They used to worship the stars and somehow give gifts or offerings. Then the first stars fell.
#lore-discussion-spoilers
thin dirge
I don't think the main reason why the stars fell is just because of darkness.... They fell to check out what's going in below with the humans. Well, that's my interpretation at least. The timing seems a bit too perfect be some coincidence.
That may be what the narrator meant. "If only they had listened", the stars wanted to go to Earth, maybe the Elders were against it but they went there anyway.
Plus, the constellations disappeared first in the opening cutscenes before the Elders fell to the clouds, meaning that the ancestor spirits fell FIRST, and the Elders had to follow them.
The humans passed on their knowledge and their technology. Remember when someone here earlier mentioned that there may have been other kingdoms aside from the stars on the clouds earlier? I think the "kingdom" of the humans was it.
Now this is the interesting part. It looks like the stars are actually going up to the clouds.
The stars didn't fall on the clouds first, they fell on land. By the time the Elders arrived, the stars must've been on the clouds already, since that's what the cutscene showed us.
Now that was how it started. Now I'm gonna go into the civilisation bit. This is one of the parts that fits somehow perfectly into the theme of the game.
With the emphasis of light and darkness, it reminded me of some old saying: "The brighter the light, the darker the shadow"
I don't think think the factories and the diamonds were meant to produce darkness. They were used for light, using light as an energy source. And darkness was the consequence of using too much.
Think of it like fossil fuels. Using light as an energy source is the same as burning fossil fuels. Darkness is like the harmful smoke produced that harmed the environment.
Earlier here in this chat, it was mentioned that there may have been 15-35 factories, used to create something. They weren't there to create something, I think they were just used to power civilisation, like ours.
This fits too well with the theme of each level representing a phase of civilisation. It just fits.
The King may represent those who became greedy in this process. The people who refused change because of their greed.
And cause the calamity and such wasteland in Eden and Golden Wasteland.
This could be the other interpretation of what the narrator said about the stars not listening or something like that.
Its also possible that something similar already happened which caused even more stars to fall. "With stars united, our light was infinite"
If it was infinite, then there's a high chance of darkness arriving or it being infinite too
Also, there's the chance that the offerings the humans made may have created more light than supposed to
And here's the final part I have, which involves the true origins of the Sky Children, also going a little too well with the themes of the game...
When we are at Home, it seems we're not on the clouds, but on land. Since there's actually no land seen anywhere, and there's huge storms in the clouds, its possible (or maybe likely) that the land flooded.
It's possible that the humans were gravely affected too.
It's been theorised again and again (at least with what I've seen) that the Sky child we play as is actually made of clay. Light and heat hardens it, and water weakens it.
But then there's that question. How was this kid created then?
Well, I think the humans did it. As a final gift to the stars, and a final attempt to make things right.
I mean, we find ourselves in the middle of nowhere, on land where there's no clouds and the sky and stars are very clear. As if we're put in a place for the stars to see easily.
Also, the cutscene actually is the most solid proof of this. Beceause at the end, there's a single stream of light that goes past the clouds and falls to us in the mural. We're not on a cloud, we're on the ground. From what I remember seeing in those docs about the canon lore, everything's there for a reason.
This goes well with the theme of unity in Sky and the theme of how each level and phase represents a stage in life. The beginning with how we come to life fits perfectly with how our life begins.
A soul being sent down from heaven, and being put in a body for us to experience life. Yeah, that fits too well.
Also, this idea came from the concept art in the where the player is referred to as "The Hybrid" and if you think about this, we in the game really are hybrids. The last living proof of the land and the sky's unity.
tender dune
shh let them continue 
gilded fossil
/oh
elder geode
my brain cant process this so im going to read it again
delicate coral
Oh sorry I thought you were done
gilded fossil
/oh, yea go one I wanna see what's next before i say sth!!!!!
thin dirge
The game creates this message to humanity. The only way to fix what the wrongs of the past is to unite. The sky child is a creation of both the stars and the people of the land. And they represent the new generation, those who can fix those mistakes. Only if the older generation allows it.
After dying and being sent to the orbit, we probably get sent down again in another statue of clay that the humans probably left behind. It was mentioned that Sky is meant to be chaoter 1, so other chapters may delve deeper into the past and some into the future.
elder geode
okay i understand a lil bit
hushed steeple
I loved reading this, and how great is your work gathering all the cave paintings, thanks for that all btw.
thin dirge
Your welcome!
gilded fossil
thin dirge
I just love making theories like this, lol
gilded fossil
/well, small nitpick then
elder geode
yes! it gave me more ideas about what happened in Eden
i've always wondered why it looked like that, but thanks to you, i have an idea now
gilded fossil
/wait oops sorry, are you done Butterfly? 
thin dirge
Yeah. I might adjust or change parts of the theory in the future
hushed steeple
Tho I only have one question, where comes this guess of yours about humans making this clay-child-like-statues?
thin dirge
There were many theories about the Sky kid being clay or something in reddit, though I'll have to search for it again
hushed steeple
Who are the humanoid figures in the cave murals
thin dirge
The humans I believe. The stars are... Stars or ancestor spirits
delicate coral
Iirc one of the devs said that the sound effects for skykids walking are made with clay, which got people theorising that skykids themselves are clay
I’m interested in your take on the presence of humans too. What makes you say that the figures in the murals are humans and not spirits?
gilded fossil
/well, imo, the mural on the boat on ark is how they made the spells sold there.
/the first mural depicts people with umbrellas and those fancy hats, those cosmetics are seen in Lightseeker!
/the next one is the Lightseeker person giving the light to people with tall hats which they turn into spells 
thin dirge
Multiple of the people in murals have been seen holding stars, and the stars are clearly being shown to have fallen from the sky. Those being can't be the spirits. Unless the spirits weren't stars
gilded fossil
There were many theories about the Sky kid being clay or something in reddit, though I'll have to search for it again
@thin dirge /hey that actually fits, tbh, consider we straight up slow down + die in water for too long
thin dirge
hushed steeple
I'm intrigue now by the intro sequence. The part where the stars fall and the comment says: "Wake up, child. Bring our lost stars home."
At the beginning I thought this comment pointed out about we actually falling from the skies as children of light and with our job of finding more fallen stars (imprints of children of light). But now I think different, like we are this new generation that has been on earth from a lot of time and we got this gift from the sky (light) with the purpose and job of finding more of them, and helping them.
delicate coral
Multiple of the people in murals have been seen holding stars, and the stars are clearly being shown to have fallen from the sky. Those being can't be the spirits. Unless the spirits weren't stars
@thin dirge those figures shown in the ark murals are spirits
They’re the seasonal spirits
hushed steeple
What about isle murals?
thin dirge
The ones that aren't golden colored are the ones from the isles, maybe. I found these screenshots from someone else on reddit tho
hushed steeple
I meant, are people on Isle's murals spirits too?
delicate coral
That was what I had assumed
They’re depicted with the same two straps across their bodies as the seasonal ones in ark
And I would imagine that they would have some other distinguishing feature if they were meant to be different species
hushed steeple
Actually, is there any mural with we children, I mean people depicted with capes/wings?
delicate coral
The intro mural
gilded fossil
/well, not all spirits wear that two strap, we see a few spirit wearing dress! like the Timid Stand girl, the Yahoo afro person in stadium 
thin dirge
I'm not entirely sure, aside from the intro mural
delicate coral
Indeed but all the mural people do wear the two straps, which is in common with most spirits
gilded fossil
Actually, is there any mural with we children, I mean people depicted with capes/wings?
