#lore-discussion-spoilers

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short owl
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AND A MEGABIRB

spring blaze
lethal stump
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hello ginsy !

tender dune
normal berry
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Here is a lore question for ya

short owl
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Ri. Don't be cruel like that.

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Now I gotta wait for the question

normal berry
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wonder why skykids holding another's hand will copy the leader's emotes

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thats my question

lethal stump
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i mean
we spend the whole game copying
it’s our nature, it seems

normal berry
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imo their souls/minds/whatever are linked

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since we are all part of the same incarnation

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the prince

lethal stump
orchid crypt
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Weirdly enough, it only applies to handholding

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Piggy backers don’t mimic

normal berry
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yeah

sinful anvil
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mb some perks of coding?

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mb its the computer coding?

normal berry
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I was thinking about that too

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I dont think it was coding

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I have a feeling it is intentional

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but i could be wrong

short owl
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Eh probably not. My suspicion is that hand holding is leading, but carying someone has different implications

lethal stump
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wouldn’t it be harder to make a character do a thing than do nothing ?

normal berry
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^

sinful anvil
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what abt afk actions, like scratching ur head, stretching. does ppl holding hands copy that

tender dune
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yes

short owl
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When you lead someone, you expect them to take action

tender dune
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when you wait with someone your character will copy the streching and such

short owl
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Also... Are afk actions randomly timed?

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Cause if not there are tests needed

sinful anvil
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i thibk theyre random

lethal stump
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probably rng

stone skiff
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The dead crabs in wasteland was just a very angry sky kid.pSquint

lethal stump
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dead crabs ?

stone skiff
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There's crabs on a stick in wasteland

lethal stump
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oh, those are from belonging

hushed steeple
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Does anybody know which is the connection between sky and journey? Played both and never figured out

lethal stump
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They’re spiritual successors, but lore-wise they are not connected

hushed steeple
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Oh thanks, read somewhere that sky is supposed to be a prequel of journey

lethal stump
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nope, they’re separate games

sly kestrel
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Wherever u read it

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It is wrong

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🔫pHelloKrill

tender dune
static spoke
hushed steeple
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I made the anatomy of the krills head

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I thought of a scientific name too...

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uh

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yeah ok bye

static spoke
hushed steeple
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Hwehwehwe

bleak basin
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ALRIGHT

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ok

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Me and my 2 friends were testing going to the first cutscene area

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Hard

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it is possible

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But the chair user cannot be hit into any realms by the rocket

river urchin
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Did a search in here and couldn't find it. Any lore explanation of why on Sundays specifically Wasteland has all plant rotation? Maybe it is due to Eden reset? Sorry if this has been discussed before.

bleak basin
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Eden reset prob

lethal stump
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hasn’t really been looked into
most people don’t see wax and such as lore

river urchin
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Well... It is part of the environment for a reason. If they made this much detail for other aspects, I am sure the candles and plants have some tie into the lore.

lethal stump
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yea, i believe so too, but i say such as to give an explanation as to why it hasn’t really been discussed

short owl
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It's been mentioned while talking about time prison but hasn't been given its own spotlight

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Maybe the crystal makes it difficult to loop Eden because of the corrupt crystal, and a successful loop causes a more full reset of wasteland - the closest exposed territory

glad forge
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What did I miss?

lethal stump
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going through forest, what does this look like it used to be ? i think it used to be a house

cold steppe
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yeah, I've thought that too

hushed steeple
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the forest had a quite noticeable village, so that could be a house

short owl
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May have also been a shop. Knowing some architecture, maybe both. Mixed commercial/residential architecture is not uncommon in many places

cold steppe
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oooh true

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the Prairie boatmaker seems to have lived and worked in the place where we see their memories

lethal stump
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we see blushing prospector end in that area, i was thinking it could have been their home or something

heady sequoia
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smacks sky harder for lore

short owl
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Wren is Conj ever allowed to be awake?

cold steppe
hushed steeple
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What is actually the storyline of sky, do we essentially take into account the reset or does it end at the credit canonically?

cold steppe
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cries in lack of lore

lethal stump
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up to you, Lamb

cold steppe
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...there are theories

heady sequoia
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smack sky harder people

cold steppe
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and ideas, but no actual answer

heady sequoia
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Rebirth? I feel that would be cannon, though. Its a big thing in the game.

hushed steeple
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But like i would assume this is basic fundamental lore that must have an answer otherwise 50% of all possible theories fail

cold steppe
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the nickname is a gentle reminder to sneep

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also I forgot to change it

lethal stump
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when we say the sky lore is vague we mean vague

hushed steeple
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I didnt think this vague

lethal stump
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haha you overestimate how much information we have

heady sequoia
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Yes. But i really beilive that rebirth is cannon-
Because that means sky kids after wards arent cannon-

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Maybe the crystal makes it difficult to loop Eden because of the corrupt crystal, and a successful loop causes a more full reset of wasteland - the closest exposed territory
@short owl
Whats a loop, and what does it do?

lethal stump
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time loop
time loop
lemme grab

heady sequoia
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??

lethal stump
hushed steeple
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The issue is this is not possible to explore unless explicitly told, it requires either the game to have a definitive end or some character to breaks the forth wall.

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Like at least we have some evidence to go on about the king

lethal stump
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what’s not possible to explore ?

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the lore ?

hushed steeple
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No, like the answer of does sky storyline end at its credit or does it incorporate the reset

cold steppe
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Ktjn said that they left the story purposely vague to leave it up for interpretation

lethal stump
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yeah, so just do what you think makes sense or is cool !

short owl
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Eh you just have to accept the possibility of being wrong. Embrace it. Then find your theory uncredited on Brick's Tumblr.

lethal stump
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?

short owl
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Not as mad as I sound but also poke

lethal stump
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if i share a theory, i crédit it

cold steppe
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fancy

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Here's a comment from Ktjn about game mechanics vs. lore
"It's a mixture of both. There's always a bit of suspension of disbelief to introduce gameplay for the sake of replayability interspersed with official canon. We try not to handhold too much because we love seeing the many interpretations of what's going on in the world of Sky."

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and of course "We've presented the story of Sky intentionally vague so that you can freely project your interpretation of it without anything being concretely right or wrong."

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TGC is basically saying go wild

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they have presented the story in the game, and it is up to us to see how we interpret it

hushed steeple
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This is why i dont like metaphysical or metamorphic theories, not because they are bad but it takes the fun out of theory crafting, extrapolating beyond a certain point is just, i dont know how to put it, it feels like you are creating the game rather than exploring it.

real tendon
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Can sombody explain the lore to me? I don’t understand any of it :/

lethal stump
hushed steeple
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I summon bricky

cold steppe
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bricky has been summoned

hushed steeple
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I was one second late

cold steppe
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bricky is always watching

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bricky is the narrator

lethal stump
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short answer to your question: there is no official lore, it’s open to interpretation for you to make up

cold steppe
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Vault Vault

short owl
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IT WAS PASTED WHEN IT WAS POSTED

cold steppe
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?

hushed steeple
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Is there a long answer?

short owl
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I was just a tap too slow to beat brick at posting it

lethal stump
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long answer: all the pins

normal berry
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I̷̖͌ ̵̜̂h̴͇͂a̶͐͜v̴̯͝ȩ̸̂ ̸̣̎a̷͇̐ṙ̵̼r̶̹̆i̸̟̊v̸̹́v̷͙̔e̸͓̓d̵͎͂

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whoops too much zalgo

lethal stump
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scary

short owl
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Unreadable and I don't think zalgo is allowed

normal berry
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it isnt?

lethal stump
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?
nothing against zalgo text here afaik

short owl
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Bot can't read it

normal berry
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ah

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didnt see it in rules but aight

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anyways

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here i am

lethal stump
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hello ri stickerWave

normal berry
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also

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whats this theory tumblr acc of yours brick? i wanna read it pEyes

real tendon
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Wait what is the canon lore doc? That’s the thing I’m looking for

normal berry
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in the pins

short owl
lethal stump
hushed steeple
lethal stump
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_>

hushed steeple
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I give up

lethal stump
short owl
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Brick... Do you have custom hotkeys or something?

lethal stump
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no
fast fingers

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  1. memorized where things are
  2. fast fingers
cold steppe
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it's also in the pins

lethal stump
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yeah, that’s what i use

cold steppe
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bless the pins

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I'm surprised Ktjn didn't pin their comment about interpretation

short owl
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I thought they did

lethal stump
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nope

short owl
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Just the 2 year support one...

