

buuuuuuut

eventually something happened and the ancestors had to mine for light deposits themselves rather than being given it ?

[livid valley]

hmmm

[fossil oxide]

maybe there are many ways to get light and they did it all

u see after hidden forest there are diamond everywhere

they probably needed as mauch as they could get

oh and just to make sure all the realms are is the same age

right

[lethal stump]

what do you mean ?

[fossil oxide]

im not traveling in time if i travel from 1 realm to another right?

[lethal stump]

no, aside from moving forward in time like one would regularly do

[fossil oxide]

oh.

yeah.

right

[livid valley]

if Gw temple really looks like this its pretty cool

[tender dune]

Tho it would be strange that such an elder site would be filled with goop

[lethal stump]

i mean, teth’s temple is filled with darkness

[livid valley]

E

[silver fjord]

Who’s that big fish at the transition from valley to GW?

[livid valley]

Whale

[lethal stump]

we also see them in forest and orbit

[livid valley]

fluffy

[silver fjord]

Wah

[livid valley]

heh

[wind arch]

where do the other doors in gw might lead to

also the temple sizes increase as we go on

[tender dune]

Yeah filled with darkness plants but not goop xD

If those pipes are waste then why dump them on the temple (that's what i meant)

Dark plants found in/around temples

• Isle (at spirit place)
• forest (in)
• valley (maze)
  Praire, GW, vault (no plants)

Anyone wondered about those?

[topaz girder]

why is this blue

[lethal stump]

what is it ?

[topaz girder]

i don't know

[livid valley]

because yes

where are you now?

[lethal stump]

where is it

[topaz girder]

it was on the first krill area , it sticks out from one of the pillars

[lethal stump]

looks like a texture bug

[livid valley]

must be a bug then

[topaz girder]

i've never seen it before so i suspected it was some kind of bug

or at least i've never noticed

[edgy sequoia]

Looks like a legit diamond

Also

[tender dune]

Been trying to send texture missing from cave crab but doesnt wanna send

[topaz girder]

i also noticed one of the gw pillars has a diamond shape thing like those in eden ???

[edgy sequoia]

The mantas in pre-Orbit ascension sounds like people in a choir

[lethal stump]

lots of pillars have that shape

[topaz girder]

hmm yea

kat sending useless information everyday 😎

[livid valley]

love your useless info

[tender dune]

Potential poop sudha found (scroll down for vid)
#lore-discussion-spoilers message

[livid valley]

brighttest poop ever

[tender dune]

Yeah hahaha

[wind arch]

could be it

theres also a floating shell in sanc

[livid valley]

shell

[lethal stump]

that’s just a bug

[errant juniper]

I don't think that's it since there's 6 of them

Sometimes they show up if you didn't get there by boat

[tender dune]

poop

I vote poop tbh ( the thing sudhansu found)

Also bricky thought you'd find this funny considering its sort of an inside joke
#lore-discussion-spoilers message

[livid valley]

[smoky topaz]

Is there any lore about the crabs???

Why are they so feisty?

[tender dune]

Oh boi

[topaz girder]

what does feisty mean

[tender dune]

Because they're dark creatures

They'd hate light creatures like us

[smoky topaz]

I don't think they were dark creatures at first

There are wall painting at ark

That say otherwise

[livid valley]

im not sure there were theory about krebs

[tender dune]

They weren't as you can see from ark paintings. There are also 2 small peaceful crabs in sanc

[topaz girder]

there's a mural in the kreb enchantment cave , krebs used to live peacefully together with other creatures , even with light creatures . but then people took water and then kreb mad

[livid valley]

PFT

[smoky topaz]

Hmmmmmm

[tender dune]

The ark story goes that the crabs lived peacefullty in their water.
The people came and took their water (they were still fine)
But after that the water levels dropped because of the people taking water
So eventually the crabs got angry and so chased the people + light creatures away

[lone hull]

It's all about winged lights, correct?

[tender dune]

In that story im not sure if they were still normal but angry crabs or if they got corrupted from anger and so attacked people

What do you mean cat?