@hushed steeple /we do have a mural in orbit with megan and 3 skids
delicate coral
Idk I had just always assumed that was the indicator of what the murals are meant to be depicting
thin dirge
There's always that chancd that the spirits may have gotten that fashion sense from the humans or whatever they encountered on land.
Plus, why would stars need clothing or something if all they do is shine their light or something? They don't even have gender too
delicate coral
Well they didn’t only shine their light
I think they still lived in their realms noramlly
There’s a farm in ark, and there’s houses in prairie
They watched sports in valley
gilded fossil
/there's hunter in forest
delicate coral
Yeah so they still lived like people
hushed steeple
/we do have a mural in orbit with megan and 3 skids
Not exactly murals, as those 3 kids are printed on stars, but yeah, then we're totally in destiny (and not in history, as cave paintings are), as we are shown to be/exist by the stars themselves
gilded fossil
Not exactly murals, as those 3 kids are printed on stars, but yeah, then we're totally in destiny (and not in history, as cave paintings are), as we are shown to be/exist by the stars themselves
@hushed steeple /what if someone made orbit? like they specificly put stars in that one specific order??????
/i would want to think it's a mural
thin dirge
@hushed steeple /what if someone made orbit? like they specificly put stars in that one specific order??????
/i would want to think it's a mural
@gilded fossil I read those links that was about a QnA for the game, and it was mentioned there doesn't have that much significance or something. Maybe aside from representing heaven.
Also, the idea of there being other people aside from the stars was mostly inspire by this post
gilded fossil
/aw sed
thin dirge
Maybe I am overthinking. But I guess when it comes to theorising , you just can't help it, lol
hushed steeple
Actually, someone making orbit has a lot of reason in it, because elders actually come from above when we call them, so it could be these well-made dimension that's really meant for us
thin dirge
Maybe.
elder geode
I was reading and you were talking about, uh, the narrator? Im confused, which part is narrated???? Am i missing out on something
delicate coral
hushed steeple
elder geode
Ohhh
delicate coral
I read those links that was about a QnA for the game, and it was mentioned there doesn't have that much significance or something. Maybe aside from representing heaven.
?Where is that?
thin dirge
Its in the pinned messages for this chat. There are links to info and QnAs and stuff.
I think it was in the QnA with someone called Reika? I could be wrong
delicate coral
Oh yeah I see what you’re talking about
I think that’s referring to the pattern swirling around the office portal, not orbit itself
thin dirge
Oh, okay
short owl
Ah yes. Reika. Be weary of red herrings.
tender dune
xD
delicate coral
I can’t imagine that they would say orbit itself is not too significant, given the length and importance of the entire sequence
thin dirge
True
Come to think of it, the Sky kid we play as looks more like they're made of candle wax than anything
Well, their legs are.
Maybe?
Well, I mean, that would make them a living candle or something.
Which somehow makes more sense than clay
But how are they not melting?
tender dune
but they sound like clay/something like a pot/glass when you hit them on a surface
thin dirge
True
wispy canopy
Hey guys how's everyone btw
thin dirge
Good.
wispy canopy
Glad to hear that butterfly
Anyway I know haven't sent a report on. My adventures for a while but here's one for today
Noticed this in prairie, bird cages area
Happening at 10 pm Malaysia time
thin dirge
Smoke?
tender dune
thats the green light 
wispy canopy
Could be a bug, or world ecent
tender dune
but since u dont collect them they show up gray
wispy canopy
thats the green light
@tender dune what do u mean
wispy canopy
Ohhh rite
tender dune
the greenlight falls there
tender dune
good hbu?
lofty pendant
i have a question you know the 8 person puzzle thinggy you know past there the one where you all hold out butterfly thing what happens for that. the people doing the puuzzle never stay.
fully tho what happen
alpine geyser
If you're talking about on top where there are 8 candles and 8 person hold Butterfly. There comes a dog/puppy. It's name ir Oreo.
@lofty pendant
You can ride it just for fun
modest finch
Spoiler
earnest fulcrum
Is there a specific area to talk about the new event?
orchid crypt
i don't think there really is arceus, it's probably based more on what type of conversation you want to have over it
alpine geyser
Oops sorry if i spoiled it 😅😅😅
short owl
Best place is #seasons-events-chat unless it's lore related
orchid crypt
like it could belong in here if you want to theorise about how the lanterns and boat fit in with existing lore, or it might just be #general-sky-discussion if you're talking about what you hope it brings...ah
modest finch
Just put a spoiler tag @alpine geyser thank you
orchid crypt
yeah seasonal chat actually sounds like a good channel
tender dune
Or #looking-for-group-live so you get people to do it with you
alpine geyser
Oh okay ||sorrry||
modest finch
Oo I see
short owl
Beta still forbidden. Beta be Big Deal.
tender dune
Yep
sacred rapids
how did aviary fit into the lore of the game when it existed?
cursive sonnet
crimson grove
It would be great if you could include the source you got that from then
@sacred rapids Aviary used to be between Isle and every other level! It was really like a hub, though I'm not sure if it really influenced the lore
shy quarry
@thin dirge /hey that actually fits, tbh, consider we straight up slow down + die in water for too long
@gilded fossil But what about the frozen lake in Arc of Triumph? being underwater there doesnt hurt you
short owl
"Really like a hub" could refer to sanctuary if sanctuary had a high people limit... But that would probably kill phones (worse) XD
sacred rapids
@sacred rapids Aviary used to be between Isle and every other level! It was really like a hub, though I'm not sure if it really influenced the lore
oh well
I still want it back tho
crimson grove
Really like a hub I meant it was the only place you could travel to worlds (similar to home now), and the description was something like "meet friends and travel to worlds"
Was it just a hub, or also part of the story? We might never know
alpine geyser
Aviary was in early beta. I saw in yt videos. It was bigger than our current Home.
inner comet
I really miss aviary
Tbh it looked better
sinful gull
yea whats that about
boreal nebula
@gilded fossil But what about the frozen lake in Arc of Triumph? being underwater there doesnt hurt you
@shy quarry I believe we are find under that for 2 reasons:
- We do not drown because we have no mouth
- It's a crystal clear water, from an uncontaminated source. After all even in thr Ark it is mentioned like this (and in Ark we see dark water can be purified)
normal berry
Reason for no isle elder on door?
