#lore-discussion-spoilers

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lethal stump
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Sky is Journey’s spiritual successor, but lore-wise they are not connected

ruby cliff
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Oh, okay. Thanks!

static spoke
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We need to pin that

ruby cliff
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I was just snooping around both games, and their architecture was somewhat the same

static spoke
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Yeah

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They are both made by some of the same people

ruby cliff
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Especially Sky boats and journey's guardian

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What you can ride in Sky, will bonk you in Journey

lethal stump
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hm, i think Krills and Guardians are more similar than Boats and Guardians

ruby cliff
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Oh, I mean the texture design

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the way the guardian was built up, it's more on separated limbs and structured parts

lethal stump
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ahh, i was thinking in terms of mechanics

ruby cliff
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oh yeah, definitely.

lethal stump
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guardians are scarier because they don’t unsee you

ruby cliff
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tru

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krills are basically as stupid as the real krills

static spoke
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Tell that to my lost light

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😩

ruby cliff
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I got the hang of it my first time in sky, so it wasn't rlly a big problem

sinful gull
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krill that spots me: >:0 i see u!!!!!
me: moves two centimeters to the left
krill: :,,( whered u go??????

ruby cliff
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Krill: spots player, filled with anger, ready to explode raging
Sky kid: hides behind a small rock while playing the horn
Krill: Nuuu where did smol snack go? :<

static spoke
ruby cliff
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Guardian: TARGET IDENTIFIED

spark roost
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Any thoughts on why krills appear to make big honk right before ||they eat u|| but they can only find you with very limited sight and can't seem to hear sound at all? Like why do you think they make a sound before they attack aha

lethal stump
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no need for spoilers stickerHeart

ruby cliff
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hmm

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battle cry

static spoke
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Brick, you beat me..... again

spark roost
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Battle cry ey thats an interesting thought

ruby cliff
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I see no other explanation

spark roost
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I rlly have no idea myself, just found it curious

ruby cliff
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it's basically timed with their roar, so that's their battle cry/deep call

spark roost
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Yee

ruby cliff
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Oh, what if we had krill masks... and we deep call like that

spark roost
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Ok that would be epic

lethal stump
spark roost
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Thanks for the input btw! And oo yes

ruby cliff
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Just get behind random players and just shout_b pHelloKrill shout_a

spark roost
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No-pFIRE

ruby cliff
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Then everybody just drops down and spams play dead

spark roost
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Hahaha

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In Daylight Prairie

ruby cliff
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Moth: what a very peaceful ga--
Krill Mask: deep calls
Moth: disconnects

hoary anchor
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Found an image on concept art for the krill, and boy is it unsettling. Imagine if we had these instead of what came to be the current krill

static spoke
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The size is sort of frightening

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But the face is not

hoary anchor
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There’s just something about the human looking teeth, it’s odd

static spoke
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Yes

hoary anchor
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Just imagine that thing flying towards you with it’s mouth wide open

ruby cliff
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No use playing dead

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Ur as good as digested

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Imagine if those little arms could actually grab sky kids

analog sable
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Well, good luck to me sleeping

mild lark
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I don't think that concept art for krill.. that is a different creature

lethal stump
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it’s just « dark creature », not krill per se

mild lark
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Yeah

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Still I'm glad that isn't in the game

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Basically a dark version of tuna king

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cant help but notice the creature is swimming through cloud to hide... And then ambush our skykid.
Basically sharks

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The king's statue doesn't seem as thick as the concept art... Maybe they change the king to be same size as other elders?

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Because in concept art..
King's head is small while his body is wide ... Quite unbalanced.
Now maybe they have refined the king to be balanced.
Like come on. The statue look normal.
King concept art .. he just wide

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Because concept art follows the old story line where you will need to dodge king's spear..... And the prince exist.
So yeah for me I think king's original body might have changed

kind bobcat
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Well, it's a statue pEyes

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not the king itself

eager shore
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The old krill is just the Alaskan bull worm

true hearth
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Why is vault elder isnt kneeling nor bowing (to skykid?) in the vault cutscene?

lethal stump
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why do you think ?

true hearth
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Because she is a lot more knowledgeable than skykid and doesn't want to lower herself

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My theories are often weird so i love to read others instead

sinful anvil
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tmw you just realized the altar for prairie elder changed and u just go pEyes but shaking gif (i dont have nitro rip)

lethal stump
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oh yea, that’s what happens after the cutscene

short owl
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Hey guys
if the end isn't ready yet
How big do you think it's gonna be

lethal stump
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big, and a long time from now

short owl
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I don't think it's a cutscene. Thosse would be relatively easy to add.
TGC says no fighting, so it's probably not a battle

lethal stump
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im betting it’s a new realm or a major addition to the current ones

short owl
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I wonder if it's a second version of each realm

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though that would be a lot to add

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course, a lot to add would explain why it will take some time to add to the game XD

willow shoal
lethal stump
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that’s a possibility, many people think so

deft stump
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Hi

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The golden child is the prince?

willow shoal
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omg, it’s skykid itself?

deft stump
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Idk?

willow shoal
kind bobcat
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translation?

deft stump
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I can't read chinese wwww

willow shoal
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Translation:

The long darkness passed away, and the descendants of light finally woke up in their hearts. After embracing the original self, the traveler burst out his most dazzling light and headed to the Galaxy under the guidance of the ancestors and the white bird. On the journey of rebirth, you will reunite with your friends who once walked side by side in the form of souls, and converge into the stars of the sky; those souls that have been rescued by you will also wait for you at the end of the journey and bid you farewell.

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so this could be a canon then?

lethal stump
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What’s it from ?

willow shoal
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this is chinese server official site

short owl
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Gotta be careful with chinese server cannon

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it may or may not be represenative of global cannon

lethal stump
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as in lore, not the weapon :p

short owl
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The weapon too

deft stump
lethal stump
willow shoal
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i think the global lore and the chinese lore are the same

short owl
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The group in charge of chinese server is a different company, and is free to make any changes they want

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TGC gives the company what they have, but if the chinese company wants a change then SkyShrug

deft stump
willow shoal
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so this could only be a theory?

lethal stump
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Yeah. Take chinese server lore with a grain or two of salt

short owl
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Chinese rules make it so TGC can't really opperate in China. To get around this, TGC has partnered with a chinese company to host the game. But that partnership...

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not exactly something that gives TGC control

willow shoal
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Before devs confirm who that glowing man is, we can just guess without any canon about thatSkyScared

sharp lichen
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It says that the stars have faded

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Implying that it’s set billions of years in the future

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Everything is a ridiculously advanced technology

lethal stump
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well we see that stars in game and stars irl are different

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the stars in game are legit people

mild lark
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Irl stars don't just fade.. they explode..
And then it will form a new star... Perhaps brighter. Or form a black hole..

primal saffron
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I think it's reasonable to say that the glowing man was the original ourselve. Because the light wings we collect are the souls of people in Eden.When we lost all wings in Eden we also lost our souls,and with that glowing man, we have a soul, and we can be reborn

mild lark
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For the star to fade.. like actually fade..
It need more than a trillion years...
And at that time the universe is experiencing heat death.. where star are fading actually fading and no new star can be born (because they dont explode). So yeah. Universe is just an endless dark cold misery at that point

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Now I just realized what I said has nothing to do with lore

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Oh well

sinful anvil
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(so china doesnt approve of dead things, but whether these are spirits are debatable to begin with. ancestor spirits can be ghosts but also imprints of memories. they may not be dead but just ,,, bones or ashes)

willow shoal
lethal stump
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It’s near impossible to reach. My friends and I have tried

willow shoal
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yeah, the Home’s wind barrier

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but is it isle?

lethal stump
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No, it’s where the opening cutscene takes place

willow shoal
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omg

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so those opening murals are on that faraway land

lethal stump
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Yep !