[smoky topaz]

Makes sense

[livid valley]

hm

[tender dune]

If you notice almost all the angry crabs are near dark plants (or murky water)

So it might have to do something with corruption since the plants we see drop this dust thats like the thing on the crabs and krills

[fossil oxide]

the bad crabs have a darness crust starting to form around them...

soooooo

[tender dune]

That's why we say they're corrupted (because of that dark dust falling off)

[fossil oxide]

we can assume that the crabs are like the statues in eden and the ancestor spirits

but they can move

so they hit ppl

or they get irritated because of the crust and hit nearby moving things

[smoky topaz]

Tru tru

[tender dune]

They hate light

[fossil oxide]

the latters most likely

it makes real life biological sense

[tender dune]

If you light the lantern and observe from far you'll see them attack the lantern until it turns off

[livid valley]

mhm

[fossil oxide]

the light hurts their eyes b/c they live in the dark

maybe its ilke turning the lights on when u wake up in the middle of the night

[tender dune]

And if you walk near one it will react in anger but if you honk they will almost all react

[fossil oxide]

and imagine that pain perpetually

[tender dune]

You can take them out in the sunlight and they won't care

[fossil oxide]

hmmmmmmmmmmmm

that undermines all our theories including the originals

[smoky topaz]

I think there's different types of crabs

[fossil oxide]

maybe we should go with the crust irritation theory but they also attack lanturns because fire moves

[smoky topaz]

Like the ones in office

[lethal stump]

office isnt lore related

[fossil oxide]

the more crust the more irritation and stress

not crust= no attacks

makes sense huh?

[smoky topaz]

The ones is sanctuary also have a shine

[fossil oxide]

maybe all crabs used to shine

but then they gort crusted

and now the light is blocked

[wind arch]

does anyone have any theories oh how the deepcall faints the crab? or how it recharges light of players

[livid valley]

Hmmm

[tender dune]

Ones in office are peaceful crabs

There are 2 crabs
Uncorrpted and corrupted

Aaand gtg

[fossil oxide]

deep call is the embodiment of light just like the krill call is tangible the deep call could be semi tangible

and to crabs, its enough to flip them

for the heavy s.kids, it doesnt flip us

[wind arch]

so its like a whoosh of wind

is what you mean

[smoky topaz]

More like a whoosh of energy

It's like how positive and negative energies or opposite

One pushes the other away

Like magnets I guess

[hushed steeple]

I have risen from eden, whats up ya’ll?

[smoky topaz]

Discussing about the origins of crabs

[tranquil plover]

Interesting

[hushed steeple]

Ohhhh krebs hmmm

what’s been established so far?

[smoky topaz]

There's at least two types of crabs

The un corrupted and corrupted

[topaz girder]

the peaceful krebs in sanc seems to be living near water

[wind arch]

and get plenty of sunlight

[edgy sequoia]

I think that Crebs living most of their time in darkness semms to be more violent and damngerous

sorry if I have a lot of typos

keyboard is acting up again

[smoky topaz]

You can see their corruption level based on rust

[hushed steeple]

maybe because the crabs in gw and like dark places dont see light often their eyes (or whatever) is not used to light. So any light/skykid irritates them and they attack

[edgy sequoia]

You can see their corruption level based on rust
@smoky topaz rust?

oh you mean the black thingies on their bodies?

[smoky topaz]

Like the dark dust that surrounds them

The angrier they get

[edgy sequoia]

ahh

[smoky topaz]

They more corrupted they become

[edgy sequoia]

Sorry I'm veruy slow so,etimes

[hushed steeple]

rust could be something that melts in light which is why sanc carbs are rustless?

[edgy sequoia]

could be

notice how the cave krebs are black under natural sunlight

[smoky topaz]

Yuh yuh

[edgy sequoia]

the krebs must have been there too long that when they got exposed to the sun, they got tan immediately

[smoky topaz]

Lmao

[fiery condor]

something i noticed, not sure if it's true tho. if you listen to some of flOw's music, it sounds almost like the music in ark

[smoky topaz]

Anyone have opinions on guilds?

Do guilds exist?

[wind arch]

Factions?

[pseudo lagoon]

this is far fetched but the EARLy cutscene from extremely early beta said this.. my brain instantly went to "beware the prophecy"

credit to taras sky journey

[wind arch]

Woah

[kind moat]

omg!!!

