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Wait, so what about Eden then? There's the theory that when we die, we actually get saved by other sky kids, like how we kept using our winged light to save the other statues. When we die, we become one of those statues and another sky kid saves us
we shatter when we die
we don’t become a statue
im not sure where the fallen came from. they don’t seem to be skids like us
Yeah, but the cutscene of a statue breaking out always happens even if we don't save a single statue.
when we go to orbit without a single statue saved, there’s a singular fallen there
idk why
just thought that’d be pertinent to the convo
Or maybe they just add it there and not considering the possibility of us trying the route of not saving anyone. Cause in Eden, we were always meant to save at least one.
Idk
Maybe they are just stuck and didnt break out unlike our sky kid
^
when we go to orbit without a single statue saved, there’s a singular fallen there
ye i took a vid of that
Though the cutscene had a blue fire thing on them already, allowing them to break out. Someone must've left it there.
I feel as if there is some sort of criteria of having to break out of the statue form thing but idk what that could be
Oh
At least that's what I remember seeing. Not sure if it's a different case if you dont save anyone
Lol what if the loop glitch is just some other sky kid not lighting your dead one up and then finally someone does and youre free
And all the statues are just replaying having to walk in their. Minds idk
I actually went to check a video of someone not saving anyone and the cutscene actually doesn't happen. Unless if it's at a later update that the scene did happen.
Or if I'm watching at the wrong part
you dont get the cutscene where you see them fly out, the cutscene immediately goes to dark room
then of course orbit and ascension
then you only see one col in the end of orbit cutscene
Wait, what if that's the Prince? O.o
unrelated, but if sky world has an ecology of light and dark, that seems to imply light and dark exist in tandem. then in terms of making ocs/villain ocs, does corruption then still make sense?
Perhaps in a way?
i was also thinking about being corrupted involuntarily, like changed evil
i thought the king is more ... made evil by his deeds
mb theres a malevolent kind of darkness..?
The king became greedy when there was so much light. When we get something in abundance, we crave for it more. The King wanted more light, thus allowed the darkness in his heart, and thus evil.
Maybe I'm just seeing it in a metaphorical sense rather than literal sense
I gtg too. Bye!
they share the name
Ohh
What is CoL?
child of light
Lol, thanks!
Hi
Hi
What is the main transportation of sky?
Is it the boat?
It was likely that they use flying boat as a main transportation..
Other than that..
But there is a conflicting information to this idea..
There are gap that is like not to big for using a boat but not to small where you can just jump.
I believe they have something else ..
I do think they fly
That just a theory
A game theo-
What about the use of help of creatures? Like mantas
Im the old beta the isle elder give us a boat to go to prairie
my friend and i in eden. she pointed out that the pillars are actually headless king statues
Queen of hearts was around
I feel like it must be really awkward that both the valley elders have the same name
Because they don’t have last names
So there’s no way to tell which one sombody is talking to
I’ve always wondered why the Vault elder’s face is wounded but I didn’t have any idea as to why they were like that 🤔🤔
when it comes to the valley elders, most people split their name into two
I call onigiri
Sam and spike
Ekh
I refer to them by hair shape
i call them kakashi and dora
I call them "the spikey haired one" and "no spikey hhair"
wait whats the elders names????
Isle: Daleth (ד)
Prairie: Ayin (ע)
Forest: Teth (ט)
Valley: Samekh (ס)
Wasteland: Tsadi (צ)
Vault: Lamed (ל)
Prince/Not Corrupt King: Alef (א)
Corrupt King: Resh (ר)
PLEASE NOTE: These names have appeared in concept art and are often used when referring to the elders. They are no longer canon, they are fanon.
ooh
If we are the children of the light does that make the light our parent or are we orphans
:(
why aint we living with the light
I think we are made out of light
Imagine megabird mask and megabird cape
wait who's megabird>
Ok no we have too many white and yellow capes
Hello new Lore Moff!
Read this short document to get started! Once you’ve read this, check out pins for more information. 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit
read this, yos
ah yes the lore starter kit
Yos
for Yos
its for yos, who is new here
or any lore moff
Oh I thought you just said yes
however if you are new as well feel free to read it
i am lore moth lol
i never really though about lore but this is INTERESTING 
wait where did anyone find all the dev concept art and all????
hey brick, if you are open to suggestions on the lore moth document, may i recommend a section on darkstone
it’s in the pins, yos
darkstone is the red thingies in eden right?
nope
That's interesting
oof
actually funny thing someone said
no
ye
they were always twins
since the valley elder is samekh
they called one sam and the other ekh
which is funny
Do those names have meanings
thats bricky
darkstone is the red thingies in eden right?
not sure, but darkstone is pretty prominent in the concepts and may or may not still exist in game
xD
also i made up a theoretical material called lightstone
cuz one of em gets a pretty normal-sounding name (by our standards) and the other gets... EKH
Their names are hebrew letters, you can see their meanings here
Woah
Dalet(h): a door, a path, a way of life, movement (into or out of)
Ayin: the eye, look, appearance, to see, understand, experience, to be seen, a fountain
Tet(h): a snake, to surround, to twist, a twisting or a coiling
Samech/Samekh: a prop, to support, prop, aid, assist, a slow twisting or turning aside (like a propped up plant)
Tsadhe/Tsadeh/Tsadi: a fish hook, to pull toward, something inescapable, desire, trouble, a harvest, righteous, to hunt
Lamed(h): a staff, cattle goad, rod, to control, prod, urge forward, go toward or forward, teach, learn, tongue
Alef/Aleph: ox, bull, gentle, tame, the leader, strength, what is first, Adonai, thousand, teach
Resh/Reysh: a head, a person, what is the most highest, most important, chief
transcript incase it’s blurry
the names are hebrew letters so basically A B C D in a way xD
no, not ABCD
yeah?