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We could ask Ktjn to pin it

lethal stump
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yeah pWow

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i call upon the magic that i don’t have to summon a dev so they can pin that message SkyPray

short owl
real tendon
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What is the megabird?

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It sounds... menacing

lethal stump
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did you read my welcome doc ?

sly kestrel
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Hey

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This too

real tendon
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I meant more like what does it look like

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Like is there a picture or something

lethal stump
flat pewter
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What is this channel for?

lethal stump
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megabird !

sly kestrel
lethal stump
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this channel is for finding the story and lore of sky !

real tendon
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@lethal stump reminds me a bit of Galeem from smash bros

lethal stump
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i
who ?

real tendon
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The picture you sent

flat pewter
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Oh I see

lethal stump
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im not the gaming type lol
sky is the only game i play

real tendon
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Ah

kind bobcat
lethal stump
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yep

sly kestrel
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Technically there is none written out right now
There’s no hidden and complete story that the devs made (yet)
Right now, we are jus supposed to mainly create our own story and use this chat to discuss our imaginations and theories

real tendon
lethal stump
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looks like an Archangel

kind bobcat
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What's an Archangel pEyes

lethal stump
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it’s basically a Really Important Angel

sly kestrel
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So this is where Lore or Game Mechs came from? pEyes
@kind bobcat no it was a topic a long time ago, way before ktjn said that

lethal stump
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from christianity

kind bobcat
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Oh, that.

lethal stump
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Lucifer is an Archangel

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for example

kind bobcat
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I thought you were referring to a specific something or someone

lethal stump
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they were the first angels created i think

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theres 7 archangels

real tendon
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Looked it up, you are correct

lethal stump
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Michael, Raphael, Gabriel, Uriel, Saraqael, Raguel, and Remiel.

rancid onyx
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oh nice y’all have documents

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i am looking

lethal stump
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yep

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reading the pins and such will be quite helpful for you

rancid onyx
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gee i hope this doesnt devolve into another lore addiction

lethal stump
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it will

rancid onyx
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i know

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this keeps happening

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every game i get into has so much lore

sinful gull
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hahaha welcome to sky’s lore channel. you’ll never leave

lethal stump
kind bobcat
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one of us, one of us, one of us

lethal stump
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oop

polar obsidian
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When I first started playing Sky,, I wasn’t sure I’d really be into the lore. Yet...

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Here I am :, )

lethal stump
kind bobcat
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Hello. pEyes

proven pewter
polar obsidian
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😮 I’m intrigued. Fascinated.

hushed steeple
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Ok, I'll try to nerd my way into all this content SkyLook

glossy goblet
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Hmmm, I wanna try to get into the lore as well lmao

upbeat bay
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lore I smel

lethal stump
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new moffs
new brains

upbeat bay
rancid onyx
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"the levels of sky are just the same place at different points" jesus christ i wasnt prepared for this level of big brain

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alright

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i havent seen enough discussion on the valley of triumph

lethal stump
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what do you wanna talk about with it pEyes

rancid onyx
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idk

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it sticks out like a sore thumb for me amongst the areas

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they mostly feel like a religious, ancient thing

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but valley of triumph is a competition

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you're in the olympics

lethal stump
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it was designed to be the capital of the kingdom, iirc

rancid onyx
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huh

polar obsidian
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Also,, where is the cheering coming from? Ghosts?

lethal stump
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it’s up to you pEyes

rancid onyx
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yeah spirits

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you know i didnt even notice the cheering

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may be the reason why i dont register it as a "dead" place

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it feels very much alive

polar obsidian
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But how come those spirits are invisible and the others aren’t?

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Yeah!! It has the most cheerful music of all the places, I think

rancid onyx
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it does

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i love the area

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except for the lights you cant physically get

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that's anxiety

tired matrix
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can someone explain the elder gods???

polar obsidian
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SAME. I’m clumsy with the controls, so I always barrel past the wl :, )

rancid onyx
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oh that and also

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when theres many side by side

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that hurts

lethal stump
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@tired matrix what do you want to know about the elders ?

rancid onyx
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oh btw

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im not sure if all the elders are responsible for the downfall of eden

polar obsidian
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Was anybody else intimidated beyond belief by the forest ancestor?

rancid onyx
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nah

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she creepy though

polar obsidian
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She scared me-

lethal stump
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oh
have you seen the concept forest elder, because she’s far scarier

polar obsidian
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😮

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I have not-

lethal stump
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anyways, check the pins for concept art, specifically Tom Zhao’s site

polar obsidian
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Oh sweet, thankyou

sinful anvil
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im still salty about that forest cutscene

polar obsidian
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Also, the vibes I get from the wasteland elder are very,,, regretful?? Like they lost something important, or something happened that was their fault.

rancid onyx
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oh yeah

polar obsidian
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Like,, wasteland freaks me out, but the elder seems very comforting and wistful for some reason.

rancid onyx
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on my first playthrough i read his regret as inability to protect

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but on hindsight he may have to do with the krill infestation

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and the black water

polar obsidian
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Yeah. He gives off this feeling like it’s maybe his fault the wasteland is, well... a wasteland.

sly kestrel
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This was never thought of before haha

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New ideas interest me

polar obsidian
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Pfft tell me if I’m just babbling. I’m a little nervous about spouting stuff that’s already been said and making myself look like a buffoon :, )

kind bobcat
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New fresh brains for the hive mind stickerShiny

sly kestrel
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New generation minds actually helped me with a lot of theories I have
So I look forward to looking at new moff theories

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Now tell me ur theory about the wasteland elder causing the destruction in that realm
🔫pHelloKrill

kind bobcat
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Spill the beans pkrilleye

lethal stump
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give us your brain thoughts

sly kestrel
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Tell us ur reasoning
pSquintkrillbodykrillatail

willow shoal
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There are many memory cubes in Vault, someone said vault was built for storing dead Wasteland ancients’ memories and honoring them.

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so they wanted to make these warriors back to life?

sly kestrel
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It’s not confirmed but that’s a strong speculation
Vault holds memories of the whole sky world, memories and knowledge, this includes forbidden knowledge as well
In my opinion, I strongly believe that the knowledge and history of wasteland lies in vault as well

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Wait wha

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I mean.....that’s a new theory

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Wait where’d u get the idea that vault was built specifically for dead wasteland ancients
Someone told u that as a theory or....?

willow shoal
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ummm, a unknown editor began a Sky annal project in his blog, and he said this in his text

sly kestrel
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Interesting

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Tell me more about this unknown editor
🔫pHelloKrill

lethal stump
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annal ?

sly kestrel
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Jkjkjk
But all theories are welcome

willow shoal
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he didn’t want to say any about the way he get these

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yeah, he called it “Sky Annals”

sly kestrel
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Ooooh

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Now where did u find this person
🤛🏻krillbodykrillatail

willow shoal
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but now he didn’t continue his text, so I just got this project and began to write new annals

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Now where did u find this person
🔫krillbodykrillatail
@sly kestrel in his blog

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i don’t know if his texts are official’s information or he made by himself

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so when i decided to write annals about sky, i just said “i made this by myself and based on Tom’s concept art

polar obsidian
sly kestrel
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It’s most likely not official
1, there wasn’t a single concept about vault being built for dead wasteland ppl, 2, the devs gave a completely different motive for vault’s purpose and history, 3, there wasn’t a shred of proof given at all about that theory
I was interested to find it bc it jus sounded....cool

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But like I said, all theories are welcome since they wanted us to create the story and make it up for now stickerHeart

willow shoal
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this is strange

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what’s this mural mean

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also,this 4-block pattern appears in many places

sly kestrel
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U kno, u actually made me discover something

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At valley and wasteland, there’s a symbol that’s cut in half
4 diamonds in the shape of a diamond
Well in that pic...there’s a crack in the middle

willow shoal
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if 4 blocks mean 4 players puzzle (the pic above is from vault 2F 4 players door)

lethal stump
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those pics look datamined...do you know where they came from ?

willow shoal
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i made them SkyLOL

lethal stump
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Okay
just making sure, they looked a bit off..

willow shoal
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i use Lr in screenshots

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so what’s the mural mean in the first pic

lethal stump
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What do you think ?

willow shoal
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idk, maybe 4 blocks are cut in half means the diamond corrupted anything there?

