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They're fun
Is this a magnetic body and leg
The top and bottom half seem to be separate (i think the top is them carrying a rock to hide-ram others) and the real body is the bottom with legs

White outline real body (my theory)
Cute eheheh
In the cursed sunglasses spirit story you'll see the crab wearing its hat
I remember someone mentioning something about 'decorative crabs?'
In the anniversary the peaceful crabs wore gifts
So it could be possible that these crabs wear those rocks as decor for protection
The crab was also wearing sunglass btw
Cute
Could be boop!
Possibly
The bottom crab body is so thin btw
This is scary to look at
It actually looks more like a real crab though, and those are pretty thin
Mhm
If that is their body is pretty impossible since they need to fit yk if they have organs to do stuff
I wonder if the IK rigging is separated for the two parts of the crab?
eyeballs?
Their eyeballs jump out when they hid?
@hushed steeple it jumps into your face
i'm not sure that's the whole crab, the camera might be clipping a bit into it
Their movement is very fast so i think sadly game mechanics wise the eye balls pop out while they hide
Those are screenshots from a long video I took of the crabs. Its all the same spearmonkey
Especially because aren’t the eyes connected to the upper part of the crab’s rig?
The quality is killing me
Anyways... I wanna ask if there's a being similar to the way crabs hide? Animals? Plants? Machines? Pokémons?
@hushed steeple
Do you mean if they hide in a similar way, or react similarly, or what?
But can you specify what is that 
It's a crab wearing sunglasses grill
Kreb is more cooler than my uncle confirmed
Can't find the clear image
Where were y'all when i made my crab reports
probably not even playing the game yet, knowing me 
Where were y'all when i made my crab reports
@tender dune sleeping
I mean, hermit crabs do hide sort of like the dark crabs, but the only hangup is that hermit crabs are slow bois
Probably i was not in earth that Time ginko
i can't think of what creature walks around with that kind of swaying waddle while balancing something on its head
The crabs when undisturbed walk slow
Good point
Its only when we anger them that they skiddadle
wait, are IRL crabs capable of walking forwards and backwards? i was under the impression they can only walk sideways
Sideways just zoom fast
Only sideways yes the sky version of crab is not the same
Game crab has 4 legs and no claws
We just called em crabs 👌
They act kinda like bulls. The red flags that people wave don’t anger them because of the color, it’s the movement and then they go anger zoom
Anyway we made a discovery if you hug someone when krill spots you.. it distracts the krill
so whatever they're based on, they're probably not actually crabs...just like our dark dragons over there
And it depends on the crab species how it walks
Anyway I made a discovery if you hug someone when krill spots you.. it distracts the krill
@hushed steeple super wholesome so krill Dosent want to attack
"eww, friendship, i'm out" 
yeah see, it looked away out of embarrassment 
Not sure I wanna use this glitch tho won't be helpful 
Oooh it might
because when i was letting it discover me for the 3rd-4th time (i crab-then-spam death emote) krill will suddenly break and charge without a warning 😂

Lol it's a cute away to avoid their attack🤣
i found my crab vids ill try to trim them (non-nitro user ; v ; )
Oof
there're theories about the krill's timer still counting down/not resetting, though i personally think it might have to do with its pose -- it's still partially reared back in the air if it sees you again before it's gone back to patrolling
so it's already partially coiled up and ready to lunge, like a crouching cat
Ye, crab-spam apparently works...
creb hide
Back to lore 
oh that is weird when played frame by frame
it does hide its eyes when its inside
it creates the right illusion of movement, but having its eyes disconnected from the portion of its body with its legs is bizarre 
me with poor net trying hard to play the video
Same
maybe try the tame ones outside?
office might be harder to get a close-up on them though because of all the clutter
sure ill go to kreg and krebo
they're smaller tho so im not sure how much details you'll see
the outside islands, the only thing you need to worry about is if other players come along and flip the poor critters 
When you do nothing
Crab:so you have chosen death
When you wanted to do something video or etc
Crab:nah fam
Are the office stuff related to lore? I don't think so
no
Also one thing interesting about crabs: we destroy darkness plants with light from our flame so wouldn't it make sense to silence the crebs using lights? But we use deep calls; what could this mean
Are the office stuff related to lore? I don't think so
@alpine geyser not a single piece of it
deep calls can relight an unlit player though, so there's some kind of light property going on there most likely
The fire from our candle burns in water and is self sustaining.
when you light a flame they get angry, the crabs attack the light sources until they turn off
Holy cow
Yeah
I cant imagine how hot the flame is
the candle only works underwater in the ice rink -- trying to pull it out anywhere else where you're swimming will cause you to put it away immediately
yeah because swimming is movement (like if u try to run/fly with a candle)
when you light a flame they get angry, the crabs attack the light sources until they turn off
@tender dune yes I've tested it in graveyard if you light a pot thing they'll attack and turn it off
But the fact is can sustain combustion under water is insane
i might need to try testing that more if i can get a piggybacked player submerged 
What the eden
yeah friendship candle is always lit
Those are just game mechanics ig
Yh