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Pines went there once

willow shoal
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could it be reached last year??

lethal stump
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It could be reached before table glitching was nerfed

hushed steeple
willow shoal
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I regret not going there during GratitudeSkyScared

mild lark
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Dang you guys are extreme

willow shoal
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okay, does anyone know the relation between light and flame?

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or is there any canon about that?

lethal stump
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Have you read the canon lore doc ?

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all canon information is there

willow shoal
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yeah, but only read few of them

deep zephyr
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womder if elders have gender👀

lethal stump
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I suggest reading the whole thing

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Nope, elders don’t have gender, says so in the canon doc

sinful gull
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No characters in Sky have genders

lethal stump
sinful gull
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But you can headcanon as you wish.

lethal stump
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It’s all up to your interpretation as to what their gender and pronouns are :>

sinful gull
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Yep! TGC left it up to the player to determine

hushed steeple
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They don't have gender canonically ,but we gave some names to them (fan made)
Like :- prairie dady,forest mom, wasteland uncle, vault aunt

pale kestrel
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Forest a girl is imo

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Same with Vault

sinful anvil
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im still troubled that fan made names are gendered

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and have been for a long time. it’s deeply embedded to the point that i cant refer to them as “they” and not have to explain

pale kestrel
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But isle elder is definitely male

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Seriously he has a beard guys

hushed steeple
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So what

sinful gull
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eh

lethal stump
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There are women with beards

deep zephyr
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lmao

pale kestrel
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Yeah...

lethal stump
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Even then, gender expression doesn’t equal gender

pale kestrel
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But that's not normal xD

hushed steeple
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Anyway let's not gets deep in this?

pale kestrel
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^

lethal stump
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even if someone looks masculine does not mean they are male, and vice versa

sinful gull
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normal?

deep zephyr
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stop lol

hushed steeple
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Yeah^^

sinful gull
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alright alright

pale kestrel
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There are women with beards
But that's not normal xD

lethal stump
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Im literally explaining the basics of gender, but ok >_>

tender dune
pale kestrel
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Sorry if that looked confusing

hushed steeple
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🧇

deep zephyr
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btw i have found something ,and which makes me think that the valley elders, actually, they are the same person👀

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anyone has the same idea ?

hushed steeple
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SharepEyes

deep zephyr
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i lost the pics but if u guys can use the glitch to enter the valley cg u can see that ,the right hands of the eeeshort hair and the left hand of kakashi are not real, they are artificial

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when the cg begin, elders stand as if there is only one person

hushed steeple
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They also have one eye

tender dune
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Yep

hushed steeple
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One name

deep zephyr
willow shoal
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so u think in valley cg, one valley elder splits up to two ?

deep zephyr
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not in valley cg

willow shoal
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actual?

tender dune
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Yeah

willow shoal
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interesting

tender dune
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We think valley was one and split in half

pearl void
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Hey people wassup

deep zephyr
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but it still remain to be found out why it splits ?

tender dune
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No

willow shoal
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in all info i can find now, only one said “she” when describing valley elder

tender dune
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My personal theory says they might have split to compensate for isle elder not being there

willow shoal
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except this, are “all” or “twin”

deep zephyr
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oof

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some ppl argues that one represents the force who are for the king to have a war with light creature while the other one represents those ppl who are against to have a war in kingdom

hushed steeple
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Well guys what i found 2 days ago that we can't use SkyGoTeam when we have 0 flapping power(even not faded) regardless of wherever we're(even in home)

tender dune
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I think even the candle u take out has no flame right?

hushed steeple
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I think even the candle u take out has no flame right?
We can still pop our candle and a flame still on it

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Just we can't useSkyGoTeam

deep zephyr
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?its unreasonable

tender dune
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Ah okay, cuz when you're without light (faded) the candle is empty

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And u cant use instruments

hushed steeple
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Well at that moment i was not faded

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I was in homepFIRE

tender dune
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likewisepFIRE

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Interesting why that emote wont workSkyGoTeam

deep zephyr
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sometimes evem if i didnt click that emote, my character still lift the candle, idk why

tender dune
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When you flip through the emotes quickly you end up pressing that emote (happens to me). If you scroll slower you wont trigger that

hushed steeple
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That's saying you're scrolling emote menu🤣

deep zephyr
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uuugh

willow shoal
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maybe don’t have enough power to raise candles

hushed steeple
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Hm Johny ...👀

deep zephyr
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so will that(scrolling menu ) work to do the emote?when 0flapping power ?

hushed steeple
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Nope

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It's just disabled

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We need at least some flapping power to use that

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And ya I've a question why they removed the light circle that used to appear when two or more players using SkyGoTeam togetherpSquint stickerMad

deep zephyr
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ohno i love that circle

willow shoal
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don’t make phones melt themselves because it’s too bright and hotSkyLOL SkyLOL

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the shape of light

hushed steeple
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It's the same light circle we can see around wing light/shiny boi

tender dune
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0 flame (even when i play the harp there is no harp😂 )

willow shoal
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really really huge

hushed steeple
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Elder

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That's Bigger than those two we see in forest and wasteland?

tender dune
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I think its the same one

hushed steeple
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Ya

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But. Grown up

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?

tender dune
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But those were far while the one during ascending is closer to us

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Which is why it looks bigger

hushed steeple
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Hmm

tender dune
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We've never been that close

willow shoal
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it has scales in lines haha

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This fish is the kingdom's food for a yearSkyLOL SkyLOL stickerYum

snow void
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uhh curious; on the door of eden, all the elders faces are there, right? but there's only five- why isnt the isle of dawn elder there?

lethal stump
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Well, originally Isle wasn’t seen as a « real » realm and more of a tutorial realm, so the elder mask wasn’t put there
However, many people theorize that the Isle elder became an enemy of the others, thus was ostracized and removed from the eden door (and its also why his mask is broken)
but it’s up to you if you wanna believe that or not stickerHeart

snow void
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:O i see!! thnk u! thts interesting to know skkskd

lethal stump
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are you new to lore ?

snow void
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yea jkdsjd

lethal stump
snow void
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omg theres a doc

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will read

golden cave
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I think I’ve read some lore before...that Isle Elder don’t like what the other Elder does....consuming the dark stone for more power...

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Maybe I just trying remembering...

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Yeah it’s look like the isle elder became the enemy for different mindset...

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And plus, sometime the older person irl does know what is good for us and what is not...

autumn basin
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Woahhh

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I never knew there was lore :0

lethal stump
autumn basin
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Ah i did! Thank you though

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Im currently reading through the confirmed lores pin

lethal stump
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good !

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study hard :p

autumn basin
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:D

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Whats darkstone?

lethal stump
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Darkstone is a concept thing, it’s basically the raw form of power diamonds

autumn basin
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Ah okay

lethal stump
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which gets refined and processed into
well
power diamonds

autumn basin
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Im guessing power diamonds are the blue things on doors?

lethal stump
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we don’t know if darkstone is in game or not

autumn basin
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Ah okay

gilded fossil
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/hmm

autumn basin
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Thanks!