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this pattern appears in vault, so i guess if it means wisdom and knowledge

polar obsidian
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So, I just rewatched all the elder cutscenes, because I noticed something before and wanted to see if I was right.
The first two elders, Isle and Prairie, use the candles you lit for them to fix their cosmetics, mask and pot/vase respectively. They thank you and leave.
The forest elder, though her candles are sitting right there, snatches yours and uses it on her anvil. The valley elders do something similar, asking for it, and then i believe they take it and tease the player with it.
The vault elder asks for the player to light her object.
The wasteland elder doesn’t ask for or take the player’s candle. He falls to his knees in what seems to be despair. He is the first and only elder that the player willingly offers their candle to without being asked.
The wasteland elder is obviously a warrior. The fact that a large section of the wasteland is called the “graveyard” leads me to believe that he was the leader/commander of an army, and his troops were wiped out.
He doesn’t ask for help because he doesn’t believe he deserves another chance. The player saves him anyway.
Honestly, i’m just bouncing ideas around. Sorry it was so long :, )

short owl
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My heaaart

torpid kelp
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now this is why I'm finishing the gw constellation first. I wanna see more of em

short owl
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Alsdo a possibility: He doesn't want another chance. He's exausted. He's seen things. While he's unlikely to yield unless he's made to, he likely wouldn't nessasarily mind if he was made to.

polar obsidian
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Yes! I think he was ready to give up. He blamed himself for what happened and didn't believe he deserved redemption. The act of kindness on the player's part is what redeems him.

torpid kelp
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I love

polar obsidian
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I'm so in awe of how much personality eaach of the spirits have.

kind bobcat
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How did you get those wall marking images?

short owl
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We see someone in need of help and do what little we can. But what we can does not fix a war, regardless of whether it fixes physical injury

willow shoal
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How did you get those wall marking images?
@kind bobcat i use Lightroom in screenshots

hushed steeple
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Does this cross symbolises something onto Sky? I mean the Skykids's call signals it and the wedges are also like this... or it's just Light

kind bobcat
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Well, i think it's just a symbol for Skykids or our flight power

willow shoal
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||ummmm i think we can try to figure out what the bell patterns mean||

kind bobcat
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Oz thinks it's the king/prince pEyes

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@willow shoal you should check Mochi-Daifuku's doc on sky glyphs.

lethal stump
willow shoal
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ohhhh awesomeSkyClap

analog sable
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Ohhh I love all these theories, especially about the one about Tsadi pCry

willow shoal
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guys, what do u think about the mural mean?

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i guess triangles and lines mean wall, but what does it want to show us?

mortal viper
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@polar obsidian you will make me cry with your angst wasteland theory

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i love them btw

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please, continue

lethal stump
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anything about wasteland makes you cry, blue

polar obsidian
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pCry that makes me so happy I-

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And oml mood

mortal viper
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I am a wasteland dweller devoted to Tsadi, what can I do?

lethal stump
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True dat

mortal viper
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JAY

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stop erasing your messages before I can answer them

polar obsidian
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The Valley elders are my favorite,, but I immediately felt for Tsadi when I saw him. pWow

rancid onyx
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VALLEY ELDERS FTW

normal berry
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team Eden Elder rise up pBuffMoth SkyLOL

rancid onyx
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is there an eden elder?

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are we the eden elder?

normal berry
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he do be ded doe

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but might be incarnated as us

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so ye

lethal stump
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nah, they’re just not around to be saved anymore

brisk summit
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Do the elders have official names?

sly kestrel
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no

mortal viper
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yes

rancid onyx
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they kinda do

mortal viper
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and no

normal berry
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no. only fanon

rancid onyx
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i meannnn

normal berry
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bbbbrring out the name list pFIRE

rancid onyx
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isnt there the thing about the hebrew letters

normal berry
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ye

short owl
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They have names used in the concepts, but the names are not used in actual game

lethal stump
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Isle: Daleth (ד)
Prairie: Ayin (ע)
Forest: Teth (ט)
Valley: Samekh (ס)
Wasteland: Tsadi (צ)
Vault: Lamed (ל)
Prince/Not Corrupt King: Alef (א)
Corrupt King: Resh (ר)
PLEASE NOTE: These names have appeared in concept art and are often used when referring to the elders. They are no longer canon, they are fanon.

short owl
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nor any non-concpet official material

brisk summit
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Ooo

sly kestrel
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The Wasteland papa nickname has officially been replaced by Tsadi and I’m the only one sad about it SkyLOL ....😔

brisk summit
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Nice ^^

normal berry
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Tsadi is so dope doe

rancid onyx
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he looks like a tsadi

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i will take no questions on this matter

polar obsidian
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I want to hug Tsadi

short owl
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Tsadi deserves an army of sky kids with one mission - hug tsadi

rancid onyx
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tsadi is guilty of several war crimes and is on the run from the tax people

brisk summit
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Lolll

normal berry
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P e r h a p s

brisk summit
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Alrighty well ty for the names ✨

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They're really cool

short owl
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I mean he is on the run from tax people... but not because tax reasons

sly kestrel
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Bold to assume money was a thing pWow

normal berry
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He is on the run from king abolitionist

polar obsidian
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He owes candles to some people in high places

normal berry
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anyways im off to sleep so gn all!

polar obsidian
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Goodnight!!

rancid onyx
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i don't need sleep

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i need answers

short owl
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Tsadi cannot be hugged and that is a war crime

polar obsidian
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He can and he will be hugged

mortal viper
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I like the spirt clo

sly kestrel
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Lore chat: “I need answers, pleaseeeee stickerEmbarrassed
Tgc: “make ur answers stickerPeace

short owl
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I CAN'T! ADDING IN A "HUG TSADI" FEATURE WOULD BE CONSIDERED A HACK

sly kestrel
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The only sky character I would ever hug
Is the cry spirit 😕

lethal stump
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i would hug all the elders

polar obsidian
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Time to go to the wishlist channel

rancid onyx
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the scared spirit in the forest

sly kestrel
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There is no scared spirit in forest

rancid onyx
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dismayed hunter

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same deal

sly kestrel
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That’s not scared

rancid onyx
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its worse

sly kestrel
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Still not scared tho

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2 very different meanings

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Hug a girl who made a mistake and feels bad for it...
or hug a girl who witnessed her friends all die in a cave in a mining accident 🤔
Choicesssss

rancid onyx
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hug every spirit

mortal viper
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hug everyone

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because we are pyromaniac flying kids with bell brains and a knack for stealing wax

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if we can't set something on fire, we hug it

short owl
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You underestimate my willingness to hug

lethal stump
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but we can also set things on fire that we hug, like each other !

mortal viper
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yes

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we are hugging pyromaniacs

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nothing can stop us

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not even Eden

rancid onyx
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eden is literally