@alpine geyser probably because the isle elder in the older versions of the game was more of a tutorial than a legitimate elder, i think
inner comet
hm maybe, but cmon atleast show gramps some appreciation 
lethal stump
many people theorize he did something to be rejected by the other elders as well, as a cause for him not being on he eden door and also having a broken mask
sinful gull
nobody shows sky grampy any love
inner comet
sinful gull
also probably the reason why there are no candle cakes in isle
its more of a tutorial realm/introduction
normal berry
many people theorize he did something to be rejected by the other elders as well, as a cause for him not being on he eden door and also having a broken mask
i also like this theory ^^
alpine geyser
I felt bcoz it's a more like tutorial realm> also probably the reason why there are no candle cakes in isle
@sinful gull
its more of a tutorial realm/introduction
@sinful gull yep
inner comet
Im still curious about why his face is completely damaged
alpine geyser
All elders lacked in something in cutscene
inner comet
I like to think of it like he was also an important elder but due to that thing that made him get rejected hes now not as important
So maybe what he does now is guide new sky kids n such
alpine geyser
Hmm that idea seems impressive
short owl
what happened is he got into a fight with Lamed while not being either Teth or Tsadi
inner comet
I dont get the last part-
short owl
It references a headcannon... That I think I only shared with brick now that I think about it. Teth and Lamed both work different aspects of a highly technichal field, so they are likely to butt heads a lot (practical vs theory). Tsadi has like... Real experience in battle. Lamed seems like a quiet one, but the headcannon is that they are actually the most powerful elder, and keep it contained
If Daleth and Lamed are both knowledge/wisdom based, they may also butt heads.
Lamed wanting to go forward, Daleth wanting to keep to tradition
inner comet
Ohhh
Now that you explained, all i can think of is lamed going into the avatar state and breaking his face
lethal stump
personally i think the opposite i think lamed and teth are girlfriends
but thats a discussion for another day
inner comet
they are girlfriends 😡
short owl
My headcannon may include an area in vault where Lamed can go boom without hurting others...
And Tsadi being the one to calm Lamed down when... Help... Is needed
Also that Lamed and Teth are on opposite sides of Wasteland and Valley because they butt heads HARD. They need eachother's oppinions and ultimately respect eachother, but... It's good not to have that all the time. Tsadi and Samekh, however, you never wanna separate because they need to wear eachother out regularly.
inner comet
So toe mom is basically the head of the "council"?
lucid sphinx
many people theorize he did something to be rejected by the other elders as well, as a cause for him not being on he eden door and also having a broken mask
@lethal stump
wdym on eden door
All elders lacked in something in cutscene
@alpine geyser like?
lethal stump
The Eden door in eden and at home has the elder masks on it, but Isle’s mask is not there
tender dune
yeee
lucid sphinx
where can I see them?
lethal stump
at home
tender dune
the masks?
lucid sphinx
yea
tender dune
big eden door at home like bricky said
also here's my theory of isle gramps
https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/632004389137154048/745606961705517067
lucid sphinx
wow that's a good theory
tender dune
i always doubt my theories tbh so i dont even trust myself xD
short owl
This is lore discussions and spoilers. You don't need to trust your theories.
normal berry
anything goes. it's fair game, no theory is better or worse than the other
tender dune
Tried getting a proper shape of the friends constellation (couldn't properly erase my friends at the top;)
repost cuz invite icon annoyed me
short owl
I orriginally thought that was an anchor
tender dune
same
short owl
In a way, I guess it still is
hushed steeple
What if the isle elder is actually the king and when the eden diamond exploded he just ran away and became old (and why his mask is damaged) and he created another realm for him to live isolated and mega bird just creates sky kids to the sky world
And so in the cutscene he shows the sky kids the way
And why the isle elder isnt in the eden gate because it didn’t exist
It’s possible that the eden diamond exploded taking most of the isle elder’s energy and since elders cant die(I’m assuming) he just turned old and broken
Sky kids pop in and a little bit of the isle elder’s energy is restored
Actually nvm it dont make sense
modern smelt
the elders are really lonely
short owl
What do you mean it doesn't make sense?! It's reasonably solid!
hushed steeple
Because i was looking at the body shape of the king and isle
Maybe the king changed his mask after or u know how when sky kids lose energy and wings they’re shadowed out
I thought it was something similar to that, the king lost his energy and his appearance changed
short owl
Well I mean from all the info we have, king was BIG. An isle sized king would have to have a different mask for practicality reasons
strange parrot
Maybe it got smaller by being robbed of its light?
crisp geode
Hello, I'm pretty new to this discord, where can I find the canon lore, if there's one?? 😅😅
short owl
Hello new Lore Moff!
Read this short document to get started! Once you’ve read this, check out pins for more information.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit
Here and pins are good places to start
crisp geode
Thank u so much!!! 🥰🥰✨
bleak basin
lilac sapphire
So idk what theories you guys have on what happened in wasteland but i have an ok one based off of some irl facts i learned from my dad who worked in a refinery
So obviously wasteland is very very polluted, and probably had some wartimes, based off of the stab stick elder. All the pipes suggest a factory setting, and the huge bones probably mean wasteland denizens (or the equivalent) hunted the whales to extinction (as there are few of them living and we can't interact)
So what pollutes well? Crude oil and their refineries, when not managed well. Why would skyfolks want oil when they have magic? Well guess how you can make candles? A variation of oil.
So you can make candles real nice, but crude is full to the brim with other stuff that lacks candleness so if you have no use for it, well, chuck it. (Don't it's a bad idea) So if you're pumping out your candles, you might start to attract some attention. some people might want your candle factory. War! Send your best warriors to protect your candles! Such heroes become legends, like the elder
And you may be wondering, but the candles are offerings to spirits! Yes, and that's why it's so tragic. A currency of tradition, tarnished with grime and greed.
And so the fall of wasteland.
Anyway that was long, but I'm very interested of what you guys think
mild lark
I actually thought that the factory actually produces candle at first
But the concept art (even tho it is unreliable) show us a hint of how the factory should work
Combined with other people observation...
It seem like the factory fusing dark creature and light creature together to create an artificial stars
Or power diamond as people called it
Beeswax can be a safe alternative to make a candle.. without harming the environment
So yeah maybe people use that instead
But it could make sense why there is alot of bones in graveyard.. as if they were farming their fat to produce candles..
And once they was completely extract every single valuable thing on that creature ... They just dump their carcasses there..
Pretty dark...
lilac sapphire
Honestly yeah
The whale fat is what they used for lamps because it didn't vaporize as much so it didn't explode, but the rest they dump in the river and light it on fire (irl)
lilac sapphire
Flying slug lol
lilac sapphire
I'd be mad if I'd been hunted to near extinction just saying
lilac sapphire
Hahahah
mild lark
Btw nice theory
lilac sapphire
Oh thank you, i was very nervous about it because I've never had one and wasn't sure what was cannon so 😅
short owl
Cannon is where the heart and game meet
lilac sapphire
Anyway, I'd like to see more of the wasteland battle styles. It would really reveal some cultural stuff, who they fought
WAIT WHAT IF THE ARMY WAS TO HUNT WHALES because let's be honest they're really scary
lilac sapphire
OH WOW
round river
Guys krill emerge from underground not only slump👀
sly kestrel
That’s an old glitch
But if u have a theory u wanna make about that krill emerging from the sand
Go ahead
hidden scaffold
oooh someone was talking about oils... now i wonder if the darkness plants are kind of the same thing, but a "renewable" form like plants irl are...? they kind of look like car oil/soap 
vital glade
How tall is the average spirit
hushed steeple
You know the sand formations at the shipwreck kind of reminds me of tar sands/oil sands
sinful anvil
mb related to skykid biology?
in this pic #screenshots-and-videos message i found that the chibi’s eyes went dark bc it shows closed eyelids like in maskless!!
thin dirge
Remember when I mentioned the possibility of there being humans in Sky and the humanoid figures in the Isle murals may not be ancestors but people who lived on land?
