Just a theory
#lore-discussion-spoilers
static spoke
mild lark
A game theo-
wide root
A theory can’t be applied if there’s no proof!
static spoke
And Megan is just s theory
wide root
Who’s that
hollow sinew
A GAME THEORY
willow shoal
but who created the dark?
lilac sand
what exactly in us represents the dark part
wide root
In the game?
hollow sinew
the one at the eden of dying on eden??
There's dark and light thing
And when we hug we got revived
wide root
What?!
static spoke
We don’t need spoilers here!
lilac sand
anything really
mild lark
You guys should check the pin for the confirmed canon on this game.. hope that helps
wide root
Yes there’s not much else other than megabirbs and the origins of the children and of the king
mild lark
||you still click it||
wide root
Yes i still clicked them
There’s nothin that explains more subtles things such as why there’s pipes in eden and in the wastelands, why there’s floating orbs, why the coliseum is a little bit broken, why the island’s elder face is broken when we see him first....
sinful anvil
(i dont expect an answer just wondering how skykids can do acrobatics… mb its inherited from the prince who may be agile as heck, or the world has v low gravity? or their cosmetics made of light made skykids v light?)
wide root
They see and imit what they see, like... childs
sinful anvil
no i mean they can throw instruments in the air and catches it. they jump to sit
that sort of things
mild lark
@sinful anvil their face mask is made of stone.. so low gravity is not it
willow shoal
the megabird and king may be just legends of sky
static spoke
Maybe it’s us. As we are made of light stuff.
wide root
Genetics, i’ll say
wide root
True
static spoke
Which, makes us light
willow shoal
yeah i agreeeee
sinful anvil
Alef what the heck are you 
mild lark
We virtually can't die too so biology can't help us
static spoke
True
wide root
But how stone can move without breaking
willow shoal
Which, makes us light
@static spoke shepherd?
mild lark
Stronk stone
static spoke
Me, nah @willow shoal
sinful anvil
the stone is small and irl ppl can carry rocks
wide root
Crabs, u mean?
static spoke
Such as pumice
wide root
What do u mean? Do u mean stone are glowsticks or just not dense
sinful anvil
i mean the stone as a mask is p small and doesnt seem thick, so it might be light enough to float in low gravity
wide root
Density affects the weight of an object
static spoke
This is a fictional world, so real life concepts may not apply
wide root
Physics are still physics
lilac sand
does orbit/ skykids have anything to do with orbital hybridization (chemistry) or am i just overthinking? not anything but. it could be applied here somewhere idk.. the stars and the other dark kids maybe didnt have the ability to reunite spirits like we do? so thats why we exist
static spoke
But what if the properties don’t exist in he world of Sky? @wide root
wide root
Then we won’t see what we see, we won’t fall on the ground, water would not be water candles won’t burn properly, well the world itself wouldn’t exist istelf because there’s no laws of physics!
No molecules!
sinful anvil
gravity may not work as the same but … they’re like kids. who can do acrobatics. ik they’re not like human kids but damn
wide root
I know 10 years old that can do backflips, so i don’t see how gravity is different
Trampoline is a sport and they do acrobatics at a young age there
Even on the ground
willow shoal
10 years old??
static spoke
Physics with an s. There is more than one property. The world may be made of different properties. And not all of the same properties as on Earth.
sinful anvil
well mb young ppl can fare well in gymnastics
wide root
Yes, on the ground. If they don’t do it properly... well... anyway there’s kids that can do gymnastics in real life so i don’t see how sky’s gravity is different
static spoke
Sky kids can do it again and again. Humans cannot.
sinful anvil
unrelated
megabird: i created you to atone for a kingdom you didnt know you destroyed
megabird: and you get a flyaway hair that bounces when you run
wide root
I know what you mean pale child. Skids can do it again and again. Humans cannot.
@static spoke so you’re saying skykids aren’t biologic beings because they can’t feel tired
static spoke
Yes
sinful anvil
ofc they’re not
wide root
So they’re not real childrens
static spoke
You seem to expect the world of Sky follows Earth’s ideas. Obviously, somethings are not the same.
hollow sinew
Most of things are not the same tbh 
nimble siren
ive always been under the impression that a skykid is a stone doll with a soul of light
static spoke
See you all later!
sinful anvil
the ability to do acrobatics without prior teaching is a mystery. i personally hc this comes from the prince. he’s got to b fit or dabbled in some dark magic that makes him agile
willow shoal
sky gravity is the same as on earth,but in holy land skykids may be attracted by the strong light power coming from the megabird
wide root
the ability to do acrobatics without prior teaching is a mystery. i personally hc this comes from the prince. he’s got to b fit or dabbled in some dark magic that makes him agile
@sinful anvil they teach themselves by observation!
And what is the holy lands?!?
sinful anvil
no they didnt. they didnt just move to the chair and sit. they just jumped and then sit. and thats not from an emote or anything. also have u seen the way they take out their instruments?? dramatic!!
willow shoal
And what is the holy lands?!?
@wide root when you give out all wings in eden, you will enter the holy land
wide root
It’s called the orbit, my dear
no they didnt. they didnt just move to the chair and sit. they just jumped and then sit. and thats not from an emote or anything. also have u seen the way they take out their instruments?? dramatic!!
@sinful anvil i’m talking about how they do the acrobatics! Placing tables is probably more of logic, because they figure how to place it, sitting on it.... everybody knows how to sit on something, and for the instruments, maybe that’s the same jedi powers from when you’re floating or making objects float
hollow sinew
Holy land 😂
sinful anvil
hmm plausible
nimble siren
speaking of ways skykids can manipulate gravity, i feel like nobody really talks about the telekinesis emote
i still dont know what exactly telekinesis emote does
wide root
Now someone who knows how to use the lore!