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"hell cannot stop me from hugging people"

mortal viper
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y e s

lethal stump
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skids like:
I’LL HUG EVERYONE
ILL HUG THE CRABS
ILL HUG THE DEAD PEOPLE
FRICK IT, ILL HUG MYSELF

short owl
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TSADI CAN'T BE HUGGED AND THAT'S A WAR CRIME

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And a bit of "nothing can stop us from hugging"

ornate quiver
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Hugging is the cure all

lethal stump
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Mr Heels

ornate quiver
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Imagine If Mr heels had heelies

tardy hollow
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Any ideas what the waters in wasteland could be? Toxic waste or oil? Considering there's pipes and pipelines in the broken temple area before 1st krill area and at shipwreck area

polar obsidian
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Imagine If Mr heels had heelies
@ornate quiver only the best invention ever made-

green mulch
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@tardy hollow I always imagined The Wasteland to be a war zone or some type of industrial zone. It being toxic waste would support that. The multiple shipwrecks, broken pipes, and multiple Krill always made me think some type of battle took place.
I would say it was and industrial area if it wasn’t for the shipwrecks, and how the some of the spirits (like the lookout) seem to have been fighting.

tardy hollow
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I always imagined The Wasteland to be a war zone or some type of industrial zone. It being toxic waste would support that. The multiple shipwrecks, broken pipes, and multiple Krill always made me think some type of battle took place.
I would say it was and industrial area if it wasn’t for the shipwrecks, and how the some of the spirits (like the lookout) seem to have been fighting.
@green mulch i was thinking the same thing. Like probably before wasteland become like a battleplace where a war has been going on. It looks like an industrial place with factories or something cuz well the pipelines around the map. And suddenly something happened and krills are around and its now ruined pEyes like tje play dead emote is a soldier and the wide-legged stance is called courageous soldier (or something) and the frightened spirit is called frightened refugeepEyes

polar obsidian
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Oh yeah, there was definitely a war. I wonder what it looked like before all the devastation.

tardy hollow
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But vault seems untouched. Like from a place where there's danger like wasteland to a seemingly calm place like vault feels vastly different.

polar obsidian
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Yeah!! But there’s also a hollow, abandoned feel to vault as well. pSquint

tardy hollow
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Oof yea. Like the crabs and the broken floors. Like its been abandoned and the spirits from the Vault are like scholars of some sort. So like probably they're the medics to help out during rhe war in wasteland?

polar obsidian
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Ooh, that’s a cool idea!! I kinda thought of them more as priests or librarians or professors,, but that’s actually really cool!!

lethal stump
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Oh, she was ?

tardy hollow
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They seem like those renaissance scholars where they should know everything so not surprised if they also know healing knowledge pEyes

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Like knowing how to levitate and also learn to heal so most likely they're also medics to help out during the war in wasteland

green mulch
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The scholars I imagine were like smarter Clerics and Paladins in DND so it makes sense for them to be healers.

tardy hollow
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Enchantment spirits might also be scholars
@hushed steeple probably but they seemed to be more like merchants or magicians to me.

green mulch
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Maybe both!

lethal stump
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In the murals they have the same headpieces as scholars

polar obsidian
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The scholars I imagine were like smarter Clerics and Paladins in DND so it makes sense for them to be healers.
@green mulch that actually makes a lot of sense!! : O

lethal stump
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which « denote » them as scholars, anyways

green mulch
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@polar obsidian thanks!

tardy hollow
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Assuming the tall headpieces the ones in vault wears indicates they're scholars, probably some of the enchantment spirits are scholars but they want to explore and sell stuff lioe merchants pEyes

sly kestrel
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Imagine If Mr heels had heelies
@ornate quiver heelys? SkyLOL SkyLOL

polar obsidian
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Assuming the tall headpieces the ones in vault wears indicates they're scholars, probably some of the enchantment spirits are scholars but they want to explore and sell stuff lioe merchants pEyes
@tardy hollow field trip field trip

tardy hollow
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I mean, some have spirits memories especially the SkyShrug spirit kinda shows they're like experimenting with purifying the toxic waters in wasteland to become clear water

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Kinda shows the experiment magic failed I think so they just went SkyShrug

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But then enchantment spirits are like those explorer spirits who want to see stuff but something happened and they crash landed in wasteland, judging by how their ship got broken into two.

short owl
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I like the theory that enchantment spirits went out to find solutions to the problems in GW, and were on their way back with orbs when the ship crashed

tardy hollow
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Maybe but their ship got broken into two so idk how to explain that. pThink so they try to make a life in that area.

rancid onyx
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i mean

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they werent explorers

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the fact that its called an ark should be a huge tell of what happened

tardy hollow
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Enchantment spirits looked more like merchants to me. Especially when after u returned the light to restore the ark, u grt like a marketplace for spell shopping

short owl
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I never got to see lightseekers

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I am an enchantment baby

rancid onyx
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sanctuary gang

sly kestrel
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Personally I see the market as a game mechanic and opportunity for us to get spells since it was such a common asked wish

short owl
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You can't be in a gang! You're not even a season old yet!

sly kestrel
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HAHAAAA

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I’m sorry that made me laugh

green mulch
#

I will just like to say, what if he civilizations in the GW and the Vault were directly connected. Maybe like the GW were a supporting settlement or something. It would explain the healers.

sly kestrel
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Boop have u seen my theory about it 👀

tardy hollow
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I will just like to say, what if he civilizations in the GW and the Vault were directly connected. Maybe like the GW were a supporting settlement or something. It would explain the healers.
@green mulch but it looks like wasteland is fortress after a war is going on. Especially in Battlefield and Shipwreck

green mulch
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True

sly kestrel
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Well the way u described it sounded rlly close to my theory so Thas why I asked

green mulch
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But there is also the broken temple and other infrastructure

tardy hollow
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Vault probably helps out by being medics for the soldiers pEyes

short owl
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Vault and GW were really close just in general, but the Vault doesn't seem like an entire location on its own. It's probably more a library of very important informatino near what wasteland used to be

rancid onyx
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the vault is the final line of defence after whatever happened to the wasteland

sly kestrel
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Ooh i see Jay. What was ur theory? Could u link it to me?
@hushed steeple Sureee!!!
If I can find it SkyLOL

tardy hollow
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But there is also the broken temple and other infrastructure
@green mulch maybe wasteland didn't started out as a fortress but an industrial place but something happened. Like war or krills invading. Cuz u can see how the map areas in wasteland look like.

sly kestrel
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That’s how I viewed it
But the graveyard is one key thing that I am very interested about

green mulch
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That makes sense! The graveyard is probably just a mass grave for the dead soldiers, there’s a similar one in another TGC game

tardy hollow
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First area is broken temple, so like regular place where life used to be, and the first krill area is still a temple. Graveyard is where it looks bad with all the skeletons lying around and the krills. Battlefield is like the final.line of defense since theres alot of shields and broken spears lying bout. Shipwreck is like helping on the borders of wasteland

sly kestrel
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Such a mystery
What happened to them
If they are so big and huge why are they all dead on the same small area, were they dumped? How did they die? Why are krills roaming around them
When did they die? The sneaky spirit is inside the corpse

rancid onyx
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we know one of them gave their life for the ark

sly kestrel
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Huh

rancid onyx
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the placement of the spear is way too convenient

sly kestrel
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That was a new feature, tbh I think it was jus a design thing
But u could be right, maybe someone jus DIED there

rancid onyx
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maybe one of the ancients

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im not sure yet

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just pointing out stuff

tardy hollow
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I mean the frightened spirit is called "frightened refugee" so something must have happened SkyScared

green mulch
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the sneaky spirit cutscene I would think they (maybe the refugees) were ambushed by the kills or something else... but could a krill kill that many people? Also yes that’s what it means.

rancid onyx
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yeah the different spirits in gw are definitely from different time periods

