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And all of this theories rain started with a chonky moth picture
??
Now this I’m confused about
Buff moth was jus something that was added like....ehh 2 months ago

I think tom is talking about that poodle moth/Gratitude fur cape comparison
Yes thank you
ooooooh
Welcome to lore, where we have 5 different conversations at once
and very little canon



oh, Reika is the king. We do have that though please note new people, this was a joke
also i’m sad no one brought up unreliable narrator & mind control theory earlier
What mind control theory?
Unreliable narrator was kinda brought up
Did i hear control theory?
mind control theory
I figured let the lore moth get a lil deeper before I mentioned mind control theory
What if the eden was the aftermath of a rocket
All theories are welcome 
Brick is using my discord ID in the pic. This is different than calling me "ferral" or "Please call me"
all theories including our weird crack ones
mind control isn’t even my weirdest theory/headcanon
I'm making a theory with Reika as the king and megabird, but that might be a bit out there
Brick does regularly call me Null in convo
it's canon at least in the lore channel if we take Reika literally 
I shall help you wren
We will find out everything
Welcome to lore where I hardly have a clue what I am talking about but will debate it fiercely

not sure if it's just that way to provide contrast and amplify the look of wind, but I thought it was interesting that the wind was dark
ah
Im sure it has something to do with it being storm wind instead of regular wind
whatever that means 
hmm, maybe
wind comes from the diamond 
thanks
immortal glitch
woosh
so wind comes from atmospheric temerature
hot air and cold air create convection currents and then, woosh i guess
Perhaps the diamond is so hot that it created it's own atmosphere with hot winds, which creates that convection with the cooler winds
though by the way we act in Eden, it seems more like wind
if we're going with the explosion theory, it could be that it's still exploding
and we're feeling the force of the continual explosion
perhaps
Question: Is Eden hot or cold?
h o t
yeah, I also think it's hot. Some people say it's cold
oof ouch spicy diamond
very spicy diamond(s)
I mean heat is often a biproduct of light and vice versa
In old beta when the blue eden was the thing
Everyone used to think it was cold
the colors definitely seem to shift the perception of it
And they thought they darkstone crystals that grew out of us were Ice crystals
Ah I miss testing
though a few people who didn't play beta also thought it was cold
old beta looked really cool
Maybe the beginning of Eden is cold but gets warmer the closer you get to the diamond?
Seems like it tbh
oooh, that could be a possibility
The first area of Eden isn’t as red
doesn't it get redder the closer you get?
It’s seems like a cold spot actually where you would shiver
And of course as u get to the more energized parts of eden, it gots hot
blue fire is the hottest doe
Hm I never thought of this b4
when I first joined official, I thought Eden was like a volcano
the red rocks
i thought it was a crater
the spiciness of the red rocks
the only thing that was missing in the volcano theory was, you know, lava
It sort of resembled it with the frozen petrified kids
that was one of my thoughts at first as well
Why are candles unique?
Like how Pompeii had leftover ash bodies that showed their last moments
dont forget stone spirits
I always got that vibe when I saw the kids
you mean for the first time?
we are freeing them from their clay/stone prison
after that, they just remain in spirit, or they're replaced by holograms
cries in trying to reconcile game mechanics with lore
Yes, but i mean why wouldn't they always be there until we free them
perhaps it has to do with our fire
could be Special™ fire
what if our fire is from the megabird itself?
Why are they trapped in stone anyways? its not like their bodies are in there, and stone dosent usually appear out of thin air
I think I had a (maybe crack??? don't remember) theory about that
lemme see if I can find it
Maybe the stone was not really there, but rather part of how they force themselves into stable them form?
please elaborate
Or maybe living their memories pulls them into our timespace
I suppose
ah, my theory was about the skykids turning to stone in Eden
deserts during the night get extremely cold, so maybe krill like it cold
so eden might be cold?
The two things candles/fire encompass two elements, heat and light, both of which could be present if eden is exothermic, yet we dont regenerate our light wedges anywhere except under the presence of fire
Theory 1: they are unstable when we first find them. They're there, but having difficulty remembering themselves. We live their memories and they piece themselves together, but they need a physical representation. We offer light amd they become stable
@hushed steeple also the deeper you are in eden, the harder it is to recharge
Calls weaken
But we never touch the eden diamond, which is separated by a wind wall
Well here’s one speculation
They have the black flakes 
The way we regenerate is by touching or being in very close proximity to a light source
one of my theories/headcanons is that when the spirits died or whatever, they were "corrupt" and could not ascend to the light as they were too dark. The corruption manifested physically at death and surrounded them with the covering that could only be broken from our fire
and the wind wall keeps us away
ah, that makes sense wren, ties into jay's statement too
Oh
oh, the eden diamond may factor into the theory as well as I think about it. The Eden diamond corrupted the Sky kingdom and caused the physical corruption of the spirits, much like it tries to do to us as well. Except, we have the inner light (maybe connection to megabird and/or child of light) that shatters the husk from the inside on our own
could also explain why the statues in Eden (the fallen) couldn't save themselves. They didn't have light
we have to return it to them
What is the green fire hovering over the statues?
iirc, it's more of a green tint on the statues
the flame appears after we give wl to them
???? I think I needa go to eden more
from Nastymold's Eden guide
the flame is literally from the winged light
bless nastymold
there's no green flame
Flame shows up as blue, statue starts looking green instead of blue
just a greenish tint on the unlit statues
the greenish light on the unlit ones may be more for visual cues than anything else
What’s this lantern for?
lighting
if you can manage to get there with light, you can use it as a light source
I think you have to use warp to light it though
wait, after all this time the ground’s still tiled??
oh the irony
Oh I did lit. Using fast recharge spell. Died anyway.
I guess you can theoretically use it as a light source
and you're right. it doesn't look particularly useful
I wonder about signs on the pottery.
probably destroys your light faster than the lamp can replenish it
what signs?
am curious
oh, is that Pineswood?
no need to spoiler, friend 
yea this is spoiler friendly chat
But we start with cosmetics unchanged
identical forms
Just in terms of storyline, my theory is that sky kid are guiding the missing soul/ fallen statues back to the mega bird.
Perhaps because we left our stuff to our decendants?
so the skykid i started out is long gone. nice.
i found something very strange
wasteland and forest have many things in common
for example, wasteland upper swamp has huge broken machine against the left wall, and its really similar to forest temple machine
my theory is in ancient time before the epic battle, wasteland is also a place to produce power diamond
Both of their descriptions also involve finding something that comes afterwards
yeah, forest temple is a power diamond factory, and it’s implied wasteland was a heavily industrial area
many people believe they were part of a production line of sorts
light is harvested in prairie, darkstone is mined in forest, and it’s put together in wasteland/forest temple
Yk
Even tho I expanded that theory for a long time
I never rlly thought about darkstone being the second material
hmmmmm
THANKS BRICK

