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It’s the one from faint emote, here’s a pic for comparison with the same angle and hair as the TGC post
the TGC one looks more angular and thick
for a second i was like "!!?!?!!!?!!"
np, and honestly that would have been a good theory, i'd love to see old masks return like that 😄
I would love to see what lore y’all could come up with when I give u this one sentence: What if Skykids were robots?
Skykids ain't robots, cause we're empty
Also we can go underwater
Without any damage
it could be - but looking at the other masks in the teaser makes me think it's not, considering most look new...?
@severe rune bot all spirits need new masks tho, right?
there is a "mask" that you can unlock which is nothing on your face
Gotta pay 30 hearts Just to take off the mask 

truly unmasking oneself is the hardest thing of all
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Mods? WHERE?! 

What is a mod 👀
So, do Sky Kids have facial features
I say not really, since if you take the mask off, you can’t see a mouth or nose
Technically, no
Taking off the mask completely removes any features including eyes
Which is
Kinda creepy when you think about it
Only features are eye sockets without eyes
Well thing is, that tells us that the dots on the mask aren’t their only sensory organs
And they seem to communicate similar to dolphins or whales, making vocalisations without a mouth.
True
Sky kid biology is kinda sketchy, since sky kids are also technically stone/clay shells for the light to inhabit
ive noticed that sometimes, rarely that when you sit down on a bench your ‘eyes’ blink
so they have eyelids then??
Well those are the mask’s “eyes”
The children themselves don’t have eyes, at least not on their face like us
When I run with chibi mask my kid "blinks" a lot, I think it's just the face glitching through the mask's eyes
But then that would mean the mask in some way connects itself to the entire body to work with it as if it were its natural face
Ah yes, the old game of “lore, gameplay mechanic, or glitch”
Perhaps it’s similar to human eye colour?
also when you use sleepy emote your eyelids close
I don't get that
Eyelids on the mask?
You can see a nose and ears on skykids when you take the mask off in this pic so don’t skykids have facial features?
they have shape but there are no nostrils
That’s not a nose
the ears also don't have any way for sound to enter
That’s just the shape of the jaw
Well a nose bump I guess
No, it kind of is actually
You can see a breathing animation on sky kids
the face could be flat but yes, hint of a nose
It’s not so much flat, but more like smooth
some insects vibrate to heat up their wings after a long time without flying
They breathe, so id say that is a nose
perhaps the skykids are keeping themselves warm
Well that indicates then that Sky kids have a respiratory system

And when skykids call they can hear each other so doesn’t that mean they have ears?
well it's light
fire needs oxygen to burn right? maybe the light inside of them needs to pull in oxygen in order to keep functioning
hmm
That does make sense
and thats sort of why they appear to breathe
Yes, it does
Sky kids dont have mouths because they dont eat, but they clearly have a nose and a breathing animation to prove it
well light usually has a "wasted" energy, which is typically heat
so
there is definitely at least a connection between their light and heat
for sure
So how would them making sound recharge another kid?
It could always be a combination of light and sound?
I mean, they use energy, so maybe just the heat, sound and light energy itself
Well, you see that in game it emits a sort of light shockwave
Could just be a gameplay mechanic, but you see that if you’re within the shockwave, you get recharged. Not necessarily by the sound though, cause you can still hear the calls without getting charged
A friend of mine proposed that the calls are literally made of light, but I don't know how that would work at all
It probably is the energy from the sound/light itself
So that would mean skykids can hear the energy from the shockwave
or sense it in some way
I do like the notion that they’re similar to whales
their bodies also jolt a bit when they call, and deep calls always require a leap, so maybe they have to concentrate and convert their energy into sound from the light inside them
That makes sense
then the "wasted" energy from making sound is the light "shockwave"
Well I think the light that we see is just a visual representation of the sound shockwave
Precisely, or at least that would be my theory
The calls are kind of the sky kids emitting a shockwave of light, and it creates a loud sort of sound that other kids can hear
You can see that its not just sound/light either, as the louder calls knock over crabs, which would indicate strong vibrations
It’s clear though that the calls are echolocation, without a doubt
yes, through the vibrations they send out they are able to feel or "see" where things are
and knock other things over, such as crabs
That would also explain using a call to track your friends and other players
as well as that, the calls allow them to communicate with other creatures of light, like birds, butterflies, fish and jellies
since they call back
I'm not sure why they call back, there may be a reason behind it
Definitely, so they have the echolocation organ of whales (ik it’s the whale type and not the bat type because 1: it’s closed mouth, and 2: no big ears)
So that should mean sky kids can hear?
They are also able to imitate the sounds of other creatures of light or darkness, any thoughts on that?
Echolocation makes sense, since we very clearly see it used to track your friends locations
Oh, mimicry
With the creature calls, its never a perfect replica. Kind of like how people adopt habits or accents of things they like
Yeah
skykids being blind explains why mine jumps off the darkness plants every time im trying to burn them 🙄
Well I don’t think we would be able to feel the shock wave that far away because when we try to flip crabs we would probably use vibrations but when crabs are out of range of the shockwave they don’t flip over
And the "breathing" could be the skykids vibrating to keep warm, explaining why it charges other kids
Looks great, good guess at what it'd look like!
I JUST REALIZED WHAT THE MASKS ARE FOR
The eyes will probably be different though and the face shading I didn't change
Loving this skykid theory.
Go on @gritty aspen
It functions similarly to the melon in toothed cetaceans
The cape could also play a part.