Cause you can't recharge yourself with friendship candles too
yeah friendship candle is always lit
@tender dune THE power of FRIENDSHIP IS UNSTOPPABLE
-anime characters
Cause you can't recharge yourself with friendship candles too
@alpine geyser you can
Never tried it lol
you can't recharge yourself with your own candles as far as i know, but white candles will interact with other players (i.e. you can use it to light strangers or complete the "make a new acquaintance" quest)
Should try 👌
Yes also i think you can use it ro light power diamonds for opening doors
You can recharge yourself with your own candles
Light barriers
Idk but my friend rescued me with her candle when i fell asleep in forest.. she told her friendship candle saved us both from toxic rain

the power of friendship truly is OP
Nice friend I will look at my moth drain to death and play music
it could of been that you two just recharged your self
The real Megan was the friends we made along the way
Tbh i was sleeping 30 minutes long there.... It was embarrassing
You could've have 5 wedges left if she was not there 
guys the peaceful ones aren't hiding..
new discovery?

i thought they did; are they just wandering around and stopping periodically then?
Lol
Kreb be: WOAH WOAH THERE PAL YOU WENT TOO FAR
can't really blame it when something like 20 times its size is doing a war dance 
maybe they thought you were a crab
dunno maybe it was just timing 
sometimes crabs walk slow, then for like 1-2 seconds they nyooom
yeah new discovery: peaceful crabs dont hide
time to chill with the angry ones
Crabs hide when we do
?
The crabs in the office are friendly
Try putting crabs on the manta and watch it fly across the islands😂
Aight guys imma sleep
even as much I want to stay and look at your funny theories I need rest
gnight grill 
Gn grill
Gn bates
Heilo ppl
Hello chr
My game isn't opening poor net sadly
What am I looking at when I'm bout to leave 
crab fall from jellyfish
If you lie down near an angry crab, it will be stuck in a perpetual cycle of calming down, getting ready to attack and calming down again.
Hello very nice person your new here?
Well i think 0.62 kbps isn't good for playing sky?
yeah lamb
crab fall from jellyfish
@tender dune oh and manta?
Yes grill
too far from manta rn, chilling with crab
Oww ok
I am going to go there and try
when they hide in the shell they have no eyes
I am new hea
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By Bricky
The only reliable to carry crabs while flying is if you are piggyback riding and hold the crab
Aight imma go now 
yeah lamb 
You can carry crabs while flying but with wings closed
bricky always watching dont mind him 
It's 9:30 Grandapa Blu is going to sleep early today 
Bye @livid valley
9:30 here as well wow
what other tests you want me to do?
btw i stayed there for a whole minute and they remained like that, when a player just approached me they began their frenzy
*you can warp to ur frnd with crab but can't take it home -_-
Well here is a thought, bring a crab when you are about to die with no cape and see if you can get the crab into the dark room

Then you can warp
i feel like ginko's just lying there doing a david attenborough narration about crabs right now
To home
Ash said once crabs mimic some creature right what's that?
i dunno who david is but yes
Well Tuesday figured it out many days ago
the crab's walk cycle gives a hint as to what it actually is according to one of the devs, yeah
😂 ok

Does it have any significance in lore? Ig yes! But what?
i...can't quite see it, can you elaborate?
i meant amio, i've never seen a bat move in a similar way to how the crabs walk
and i've never seen a bat walk either -- just fly and swim
what on earth 
i’m scared
OOf wrong channel

It's the walk cycle only that mimics bat btw
they def react more when we honk but i think its because we produce light and not sound
yeah, i've never seen a bat put on a helmet and then hide in it
They still attack us when our light is drained though
yes
crabs dont care
krills will be distracted when you lose a wl as they're charging
Wait what
my friend wanted to be capeless so we went to graveyard
once she lost her light and started losing wl:
Krill wanted to charge, lost wl, got ignored.
Crabs didnt care and kept massively attacking her
i had to stand next to her to get her krilled
they ignored her completely
Weird lol
i guess crabs are territorial while krills want to eat some of that wl