hey uh
I just counted
one of the Graveyard krill has 9 sets of legs, as does Shipwreck krill
@lethal stump oh really...
My counting skill failed me...
krill legs?

What does the four point star on the prince/king's crown represent, I remember seeing it somewhere but I am not sure where exactly.
Well there goes my other theory I put up, time to start over
this doesnt have to b answered, but im still incredulous. i was exploring the 2p door in vault and when u find a child of light in about 2nd floor down, there’s a ladder nearby. when u go up there’s another fella perched on the shelf! what is it doing there?! it’s smaller than us so how did it jump that high
and its about one section away from that light child
imprints of memories wound up at funny places
Does anyone know what Megabird might look like?
this doesnt have to b answered, but im still incredulous. i was exploring the 2p door in vault and when u find a child of light in about 2nd floor down, there’s a ladder nearby. when u go up there’s another fella perched on the shelf! what is it doing there?! it’s smaller than us so how did it jump that high
@sinful anvil
He might have invisible cape👀
This is in-game megabird
That... doesn’t really look like a bird, I’m not gonna lie
All hail the god....
Megan
It's kind of abstract, but look at the angled part in the top-middle-right of the pic as the head/beak, with the feathered arms spreading down from that and the tail looping around to the other side
not a bird literally
There are other pics of the Megabird in the concepts that look even less bird-like, more of a big light blob
this is probably the Most Birb she has ever been
Since in the tomcepts she's just drawn as a big swirl of bright lines
this doesnt have to b answered, but im still incredulous. i was exploring the 2p door in vault and when u find a child of light in about 2nd floor down, there’s a ladder nearby. when u go up there’s another fella perched on the shelf! what is it doing there?! it’s smaller than us so how did it jump that high
@sinful anvil um
That’s jus an unlit player wearing a chibi mask
i collected them though
see that sparkle
I know ur talking about that
im saying how the winged light ended up here
OHHHHH I THOUGHT U WERE TALKING ABOUT THE PLAYER NEXT TO THE WINGED LIGHT MY BAD 
I was like, yo that’s jus a normal player 
ya its my wording’s fault partially
But um, about ur speculation on him being smaller then the other winged lights
I might have to check that out
no i feel like every wl is smaller than me
i think my avatar looked down
tho every skykid’s height is diff
Ur confusing me now
i was about to say i feel like winged light is shorter than the skykid, then i realized every skykid’s height is different
so maybe some are shorter than winged lights but im not sure if they can be that short
I think you gain height by using resize potions, I used one today, and the message was you feel a little taller
Pale is talking about winged lights
WL are starting height
And yes they can be that short, there’s a cosmetic called the chibi mask pale
So
so i assumed every wl is shorter than skykid. i was like if it was small how was it able to perch at that shelf
... ok chibi mask, cant argue against here
Like the tp things at home
uhh i got a vid recorded
Awesome
it was bascilly us chilling and glitching the hell out of orbit
Its not really a pillar
Its like the arches
We tp thru
to diffrent realms
If you look carefully, the alternate perspective of the megabird is its outline traces a droplet. Like our droplet on top of the light wedges UI.
it did not upload normally did it
no
Ok gimme a sec
I wonder in orbit why we can't use
emote.
hm
Yeah jay
For some reason, when you are out of light, out fire, you can use the normal candle emote but not the
emote, technically they are the same thing
I've pic
Not*
Yeah thas better, send pic
Hi guys, so I was just flying over battlefield looking for the king statue, and notice that it looks like 2 have the same head as the king but one doesn't. Just an observation is all
Its because u dont have enough light to light the torxh and ur self?
You need light to use the
emote
But apparently not the regular candle emote
Will it work once u get some wing buffs Amio?
Didn't noticed
Unless I'm not at the right angle? Hmmm I may need to get up there to be sure
One time, there was an old update where me and my friend rocketed at orbit for like an hour
And the view
Nah my friend and i were piggy back buggyin
If u flew to where the ending of orbit is
......was jus amazing
Sadly this was on my old phone
U know it looks more like the megabirb created us
/who did megan uh... did the thing to make eggs then
THERE ARE BIRDS EVERYWHERE
Megan doesnt need anyone to make eggs
and yes megan made us
Megabirb is literally a god so she wont need any help creating some eggs 
/or does she 
And i suggest we stay away from that topic
whot topic
That
If she made us then the narrator is definitely megan👀
what
we got on the topic of gender and biology earlier and it was borderline rule breaking
/maybe megan made another person and that person talked to us
/i have theory megan cant talk
U know i feel more like mega bird just made us so we can drag the frickening elders and some spirits that are left up
/megan honk
U know i feel more like mega bird just made us so we can drag the frickening elders and some spirits that are left up
@bleak basin That's.. why she made us.
Most theories and headcanons suggest megabirb made us to bring back the elders and lost spirits
Its close to canon, since bascilly the intro tells u find the lights thats needs tobe relite
But i do wonder why elder ascension is diffrent per skykid
Like if u finsh a constalation then yes the elder would greet u
FOR NON GAME MECHANIC PURPOSES
/more like most theory says god made us to clean up stuff
If we take reika seriously then she hatches skykids from eggs
imo, there’s one canonical skid
multiplayer is game mechs
In The Egg story, everyone in the universe is you
your children, your parents, your partner, your friends
they're all you
please no
gasp
/so that skid who shoo me when i took his piano practice place is also me
HAHAHAHAHAHA
y e s
And that moth who just got krilled behind me is also me?