Essentially, they act like the string in a tin can phone, conducting the vibrations outwards
The cape does seem kind of a lifeform in itself
And the mimicry is true in whales and dolphins too, groups will all communicate with similar sound patterns
or at least specially made
And yes, seems semi-sentient
Wait, can you call without your cape?
yes
but
your theory is still valid
when deep calling, skykids extend their arms and spin
Isn’t it like extremely quiet without the cape?
only when you have no charge
I think the cape functions more like wings in a way
If you watch while you charge up, they appear to have a feathery pattern too
The cape doesn’t have just one purpose
but it also looks a bit like cells in an animal
but as I said, the skykid's arms could conduct the vibration outward
That makes a lot of sense too
such as.. striated muscle cells
You can tell that it’s a wing of some sort by how the children flap it to fly
But it also flares out when you call
Maybe they sort of
manipulate it
Sky kids really be going to the public outfit rooms to change the colour of their living wings huh
yep, and when you level up, the skykid spins and throws out their arms, which in turn sends out those sparkles
Well we don’t know if the wings are alive or not
Then why do some spirits have capes too? Do they function similarly, or...?
Keep in mind the children came from the sea
Imagine going to the closet you share with literally everyone to put on a different sentient muscle because you like the colour
well actually, butterfly charmer has a yellow cape, and the memory whisperer has white
which matches the creature they correspond with, if that makes sense
Yep.
Thing is, it seems like there’s two categories of whatever species this is: Normal, and Light
Bird Whisperer clearly went about...what they do differently to those two
Since we can see that only the elders and the children can use light to fly and things
Well, bird whisperer is the only call spirit with hair
and a proper memory sequence that isn't just fragments
Well, yes
Possibly some sort of bird tamer/caretaker/general ornithologist
It’s been confirmed that sky kids, spirits, and elders are all different species
They’re similar, but are all completely different
Hmm
Distantly related species, perhaps
he has several islands to himself and is the very first "whisperer"
maybe the bird whisperer is outcast?
since he seems different
They have common traits that make me think that they’re the same species, just different types, almost like ants
Dr Doolittle
he also has a different body type to all the other prarie spirits
they all have chonk or buff body types
I wouldn’t say too distance though, cause we see quite a few similarities with how they use and interact with light
However, it appears that both spirits and elders can’t fly. We see that in how much boats were utilized for transportation
That means that the one at home is from the prairies
I’m just wondering why that one has no cape as opposed to the Butterfly one
well, the normal manta whisperer also doesn't have a cape
Well, the boats were likely used by the commonfolk
there are no boats in nest, but quite a few in the rest of prarie
The elders don’t seem to have the same control of light as the children
I interpreted the ones that have capes as to have some sort of vocation/hobby that is best to have knowledge on how to fly
I'm starting to believe Bird Whisperer really is an outcast
wait but why does Praying Acolyte of all people -
Idk who these people areeeeee
I can’t wait for the update that will let us see the cutscenes again
So much to analyse
Yeah, and the spirit in the nests doesn’t have a cape either (somewhere flight would be almost essential)
Yes, exactly.
well you can ride manta so the manta whisperer doesn't need one, and memory whisperer has the white cape because it's a memory of alive manta?
the only way he can be close to the sky in nest is to climb, just like he does when you relive his memory
he stops at the top though, he can't fly
he is the only call spirit to have hair, and his hair sticks straight up maybe that's for a reason
Yeah, people are unfamiliar with the spirit names too
On the contrary, why are all the other call ones featureless?
I honestly don’t believe that theres too much of a use for capes for the ancestors. Boats were used for travel because they have no way of utilizing flight like sky kids do (again, they are different species, so it’s likely they wouldn’t have the same ability)
maybe they are the spirits of the actual creature
but why anthropomorphic then
Guys dying in sky menaing losing all wl? Or skykid can only die truly in eden? Idk definition of dying in sky sorry
@thorn portal I think either.
Only in eden
it will force you into a scene where the only way out is to get a winged light
So meaning lights and wl is not the source of life of skykid
unless you die in eden
It might be a lifeforce.
Meaning skykid is immortal in realms except in eden?
Nope, you can die elsewhere
Going capeless requires death, sky kids are only able to live with a minimum of one winged light
Rebirth is what is exclusive to eden
been thinking about the prophecy. i dont think it should be too revealing of serious things about the lore, bc that sounds like a finale, but its too early for a finale at this point. so i doubt whether it reveals anything about “if only they listened” but i rly want it to
I seriously can’t wait to be able to relive spirits without having to wait for moths
You can die, but dying outside of eden wont grant you rebirth
You’ll basically start as a moth again without any wing buffs
So sky kid can die also when losing all wl thru krill toxic water or forest rain?
and being able to see the cutscenes
Yes, sky kids can die via krill, toxic water, and crabs
and
as I was saying, they are only represented like the other spirits because most of the whisperers only are fragments or an event, not real memories, they are represented in the anthropomorphic way because it is canon that light is the life source of all creatures including what spirits were but maybe when they die permanently they always look like spirits? I don't know, but birdman (as I call him) is the only whisperer with an actual memory sequence
But sky kid dying is when its spirit goes back to orbit?
Or we can consider skykid dies when all wl lost?
I don't think so
death is wonky here when ur designed to rebirth
something forces them to live, and take another winged light, unless they warp to another skykid whose light can bring them to life without meaning
There is no absolute, all-consuming death without eden, but you are still brought out of that via rebirth
Sky kids die when all wing light is lost. We can see that their light and flame is what fuels them, an example being how they become featureless and unable to fly when their flame runs out
Dying in eden can be viewed as a sort of heroic death, having accomplished your goal, your purpose, and being granted rebirth as a “reward”
The lights only charge the skykid cape not typically storing it in their body right?