D, ‘, T, S, Ts, L, ‘

I didn't know we could dive in that deep into the game
i mean yeah i know that
i just wanted to make it easier saying that basically Daleth is D or so
Oh :(
like its an alphabet not a word
and your probably asking "but ri, what would incline you to make such a guess on a hypothetical mineral that isn't even seen in concept art?"
it’s a letter
I wonder what the prince and the king look like
The king must be really huge
he is
Oh
WAIT
yes
In Yiddish, Ayin (well, called Ayen) is E
the prince looks kids cute
well theres a spirit called "Tearful Light Miner" and last i checked only stone/mineral/gems can be "mined" so bam, there you have it, Lightstone
theyre all from different periods in development
anyways back to what everyone else is talking about
which was?
king stuff
hmmmmmmm
he’s an Elder
the king is gone, possibly incarnated as us
it’s implied he used to be alive like the elders too
but now he’s gone
we don’t know where
but we know he’s in game
Season of Corruption would be extremely interesting
''the eden elder isnt around to be saved anymore"
(we assume the eden elder is the king/prince)
does anyone know if a season is possible in eden

idk but i hope it would be heavy metal themed 
does eden count as a separate level or is it part of the other 6
it is a realm like the others
theres 7 realms
and 7 elders, counting the eden elder
arguable the most important realm
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
i can't wait to possibly wear more elder masks
i'm sure there are a TON of ideas and works in progress
they have 2 years worth of content planned 
Rainforest went through a lot of changes haha
i doubt that they will neglect their past ideas and concepts
the power diamonds we burn to open gates reminds me of the prince 
But the first image with that sassy pose be mhnnn fine
the devs mentioned they have planned extensions to Valley and Wasteland
I almost forgot about my Prince redesign, i got frustrated from an art block and took a brake awhile back. I should start working on it again
valley extensions....... oh boy
Valley looked to have a very defined idea from the start ah
Wasteland extensions 
i hope they will add a way to connect the two races
so we wont have to go home and go all the way back to the next race
it would be difficult for moths to understand
what to do
after finishing one race
But vault is just getting more and more bent every time in those concepts hahahaha
because valley feels incompleted without going through both races
Yess
this isn’t exactly lore related...
oof
Really look at valley they got their final hair down in 2nd draft
oh honey, that’s not the second draft
there are farrrrrr more drafts of the valley elders that came before that
you can find them in the pins
The other elders still look way off from how they are now haha but valley 👌👌👌
Lamed goes through the most change
Vault?
Yep
Eyyy yee
But I'm still wondering how they came from "umbrella holding" to "blacksmith" for rainforest hahah
Piarie seems to have their role more defined when they gave them the key bunch
Say, this may be a noob question, but what is that white-hot thing in the trick door temple under the sunny forest, any lore on that? I read most of the pins but didn't see anything
A glowy mooshroom owO
glowshroom
That's-a spicey mushroom! Thanks for answers 
thats a question for #questions-and-help
Why am I thinking about botw link cooking it in a pot now sksksk
Its strange how teth does Smith work but we don't see too much of metal or just complex structures in the forest
She’s not working on metal
Pay attention to the diamond u see her making
Do u see glowy blue diamonds in the sky world? Do you see how they are used? Maybe look for them
U might find something 🔫
I notice a thing. Looking at the fourth level tummy rub emote, your kid's center of gravity is waaaaay behind what is supported.
This suggests 1 of two things: Either kids can defy gravity a bit (they probably can), or their feet are really heavy (funny)
Maybe their clay body structure just works differently than a normal human made of bones and tissues.
... Are you suggesting our heads are really light
you only have yourself in the very end, you are all alone in the dark and you cheer yourself up and tell yourself that it's fine now. you reunite with yourself and keep moving forward to the light.
LOL
Aight time for part two here fellas where do we start
i think that's what the part there means
but yeah crystal it's not supposed to be a realistic or logical thing
tru
The shiny boi may be the literal light at the end of the tunnel 
i love shiny boi
I also agree with the glowy boi at the end of eden being yourself, as it changes to match the player's height
rlly?
I believe so
n i c e
i think the shiny boi in the end is supposed to represent our lonely selves after dying
Dont we all need a warm hug after a long day? I mean our skykid literally just d i e d so
move forward even when there is only darkness in sight
Wait we don't need to spoiler tag here right?
It probably has some meaning behind it, both lore and mataphorical-wise
maybe its just you reflecting on urself and realizing what u've done. then u hug urself and yeehaw you fly around and your spirit is brough back to the realms
no need for spoiler tags here!
okay what is the castle at end of one part of your ascent?
also im assuming all elders are also dead? they have tombstones so...
the theory is that is where the king/ eden elder resided
I guess its all up to us. I think that what makes it beautiful, you know? To always find that meaning yourself
how come sky kids are forever k i d s
it's all the separated broken kingdoms being built back together @tribal badger
Why do geysers not hurt us
@sinful anvil I think because they are Heat and skids are heat/light being
elders are not dead, nor are they alive
ohhhhhhhh
brick has joined the battle * super smash bros theme plays*
Like clouds... Are ... Well not heat directly, but the results of heat
how come sky kids are forever k i d s
@crisp belfry we kindda d i e before growing so yeh
clouds reflect light, which is my theory as to why it charges us
as for geysers...