it's not canon, so you should be fine 
Honestly
Is the megabird us?
@hushed steeple Maybe, maybe not
Goober beat me to reference the egg
My stupid headcanon is we only got 8
h . a
8 kids
I was trying to quote a quote
We are everything, yet nothing
Are we the krills? The manta? The crabs? The rock?
@hushed steeple /~dwayne jonhson~
/wait how to do strikethrough
Time to bring out the markdown cheatsheet
bruh skybot deleted my link
@kind bobcat /yo goober try replace the "." with dot
We are Bricky
you know i have a stupid idea that the whale and the manta are the same creature
/aaaaaaaaaaaaaa za benyaaaaaaaaaa
/ah
As expected
/no it's not
Unless we bring something cursed we cant do anything to revive it
Are you immune to propaganda?
Which propaganda u talking about
King propaganda
maybe
I want more Lore!
/wait i deleted the pic
tbh, I'mm too busy being propoganda to be immune to it
/the pic with the king

The King
Or, if recent ccrack theory is to be believed, MEGAN FROM THE TOP DOWN
NO NO LEAVE TI THAT MADE ME LAUGH TO CRY
what the heck
The theory is that Megan essentially forced the king to be shaped in her image
So all the king propoganda we see isn't king propoganda, but Megan propoganda
the “king/eden” light goes out at last
Meaning probibly eden area is the last to be hit with whatever the hell they did
🤔
That has recovered
Isle was hit with it the most
Thats the reason it is all sand :D
Makes sense according to your theory
I think that’s just to do with the fact only isle is accessible at the start ??
#King&Teth4ever
||Eden is called Eye of Eden (obviously). There's a saying called the eye of a storm, meaning the middle, or the calm place in a storm. Orbit is the Eye of eden.||
ymmv but: i dont like teth just doesnt look at us when she sends the light back. it’s like we don’t exist because she got her job done. and her stance before taking your light? i dont like that one bit.
thats not how you stand before a child. they may not be a child in some ways, but they behave like one.
I mean, its been years waiting for that light so, of course I'll forget you exist while i work the thing I've been waiting for my lifetime
Dont worry no spoiler tags here @ buzz, this channel talks about everything
Hey bud, what's the topic of the day
Still busy so i hang out between breaks
@tender dune got it bud, I've been taking a break from sky for a while
Dunno i just came in to back read some stuff
Hahah same here
Im always in sky xD just not at this time
Thought just see lore chat instead of opening sky
Are winglights those skykids that didn't make it to the end? Judging by how the wl before the point of no return look scared or exhausted.
Yea their in a way the kids that are the winged lights, when we go to Eden, we return it to them so they could be set free and when we die and somewhat take their place, we get
Reincarnated, like we basically become the connected, and we enter sky again, when we enter sky, our connected selves form into physical form thus allowing us to travel sky in that form henceforth and so the cycle continues
Some speculate that the winged lights are scattered parts of the king/prince or so
There are many theories
Tru that
The winglights in the end of no return literally dont care😂 i took pics of them and each one is staring somewhere without a care like the other winglights
I used to think they look down but nah, they're all staring upward but at different directions
One could say that their physical form is in Eden, but their astral or spiritual form is where we get the winged light
This is my character facing the way they're facing at
Notice how these winged light are all laying down?
One could say that their physical form is in Eden, but their astral or spiritual form is where we get the winged light
Then the numbers won't add up infinity
Ah ttyl
Nonetheless from what we know, these are somewhat their souls that help us thru our adventures, and at the end, we return them to their bodies so they can exist further to go to the great megabird. From here it's specualtion
MEGA BIRD
Ah ttyl
@tender dune the thing is ontw to Eden there are bodies that break down before we get to them, the places with krill, that just shows how many dead sky kids died there
So bodies that are there naturally are uncountable but specifically at the eye of Eden there is an amount
It's ideas vs the objective in this case
the
in eden is usually in casual stance
That in terms of story there is more bodies that broke and more kids that died here, but the objective has a specified amount of sky kids
but in other realm, it often looks up the sky
yeah
we still don't know why it looks at sky
maybe It's looking at its mother, the center of light----megabird?
Still infinity, with the amount of wl and the statues that broke/before stormlock. The number of statues is still less than the number of wl
Its like 4-6 statues before stormlock
88 WL
63 statues
Even if u add those 4-6 statues it will still be less than 88 wl
maybe It's looking at its mother, the center of light----megabird?
I used to think that they all stare at eden/orbit but after going to my wl run some are staring the opposite direction or random locations
I didn't screenshot it but when you go for a wl run look at the wl and what direction they stare at