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the one in the ship seems oddly chill

tardy hollow
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But where is their original home? So they like go waaaaay bck i think pThink

sly kestrel
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The time stamp for the ancestors is actually quite large if u rlly think about it

green mulch
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@rancid onyx The one in the ships probably a soldier

rancid onyx
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oh yeah

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absolutely

tardy hollow
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Maybe the refugees are going to Vault
@hushed steeple most likely. Cuz their final memories are like them crouching down. Like when a structure is falling down on thempThink

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And they like cowered down

green mulch
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Or hid

rancid onyx
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so the golden wasteland was important

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cause they had the whole archives thing going on

tardy hollow
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So the lookout spirit might not be alarming others for an enemy. It also possible he's telling gatekeepers to open the gate for incoming refugeed
@hushed steeple maybe. Battlefield area is like a fortress after all.pEyes

static spoke
tardy hollow
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The gate area is where that spirit is stationed. As a lookout. Either for krills or any refugees.

green mulch
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Sadly since I think their ship got broken (maybe by the krill in the area) I think they were on krill lookout

tardy hollow
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And considering how the spirits there are like soldiers or survivors, that place means something really bad has happened with the krills and whatnot pEyes

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Sadly since I think their ship got broken (maybe by the krill in the area) I think they were on krill lookout
@green mulch oh yaaaaa, the one lone krill in ark. Probably thats why they crash landed?

green mulch
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Someone much earlier in the chat said it looked like krill legs were stuck in the ship...

hybrid oxide
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You mean that big zigzag thing?

tardy hollow
#

Also, the gates in wasteland temple looks different compared to other gates in other kingdoms. Like they're supposed to keep something out. Cuz its big and like idk how to say this but like grille?

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And it goes up if opened and it goes down quickly once u entered the temple

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Like the gate just dropped down the minute u have entered the temple.

hybrid oxide
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4 in graveyard

green mulch
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Too many

rancid onyx
hybrid oxide
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1 in upper swamp
1 in shipwreck
1 in ark

tardy hollow
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5 i think. Not including the ark one

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If Battlefield krills are released then 8

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I think.

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9 krills? Idk

hybrid oxide
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7 total (not counting battlefield ofc)

rancid onyx
#

it feels like much less than that

tardy hollow
#

But that area has a lot of krills. But surprisingly vault is untouched by krills. So the transition from dangerous wasteland to abandoned vault is eerie

lethal stump
#

There’s 14 krills in game in total

tardy hollow
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Including the ones in eden?

hybrid oxide
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Include Eden?

lethal stump
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Yes

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Ark: 1
Upper krill swamp: 1
Shipwreck: 1
Graveyard: 4
Battlefield: 3
Eden: 4
Total: 14

rancid onyx
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huh

tardy hollow
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Wonder how that wide-legged stance spirit avoid krills cuz some of their memories are in krill's pathway. pEyes

sinful anvil
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thats 13 krills

tardy hollow
#

Like pretty out ij the open like that. Probably as a lookout or scout?

sinful anvil
#

nvm

lethal stump
sinful anvil
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nvm

rancid onyx
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see this is what im saying

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the spirits arent all from the same time period

sinful anvil
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i wonder if he died from the krills and became a spirit but then again this memory may be a significant imprint rather than a literal ghost

tardy hollow
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Have you seen they're cutscene fae? Maybe he's just really good at sneaky sneaky
@hushed steeple i think i forgot bout it. I'll look thru it again

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Also sneak spirit is wearing black cape. Probably to camouflage himself from krills if he happen to be spotted
@hushed steeple maybe. Cuz rhe area that spirit is found has like many krills.

heady sequoia
#

Ooo
Lala
Lore chunks for lunch
Great for after school

tardy hollow
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Can blend in. Assuming the area is already dark to begin with

lost hull
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wait what if krills are attracted to death and destruction

sinful anvil
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ymmv but sneak stance is mildly inconvient because it takes too much space, which makes krills easier notice you

lost hull
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bc the areas with the most infestation, like the graveyard and Eden, have a bunch of bones and dead bodies

sinful anvil
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ties in w trauma symbolism

lost hull
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they eat the light essentially but they don't live in light places

heady sequoia
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Im certain that even if black cape used a cape to hide, a krill would still spot him
gasp
HEAT SEEKERS BUT LIGHT EDITION

sinful anvil
#

i have an unrelated theory. just gonna post it n thats it

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so it was said the cutscenes happened outside space time but impact the world. then what Elders did the light makes a lot of sense. (i got inspiration from beta)

Daleth points his staff to the birds. In reality the doors open and birds and you fly through the clouds.
Ayin converts the light into a butterfly and stuffs it in a jar. In reality the jars open with butterflies.
Teth sends the light upward. In reality the ceiling turns and the door opens.
Samekh is lowkey an exception. The light goes up and the door opens? I didn’t check the surroundings closely stickerGloomy
… the last 2 realms are disproving stickerGloomy i can see why no one raised this

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problem is the cape spirit isnt a skykid. so it might just b a person wearing cape, doesnt mean he has light

heady sequoia
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I kinda think all spirits and not dark creatures are made of light
Perhaps even kril....

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Yep

tardy hollow
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I think skykids are like creation or fallen stars after the fall of Sky kingdoms and they're slightly different from the spirits

sinful anvil
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well wheres the mother of dark dragons

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lol

rancid onyx
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krills definitely used to be light creatures

tardy hollow
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Like different from the spirits found in game

rancid onyx
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imo at least

heady sequoia
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No the mega bird sent them

rancid onyx
#

what the hell is a mega bird

heady sequoia
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Skykid are innocent UwU

tardy hollow
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Krills ar probably corruped

heady sequoia
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GOD

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Mega bird is GOD

tardy hollow
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Thats why krills attacked. Assuming eden king is around, they're probably creatures of tje eden king pEyes

heady sequoia
#

Wait-
How do you know my-

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How

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HOW

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TELL HOW

lethal stump
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Imo, the King owned pet krills

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but that’s more a fun headcanon for me than serious

heady sequoia
#

triggered
HOW

tardy hollow
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Eden King has the krills. Like they owned the krills.pEyes

lethal stump
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beep, what’s wrong ?

tardy hollow
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Probably they're more spiky and looking at concept Eden King. Not surprised if its related.

heady sequoia
#

Boop know my real name >:0

rancid onyx
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is the eden king still canon?

turbid spade
#

ah, the fight between two propagandas.....pPopcorn

lethal stump
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Yes, the King is canon

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I think you should read this, Twig

heady sequoia
#

slaps boop with pure nail

rancid onyx
#

oh i read it

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i thought it said the king was some early concept stuff

lethal stump
#

No, the Prince is concept

rancid onyx
#

ah

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my bad

lethal stump
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we don’t know if the Prince is canon, but the King is

heady sequoia
#

Megan is my name tho. IM THE MEGA BIRD

rancid onyx
#

megan bird

heady sequoia
#

flappy flappy

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slap brick

lethal stump
#

Alright, let’s keep things on topic, guys

#

This is fun and all, but not the time or place

heady sequoia
#

Ok!

rancid onyx
#

talking about lore for this game is so weird

tardy hollow
#

I wonder what the spirits in hidden forest represent;pEyes

heady sequoia
#

Yep.

rancid onyx
#

"i interpreted it this way"
"huh its this way for me"
"ok"

tardy hollow
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I mean, there's no confirmed lore so its just a mish mash of headcanons pEyes

rancid onyx
#

it do be

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where's this

tardy hollow
#

So we kinda just make headcanons based on our observations in the game

rancid onyx
#

this chat is just people trying to sell other people on their takes

heady sequoia
#

Ah, in isle

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Ye

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Hrm,

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F i x e d

tardy hollow
#

Headcanon chats based on what we think of what did happened in sky kingdoms and how skykids came about pEyes

heady sequoia
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Is the eden king evil or does he regret what the hay happened

rancid onyx
#

oh yeah thats the only thing i dont have a take for yet

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what are we supposed to be

lethal stump
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coulda been a good guy. coulda been a jerk

heady sequoia
#

Aw....LETS MAKE A HEADCANNON ABOUT WHAT WE ARE

tardy hollow
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Not sure bout that..no idea on this eden king aside from theu probably own the krills. And theres statues of the king lying aroujd in rhe maps