I'll- have to do some research
wait how come the spirits arent alive because if we can be reborn why not any of them
why are there elders for all six levels but no elder for eden
It l i f t s our spirits.
Get it? get it? imabadpersonhelp
LOL
The elder of eden is gone and 'cant be saved'
there is an eden elder
:(
we believe that the eden elder is the king or prince
i want to save the eden elder
they cannot be saved
they're gone
personally, I think we are the eden elder
Maybe the elder was the last krill you've ever encountered before entering the point of no return
lOL
My point of view is the flame of that candle is the soul of skykid?
You can see that skykid kinda wear a necklace.. I'm not sure because someone told me this.. but that necklace hold a light. But when you bring out your candle.. it gone.
Maybe because the light goes to the candle..
@mild lark like these? I think so too, but I cannot zoom it better during rain or else
"krills are now elders"
wait what if the narrator in the beginning of the sky story is the eden elder
I don't think a necklace but rather part of our bodies
maybe its the main light source or smth
he said one thing near the end of the story that i did not understand
It's where we hold all those candles 
"if you only had listened" or something he said
We just a b s o r b those candles in there
omg our bodies are like storage compartments for candles so we can whip out candles out of nowhere
But the he a r ts
But darkness came, and the stars fell...
Together, the fallen stars made a new home in the clouds.
If only they had listened...
A long time has passed. Now, I call to you.
Wake up, child. Bring our lost stars home.```
plot twist the eden elder disappeared because they didn't listen to him
good question
we do not know
Eden elder can't handle our bags so he packed his and left
are you new, crystal ?
i think it's the king
no
alright
he literally summoned us all
maybe he broke the fourth wall and left the game
lo
Maybe he's ktjn
:0
Nvm REIKA'S THE KING
did reika really just reveal her true identity
so anyways, i got a theory to why the geysers give us light. there is actually alot of algae that lives in geysers irl. maybe there is some sort of "light algae" species that lives in the geysers in sanctuary, and we are absorbing their light than the water itself
:000
she is a king
so anyways, i got a theory to why the geysers give us light. there is actually alot of algae that lives in geysers irl. maybe there is some sort of "light algae" species that lives in the geysers in sanctuary, and we are absorbing the light from that rather than the water itself
@normal berry an algae that gives light... Interesting :00
i did not expect sky to be that deep
i think maybe its cuz of how fast it shoots us up maybe it creates heat as well- i mean the clouds are kinda questionable but
anyways, peace, i gotta get back to a cr
bye <3
The geyser also doesn't give light when in a peaceful state so it only gives so when bursting
how could the spirits be wiped out all at once-
mass destruction?-
i think maybe its cuz of how fast it shoots us up maybe it creates heat as well- i mean the clouds are kinda questionable but
clouds reflect alot of sunlight, the tiny ice particles in them act as a sort of prism. this light that is reflected may be charging us when we touch the clouds
i like how sky isnt rlly meant to be deep and just has questionable things but fans and players WILL become unlicensed detectives and philosophers like w o w XD were awesome
Aight so i searched up an algae that gives light when bursting and this came up; it's called Bioluminescent dinoflagellates, it basically gives off light when being moved though i may need to read a bit more into this edit: it's actually a certain type of planktons woops
omg we are becoming scientists
most algae absorbs light as energy, too
It could be the skykid's body, or it could be the light itself, but since it doesn't follow down all the way there's not really any way to know
@delicate coral there could be the Orbit's WL (it almost goes unnoticed, but walk into Orbit reincarnation door and you will eventually hear its sound when "you're going to reincarnate" message appears) so maybe that one is Our soul, granted from Megan....
But that leaves the question why we do have a solid body in Orbit... If our earthly one was destroyed.. Are we granted with a new one or was that too a gifted from the start?
My headcannon is that our body is a physical manifestation, i hate using this reference but like the gems in su
like a projection/hologram but you can touch stuff
So the candle is basically the gem, then?
darkness
Like i would scientifically study the world of sky lmao
same
Like how do the children work
Why the dark water hurts
Why some krebb are dark or no
wait some crabs are light?
no
i thought they were all dark
So the candle is basically the gem, then?
that is a bit tricky, since the candle can be removed safely, but you could be correct. my theory for that is the candle is a small portion of our light utilized for interacting with things
And what triggers the krills to attack you
Some crabs are jus not hostile, and they don’t have the black darkness flakes like the rest
rlly? :o
Yah
What do you think ody
What’s ur opinion on all of that
there are crabs in the outer islands of sanctuary that don't have dark flakes and are passive
But for the ones that don’t
Maybe the little flames build into a candle or candles
imo krills attack anything that moves
ooh hollow knight
maybe it used to be a light creature and then darkness swallowed them all. so now they just will attack when they see a creature of light
Exactly like hollow knight
and you might be thinking "but we have never seen a krill attack anything other than skykids and mantas"
so it just became the opposite of what it used to be lol
reminds me of Dark Souls
It’s like the opposite of hollow knight
tru but i dont think they attack crabs
i wonder why crabs hide from krill spotlights, though
they hide from krills? wait-
If a krill attacks a crab, the crab will flip
they seem to retract into themselves and remain still when a krill light passes over them
wait krills can attack crabs? :o
krill shalth cronch crab
I suspect there is indeed a hivemind and the crabs know what to do because they got told 
what if krills can attack eac other and have a lil battle lol
Yeah that’s why i said they have attack patterns
Discord keeps on erasing my messenged everytime i sent them???