[topaz girder]

we goin to restore light boys 😎

[kind moat]

i wanna watch that

finally

[smoky topaz]

There's also some subtitles now in the cutscenes at the start

[pseudo lagoon]

if we do i will literally cry lmao

[kind moat]

season of darkness

[pseudo lagoon]

oop

[kind moat]

what I basically wishing for

[wind arch]

objective: restore light

[pseudo lagoon]

dude isle looks so different early.. i wish i could experience it

like fr

[kind moat]

isle was literally just an isle

[tender dune]

So the returning children are the ones we saw in the poster?

I used to think children meant us skids

[wind arch]

isle now isnt even an isle

[pseudo lagoon]

it used to be called dawn

[kind moat]

isle now isnt even an isle
@wind arch true to that

[tender dune]

Well its called isle of dawn now xD

[pseudo lagoon]

yeah haha

[kind moat]

remember how sky kids literally would only go to isle for the boat

[tender dune]

[pseudo lagoon]

idk what you’re talking about but yes

[wind arch]

and to get wings?

thats beta

[tender dune]

Ah we usually talk live here thats why

[kind moat]

oh was that beta. it was so cool tho

so the the returning spirit are children

[tender dune]

Or now grownups

[kind moat]

or there's finally a chibi spirit

[pseudo lagoon]

yeah i find it kinda weird how the chibi mask spirit isn’t even small 😔

[lucid shale]

Hello, does anyone know any story related to this one particular jar or vase in Vault ?

I am just curious as to why this is the only jar that has lights in vault of knowledge

[sly kestrel]

It’s part of an old beta quest
It doesn’t have any lore significance, it’s jus something leftover from a really old version of the game

[wind arch]

What did it do?

[sly kestrel]

The quest was to find the pot

[wind arch]

oh

[sly kestrel]

What it gave you, I don’t remember clearly but it was probably a candle

U might be able to see these side quests in actions if u go to YouTube and search up Sky Light Awaits

[livid valley]

cool

finding the pot quest sounds really easy

[fossil oxide]

wow that one looks like it hasent gone to a kiln yet

its all browny and yellowy

like stone age pots

or it could be yellow stone..

why dont the koi have eyes?

and why do the koi look like female swordtails?

and they swim waaaaay too fast

female swordtail

the main question was the eyes...

[livid valley]

eye

[fossil oxide]

oh.

right

[round river]

Is wasteland located on cloud or under cloud?

Bcs from pic in opening cutscene it shows on cloud but from canon art it's under cloud
If it really is under cloud that's mean wasteland had always lack of light
Or probably in between cloud

[fossil oxide]

also they dont have ventral fins

[lethal stump]

i think it’s meant to be under the clouds, TP

[livid valley]

Is wasteland located on cloud or under cloud?
Bcs from pic in opening cutscene it shows on cloud but from canon art it's under cloud
If it really is under cloud that's mean wasteland had always lack of light
@round river well valley mustve been pretty high so they build the entrance there so it must be upper on the clouds but entering the "main area" is under the clouds

[fossil oxide]

and pectoral fins

[round river]

well valley mustve been pretty high so they build the entrance there so it must be upper on the clouds but entering the "main area" is under the clouds

I see
So the main area had always lack of light which causes darkness growing

[lunar gazelle]

Its make me curious now, why the constellation for favourite friend have a weird shape? Is that crown shape?
Sorry asking out of blue... but i ask in right channel yes?

[lethal stump]

That’s the crown, the « Eden constellation » so to speak

[tender dune]

corona borealis

[livid valley]

^^^ and you can ask in #questions-and-help or here its your choice<as long its lore related

[fossil oxide]

are there diseases in sky?

[tender dune]

Other than the plant doing something to the miners friend we dont know

Most likely

[lethal stump]

Well, you could consider « corruption » a disease but other than that it’s up to you

idk why there wouldn’t be

[livid valley]

hm

[fossil oxide]

oh guys we should make scientific names for all the sky creatures

we`re the lore channel

we do weird things

[livid valley]

big brain people name em

[fossil oxide]

arent we big brained ppl?

[livid valley]

correct

[fossil oxide]

sooooooo......

[tender dune]

I mean they have names technically

[livid valley]

in real life manta ray are called Manta birostris

[fossil oxide]

but mantas in sky are not part of the mobula family

probably

family?

idk...

[livid valley]

maybe

[fossil oxide]

sky mantas r more like eagle rays....

[livid valley]

true

its hard to name the butterflies since they need to have a proper name before having the scientific name

[fossil oxide]

ohhhhhhhhhh

right...