I want to know the life source of sky kid 🤔🤭
I think if we go off believing megan sent the sky kids on our quest, that it’s megan that forces us into taking the wing light when dying outside of eden
They wont allow us to die without fulfilling our role
This what i come up with earlier when watching elders cut scene
Elders need skykid light not just an ordinary light from candles, coz sky kid lights came from goodness of heart came great effort and sacrifice thats the key to activate all elders diamond thing, the vault elder cant stand she/he so weak and face sad too knowing the prophecy when eden gate is open. Vault elder sad face bec he/she knows sky kid gonna die and theres no escape from death in eden
Purpose forces us to live
A skykid's only purpose is to return the light of the fallen
It’s the mission we were sent on, and the only thing that grants us rebirth
We are forced to go on our mission, being revived forcefully if we die outside of eden
Elders lose light or someone or something sip the light from them, they need a light coming from sky kid coming from good heart coz all lights corrupted in realms, if theres a light remaining so why not elders use it to activate this diamond thing, u see how forest elder grab the light from sky kid coz he/she knows thats the key
What even is winged light?
Skykids are the only creatures capable of using it, the krill attack only for the energy and disperse the winged light in doing so
Its been said to be an imprint of light, some people see it as fractured parts of the prince, like a spirits memory fractures
hmm
Now vault elders knows whats going to happened he/she looks so sad giving the diamond to skykid to activate and open eden gate, the prophecy is sky kid needs to sacrifice life for greater good
then, those parts, when you get wing buffs from spirits, why do spirits have parts of the prince?
I mean, what you're saying does make sense @thorn portal
I believe that to be more of a gameplay mechanic
Like how you get candles in eden, it wouldn’t make sense to recycle the people you save into currency
very true, but they thank you, maybe it is a reward
rebirth isn't the reward, but ascended candles are what you are there to gain, so that you can get more winged light and continue to bring even more light back to eden
Or you can interpret it differently, as the prince being a part of the sky kingdom as a whole
A kind prince who became a part of everything after death, a literal “he will live on in our hearts”
indeed, since skykids need light for their diamond at their heart to glow
I see I see
And the diamond is a representation of him everywhere
This vault elder is not regretful or not guilty of anything he/she looks more than hidding something like he/she knows whats going to happen and really sad for that, elders are not the one who will fulfill the prophecy but the sky kid, and sky kid needs sacrife his or herself, i think elders becomes corrupted thats why they lose their light and strength, the prophecy forbids them to do anything but only to rely in what sky kid can do and fulfill
Could be, as you see diamonds almost everywhere
If you look closely at the non seasonal outfits, even the sleeves on them have triangles
Angular shapes like diamonds and triangles are a constant throughout the sky kingdom
I also thought the diamond placement on skykids could have to do with chakras but I'm not sure anymore
Yup
and on the shipwreck, the spires in valley, ruins in wasteland and orbit,
🤦♂️ and the prophecy is that im becoming crazy with this teaser and months from now will lose money coz of adv pass thats the true prophecy 😬🤭✌🏻

and on the shipwreck, the spires in valley, ruins in wasteland and orbit,
the diamond/triangle really is a consistent motif in sky
which is nice, I love triangles haha
was there a shield emote in early beta
im watching videos and they say "oh i lost my shield"
in eden
and a shield icon appears
oh?
as well as several other emotes
maybe there were
Anybody have the concept stone mask pic?
shield emotes
since in the old version you used to lose emotes
Hmm well, does anyone know about that spirit that was in the office during the anniversary celebration? It had a spear and long hair, you could relive it but not finish it
The spirits in office aren’t lore related, they’re self-inserts of the devs
Anybody have the concept stone mask pic?
@pale kestrelmight be because they know great battle will start so they need a much tougher mask 🤭 see some elders have stone mask like elder of isles
Office doesn’t have any lore, its just an easter egg
I assumed so
or is it
VSAUCE MICHEAL HERE
Thanks for confirming though
Yah someone should investigate in office maybe darkness and corruption starts there 😬🤭
in the end it's all because of capitalism
One thing lore related at office it the size compared to our skykid
sky kids are like the size of cats
Skykids are between 2’3 and 3’11
aren't cats about 2 ft long
That's a big cat
That’s a long cat
is my cat enormous
Yes
reminds me of vault elder?
Does anyone have any idea who this is?
Nope, it’s pretty debated here
Sky kid small like humming bird
Maybe it’s like a priest to the Megabird or something
Wow
Hm yeah maybe
Can somone post photo of megabird in sky again pls
Maybe an overpowered guard for the castle.. you know using the power diamond as a weapon
Once I accidentally searched up mother bird instead of Megabird and I actually got some pretty interesting info
Phoenix is immortal but must experience death inorder to rebirth again
hello! i am here to talk about the orrery in citadel and if they mean anything
Why would valley people need an orrery
What is orrery
Oh yeah, I'd be interested in Moon's topic, too! ^^
Ain’t that more appropriate for vault
a clockwork model of the solar system, or of just the sun, earth, and moon
the rings that rotate @mild lark
Ooo
took that off google
I thought that thing is called spinning mapless globe
Ooooh
so like could the orrery in citadel give a clue to how the sky universe works
The great knowledge and try interpreting the stars
hmm
I thought that thing is called spinning mapless globe
@mild lark isn’t it an armillary sphere?
That is a good point!
@hushed steeple I don't know
Coz stars and constellation is how gods write
Rings, you mean? 0.0
@mild lark isn’t it an artillery sphere?