Cos they would attack each other
If your sending an emote with a curse word it will delete it
would they rlly tho?
Yeah they would
Or as i keep saying, hivemind
Everything is connected to eden
Like everything is connected to the radiance in hollow knight
krill are sorta mindless. they just got around and attacc and nothing else lol
THE RED FIRE DUST THING THAT HELECOPTERS THROW TO OUT OUT A FIRE IN A FOREST
wait wha-
krill are sorta mindless. they just got around and attacc and nothing else lol
@crisp belfry the enemies in hollow knight are mindless creatures controlled by the radiance...
Cos it senses an insult the bot
Ohhh that word
hmm i wonder if krills are being by smth
they DO seem like minless robots
but its a game so
hmm i wonder if krills are being by smth
Eden perhaps
Maybe since it’s called eye of eden
Manta's morphed into krills when they are succumbed in darkness for too long? 🤔
It’s the eye that judges the worthy to enter eden
idk they seem vry different
mantas look like mantas and krill look like black shrimp with a color changing flashlight
XD
who is EDEN and why is his eye so important
XD
I think krills are just weapons that got taken over by this hivemind disease
oof
Poor krill :(
imo i think krill are natural creatures
I believe it was stated somewhere that all creatures in sky are natural
The phrase "..and then the darkness took over" kindda meant that there were no krills before?
or they migrated
but the world of sky is supposed to be peaceful. well, WAS supposed to be peaceful. i think they're just NOT natural
devs stated that sky has a rich ecology of light and dark, leading me to think that they’re just apex predators with a bad rap
The closest logical reason for why krills hate light, for me, is that we are too bright and it's kindda like checking your phone on 3 am on full brightness so i gotta snuff that away
i can imagine the devs either being like "lol there lore kids have no idea what doing, there is no real answer to sky, its a hoax" or being like "nonono THATS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO WHAT IT ACTUALLY IS but the second point was sorta close omg"
there is a story, but they’ve left it intentionally vague for us to have fun
but they don’t tend to be that obvious when they talk to us
lol
Or maybe they're making us say alot about the lore so they'll be like "yes YES that's a good point. Exactly as planned, yes."
same
what if WE give them ideas for the story to role with lol
and just go with it
dun Dun DUNNNN
"nice. .... lets confirm that in the story now lol"
I forgot
We can all agree on one thing
we must follow the light we are moffs we must follow-
XD
But have you noticed that the light that comes out of edens top
Is the one we go through
When we get reborn
I mean moths are just a fan name, we are not canonically called moths, coincidence I think
big brain time
we were all born to die
What do you mean by the storm is harmless, in what sense?
true
i think the krill red light and the red rocks in eden might be connected but idk
The garden
Boi i am big braining so hard oml i dont think i can handle it
I have too little ram memory
Processor is melting
Make it more big brain to the point where it'll just pop
hold on im bringing a freezer to cool it down
imma get the keys and my mask
I've been trying to say that the reason why eden is such a harmful place for us especially those red glowing rocks is because the particlesi dont know molecules just go with me here for a sec in the air are actually the same as those red dusty thingies they use to put out a forest fire. i cant use the actual word for it because it kindda has a nono word so :/
I've been trying to say that the reason why eden is such a harmful place for us especially those red glowing rocks is because the particles
i dont know molecules just go with me here for a secin the air are actually the same as those red dusty thingies they use to put out a forest fire.i cant use the actual word for it because it kindda has a nono word so :/
@prime lake omg stahp too much info
I need to process it
Big brain time folks
it has a nono word?
Lemme just dm you the word XD
this is why when naming something we need officials to approve-
some animal names are terribly wrong
F
Hm?
I never gave a second thought about Children lighting the doors where there were supposed to go Dark Stones (Diamonds). So, just to confirm or understand something; Dark Stones compress the power of light (of a star, maybe?) and we Children are an actual source of a star and that's why we would so easily open a door with our candle/light instead of a diamond?
huh
darkstones, as far as we know, have some sort of ability to conduct or absorb light
why is it even like locked in the first place tho? its not like the children of dark exist or smth for them to have to open a door using light- it basically has like keyholes when everyone has the key. why do they have secured doors
think in mind of ancestors, they might not have light so readily available to open doors like we can
when it attacked the manta it passed next to me with the honk and my wedges came back
im wondering if its tru
@tender dune maybe it's not the Krill to recharge us directly... Maybe it's sort of spill the poor manta's light.. (sorry for the picture) as blood squeezed all around
Someone told me I should post this here so uh,,
I've been thinking that the skykids used to be some of the people living in the realms. Like some of the spirits got reborn as skykids, others didnt make it but chose to tay at the realms they died in. And the reason why some of the skykids enjoy a specific realm is because that was the place they used to live in before the kingdoms fell into darkness

||where’s home elder and orbit elder|| 
Wait a second can somebody explain darkstones to me? Do they produce light? Absorb it? Produce darkness?
Absorb/conduct
Orbit elder probably doesn't need us. Home elder... well... Home isn't a civilization. Just a camp. No elders.
@lethal stump light or darkness?
light
But they’re called DARKstones.