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Of what assumed to be eden king

lethal stump
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Child of Light = Prince = King = Us

sinful anvil
#

i just hc the king/prince (idk) is the leader of elders until he discovered and dabbled in darkness, leading to creation of realms and technology then downfall

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but im still have difficulty connecting that to where skykids come from

tardy hollow
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We're just stars who fall from the sky and become sentient

rancid onyx
#

oh i thought we were supposed to be sentient

tardy hollow
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We are probably stars who become sentient and become skykids. Cuz we did started out as falling stars pEyes

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If u first play the game i mean

sinful anvil
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we didnt start out w wings tho

rancid onyx
#

im not sure if that makes sense

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given the symbolism of stars and spirits

lethal stump
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stars are elders, and skids and elders are separate tho

sinful anvil
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and we didnt return to the stars in the orbit

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i think that the lost stars are the statues in eden...

heady sequoia
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We are stars, smaller ones.
Nothing that could compare to the bright
Light of elders. Then the elders feLl, and the sky became weaker.

rancid onyx
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thing is

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every spirit that is a star regains a trait

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or some personality

tardy hollow
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The shiny boys we picked up are probably the lost stars thays why we have to go thru eden to save them pEyes

heady sequoia
#

Yeah!

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Exactly!

rancid onyx
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the only thing a fresh off kid can do is light and share right

heady sequoia
#

Yeah

rancid onyx
#

we are supposed to commune with the spirits

tardy hollow
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I mean, when u entered the point of no return, there's a description that says "Return the light of the fallen"

rancid onyx
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and bring the elders together

heady sequoia
#

Return the light to the fallen.

sinful anvil
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makes a lot of sense

heady sequoia
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With hand in hand, ascend.

tardy hollow
#

Ah sorry. I got the words mixed up.But something like that.

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And as u ascend to.orbit u did see those lost skykids flying with u.

cedar citrus
#

Does anyone know the next ts?

rancid onyx
#

the lost skykids look different from us

tardy hollow
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Along with some of ur friends in there.hmpThink

heady sequoia
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Maybe the mega birb (me) sent them to bring lost stars home. They did yeet themselves to the stars ;-;

rancid onyx
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their wings come out of their backs

heady sequoia
#

Maybe we were sent....to bring everyone home....even the elders....

tardy hollow
#

Does anyone know the next ts?
@cedar citrus 20th August. last i checked

heady sequoia
#

Us, the uber

sinful anvil
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mb elders are staying out of spacetime

lethal stump
tardy hollow
#

And this place is a bit weird to ask this.

cedar citrus
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@tardy hollow Ik but does anyone know what spirit it is yet

tardy hollow
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No

cedar citrus
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Oof

heady sequoia
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N o

lethal stump
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No, we don’t know until it’s announced

cedar citrus
#

When do we know

lethal stump
rancid onyx
cedar citrus
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:’(

sinful anvil
cedar citrus
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Ok ty

sinful anvil
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but not here

heady sequoia
#

How does megan look like-

sinful anvil
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mb megabirb took king’s souls and fused them w light to create skykids...

willow shoal
#

this pattern means light?

lethal stump
#

Concepts & In game

willow shoal
#

ohhh, yeah that’s megan

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megan works in a mysterious way, and many of its details are still unknown

rancid onyx
#

thats supposed to be a bird?

polar obsidian
#

Wait,, the megabird is in game?!

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W o a h

willow shoal
#

megan is more likely to be a god that administers light in the universe

lethal stump
#

its up to your interpretation

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things getting heated in the sky religion

polar obsidian
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It lowkey looks like a supernova or black hole though. pEyes

kind bobcat
#

Megabird is more likely to be an abstract entity

#

the megabird we see could be a part of it

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The megabird could be an embodiment or symbolization of the rebirth cycle

humble bear
#

What's a megabird?

lethal stump
polar obsidian
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WAIT stars are supposed to be formed in molecular clouds. What if that’s what megabird is? : O

kind bobcat
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Nebulae?

willow shoal
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i guess maybe megan is not only the center of light, but the administration of all souls in the universe

rancid onyx
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so mega bird is the afterlife

willow shoal
#

i confuse why there’s a candle as the final credits ends

heady sequoia
#

I will never stop thinking about "what i have powers?"
When i hear someone using the term megan fot mega birb

willow shoal
#

it wants to show us these all things in sky even the universe is in this small light in human world?

heady sequoia
#

Omg what

rancid onyx
#

oh god

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please

#

i can't handle this right now

tender dune
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it wants to show us these all things in sky even the universe is in this small light in human world?
If someone blows on that candle will megan and all of us die

heady sequoia
#

The krill yeets dark dust in its wake
Wait...
Maybe the king coated a few light dragons in darkstone dust and laughs as the light trys to absorb light to remove the darkstone dust. Dark stone likes light so it has a firm grip

tender dune
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Krill tempura

heady sequoia
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If someone blows on that candle will megan and all of us die
@tender dune
I dont wanna die, im the most powerful being the universe-
Me- megan? Idk

willow shoal
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when Light creature such aspWhale pJellyfish pManta pButterfly pCosmicManta get corrupted by the darkness, they will become dark creature (krillhead pCrab ), darkness could effect environment too

heady sequoia
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So it spreads....king's plan slapped him

rancid onyx
#

i really like how good creature is based on nice ocean creatures

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and evil creatures are crustaceans

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thats a nice thing

heady sequoia
#

O

tender dune
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And the crustaceans who are supposed to be small are huge

rancid onyx
#

thats just videogames

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i wouldn't read much into it

tender dune
willow shoal
#

i wouldn't read much into it
@rancid onyx i suggest u to look the concept art by official designer

rancid onyx
#

oof

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alright

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got a link

willow shoal
lethal stump
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concept art is in the pins

rancid onyx
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oh this is beautiful

surreal helm
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Kinda looks like a Phoenix, imo. I guess that ties in with the rebirth concept of the game (ok, i gotta get back to work haha)

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I mean megabirb

rancid onyx
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looks like they were gonna be more enemies/npcs early on

willow shoal
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yeah, sky changed a lot in version updates

rancid onyx
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oh my god

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what is this

sinful gull
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THERE IS SO MUCH MORE EDEN STORY CONCEPT ART THAN I THOUGHT I AM SHAKING

rancid onyx
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close down the lore channel

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this is it

lethal stump
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watching moths find the concepts is so heartwarming

willow shoal
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megan and its life cycle

sinful gull
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IM NOT EVEN A MOTH I DONT LNOW WHY IVE NEVER SEEN TOMS WEBSITE IM LOSING IT RIGHT NOW

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HOW DID I NOT KNOW

lethal stump
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We don’t know if all concepts are canon or not, so we can’t just call them all canon

rancid onyx
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imagine not being a moth

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i mean i know its not all canon

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i can tell some concepts were reworked

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but i think that venn diagram is good to go off of

lethal stump
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and also some are very old, others are newer

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the game has been in development 7 years

rancid onyx
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jesus

sinful gull
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but it could be the closest insight to canon we have right now
maybe some things have changed but maybe some things they decided to keep

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we don’t really know for sure

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so i don’t think they’re canon but at the same time i don’t think they’re not canon

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If that makes sense

willow shoal
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when i was a sky moth, in my first time exploring this world, i felt like there must be many stories and puzzles SkyLOL SkyLOL

rancid onyx
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by looking at the ideas that were tossed around we can have deeper insight into the lore

willow shoal
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in some questions we can ask Jenova for help haha

rancid onyx
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oh you're joking

willow shoal
rancid onyx
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an actual dev is actually here

lethal stump
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I don’t think Mr Chen comes onto lore chat