[livid valley]

so any idea

[fossil oxide]

we could find butterflies with 1 color and replace the back half

with something like light

for latin

like lux

[livid valley]

OOOoo

[lethal stump]

do you think there’s enough animals in game to find their kingdom, phylum, class, order, family, genus, and species ?

[livid valley]

well theres not much honestly

[wind arch]

Cancer Tenebrae

jk

[lethal stump]

the way we could classify specifically sky creatures could be:

Light, Dark, or Neutral creature
Realm/habitat (where they’re found) ???
Family (like how there’s multiple types of manta)
Species

[fossil oxide]

the butterfly could be pieris lux

[livid valley]

MM yes

[wind arch]

Which ones would be neutral? skids?

[livid valley]

yes

wait

[lethal stump]

skids, ancestors, and tuna king seem to be neutral creatures

[wind arch]

yeah

[livid valley]

phew

[lethal stump]

elders strike me as dark creatures but not Entirely Dark or else they’d be monstrous probably

hold up
lemme get something i made a lil while ago

[livid valley]

👌🏻

[lethal stump]

this is how i view it

[livid valley]

[tender dune]

Its like the concept pic

[livid valley]

this will be pretty helpful

[lethal stump]

it’s mostly based on this lol

[tender dune]

Also i was staring at these creatures which i used to call baby mantas but i guess they're birds

Yeah knew i remember something similar xD

[lethal stump]

they could be birds, they could be baby mantas

[livid valley]

some kind of bird species

[lethal stump]

or a subspieces of manta

[tender dune]

Probably but they wont evolve / will grow into the bigger mono-wings

[wind arch]

I guess krill are blue too since their lights are blue most of the time

[tender dune]

I thought i wrote meownings for a second my brain

[livid valley]

make sense

[fossil oxide]

in sanctuary thayre summoned with mantas

so they are baby mantas

[lethal stump]

We don’t know that

We don’t know that sanc represents their life cycle

[lone hull]

Linear line becomes a circle = miracle
Bricky Brikson | Uber thanks for the picture.

[fossil oxide]

their caudal fins (?) get smaller as they grow....

[tender dune]

Bells call all light creatures not specifically mantas

U mean their spikes pyre?

[fossil oxide]

but then why would they call just 1 type of bird and the rest mantas?

their tails gink

[tender dune]

Ah that

[wind arch]

Maybe they have multiple evolutions

[tender dune]

I remember we saw a bird creature similar to the 'baby mantas' in the concepts and it was called a bird

[wind arch]

yeah

[livid valley]

oh?

[tender dune]

It doesn't look look like these

The small ones flying only have a small yellow part

But are mostly white and puffy

[wind arch]

If we have butterflies where are the caterpillars

[lethal stump]

hère theyre called butterflies

[livid valley]

what if the butteries were never born larvae?

[wind arch]

It does say roughs, so it doesnt have to be the exact match of the creatures we have today

[tender dune]

ill drop in from time to time

[fossil oxide]

"mantas" in sky can be called Myliobatis Mono, Quad, Hexa, Seniorem

scientific names.......

[livid valley]

hehehe this is awesome

[fossil oxide]

butterfies would be PPieris Lux

i mea Pieris Lux

Krill are mechanic

[wind arch]

u missed creb

[lethal stump]

We don’t know if krills are mechanic or not

[fossil oxide]

crabs would be Cancer Tenebris

dark crabs!!!!!

[lethal stump]

they could very well be natural and simply have bad joints

[fossil oxide]

ok...

[wind arch]

Ahh arthritis

[livid valley]

Krills=Draco necromae

[lethal stump]

although an interesting thing about crabs is that they might not be natural
in a dev hint we were told « crab walk cycles mimic something related to how they are made » which makes me think they’re not natural

[wind arch]

yes since they say they are made

[fossil oxide]

krills i was thinking Euphausiacea Arthritis

[wind arch]

crabs always gather around water?

[livid valley]

well then crabs should called kreb

[fossil oxide]

what is necromae

plz someone enlighten me

[livid valley]

darkness

[fossil oxide]

i thought that was tenebris?