It makes objects float. I belive it’s associated with the levitation emote
dusky sorrel
It’s really only used for that one door in vault though. Otherwise we don’t get to float stuff
wide root
I think skykids have power diamonds, wich are objects that manipulates gravity too
nimble siren
well yes, but to what extent? is it just small things like lanterns and stuff? can skykids lift each other with telekinesis?
nimble siren
telekinesis emote is how tall skykids keep chibis in the air while holding hands with no effort
wide root
Maybe it’s not a question of an emote, but rather the effect that causes the emote: the jedi power thing
willow shoal
is this megabird?
wide root
It causes the levitation emote and the telekinesis emote
nimble siren
i wonder if skykids can use telekinesis in like a joint effort to lift really big things
wide root
No this is a lot of things going into the brighest thing, wich is also made of animals and skychilds
nimble siren
thats part of the megabird, as seen when you watch until the end of the cutscene
wide root
i wonder if skykids can use telekinesis in like a joint effort to lift really big things
@nimble siren one day maybe it’s possible.... repairing the catapult in the graveyard?
nimble siren
a small star that makes up the huge megabird
wide root
Megabirb is just a constellation made of glowing stuff
wide root
Mantas and skychilds....
nimble siren
actually, how does the sun work anyways
nimble siren
we're in one of 4 planets according to the orrery? i think?
wide root
Wut
wide root
Photo?
lilac sand
i wanna do planet traveling...
wide root
Aliens
nimble siren
i assume that this refers to sun and planets because we only ever see one moon
wide root
In the ark of the season of enchantments?
nimble siren
yes
sweet dirge
There's a crescent shaped object showing light when u look up in Eden
I assume it's the moon
orchid crypt
there's apparently also a visible moon in shipwreck if you go high enough
nimble siren
actually.... i just remembered the big shiny ball that you see behind the portal in orbit when you go on the shiny stairs
welp there goes my headcanon
sweet dirge
@orchid crypt this thing?
orchid crypt
yeah, that
almost looks sun-like in that lighting, but it wouldn't make a lot of sense if forgotten ark is in the same timezone
although if the bright part is the sun, it'd at least still prove the existence of a moon since that'd be a partial eclipse we're seeing
orchid crypt
forgotten ark's one is a lot less ambiguous
sweet dirge
How did u get there? @orchid crypt
orchid crypt
this isn't my image, it's a sample from the wiki
sweet dirge
:O!!!
nimble siren
what exactly is this thing?
orchid crypt
that probably doesn't make a whole lot of sense in terms of real world astral bodies
wide root
It does
orchid crypt
a direct line of sight to a sun should mean the area's much more illuminated than it is
wide root
And blue suns do exist in the real universe
nimble siren
then a moon? or just an aesthetic ball of light?
wide root
And maybe cameras has sunglasses
orchid crypt
i know blue suns are a thing, but if that thing actually is a sun, we probably shouldn't be able to see anything at all given its relative size and distance to where orbit is
wide root
Sunglasses
orchid crypt
it's more likely something else, unless we assume that suns are depicted differently in the sky universe
wide root
Filters
orchid crypt
the filter thing doesn't really make sense to me given that daylight prairie was illuminated much better without a sun of this size
the whole area of orbit doesn't actually make a lot of physical sense, relative to what we saw during the ascent actually
wide root
Skychildrens aren’t normal beings, for sure. They may not have sunglasses, but they might see with something different than eyes. Maybe it’s purely a game concept to not be blinded by the sun. Maybe we are on another planet, with a different atmsophere wich partially blocks the light
orchid crypt
but i don't think it was ever really meant to given that ascent itself looked pretty metaphysical
wide root
Wich part of the ascension?
orchid crypt
pretty much the entirety of it: none of the weather and physical terrain really lines up with what we saw in stormlock
from the very beginning of eden, the conditions looked far too extreme for any life to flourish, but we saw jellyfish and mantas on the way up through ascent, along with visual themes corresponding to a lot of different parts of the realms we passed by to get to eden -- it feels way too surreal for me to think it's real in a physical sense, rather than a spiritual ascent
wide root
For the first part (the difficult and painfull one) i think the big red power diamond causes enough energy to disrupt gravity and megnetic fields, and create massives winds by causing huge heat sources
Maybe it’s even.... a whormole
Causing everything to be absorbed to another place
round pulsar
@orchid crypt Maybe ascent doesn’t take place in Eden for the most part. The first part of ascent does fly you directly out of Eden, so maybe it takes you back down the mountain, back around the vault, and up into orbit
wide root
But that doesn’t explain how jellies and mantas would’ve survived
@orchid crypt Maybe ascent doesn’t take place in Eden for the most part. The first part of ascent does fly you directly out of Eden, so maybe it takes you back down the mountain, back around the vault, and up into orbit
So the vault is destroyed, but still intact
orchid crypt
we're mostly flying upwards during ascent, i think; the one small drop that happens is only through a flooring that starts going upwards again
i hadn't really considered the idea that it was physically somewhere outside of eden, but it definitely didn't feel like the peak/where the red diamond was for me
wide root
Gravity: attraction by something
hushed steeple
my theory is that eden is ground zero of the cataclysm that cast the falling stars down into the clouds
orchid crypt
the vault is destroyed, but still intact
for that part, i kind of think of ascent as like...the sky kid's soul starts ascending towards orbit in something similar to the rapture or end of the world, because we see a lot of things crumbling and falling as we're going up
hushed steeple
yea i just got here lol
wide root
Maybe the skykid enter the realm of the deads
orchid crypt
welcome welcome, it's always just jumping into the deep end with this channel 
nimble siren
orchid crypt
oh dear, the king propaganda starts 
wide root
Please direct this to #sky-memes or otherwise further "consequences" might occur
sinful gull
HAHAHAHAHA
orchid crypt
Maybe the skykid enter the realm of the deads
that's roughly what i was thinking when i said that the ascent felt more metaphysical to me, yeah
sinful gull
Wait I need to ask
Is there any layout/timeline of what happened to the Sky Kingdom, the Elders, and The King? Is there anywhere I can find the basic structure of the story outside of the intro?
orchid crypt
we've got quite a lot of concept art in the pins in this channel, if you're interested
wide root
The king does not exist!!!!!! It’s a conspiracy against lobsters!
nimble siren
king is a mech suit for prince < king is a mech suit for lobster
orchid crypt
ah, then i don't think we have anything more specific; a lot of the lore hasn't been explicitly told to us
wide root
Indeed
sinful gull
AAAAAAA
wide root
Here there’s mainly debates about megabirb, the king and skychilds again.... and again............ and again...............
orchid crypt
don't forget the propaganda
wide root
Ô_ō
sinful gull
also what the planet we are situated on looks like, the religion of the kingdom, the culture...... the behaviors of the creatures
wide root
I think the planet skychilds are on isn’t flat
sinful gull
no way it is
orchid crypt
it doesn't look it when you go really high up in the air -- there's some curvature to the horizon
wide root
It’s a earth-shaped planet probably
nimble siren
skykid planet is definitely round imo, at least from ascent. maybe its a void on the other side nobody knows
wide root
Flat on the extreme south and north, probably because of the centrifusigsm effect as the planet rotates
kind bobcat
Whomst has dared to defy the king
wide root
But it’s theory
How would the planet work?