The concept art of the sky kid actually had a human/ancestor hybrid art on there, meaning that humans definitely were at least considered at one point for the game
hushed steeple
Yes, the original cave mural in the tunnels of isle shows the humanoid figures already present and catching the "lights/stars"
Always puzzled me
thin dirge
Yeah, I believed there were humans before the stars fell. One of the reasons why the stars fell was actually to check out the humans since they kept giving them gifts and kept praising them or something
They're the ones who gave the stars technology and there were trades between groups
The sky kid was created by humans as a final gift to the stars in an attempt to make things right. The stars gave fragments of light to bring them to life.
mild lark
There's no sign of human tho
thin dirge
True. They could just be hiding out somewhere, making sure not to intervene. They could also have died out when we awaken
I mean, if there's a storm, chaos could've happened on land with flooding and stuff
I did heard Sky was meant to only be chapter 1, so maybe we'll find out at later chapters? There's seems to be hints of the possibility of humans existing at one point, but only little details like the ones on murals
mild lark
Concept art shows us how the game eventually progresses but it isn't a reliable source to figure out what happened..
But as we know
Everything is possible
thin dirge
Yep!
I'm just gonna take all this just as my headcanon of what happened. The lore is really interesting!
hushed steeple
I dont understand the first mural, it contradicts the narrative we were told
thin dirge
Yeah, I thought the beginning intro had an unreliable-narrator. It seems to tell us only a mere fraction of what really happened.
mild lark
Tbh the way I make theory is looking at what game Devs show us in the game.. based on real evidence.
hushed steeple
This was prior to the star fall i presume
thin dirge
Yeah, thats my interpretation too
hushed steeple
These are the only figures that appear in the murals
rugged jackal
I need to get my own laptop. Then I can look at Discord and play Sky at the same time. I have it every other day at the moment.
thin dirge
Btw, this screenshot is not mine-
mild lark
My theory is that megabird rains hell on sky world lol
thin dirge
I'm not sure if megabird really still is a thing on Sky now. I can't see much evidence of them existing in Sky. Unless I'm missing something....
Yeah... I'm probably missing something
hushed steeple
The second mural is literally the most important mural in sky i would argue, because it shows the symbol of stars and helios in the same frame
mild lark
Yes
hushed steeple
Cue megabird image bricky
rugged jackal
Hmm
mild lark
Megabird is in end credits
thin dirge
Ohhh, okay, that explains it. I actually haven't been to Eden yet but I watched the ending already, so yeah. (I watched it cause I thought I might never be able to play Sky)
EDIT: I mean, I haven't finished Eden, I mean
hushed steeple
What does helios symbol mean?
thin dirge
Ohh
rugged jackal
What’s a Helios??
hushed steeple
Megabirb*
thin dirge
I've seen that, but I didn't think of it as the Megabird
I thought it was the orbit from a far point of view
thin dirge
You need two dashes on each side, not one
rugged jackal
Right
thin dirge
Yeah, like that
mild lark
Really
hushed steeple
Without the s
Sorry
I dont actually know, there is absolute no knowledge on the symbols names or representation
thin dirge
With the mention of the megabird, I suddenly have the thought of it being the absolute physical manifestation light itself.
Wait, what if the megabird was the narrator in the intro this whole time?! :O
Maybe I'm overthinking again, lol
So is the being in the outro of Sky really confirmed to be the megabird tho?
Or is it just how most people interpret it?
mild lark
It is high possiblity that megabird is the narrator
There's alot of reason not to
Some people in this lore chat (I don't remember sorry) said that maybe megabird rain hell on sky world.. and then send skykid to collect the remaining
thin dirge
Megabird rain hell on Sky world?
mild lark
Well it is biased around the theory that has been made in this chat
That king is trying to take over megabird's role or destroy megabird.. so then megabird just destroy the world like a boss
thin dirge
Woah
mild lark
But that's just a theory...
A game theo-
thin dirge
I did heard theories similar to that
Though my interpretation of what happened is kinda different from that
mild lark
Yeah I don't particularly like to make theory of the origin of something
So I don't really care
thin dirge
I theorised that the darkness was just an after effect of using to much light as a fuel source, kinda like the smoke produced from burning fossils
That's what the factories was actually for. Just to power civilisation
thin dirge
"The brighter the light, the darker the shadow." Its a quote I heard from somewhere
thin dirge
Also, the idea of humans being around actually came from you. You mentioned there being other kingdoms the king was trading with
Well, partially from you I mean
mild lark
Oh really
thin dirge
Yeah
The megabird may be an existance that was also created to counter the darkness, like Yin and Yang
mild lark
Yes
thin dirge
Light became to much, and darkness followed. Now there's not much light and there was too much darkness, so light makes a comeback
mild lark
Light is energy source for all creature too
thin dirge
Yeah. Light and Darkness coming like a cycle is kinda like the cycle of life. There comes light/day (life) and the dark/night (death)
mild lark
But your theory about darkness is just after effects of producing light is actually pretty likely tbh
thin dirge
The King represents how humans fall into greed, wanting more. With more light, people craved more, and thus more darkness in their hearts. The King is a representation of those people who refused change and thus creates destruction.
Also, the game has a theme of it being about how civilisation rises and falls, so yeah, it makes sense.
thin dirge
Not yet. But I did watch the ending. Once. I'm sort of fine with spoilers
mild lark
So you are new player?
thin dirge
Yeah, a bit. I found all spirits now tho
I just started playing around a week ago. I have played before that, but only briefly
Since there was lag on Android phones. ;-;
mild lark
I've rarely play the game
thin dirge
Oh
mild lark
3 weeks in total
thin dirge
Oof
thin dirge
That looks lovely
mild lark
Yep.... Skykid be floating tho
thin dirge
Yeah
mild lark
But I recommend you to finish the game first..
Because the first time im at eden
I almost cried lol
thin dirge
I wanna wait till Eden resets. I also prefer going with a friend first. (Eden is scary-)
thin dirge
Yeah, maybe. Though there's someone I know personally that might join me
But they haven't finished Eden either, lol
There's this other friend that seems active on weekends (Stranger friend I mean)
mild lark
Good luck on your eden run...