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The lore seems interesting

gilded fossil
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/what sort of things have we seen that's possible to a dark stone?

autumn basin
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It says that the king can be seen in the credits and door before office, where?

gilded fossil
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It says that the king can be seen in the credits and door before office, where?
@autumn basin /"okay so anything in the office is not considered canon so mind that

autumn basin
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Ah okay

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Thanks!

lethal stump
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the king in the credits ? what ?

gilded fossil
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/okay so i rewwatch the credit just to take a screenshot but no only see megan in there

autumn basin
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Ah megans there?

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Also i think i read wrong

lethal stump
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yes
theres a picture of her in the lore moff doc

autumn basin
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Couldve just been talking about megan

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:0

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Ohh the yellow thing

gilded fossil
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/guys did megan create the world or was she create along side the world

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/how godly is megan

lethal stump
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we don’t know

autumn basin
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Is the king apart of eden?

lethal stump
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that’s for you to decide

gilded fossil
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Is the king apart of eden?
@autumn basin /i think the king isn't a part of eden, but he sorta just walks in and take it

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/founder's keeper's-king said

opaque mango
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what is a megan

hushed steeple
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Megan is fan made name of megabird azz

gilded fossil
tender dune
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any new lore theories?

mild lark
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I got a new theory but it was unlogical and conflicting with valley realm

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Yeah it was not a good theory when I think about it back...

hushed steeple
tender dune
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pEyes where tho

hushed steeple
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Idk

round river
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That's interesting
Can you send the twitter link Amio?

hushed steeple
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Sure

round river
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Thanks👍🏻😆

mild lark
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What does that symbol mean?

hushed steeple
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There are more

round river
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He said "abandoned temple" and on the first pic from his post looks like in wasteland

hushed steeple
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Oh i can't read the language

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The 1st pic is in wasteland temple

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Are these in oobpkrilleye

round river
hushed steeple
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Yeah

round river
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There's a barrier up there iirc so probably they use rocket
It looks like they land in hole above door to vault🤔
I want to go check it but maybe tomorrow

mild lark
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Hey guys do you think skykid see the world just like normal human would? Eyes that detects light?

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Skykid eyes is glowing

short owl
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Smilie, a theory doesn't need to work out to be fun

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Most of what I generate are crackpot theories. of course that gave me Mind Control Megan, but...

kind bobcat
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Skykids dont actually have eyes

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Or eyes that work pEyes

blissful depot
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their eyes r shut 😔

round river
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Even when they wear mask their eyes actually closed

tender dune
round river
gilded fossil
tender dune
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no not that i dont believe it i just never noticed

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i always see the outside mask

gilded fossil
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/their eyes are always close, then why they like light so much

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/heat?

short owl
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They seem to cary a light within them that has a little peak hole in the chest. Perhaps thhey're busy feeding that so they can continue eating from the light they cary?

gilded fossil
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/why do skids sound like sth from widelife channel

short owl
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Amino I may be completely out there but that last picture you posted looked less like writing and more like a circuit

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Actually... they all kinda do

gilded fossil
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Amino I may be completely out there but that last picture you posted looked less like writing and more like a circuit
@short owl /oh yeah you're right

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/all the so called writing all have been small and short

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/*amio tho

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/or drawings

short owl
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yall you don't usually need to ping or quote me

gilded fossil
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/ah sorry

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/note

short owl
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Hey Jennifer, off topic, but why do you start your messages with slash?

gilded fossil
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/feels like im doing an action of talking rather than just typing haha

short owl
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exists for that

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... hold on

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/me exists for that

gilded fossil
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/null do not steal

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/:VVVVV

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/:

short owl
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I'm not stealing, I'm saying there's a command specifically for making things into a command

gilded fossil
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/ah!

short owl
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If you start it with /me everything gets all slanted

gilded fossil
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/owo

short owl
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ofc... not sure it works on mobile... /nick command certainly doesn't

gilded fossil
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/guys im noticing the pic by amio looks sorta like 2 humans dancing

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/although it's a bit different from how a "human" is drawn in murals

round river
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It looks more like a code🤔

untold wave
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I thought it was more like a code. Like... maybe the temples was run by technology that let them do may other things you know? The ones in the wasteland mostly were destroyed. And if these are in oobs, is it somehow connect to the elders perhaps? Like maybe giving them the light restores their power and gives them the ability to properly reactivate the temples eventually?

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I haven't been to too many oobs tbh so I dunno

boreal nebula
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So close, yet so far...SkyDontGo

celest turtle
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Do you guys think there will be more maps in sky in future ?

boreal nebula
tall ingot
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Maybe Eden is just literally the L a m p for the moths

short owl
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I believe it was called a beacon in the concepts so...

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yeah that makes a lot of sense

boreal nebula
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Do you guys think there will be more maps in sky in future ?
@celest turtle I hope so pWow

hushed steeple
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A place of science can't have a spiritual symbol? SkyLOL )
Not really actually

celest turtle
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@boreal nebula do you know what make me think of that ?

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The icon of constellation at the home !

boreal nebula
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Sorry .What makes me think of what?😅

celest turtle
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@boreal nebula made me think there will be more maps in future

boreal nebula
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Aah. I just wish there could be... 🤞

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Running the same areas is nice, I miss the a bit the thrill of exploration

celest turtle
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True

hushed steeple
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Imagine there'll be new 6 maps and you've to candle run thru allpFIRE

short owl
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What if instead you get a completely different currency

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There would be normal candles, used for cosmetics and spells. Ac which are used for wing buffs, and dark candles, which are used to open up more areas of the final maps and learn more about the spirits and elders

orchid field
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Depend on the difficulty of collecting new candles, That could be an evil idea😆

hushed steeple
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Theory: What if the golden wasteland was supposed to be like the hidden forest? I’ve seen some areas that look super similar, and it has a similar feel. I’m not sure about this theory.

sly kestrel
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They use the same factory but they aren’t the same place 🔫

short owl
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What if we are living eggs

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Our job is to cary around a baby light being, but light beings need to be socialized from before they can safely leave their shells

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So we were created to care for the lil baby light until it's ready to stand on its own

hushed steeple
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JaypSquint pSquint pSquint
No gunpSquint pSquint pSquint

agile galleon
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Are we allowed to talk about some OC’s backstories here I’ve drawn from the fanart?

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Because I’m tying it into something deep.

sly kestrel
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Choices pHelloKrill

agile galleon
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Ok.

tender dune
short owl
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Only fire based violence in Sky.

tender dune
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i was also bored and so i counted the weapons/shields in wasteland
First Area:
2 spears

Graveyard:
1 Sword

Battlefield:
6 Sun shield (one is broken)
6 Diamond shield
9 Swords
11 Spears

Temple:
1 Spear
1 Sun shield

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strange that we dont see the diamond shields at eden gate but we see those dual swords and 2 sun shields..

midnight epoch
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I was wondering about the physical aspect of the world of Sky: do you think there is a vast land space with deserts and mountains? or is it just floating islands connected by clouds

tender dune
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i think that golden wasteland is a vast area since its below the clouds

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everything else was on top

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valley was a metropolis but its destroyed and full of snow

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Sky's world is definitely much bigger, i mean we only go from isle to eden and even tho its a big zone its still not the whole earth/world

short owl
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There's clearly somewhere where ancestors can come from out there

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The names of the isle spirits suggests that much

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But what that place looks like can only be described in the form of a headcannon

sinful anvil
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can elders interact with common mortals?