How, with its many layers of clouds, still work without collapsing
sinful gull
sky is so complex i hate that its so complex but i love that its so complex
orchid crypt
yeah, no planetary physics that i'm aware of seems like it'd support what kinda stuff we've seen in sky
sinful gull
theres so much information to take in my brain hurts
orchid crypt
friendly reminder that the "underground" part of hidden forest is still in the sky
wide root
It seems like the island and wasteland is a single continent
Because they have sand abd sea
sinful gull
Wasteland looks below the clouds
wide root
So they’re at the bottom
sinful gull
like Sanctuary level
wide root
Yes
orchid crypt
wasteland has a cloud layer above the level for the most part -- the only thing which throws this for a bit of a loop is the forgotten ark area, since there're clouds at "sea level" in that section too
wide root
The ark is still in the wastelands
sinful gull
wasteland has a cloud layer above the level for the most part -- the only thing which throws this for a bit of a loop is the forgotten ark area, since there're clouds at "sea level" in that section too
@orchid crypt there’s not really a sea in ark though, there’s a sea of clouds but for the most part it all looks above sea level
There’s a bit of water but I don’t know if it counts
orchid crypt
yeah, that's why i put "sea level" in quotation marks: it's what we'd normally see as sea level in the sense that it's surrounding the island, but with sky's terrain... 
wide root
At first view the ark looks just like the wastelands when we all entered it at the first time
wide root
Is the island and wasteland the same terrain?
sinful gull
I completely skipped over the quotes i’m sorry skdksnd
orchid crypt
that, i'm not sure of: you mentioned that the boat we ride on to get to the forgotten ark rises out of the water a bit, but i could never really tell if it really flies up in the air or just hovers above the water a bit at that constant height to get to the ark
sinful gull
it cuts off so
orchid crypt
the cutscene doesn't play out for long enough for me to really feel clear about which one's the right interpretation
sinful gull
And there’s no visible entrance way to the ark in the clouds
Yeah
There’s something off in the distance that looks like a structure but it looks nothing like Ark at all so I doubt that’s it
shy ore
Other boats in like Prarie fly so maybe the boat flies
wide root
Maybe it’s indeed in a in-beetween-two-layer
Or a pocket layer itself in a layer, just like a bubble on a pond
orchid crypt
there's also the question of cloud behaviour in sky, i guess: so far, we've been assuming that the presence of clouds indicates a high altitude, since that's what we're used to in real life
but there's probably nothing saying that clouds can't also form close to the ground in sky's world
wide root
Clouds aren’t normal, point
But it seems they might have a solid core, otterwise matter won’t stick to it
sinful gull
Also when it comes to the realms- you move upwards into prairie from isle, then descend into forest from prairie, then move up to valley from forest, then descend to wasteland from valley, then walk into the vault, which moves you to eden, which moves you upwards and inevitably out the top
orchid crypt
when you put it that way, the world of sky is basically a giant rollercoaster for our sky kids
wide root
... yes?
sinful gull
I was going to say my point but then I realized how stupid it sounds so
wide root
Say it. It won’t hurt
orchid crypt
But it seems they might have a solid core, otterwise matter won’t stick to it
that's the most logical thing to assume with the kind of physics we're used to when we're looking at large buildings and large areas of land like forest and valley, yeah
i wonder how much of it might be floating landmass though, similar to what you might see in laputa
the whole idea about "land mixed with clouds at the lowest point of the level" really does one's head in trying to piece it together
wide root
They’re some sort of ice sublimating, and is even less dense than the air
Otherwise how it does float
sinful gull
The majority of it is in the clouds but certainly there are areas that are higher up and lower than others with some going to sea level
wide root
Sublimation causes the clouds, and they’re attracted by the coldnest of the ice to stay in place i think
i wonder how much of it might be floating landmass though, similar to what you might see in laputa
@orchid crypt more than normally ig
sinful gull
I don’t really know if we should even think too hard on Sky’s physics- the area it’s situated in is meant to be magical and physic defying so I don’t know if it’s something the devs were intending us to look at
sinful gull
?
orchid crypt
entirely random and sudden thought, but i wonder if sky's terrain would be possible in real life if a small planet/moon formed an earth-like environment, and then crashed into a gas giant like jupiter and had all its land mass broken off and floating in the gas giant
.....probably not, since that'd completely destroy the inhabitable environment
sinful gull
I don’t think it would leave anything left, but I did like where you were headed with that
orchid crypt
but that's the closest idea i've got to a naturally formed environment where you've got land mass suspended in mostly cloud/gas
yeah, it'd probably get completely blown to bits if it wasn't something artificially invoked
sinful gull
Unless there was an intention and action to preserve certain bits and pieces while the rest got destroyed I don’t exactly know if it would be possible
modest sequoia
Oh, you guys missed the whole superconductor debate
short owl
What debate
sinful gull
my brain cannot comprehend some of the things that are talked about in here
I saw it but i read like a bit of it before i got confused akfkakfk
orchid crypt
it's okay, the devs thrive on our confusion 
modest sequoia
If in Sky's world, there exists a room-temprature superconductor, the floating terrain makes sence 
And alot of other weird stuffs
runic shell
Why is this simultaneously the most active and the most chill channel on here
modest sequoia
That light/wax in this world has supercondtive properties, and that causes the levitation factors, and also why the people of Sky are so obsessed with it
You only see floating terrain in high light/creature concentration areas
short owl
Cause the lore is dark enough that it gets out of our system without us hating eachother and it's easy enough to flip topics and enjoy crack theoried
orchid crypt
looking at how that magnetic cube twitches randomly and then tumbles endlessly, i can only conclude our sky kids are little magnet bois on a superconducting landmass
that's exactly what my character does after getting thrown down into the lower part of wasteland
short owl
Could megan be the supercomputer?