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oh yes
l o r e
LOre is one of my favorite part of the game'
but I haven't read it yet
but ty anyway! ^^
Thanks bricky
i hear moff questions and i am immediately summoned
legit just ask « who’s the king » or something like that and i will probably appear
Also what's this shipping i heard of before I went to sleep

oh
you don’t want to know...
xD
personally it makes me very uncomfortable due to my personal headcanons
shipping? who is shipping what characters?
Don't mind it von
it’s just headcanoning and for fun
i know it is headcanon but it's just nice to know
scroll up a bit and you’ll find it
it wasn’t that long ago
lol i see
like i said, the specific ship mentioned makes me uncomfortable bc of my headcanons so i don’t feel ok directing others towards it >_>
Mhm
Not really an important discovery but these staffs are stored in the underground cavern in prairie
So ig they might serve some purpose beyond creating fireworks?
They could've been weapons since the saluting captain spirit has one, and i assume he's a soldier 
In the isle elder cutscene we see daleth capture light with the staff, it might be some sort of light handling device
yeah, they give me the impression of a tool moreso than a weapon considering that they're stored next to some pretty ordinary butterfly jars
Maybe it could shape light and apply it to a variety of purposes, including fireworks and perhaps weaponry
Fireworks were originally used to intimidate the enemy in battle
Maybe the staves started out as tools then became weapons when the war started? It often happens that way in real life
Unrelated, who's Megan? Is that a nickname for megabird or is it someone else?
lore chat's nickname for megabird or something, yeah
i see the staff as something more like a pitchfork myself: just a regular tool that you can use as a weapon if you really need to, but it wasn't originally designed with combat in mind assuming the staff can be applied like that
we see those staffs being used in the laugh spirit cutscene to catch animals/light
Tsadi holds our light with his spear the same way daleth does with his staff, which makes me think the spear is a modified staff or was based on the design of the staff
ah, another reason we need the ability to rewatch cutscenes, i've already forgotten about that 
So uh. I wanna catch up to you guys. Is there a lore dump?
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Come to think of it, what about the paddles used by the valley elders (whose names i forget)? They handle light in a way as well, or at least they're able to touch it
Thank you!
no problem 
Just checked the doc. Was there another name for the valley elders because they're twins or is it just samekh? Are they both called samekh in the lore channel fanon?
in the concepts, they were just called Samekh
most people split the name in half for each twin
Sam and ekh? Lol
personally, I call onigiri hair « Sam » and kakashi hair « Ekh »
but it’s not the same for everyone
Did tgc scrap the names before they decided to have the valley elder be twins?
They were twins right from the beginning
They always wanted them to be twins, that never changed
The names tho
They were scrapped long long ago
So even while they were using the names, there was only one name for two elders?
yeah
in the concepts we see with their names, the twins are only called « Samekh »
yes, the names are fanon at this point
Great Eden, I don’t like a quiet lore chat like this. Let’s stir something up...
« darkness came and the stars fell »
what do you think the darkness was ?
perhaps
I interpret it more as darkness being metaphorical
an idea, sentiment, person, etc.,
since, as you said, physical darkness is entirely natural so why would it cause the stars grief ?
cause them grief as in cause them to fall
I have a weird theory about the darkness, but I'm mostly basing it on stuff i found around isle... I think in the ancient past there were people who worshiped the stars, and the stars heard, and desired to leave the infinite light to teach the ancestors. And so they "fell," and mixed with earthly stuff so they lost their connection to the light...
Got the idea from the murals before you get your first winged light, and the murals that appear when you meet the first ancestor spirits
One of those trails becomes skykid boop i think
The ones that fell are most likely the elders
We were created after
Like even tho we see 6 stars fall, we see 7 worlds created (eden)
So im thinking maybe the stars created eden to compensate for their missing star??
we see 7, it’s just the last one comes after all the others and lands in eden
Ah ok
Oh, anyone with a recording of all the ancestor spirits? I tried looking on YouTube but I'm hoping they got more details, like in Isle
in the pins
Its in the pins
Ah great!
Isn't that gw?
I'm thinking too that the elders realized that they started losing power when they fell and became part flesh/earthy stuff. And so when they discovered that a certain mineral in the forest could absorb and radiate light, they started manufacturing power diamonds to "restore" their connection to the light
First line valley
I looked at the video and the line doesn't stop at gw
It goes down under in an island