Oh okay
Spoilers here are fine right 
Why are the elders using them? Why do they need darkness things?
no need for spoiler marks
it’s like energy. it helps them power things (doors, boats, etc)
i tend to equate the darkstones with the industrial revolution
seems to be the case
What's that last candle we see at the really, really end of the credits? Or it's just... a normal candle... lol
Wait, there is a candle at the end of credits?
Bricky, what is the ETA on theory doc/wiki
Soon™️
When It’s Ready™️
The Future™️
At Some Point™️
I hope it drops before hl3
stupid overly thoughtless headcanon
(I call the valley twins Saul and Sapira)
Saul is the older twin because his hair is first
theres a lot to comb through, and we’re all on different schedules with different time zones
we’ll go at our pace, and it’ll be ready when it’s done
Ok
why does rain hurt us
Up to interpretation, my view is that it damages us physically because of its composition
i guess
At first I thought rain hurt simply because it's water and put out our flame, but we can swim in uncorrupted water just fine so it must be something else. Maybe there's something about the act of falling that causes it to harm us? Idk
Ooh that makes more sense...
i can see that
but then wouldn't the whole forest be damaged instead of only certain areas tho?
And I suppose we don't really encounter a lot of uncorrupted water after Forest... Valley is mostly ice and snow (and whatever's going on with the ice rink... I don't think that's really water though.)
not really
they have no leaves
Like there's no leaves?? And not much vegetation aside from the Darkness and some grass...
It could be more like the rain is making the Forest sick and not killing it entirely
And Wasteland is an example of what happens when there's so much corrupted water that life is basically killed off entirely
i really like the gray areas tho
true
tbh tho the name threw me off
i mean i get it
Tho I see the krills come out of the corrupted water in WL so maybe they were created in WL and did not destroy it like I thought
but i thought it was going to be nicer LOl
Maybe the Krill were born of whatever is poisoning the water in Wasteland
i would like a concept art book for this game tho
Or need it to survive
🔥
I think there's some concept art floating around
The acid rain is weird
I found myself think that it was krill tears one day
But that’s very weird to think that uwu
It is tho
It would be a big krill with a lots of tears tho
I wonder what made them sad
so whats your idea

I have a lot of them


Imma start with one

So y’all know that Wasteland looks damaged (and that it may or may not be because of the krills we don’t know uwu)
I thought of myself, what if there’s other skykids, but dark sky kid (it’s an idea that everyone have tho-
)
And that their realm was destroyed
By an unknown ennemy
I feel like that enemy is krills
we do know that the darkness destroyed quite everything, and if there were dark skykids, it would be cause of that
So I had this idea of a lone Dark Star (dark sky child) who do a little bit like Skykid in their realm but they are alone and they are trying to know what happen, and when they do, they try to get back to the Sky kids about an incoming threat
oh no i think my message got ate
ate
the main enemy of the game is darkness, krills are only a creation of it
In my mind krill are not our ennemy
I feel like the Elder spirits are the one at fault are that they all try to make us forgive them but we do not know what they have done
I always thought that GW was a place that the old civilization tried to ocuppate cause of boats and spirits. And krills was the big problem of that place and that civilization never prospered there cause they had to constantly fight and hide.
(Mama forest is not feeling sorry tho)
if its a dark sky kid wouldn't it make sense for them to be a ally
I feel like the Elder spirits are the one at fault are that they all try to make us forgive them but we do not know what they have done
@weary galleon i feel like there was an elder who messed up big time

@lofty rose That’s a nice thing
Ya, I feel like they all messed up big, and that they are trying to fix it by us,
i feel like there was an elder who messed up big time
ever heard of The King ?
Either that or an elder started to mess around with darkness and other elders didn't stop them
i'll have to be honest, i think more wholesome theories
@lethal stump The what- 👁👄👁
oh you innocent moffs...
I-
I feel like the Elder spirits are the one at fault are that they all try to make us forgive them but we do not know what they have done
@weary galleon what if there were dark elders
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I never really read a lot about the lore lol

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@lethal stump I think i am going to be educated
Imma do it later tho uwu
@sick blade What if there was a war between Dark Elder and Elder spirit
at the start of the first ever cinematic
they say they didn't care about the warning about the darkness coming, and that's why darkness took everything.
but all the elders fighted back, or else no one of them would be on such a weak state as when we found them, specially forest and wasteland with weapons
True true
concept corrupt skykids do be kinda crispy doe 👁️ 👄 👁️
All I know about the lore is that the spirits and elders we see are not the same species as the children of light
The same species ?
Elders, Ancestors, and Skykids are all different species
then spirits?
what if there were dark elders. there was a war long ago and wl was the battle ground. almost everyone was killed but the light elders won. they killed thousands of the dark children but they never told anyone. so now there treated like gods @weary galleon
Also
Spirits = Ancestors
we dont know what this "corrupt descendant" was gonna be used for
but a dark child lived... @weary galleon
Elders are not alive or ded. They are complicated
So are the statues we saved also stars Bricky?
i think that « corrupt descendant » was a concept for how we were going to look before we died
yeah maybe
The statues we save, The Fallen, are a bit tricky
they aren’t elders
they aren’t skids
they aren’t ancestors
@lethal stump :0
no need to ping, please
elders are elders, they're special
sprits on the other hand, they... died
Sorry uwu
The statues we save, The Fallen, are a bit tricky
@lethal stump the thing about them is that when we loose all wl we look exactly like them
That confuses me
please do not ping me, i’m right here
Oh sorry
True, but we shatter when we die, and we do not turn into stars in the sky like they do
the statues are skykids tho
If we shatter, does that mean that we are not the same skykid every time or we are butterflies ? (I know that caterpillars turn into goo when they turn into butterflies)
not necessarily Big brain time activate-
we have the same soul every time, it seems
Ya
What about that kid we hug?
and we retain our cosmetics
different shell
But what if we are the soul/the light inside the skykid and that we are needed for the sky kid to live ?