Also i noticed when krills move they leave some dust behind maybe all of u noticed but krills also give a gust of wind under them. If u stand under them your character will flinch
It does when krills leg seems to touch us
i think it's part of their programming -- like i imagine what actually launches us when we get krilled is the wind wall attached to them
yeah
I stood on graveyard tree and put a table on my head. The krill didn't spot me and kept moving when it was passing above my head my character experienced some wind
you can feel that wind whenever ur close to krills 
Don't wanna disturb krill haha
i do
krills make squishy noises so y'know when they're near by
Also when someone is hit by krill and krill is in a way to it's route it won't attack anyone else even if your close to him. Or maybe it was my poor net haha
I heard a spooky sound in eden pipeline
Lol his food isn't our wl
crab shadow doesnt exist 
manta wont carry crab and our chara will drop the crab since its considered 'flying'
the 2 mantas singing in sanc sound similar to the sounds i hear in forest area

i didn't know where to post this, but i just found out you can get 150 wings!!! does anyone know what the capes look like?????????? do you get a third diamond or smth?
tbh not sure how it looks like but i think #questions-and-help would be more knowledgeable
thank youuuu
no problem
Short trims but manta deep sounds
at forest end area (before u activate the jellyfish) you keep hearing this deep sound call, i used to think it was some other beast and not these mantas
the sound is still a bit different in forest tbh
Poor net = no video
at forest end area (before u activate the jellyfish) you keep hearing this deep sound call, i used to think it was some other beast and not these mantas
@tender dune
it sounds like whale !! i would love some kind of whale in sanc
it sounds like whale !! i would love some kind of whale in sanc
@topaz girder would be nice
my game will def crash from it but fun
When u enter thru forest u heard bird-like whistling. Which i thought was birds before but now I'm pretty sure its manta (u can hear the different sounds they make in sanc)
The sound i was confused about was this creatures deep calls. I thought it was an unknown creature but i think its most likely more manta calling sound (ngl i hope its diff creature sounds)
again sorry the vids are short 
I thought they were all manta

for some reason office crabs walk and hide, the sanc peaceful crabs didnt hide when i was with them 🤔 (must check with diff ppl)
There are peacful sanct crabs?
2
Wait is office part of sky lore👀
no but there are crabs there to test xD
Ah i see i see
sadly my server merged so i had to steal crabs from people rn 😂 im running atm
Where are the peacful crabs👀
u know where the first quest hint was? at the rocks far?
Yes
they're on the small islands to its left

Creb eye @hushed steeple
The people in office are abusing the crabs there so they're mostly flipped
Sigh can't observe them
Me: A nice place to relax...
Brain: But what if this is the location of the Prophecy 
Me: ...

Brain stop.. no more treasure hunt💩
I still have no idea.. I was away from Lore for days😅
xD
But just passed by finding people theorizing about the Prophecy while I'm still unaware about 3-4 days of theories
oof
Well the prophesy mostly has vague theories... Don't think I have seen any in depth talk yet
Ok ok so just to check the crabs cant swim right
Well then theres a biological explanation to why they are peacful
Maybe i havent done bio since covid
... Now I wanna know what happens if you drop a crab off a ledge in Office
Does it bounce on cloud
this dood keeps flipping office crabs im crying
Aha i get it i was trying to pose with one for a pic when anniversary was here and this dude came up to me, flipped it and ran out
you can drop the crabs from a high place but they'll slow fall (they appear to be lightweight and float slowly like us)
the office kid is following me
😂
Maybe they wanna be friends
Maybe if i had office cape
The other day I found a Fallen I had missed earlier in Stormlock but at least I got this view of what I thought it was a pillar. Now I think it's a Statue Holding Diamond Guy deformed by erosion!
yeah its the scholar (apparently)
its also the same as the small statues we see before stormlock and the statue we see at home (except those hold flame/etc.)
Sort of like I think the rain in Foreat Temple's stairs are much like right now
Whats stormlock
Oh theres statues there?
This
sigh gotta look thru my pics i guess
Is there a name for those useful statues...? I call the Lady Statues but.. I doesn't feel right 
they look like a mini version of the scholar statue u took a pic of i think??
Me too. This angle in stormlock is due to the Fallen petrified flying up cutscen
I meant me too, Moon. I don't have a good resolution to look around in Eden
They are pretty much alike...maybe it's something representing Vault Elders ?
but it should have the fronthead mask to recall Lamed
I spam call ppl when they flip my crabs in office
Wait we're already in different topic
i emoted but they're ignoring, they posed the crabs for pics on the couch then followed me home to befriend me * visible confusion *
not lamed
dont forget they said there is an eden elder but they can no longer be saved (i think thats the wording)
so that might be eden elder or the scholar
tbh i heard the word scholar from bricky and co. so maybe they have more info why they called them that
Yeah where does it say that, was it in like a livestream thing or something or idk
What's this floating shiny thing in ark?
You can see it in the cloud holes
No it's not moon
And its not a circle either
It's in mid air
Oh
ill go there rn
why does ur ark look yellow, shouldnt ark be blue toned? 
BTW Instead of Scholar I though those diamond holding statues loook more like a priest of some kind... Maybe Eden castle priests/monks, cause the of the longpillar hat
Maybe its just game design, the fire in the light up things in vault that appears when you start activating elevator isnt there it actually floats midair
Cause its shape i tried to see when it's less shiny is like ∆
This is moon
Yes thats the moon hole
If you try looking near an edge the shiny thing has less shine
eden?
is that wasteland?
im almost there
Yes, Wastekand - Forgotten Ark
I wouldn't look to much into those shiny orbs, there is one when we hug shiny boy in Eden
Yea
Ginko pls review that shiny thing in ark lol
Those are like the blue vault orbs but yellow
where did u see it at? (angle)
In this case it's functional to help you find the way & give Ambien t a little of loghting
It's near the broken ship on opposite side of wing location
Looking at the boundary near the broken ship... I'll look at that next time there
Speaking of wasteland why the krill and crab have black gunk on them
Corruption