short owl
Just kinda... More linked in than normal?
sinful gull
My brain is going to explode
short owl
... Now I wish I know the font so I could turn We Are Propoganda into We Are Supercomputer
modest sequoia
You're lore'ing hard, bruh 
sinful gull
I never even considered Sky’s physics, I always assumed the Devs wanted us to focus more on the actual lore of the Sky Kingdom and whatnot, but now that I’ve joined the lore channel it’s like... my third eye has been forced open with a can opener and now there’s so much other stuff to take into account
tender dune
Im back, with some pics
I was gonna lore yesterday but was down, even slept while doing vault farming
Isn't this a reference to the old forest elder concept? (Bunny)
sinful gull
Like I’m literally just a high school student with an intense hyperfixation on Sky I have absolutely no idea what a superconductor is and why it has to be room temperature
lethal stump
yes it’s a reference to old concept, Teth
gray bridge
yes
modest sequoia
@sinful gull Superconduction is purely a physics trick to impress your Science teacher with, and annoy your friends with facts about
https://youtu.be/X5EoUD-BIss
sinful gull
@sinful gull Superconduction is purely a physics trick to impress your Science teacher with, and annoy your friends with facts about
https://youtu.be/X5EoUD-BIss
@modest sequoia it sounds super interesting though!!
lethal stump
im gone for like an hour and this becomes high school physics class ?
modest sequoia
How about how the shape of the candle's flame proves that Sky has a gravitational field similar to earth's?
sinful gull
is this what junior year is going to be like
modest sequoia
tender dune
Can you explain what king propaganda means to my dummy self
lethal stump
it’s basically anything that looks like the king, since he’s everywhere in a very... « i’m the king and i’m in charge and watching you » sort of way
tender dune
Ooo
kind bobcat
Even isle has king propaganda
tender dune
Thanks
kind bobcat
In the window weave patterns
Anything that is shaped like a diamond can be traced back to the king
lethal stump
and
uh
the carving of the king
sinful gull
and
uh
the carving of the king
@lethal stump WHERE 👀👀👀👀
sinful gull
i never visit isle i need to go back now
lethal stump
it lights up when you open the door
sinful gull
it’s been YEARS since i’ve been to Isle..... thank you I will pay him a visit
kind bobcat
sinful anvil
Also, poop?😂
ARE YOU SAYING THE HARD WOOD I STEPPED ON AND THOUGHT “CRUNCHY”?? ARENT WOOD
tender dune
haahahha
sinful anvil
my skykid went dummy
tender dune
Im still trying to find the 'poop' reika mentioned
sinful anvil
i thought thats beside the shipwreck through the pipe locked behind constellation
tender dune
It is
sinful anvil
krill [bleep]
idea:
what if we are made of darkstone? so imagine some darkstone made kids rejecting their mission for light and … successfully overrides
like an ai gone rogue
[im sorry megan]
on an extreme end, what if some darkstone kids feel their reincarnation calling and start to seek to destroy what we are trying to accomplish?
sinful anvil
literal Alef battling Corrupted King
tender dune
Incoming pics of isle of dawn
hushed steeple
Thanks nagati
tender dune
I guess this is the beginning of how (humanity?) discovered light (megabirbs poop/ember) and started using it as power
hushed steeple
You forgot one mural
hushed steeple
Wait lemme send it
tender dune
Is it at the 2 player door?
hushed steeple
tender dune
😔 😔 😔 😔
tender dune
I shall continue exploring @ me if needed
Strangely enough those 3 light orbs dont really recharge ur light..
hushed steeple
Well teth I think those fallen stars shown in the pic are those one in intro
tender dune
👌
wispy canopy
hushed steeple
Not the elders teth
wispy canopy
Teth?
hushed steeple
@/teth
tender dune
Le moi
wispy canopy
Oh him
wispy canopy
The pic I sent is the place to obtain our instrument and staffs and stuff
thorn spade
I guess this is the beginning of how (humanity?) discovered light (megabirbs poop/ember) and started using it as power
@tender dune POOP POWER DKAJFAJDHSHD
tender dune
Just realised the whole temple/ground looks like a boat
wispy canopy
The people 0robably used the fallen stars /light to make to make materials and tech
thorn spade
poop powered tech
wispy canopy
What do u mean by poop
Like megabird poop
I think it's possible that the megabird could be just an idea of what their God would look like?
It's a tgeory
hushed steeple
Ok so in intro there shows 3 trails after the temple scene
And in isle there're 3 star falling
wispy canopy
Megabird must've blessed them with stars, when they prayed for it
hushed steeple
In mural
willow shoal
well, beginning cutscene says the fallen stars made a new home in the clouds.
hushed steeple
Ye
tender dune
I believe its the megabirds embers/leftovers (from the concept pic) and the ppl just used it as powersource
wispy canopy
Must mean Eden?
willow shoal
So they are the civilizations of the kingdom?
wispy canopy
Who are they?
willow shoal
the fallen stars
wispy canopy
There were people before star people (us)
They prayed for something, and megabird gave stars
willow shoal
yeah i know that...
wispy canopy
They harness its power to create
So the people must be natural and plates unnatural
*players unnatural
willow shoal
timeline mentioned the megabird in dismay blessed the kingdom and created the children of light(skykids)
willow shoal
Yes
hushed steeple
#lore-discussion-spoilers message
Like in these images there are 3 stars falling
willow shoal
but except isle?
hushed steeple
Assuming those are the same
willow shoal
isle may be not part of the sky
willow shoal
yeah,but in world map, its not at the top of clouds
hushed steeple
From land world to sky world
willow shoal
From land world to sky world
@hushed steeple a connection?
hushed steeple
Seems so
willow shoal
in the isle beach, there are some boats covered inside, what they were used to do?
hushed steeple
Transportation
willow shoal
tender dune
Yee
willow shoal
the ancients sent lights to the sky?
tender dune
Nope
They used those lights as power source for their boats
That's how they operated the boat
willow shoal
ohm,hmmm so they used light power to drive the boats
hushed steeple
They used those lights as power source for their boats
They used powered diamonds ... As far I remember
tender dune
Pretty sure those fallen stars came from this ember concept. Then the king got greedy and decided to take the center of embers(eden) and so kaboom
willow shoal
isle was built before the forest, so i dont think they used the dark stone
maybe the creatures?
hushed steeple
Those built at same time?