I’m hoping you have read the introduction doc as i explain the glowy lad
The Eden statues are akykids that lost all of there wings of light, and then the person that hugs you is a sky kid that gave you a wing as part of the eden quest
What if all sky kid are dark child but they turn into light when we fusion with them
I have not but please continue
We could assume them to be stars, but really young, since they're referred to Children of the Light (Well, the winged lights are called "Imprints of the Children of Light" and we give them to the statues)
They're Children of the Light, but we're made to be vessels for their imprints, so we look like them
i believe the shiny skykid there is actually you, because we try our best to struggle and not die so close to the end, and your strong force of will (depicted on the shyny kid) brings you back to life and you go to orbit
Yeah
the game is called Sky: Chlidren of Light
So, there’s a few theories:
- The glowy lad is the king/prince, since many people believe we are the reincarnation of him
- the glowy lad is a wl given to us (assuming you think we become a statue when we die)
- the glowy lad is just a representation of the light part of ourselves. both halves are relatively useless alone, but when they fuse they become us !
I’m hoping you have read the introduction doc as i explain the glowy lad
I read part of it. Plz continue
what king, prince?
Maybe those star kids and Elders were born from the light, but Elders are like, the ultimate beings born from light
That’s some nice theories
For some reason my messages are being send minutes after I send them ;-;
internet, lalia
the first makes sense
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well they all do tbh
Maybe they were dark sky kid but there was a process of elimination to find the reincarnation of the king (but it seems that maybe we all are ?)
I have a very poetic view of the game as you go straight to the point 
...hold on, the elders have names?!
Personally, I think there is only one canonical skid. i think multiplayer is game mechs
Yes ?
Plot twist-
The King isn't evil in this new version of the game-
Their names are no longer canon, but yes they used to have names
Brick, when you think about it, that’s seems about right
It really makes sense because the intro refers to only one person.
True true
I have a personal headcanon about the "Prince", it isn't really anything that has evidence, it's just a headcanon
imma go eat but please continue to talk I’ll read all when I come back
although "Now, I call to you" sounds alot better than "Now, I call to you and all those other guys too"
The "Prince" is actually just a little Star kid that the King actually favored more than the others, which is why that kid was called "Prince"
Oh i forgot for a moment that you can be used in plural
my personal opinion is that there are, in fact, many skykids, though we were incarnated from one entity (prince?)
Bilingual problems 
I had a headcanon that Star kids are actually souls that never reincarnated
I thought that too
Other than concept art.. there is little to no evidence that prince exist in the game... Am I right?
Things i think support the one skid theory:
- only one skid can be in an elder cutscene, only one can give them the light
- even when you’re with friends in stormlock, it doesn’t matter how many Fallen they save, it matters how many you save
- one skid in opening
yeah, although you can argue we see references to him
The starts look like they are waiting or contemplating something
i think that we see references to the prince in prairie
the small bells with a 4 pointed star head reminds me of the prince
chat ded
oop
im grabbing pictures rq
Ooo
I honestly thought that was king..
Now that I think of it.. king reference usually is wide
The star above us when the fire thing runs out is a four pointed star
Mhm
interesting how prince imagery seems to slowly turn to king imagery as the realms progress prairie - eden
Trust me the more you look in detail to the game.. the more king or prince reference you will see
we see him go from prince, child (prairie) to dead (eden)
y'know I was thinking about how there is only one skid in cutscene/ referring to you. notice how in irl forms of propaganda they seem to directly call out you for example "I want you to join the army" or "only you can stop forest fires"
p r o p a g a n d a
opening cutscene is megan propaganda 
Wait, could the stages of life represent the King's life?!
that’s what i’m thinking, Butterfly
and since we « grow » as the realms go on, i think it’s meant to be us, the king, going through our past and having to make up for our mistakes
(grow mentally)
opening cutscene is megan propaganda
How? :S
wish we got the prince hat doe
Dang imagine a kid eventually becoming a king... What a dream..
it’s in reference to Ri’s comment
depending on your headcanons...not exactly the dream, smiley 
Who could be the narrator though? That's the part that perplexes me
imagine being a celestial entity destroyed by your own ambition and hubris
i think it’s megabird
Yeah, but how could the Megabird "warn" the Elders of something? I did thought it may be the Megabird but I'm uncertain
I think its king's final wishes aka "change da world, my final message, goodb ye"
Ooh
more like " haha diamond go bonk "
Does that light thing coming out of eden has a explanation? If it has, can someone explain it or is it too long and I should just read that document?