The lines that fell. Doesn't this mean other kids fell but they fell in the worlds, we were the only ones who fell under the clouds
We were the 4th line in the video we're between the 2 lines on the right
The vids
sky is only the first chapter
yee
what if those other 3 lines are the other 3 chapters 

Like we even fell a bit after them
Maybe they didn't make it? Failed landing and so ded

this just feels like more proof for my CoL = Prince = King = Us theory
Yall Ive been yesterday in Eden and in Storm lock I found a boat. Sadly I couldnt get a picture, because of the storm 
Yes
ah, you’re probably seeing the fallen part of the statue
it’s been called a boat before, but it’s not
Oooooh
Yes
we see it fall off the statue at some point
was i the one who started the boat trend?
idk
Also, i remember seeing the arches collapse on a few of the rock kids in stormlock
guess they're indestructible

Skykid is strong.... They even withstand a krills charge with just losing some WL...
It's an updraft! Those can happen irl. It could be a lore thing maybe (might have to do with how they get all those rings to float), but it could also just be a thing where the air is rising just like it can help birds rise irl.
valleys tend to have natural updrafts
like the grand canon has a pretty big one i think ? don’t quote me on that
editor said in the clouds, there’s a huge and powerful air machine, but for unknown reasons why built it
editor ?
yeah, chinese server official editor
are they a dev ?
maybe

but these editors had asked Jenova Chen some questions before writing the texts
aight, interesting
We should probably consider it like we do really old concept art- We don't know for sure if it's canon right now or not, so it can be helpful for theorizing but not the end all be all.
one of them once said to me, Jenova only told them some of the back story, not all. so some details need us to guess 😂
they too
so she thinks sky is a puzzle game 
/lolz
/boi was she wrong
/yall what's with the mushrooms in ark?
/i mean, it used to be a cool bug that gives you candles but also it appears in the memories
/why is it ark exclusive
I missed all the Lore!
However, I assume that the mushrooms are edible because they had a farm, so they were kind of struggling for food. They would take what they could get.
Hey guys what's the topic
What mushrooms are used for.
Are mushrooms really baby darkplants hmm

Teth!
Heyo
I know its probably just the sound of the crystal vibrating on the pipe but they sound like someone is screaming (in eden)
The small ones slowly drain our light but the big one just charges up and thanos snaps our light
dont ask why i know
But the ones in stormlock take chunks of light wedges
It over charges it?
Probs
I even saw some long gray rocks that when i approached at a certain radius would turn red and start vibrating
That's at the pipes area before you climb
Hmmm
Anyone wonder why the kids before stormlock have blue crystals on them?
Did the crystal eat them up??
Or did they crystal keep them alive?
It ate them alive
I think thats what either grows out of us once we die or maybe it something that affects us once we're dead in the area, or maybe this was an effect during the kaboom or the outcome of it, or as teth said this is what we eventually leave behind
Well we technically lose our physical forms, so for all sky kids that.. 'die' their physical forms are affected in this sense, that's what I meant
We're just a soul or spirit losing our light and regaining light, and gain physical form thru atmosphere of sky and lose it by 'death'
We're somewhat and everlasting entity
?
This is specualtion
The screams of lost children
@static spoke
Sky is a freaking game of freindship.

Or is it?

does anyone have a theory for sanctuary ? i would rlly like to know abt the backstory of this season (≧▽≦)
Um
Let me think
There was this one theory a while back that the spirits crashed there and had no supplies. They spirits were determined to enjoy themselves there before they died from lack of supplies.
And then they all died
The end
that's kinda sad tho :00
Well, things do get dark here. 
But i also heard from someone here who says sanctuary was made for us since we're all quarantined as a change of pace so not everything has to be taken as canon
Like a vacation
Yep
Oh!
A crab theory
Some crabs aren’t bad there because all of the bad particles that corrupt them were washed off. Remember: These are just theories by me
I honked the angry crabs until they were cleansed from the world