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like mortal human beings

lethal stump
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Humans or Ancestors ?

sinful anvil
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i think ancestors might b in universe humans

lethal stump
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i mean, it’d make sense if they could interact with what seems to be their subjects

sinful anvil
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i was wondering if they’re like gods who answer prayers without showing faces or they literally involve in their subjects’ lives, e.g. do the twins participate in races by watching over them and granting victories or do they literally oversee the spectacle so you can see them behind you?

lethal stump
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imagine being racing and trying to ignore the two gods just levitating behind you

sinful anvil
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… hm yeah if they literally watch over thats an unfair distraction

tender dune
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theyd probs race with them

sinful anvil
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so i would say just watch over silently like a legit god?

lethal stump
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imo, i think the elders lost most of their godliness when they fell

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they might’ve been gods in orbit, but when they fell they became more like mortals

sinful anvil
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makes sense

lethal stump
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demigods at most
they can bleed, but don’t die from old age if that makes sense ? the devs said the elders are ancient so i was thinking they couldn’t die from age

sinful anvil
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by ‘fell’ do you mean the time when they built kingdoms or like fell and waiting for skykids

lethal stump
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i mean the fall in the intro

sinful anvil
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they’re demigods already??!

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i mean the fall in the intro
ohh makes sense

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i thought they are gods in a polythestic way

lethal stump
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wdym ?

tender dune
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?

sinful anvil
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i thought elders are like gods

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polgthestic gods

lethal stump
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so do i, but i think falling demoted them

short owl
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how many sports do you think Valley has that are specifically designed to give advantage to short people so that the twins can actually have a challenge every once in a while?

sinful anvil
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me, a shorty: good

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imagine others going “i dont fight short ppl; they’re unsuitable for my height” and the twins going “you’re weak

short owl
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Also if you manage to beat Samekh while they're playing fair, it's kind of a big deal

sinful anvil
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(so samekh vs mantis lords is exciting bc both advocate for fairness)

short owl
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Samekh often have to play in a way that gives advantage to their opponent. If they don't have to do this, they get particularly excited. If they don't do this and loose it's a HUGE deal

sinful anvil
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guess they hate cheaters too

if they detect one in a championship (and they always always do cuz being god is like that), they would find a way to mess up their day by giving bad luck or something

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why do they have to play in a way that gives advantage to opponent? is it that they do this when the other is a child or smth?

short owl
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Ancestors are smaller, younger, and uusually not given the same advantages they are, so only like the top of the top actually are able to reach their level

sinful anvil
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ohh

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wondering if elders can shapeshift into mortal form to fight at the same plane

tender dune
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its not lore related but might be reika poop related pEyes gib me ur opinion on these sounds i randomly hear

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the skids sounds or my friends sounds suddenly go high pitched when they honk

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i heard so many high pitched sounds recently, wondering if its the poop

lethal stump
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it’s a bug

tender dune
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pThink okies

short owl
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I kinda like bug beep

hushed steeple
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This is not lore related but the area might be worth exploring, the last bell is at the waterfall amidst the clouds in sanctuary island

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There appears to not be anything else beside the bell fragment though

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Nevermind this

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I think the prince persuaded his subjects (the elders) to leave the sky and construct their own kingdom/civilization without the control of the megabird, "But darkness came, and the stars fell" refers to the initial ambition and hubris the elders and the king/prince possessed, now we are the remnants of the prince, placed in a vessel to perpetually return the stars whose lights were submerged under darkness, but we can not ever accomplish this task. It is like an allegory to the myth of sisyphus.

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Random theory of the day

sinful anvil
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is it me or skykids dont look at elders in orbit as they do at wls, other players, and spirits?

sly lake
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off topic, but has anyone thought that maybe krill are ghosts? theres an awful lot of skeletons around where they're located. since skykids can see spirits, maybe thats why they see krills pEyes

hushed steeple
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What I think is krills are in sky kingdom from beginning...
As darkness is a natural part of sky

analog sable
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Wait wait

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So the valley elders

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Are one? pEyes

hushed steeple
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It's a theory

analog sable
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:O

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So that's why the fan name is the same for both?

hushed steeple
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The valley elders are two sides of the same coin, i think

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A GAME THEO....pFIRE

lethal stump
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Canonically speaking, they’ve always been twins

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but headcanon wise go crazy

analog sable
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....fair

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Ah shoot Amio, I could've finished that for you stickerGloomy

sinful anvil
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i thought canonly they’re always separate?

hushed steeple
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?

lethal stump
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Yeah, canonically they were always separate

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they were never one

hushed steeple
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Separate as in different physical entities?

lethal stump
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i’d imagine such

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they might share a braincell though

hushed steeple
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Yes, a hive mind

lethal stump
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i meant it more as in theyre kinda dumb twins but that works too lmao

hushed steeple
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Oh

sinful anvil
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miss me w “hive mind” they clearly dont agree w each other when going at the light in valley cutscene

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kakashi is a jerk

hushed steeple
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True, I mean if they have a hive mind, they wouldn't even fight, they cant fight because they already know what each other are planning

sinful anvil
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all elders know each other so

hushed steeple
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it was meant to be a joke to accompnay bricky's statement

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I will post a more serious theory later, stay tuned

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Or attuned...

sinful anvil
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[tries to not crack a HK Godmaster joke]

river yacht
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do skykids eat

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do they photosynthesize

orchid field
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Based on the part we hurt by rain, I feel like we are some sort of pollenSkyLOL trying to float and got hit by the rain

river yacht
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some water hurts us but some water does not hurt us

sinful anvil
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do we sleep

hushed steeple
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Maybe when not online

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You kid would get up when you load the game

river yacht
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we sleep???

hushed steeple
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Well I haven't seen anyone sleep really XD

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Except if they are using emotes

sinful anvil
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askde from lying down

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if u go afk long enough they lie down

hushed steeple
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Maybe then they sleep

lethal stump
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the biology of skids is really up to interpretation, there’s no canon about it

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aside from the fact we aren’t Elder kids

river yacht
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if i can become an elder kid I can bully the smaller skykids and take their lunch money

sinful anvil
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elder kids wont look like skykids

lethal stump
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elders were never kids

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physically, at least

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we don’t know about mentally

warm umbra
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Isle is a starter point, like a birth, which transitions into a happy, cheerful prairie of youth, which then darkens into a more mature, more depressing forest, then a exhilarated jubilance of the 20s-30s, then the midlife crisis of wasteland, then reflection through vault, then -

lethal stump
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yep ! the realms were designed like stages of life ^^

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eden is meant to be death after old age (vault)

warm umbra
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yes

short owl
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Personally I think that because Samekh are soooo close and inherently spposed to be a part of a hive mind thank you Megan that it wouldn't be surprising if even in their low light state, they retained some ability to skim the surface of eachother's minds

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Like they aren't fully aware of what the other is thinking and they have their own individuality, but on some levell they know what the other is thinking

kindred aspen
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whats the hot take of the day everyone

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personally i think we should talk about what even happens in valley

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what IS the citadel

short owl
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In Valley you are pushed through in a way that allows everything to look perfect even though things are clearly not

mild lark
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Wait skykid eyes are closed?