There are powered diamond elevator,2 players door in isle as well
tender dune
I guess they used those orbs i sent at the beginning (the first primitive power source). Then they evolved into creating power diamonds
hushed steeple
The door in temple uses powered diamond
tender dune
U think maybe it was sent after creating the diamonds?
tender dune
Cuz isle has the least amount of power diamonds
willow shoal
Of course
hushed steeple
If we assume those temple built at same time it's not so vague
And there are people in sky world from beginning (before elders came)
tender dune
So im guessing after creating the diamonds in the other worlds they imported a few to power up the isle
willow shoal
i need to see the concept art right now😂😂
gray bridge
tomcepts are in the pins
wispy canopy
Before we fall we are the connected after that were mixed 8 guess
sage isle
?-?
hushed steeple
We're made of darkness and light both....
That's what I think
wispy canopy
We are the imprints of the children of the light, or just the children of the light
Our physical forms are dark vessel occupied by light, I guess
mild lark
We are descendants of child of light and indifferent (which is dark version of child of light)
gray bridge
not confirmed, some of the sounds skids make when they move on certain surfaces were made with clay though
mild lark
@sage isle the mask was made out of stone.. so yeah
gray bridge
tis a headcanon of a dev i think
sage isle
Interesting.
wispy canopy
I think we're light that when burned up on entry to sky we become a solid element
sage isle
I just wanted to know because I'm trying to make my sky kid into a star wars oc, y'all are really helpful
hushed steeple
We're wax
tender dune
Here ye go for the unknownthtime😂
wispy canopy
Come to think of it have we ever seen an indifferent
mild lark
Wait child of light has hair?
wispy canopy
Yea we all do
mild lark
Never noticed that
wispy canopy
R u talking about the connected or descendant
sage isle
Come to think of it have we ever seen an indifferent
@wispy canopy maybe it was us just before eden went big boom
mild lark
Connected@wispy canopy
sage isle
But, I could be v e r y wrong
hushed steeple
Sneky no need to spoiler tag anything in this channel
sage isle
Ah, sorry. ^^"
hushed steeple
No it's fine
tender dune
((my theory is the indifferent is the prince so we're like half prince half connected))
Since he's the only tiny one who has a similar body as us
hushed steeple
Possible
sage isle
Indeed
wispy canopy
Could the indifferent be the cause of the big bang at eden
tender dune
King was the cause of kaboom
sage isle
Hmmm
wispy canopy
Power cell systems
wispy canopy
Diamond?
sage isle
You know the thing the vault elder gives us?
wispy canopy
No
sage isle
Then floats into da air?-
mild lark
That damn huge red floating diamond shape on eden? Yeah that's a huge power diamond.
sage isle
HA
wispy canopy
Could it be possible that they tried to make a gd big diamond but it went corrupt?
sage isle
So, I'm thinking he corrupted or mishandled a diamond and it went COD zombie nuke noise here
sly kestrel
That pic isn’t the huge eden diamond, that’s the whole castle 
mild lark
@sage isle yeah just like nuclear powerplant.. if you mishandled it a bit.. it backfired
sage isle
Then, Where's the diampnd?-
wispy canopy
But I wonder why the Isle elder was disbanded
wispy canopy
The diamond is basically the eye of eden
sly kestrel
The diamond is around there but that pic doesn’t show it
sage isle
I was gonna say it's in those swirl clouds above it
sly kestrel
They didn’t add the tiny detail to be in other realms, it’s jus supposed to be something u see in only eden
mild lark
No it was that huge thing on eden that shoot beam
sly kestrel
But like I said earlier, the diamond is there, but that diamond shaped thing is the second broken half of the castle
wispy canopy
Yea isn that the eye of efen
sly kestrel
.....reread my message
mild lark
Damn eye of Eden is tall
sage isle
Holllly ship wreck
mild lark
Megabird be chilling up there
sage isle
Mega bird said to every sky kid:
wispy canopy
8 don't think that's mege bird
sly kestrel
Wait can someone screenshot what smiley face sent
wispy canopy
That could be the star we all enter to get the wing buffs and reborn
sly kestrel
I can’t see it
sage isle
@sly kestrel
sly kestrel
8 don't think that's mege bird
@wispy canopy back then, that huge thing was the megabird
I don’t think it’s the same thing today tho
wispy canopy
Agreed
The last citscene in the game shows megabird
This is way too small to be megabird
kind bobcat
Well, megabird is an abstract entity or something similar to it
Seeing that she consists from clusters of stars in the credit cutscene
Maybe the megabird in that specific concept art shows only part of her
mild lark
Is king considered as elders?
tender dune
I come with the realization that this cosmic creature is a mama with 2 bebeys
They're v small
I wonder what happened there
hushed steeple
There are 4 baby mantas?
I forgot
tender dune
I dunno there's probs more but i saw 2 flying infront of her
I wonder if they all died together or if mama bred in the afterlife
I wonder what this means
glacial crown
Damn eye of Eden is tall
@mild lark hey uhh, is there a more high quality version of this image?
And also, i would like to ask what megabird is?
gray bridge
i can't go image hunting atm sorry 
megabird basically is a god, in charge of the light and rebirth
general consensus it that she's in orbit and in the credits
in tomcepts (concept art by tom zhao) megabird is referred to as a 'she' so i'll just go with that
safe osprey
i drew a wonderful image of megabird but im not sure if i still have it
gray bridge
to be fair that's not even how megabird is supposed to look like chibi
safe osprey
res i will literally fight you my megabird is amazing and you know it
tender dune
Are the inscriptions of sanctuary the same as the ones that call the mantas in prairie?? (Can't in-game screenshot in sanctuary)
gray bridge
yes i think so
you may want to ask brick and mochi about it to confirm since i don't dabble in the transcriptions
@lone hull wdym?
sorry i don't understand your message-
aurora is the megabird?
kind bobcat
safe osprey
new theory: the singer AURORA is megabird
torpid kelp
hahahaha y e s
safe osprey
that's why we hear her vocals
gray bridge
i mean it makes sense, it's been discussed before actually
wait is that a legit photo of irl iceland
tender dune
that's ho-oh
gray bridge
oh i was referring to AURORA the singer of the end credits but
sorry i misunderstood
mild lark
What is this thing? The king? Look huge tho
Found this when I digging for content at the pins.
torpid kelp
quick question, is there any theories on how the area with the first krill has the same architecture features as the forest temple?
gray bridge
What is this thing? The king? Look huge tho
Found this when I digging for content at the pins.
i'll look later if no one has an answer yet
quick question, is there any theories on how the area with the first krill has the same architecture features as the forest temple?
there's a theory that the forest temple is a power diamond factory, first krill area might also have been one since you see the see golden spinny thing you see in forest temple but it's broken
torpid kelp
oh! yo snap
tender dune
Yeee
delicate coral
Any ideas on what this thing is in prairie’s villages section?