I got to go
Probably making another theory tomorrow
thin dirge
Alright, see ya!
mild lark
Or next hour lol.. who knows
hushed steeple
Is this my over thinking.. or those glowing dots in cloud really making some symbols
Edited pic
Just added some filters
elder geode
does anyone have any theories about Dark Dragons and crabs?
or what this is?
i've only seen this creature twice, Forest and ||Eden||
eternal hearth
that is a whale
elder geode
Ohhhh
thin dirge
Well, there is a mural with crabs, I think it was from a Seasonal event
elder geode
i thought it was some kind of air slug
thin dirge
Same
Not 100% sure tho
It definitely looks like crabs
And the concept art also had crabs, but uncorrupted and had a patch of light on their backs
Also the screenshot isn't mine
Krill may be dark creatures, like how Mantas are creatures born from light
Crabs may be the same
I did interpret darkness just being a natural counterpart of light, so why not have its own creatures like how light does?
Darkness needs light to exist, so it probably consumes light to live. That's my theory for them
There are theories about them being light creatures but corrupted and transformed. Also, the Krill somehow have their own calls that seem similar to Mantas.....
Like you know, the golden ring thing that Mantas have that are kinda like our own calls. It's the same with Krills....
worn inlet
Hmmmmm all creatures are mostly water ones,like the crabs,the Krills, the jellyfishes etc. Even the Krills look like shrimps,soooo,,, what if at the beginning they were all part of one system?? And something happened that corrupted that system,,,
Also we can see a giant fish's skeleton in the forest realm
Mayhaps it's the same creature like that one in the secret place in forest?
Tho the skeleton is kinda small
spring blaze
im pretty sure it is
thin dirge
Am I the only one who thinks the Dark Dragon actually looks more like a Lobster than a Krill?
worn inlet
Yesss xD
thin dirge
It looks like a Lobster...
thin dirge
Btw, Lobsters kind of like Crabs? Idk
worn inlet
Yes
thin dirge
Also, in my place they call it PrAwN-
thin dirge
pRaWn~
worn inlet
I used to call them fleas
spring blaze
crabs are little ticks
thin dirge
Wait a second... Aren't the dark creatures are kind of like sea creatures, but the kind that you can eat? O.o
worn inlet
Also I'll need to go investigate ALL the secret wall drawings and make a full sheet of them for the chat
U--U
Wait a second... Aren't the dark creatures are kind of like sea creaturez, but the kind that you can eat? O.o
@thin dirge mayhaps xD
thin dirge
Light creatures - Not edible
Dark Creatures - SeAfOoD
spring blaze
thin dirge
Could that have some significance, or am I overthinking?
spring blaze
everyone here is technically overthinking HAHA
thin dirge
Maybe its just like that to have some irony. We're meant to be eating seafood but in Sky, they eat us
Not nice.
spring blaze
as long as you can back it up somehow then anything can be theorized really
thin dirge
Haha, yeah!
thin dirge
I did mention before what they could be if you scroll up. Honestly, I kinda see them as just creatures from darkness, contrasting light, and need to consume light to keep existing. Though there are other theories of course.
My interpretation is kinda dull tbh
worn inlet
Bruh,at one point that's creepy but also a great theory U--U)b
spring blaze
wasteland elder has cape
worn inlet
Btw why does Eden have no elder?
And why do the realms have elders?
I have several questions
U--U
wasteland elder has cape
@spring blaze really? I didn't notice >:0
Lemme check
Bro yes
worn inlet
Mayhaps the other one's capes turned into their clothes
Or idk
I gotta read all the chat before
XD
thin dirge
What do you guys think about the Isle Elder actually being the King? Someone mentioned this earlier in this chat and the idea seems rather interesting....
worn inlet
Hmmmm
worn inlet
But then why don't we see him multiple times
Also let's talk about the final realm :0
thin dirge
Someone mentioned this may be why the Isle constellation isn't in Eden? Not sure tho
spring blaze
the eden gate is an old beta model where isle wasn’t considered an actual realm (more of a tutorial one) so the isle elder wasnt there
thin dirge
Ohh, okay
worn inlet
Ooooo
spring blaze
what abt eden
spring blaze
but ykno, you can fit it in lore
i mean
the isle elder is also the only one with a broken mask..
thin dirge
Well, it seems strongly hinted there is, but we don't know what happened or where that Elder is
spring blaze
hes dead bc look at eden
thin dirge
In the original concept for the game, the Eden Elder was going to be the final boss and we save that Elder at the end
spring blaze
its a wreck HAHA
thin dirge
Yeah. There's a concept art links in the pinned messegaes for this chat
worn inlet
What if Eden is the Abyss where all the darkness comes from
This is why there's a barrier
Uhhhhhh I need to check everything!!>:0
thin dirge
I have my own theory why darkness exists. Its simply the smoke from overusing light as a fossil fuel
Well, that's how I compare it. The overuse of light as a power source is like burning fossil fuel. Darkness is the smoke created from that which harmed the environment
worn inlet
That's actually pretty accurate
thin dirge
"The brighter the light, the darker the shadow" ~Unknown
thin dirge
That's probably one of the reasons stars fell too.
"With stars united, our light was INFINTE", if light was infinite, the darkness may be too.
Because they're opposites like birth and death, day and night. Its a cycle.
Like Yin and Yang
That's why I believed the Krill and Crab are just simple dark creatures. They're just the opposite of the light creatures.
Now that the darkness has come, the light shall follow. That's why we exist. To counteract the darkness since there's no more light.
worn inlet
What if once everything was one kingdom. But after a corruption appeared Eden and separated the kingdoms into multiple realms and the ones that survived the darkness became the elders and set a barrier on Eden. And what if someone purposely let out the darkness but was defeated and thrown into Eden/became the Eden elder. And they are the reason why we need to give the light to the elders,since they have been injured and lost their light.
Man I'm going off topic xD
thin dirge
Hah, it's alright
thin dirge
In my belief, with Sky, there will be times when the light shall shine brilliantly, a golden age, and the time where darkness ensues. With the current present time of Sky, we're currently bringing forth a new era of DAWN.
worn inlet
YESSSSS
thin dirge
After the events of Sky (Sky was mentioned to be Chapter 1, so it makes sense-), there may be peace throughout the place, and a new golden age. If we were to have another game after Sky, it might be more of a relaxing game~
Or we could be going back in time to see what really happened.
There must be a reason why there's so much unexplained lore around. What if we meet the King in future games?
Its gonna take a while till that happens tho
thin dirge
Yeah! It makes me feel hyped!
Each chapter could represent a cycle of day and night too! Sky represents Dawn
spring blaze
man its kinda weird to imagine that therell be more games
spring blaze
but they cant really add a new realm because they already have a set theme
thin dirge
Yeah
stark rose
Anyone noticed the beautiful sound of the wing lights 
spring blaze
and seasons that goes with the themes and aesthetic can go for so long
thin dirge
Woah, mystical...
orchid crypt
they weren't kidding when they said "sound is more than half the experience"
thin dirge
I think the future games may go into what happened in the past. They put a lot of lore in Sky, but why make it so ambiguous? I don't know, I feel like there's more to it than just leaving it to our heads and interpret it ourselves.
If I am right about the "Era cycles like day and night" and Sky being the Era of Dawn that would bring the new day, I can guess that the stars shining brightly and then falling from the heavens is the Dusk to Night Era.