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how is that possible

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How can skykid see?

kind bobcat
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Well, Sky has magic rocks that can make everything fly, floating islands, candles that yeet you outside of time and space, flying shrimp and big mantas that should be in prison for kidnapping.

mild lark
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Using thermal imaging? Lol

kind bobcat
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Maybe they dont need to see.

mild lark
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So they are blind?

boreal basin
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Anyone have a any idea what kind of spirits come the 20th?

mild lark
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Umm

hushed steeple
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Sky kids dont need to sleep, but they pretend to be tired anyways and yawn

celest spoke
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If skids are blind, how do they know if krill light is red or blue?

torn iris
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@celest spoke krill make sound when they spot a sky kid

sinful anvil
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do skykids match criteria for psychopath? if that topic is allowed
not much understanding of emotions but can copy it to the point of utilizing it for social, some signs of ego if looked closely,

lethal stump
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you can’t diagnose children with psychopathy

sinful anvil
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ah.

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wait is it limited to age?

lethal stump
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children and teens commonly act like an adult psychopath would simply because they don’t have the life experience to act any differently

sinful anvil
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well makes sense

lethal stump
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most personality disorders cannot be diagnosed until 18 years or older

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otherwise many many 5 year olds would be diagnosed as psycho/sociopaths simply because they act like 5 year olds

sinful anvil
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... ive heard about a child girl who is close to psychopathy but she got socialized into being kind again but thats another story

hushed steeple
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The leitmotif of the valley is duality, a juxtaposition almost. the statue of the valley elders are split in the middle, the valley segment divides upper layer cities with lower commons, the two distinct racetracks that converge into the same grand stadium. What is the significance of two, well we see that valley is the last realm not affected directly by the incident occurred in eden. It could be that the duality represented here emphasize to the two opposing ideologies and ultimately the triumph of one that leads the elders to descend into darkness, hence "Valley of triumph". This characterization is further represented in the map layout, the two paths, flight (the hope of reunion and returning to the skies -- unity, connected) and slide (seeking/accelerating into the unknown -- ambition, indifferent) converges into a slide track before reaching the stadium. Thatgamecompany could simply made the flying track end through its own track to the stadium, after all there is virtually no effective way to coordinate the start of the two race such that their unified ending section is accurate, i believe the developers purposely created the landscape to reflect upon the story, and fate of the stars. The last interesting resemblance is valley elders -- Samekh cutscene, the constant challenge to retrieve the fire from the player, the opposing forces strife to reach the fire before the other and fight over it. What is the symbolism and importance of the fire, well that a story for another day.

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@sinful anvil

lethal stump
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... ive heard about a child girl who is close to psychopathy but she got socialized into being kind again but thats another story
that’s literally just how teaching a child works, but w/e

sinful anvil
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no its a literal story, not teaching

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so thats my only objection

hushed steeple
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The lore chat was suppose to be dead so i can say, "did you suffer in silence?" to pale

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..

sinful anvil
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oh no wonder i was like why am i pinged

hushed steeple
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Sorry, i had to make a HK joke

sinful anvil
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but to the leitmotif big agree

lethal stump
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im talking about the child being socialized
thats how raising a child works
empathy, impulse control, and many others aren’t inherent and have to be taught
but anyways. this isn’t psychology-discussion-spoilers

sinful anvil
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no its not just a story about a child being socialized i forgot to mention its an extremely screwed up story so anyway

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tmw something from highschool english class sticks with you to the present

hushed steeple
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What is pwow

lethal stump
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^ this

hushed steeple
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What is the p for?

lethal stump
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no clue

hushed steeple
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Ok then

cold steppe
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stands for pines/ash, who is the one who created it

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pines made the emoji

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any emoji with a name that starts with the lowercase p in the Sky server is created by Pines

sinful anvil
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Samekh’s manners are interesting. In the cutscene, Onigiri kneels on one knee and beckons for the fire: “Please hand it to me.” Kakashi just leans over for the fire, like “Hand it over to me.” But Onigiri’s second attempt, though out of their own interest, is still gentlemanly in a way: their paddle moves further behind their back.

I don’t like to admit they are so different that there is no way they can cooperate, but the way they command the player is stark contrast to each other.

cold steppe
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...I'm assuming Onigiri is SkyElderValley2

sinful anvil
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yes exactly

cold steppe
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it's strangely fitting and I don't know how I feel about it

sinful anvil
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oni-san’s second attempt ie putting the paddle behind their back ,,, beats me bc obviously it makes them slower

i know it doesnt mean theyre like that normally bc this moment is unusual, but im just not sure

pseudo lagoon
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i dont think sky kids need to see, the game is quite spiritual, so i think they are able to sense things around them from heightened five senses, they dont need to see to know exactly what is going on around them

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and with krills, they can probably feel the darker energy spike, meaning it has spotted them

sinful anvil
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if skykids really cant see im starting to question daylight prairie

willow shoal
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i just knew that the cape has no shadow as it’s made of light

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but is it made of pure light?

lethal stump
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possibly

willow shoal
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if it is made of pure light, why it doesn’t vanish when skykid loses all light?

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if it isn’t made of pure light, it will be darkness or something?

short owl
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Well... I don't think all light is drained when we go dark. Our WL still shine bright once knocked out

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Perhaps when knocked out, our darkness spreads through the cape in an effort to protect the extra light food sources

hushed steeple
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We can regenerate light, sky childs have some sort of internal energy that always tends to a particular state

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Our equilibrium state is when we lose fire essentially

wintry tiger
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Well

hushed steeple
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Bricky how is the theory wiki going

wintry tiger
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When your soul light starts to drain

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Then comes back up

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Your flame won't

lethal stump
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Coming along well

hushed steeple
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Can you reveal some progress, like the roadmap or something

lethal stump
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We’re still gathering and consolidating information

hushed steeple
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Can i contribute?

static spoke
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Who is we?

cold steppe
#

The Collective™

static spoke
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Hm

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That was from a book 🧐

lethal stump
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our group is already as big as it needs to be, 11 people

hushed steeple
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Rip

kind bobcat
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The Lore Vault™

lethal stump
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Indeed

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The Vault of Lore

static spoke
#

Disney Vault

lethal stump
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Disneyland pFIRE

static spoke
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Disneyworld

hushed steeple
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The vault of vaults

static spoke
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What if there is a secret Lore vault in the game of Sky hidden somewhere?

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👀stickerShock

sly kestrel
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no

willow shoal
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every life will remain its skeletons if it dies improper

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so how this manta died in vault

gilded fossil
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/i think he was dissected

deft stump
odd siren
#

I have to read this entire channel I love lore and I’ve always wanted explanations of stuff that goes down in sky

lethal stump
tender dune
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/i think he was dissected
Makes sense in the name of science pWow

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Tho its a very random place to dissect it at😂

rancid onyx
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we know mantas have some significance to the sky kingdom

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since theres a dead one in the steps to the weird stadium in valley

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before the flight race

safe osprey
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sacrifice the mantas to the gods

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anyways sup y'all what's shaking

rancid onyx
#

the lore in this game is insane

gilded fossil
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/my theory suggest that mantas since the elders cant create regular mantas made vault mantas from parts from regular ones fused with a jellyfish

prime cipher
#

My perspective of cosmic mantas in vault changed when the cosmic manta call spirit is named "memory whisperer"

gilded fossil
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/wait really?

prime cipher
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Yepyep

safe osprey
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ghost mantas

rancid onyx
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what does that MEAN

gilded fossil
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/guys did the elders dissect the manta to pickle it

prime cipher
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It got me thinking that what if cosmic mantas are also dead
But like memories kind of dead..(?)