It’s on the island with the two spirits
On the dock facing the left island
I was thinking the symbol was interesting since we don’t see many perfect circles around the kingdom
Also the two diamonds at the top seem like they mean something maybe
sweet dirge
Its a device for recording time, u know
wispy canopy
Oh yea this link I sent is the intro for those who'd like ref
sweet dirge
When I brought it up here, they said its an easter egg
wispy canopy
Its a device for recording time, u know
@sweet dirge
How does it work
orchid crypt
i believe it was a clock for what's now the invisible boat
the one in hidden forest is supposed to indicate when the rainbow will appear
sweet dirge
Ooo
orchid crypt
if i understand it correctly, yeah -- though i haven't paid attention to how the clock face actually behaves in-game or in realtime (i.e. i don't know if it reflects the time in your actual real world location, or if it runs on something in-game to show exactly when something will happen)
orchid crypt
the one in prairie shouldn't move, yeah, since the boat's "sorta" cut
can still be accessed doing this, but the fact that it's stored out of bounds to begin with probably breaks the clock
https://sky-children-of-the-light.fandom.com/wiki/The_Out_of_Bounds_(OOB)#The_Invisible_Boat
wispy canopy
Hey guys just realised there must've been a warning the elders or people didn't adhere to
Found this in the intro
kind bobcat
Yes
The intro lines make for very crazy theories.
The elders could've been warned about something by the narrator but chose to ignore it
Which led to the kingdom's destruction
wispy canopy
Yea
Thing is darkness came, and the stars made their home in the clouds, only because darkness came, now
Something happened again for darkness to come this far
I think invasion at wasteland
That's where it probably started
Or the theory of the diamond
gilded fossil
the one in hidden forest is supposed to indicate when the rainbow will appear
@orchid crypt /excuse me??/
gray bridge
yep i'm not sure when the rainbow appears though
tender dune
I think every monday morning?
orchid crypt
@gilded fossil i don't understand what the ping was for; did you have a specific question, or different info about that?
the wiki mentions this about hidden forest's rainbow, but doesn't mention the clock-like stone -- i'm not entirely sure what to make of that
orchid crypt
just found this, regarding mentions of the clock stone
https://sky-children-of-the-light.fandom.com/f/p/3185248821051943305
gilded fossil
/waaaaait, actually, i think i've seen an odd looking stone while farming before
orchid crypt
how do i describe the location...you know the area where you can first enter the sunny forest that has the small crab cave?
there's a lit bonfire on a raised part of the level on the right side (assuming you just entered the area normally) -- the clock stone is near that bonfire, and is something that you normally encounter on candle runs because you actually burn dark plants off of it
it's at the candle cluster this player is heading towards at 4:39 (rewind or scrub forward a bit to get your bearings if that timestamp doesn't make it clear where that is)
mild lark
The king is taller than I thought
mild lark
Just about to ask that lol
gilded fossil
/but the valley twins looks even hotter then
mild lark
Lol
kind bobcat
mild lark
You see their character design
kind bobcat
What's with the /
mild lark
Should*
tender dune
Why they so red? Were they painted for the ceremonies or something?
gilded fossil
What's with the /
@kind bobcat /a signature so that when i steal phones people knows who has whose phone, although the game just "red" all my words soo
gilded fossil
Why they so red? Were they painted for the ceremonies or something?
@tender dune /maybe they were put there by the people. white candles tends to unlock doors an stuff, red ones are just ..there
gilded fossil
/aaaah, they're seasoned
mild lark
Didn't I said the crab on valley are livestock?
No? Ok
The twins character design.. looking pretty cool
Found it on the pins
topaz girder
whats this building
gilded fossil
The twins character design.. looking pretty cool
@mild lark /they're frickin hooooooot
broken basin
Current one also is terrifying though
gilded fossil
/i want old concept krill back!!! (although, my phone cant even handle current krill let alone a lot of wavy hair
granite totem
I'd have cried if the old concept krill attacked me
gilded fossil
/im afraid of hair, not blocky roombas
frail talon
Okay okay so I remembered someone mentioned looking for leitmotifs in the music when it released(?). I just wanted to say that yeah, there's an obvious leitmotif in a lot of the music. (Possible end game spoilers) ||So yenno the voice that sings when you go through orbit? That tune can be heard at least a few other places in the game. I know for sure I've heard it in one of the vault tracks, and I'm pretty sure it's in prairie too. I think I've heard it partially at the start of Eden(The big bwoaaa bwoaaa bwoa bwoaa that plays when you see the big red crystal for the first time after the first area of rocks). At least to me it sounds like some of the same notes. It'd make sense for it to be everywhere else too.|| Idk tho, I just have ears lol
broken basin
Tbh the new krill is scarier and the old one is cooler
frail talon
Srry it's a bit off topic but I remembered just now-
mild lark
No need to mark spoiler here
frail talon
;3; Oopsie
broken basin
Yep
frail talon
I was a bit unsure abt it lol
mild lark
Yeah you can unleash the word eden as much as you want
frail talon
Niice
I don't remember who mentioned looking for leitmotifs tho, but those are just things I've noticed while playing the game
gray bridge
me!! i mentioned the leitmotifs !
mild lark
I rarely use headphones so I have never noticed that
gilded fossil
/the leitmotif is fricken everywhere!!! i heard it while racing
frail talon
But there's also a music sheet you can play with that melody
I dont remember which one, but I'm pretty sure it's from a base game spirit
gray bridge
butterfly spirit in prairie!
frail talon
You sure?
gray bridge
wait, music sheet?
frail talon
A sheet you can get in-game
gray bridge
hmm let me check
frail talon
Gonna see if I can find it on the wiki hold on
gilded fossil
/ah, i heared while getting butterfly spirit too!