[livid valley]

idk i just searched it up

[fossil oxide]

anyways grill your krill scientific name is much cooler

we should go with yours

[livid valley]

:DDD

[toxic delta]

so butterflies are transported in jars

whats the point of migrating with em

[fossil oxide]

but necromae should be replaced with tenebris

google seems to think necromae isnt a word...

[livid valley]

lol Google is weird

[fossil oxide]

soooooooo Draco Tenebris

[livid valley]

sounds great

[fossil oxide]

ooooooooh the whale

remember its a fish

[wind arch]

Migrating just made me realise that butterflies dont travel long distances; unlike most other light creatures

[livid valley]

mm

yes

[fossil oxide]

similar to a colecanth

go!!!!!!

[toxic delta]

i meant sky people seem to travel with jars of butterflies

[livid valley]

[toxic delta]

so m wondering what are their use

[fossil oxide]

Latimeria Cetaceans

[wind arch]

Thats for energy use/conversion into darkstone

[livid valley]

OOooo pretty cool name Pyre

[fossil oxide]

thx

[wind arch]

name for the pls

[fossil oxide]

Pieris Lux

[wind arch]

oh i forgot

[fossil oxide]

we made that one looooooooooong ago

^u^^

[livid valley]

Aight

[fossil oxide]

what else we got.......

[wind arch]

u forgot skid

[fossil oxide]

oh the s kids!

right

gill could u make that one

ill do the elders

[livid valley]

it could be hard since we dont even know its a creature

[fossil oxide]

llets just go with primates

like humans

[wind arch]

noo

[fossil oxide]

then.....

[livid valley]

hmmm

[wind arch]

how do we even knoe skids are creatures

[livid valley]

lol

[fossil oxide]

we control them..

[wind arch]

We could be terracotta shells

[fossil oxide]

we have this link

[livid valley]

made of clay with a soul

[fossil oxide]

maybe the genus should be lutum

so the elders would be Lutum Seniorem

[livid valley]

Oooo

[fossil oxide]

[jolly narwhal]

Hello, sorry for interrupting
I've been reading up on the ideas and theories in the non canon document, and at some point it is mentioned under the murals section that the goal was to restore the elders back to the light. At that point, just underneath, it says undermining idea : valley elders take the light and play with it/forest elder snatches it and hammers it.
I'm not sure I understand how that undermines that theory, since in the canon document it is said "it is not that the elders are in the temples now when the skykids visit there. The elders are deeply related to those places but they are not there now.
The locations of [their] cutscenes are somewhere beyond space and time"
I don't know if I made sense

[wind arch]

yes dirt grandpas

that was the translation

[fossil oxide]

hahahah

i know

[wind arch]

i guess its broke

[livid valley]

PFT

[fossil oxide]

grills?

the s kids

.............

[livid valley]

[fossil oxide]

should i do it?

or do u want to

[wind arch]

I think that when we meditate our soul (blue orb) is transported to the dimension of the elders ( through the eden like beams we see after each cutscene) and somehow we do take our light to the elders. i think we do take our light there, but the elders do need our light, the valley elders playing with it might just be their nature as they seem to be quite young

[livid valley]

Igneous Psyche?

[fossil oxide]

let me run that in the translator.....

[livid valley]

well i didnt take any weird language

[fossil oxide]

like a latin translator.....

[wind arch]

Also the elders do need our light, as shown in each cutscene they use it to fix stuff?

[fossil oxide]

i dont speak latin so i use google....

[livid valley]

no i didnt use latin Oops

[fossil oxide]

ohhhhhhh.

[livid valley]

i take igneous from the three main rock clusters in earth and Psyche from so called human mind

[fossil oxide]

ohhhhh.

[opal briar]

I mean the cut senses can be visited if oob’ed

[fossil oxide]

psyche is probably greek

it should be latin...

genus, name

[livid valley]

Kk ye Pysche is greek

[fossil oxide]

like that

[jolly narwhal]

Yes grandpa blu, that's why I don't understand why that undermines that theory 🤔

[fossil oxide]

the genus shooouuuuld b lutum

b/c the s kids are clay

[wind arch]

i dont think it really does

[livid valley]

true

[fossil oxide]

what should be the species name?

grill?

[wind arch]

lutem lucerna

lucerna means candle btw

sounds cool but doesnt fit so well

[fossil oxide]

i think its fun

[wind arch]

sound like a harry potter spell tbh

[fossil oxide]

they r human lanterns....