What if they aint corrupted
pollutant
Aight makes sense
the picture was on near the crab cave right?
Opposide side of cave
There are 2 caves. One with wl and one with crabs
It's in mid air and not at great height you can reach with one flap
One maze like cave with murals, opposite to it
I think its the same as this shine i see (which is the moon)
ill keep trying to find it

rip
Rip
I was on my cr and just noticed hey what's this lol and when i went back broken temple my plants didn't burn lol
Nope it does nothing except shining lol
And if you see through any edge of anything it's shine would reduce a bit and tbh i'ts shape is like a triangle∆ or say poop
yeah it does have a ^ at the top
same
Cause if it's a bug it's really weird bug lol
if you ever see reika or so show her that 
Ya okay
Reika seems on but probably busy somewhere else
That seems there floating useless
Bug?
bug or the poop
No idea lol
The poop?
Inner me says poop lol
Inner me says poop lol
same
yas
😂😂ignore my friend honking im sorry but this is how it looks like upclose
It's dream-like ig
Ohh right there is a random flame in sanct so its probs a bug
No i think vaults literally a dream
its next to the big ship tho

It's too small and spirit lights are larger
It's shine makes it seem bigger
spirit light small at hand size]
Spirit lights seems like a light but let's call this poop thing as shiny traingle lol so the traingle seems like an solid object with much shine
Oh it doesnt seem solid to me i could probs fly through it
yeah its passable
Conclusion i can
but compared to the light of spirits we carry around its much bigger
mhm
pooop
i vote poop
You rang?
:0
@uncut pier pls explain ur random flame I don't get it
✅ There's only 1 of it
✅ We often encounter it, but hidden in plain sight
✅ We can "probably" encounter it during a full CR
✅ Not the candles (not our own candle either), plants or darkstones
✅ Not Winged Lights
✅ Not the Easter Eggs in Prairie or Hidden Forest
✅ It’s not in an OOB area
✅ It's not a creature
✅ Not in the Office
✅ It's droppings. Literally. So, don't think too much about it
✅ Its in the World of Sky
❔ It's an intentional thing and has some significance
❔ ✅ "Poop" is just a nickname for it, but also refer no. 10. It's actual "poop" in a way
✅ could see it multiple times a day
15. also a note: the poop was a joke name given to something by a dev early on and it kinda stuck (a nickname but also can be quite literal)
no moon look down
its not far
its under the ship
Ig you pointed wrong thing moon
By ur angle ig you'd never see it
The flame?
Yes ive never seen the midair flame
You see that red circle in the pic?
In there is a little yellow dash
Thats the flame
I got close up its a flame
Like the random sanct flame you see on the beach
Is everyone here blind yall never seen sanct flame?
no
Can u send me the pic of sanct flame would be greatful
im 100% blind
NO
Sorry to say this isn't what i saw
Ik you saw a white light
I saw a white light but i also saw a midair flame
Im talking about different things here
Maybe you'd seen a random flame in ark but that's not what i saw
Ik you saw a white light at the end of a ship
yes
I am talking about
Yes
also, there's a item in the underground forest sticking out of a wall in the enclosed space, it gives light really fast, I think it's just a misplaced asset that never got deleted
Sorry mistaken
that just confuses us lmao moon
That is a flame that looks like sanct flame
also, there's a item in the underground forest sticking out of a wall in the enclosed space, it gives light really fast, I think it's just a misplaced asset that never got deleted
@tender trail it's in sunny forest right inside a room?
I cant get close i have no table
Sorry moon i mistaken lol
yes, sticking out of a wall
Yes
I went online and now an annoying person tp to me
my guess is that it's a remnant from the season of belonging