The stars slowly becoming more advanced with technology after their fall can be seen as the Dawn, and the peak of their civilisation is the Day Era.
spring blaze
there’s definitely more to it
worn inlet
Hmmmmm what if it's not about new games but about time line scenes?? In Sky.
thin dirge
I'm bit unsure more scenes will be added in Sky. Everything is set in Sky now and there's this strong theme in Sky, and adding more levels may ruin that.
Or scenes explaining the past.
thin dirge
The people of TGC could definitely make more games. They have done games before (Though Sky is the first game made independently)
worn inlet
XD
worn inlet
Then I guess the entire story would not be only Sky
What if they add chapter 2?
In the current game
thin dirge
Well, in another game, maybe
worn inlet
I'm low-key scared of a sky in a modern theme xD
thin dirge
Wait, There's a reason why its called Sky: Children Of The Light
worn inlet
Yes
thin dirge
Like, Sky being the first word
worn inlet
Hmmmmm
mild lark
The main title is sky
spring blaze
sky was concepted to be set in the real world
worn inlet
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
thin dirge
Meaning the next games may have Sky beginning every title
worn inlet
Yes
spring blaze
flying over cityscapes and escaping from it
worn inlet
Bro the sanctuary islands!
thin dirge
Like Sky: Golden Age Of The Light or something like that!
mild lark
Yes .. concept to have real world
The story will be like a children went for adventure to the magic world
thin dirge
When more games come in this series, we'll have to call them the Sky Series or something
worn inlet
XD
thin dirge
Sky may be the main title of the series
mild lark
Tgc devs is a small team
thin dirge
True
mild lark
Even with their hardest work.. it will take them years
thin dirge
But they could collab with other big companies too for the other games like Journey
Wasn't Journey something created with Sony or something?
It was stated in the QnA links I think
worn inlet
Yes but I think we should focus more on the storyline of the current game :0
thin dirge
True
spring blaze
yep
worn inlet
I'm new to discord so I'm kinda confused with how it works U--U
spring blaze
thats alright!
mild lark
I think sky world is underestimating how important heat energy is...
thin dirge
Maybe, lol
mild lark
And overestimate for the power of making thing float
thin dirge
Or maybe light and heat are the same?
Technically, heat creates light in our world. Maybe its the other way around in Sky?
That would make sense-
mild lark
Heat can be generated by alot of thing..
And light was able to transfer heat
Not that heat is the light itself
spring blaze
ok i sneep zzzz. gnight
pastel brookBOT
snorp! 
mild lark
Oh man they don't even have magnet...
spring blaze
mild lark
Sleep tight!
worn inlet
Goodnight!!
thin dirge
If you make certain things hot enough though, you can produce light. That's how it works with the very first light bulbs.
Or am I thinking this wrong? (Darn it, I just had a test about electromagnetic waves!)
Also, goodnight!!
mild lark
That is a radiation
thin dirge
Oof, I am getting things messed up.
mild lark
Everything will radiate heat
thin dirge
But it could be the other way around in Sky. This is another world where stars are actually people here. Remember that.
mild lark
Yes
thin dirge
Maybe that's why they use light as a power source. It can create heat, a lot more heat than most things could.
Its like asking why we don't use Windmills and Solar panels but we still use fossil fuels anyways. The stars just use it as a good source of energy and they just stick to that.
mild lark
They have huge red diamond that shoot laser into the sky
I suspect that is the main powerhouse
thin dirge
Perhaps. Maybe it originally sucks light from the sky?
Or produces light itself which shoots to the sky?
mild lark
Alot of theory has been made that suggesting the big power diamond has exploded bad caused massive damage to sky world
thin dirge
Ooh, maybe. Maybe it exploded with darkness and it spread
mild lark
It doesn't spread as far tho
thin dirge
True. Only mostly within the radius of the explosion. But it would make sense for darkness to emerge from the greatest source of light there is if darkness is produced from too much light
But isn't Vault the level between Wasteland and Eden? How did the darkness get there? The dark dragons and crabs?
mild lark
Vault has no darkness in it
It just dark in atmosphere
Because it represent night and dream
thin dirge
Exactly. Then how could the darkness and dark creatures arrive in Wasteland if there's the Vault between the Wasteland and Eden? Unless the two are indeed connected but we had to travel to the Vault first or the canals spread it there
...Maybe I just answered it myself, lol
mild lark
Right when you enter vault portal at homespace.. fly to the right
There a two player door....
thin dirge
Oh, is that how you get into the ||office||?
thin dirge
Ohh, okay
mild lark
You can ask for help at #questions-and-help .. they will help you in detail...
I don't know how to give instructions
thin dirge
It seems crabs aren't enough to corrupt anything though.
mild lark
Make sure to spoiler tag for the office...
pure coyote
crabs only hurt you if you go near them and call? so i think they’re the territorial
mild lark
Some people suggest that crab is light creature get corrupted by darkness.. not that there originally a dark creature. We see that in cave mural. I don't have the picture tho
mild lark
Yes and there more I think
pure coyote
someone said it looks like the people are running away
thin dirge
Ooh, true tho
There's also a chance that the idea of crabs and krills being originally light creatures were scrapped from the concept of the story
mild lark
But I think for the crucial truth.. we need to make more investigation about king and the elders..
They played a major role of the story.
pure coyote
yeah i think we can get a better idea of the overall story by looking at them
thin dirge
Hmmm... It's rather interesting most of the ideas that were scrapped from the game were about us saving those that were corrupted... Its almost saying that TGC had an idea to put a theme in the game that tells us we can't save everyone...
Though in the original concept, other players had to be sacrificed to keep going
pure coyote
the goal is to restore the light but i’m pretty sure that is impossible to do with eden
thin dirge
Yeah, thats what I meant. The original concept idea had us save the King and we also get to save the Dark Creatures but they were scrapped. So we get to restore light in Eden in a way, but now, we don't.
mild lark
Isle elders
Very old looking.. also has no reference in Eden's door
Prairie elders
Like butterflies..
It seem that he turn light to butterflies and store them into jars.. also he is huge
Forest mom
Like hammer.. she uses the hammer to create a power diamond with our skykid's light.
Valley twins
Like hockey.. look like athletes.. very cool.
Wasteland elders
A watered down space marine.. has a sheild and spears.. and was very exhausted. Also he is huge as heck
Vault elders
Look like a smart guy.. probably the smartest guy because he hold the vault of knowledge.
Eden elders
Probably king.. yes it is the most logical. King is the biggest and WIDEST of them all.. lol
As you can see I'm not particularly great at observing minor details.. that's why I don't make theory about origin of the elders lol
You know what I'll edit it... To best of my knowledge
thin dirge
We probably will never know about the true origins of the Elders. Even TGC seems to imply that
pure coyote
all we know is they come from the same place and know eachother?
thin dirge
Yeah
mild lark
I've edited it .. check it out
pure coyote
edited what?
thin dirge
The Elders could be the very first stars or the primal stars, and the ancestors are like 2nd gen of those stars and of course with time, stars became more different from the primitive stars (Elders).
That's how I see them.
mild lark
My last message
elder night
So uh has anyone discussed on the first battle in forest or smth
pure coyote
i didnt even know there was a battle there
mild lark
Elders are godlike creature... They are not present in the game... But they effects the reality.