Quiet literally thanos snapped them
There was this one theory a while back that the spirits crashed there and had no supplies. They spirits were determined to enjoy themselves there before they died from lack of supplies.
@static spoke
sobbing
There there
It’s just a theory
Yeah...but that is problably at least partially accurate
Hey guys what's the topic
Well, things do get dark here.
@static spoke they do indeed oli, we even explained before that sky has a hectic social status that prob led to a civil war, or strict social status on people and hierarchy and that Isle was a possible place of exile
Hey lettuce
But i also heard from someone here who says sanctuary was made for us since we're all quarantined as a change of pace so not everything has to be taken as canon
@tender dune
I want it to be cannon. It pretty
Hi infinity
Bye Oliver, hey lettuce how've u been bud
Anyone wonder why the kids before stormlock have blue crystals on them?
That's from old beta.... In beta when skykid dies they becomes crystalized ... As far I remember. . and that one is just one of beta memories stuff
I got triggered several times in a week oof
Hahah on what case lettuce
they do indeed oli, we even explained before that sky has a hectic social status that prob led to a civil war, or strict social status on people and hierarchy and that Isle was a possible place of exile
@wispy canopy
Great speculation,
But thats where my fav hair is from-
triggered intensifies
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Hahah what part r u angry bout bud, I'm confusious
There was this one theory a while back that the spirits crashed there and had no supplies. They spirits were determined to enjoy themselves there before they died from lack of supplies.
isnt sanctuay island like, just beside prairie?
Thanks for pinging me. I do like to know when chat is up and running. 🙏
Hahah on what case lettuce
@wispy canopy
"You left them to die" (i went home after moth went into storm lock)
"They dies of no supllies" (swipe swipe swipe UP)
"Isle is where my favorite hair is" (ur theory)
"R/entilted parent vids" (youtube.)
Thanks for pinging me. I do like to know when chat is up and running. 🙏
@static spoke I side you on that
isnt sanctuay island like, just beside prairie?
@kind bobcat
Sanctuary my freind.
Prarie might be older then the date of when the sanc spirits crashed
REALITY CHECK:
All spirits you know and love are dead. Everyone except sky kids are dead.
So you're saying sanc was pre-prairie? 
Omg i triggered my self
@wispy canopy
"You left them to die"
"They dies of no supllies"
"Isle is where my favorite hair is"
"R/entilted parent vids"
@heady sequoia okay hold on a sec, can u explain in detail of each sentence of your own perspective so that I can have. A better understanding of the situation
No after prarie-
Well, that still means it's just a few steps away from prairie 
Ok, MAYBE IT IS PRE PRARIE
Sanctuary is just an area of prairie, by the looks of it it seem like a vacation area and prob has more lore behind the sanc
It wasnt pre-prairie
because where the heck would they get those boats and bells from
Exactly
Hmm, i really wanna know why the spirits never called for help tho
As infinity said, sanc might just be a big sauna where tired spirits go and chill
They mustve went to sanctuary after developing the tech or they decided to go there
Maybe it was after prarie?
Survivors of eden crystal crash and die a few years later-
The fact the sanc spirits died during vacation supports the mass extinction theory.
Hmm, i really wanna know why the spirits never called for help tho
@heady sequoia perhaps it was too late to call for help, like it happened before they could call for help
Yep
Most of them show what their jobs were
Might be, but their corpses are there
So, mass extinction???????????
Eden explodes and debris from storm fell everywhere that's what I think
Big shockwave of death and destruction
Yeah-
Ah earthquakes also possible..
But maybe the stuff didnt hit prarie and isle and forest and valley that bad tho
Skyquakes*
Earthquakes is very possible but sanc has no visual recoelrd of that but forest does
But maybe the stuff didnt hit prarie and isle and forest and valley that bad tho
@heady sequoia quite possible
But prairie is infected by darkness a bit
Valley is untouched only because darkness can't grow there
But maybe the stuff didnt hit prarie and isle and forest and valley that bad tho
It's possible that isle, prairie, Forrest was far away
Yeah! And forest to! And the bottom part of valley!
Wasteland faced it greatly
Yed
Yep
One time i fell down the floors of vault into blue nothing ness. Vault is just a memory guys >~<
Forest, wasteland and valley faced destruction on many accounts of buildings, structures and land difference
Vault is an overglorified elevator, change my mind
What made you think that? 
Pipes.
Pipes go upwards and everywhere.
Sometimes i explore them
Vault is an overglorified elevator, change my mind
@kind bobcat
Vault is an elevator but its glorified for the reason of containing all of sky's knowledfe
Graveyard was reservoir.. bricky's theory
Vault is a memory, change my mind
It is a reservoir his theory is correct 8 confirm with this pic
eden is jenova Chan's nightmare you can't change my mind
Vault is a memory, change my mind
@heady sequoia Allow me.
We can hear the sound of an object fitting into a hole when we reach the summit of vault, and knowing that the lanterns gradually light up as we ascend suggest that the entire interior of vault is covered with a projection to simulate an endless void in an enclosed space. my vr vault theory