@hushed steeple armillary sphere
Valley is seen as the height of the sky civilization, the most successful and lively time
It would make sense for a successful and thriving civilization to have some then
Aren't they almost biblically accurate angels
maybe they correspond to the number of spirits in valley constellation, or the amount of realms
Just add some eyes and wings and put it on fire and Bam, biblically accurate angels heehoo
But anyway yes why would Valley have an Orrery
Oh heck, good point! I can go check, if we don't have it here somewhere ^^ @hushed steeple
Thanks!
i say they are an orrery because their emote has orrery in name
Aww, you're very welcome!
Yes in valley u can see that great invention is well exposed
Man and I thought valley was just some Olympic nutcase land
Maybe the main larger one represents the ultimate gift and the others scattered represent each spirit? I wouldn't know
hmm
It’s not an orrery, it’s an armillary sphere
Now I realize that valley is at the top of the mountain
It changes the style of temple on valley until eden
The emote is called :aorrery :
Maybe citadel is an observatory
still do to with solar system
Inb4 we find the poop as one of the stickers here named poop
I always imagined the citadel as a theater/observatory
maybe it was spying at megabird
Orrery = mechanical construct of the solar system, spread out
Armillary sphere = measuring tool for the skies and land
But in all realms theres a statue representations of each elders right?
They have the clearest view of Eden from the temple
The shrines at their temples ? yes
What if sky is a island with Eden at its center?
Confirmed .. king is spying at megabird this whole time
Looks like an orrery to me
maybe it is an orrery as its one big structure and not each sphere being its own
Confirmed .. king is spying at megabird this whole time
@mild lark King watching his crush from the other side of the room
I pictured the realms as circles surrounding Eden
And people will not build temple or shrine if god or elders still living among them is it right?
Arriving in Citadel now, I'm gonna count the rings and spheres ^^
As I said, the different parts might represent each realm
Thank you Jelly!!
aaa
You're very welcome~! ❤️ X3
The sphere in the centre is a 1:1 replica of an armillary sphere. Around it are 4 smaller versions with 2 rings each
I counted already
Oops
@primal ginkgo
Who else stocking up on glow spells cause they can't afford lamp?
Armillary spheres tend to have around 8 or 9 rings
Ah well ^^'
wowie bricky is lore master
Bricky .. is that pure motivation or boredom?
Yes
pure sky dedication
I mean I knew the amount of rings but not sure how many total
People before use shrine and statues to summon their gods to talk to them and ask guidance
not a true fan until youve memorised the citadel spheres
Bricky is basically like a sky lore wiki
They know almost every detail there is

I too counted something.. remember the gold thing at shipwreck ? Yeah there is 35 of them
The realms are supposed to represent stages of life so maybe that circle thing is related to that idea
Boats, they are everywhere
Oh wait
I was thinking about chakras earlier, and there are 7 chakras and including eden, 7 realms
It’s important to figure out if it’s a Coperinican (sun centred) armillary sphere or if it’s Ptolemaic (earth centred) as it would tell us more about the solar system and astronomy of sky
Oooooh @hushed steeple
why are valley butterfly blue not pink
lighting
There are butterflies in valley?
It could be in reference to the blue & red teams/butterflies in beta, Moon
This what brick said
oh cool
same reason why the sun becomes blue I think
Oh its 3am here imma go sleep before sadako appear, its nice having convo with you guys! Good night!
See you! 
same reason why the sun becomes blue I think
@hushed steeple
blue sun where
Kinda wish the realms were big circles instead and of lines
I think the armillary sphere in the centre of citadel is Coperinican, it might be the centre of the solar system while the 4 other spheres are other planets
Is the amount of rings around the center sphere relevant or is it always the same number when it comes to armillary spheres?
Have you not seen the blue sun?
no
can i look from flying race oob
Some rings have circles on them, planets?
its pretty yellow there
I'm not sure, I've never been there
if it's yellow the sun will look slightly different
like in the underground part of secret forest it's a magenta sun
It isn't lore-related I think
just lighting effects
This has been discussed before, Lizard
yes but you can see the sun through the clouds
aw :(( haha i thought so
it's not meant to be seen but it can be

I wouldn't trick you lmao
also yes the skybox is just altered to fit the color scheme!
It’s still cool
See, as I said
It’s concept art?
you can see a green tinted moon in wasteland and in vault theres a blue sun/and/or/moon
in valley ive been high enough to see a yellow sun
ok ok ok but why do sky kids have closed eyes
this seems like game mechs
s n e e p
blue? its been yellow for me! lol
Sky kids are shy?
blue one in the flying race, it's a slightly greeny blue, cause the race is super red

Do Skykids have closed eyes? 0.0 I've never seen one without a mask, I think, aside from when we have no light ^^'
yeah they do
yes
Ooooh!
its pretty
huh! lemme find my yellow sun pics
I'll see if I have one of the blue sun
Good to know, thanks a ton!
When is it possible to see them with closed eyes? ^^
maskless mask
i have maskless face
We have a massless cosmetic
one second
Oh, oops XD I thought that one was a mask, as well, but now that you mention it, good point
jelly are you moth
Thank you!
We have no mouth or nose
AH Nope! ^^ Just didn't realise we had a proper maskless one X3
high up in the flying valley race
wha
Maskless
Ooooh wow, and the shape, too!
Lemme find my blue sun pics
a mods gonna come and wipe this convo
Oh right, thank you! ❤️ @hushed steeple True, with the light on it, you can see closed eyes 0.0
ohhhh that glitch
thats a visual bug no?