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Ktjn, Ash, and Reika do though

willow shoal
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yeah, i mean talk with him privately

orchid crypt
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jenova himself descending upon us may be something to worry about according to FF7's lore pEyes

lethal stump
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Things for the Chinese server isn’t the same as the world server, we don’t get to talk with Mr Chen

orchid crypt
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but yeah, i don't believe he's part of this discord

rancid onyx
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jenova coming here and giving us a ten paragraph breakdown

willow shoal
lethal stump
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that would be the end of lore chat

willow shoal
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lore chat should be continued foreverstickerHeart stickerHeart pSkyHeart

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for endless theories and brain storm

rancid onyx
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honestly

sinful gull
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if jenova chen came to the lore chat i would simply Pass Away

lethal stump
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if i ever got to meet Jenova Chen i would also pass away

hushed steeple
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Is the music when u reach orbit and the music from isle of dawn the same or different

orchid crypt
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depends on your idea of "same/different" -- there're shared leitmotifs, but it's not the exact same soundtrack/song

hushed steeple
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I see

willow shoal
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the clouds are really the same yea

orchid crypt
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i didn't actually recognise most of isle of dawn's other music sounding very similar to anything heard during ascent

willow shoal
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so where’s “Home” in world map?

lethal stump
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what do you think ?

sinful gull
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i feel like home is in a completely separate space from the rest of the sky world

orchid crypt
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it feels that way for it to connect to all the realms, yeah

rancid onyx
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magic teleportation

orchid crypt
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you could argue that it's very far off the shores of isle of dawn and daylight prairie since you can find large bodies of water in both those realms, but you need to OOB out of prairie to really see its one scratch that last bit, sanctuary's waters are really easy to see

willow shoal
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what do you think ?
@lethal stump center of sky world?

lethal stump
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there’s large bodies of water OOB no matter where you are

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OOB floor is water

orchid crypt
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it's not the same in all maps from what i can tell -- most areas of wasteland have nothing under them

lethal stump
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nope, they have polluted water

orchid crypt
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same with valley -- the only spot i'm aware of with a giant plane of water underneath it is the last zone at the temple

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wasteland's water doesn't stretch across the entire screen as far as i can tell, both the forgotten ark and graveyard sections have clearly limited planes for certain parts of the map

willow shoal
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yeah, the OOB forest is clouds and void, but still has rained

orchid crypt
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they're very different to the endless water you see on isle or valley temple's OOB

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hmm, that's probably not a good frame of reference to base lore conjecture on actually, even different parts of daylight prairie lack the endless water plane now that i think of it

lethal stump
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oob in general is sketchy

willow shoal
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All sky souls come from megan, all things were parts of megan, but only few ancients saw it ever, most stories about it are legends

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the ancient mostly saw megan i think is the ferryman

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according to editor’s texts, someone stopped prince mining dark stone, and isle elder’s mask is broken. he is the ferryman

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so i think daleth (isle elder) knew the truth and the effects darkness brought them, so he stopped prince but failed, then he was punished, that’s why his mask is broken

jade river
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Megan??

lethal stump
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Megabird nickname

jade river
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Deleth?

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Oh

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Do they have names?

willow shoal
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yeah

lethal stump
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Isle: Daleth (ד)
Prairie: Ayin (ע)
Forest: Teth (ט)
Valley: Samekh (ס)
Wasteland: Tsadi (צ)
Vault: Lamed (ל)
Prince/Not Corrupt King: Alef (א)
Corrupt King: Resh (ר)
PLEASE NOTE: These names have appeared in concept art and are often used when referring to the elders. They are no longer canon, they are fanon.

jade river
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Lmao i missed lots of things in lore chat lol

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Damm

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So we will use them here on stick with "isle elder"

lethal stump
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pardon ?

jade river
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Nah, doesent matter lol

lethal stump
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??

willow shoal
jade river
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so i think daleth (isle elder) knew the truth and the effects darkness brought them, so he stopped prince but failed, then he was punished, that’s why his mask is broken
@willow shoal punished and exiled to isle

So he tries to guide and iluminate skykids to embarc towards eden

willow shoal
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maybe

edgy sequoia
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so uh

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the valley twins share the same name?

lethal stump
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yes

edgy sequoia
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ohh

wintry ginkgo
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Yeah, that’s fair. I really just wanted to talk about the idea of Journey and Sky being part of the same universe. Would you like me to take the art down?

lethal stump
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Journey and Sky, canonically, aren’t in the same universe
however if you want to headcanon, go ahead !

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Idc what you do with the art

delicate coral
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I think it’s kind of interesting how the light pads on those dead trees don’t disappear but become kind of husks like this

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I’m assuming those are the light pads anyway

upbeat bay
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Looks like mushrooms to me

polar obsidian
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I always... assumed the light pads.... were mushrooms :, )

lethal stump
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same, they look to be

willow shoal
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light mushrooms

mild lark
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What is the main topics?

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They look like mushroom tho

turbid spade
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different kind of mushroom

delicate coral
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Oh lol I never made the connection that they’re just mushrooms

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Either way I think it’s quite interesting that they solidify into the tree material when they die

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Which seems to be a similar reaction that skykids have at death maybe?

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Since (I assume) we turn into those husks in Eden

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Not sure where other light creatures like mantas come into that though

willow shoal
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editor said when the light mushroom gets corrupted, it will become dark plant

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but i don’t think it’s true

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we still don’t know some details about this like how these mushrooms grow, why they only live in forest

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and if everybody has its corrupted one, some light creature (such as pWhale pJellyfish pManta pButterfly pCosmicManta ) still can’t find its antithesis

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  • Light Creature—lc, Dark Creature—dc

Isle lc: pButterfly pManta
Prairie lc:pButterfly pManta pJellyfish
Forest lc:pManta pJellyfish pWhale
Forest dc:pCrab
Valley lc:pManta
Valley dc:pCrab
Wasteland lc:pManta pButterfly
Wasteland dc:pkrilleye pCrab
Vault lc:pManta pCosmicManta
Eden & Orbit lc:pButterfly pManta pJellyfish pWhale
Eden & Orbit dc:pCrab pkrilleye

lethal stump
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tuna king might not be a LC

willow shoal
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what’s tuna king

lethal stump
willow shoal
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whales?

lethal stump
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not a whale

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it’s a fish

willow shoal
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why it isn’t lc

lethal stump
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it can badly damage you

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like as krill does

hushed steeple
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It's a natural creature

willow shoal
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but it shouldn’t be dc

lethal stump
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it’s neither

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like us

hushed steeple
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It's not dc even not lc

willow shoal
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okay

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but it had helped ancients fight against the darkness

hushed steeple
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I feel like crabs were also a natural creature like whale (sanc friendly crabs)

lethal stump
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we don’t know that for sure, johnny

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that’s an old concept

delicate coral
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It doesn’t regenerate your light when you touch it

willow shoal
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I feel like crabs were also a natural creature like whale (sanc friendly crabs)
@hushed steeple nope, they aren’t friendly at all

hushed steeple
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Huh?

delicate coral
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If you’re speedy enough you can touch it during ascent to orbit and it doesn’t regen light

willow shoal
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i agree, if a creature can spread light or flame, it must be light creature

delicate coral
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Therefore pWhale are not light creatures

edgy sleet
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They've never hurt anyone though. They just vibing

hushed steeple
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They're not dark as well.. i noticed dark creatures have some dark dust / dandruff on their body

delicate coral
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Yeah they aren’t dark either I think

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Neutral or hybrids

willow shoal
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if a creature carried no light, how could it enter the holy land?