[livid valley]

PFT

[fossil oxide]

im pretty sure harry potter spells are latin...

[wind arch]

Partially

Lets not discuss that rabbit hole 👀

[livid valley]

Lutum Animo?

haha yes clay mind

what should be the species name?
Hmm they are rocks right?

[fossil oxide]

no clay....

lutum is clay...

[livid valley]

skfdakv

you name the species

[fossil oxide]

jelly fish...

[wind arch]

How come jellyfish look like ghost mantas? did all the jellies die?

[livid valley]

Cnidaria Scyphozoa < heres the jellyfish name

[fossil oxide]

Chrysaora Lux...

oh

yours is better...

[livid valley]

nah

[fossil oxide]

im slipping

[livid valley]

that literally means jellyfish

we can take one of the words and make it fit the sky creatures perhaps

[fossil oxide]

wait Cnidaria is a phylum

were looking for a genus

[livid valley]

light Obelia huh

[fossil oxide]

kinda yeah...

should we go with that?

[wind arch]

Any names for the plants

[livid valley]

sounds great

[fossil oxide]

a moment later we still need the fungi and the spirit mantas

we need a tree fungus

genus

[wind arch]

dont you get candlesfrom the mushroom

[fossil oxide]

no...

[livid valley]

we need a tree fungus
@fossil oxide sounds like the job for the fungi which can make you float

[fossil oxide]

yup that

[livid valley]

Hmm

[fossil oxide]

Ganoderma

is the genus

grill will u do the back half?

[wind arch]

Lucerna

[fossil oxide]

hmmm

sound ok...

[wind arch]

im sorry idk why i typed that

[fossil oxide]

oh.

[wind arch]

dont us it

[fossil oxide]

ok we wont ‎Myliobatis Spiritus

spirit manta....

[tender dune]

[livid valley]

Scientific names for the creatures of Sky:
Draco Tenebris -Dark dragons
Latimeria Cetaceans-Whale/fish
Pieris Lux-Butterflies
Lutum Seniorem-Elders
Lutum Animo-S kids
Chrysaora Lux-Jellyfish

[fossil oxide]

great!!!!!!!!

[livid valley]

will add more when we name more creatures

[wind arch]

Plants

[livid valley]

and yes that

[fossil oxide]

patience ......

[wind arch]

Whats Lutem animo

[fossil oxide]

the skids

[topaz girder]

skids

[fossil oxide]

moving clay

[hushed steeple]

[wind arch]

noice

[fossil oxide]

hey gramps join the namings!

u can star the plants!

[wind arch]

🙃

[fossil oxide]

start

[wind arch]

I seriously dont know

[fossil oxide]

thats why they made google

[livid valley]

Google can help

[tender dune]

does it tho

[fossil oxide]

spirit whales would be ....

wow i really need help with this one

i have to put in the eagle ray genus,

spirit in latin

[tender dune]

They're called elder manta so you could use the manta fam again

[fossil oxide]

and something to distinguish it from the spirit manta

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[topaz girder]

big

[wind arch]

cadytas obscuratio

cadytas is a parasitic plant

[hushed steeple]

[wind arch]

obscuration is somethin darkness

its too much ik

[fossil oxide]

would this be the darkness plant...

[livid valley]

whats the tree fungi name again

[wind arch]

yes

[fossil oxide]

its perfect!

could someone plz make a chart...

[wind arch]

[fossil oxide]

there are sooooo many

gink?

plz

[tender dune]

Whats the manta name u gave?

[wind arch]

I feel we need more people to agree on it

[livid valley]

Scientific names for the creatures of Sky:
Draco Tenebris -Dark dragons
Latimeria Cetaceans-Whale/fish
Pieris Lux-Butterflies
Lutum Seniorem-Elders
Lutum Animo-S kids
Chrysaora Lux-Jellyfish
Myliobatis Spiritus-spirit manta
cadytas obscuratio-darkness

whats next again

[fossil oxide]

‎Myliobatis Spiritus spirit manta

[tender dune]

For elders you can just add Major instead of seniorem (its also latin)

[fossil oxide]

hmmmm

good idea

[tender dune]

Major myliobatis spiritus - elder

[fossil oxide]

wow

that is epic

[tender dune]

Or maybe she's actually a diff species

Wait

[wind arch]

yes anyone else with suggestions please come forward

[livid valley]

whats the tree fungi name again?