The light coming from eden is a beam emitted by the Eden diamond
Could be it's original purpose or an effect of the diamond getting fractured
I think it was unstable power diamond
Though I like the theory the King... Became one with the Diamond
Just like how irl.. nuclear meltdown could last for thousands of years
The light coming from eden is a beam emitted by the Eden diamond
Oh i just remembered that i already read that part @.@
I actually read that document a while ago but never really talked in this channel about anything
The initial meltdown would only last a while though.
crackpot theory of mind ... The diamond beam is to shoot megabird
It's the fallout that stays for thousands of years
I'm.... Still uncertain if the thing at the end is the Megabird. Doesn't even look like a bird... It looks more like Sky's version of a galaxy
looks like a nebula: w h e r e s t a r s a r e b o r n
Yeah, that!
The design could possibly change from the concept art
It's the most bird-ish version of the megabird
The concepts are just a few strings on a ball and a huge milk spill
I think it called megabird because there is lot of bird inside it? Lol
Yeah, I agree
I never really understood the whole megabird thing. I know there are supposed images of it but what is the role of the megabird?
I think it called megabird because there is lot of bird inside it? Lol
@mild lark could be
kinda god i think
The office murals depict the cycle of rebirth
which concept are you talking about
The Megabird
@lethal stump the one with the ascension and the yellow one
because many iterations of Megan have many roles
I'm skeptical about the Megabird being the thing at the end though... Unless if it's confirmed
i know in the scrapped timeline, she was somewhat involved with life in sky, and seemed sentient
Idk why but my keyboard insisted me to type Megan more then megabird..
but in other concepts she’s just.....there
Does the Megabird still exists in the current story? I feel like it doesn't...
Maybe she is so important that she just need to be there.. like how king is?
Doesn't look like a bird. It looks like a nebula where stars are born
I gtg. Need to go to school
Yeah, in the concepts the megabird IS or symbolizes the cycle of rebirth
Every light creature goes to eden and the megabird beacon, gets reborn in orbit and goes back down to the surface
It almost like the cycle of hot air and cool air..
this is how i see her at the end—

How does the megabird sound? does she chirp or does she honk?
But for me... Realistically
I don't think a creature that live in space need wing... Because megabird is almost like a god.. it doesn't need to have basic part like wing head and tail.
Living creature have that part because it was crucial to their survival
people personify their gods all the time
maybe she doesn’t need them, but as a personification, she has them
Megabird's chirp is maybe why the reason why eden exploded..
In the concepts the megabird's "wings" look like trails coming out behind her.
Especially this 
Yeah .. look more like a strain of hair with a dot
Spaghetti god
whoever looked at this and said « that’s a bird » needs glasses 
tom zhao
tom zhao needs glasses
Well maybe it a large group of bird? That is the way I see it
Anyone have a picture of the office portal mural?
Hmm is that fame or flame
this is how i see her at the end—
The first time I saw this I thought it really looked like a lira.
Megabird grants flame to Prince and Creatures
I can see she's just a big flock of birds.
I cannot unsee 👁️ 👄 👁️
I can see she's just a big flock of birds.
Could be the representation of the King's open wings
Does this imply the megabird is directly related to the light creatures?
megan probably made them to some extent
Hey look.. close up it look like there is some kind of branch at the wing
Or is megan the original light creature? And the creatures we see in-game are fragments/pieces of her
Megan is a collective of light creatures in orbit resulting in a very high concentration of light, allowing sentience to emerge and the creation of the elders 👁️ 👄 👁️
And then elders start sucking megabird's fragments to make factory so megabird just go WOOOSH on sky kingdom..
Just had a thought: if there's some sort of balance between darkness and light, what if the King was trying to push things far into the light for a 'golden age' or something but it backfired and plunged the world into darkness, triggering the Storm, and now our starkids are bringing light to the starkids that got caught up in it and are still there in an attempt to bring things back to a balance through the cycle of rebirth.
That’s an interesting thought
megabird looks like a cape
It does :0
I just thought about Lamed, in her cutscene, well she seems hesitant to gave us the artificial/memory octahedron, almost if she does not want us to know some part of the truth because of guilt or some other implication within the truth
What if the constellation symbol on that homespace rock and the eden barrier is supposed to be the megabird? 
Hmm
Lamed is also the only elder who shares the flame we bestow, by giving back and commending us with knowledge of the kingdom.
dang, looking through this channel issa mind blowing experience
it wild
megabird?? prince?? i am in awe 
have you read the lore moff doc ?
Bricky, you and null are always talking about Lamed, what is your interpretation or opinion on this?
If the spirits worshipped the flame and light what would their reaction be to their home being set on fire ¿
That’s a good question
Wow, this is the place for me! I’ve been writing tidbits of lore down for a while, trying to make one plausible thing. This is a treasure trove.
I have stuff. People probablysaid everything already
yessss
the dude, from the Eden picture the vault elders shows us, turned to darkness, “darkness blinds so I cast them away” from the cutscene. the other elders feel respo nsible for stuff, so they woke us. they want us to go to Eden, to get light back to him, but never can we reach him.
Idk, that’s the most cohesive thing I have figured out so far
It took almost three months and my best friend from Germany to do it 😅
me, playing sky for more than three months : how-
And a lot of staring at pictures and screenshots
me, playing sky for more than three months : how-
@weary galleon I play for almost 1 and a half years, only when I got my friend involved, did lore become a topic, it’s no fun if you have no one to discuss it with
:0
True true
I have almost no one to talk about sky to so I’m here now
Now it’s almost like my problem I never existed
That’s nice, transatlantic communication can be hard and connection often bad, so this is great for me too
AVATAR a manifestation of a deity or released soul in bodily form on earth; an incarnate divine teacher.
AVATAR a manifestation of a deity or released soul in bodily form on earth; an incarnate divine teacher.