Meaning that they are out of time and space
elder night
It was kinda shown in the concept art lol
mild lark
I can't read your name...
thin dirge
There are probably way more elders than the ones we've seen. But all of them are probably outside of space and time and are somewhere else
elder night
Oof
pure coyote
ah i haven’t looked through them all yet,, ive been busy whoops
their might be more elders for other lands?? i can’t think of the word but like places outside of the sky kingdom we know
mild lark
Elders that have important effect on sky kingdom is 7 elders... Including king
thin dirge
Maybe the Elders praise the Megabird though... Or have some oath under the Megabird if the Megabird was actually the physical manifestation of light and creation maybe
What if the Megabird created the Elders-
O.o
mild lark
We still don't know much about megabird...
We still don't know it's true size..
(Likely to be as big as a galaxy.. well because light)
thin dirge
I'm just gonna see it myself when I go through Eden tomorrow. I actually don't remember seeing the Megabird when I first watched the ending, soo....
mild lark
Concept art.. but tell us how big megabird is
elder night
What do yall think what king did
mild lark
For concept storyline..
King is huge and strong
thin dirge
Woah, that's a big birb
mild lark
thin dirge
I'm also still uncertain if the thing at the Ending really is the Megabird or not. But I'll have to see that ending myself
mild lark
Noticed there a shadow of a whale there 
elder night
I think that king was huge due to their amount of light or smth
Then they became smol kid u need 2 hug lol
mild lark
You will see how huge it is.. because it zoom out so far away and then eventually the pictures of Megabird is shown
Wait do you mind if I spoiler the credit butterfly?
thin dirge
I don't mind
elder night
F
mild lark
It zoom out so far away
opaque mango
whos nadir
mild lark
What?
elder night
In the concept art lol
thin dirge
It looks more like the Orbit tho...
opaque mango
in the eden concept picture
mild lark
The orbit is the megabird.. imo
opaque mango
mild lark
Megabird is a collection of million of light creatures behaving like one
thin dirge
Woah
mild lark
I'm not sure if that was true
thin dirge
So it's not confirmed?
mild lark
No you're new
Don't worry
Bricky usually make theory about megabird and king . So he has done alot of observation about megabird..
Most of the time I ask bricky
thin dirge
Ohh, okay
digital willow
Hi I am back from my slumber(my phone broke). Bricky has alot of info on sky lore and theories.
thin dirge
Ooh, okay
Soooo... Are we just gonna call the Orbit "Megabird" then?
Or is that not right?
mild lark
Part of megabird
thin dirge
Oh, okay
digital willow
The megabird is an entity that takes souls and spits them out into something new from what I recall.
thin dirge
(Oh greeaaatt, now you just gave me the dumb idea of the Orbit being the Megabird's butt-)
digital willow
Technically you're not wrong.
gray rock
Wh-
digital willow
More like it's throat.
elder night
And then the reborn part is the butt?
mild lark
I always look megabird as a big octopus
opaque mango
Offtopic but i think the statues in eden are other skykids that died in eden
digital willow
It eats souls and throws them up from what I can picture.
thin dirge
Ewww, does that mean we're bird poop???????
frail hearth
lmao
thin dirge
Actually, that looks more like the wings
thin dirge
That seems more like it, but it just looks like that cause its wings are down and its going up. Or is that just my brain?
digital willow
What were the indifferent?
deft stump
thin dirge
When we're corrupted? I think it means what its meant to symbolize
mild lark
I don't know... There isn't alot of theory about that indifferent alone..
elder night
Where is the source of the pics?
deft stump
digital willow
Are the indifferent sky kids with no care for the light or darkness?
It would make sense given the definition.
mild lark
Skykid is pretty likely to be the descendants
thin dirge
Maybe? I think the indifferent part is what the corruption of our sky kid is meant to represent symbolically
digital willow
Maybe.
mild lark
Notice that megabird isn't in the circle? Yeah...
thin dirge
Being corrupted means becoming indifferent. The flame represents our connection to others and probably still does considering what its used for.
It just means its symbolism
mild lark
oh man indifferent look so cool
thin dirge
I kinda agree tbh
digital willow
It might be that they turned their backs on dark and light and they are a representation of null or void, or they are corrupted like the king to a lesser extent.
mild lark
See that darkstone? Yeah guess which one is the king's head
thin dirge
That four pointed star
digital willow
Yup!
mild lark
Mhm
thin dirge
Seems kinda obvious? Not being a downer or anything
unborn belfry
I just got here (in this chat) and I’m super confused lmao
opaque mango
actually my theory about the statues being skykids is wrong since you become a blue orb after you die not a statue-
thin dirge
Wait, you become a blue orb? I didn't notice that when I watched the ending
digital willow
Also the statues sleeves are longer than your skykids.
thin dirge
Sorry, its been a while since I actually watched the ending. I don't really have any intention to watch it again since I'm now playing Sky
opaque mango
Its like when spirits become blue orbs too
thin dirge
Ohh
opaque mango
Maybe the statues are kinda like spirits (spirit species?) but they are trapped in eden, and need light to go to orbit?
mild lark
They are the child of light... Imo
opaque mango
oh hwjwahahwhw
thin dirge
Ahh, its kinda like an original idea I thought once that the Sky kid may be a hybrid of light and dark, so that the light doesn't become too much for the sky kid and the dark won't arrive to corrupt them like how it did in Eden
opaque mango
what does Imo mean
thin dirge
But I kinda discarded the idea a bit
mild lark
In my opinion
opaque mango
ohh
digital willow
Also the star kids in the eden tunnel are sitting not standing?
They don't sit anywhere else.
thin dirge
I thought the statues in Eden were the real children, the star children. The winged lights were their souls or their light
We are vessels to bring it to them
mild lark
Pretty much yeah
digital willow
I'm talking about the Winged light when I talk about the star kids.
opaque mango
opaque mango
isnt it t h e-
opaque mango
look like homespace thing
mild lark
Maybe outdated
digital willow
Isn't it odd that the star kids are sitting in the last area in eden, they don't do that anywhere else, not even when they are in caves.
opaque mango
caves?
thin dirge
Oh, you mean winged lights?
digital willow
Yes.
thin dirge
Hmm... I noticed that too... Maybe because they're closer to their original bodies and their bodies were sitting?
Or it could also be the environment
Might even be both
mild lark
Ah hah..
I have a theory about that carbon
Maybe before eden exploded
The place with the huge red diamond supposed to be peaceful with divine vibe to it.. so people that rest there is actually having rest before going in.
thin dirge
Woah
unborn belfry
I mean, Eden is super windy so maybe they’re sitting for support? Idek
thin dirge
Maybe, Eden is meant to be a paradise, based from the name
mild lark
Yep
opaque mango
You cant go to the big diamond tho theres a windwall
unborn belfry
True, but it definitely doesn’t live up to its name lmao
more like actual hell tbh-
mild lark
Game mechanics... Windwall is game mechanics..
I hate windwall..
thin dirge
Also, only the children are there, meaning it must've been a huge place for the children to play in. Like a nebula space for clusters of protostars...