It is, as I said, but it is the sun being seen
not a sun?
thats an android bug i think, i cant say
No it is the sun, it is just showing through the clouds because of the lighting effects
the sun in that case would be the opposite colour, as the intended colour
but skybox sun is yellow, assumingly if its projected through the clouds the color is just altered yeah
yup
that blue sun is a layering issue, it shifts the colours unnaturally
it's odd, I see a majenta/red circle in the secret forest through the clouds too
sky beans mod comment was a prophecy just you watch
That’s a bug, Soup
Yup, but it is the sun
the forest sun is probably blue then!
I never said it was anything to do with lore, sorry it's so off-topic ;w;
aa
I'll get back to my Sky fanart now 
see you 

Aww, see ya! ❤️ Have fun~!
I will, thanks
i have question
Oh, ask away!
so like why does bricky know so much about armillary spheres
i read the wikipedia article
wikepedia is pretty handy
Ah, alrighty! Awesome, it's definitely coming in handy here! X3
About the armillary sphere in Citadel...
I wonder, would it be possible to determine which one of the spheres/smaller ring formations our planet (The one Sky takes part on) is represented by, based on the distance between the visible sun and our location?
I hope that makes sense ^^
Armillary spheres don’t represent planets
If Sky even takes place on one planet, what with the different realms
oh
Oh!
they represent measurements along the night sky for navigation
oh i thought people used stuff like polaris since it dont move
The four little ring formations around the main one, do they do that, too, then? 0.0
Like, the smaller "spheres" of rings
AH No worries! ^^ You've already helped a lot, thank you very much!
I'll go do that~!
so you know how elders are stars that fell out the sky
yes
i dont think this was in the intro doc but did elders and spirits exist at the same point in time
hm i see
Does anyone have a picture of the king/prince?
Concept or intro?
Concept
Here u go
Thanks!
Np
theres More
Okay, so I am now incredibly fascinated by citadel's armillary sphere, and think I'll spend quite a while trying to figure it out XD
Wow, the king is massive!
very
Bricky, you've counted the rings around the central citadel armillary sphere, right? ^^
Does it have the same amount as a typical armillary sphere?
yep, I’ll grab my count
Awesome, that'd be very kind of you!
8 rings
8 rings, gotcha! Thank you!
Aye
Ooooh, this is helpful! Thanks!
👌 np
Okay, I think I'm gonna keep working on this tomorrow XD
It's 1:35 AM, I think I should hop off to bed~
Thanks for the great time tonight, y'all! Have a lovely day/night!
Gn jelly
these masks look really like the designer’s masks in concept art
As the canon doc says, all masks in sky are made of stone
Darkstone?
or normal stone?
this is the
- checks watch *
6 or 7th time someone said those masks are like the concept masks
lol Ikr
the background looks quite similar to prairie cave
who knows what the pattern in cave means?
It looks like isle temple
again the cave
try searching and find the answer with the search bar
bruh... talking about hacks and hackers is against the rules @torpid kelp
oh oop sorry

sorrrrrryyy i
hmmmmm
Please don’t discuss hacked content as it’s the rules. Could you delete your comment mentioning that?
very well aware but dont talk about it here
it doesn't matter whether the video is unlisted or not. We do not allow sharing of any hacked content here
Yup sorry thank you!
It's disrespectful to other community members, harms content creators, misleads players, and harms TGC. It may not have been your intent to do this, but it ends up being the result
thoughts about this poster?
Concept art
pretty cool
looks like an orbit concept
I was thinking that for this season, maybe an interesting twist on the spirits is that they’re not aligned with the king like we first thought, but maybe they’re actually leading the opposition against him
That might explain why they’re facing away instead of towards us
one of the theories within the two shields theory is that the wasteland elder was originally for the king then turned against the king
Yeah, my current working theory is that the prophecy is the cause of that
prophecy?
Beware the prophecy...
I think prophecy predicted that the king would use his power and that a calamity would occur, causing the power diamond in eden to ‘splode
how do you guys have working theories about the prophecy when it has not been released yet
And therefore the spirits who knew about the prophecy tried to oppose him
did i miss something
guesswork !
No, I’m just predicting what the prophecy will be
Piecing it in with what we know of sky lore already
Season of Prophecy
For me it’s just a case of Occam’s razor, finding what seems to be the most simple and elegant solution with all the known facts
right now, it's just all speculation
if ktjn posted beware the prophecy without the image teaser would it have the same effect? food for thought
Yes, I think it would
but there is no evidence to base upon
we'll have more info that might confirm or deny the speculations when whatever the image/caption is referring to is released
The only solid lore information we have from the reveal is that there is a prophecy
The simple fact of there being a prophecy is enough to speculate on
the image shows more
okay
Beware the Prophecy
If only they had listened...
five spirits plus one hidden
there could be a connection, as many have said here
two hidden 
Indeed I think there is
two?
Yes, I definitely think there’s a connection, wren
Yeah, the 6th spirit and the quest giver
that is if there will be a 6th spirit
which is the next season guide?
Lambdaw , there isn’t an answer for everything
The lore was made vague so we can make up our own story and our own lore without being told if we are right or wrong, there isn’t much of a concrete story in the first place so I don’t see what’s wrong with making theories even tho the new season isn’t out yet 
I'm actually kind of interested in seeing if they'll continue the 6 spirit season. The 6 spirits used to correspond to the realms. One was hidden in each realm, and the questgiver stood at Home
yeah, i think so
now that TGC is trying different things, there's technically no reason to stick with 6 spirits other than tradition
Yeah, considering they’re having spirits in the same area most of the time
#lore-discussion-spoilers message that’s my current working theory, I didn’t get a whole lot of feedback on it when I posted it the other day since there was a lot of hype, anybody have thoughts on it?