Its not funny they are the worst
It's shiny yellow ig stuck to wall near entrance gate
How come friends be annoying, moon?
Oml let me tell you about glacer
Not in the lore pls
hmm maybe not in #lore-discussion-spoilers 
most likely
Thought sooo
Guess ginko we need more people to review shiny triangle
It's too late for me gonna sleep good night all
Ive decided im gonna use bad science to explain crab behaviour
Let’s see it!
Oh i havent conducted research yet
Ok, tell us when you’re ready!
Sure
Ok gn
Question uwu, are the light birdies also recycled ?
they could be
in some concepts it was described how creatures of light travel to eden/the holy land to be reborn
Whoa
That’s nice
off topic but someone drew a REALLY good prince interpretation and i feel ... competitive 
also alot of people recognized them in the comments and i'm so happy that alot of people actually pay attention to the lore
Sohfosfoh whereee i wanna seee
I shouldnt be posting someone else's art on here but i can dm it to you if you want
dm it too me too, ri !
can do!
@normal berry I'd like to see it too
oki
Its in insta right?
yuh
I’d also like to see, Ri, if you don’t mind
At this point maybe we should just react as a dm request
I t ‘ s n o t a c o m p e t i t i o n
Ri is this the post you were talking about?
https://www.instagram.com/p/CEhgQ7hJtag/?igshid=2irenaocs4gw
Oof it didnt show up
yeah that's the one
Moff prince

I really liked the use of the moth hair
It implies that we were created in their image
Now to go shower the artist in love, I’ll be right back
I always knew sky kids some type of connection to the prince
Ri is this the post you were talking about?
https://www.instagram.com/p/CEhgQ7hJtag/?igshid=2irenaocs4gw
@inner comet
WHO IS THAT MAJESTIC FELLA
I need that mask tho
p r i n c e c o s m e t i c s
yes please i'm begging
hey! do you guys know where to find out more about the prince? :00
i’m kinda new to sky lore ISNSKSB
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tysm!!
no problem lil moff
nope, he’s just a cute easter egg
well, you’re still welcome to make up your own lore for him
It occurs to me that if Aleph gets sealed away in his own memories (as per last night's theory), that probably means all the bad ones... I really hope the "thousands of goofing off skykids" memories outweighs the "stress of trying not to destroy a kingdom, failing, and being locked in a painful crystal" memories...
Hello I just woke up 
Oreo is the true prince of sky
Or he was the familiar of The prince thus cause he can be summoned

HFBDJEWI why does the moth prince look so cool
You new here?@hushed steeple
Well then
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How did you get the elder names
Check out the doc it might have it
I mean where do you find the bracket in sky
Bracket?
I aspire to be like Megabird
Like how do we name them?
Yeah
Hmm
Well I don't really know honestly myself but it's herbew letters it might have some meaning with it
Where did the Hebrew letters come from?
TGCs big brain mind 
I’m new to the lore community, but I’ve made a solid theory myself
Wow
mind you typing it out? Will be interested to read
Please judge based on your honest opinion
👌 sure
It’s not about the elders or characters, but how the world is created
Where can I find more information about Megabird?
Pins!
If you watch the game into, it tells that “when the stars were united, our light was infinite”, and “when darkness came, the stars fell”. This means that sky is set billions of years in the future
But having a Star doesn’t automatically give you infinite power. Only a way to harness the light, like a Dyson Sphere, gives that power
However, the stars collapsed into white dwarfs and eventually black dwarfs
What do you honestly think of it?
Billions of years is a gargantuan period of time
I think... No, that's too much