delicate coral
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If it’s a hybrid it could, since sky kids are also hybrids and we can go to orbit

edgy sleet
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Joke theory: The dark creatures are violent because they have really bad dandruff and their heads are so itchy but they can't reach to scratch it. Now their tempers are very short :P

willow shoal
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i remember only light creature can enter the orbit and completely rebirth

delicate coral
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Why can sky kids do it then

hushed steeple
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Hey skykids can itch their head..... And they also get dandruff while dying👀

delicate coral
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Sky kids are hybrids, not completely light

willow shoal
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because skykids carry flame

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flame or light is like a pass to the holy land

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that’s why we can’t see any dark creature or corrupted souls in orbit

hushed steeple
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I think with cape skykids becomes light creature, without that it's not

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I noticed in orbit we can't use SkyGoTeam emote until we get wingbuffs

willow shoal
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why we need to enter eden? because we need to use winged light to save the trapped souls, as we lose all our light, we will fall into mind, hug with ourselves, then we are charged fully again and become stronger.

hushed steeple
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We hug with the kingpkrilleye

willow shoal
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but confused, who was trapped

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in eden

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all the lives’ power are becoming stronger and stronger as they grow, in the holy land they are in their strongest and most powerful. after rebirth their knowledge and experiences are left in megan, only souls remain, now they are weakest and need ferryman to help guide them

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about souls, i think its impregnable
can’t be destroyed, only can be corrupted

wintry ginkgo
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You know, it always seems that when we lose our light, we have the experience with the hugging kid, and then we break out and leave for orbit. I propose that in fact, we do not free ourselves, but in fact, the glowing kid is the person after us that gives us their winged light, and it is in fact, the act of giving so freely, something so essential, that causes us to break free and fly to orbit. Perhaps the hug is to symbolize the woefully fleeting and yet everlastingly intimate warmth and affection that only two strangers can have, when all other hope is lost

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Had an Epiphany, sorry

willow shoal
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different people have different opinions
editor said those glowing statues were soldiers, they fought with darkness until the last moment
i guess when the epic ark exploded, they were in eden fighting with darkness, the explosion effected them and they were trapped by the darkness just like the king

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what do you think, guys?

wispy canopy
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I think the glowing statues were the kids before us whom spirits which are winged light are everywhere, so like their spirits went as far away from Eden but that's why it explains why there Is so many of them at Eden in a hallway, when we die we leave our physical forms and we meet another who was willing to share the light or give it to us, once we re eived it, we become the connected, when we enter sky, a physical form burns or dries over us and thus our physical forms

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We could possibly be just a soul receiving and losing light and gaining and losing physical form, like when we die, we lose the light and our physical form, but when we get the light, and go down to sky we gain both light and physical form

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So we could possibly be a medium of sorts that allows to break life and death,

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But ofc we must fa e both life and death

wintry ginkgo
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Technically Sky kids could be considered the soldiers fighting darkness until the last moment

wispy canopy
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That's true, since we burn away much darkness and the very fact that we are light

stone rivet
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SkyKids are just a tool used to fight the darkness

willow shoal
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omg, i heard a new theory about whales and krills

wintry ginkgo
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Spill

willow shoal
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whales is the escalation of mantas, when they died in a improper way, their skeletons will be left (proper way is to rebirth in orbit). if their skeletons are corrupted, the skeletons will become the krill

wintry ginkgo
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Wow. That’s a big oof for the skeleton in Forest then, I suppose

willow shoal
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yeah

mild lark
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If darkness hates light.. then why don't they invent massive flashlight

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Jk

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There is not electricity on sky...

peak locust
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The sun

mild lark
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but they do have thunder and lightning tho.. meaning that they have some charged current

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The sun is not a proper flashlight

peak locust
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Quiet

mild lark
peak locust
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Tis an amazing flashlight

sweet dirge
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Everyone is t h o n k

mild lark
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Maybe they haven't found a magnet yet

peak locust
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So they have flying boats that can steer itself but not electricity

mild lark
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You see when you invented something... You gonna stick to it..
Which if they invented the power diamond which can levitate and produce lift ....
Demand for a new kind of power is basically nothing

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Basically there's no reason for electricity...

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Where is that boop?

peak locust
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Can normal spirits make sound

mild lark
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Inside the whole?

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Hole*

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Hmm ok

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I'll check it out when Im free

willow shoal
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ohhh first time to discover that holepEyes

mild lark
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Also it has that black dandruff...
Or whatever you called it..
That black thing is the same as when you about to die on eden..

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The same thing happen even if you lit yourself back...
For this effect to happen..
I think you need to get hit by the rock storm first.. go unlit and the black thing will start falling off your body even if you lit yourself back

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And that rock storm will be red when it the ground..

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I'm trying to conclude my theory but I don't know how to tie things up

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So maybe there is a connection for why this is happening?
Power diamond sucks our light and the black thing start falling...
We get hit by the storm and the same thing happen.....
It sort of contradict back and forth.
Maybe the power diamond receive light and the black dandruff just fall off? Just like how we burn dark plants?
Is it that the darkness is escaping from it?
But that contradict to why there the same black dandruff on our skykid when we are about to die.
Is darkness yeet itself out of our body? But why?
Or is it that darkness is growing inside our skykid? That has full of light? I thought that black dandruff is afraid of light...
So yeah it contradict back and forth...
If you can clear this theory go ahead. Ping me

tender dune
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the big diamond just vibrates and thanos snaps the whole wedges (i touched the big ones before stickerEmbarrassed )

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so u lose all light

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the black dandruff is found flying everywhere in eden

static spoke
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I think that the black particles are like a fungus. They grow, corrupting everything that they touch.

tender dune
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even before entering eden

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im guessing the eden dandruff sticks to us when we lose our light then when we get lighted up/recharge the dandruff kinda melts away

restive ember
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What are the children exactly?

tender dune
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black particles same as krill dandruff

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thats cuz we're technically still in eden

pseudo lagoon
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can someone teach my dumdum brain about theories abt the seventh star

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use the search thing and look up seventh star for this chat

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yeaa

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i wanna see him :,)

tender dune
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doesnt exist anymore tho

pseudo lagoon
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i know

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makes me@sad

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yeah i saw that

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okay i don’t know if anyone knows steven universe but it kind of reminds me of how things break apart, once things go back together everything can be okay again and krills are just.. corrupted sky kids, maybe multiple of them

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it’s not an uncommon story line but it really does seem similar, along with krills

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maybe they’re just lost sky kids who are corrupted by.. something

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i don’t know what

static spoke
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What if you can’t fix it?

pseudo lagoon
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in the show i was talking about, the diamonds (basically the royalty) all come together to help the corrupted gems and use their powers to help

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and true

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we don’t know of those powers in sky

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though we can fly with a damb c a p e so anything is possible lmao

static spoke
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How else would you fly?

pseudo lagoon
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i mean

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i first thought the cape was wings when i was a moth

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yeah but like it’s a ca pe

static spoke
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How do superheroes fly?

pseudo lagoon
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they have powers

static spoke
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With a cape

pseudo lagoon
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but it isn’t their cape

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our cape is what makes us actually fly

static spoke
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YES!

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No CAPES!

pseudo lagoon
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h uh pEyes

static spoke
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(Except for the pretty ones)

pseudo lagoon
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much confuse

static spoke
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That’s ok

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Lore can be confusing

pseudo lagoon
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it is 😭

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but think if you had a cape irl

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it’s

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cloth

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but the light makes it able to fly?

static spoke
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It’s probably cloth in game as well

pseudo lagoon
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the cape is just secretly made out of wl that pushie pushie B)

static spoke
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The only reason we can’t fly in real life is because we have no winged light

restive ember
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Mabby krill are the enbodyment of death in sky and thats why they lurk around in eden and the wastland

pseudo lagoon
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i said before i think they’re corrupted 👀

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maybe the eden elder is toxic and just an overall evil person, made the stars fall and corrupted the krills in the meantime and decided to use them as his guards ig

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wasteland may just be where they were accident

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but he decided to use them in eden since they’re useful

static spoke
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Eden Elder=The King

pseudo lagoon
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oo maybe