Considering the 12–14 cosmetics we might get from the 5 spirits we see, maybe there won’t be a 6th spirit
could be possible
Heyyy I read it when the hype was here
I thought it was interesting 
that is the issue i had since i ever joined lore discussions, no theories are invalid, yet no theories require evidence. there is minimal objectivity, even then it is up for interpretations, when everything becomes relative there is no point anymore.
That’s the fun part
But yes
we technically have evidence. We just might not be applying it "properly"
Bricky has summed it up
so it’ll introduce a new place in a random realm, all of the constellation ancestors are here, just like the ark/sanc
You can say that megabird has a southern accent and no one can say you’re wrong
Lore is fun
the main point is to have fun, first and foremost
Plus the game was mainly towards the gaming experience and the fun of being with friends
Not much on the story
as a note, saying that megabird has a southern accent implies the existence of the American South in Sky
discuss
in order for megabird to have a southern accent, there would have to be an origin for it
How can we discuss such a blatent fact?
Accents don’t develop because of the physical location of their users
Accents can come about even if their earthling point of origin is not present, i’m just using « southern » for familiarity
@sly kestrel but to that, our lore brains said no
They develop due to the linguistics and speech styles in certain areas
yeah, I'm just saying that if it's called a southern accent, it technically implies the existence of the south
what else could i call it ?
megan was born in Los Angeles
like in fiction, can you call it a French braid if there's no France
Oh yeah ofc
So this implies america exists in sky.
At that point the term has lost its attachment to its location, it’s become an adjective
This implies that the office is all the country's and states.
Office is technically in socal

office is just Easter egg
i think it is anyways
yes

||office is a great party place for skykids||
problem is when everything is undecidable or can not be proven or disproven, there is many stories. i like to believe you all here have a favored headcannon, thus there is one favored narrative, but all are equal in doubt, so lore becomes a battle of ideology rather than deciphering the truth/story of the game.
They didn’t want that
the issue is that there really isn't any specific storyline
it was never meant to decipher the truth/story
How tall do you estimate descendants to be, ||based loosely off the office||?
isnt that lore?
the devs left it purposely open for interpretation
it was meant to give us threads and let us tie them together !
the backstory of the game
Can we discuss the missing facepalm emote?
we can create the story for ourselves
Lambdaw this chat was meant to discuss our crazy imaginations and theories, not uncover a hidden story tgc created
where's the skykid height chart
No need for spoilers
Skykids relative to office is canon, we’re between 2’3 and 3’11
Thought so
around a metre
hère you are, wren
we can create the story for ourselves
so there is no backstory then
Idk if it’s disappointing for you but I can tell you this
Journey has a concrete story
just leave more free space for theory
thanks
i feel sadden by this
There’s a base story yes, of course
But our job is to fill in the gaps of the base story with our imagination
they’re tiny I want to cuddle
maybe the final season reward is the prince mask, which make your fire never end or corrupted.
the devs have given us many bits and pieces that we can use to theorize
tiny tiny
Presumably spirits are something like average height
The facepalm emote has been missing since the early days and hasn't come back for 2 years.
tbh, TGC probably took it out because it can be seen as rude by other players
but there is angry emote
facepalm?
moth doing literally anything? facepalm emote
there's already issues with players being rude to others
omg
In my PERSONAL opinion I prolly would’ve enjoyed it if they stuck to making one single concrete story for us to figure out
BUT
I understand why they chose not to do it and I don’t have a problem with it at all 
It looked like the quest giver.
which one?
https://youtu.be/NVGydNM0XMI here's a video on the spirit.
teenage a n g s t
puberty psychology
why do we discuss lore here then if it is not for collaboration because each presentation is equally valid. i thought accepting a headcanon as ones own meant that the viewer sees the author's interpretation as a likely representation of the grand narrative. but what makes such interpretation preferred or likely from the viewer's perspective when all of which said is undecidable, i think it is ironic that the audience of a orchestra in silence realizes that themselves is the conductor
am i going too deep?
a lot of kids actually love the vagueness
They love the idea of making their story and letting the imagination run wild without being told their thoughts are wrong
Not everyone loves lore like us, and if it does seem pointless to you to do random theorizing that “iSNT cANoN” well.....u don’t rlly have to b here
It’s jus a fun channel
The facepalm spirit look's like the quest giver but with less hair.
Personally I think that it’s good for theories to be subject to some level of scrutiny
In the end the theory will either end up being accepted as not really valid, or it will lead to changes forming a stronger theory
That’s what the canon is for
discuss the lore, explore the mysteries, then meet the memories
But, there’s just enough and less of canon that lots of varying theories have merit
what happened to jay's messages, got flagged by the bot?
No I erased them
no he just deleted it
he does that a lot
bot is behind the screen
What if
I am the bot 🤔
Why did the facepalm spirit get removed?
Wren addressed that earlier
Also do you think it will come back?
to summarize, it can be rude to others
HAHAHAAA I REMEMBER THAT EMOTE
I jus now watched that vid posted earlier
I thought u guys were talking about purple cape spirit 
bricky, i have never seen you present a theory
He has one
you are always busy helping new members
what ? i’ve presented theories all the time
kudos on that
Has a ton
can i see
I believe you have the mind control megan one
that one’s on null
O
and i have a branch of it, the Lucifer Theory
i never heard of that
Lucifer Theory
#lore-discussion-spoilers message
@pastel brook what’s your theory 😂
how do i always miss theories
chat go nyoom
we never really stick on one topic either
things naturally lead to other ideas
Or we derail.
i have a general idea of a timeline in my theories too
king’s wrong choice made the all kingdom fell
although i’m looking forward to prophecy messing up everything
so just pray for more details next season can bring us
you can find em again by using the search bar 
I hope the next season brings us the concept art masks.