A sheet you can get in-game
@frail talon /try the foxband they play all the sheets
gray bridge
i have a bunch of leitmotifs typed down and some tracks have multiple leitmotifs, so it's kinda hard for me to remember on the top of my head atm
mild lark
Does it tell us about anything lore? Am I missing something here :(
frail talon
the main melody at least plays on the piano
gray bridge
leitmotifs could be lore-relted
frail talon
I think piano and harp play the same melodies
gray bridge
i have a theory on a few of the tracks
frail talon
Leitmotifs are usually used to connect everything together in a way, arent they?
gilded fossil
/hmm not lore, but the leitmotif represent a time in memory
gray bridge
yep! they're supposed to represent a sort of theme/idea
frail talon
Like. They use the same melody so it feels familiar, but maybe has a different theme..?
gilded fossil
/also, Valley Twins theme is called "the two heroes???"
gray bridge
no that's the wasteland elder's theme
kind bobcat
Yes
frail talon
Checked the wiki again, the sheet is from the manta call dude in Valley-
gilded fossil
/whaaaaaaat???
frail talon
😂
gilded fossil
/wait i thought it was for the valley twins?
kind bobcat
No, the valley twins theme is "Lets Play"
frail talon
Name makes it seem like its for the twins
mild lark
Two elders having civil war on wasteland ???
gray bridge
pines came in and said it could be because you (skid) are the second hero as you're saving the spirits
gilded fossil
/holy eden this ties my elder 3 and 5 hated each other theory
tender dune
Okay okay so I remembered someone mentioned looking for leitmotifs in the music when it released(?). I just wanted to say that yeah, there's an obvious leitmotif in a lot of the music. (Possible end game spoilers) ||So yenno the voice that sings when you go through orbit? That tune can be heard at least a few other places in the game. I know for sure I've heard it in one of the vault tracks, and I'm pretty sure it's in prairie too. I think I've heard it partially at the start of Eden(The big bwoaaa bwoaaa bwoa bwoaa that plays when you see the big red crystal for the first time after the first area of rocks). At least to me it sounds like some of the same notes. It'd make sense for it to be everywhere else too.|| Idk tho, I just have ears lol
@frail talon the end music also sounded a lot like isle music, just with a different tune
kind bobcat
When the ost came out yesterday, most of us thought the heroes in the name "Two Heroes" could be :
- You and the wasteland elder
- A fallen elder that fought beside the wasteland elder
- Vault elder and wasteland elder
- You and someone else.
gilded fossil
/what about forest elder and wasteland elder?
tender dune
Or two heroes could be the spear ppl and shield ppl leaders
kind bobcat
I don't know.
frail talon
Do they have any special connection outside being elders tho?
frail talon
Sure sure, but how so? We know they're all Elders but idk if there's any more in-game stuff that connects two specififc ones other than the twins-
kind bobcat
All the elders knew eachother
gilded fossil
/what about the shield that has a diamond on it?
gray bridge
the flight music to orbit can be heard in lv4 sleep emote, manta theme, an invitation, upwards dance and the story thus far according to my leitmotif notes which i haven't updated in a while-
kind bobcat
That's Sky's theme
gray bridge
yes
frail talon
Ya
gray bridge
i have it named as 'manta the kidnapper'
kind bobcat
The 4-5 notes
frail talon
We know, but it's a leitmotif in the music
frail talon
Bro we know its the main theme
kind bobcat
What makes you think i said you dont know 
frail talon
the way you're explaining it??
frail talon
Yknow what nvm that
mild lark
How does the similarity of this theme gives us any clue about what happened? Other than the name of theme.. how?
gray bridge
leitmotif-wise
?
ok let me type in my theory, might be wrong but
this is particularly on 'lost and found'
mild lark
I'll search what leitmotif mean first lol
gray bridge
roughly the beginning lost and found have the same chord progression as most of the elder's themes
kind bobcat
it's the child of light, it was always the child of light
gray bridge
in particular, you can compare it to 'the story thus far'
frail talon
In what part of the game does Lost and found play?
gray bridge
they start of similar, just that the story thus far adds in the additional leitmotif of the sky/manta the kidnapper theme lol
when you hug the shiny boy in eden
frail talon
Ohh
gray bridge
what's interesting to note that in the vault cutscene, all the elders bow to you
this kind of ties in with another theory of mine
that the col = king = the shiny boy in eden = skykid
frail talon
col..?
sweet dirge
Children of light
gray bridge
if such a leitmotif plays when the shiny kid is there, wouldn't that mean that the kid is a sort of elder? since the leitmotif only plays in elder cutscenes
*child of light
because there's a singular child of light in the intro
sweet dirge
Lol yea
frail talon
sweet dirge
mild lark
Heavily related to the elders...
gray bridge
the only hole in this theory would be that two heroes doesn't have the 'elder' leitmotif
and i think forest mom? i should re-check
gray bridge
somewhat
wispy canopy
In wasteland there are 2 shields and 2 spears
A spear next to a shield, and a spear thru a sheild
Two warriors may have dueled
It is battlefield so can't actually count on it but it's an idea
What's a leitmotif
mild lark
One soldiers uses one sheild.. and the enemies uses one spear.. if there was two spear and two sheild.. that mean there four people have dueled there. One warrior wouldn't uses to sheild do they?
wispy canopy
A soldier can use a shield and a spear
An elder did it
Spear in one hand, shield in another
So two warriors dueled
8th with a shield and a spear in hand
mild lark
The spear user was attacking the sheild user .. it was not the same person .. imo
wispy canopy
This a tgeory
mild lark
A GAME THEO-
wispy canopy
Yea
Tru
This is tuff
So what could the two warriors mean
There has to be some physical evidence
I'll listen to the soundtrack
Is it on utube guys
?