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Tbh idk how to explain hAHAHAH

gilded fossil
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/well vault was a place to perserve memories

safe osprey
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my friend said according to the vault mural it seems that they summoned the ghost mantas into existence

tender dune
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since theres a dead one in the steps to the weird stadium in valley
There is?? I never noticed stickerGloomy

safe osprey
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those runes might be similar to the ones on the bells in prairie

lethal stump
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that thing on the valley steps always looked more like a bird

tender dune
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^

safe osprey
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when you spin those bells the runes work and basically summon the mantas/light creatures

tender dune
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They mean the ice bird??

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Those spinning bells are prayer bells

safe osprey
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so the scholars in the mural summon the ghost mantas

gilded fossil
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/summon

tender dune
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The inscription of vault has the elder summoning the elder manta while one of the lesser ppl summon a cosmic manta

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They appear to show up from the lanterns

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Look at top right

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Is my message reaching you guys?? My wifi suddenly went wonky..

gilded fossil
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/yea, but i think it's like

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/not summon

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/but they use genetic stuff to make mantas from the materials in the diamond thingy

hushed steeple
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Give your eyes some restpFIRE

lethal stump
prime cipher
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Damn that looks interesting..
Anyone got translation for that?

lethal stump
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Nope

prime cipher
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Aw

lethal stump
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we don’t know what any text in sky says

gilded fossil
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/passage 3

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/1 of the thing is "see

lethal stump
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the actual 3rd passage or the one labelled passage 3

gilded fossil
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/the one labelled pasage 3

lethal stump
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okay

hushed steeple
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The constellation. With three skychildren.

round river
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A megabird with 3 skykids 🤔
Someone did say something about it but i forgot

sly kestrel
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It’s an old model from beta
In the old old home, there was this shrine where u unlocked ur friend abilities and upgraded friend stuff from this rock, that triple skykid thingy was one of the models used

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At least, that’s what I remember

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Could be wrong tho

gilded fossil
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/i need new lore stuff. this season isnt even over

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/where's my skid lore

gleaming flicker
#

Plants are confirmed to be dark stone btw

kind bobcat
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what pEyes

willow shoal
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yes
now the “Darkness” in game is plant, in beta version its called “Dark stone”

wispy canopy
#

Hey guys what's the topic

lethal stump
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what dark material is called, canonically

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In the quests it’s just called « Darkness »

willow shoal
wispy canopy
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So the material used to make diamonds is made from a raw material which is darkness where we now know it to be the plants that we melt, correct?

lethal stump
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maybe

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darkness ≠ darkstone

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and we see in game, « Light miners » which may mean that there’s something other than darkstone at play here

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darkstone is a concept after all

willow shoal
#

darkness is more likely to be type of power or energy, but dark stone is a kind of matter made of darkness

willow shoal
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yeah

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Forest temple machine and Vault memory cubes

wispy canopy
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Darks tone came from a raw material, miners could have just needed materials for ships seeing the boats and structures require stonelike material, the raw material could've been grown and used and prob at one point got out of hand and began to infect sky slowly

willow shoal
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i don’t know how darkness appears

lethal stump
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i don’t think it infected sky, devs said that sky had a « rich ecology of light and dark »
the darkness was likely there from the beginning

willow shoal
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so megan created both light and dark?

lethal stump
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if she created anything, she might not be a creation god

wispy canopy
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I think what bricky means is that darkness is just light in nature, they're both natural elements that are in sky

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So darkness wasn't like a creation from a mo ster it just... Exists, like light

willow shoal
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i guess if darkness has owner, it may be time

wispy canopy
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It's the people or whoever who prob decided to put it to gd use, question remains what kind of diamond is the eye of eden

willow shoal
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As time goes by, the places without cleaning or lives will grow darkness

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that’s my theory about dark

wispy canopy
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That'd makes sense

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I think it's hasn't been taken care of since the people died

willow shoal
#

Well, the evidence is in sanc

wispy canopy
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Just looked back in something and realised why sanc is called sanc

willow shoal
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we know prairie’s light power is at its strongest and most powerful.
but why in sanc there’s darkness growing?

wispy canopy
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The light of creatures were extracted from them and they imbued the light into materials as what we now know as diamonds, sanc is an area that doesn't have any diamonds in the area, no gates or any presence of diamonds, that's the reason of a sanctuary

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It was a safe haven for light creatures

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Those bells in a way alert them to come out when it's safe

willow shoal
#

ummm

wispy canopy
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It's a thought

willow shoal
#

these bells are fragments of memories

wispy canopy
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That somehow trigger the call to creatures which has been done before I think

willow shoal
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guide needs skykids to help find them, as this island fell asleep for a very long time

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long time with no one clear the darkness power, so that’s why there’s dark plant, i think

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also, in prairie village, there are some bellmakers, none of their memories show they worked to clear the darkness growing in the bells.

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so time causes the growth of darkness

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if darkness is natural element, that’s one of the possible reasons

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what do u think?

wispy canopy
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Time indeed causes this, the bells don't require memories but require a source of light or power, at prairie we light the candles, at sanc the bells are lit with power based memories

willow shoal
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so where the darkness grows, there is no enough light power?

wispy canopy
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I don'tnaer think so, it just grows where it can, it grows in the darkness and above ground over time, it grows in caves and near em,

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so where the darkness grows, there is no enough light power?
@willow shoal
True

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That and some other stuff

gilded fossil
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/GUYS

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/theory, eden is not corrupted, eden is protecting the big colorful city above

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/either the king/megan wanted to keep the orbit safe from sth

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/tbh someone must have said this before right

last coyote
#

Does anyone remember murals that have kings inside

lethal stump
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well, there’s a King mural at the end of vault, is that what you’re talking about ?

last coyote
#

Do you have a photo?

lethal stump
last coyote
#

Is that the oob area

lethal stump
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no, thats in the cutscene

last coyote
#

ahhh

lethal stump
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i suggest completing vault and watching the cutscene again SkyLOL

last coyote
#

That's not what I'm looking for but do you remember anywhere else xD

golden cave
#

Darkstone plants!!!