Ehh it’s a bit hard to use that thing
U have to know what ur searching for
And there’s tons
And I mean TONS
Of theories
read em all
alright i got an idea for making searching theories easier
sanc brings us little evidence of lore theory
Sort of
I also wish for some of the removed content to make a comeback.
anyone want to hear it?
Sanct is in a sense a show of the different manta subspecies
Some of it was removed bc of technical limitation too
Sad 😔
Sanct is in a sense a show of the different manta subspecies
@lyric isle manta queeeeeen haha
The FUN CAPE PATTERNS though
Would that imply the existence of cosmic manta subspecies?
Go ahead lambdaw
there's a few theories compiled in one of the docs in the pins here
this channel needs more 📍texts
so basically we abuse the search filters to only find theories. so like if anyone post a full theory instead of just discussion snippets, them would just append the theory with a line of salt, then you can just search in : #lore-discussion-spoilers <salt> to find all the full theories
Whoever build valley.. they just split this mountain half for that tiny building.. impressive
the caveat for this method though is abuse of the salt
A lot of salt
We have to agree on a salt line though, something like "[A theory about sky]"
i come back to salt
You might need to add smthg like {salt} so it doesnt mix with other convos that include salt ?
does not work because discord use fuzzy search
I think it will be difficult to standardize
and it won't apply retroactively, which is where most of the theories are from
it was worth a try
Are there possible cosmic manta subspecies?
it's a good idea! I'm just not sure how it would actually work
as a lot of people come here and slap theories and leave
Well, there’s the big multi-winged one and little baby multi-winged versions, then the two winged versions
it could only work if
- a mod pins the format
- discord implements exact matching
- people actually read the pins before presenting their theory
i dont know which is the most likely to happen if not impossible
i myself forget the pins 99% of the time
you can work around the issue of people coming and use a non-standard format by reformatting their post with credits
They look like walkways
I’ve always thought that area is welfare housing
Where is that?
Sliding race
Valley slide race
Thanks
castles in race?
castles ? no, they’re residential areas
Considering valley is the sort of “downtown” of the sky kingdom, it would make sense to have housing of sorts
It’s the capital !
Im too distracted by how much i admire valley and its architecture to properly participate in theories right now, this is tragic
Gush about it, it’s relevant!

the buildings you see far away in flying race has more pillar-like ( tops ? )
/flying race's architecture seem to be more on the "Wealthy" side of things
/i mean look at the billionaires if you have money you're gonna flex it
/flying race's architecture seem to be more on the "Wealthy" side of things
@gilded fossil
even the buildings have these gold stuff lmaoo
/rich people man
/i remember one of the tomcept arts having the flying houses be the rich people's, while houses on the ground are for the working class
rich people tingz 🙄😋
Why do people talk about salt all of sudden?
/wait are you in the game broke whale? how bout checking the citadel if the buildings there has gold tops
Why do people talk about salt all of sudden?
@mild lark /hello smiley :VV
/you reading the older messages?
Yes
/wait are you in the game broke whale? how bout checking the citadel if the buildings there has gold tops
@gilded fossil
not in the game rn , i'll check , brb
Where did they get the gold tho
from the ground?
I know but where
a place in the ground?
Where did they get the gold tho
@mild lark /good question smiley
/i think if they have light miners they would probably have gold miners
Forest seems to be very industrial focused, so perhaps it had something to do with there
My brain say It's from golden Wasteland
But I think It's not
what if it was isle?
You need a furnace.. a heavy smelter and casting plate
i’m joking isle is pretty empty nothing but boats
Forest seems to have a mining industry, could be extracted there and processed in GW
/maybe they made the gold? i mean they made butterflies
Gold industry is basically environment destroying industry
/like philosiphers
alchemists, you mean ?
so wastelands?
when you look at the spirit with the crying emote in forest, it’s most likely it was a mining industry
alchemists, you mean ?
/ooops yea
oh yeah that makes sense
when you look at the spirit with the crying emote in forest, it’s most likely it was a mining industry
@tawdry pawn /with terrible working conditions i mean they died and there were no insurances
in the concepts, forest has been mining-centric for a while development-wise
Gold industry is basically environment destroying industry
Yup, and we see it happening
Progressing through forest you see it deteriorating more and becoming more industrial, and wasteland is a barren battlefield full of pipes and rubble
i mean there could of been we dont know
@tawdry pawn /
with terrible working conditions i mean they died and there were no insurances
@gilded fossil yeah when you take a deep look into the story of the crying spirit it’s actually a little sad
Thank god they can create diamond or else a bigger mine will be constructed
so the world of sky really was just dying?
Yep Forest indeed mining centered, blushing prospector too trying to find light deposits, got stuck in a cave lightless and was helped by whale whisperer wd an umbrella
so the world of sky really was just dying?
@winter jacinth /it already died when we came
what bout the pirairy?
Prairie spirits we can see them collecting lights, the one in the quests and store them in jars
Prairie is almost like a butterfly breeding ground
and also, workshops for boats
sorry i’m new to the lore of sky
/wait are you in the game broke whale? how bout checking the citadel if the buildings there has gold tops
@gilded fossil
yup , it has gold tops , three buildings are broken and doesn't have one though
The power diamonds all seem to have been manufactured in forest
Prairie and isle seem to be the most “innocent” of all the places
/and bells!