Too much?
Yeah, maybe a little too much
@livid valley Where in the pins can I find information on Megabird?
It does conflict with some theories
That would mean civilisation would've been destroyed billions or million years ago. Many of the structures we see there would've been eroded a long time ago
So basically what u saying is that people form "Sky" are actually an advanced civilization that exhausted ther star
I mean not exhausted
But they have so much power they they can survive without a Star
i smell newbies
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have this
Thanks Bricky 
@livid valley Where in the pins can I find information on Megabird?
@hushed steeple try scrolling down and find it
Okie
The only changes in weather are in the home
Well, Sky doesn't follow the rules of our world. Prarie was once called "Day" in Beta, so I guess that explains why?
You think it’s a fantasy world? Oh well
Pretty sure it is a fantasy world
Sky is a fantasy world 
Thanks. (I want to change it tho)
Any world far enough in the future looks like a fantasy world
But my theory is flawed
haha yeah manta flying around the skies in the future
But no theory is canon yet
And game theories are known to be extreme
What IS canon?
Topher, your elder names questions, including the one you are asking about where they come from
Are answered in the doc
Well, this game is known to be vague so that players can interpret what happened
There's a canon lore doc, but it doesnt answer much
And a billion years is enough time for Manta to fly around
There's a canon lore doc in the pins and its confirmed that Mantas are light creatures
Made of light
Born from clouds
If there’s no star, no light
Sky its just its "own world"
Oh well
There's still light, its just darkness came one day and knocked the stars out of the sky
But that part is really vague
Darkness could mean anything
Still could mean anything
True
I think they’re fast growing plants
There's multiple theories about how the stars fell, like the 'Lucifer' theory or something
^^
People think it’s based on Christian mythology?
That might be true, except the afterlife
Well, Journey kind of was.
Plus, its seven stars that fell. There's seven fallen angels
There's one theory I have that it wasn't so much of a "fall" as it was a "left". I like that theory, but I have a problem cause I have yet to reconsile it with my "The only way to 'save' Aleph is to seal him away" theory... hmm... how to smoothin this out...
There is no theory, interpret it how you like
Also, in the JP translation of the Intro, it said the stars made a mistake and were driven from the sky. That's the biggest evidence there was for that theory.
mhm
Honestly, I don't really think that's the case. It said "mistake" not "sin", making me think the stars themselves caused the fall accidently. Perhaps mishandling the issue?
The translater noted those words in the JP intro was worded "They commited a sin", but the word isn't "sin", more like a mistake or wrong choice, making me believe its not a 'Lucifer' situation
👌🏻 make sense Sky surely have nothing much with Christianity
well yes but it could mean something else rather picking it up from the Bible
Yeah, true
Good morning 
Morning Blu Gramps
I feel like a lot of games use eden just as a "cool name"
^^^
If the game really meant it, that would mean eden in game is the source of life in the sky world ( which doesn't seem to be the case)
Back on again
sup
Also, I updated my theory a bit about the Prince
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Wait, did I mention it to you, or..?
My theory is that some event caused the stars to fall and the Prince/King lost all their light and their body and soul was seperated. The soul became the "King" we see in the Sky Kingdom and was given a new body since the original was far away. (idk why they made it so... Big tho)
The King "died" and the soul was left in limbo. This is the Child of Light we meet when we die in Eden.
The Megabird brought the other half, the original body of the Prince, to life to, send the stars home and somehow meet its other half again.
The Winged Lights are the light of the King which manifests as an imprint of the King's soul and memories.
However, I updated a bit of this after reading the Canon Lore doc
I can't give the link of the earlier thing I mentioned about this tho
That perhaps the Prince doesn't merge with us cause we'll end up losing our individuality
Ah I read this one I think
Ohh, okay
but good theory though! 
good
I updated a bit of it cause I realised it doesn't line up with what was said that that the Children of Light are meant to be a new generation
So I don't think we're meant to be, the Prince or become the Prince for that matter
The Megabird may have created us as a seperate entity from the Prince
yes totally
but then why tie us to the crown?
Maybe we're meant to be a newer generation of the Prince. Or it just shows our connection to the Prince, since we were originally the other half of them
I personally think that our Sky kids have parts of Aleph in them but are not him per se. Like a fragment that built up more around it to be more than the sum of its parts? Idk if that makes sense
The main reason I believed the Skid were like, ine half of the Prince and the Prince got split was because of the intro
Wasn't there a big circle thingy that didn't go away when that light seperated from it
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If that’s the case I would guess that Skykids are the more earthly part of Aleph, since we have stone masks and are clearly more connected to the physical realm