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Wait

lethal stump
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what’s the photo in particular you’re looking for ? can you describe it ?

golden cave
last coyote
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I'm looking for an answer to a riddle that is a king in game and the hint is it is where it is supposed to be. Some other clues have also led me to think that it is not the elders in the cutscenes

golden cave
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Actually maybe what they said before is right!
Or that darkstone is buried under the ground
And the darkstone plants is from the darkstone?or that plants is the darkstone?

last coyote
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I was thiy maybe the lore channel has ppl who knows the murals very well and can help me locate a king

lethal stump
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Well, the king is all over the game

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From Isle to Vault

#

Technically, we don’t know where he is, either

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Well, the king specifically as a person

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but his propaganda is everywhere

golden cave
#

Yeahh it just popular around sky but he is missing....

last coyote
#

The riddle also mentions the king is also skykids but partially

lethal stump
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Oh, theyre probably talking about the shiny lad at the end of eden

golden cave
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Maybe we can wait until future season give us about the story of King?

last coyote
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Oh why so

lethal stump
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It’s a common theory that the shiny lad is the king, since many believe that we carry the kings soul/are a reincarnation of him

last coyote
#

hm that's a good thoery

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Someone submitted the glowing child as the answer xD is there any other possibilities?

golden cave
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Ouh bricky you did understand what I said just now? And you suddenly pop up that link?
I thought my English is bad to read😅

lethal stump
#

i understand you sometimes

golden cave
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Hi hi thanks

lethal stump
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Hm, i’m not sure
Ask if they mean the king himself or a representation of him

last coyote
#

That's the riddle^

lethal stump
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i don’t see any other answer but the glowing child

golden cave
#

??? Where did you find this riddle?

last coyote
#

glowing kiddo might be the right answer but winner isn't announced

lethal stump
#

Stick with the glowing child

last coyote
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it's a server for a certain country I got it from a friend xD

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Okie thanks Bricky

golden cave
#

Ouuuu

last coyote
#

I shall maintain his privacy but I'll say it's not the person who sent the photo*

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The question I asked was also later than the answer sent so if that counts @rose bane

hushed steeple
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What's going on lol

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Oh king
I've a theory about it

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OREO IS THE KINGpFIRE

steel trellis
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hey, random but does anyone remember some old king & queen concept art?? i have a vivid memory of seeing concept art of king and queen all dressed in whites and blues but i can’t find it, does anyone else know what i’m talking abt??

lethal stump
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No, there was never a Queen

red grove
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Question time!

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Have you seen those weird things in battlefield?

lethal stump
red grove
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The stakes-like things next to the broken spears

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As far as I know those are meant to stop cavalry charges

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So

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where did the horses go

lethal stump
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oh, the barricades ?

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not only cavalry, any ground forces

broken basin
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Yeah

lethal stump
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similar things were used even in WW1 & 2 against tanks

broken basin
red grove
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It functions differently from what I seem because horses get, well, empaled and tanks get turned over. Like a coin flip

lethal stump
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they’re called caltrops i think

red grove
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A soldier on foot is capable to manouver around this, but then it stills begs the question

broken basin
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I don't think there were any horses or tanks.
Those in sky were used to stop the infantry

red grove
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Was there a civil war? Why would they need things to stop charges if they weren't fighting something on foot?

lethal stump
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they likely were fighting something on foot

broken basin
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Caltrops are different they're very sharp and small

red grove
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oh yeah I confused them

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Also they seem to have won (The sky soldiers I mean) since the vault is still standing

broken basin
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And aleks, there was never a queen, and I really don't think I've ever seen a concept of King dressed in whites and blues.

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Yes blinky

mellow sable
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the king was black and blue, much like a krill pEyes pEyes pEyes pEyes pEyes

broken basin
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And I think the battle in wasteland was indeed a civil war, they got divided into 2 groups, the ones who supported the idea to use light sources and light creatures to develop their kingdom, and the other group were against it. That's what I think

mellow sable
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what if the royal family became krills

lethal stump
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I’m thinking you saw some sort of fanart/headcanon, Aleks

broken basin
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Was there a royal family??

mellow sable
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there's a king and a presumed prince

steel trellis
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yea, it was concept art for sure, old presumably

red grove
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And I think the battle in wasteland was indeed a civil war, they got divided into 2 groups, the ones who supported the idea to use light sources and light creatures to develop their kingdom, and the other group were against it. That's what I think
@broken basin

"-Sir we just win the war.
-Good, let's keep the contamination around anyway"

lethal stump
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I don’t think so, there was never a concept for it beyond the Prince and King being separate in some concepts

broken basin
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But I think the price is the king

steel trellis
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from the time there was concept art of capes that made them look like spread out wings

mellow sable
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also bricky you didn't add karen to the moff lore dock pFIRE

lethal stump
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i got busy stickerGloomy

steel trellis
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i recently transferred all photos from my phone to my pc, so i can’t find it rn, but i have it saved there for sure

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i’ll search for it when i can, cuz it’s really bothering me for some reason like, it’s there somewhere

broken basin
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I hope you didn't see the Forest elder and considered them the queen

steel trellis
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it’s so weird, cuz idk where i got it from, it isn’t in any of the pinned msgs

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no no, it was someone else sjjssj

lethal stump
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can you describe it in more detail please ?

steel trellis
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i can distinguish characters no problem lol

broken basin
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Yes describe it

steel trellis
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it was 2 character design spread out on a dark grey sheet, a manly figure & a female one, both dressed in what look like a suit & a dress, very fancy looking

mellow sable
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I really like the concept art elders, the more animalistic designs are super cool pWow

broken basin
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Yeah, and a bit scarier especially the forest mama

steel trellis
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both in mostly shades of blue and white, there was also a view of what their “cape” (?) would look like when flying

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weird i know

mellow sable
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remember forest elder was supposed to "seduce" skykids pSquint stickerMad

steel trellis
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omg yea sjsjj

lethal stump
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what did their masks look like ?

mellow sable
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animal masks

lethal stump
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I’m asking Aleks

mellow sable
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the ones on their temples actually!

broken basin
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No not the Elders

mellow sable
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oh

broken basin
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The king and Queen maks

steel trellis
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there wasn’t any close ups of their masks unfortunately

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aghhh i swear i saw it somewhere

lethal stump
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but can you not describe them ?

broken basin
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As far as I know, the king wore a crown

steel trellis
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imma skiddadle look for it some more, if not i’ll send it in later when i get it on my pc

broken basin
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Which we see in the vault cutscene

steel trellis
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he def wore a crown yea, she as well

mellow sable
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hmm

broken basin
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Plz find that image, I'm getting excited

mellow sable
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same here

red grove
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remember forest elder was supposed to "seduce" skykids pSquint stickerMad
@mellow sable

What

broken basin
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Maybe king fell in love with forest mama

lethal stump
red grove
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what do you mean

mellow sable
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VAULT ELDER IS AN OLD CROW I

broken basin
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She shoulve been an owl

red grove
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TGC really stretches that "Family friendly" mark with those desings lmao

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they look more like stone monsters from another game

broken basin
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Vault elder looks evil in the old concepts

mellow sable
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forest elder looks kinda uh

broken basin
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Tbh everyone looks evil

mellow sable
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what's the right word

broken basin
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FAT

mellow sable
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I was looking for a less blunt word but yes

red grove
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they look like ancient guardians but not in a good way

mellow sable
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they look like evil gargoyles

lethal stump
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remember these are old concepts úwù

red grove
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yes gargoyles

broken basin
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Wastland elder looks like the transformer toy which I threw in the campfire

mellow sable
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I'm so happy we didn't get chubby fox seducer elder for forest

red grove
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the twins look like an alien race a table top game

lethal stump
red grove
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I'm so happy we didn't get chubby fox seducer elder for forest
@mellow sable
what

broken basin
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The moth in the photo looks......

mellow sable
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slenderelder

red grove
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no rad what do you mean by seducer