And big temple
They got trapped in a cave and while trying to mine their way out, two miners were crushed. The other one was killed by plants and the crying spirit was left to slowly perish. The stones in the middle of the ground (I believe that’s where they are correct me if i’m wrong) are probably graves.
Yes, it
messes me up
yup , it has gold tops , three buildings are broken and doesn't have one though
@topaz girder /that's still a lot of gold
Why does it have to be him every time though
The industrial age started with forest, valley was the peak of the kingdom, and wasteland seems to be the downfall of it, a wasteland (ha ha funny) destroyed by war and darkness
Greed of wanting to go back to the skies
Then what’s the Vault?
Keeper of knowledge
/perserving memories
Possibly some monastery too
wait what does gold have to do with anything why would they want it
maybe the spirits are
wait what does gold have to do with anything why would they want sky
@winter jacinth /classs division
The vault gets progressively more dream-like, it seems disconnected from the rest of the kingdom in a way
Protected maybe, as it is the vault of knowledge. It could have been barred from the outside commotion
I seem like gold aren't as important as irl
Yeah, I mean if gold emitted light, then umm
People go to war because of gold.. but in sky people go to war possibly because of energy
Wax is for skykid tbh
we don’t know what they used as currency
Game mechs
personally, since they had metal, i’d imagine they used coins like we do
/oooooh maybe they had coins
Yeah, it's a theory
a game theo-
Dude if game theory covered sky though-
/nah
Sky would receive lots of attention if game theory covered it
/servers will explode ngl
The game would absolutely explode with popularity
It’d be infested with moths
/
servers will explode ngl
@gilded fossil i mean it’s true
id love to have more moths i adore guiding them
/imagine the fandom with the ships and the fanfiction tho
whaaaat game therory would never
Oh no
/anyway
now i’m happy the community is small enough to not have that
Cosmetics
Please, two of my favourite games were done dirty with utter nonsense from MatPat
I have seen community become toxic because it was getting popular.. honestly it very disappointing
/there seems to be classs divisions as well
but gladly those theories have been shut up about and only mocked by people now
aaaaaaaaanyway
But I like his food theory tho
Back on topic
Lore time
But how does the Valley earn from people trades
/did sky have chocolate
there doesn’t seem to be tropical forests, they might not have
/ooops sorry for the s bomb
/who ever is modding
@cyan bobcat sky kingdom probably have trading from other territory as well
What is Isle? I feel like it’s when people first came to the sky kingdom but i’m not completely sure
/isle feels like those sea communities
/small, didnt have currency
/they just fish and pray
@mild lark I guess they do, I'm curious to Valley, cause it seems like a place where they could earn alot for the experiments..
There is clearly pilgrimage to it.
Why, though? What significance might it have had?
Ohh I have a theory about pilgrimages in sky actually !
The way the game is presented, each area works as a stage in the rise of civilization, isle being the first settlement
It has the least amount of spirits and is overall a pretty abandoned beach area
So Prairie is when civilization started rising , and Forest is when people started mining and stuff, while Valley is the peak of civilization
Hmm, They catch light in prairie/butterfly breeding grounds, store them in jars and send them away by boats
@lethal stump tell
So, the way my theory goes, when the elders fell with the flame, they went on a journey to reach the eden mountain. At the time, this trek took a while since the ancestors’ civilizations hadn’t developed to the point of roads and such.
Due to the significance of this journey from isle to eden (it’s considered the founding of the kingdom), every ten years, groups of people would take the same journey on more or less the same route, starting at isle and walking all the way to the summit of eden. considering the godlike worship of the elders, this was usually done by monks and priests rather than your average everyday ancestor
this is just a fun headcanon of mine tho
Vault spirits
i love it
Thats a cool headcanon, very epic

Nicee
/imagine people just be like on the road and: yooooo you comin to eden too bro???

/im reading into perservation methods
/are the memories in vault sour?
that implies they can rot
what would happen if they rot 😎
then we have lost what was left for us to find
/im guessing the vault would smell like a wine cellar
/how would vault smell really
/How would prarie smell, come to think of it
prairie smell like grass
like allergies
/it would smell like moths
nooo thats isle
/grassy plants
/wait what;s a petrichor
the smell of rain ( usually after summer i think )
/ah.
the smell that comes after rain
I'm sorry out of topic but
I'm pretty this flyway is supposed to be walkway covered in cloud that was used by the spirit...
/what if you can smell the waste that's killing u also?
/what if you can smell the waste that's killing u also?
@gilded fossil
wasteland smells like oil probs
why are we on this topic again ?
Have you guys ever been in a desert?
Have you guys ever been in a desert?
@mild lark
nop😎
I'm sorry out of topic but
I'm pretty this flyway is supposed to be walkway covered in cloud that was used by the spirit...
@mild lark /well, question, was citadel suppose to be accessible to everyone?
Wha
Maybe?
There is flying race there too so spectators need a way to go there
/what if the wealthy just gate-keeping everyone and destroy the stairs
Keep in mind that alot of walkway seem to be covered by the cloud
Might be the effect of the storm
/or game mech
It must be from the storm All ruins
Look.. there is stair here .. why do they need stair if they can fly? That right they can't
i just realized valley might used to be like prairie aswell
GW must be the second most affected after Eden since Vault is a high storey realm haha that is protected
High attitude realm..
😳
/yooo i just thought of what if they used the fly boats
yep