I noticed the lanterns from vault's 3rd level becomes transparent
They do but the top of vault is the entrance to Eden and its an inside area
So the lanterns may make it seem that ist spacial but its all indoors
Which can be explained by the noise we hear when we reach the summit
Prob
I saw the end of vault in eden, wait wut?
Does that mean-
Oh god
It's all indoors, the lanterns make it seem spacial
Sanctuary feels more like Manta nursery. There might be some lore but only the restoration of the bells will tell. The bells looks like summoning item.
According to some of us, the Vault shrine is could be just a projection of the eden shrine/throne room
the real vault is gone, desperate the spirits try to recreate it- hence our vault-
That would make a lot of sense
Real vault's still intact, we can see it's roof 
Could be that Vault is actually an extension to Eden
Good. Wait then what about projection vault- yeah that makes sense
The void vault is made by lantern projections
There’s a giant manta flying high above Prairie temple that wasn’t there before this week’s bell
WHAT ABOUT PROJECTION VAULT
You're still
In vault
You'll still hit walls
It just looks endless with the projections from lanterns
Exactly
Speculation that the ascended manta thing in vault with many flap things will appear but as a normal manta with many flap things.
Possible
Vault murals suggest the lanterns also held a spell to summon the spirit mantas or "Projected" them to existence.
Hm so when you faint from the upper vault levels and “fall” back down are you actually rewinding
Do u have a pic of these murals
Hold on, it's deep in my picture folders
MAYBE THE LEVELS OF VAULT IS JUST VAULT EVOLVING
1st level, vault original
2: uwu another vault
Here
Brick's picture btw 
There's a clearer image but it's now forbidden knowledge since it was acquired through data mining 
So highly evolved manta can be trained to carry lanterns and summoned by it.
Eh, personally i think they made those mantas from scratch.
The runes look like DNA sequences
If elevator = history of vault, doesn’t the spirit acquisition sequence mean a time loop? (Need lv 2 to open lv 1)
In my VR Vault™ Theory the vault was a place for scholars to meditate and brainstorm without disruption from other realms
Brainstorm and do mad platforming
Also experiment on manta.
Give your eyes some rest
Tho also what happened in crab maze archives? walls were busted by the time this past wknd’s TS imprinted
thank you.
Thought that was the datamined one 
@celest spoke Vault was worn down by time, even the entrance to vault wasnt supposed to be there
Omg such beatiful lore chunks
Mercilessly beaten out of sky
Thought that was the datamined one
@kind bobcat it's just edited lol
It's the same pic which you've sent
Is it possible to get a clearer image on the sigils?
Maybe some warp into the cutscene, take an image of every sigil sequence, then color invert
Me: I love mercilessly beating lore chunks out of sky.
What does sky say?
Sky: THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT FLYING NO-
Me: smack smack
Me: ooo lala, eden king is still alive, si?
that child who gives you light when you die?
How filled of grief and regret, no?
Sky: that was going to represent y-
Me: smack
Well that pic is not elder futhark nor younger futhark,
Not viking la guage basically
everyone smacks sky harder
I just broke my keybord SMACK
Dammmnnnn, calm down flago, u must be determined
When i thought of the civil war theory, i of pointing spirit saying
Vivá lá revolusion
Hahaha nice, but that theory is very possible
I believe it
I maybe too late already to join in on the lore discussion. And someone might already have thought of it as well. But, do you think krills are giant security bots that is just left on after the war to patrol gw and eden?
:p I just wanted to share this thought with someone, but I didn't know where to share it.
also hello. I apologize on just jumping in this all of a sudden. Imma take my leave now.
We have been told that krill are natural creatures, but the possibility that they are trained security/attack dogs is certainly not out
smacks sky for lore chunks harder
Also pls don't go all theorizers are welcome here
Not even I have been kicked out yet
What's the main topics?
Taking details in sky and extrapolate to the extreme, mostly. There are some solid theories, some joke ones. Some jokes that just hang around like calling Brick the king or Megabird Megan
Sometimes we forgot how gorgeous the game is...
Well because we sniffing for lore 24/7
Brick set up an intro if you want
What happened to brick?
He went to sleep
Oh alright
Brick is not online at every hour
Hello new Lore Moff!
Read this short document to get started! Once you’ve read this, check out pins for more information.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit
New person intro yeah
Is it recently or long time ago?
Pretty recent
Hmm.. I must have not notice it.
Is there only one canonical sky child?
I'd look up the date but mobile search constraints
Wl are "imprints of the child of light" so we think so
Also according to one if the devs there is poop in the game. It's not in the office though. Have fun with that one ^.^
...
We have been told that krill are natural creatures, but the possibility that they are trained security/attack dogs is certainly not out
@short owl
it is possible though, maybe that's why they scout the area they're on so thoroughly as well. Trained to patrol a certain post, and attack any intruders.
reikaspoop
Did anyone ever find it?
And if we find it will the devs even tell us 'ye that's the one'😂
We DON'T KNOW