@mossy trellis ????
have you read the lore moff doc ?
@lethal stump
I have not! where can i find it?
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@tribal pecan Definition of avatar, and my thinking is that the skykids are avatars of some higher entitie
O, ok 😊
sky: the last child of light
i do think that us as skids follow the sort of avatar scenario of being reincarnates but not really being like
their previous selves
Maybe spirits are actually holagrams of the memory jars in vaults and you gain part of the memorys to allow oyu to use that emote
Idk, I don’t usually go that large scale... I think sky kids are two parts. The body of stone and the soul of light. Body: you turn into a statue when you die in Eden. Soul: when you give a wing light to the statues, they turn back to full on sky kids.
TGC refers to winged lights as IMPRINTS OF CHILDREN OF LIGHT so you could be on to somthing @tribal pecan
That is interesting... I need to write that somewhere
That makes a lot of sense, especially when we give back the light/soul to the statue/body.
Makes me wonder about the locations we find the winged lights in - were these important places to those sky kids? Is that as far as they could get to call for help? Since they cannot physically interact with the world any longer, are they guiding us to Eden as a call for help? Or so we can finish what they started?
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updated version
oh thanks
I have a crypstologist freind....
the lanterns almost look like stalk prices
Almost looks like modified pigpen cipher
what’s that ?
/pigpen sounds like a farming tool
PIGPEN cipher
ooo
Hewo?
Ooops two 3 letter words that are both abbreviation!
/namsaj it actually looks like a pig pen how do i read it
Its isnt but simillar each of the grids has distinct pattern eaither having 1 or 2 parts missing to create a shape, the letter inside the square is the letter that that symbol means. SO full square with dot is N
also use @ not / to ping
WHo is salute saltuting to?
Also the pray spirit has a head plate what does it say
Brick has a transcription of the vault runes and glyphs
Well, bricky.
he was trying to ping me, i think
Oh
maybe it's not the Krill to recharge us directly... Maybe it's sort of spill the poor manta's light.. (sorry for the picture) as blood squeezed all around
@boreal nebula thing is the manta already finished honking and its light didnt reach me when i was recharging near the lamp. but when the krill attacked his honk was near me and it replenished my wings.
also use @ not / to ping
@mossy trellis /ah since i saw you still in the chat i didnt want to ping hahah, and the / is something i do
/to be fair i feel the glyphs looks like gibberish
ehe
that’s eden mountain with a big light behind it
Eden mountain?
I’ve think it’s related to every realm...I mean like in that mountains of clouds,we are journeying through every realm....toward the Eden
The first elder also points towards it, like “go that way kid”
Ahh yeah
This Megabird?
Can someone explain that to me though, I read the conversation about it, but I don’t understand
/mega bird
/she's there
/she's important
/but we have absolute who, what, why is she
I got that much, you also call her Megan for some reason
/mega bird's bit long lol
Megan is a nickname for megabird
not canon or anything
just a name we made up after a typo on my part :p
Oh ok so Megan is like an abbreviation?
yeah i guess
O ok
Are there also abbreviation-names for the elders? I always write weird stuff in my info collection documents, but is there like an “official” term thingy? 😅
/we just call
/wasteland/forest/isle/etc elder,
/tho i call valley the valley twins
Isle: Daleth (ד)
Prairie: Ayin (ע)
Forest: Teth (ט)
Valley: Samekh (ס)
Wasteland: Tsadi (צ)
Vault: Lamed (ל)
Prince/Not Corrupt King: Alef (א)
Corrupt King: Resh (ר)
PLEASE NOTE: These names have appeared in concept art and are often used when referring to the elders. They are no longer canon, they are fanon.
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Ok, then who is lamed? I thought she was vault elder... oh wait, that makes sense
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Half of it, then mom made me come down to eat and I couldn’t find it again 😅
Sorry, I now read the other stuff, and what my friend said now makes a lot more sense...
Potentially the eye of Megan
Hey guys what's the topic of the day, also I noticed a fragment of some kind in the endless storm area in final level of Eden, it was a small rock that needed to be lit, any ideas
It's a lantern.
The ones that look like pots
Pretty sure someone lit it up with an instant recharge spell once
Hey guys what's the topic of the day, also I noticed a fragment of some kind in the endless storm area in final level of Eden, it was a small rock that needed to be lit, any ideas
@wispy canopy do you have pictures of this rock?
No, pretty hard to take one in the middle of an eternal storm losing winged lights slowly
ah well
you said it needed to be lit?
was it some how pot-shaped? because i know there is one of those pot shaped light things you can light up in the endless rock rain area
I just recently watched a video explaining Journey, and I noticed how some theories about Sky seems similar to the lore/backstory behind Journey
Mainly the theory where the Elders tried to take Megan's place so Megan rained hell on them or something-
Woah...
Silence

Imma end this silence
It's been theorised that we're the reincarnation of the King/Prince, but what if we're not?
What if it's the Winged Lights that are the fragments of the King?
Or his "imprints"?
We only share a few resemblances to the Prince in the Concept art, but it's mainly the cape that we share in common with
But we only get the cape when we get Winged Lights
The person we meet in the ending is merely an imprint of ourselves
Aight, I’m dumb and it’s my first time checking the channel, who’s the Prince?
Same with the King-
since brick isnt here may i do the honors?
I suppose so?
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Aight ty lord and savior Ri eats krill
no problem, now go, go lore

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