Ooh and that would also explain why Sky kids have to learn emotions & how to express them, if they were just originally a shell with no soul
Yeah, thats why I said "body", since bodies are what makes ppl connected to the Physical realm
Sorry, I’m slow and just catching up 😂
Also, I don't think there's a big circly light in the intro, Null
Yeah that one
Yeah, that disappears then the stars fell
I think that circle thingy also appears as a level 2 emote of Levitate
as well as leveling up your wing
That's where the bit "The Prince lost all their light" came from
The fact that we gain those circles when we level up our wing kinda proves this
Every time EVERY TIME I go to the lore chain my brain goes

The circles are a mere representation of the Prince's light
They suddenly disappear and the Elders lose connection and fall. This could be the "darkness" that came, or something happened that made the Prince lose all their light
so you are saying that the prince's light fell prior to the kingdom of sky?
I never considered such perspective
Mainly because contradiction to the concept arts
Could this have anything to do with the diamonds? Like maybe the Elders tried to make a more powerful diamond than the blue one and it stole Aleph’s light?
The diamonds were during civilisation. However, what I'm talking about is right before the fall of the stars
That's before civilisation
mhm
Wait oh yeah * insert face palm here *
I think civilisation existed before the stars fell
Maybe. But I don't think the diamonds existed before the stars fell
diamonds radiate light in a different form
made from "juice"
Okay, going back to where I was before
Since we're meant to be a new generation, born from what was the Prince's body, this could leave us 2 option.
- The Prince could never become one with us again
- The Prince could become one with us, but they would be the one to lose individuality
I guess based from Eden, probably both
when you light a gate contraption in the forest, it will replenish your light albeit very slowly, what else does, well raw candles/fire
The Prince does become one with us when we hug, but when we get to the Rebirth area, we stop being shiny or something. The Prince can probably just act as an energy source.
it has its own choice to take our body right?
posess
Or maybe the Prince does become one with us? I feel like this part is something I'll leave up to interpretation
But if the Prince does merge, they'll just become... Us? Cause we're meant to be a new generation, so the Prince will reincarnate and become a part of us rather than us becoming the Prince
Ehh, I feel like I'm over complicating this, lol
Though when we do Eden after rebirth, we get seperated, unless if rebirth is actually just repeating existence
But that part with repeating existence doesn't make sense cause that means we would have to save the spirits again, which we don't and they're already saved
In just rambling at this point
No it makes sense
Why would you need to ascend the spirits repeatedly
How is it relevant in lore
Unless red candles are significant in lore
Rebirth's definition is to repeat existence, so there's a chance we're just doing the same thing over and over again
However, the spirits still being in the sky when we do rebirth debunks this idea
Yeah
The reason we do it as a game mechanic is for red candles, maybe significant for lore??
In a sense, we get the red candles in exchange for the imprints of the prince
hmmm
Also our heart is made up of a red candle
Oh yeah, we're brought to life by that flame
We're a candle in a dark suit
Lol
teohry
A candle in a dead corpse
eww
Maybe the Prince still stays seperate from us and can only lend us their light or energy, which is what happens when we die in Eden
We do temporarily get our wing power back, ig that would be Aleph’s energy
Yeah
yep
We temporarily become one with the Prince, but only for a while
Enough for us to ascend in Eden
Though, this means Alef has to deal with our stupidity everytime we get reborn and head to Wasteland
Also I noticed that my wedge count will be 7 wedges instead of nine
it always becomes seven when you ascend
In the end, they decide to sacrifice themselves and give all their inner light to one strongest descendant. The last one standing then faces the prince. - concept art caption
Though, this means Alef has to deal with our stupidity everytime we get reborn and head to Wasteland
@thin dirge He be like "Ah Krill Here we go again"
battle time bois
So this means Alef only has like... 7 wedges on their cape?
The last descendant take the prince's hand, offer all the inner lights to him. It releases the prince's spirit and all descendants' spirits. Spirits leave the bodies and start ascending up, flying out of the storm- continuing caption
Alef dosent seem to have a cape
MK voice:*** FINISH THEM***
Ah, this. This is one of the things that lead to the Aleph trapped in the crystal theories
I mean, enough light for seven wedges of a cape
So does that mean the wing buffs don't count? If only 7
MK voice:*** FINISH THEM***
@normal berry petition for skykids and krills for ssb
jkjk
seven is a significant number
Yeah
Honestly... I don't think you get your WL back. I think you just get a small amount of charge to be brought to Orbit with you
Alef has quite some energy
I thought alef gives you his enegry
So you can take it to orbit
Since he don't habe wings
Yes but completed game
Aleph is a perpetual energy machine not capable of satisfying the energy drain of the crystal
hmmm its more like a robe to me
Welp I'm on 1%
Though the Prince does fly with you in the concept art
A terrible fate which can only be ended by someone unplugging whatever is drawing power