Honestly? That's THE BEST PART
well, I remember in early version, at home there're 3 stone invitation mailbox
now they're removed and moved to the crown constellation
These 3 mailbox look really like the stone lanterns in eden
so this shape of lantern may means passing on and deliver light / relationship

So... When we light the lanterns it's about making it easier for others to make their way?
That's true enough.
yeah
Pass
gw?
when u go up the pipes to the battlefield
gw is golden wasteland
why did megabird make us go barefoot 
You could wear pants
when u go up the pipes u would step on something that feels crunchy
or on ur way to the ship u might step on some crunchy things
like its black but not dirt
ya
waste sand?
The sand Next to the pipes may be wet as the waste water coming from pipes
why did megabird make us batrfoot 
maybe after a long time this sand became cement

That slimey stuff make this weird rock formations
that's not normal sand that's soul sand👀
if megabird knows the golden wasteland why did she make us pay for shoes
this is injustice
why did megabird make us batrfoot
@sinful anvil the mother of skykids Are cruel
I wonder why we don't get sandals all the time
poop
If skykids could smell they'll definitely avoid wasteland
Wasteland is smelly 
Jus imagine what graveyard smells like 😀
I just realised
The crown constellation in home represents Eden xD
Does that mean that the friends we make represent the eden spirits o.o
I think maybe they represent the children of light. Because when u enter the friends constellation the title at top is "The Light"
still interesting tho
Is there only one canonical sky child?
@hushed steeple It’s unclear. It’s up to your interpretation
It is
I wanna talk more about if the elders/col in the intro vid is similar to the northern crown
But i dunno much about stars
Me neither
Im trying to read more about it rn
Ok
K i was reading about the northern crown then found another interesting constellation called Pleiades (aka. The Seven Sisters)
There are def more stars in pleiades (if u have some magical zooming telescope) but the main shiny ones are few ( from 6-7-8, depends how good ur eyesight is)
Ooo
🤔
u rly switched to forest mom
im scared of her ima hidee
“with stars united our light is infinite” from the first picture, if i assume the person in the center is a prince and the stars connected to him represents the realms, i guess the prince ,,, may b the leader of the elders or smth? then “darkness came and the stars fell” might mean he is corrupted leading the stars falling which just happens to b the next animation
idk just goofing here
well if prince and king are the same
I don’t think they are
Just testing the pfp tbh, still used to keeping it as giyuu tho
Ok
in the game it seems as if they’re the same person
especially if we are to believe we are their reincarnation
we look like the prince, even if we harbour the king’s soul
which makes me think they’re the same
as well as seeing the CoL in the intro become the ruler in eden


What if when it says “with starts united our light was infinite” could mean there was a world of connected people and light creatures and everything shiny and then the ancestors are the indifferent made of black stone so from the start they weren’t able to fly but then something happened and the connected fell from the sky and some of the ancestors learned how to merge with the connected so they have capes and people realizing that its possible to merge the connected and indifferent started making diamond factories trying to recreate what the merged connected and indifferent are
Idk if any of this makes sense but just an idea
Also why when u first start the game ur capless but then u get a wing ur merging ur indifferent self with the connected
Then when u go to eden u give the connected u stored to the statues in eden
but we still have light in the beginning, we’re not indifferent
Oh
indifferent = no light/darkness
And we are either light or dark at all times
when we start we have a « pity star » of sorts, thats the little teardrop shape on the top of our wedges
wait
teardrop.......
Ye
be right back
W8
When we merge in dark room
There is also a liquid sound
Just wanna drop that before u yeet
Hmm
I can't remember if it was in the dark room but it was somewhere either during ascending or during rebirthing
am i going crazy or do i have something 
you are not immune to megabirb propaganda

on it
my lore:
At the start the Elders are like stars, connected with the Prince (based on the first pic before “stars falling” animation). That was when “light was infinite”. Then the Prince discovered darkness can be harnessed to create technology, so he led the advancement and was crowned king. In the process, the stars fell. The Elders, ignoring Megabird, created their own realms in the clouds and played a role in the technological progress (eg. the diamond operation). As we know if civilization continues to consume in an unsustainable way, it would collapse, so that was like what happened with the king becoming corrupt in the process, then all goes down.
A long time passes after the collapse. The prince reincarnates into Skykids (our avatar) or something. The rest is history.
ps. pls dont quote the entire thing
Also RUUUD. Megabirb is
(Mostly messin, hence misspelling)
Also... We have no idea what we look like before we are tasked
if you wanna see the masterpost, i’m putting a link in #promote-your-sky-content
So maybe we are just a lil not indifferent because we were asked to help
||office ingame has some info about the realms||
Spoils not needed here
yes it does, and no need to spoiler
Current beta secrets still forbidden
No. Live version has it.
Second message was clarification on rules for spoils
I dont have tumblr but i shall enjoy that
in office there’s a poster detailing that the realms are made after times of day and points in your life, these two aspects are canon
also i noticed the other day that the poster has the king on it
and the prince
yes, that one
if you wanna see the masterpost, i’m putting a link in #promote-your-sky-content
the masterpost for lore? ok
prenc/kang in office
Check the poster if you happened to able to enter using
cape
birb
no, meme masterpost
ohh






. . and that one is just one of beta memories stuff