[wind arch]

actually there are two types of dark plants

[livid valley]

actually there are two types of dark plants
@wind arch

[wind arch]

Cadytas Obcuratio

[fossil oxide]

Draco Tenebris -Dark dragons
Latimeria Cetaceans-Whale/fish
Pieris Lux-Butterflies
Lutum Seniorem-Elders
Lutum Animo-S kids
Chrysaora Lux-Jellyfish
Myliobatis Spiritus-spirit manta

[wind arch]

Yes

[fossil oxide]

is that the tree gramps?

[wind arch]

yes

[tender dune]

Major myliobatis spiritus - cosmic elder manta

[fossil oxide]

Cadytas Obcuratio-Darkness TreeLatimeria Cetaceans-Whale/fish
Pieris Lux-Butterflies
Lutum Seniorem-Elders
Lutum Animo-S kids
Chrysaora Lux-Jellyfish
Myliobatis Spiritus-spirit manta

[wind arch]

theres the trees with the spiky ends and silmilar looking plants with curved ends

[fossil oxide]

i know

[tender dune]

But its still different from the small mantas tbh because we can see the cosmic manta with 2 babies

[wind arch]

The curved end ones dont have branches

[fossil oxide]

tree fungus guys

[wind arch]

So we need a name for that too

[livid valley]

dont worry i will keep up the name

on the list

so you guys can keep talking

[fossil oxide]

Ganoderma Perspicuus

tree fungus

[wind arch]

The smaller variety: Cadytas Minor

[fossil oxide]

wonderful

[tender dune]

Its called cadytas?

[wind arch]

a parasitic plant

the genus

[fossil oxide]

that reminds me the smaller jellyfish

[tender dune]

👌

[fossil oxide]

and the king jelly

[wind arch]

k im going to et happy theorising

[tender dune]

I think jellyfish are the same species

[fossil oxide]

oh...

then the king

jelly

in eden

[tender dune]

The only ones who look different are the grownup ones in orbit

[livid valley]

Scientific names for the creatures of Sky:
Draco Tenebris -Dark dragons
Latimeria Cetaceans-Whale/fish
Pieris Lux-Butterflies
Lutum Seniorem-Elders
Lutum Animo-S kids
Chrysaora Lux-Jellyfish
Myliobatis Spiritus-spirit manta
Major myliobatis spiritus - elder cosmic manta
cadytas obscuratio-darkness
Ganoderma Lux-tree fungus(the ones in forest)
Cadytas Minor-darkness (smaller version of cadytas obscuratio)
Chrysaora Rex-King jelly

[tender dune]

Cuz they have horns

[livid valley]

Just to put here is there any errors?

[buoyant heart]

what about the crabs

[livid valley]

TGC said krebs were "made" so nah

[fossil oxide]

Chrysaora Rex

[tender dune]

Major myliobatis spiritus - elder cosmic manta @livid valley

[buoyant heart]

ohh okay

[fossil oxide]

Chrysaora Rex King jelly

[tender dune]

We can use the species for the peaceful crabs tho

[fossil oxide]

right

[tender dune]

Since they're 'before corruption'

[fossil oxide]

cancer pacificae

cancer ferox

[tender dune]

Brachyura is another name too

[wispy canopy]

Hey guys what's the topic, hey teth

[tender dune]

Heya infinity

[lethal stump]

they’re making scientific names for the creatures of sky

[tender dune]

We're scientifically naming the animal species

[fossil oxide]

scientific names for sky creatures

[livid valley]

Hey guys what's the topic, hey teth
@wispy canopy Scientific names for Creatures

[tender dune]

xD

[wispy canopy]

This just got interesting

[fossil oxide]

i know right

its strangely fun

cancer pacificae good crab cancer ferox bad crab

[wispy canopy]

Well I gtg, brb, science stuff is and isn't my thing, gd lk buds

[tender dune]

Thing is crabs are also called (the order) decapoda but we cant use that since it means 10-feet xD

[fossil oxide]

cancer pacificae good crab cancer ferox bad crab(edited)

so we use cancer

thats the genus for crab

[tender dune]

Malum would be better for the evil ones since it means evil

Or malus even

Sadly i dunno latin grammar so

[fossil oxide]

but pacifist crabs arent good.....

soooooo