In the concept art, he was able to be saved.
the s a d
I mean the devs have made it sound like Sky will be the first game in a series so maybe later down the line we get to save him
Sad neeeds to be upped like 25%
the sad
I mean the devs have made it sound like Sky will be the first game in a series so maybe later down the line we get to save him
Y e s
although sky seems to have a more... optimistic view to the kingdom's situation
Yeah
Oh, the kingdom can probably recover when repopulated
That's not a problem
Even the krill can be recovered.
Aleph though...
not so much
Hmmm... There's a chance that enough people evacuated somewhere else
reika once stated, probably joking, the king "he's moved to mario world now"
mario games have pipes that you travel though
GW
eden has what? pipes
Oh yeah, full of pipes
the p i p e s
I don't like it I don't like it
it's vaguely threatening
Lurking in the pipes shadow
King = p e n n y w i s e
Oh, the kingdom can probably recover when repopulated
@short owl
I know this is prolly about the spirits but it reminded me of my Wholesome Theory (trademark) that the statues we rescue in Eden become lil bb moths. They can’t be children of light because those don’t have capes so yeah there’s that
King is just a pipe version of pennywise
Oh I was thinking SkyKids move in eventually
i like that headcannon
@short owl
I know this is prolly about the spirits but it reminded me of my Wholesome Theory (trademark) that the statues we rescue in Eden become lil bb moths. They can’t be children of light because those don’t have capes so yeah there’s that
Even we don't have capes when we die
i wanna little house in wasteland
pls break pings when quoting
We treat Eden as a sort of fixer upper house and just. Move in. Tell the krills to leave
Sorre
begone k r i l l
Even we don't have capes when we die
@wind arch
The dead peeps have capes, the children of light do not, to clarify
Aww, I just wanna live in Prarie
pipe house :DDD
Okay I gotta go, bye y’all!

Look like fishbones
always wondering how it died 
Anyone can send me the new Lore moff link?
New Lore Moff?
Ok nevermind
I already got the link :v
Thank Ginkomimi for the checklist but for the hunt:
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Golden thingies that are pouring off the boat in shipwreck:
✅ There's only 1 of it
✅ We often encounter it, but hidden in plain sight
✅ We can "probably" encounter it during a full CR
✅ Not the candles (not our own candle either), plants or darkstones
✅ Not Winged Lights
✅ Not the Easter Eggs in Prairie or Hidden Forest
✅ It’s not in an OOB area
✅ It's not a creature
✅ Not in the Office
✅ It's droppings. Literally. So, don't think too much about it
✅ Its in the World of Sky
✅ It's an intentional thing and has some significance
❔ ✅ "Poop" is just a nickname for it, but also refer no. 10. It's actual "poop" in a way
❔ could see it multiple times a dayalso a note: the poop was a joke name given to something by a dev early on and it kinda stuck (a nickname but also can be quite literal)
✅ no moon look down
❔its not far
✅ its under the ship
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gah

Oh
Ok then
Thanks
King constellation is the same as our friend constellation
King=Us Theory CONFIRMED!!!
The only thing that doesn't line up is the mention that Sky kids are a new generation.
Unless... The King was actually meant to be a new generation kind of Elder
Also, it was mentioned that Sky kids are not the same OR different from the Elders, which means we're actually somewhat related to them too
Being derived from Aleph would satisfy this
Yeah
Yeah
Do you guys think this little manta is the memory of that skeleton?
The size and shape match
old forest and realm
@livid valley
I want to be able to use crabs as umbrellas
@livid valley
I want to be able to use crabs as umbrellas
@lofty hill big brain move
Do you guys think this little manta is the memory of that skeleton?
totally
This made it darker 
So the floating skeleton belongs to the big guy?
I still wonder how it's floating
mustve be
I still wonder how it's floating
@lofty hill probably the same thing that help us float
But we are floating because of light I guess
That thing is a skeleton so it's as dead as could be
(Even more than the islands) so it's making me wonder why it didn't fell on something
Plus
There are two skeletons yet one giant memory
What happened to the other
Lol
Also
I find it unfair that I need 120 wl to fly high yet the statues I save at eden fly very high with only 1 😔
Mood
Whale ZOom

Oh and why doesn't this guy interfere earlier
Like I could've used some yeeting power
The one wl you get when you Eden probably isn't a normal wl
It's probably stronger because it's from the source rather than a memory