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The moth in the photo looks......
@broken basin weird right? Like gone

broken basin
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Yeah, I've never thought that she seduces, she looks like a mean, selfish lady

mellow sable
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her role in the concept art

lethal stump
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forest was originally going to be maze-like, and she would lead you off in the wrong direction and get you lost

mellow sable
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tgc said she was supposed to seduce and confuse skykids in the fog of the forest

red grove
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ohhhh

broken basin
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I think the moth concluded that "death is near"

red grove
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I think seduce is the wrong word, or at least it doesn't sounds right

mellow sable
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that's what tgc used so pPopcorn

broken basin
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tgc said she was supposed to seduce and confuse skykids in the fog of the forest
@mellow sable
Seduce doesn't feel like the correct word to use

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But if tgc said

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Then ok

lethal stump
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in the concepts she was legit called « sexy » so pPopcorn

red grove
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is there any lore reason of why the forest elder has a comically large hammer?

lethal stump
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probably a blacksmith

red grove
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in the concepts she was legit called « sexy » so pPopcorn
@lethal stump uhhh well I don't judge

stoic fox
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she's a smither?

broken basin
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She used that hammer to bash light like semi-solid metal

lethal stump
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her constellation is an anvil and hammer, i’d imagine she was a blacksmith

broken basin
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And yeah, she's a lightsmith

red grove
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but is there any relation between being a smither and living in the forest?

mellow sable
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"the elder was seducing and trapping you"

red grove
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So elders where bad before?

mellow sable
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yeah

broken basin
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Forest elder's dress is cool thopEyes

lethal stump
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they might still be but who knows

hushed steeple
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Man... This chat is active nowpFIRE

mellow sable
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they were ~corrupted~

red grove
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they might still be but who knows
@lethal stump MMMMMM

stoic fox
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now they just look tired

red grove
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yeah
@mellow sable so did the wasteland elder fights you or?

mellow sable
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no

lethal stump
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no, there was never any fighting except in extremely early development

mellow sable
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he blocked the krill from hurting you

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so you could escape into vault

lethal stump
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where the elders were the « boss » of their realm

red grove
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Rad is that supposed to be a bad thing? Blocking the krills?

broken basin
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Idk why the elder moved in

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The old cutscene was more sensible I guess

lethal stump
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no, not all the elders did bad things in their cutscenes

red grove
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but weren't they all bad before?

broken basin
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Earlier the elder statue used to break in half which could signify that he permanently dies after saving us?

lethal stump
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they were corrupted. didn’t mean they harmed the player

red grove
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ohh

broken basin
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Maybe after we escaped, he fought with the krills, but couldn't win and died.🏳️ pCry

red grove
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so the wasteland elder, even when he was corrupted, tried to save us pCry pCry pCry

stoic fox
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if that really happened i prob would've cried

broken basin
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Now idk if the krills were chasing us, or were they waiting for the gate to open so that they could enter vault

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Or both

mellow sable
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I think they were waiting to attack vault

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I've also noticed something

red grove
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if that really happened i prob would've cried
@stoic fox I mean in game they fought a horrifically costly battle to defend the vault and they won in the end, but he was very tired and alone too pCry pCry pCry

mellow sable
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spirits don't have their own light source

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but there's power diamonds everywhere

hushed steeple
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In old beta the wasteland elder statue is broken after cutscene

mellow sable
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did they just jam butterfly pots into doors to open them?

hushed steeple
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Maybe he died

red grove
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Raf oh no

broken basin
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I almost cried when saw the vault cutscene.

stoic fox
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@stoic fox I mean in game they fought a horrifically costly battle to defend the vault and they won in the end, but he was very tired and alone too pCry pCry pCry
@red grove pCry

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in the end he died alone too..

red grove
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The old cutcenes are in YouTube?

broken basin
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No but that's old beta

hushed steeple
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Ya Blinky .. i can share the link

stoic fox
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hnn thank god he doesn't die now

red grove
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did they just jam butterfly pots into doors to open them?
@mellow sable they knocked very hard until someone came to open the door

broken basin
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In the live, he just has a scratch and also the cutscene placement is harder to understand now

red grove
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Ya Blinky .. i can share the link
@hushed steeple please please!

hushed steeple
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I mean it's a game walkthrough tho

red grove
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Of the old sky version?

broken basin
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Yeah , a full run

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It's like 11 hours??

west cairn
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Are skykids made of stone?

hushed steeple
lethal stump
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we’re not sure, Egg

red grove
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It's like 11 hours??
@broken basin ELEVEN HOURS?

broken basin
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Some believe stone, some say Hardened clay, some say waxpEyes

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Yeah it's legit 11 hours long

lethal stump
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the theories are:

  • clay
  • wax
  • light
  • darkstone
  • regular stone
  • mix of some of the above
broken basin
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I think the outer covering is eith some type of stone and the inside is hollow to be filled with light

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I belive there's no wax in sky world

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The candle are made of light

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Not wax

red grove
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I think wax is more the thing things are made of. Like plastic. So you are buying a piano made of wax

lethal stump
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I think we’re clay, like golems from jewish mythology

broken basin
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Tgc has never used the word wax, they say "pieces of light"

red grove
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But who do we protect?

broken basin
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We don't protect, we save

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I mean we try to save

hushed steeple
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If we're the king then we're made of darkness .. as the king caught by darkness .. (THEORY)

stoic fox
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oh so the place where with the krill cutscene was originally the wasteland elder's tomb(??)

broken basin
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Maybe every sky being has two parts, dark and light

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When we die, we become pure darkness, and the person we hug is pure light

red grove
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I mean I think that's what the game implied at the end?

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Like when you are hugging the other skykid?

west cairn
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Is it fine to spoil the ending

hushed steeple
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When we die, we become pure darkness, and the person we hug us pure light
He's the king..

broken basin
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Yeah which we think is the king

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Amd we are also the king

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Every skykid is a king

west cairn
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||doesn't the light of skykids break out of this clay like shell at the very end of the game||

broken basin
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I'll have to drag in the samsara theory in here

lethal stump
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no need for spoilers

broken basin
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||doesn't the light of skykids break out of this clay like shell at the very end of the game||
@west cairn
That's not light, that's darkness cause it's Blue

hushed steeple
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Egg if you don't know no need to spoiler tag anything herecEllieSkyHeart

red grove
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Bricky for really are you the king?

broken basin
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No, bricky isn't the King

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Or maybe

lethal stump
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Perhaps pPopcorn

west cairn
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No,the scene where you die in eden

hushed steeple
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Well reika is the king

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She confirmed

lethal stump
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im prince then

broken basin
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King researching about himself huh? Seems pretty normal

red grove
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im prince then
@lethal stump
Bricky is no longer canon guys

west cairn
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A skykid made of pure light breaks out of the petrified body of the skykid

hushed steeple
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Btw did reika confirmed that the hammer is the poop she mentioned?pFIRE

lethal stump
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the prince may or may not be canon. it’s unknown

red grove
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King researching about himself huh? Seems pretty normal
@broken basin wasn't there an actual king that wrote his own biography?

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ok so Bricky is canon and not canon at the same time

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omg

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Bricky's cat

broken basin
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What are we even discussing lmao

red grove
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Canon and not canon

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A skykid made of pure light breaks out of the petrified body of the skykid
@west cairn I always thought that was more symbolic, like you breaking your prison (Your body?) And becoming the very best of yourself

broken basin
red grove
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they just shoot very tiny balls at the computer

broken basin
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I can't wait for the next season to come out, I hope it's lore heavy, even more than SoE

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I belive next is going to be rainy season right??