Hah, as a young kid, I read stuff about astronomy, lol
opaque mango
whos the they- i kinda think its the elders
mild lark
If you enter the stormlock( the area where the big diamond is present)
If you look at the surrounding.
You will see that it has lot of broken pillars..
Yes that is definitely the elders
thin dirge
Hmm... Yeah, definitely sounds like an explosion
You know I have a personal headcanon about the Narrator (not really something with evidence or something I theorised-)
opaque mango
did the 'stars' come from orbit?
thin dirge
Maybe
mild lark
We not entirely sure
digital willow
Probably.
thin dirge
I assumed that they were to be honest
unborn belfry
Orbit seems the most logical but we can’t be certain
mild lark
For me I don't think so
digital willow
They might live near orbit.
mild lark
Orbit is where we going to be rebirth.. there little to no building there
unborn belfry
A home doesn’t need to have buildings, a home is simply a place where you live, a house, however, is a building lmao
digital willow
Home is where the heart is.
unborn belfry
Like, many animals homes are in the wild, yet they’re still considered homes
So orbit could still be a home for them
thin dirge
Hmmm.. Unless stars actually don't need houses or buildings. I still have my theory about there being humans on the planet the stars fell in and they were the ones who told the stars about their technology. They simply took on the forms of the humans who taught them
unborn belfry
The thing that actually doesn’t make sense is “amidst the clouds”
mild lark
Godlike creature probably have a building or two
thin dirge
Hmm, not sure about that...
unborn belfry
Depends on what godlike creature lmao
lone hull
The windwall too strong in the storm
mild lark
You know.. the one that can exist out of space and time
unborn belfry
I doubt stars would need buildings
After all, they are “stars”, and when you look up at the night sky do you see buildings?
thin dirge
Oof, I gotta go
mild lark
Bye bye
thorn spade
helloooo, long time not lurking here
ok so what do u think krills are
are they robots?? or stray animals?? or sumn
tender dune
to me it feels like they were tweaked and got corrupted, like they used to be light creatures but were corrupted because they sound slightly mechanical.
what do you think krills are?
hushed steeple
is there an official lore posted from Sky?
tender dune
pinned messages the canon doc
wispy canopy
Hey giys what's the topic
thin dirge
Chat died when I left earlier somehow, oof
Higlights of the previous topic: Me having a big brain moment realizing the Orbit may be part of the Megabird's butt-
thin dirge
Idk, it was just a funny thought, lol. Though it could be true... If the Megabird swallows us up, then where do we get back out?
kind bobcat
somewhere outside orbit
thin dirge
Eh, it's just a dumb theory that's meant to be joke, lol
boreal nebula
About Eden. I was wondering what is the lore opinion about the last falling constructions before seeing the floating city
It looks so much (maybe too much) like the top levels of the Vault we witnessed
short owl
Butterfly, I reccomend looking at an old concept picture. Let me find it.
thin dirge
I did see the old concept art?
boreal nebula
But after we finish the Vault we find ourselves in another point of the Vault tower, where the elevator is still broken
There is still the broken diamond above the elevator platform and the previous floors/level looked alittle bit too spiritual
Very much cosmic like, wide without physical bounderies
thin dirge
Hmmm... I could check the video of the ending, but I haven't finished Eden yet tho I have watched the ending before
short owl
There's one where Megabird looks like a squid
thin dirge
Oh, yeah, someone mentioned the Megabird looked like an octopus
short owl
And souls very much enter, and exit... but almost looking like it's backwards???
but that very much looked like souls get eaten and pooped out
thin dirge
So I was right! >:O
boreal nebula
Sort of like we get closer to the most spiritual place on Earth(of Sky), like the extra dimensions we met the Elders each time
So I got a bit interested in a thought... is the Elders Stones (after the Whale saves us) the real top of the Vault (in the present/the physical world?
AND are the lower floors (where physical walls are still visiblel of the Vault kindof like the memory-lantern (holocrons, if you're a StarWars fan) of what used to be the Vault, before Eden consequences on it
thin dirge
Hmm... Interesting... Though the Vault by design was meant to appear spiritual and reflective, since each level represents a certain stage of life, day, and of civilisation
It could just be the very design of the Vault that makes it spiritual, because of what its meant to represent symbolically.
kind bobcat
Hello
About the vault.
Personally, i think vault level 2 to the summit is a projection.
the elder shrine is a projection or recreation of the actual shrines in the eden castle.
thin dirge
Well, there are parts that do indeed look like projections
kind bobcat
Everything looked like projections in vault.
thin dirge
Well, there are solid parts like platforms and stuff. But everything else aside from that looks like projections
You know, like the platforms and ribcages from level 3
I mean, level 4?
Including the ground I guess being level 1?
kind bobcat
I theorize that the vault is a big VR room where they utilize lantern projections to create a dreamlike experience.
The vault scholars used them to study or brainstorm in peace.
We can still touch the objects, like platforms and/or lanterns
They just look different because of the projections
boreal nebula
Only thing that doesn't add up for me is the starting point of Eden (which would the an hall in the Vault building) does seems far away from the ending point of Eden (huge red diamond)
What I mean is by imagining Vault+Eden as one whole map
pure coyote
eden was probably the biggest realm?
kind bobcat
Yeah, in the orbit cutscene we see the vault shrine right under the castle
But in the eden map itself, vault is two maps away
We discussed about this before
Some thought the shrines in the orbit cutscene were thrones
pure coyote
someone said it could be a hallucination (the vault) but i like the projection idea too
lethal stump
i think the shrines we see throughout the game aren’t...there...or they aren’t meant to be there at least
but the « shrines » at the end in orbit are the real ones, they’re thrones, since it’s a castle
pure coyote
i’m wondering why the destruction is different in the realms (isle looks like a sandstorm, daylight seems like dark plants?, forest is rain etc) and also why the temples are all untouched
thin dirge
That's a good question. Though perhaps they actually weren't affected from the storm... The plants just simply popped up there because of the light. You know, like in the "The Light Created Darkness" theory. (That's what I'm calling it now)
@lethal stump Also, what do you think of the possibility of there being humans before the stars fell, and the humans being the other "kingdom" that the stars were trading with?
kind bobcat
It would be very unlikely that humans were present when the sky kingdom was still functional.
thin dirge
Hmm, maybe. Though Bricky did mention that there must be another "kingdom" that was trading with the stars
kind bobcat
And assuming they traded, they don't seem to have anything that appears to be human commodities.
thin dirge
Though there may be some proof, which are the Isle murals that depicts humanoid figures that are definitely not stars or spirits
kind bobcat
Humanoid figures?
thin dirge
kind bobcat
Those are the ancestors.
thin dirge
They're definitely not stars or spirits
kind bobcat
We can see murals of the ancestors in the ark.
thin dirge
The stars are seen faling from the sky, and aren't the ancestors the stars themselves? It just doesn't line up
kind bobcat
The ancestors are the spirits
It's what we call their species.
The stars are the elders
thin dirge
Wait, what?
kind bobcat
Ancestors = Spirits
Elders = Stars