gray bridge
ost link on yt
~~sorry i got really excited earlier, i've never really seen anyone else discuss leitmotifs until now ~~
frail talon
I've watched like 2 youtube vids about music in games and thats t lol
But I think it's interestng to hear and talk about how music is used in games and movies
mild lark
@gray bridge I kinda see where you going with this leitmotif theory..
gray bridge
yeah i've watched a youtube channel that deals with that topic, that's why i think it'd be real nice to analyse the music for sky, regardless lore-wise or not
frail talon
||Tbh I've been wantng to get more into it since I like playing music mysel||
mild lark
Did I see a normal building??
sweet dirge
In the concepts
They thought of introducing sky by transitioning from the real world to the sky kingdom
That's what they came up with
frail talon
Ooh old wasteland concepts right?
wispy canopy
Must be concept for office
mild lark
Damn imagine if real human are actually in this game... They be farming light with solar panel
frail talon
The old wasteland concepts were abt seeing more modern buildings and stuff iirc
gray bridge
no office is based on tgc's office i think
frail talon
Old wasteland elder was weird slug spider thing with TVs and stuff in it
frail talon
Lemme see if I can find some of the pics-
kind bobcat
@mild lark back then the levels before eden was an urban city
sweet dirge
The information I got was from their 7 days of sky
frail talon
Wasn't Wasteland too?
mild lark
Damn I wish I found this game sooner
sweet dirge
gray bridge
can you believe how much it developed 
wispy canopy
Wow
kind bobcat
From the human world to a whole new world.
frail talon
I cant find the pic but I think they got it on their insta-
kind bobcat
disney vibes
gray bridge
it's always been disneyland, huh
wispy canopy
That means they were aiming for a human world before changing it to a complete different civilisation
mild lark
I've seen all the pictures on the pins about the game development.. yeah it was pretty cool
kind bobcat
Yes
gray bridge
hi boop 
wispy canopy
Hi
mild lark
What isekai'd mean?
sweet dirge
mild lark
Ooo
sweet dirge
I see the spikies regenerate when my friend misses burning it fully
mild lark
Is the prince still in this game?
mild lark
I wonder what the true height of the king
The kind look taller than the wasteland elders.. which is the second biggest elder
Yeah I have that concept art in my gallery
I just wonder how tall the king is when our skykid is next to it
kind bobcat
Well, the king isnt as tall as his statues.
Right?
mild lark
Can't help but notice he wears a cape that closes his entire body... Or is it even a cape?
mild lark
Mech?
mild lark
Lmao that remind me of the big stone mech at office lol...
That thing be chilling in the cloud
@sweet dirge btw how do you know the king is big robot?
sweet dirge
One of the concepts implies the prince used a beeg suit
delicate coral
Did somebody have a list of leitmotifs?
gray bridge
that was me as well
i gotta re-work it though, i'm not too sure if they're all accurate
delicate coral
oh okay
where would I find that?
I seem to recall that you posted an image of them all a while back
frail talon
👀
delicate coral
oh yeah that'd be cool if you wouldn't mind
frail talon
Res... Could I have the leitmotifs list too..?
gray bridge
i'll dm both of you if yall don't mind
delicate coral
ye sure thing
gray bridge
oh no that's the manta the kidnapper one
sweet dirge
@sweet dirge btw how do you know the king is big robot?
@mild lark
Not exactly a robot but the prince used it as a sort of suit
wispy canopy
What's a leitmotif
gray bridge
this is the best way i can explain it
it's like a melody that represents a certain idea/theme
sweet dirge
A reoccurring theme?
gray bridge
yes
also, that concept art is why we think the king is just a giant mech suit small guy with a huge ego
wispy canopy
R u telling me that a leitmotif is the music in the background that serve some kind of info
gray bridge
yes and that info could possibly be lore-related
though that doesn't necessarily apply to all leitmotifs
wispy canopy
Can u give an example pls, I'd really love to know more bout this
delicate coral
a leitmotif is basically just a recurring musical idea
gray bridge
my favourite example is what i call the 'death' leitmotif
gray bridge
it's not exactly lore-related afaik, but do you know the music in hidden forest?
it's called waltzing in the rain
wispy canopy
Yea
gray bridge
and you know the ending piano solo that plays right before you get reborn
gray bridge
the keys are not the same, but the the progression is
i think it's better if you listen because i'm not sure if i'm using the right terms
delicate coral
yeah the melodic idea is the same, it's just in different keys
wispy canopy
Alrite what's the name for the rebirth one
I know forest song name
What's the rebirth one
delicate coral
that's the first one I linked
It's not in the soundtrack since a different version was used at launch
gray bridge
yep, i hope it comes in vol 2
delicate coral
but yeah, those two that I linked have timestamps to where the leitmotif comes in
gray bridge
the second one starts a bit earlier but yes
i call it the death leitmotif as forest is the first area that properly introduces to you the concept of death (losing light)
yes, it is possible to die in all other areas but you don't really find that out when you first play until you get to forest, and i guess... you're still kinda dead as the music plays since it's only after the piano solo that you see yourself going to homespace
that's just my own theory though, but whether i'm right or not about it exactly, there's some sort of common theme/idea between the two
wispy canopy
I can see how it can sound somewhat similar
Altho they sound diff
There a tad similarity
delicate coral
To clarify, leitmotif doesn't mean the whole song sounds the same
A leitmotif is just one small musical idea which can be found in more than one track
Just saying that because the leitmotif is very clear in those two, not just 'a tad similar'
hm I'm not 100% on it being a death motif though
It makes a lot of sense but I can't see why it wouldn't appear in wasteland's songs or in exhale
gray bridge
yeah i'm skeptical on that too now that i've thought about it more
but idk what else to call it for now
delicate coral
yeah it's fine as a working title
gray bridge
yep, guess i'll have to do some more searching
at the moment a link between forest/what's in forest and orbit/rebirth is pretty unclear to me
mild lark
@sweet dirge so you saying that tiny black dot on the king's head is the prince??
Ok so.. isn't this represents the king's head? So if the prince was that black dot.. this statue is representing the actual king size imo
delicate coral
Rain theme
It’s the rain theme I think
The image here is a raindrop shape
And the theme starts playing in the credits when we start to see this shape more clearly
And obv it also rains in forest
That might not make a whole lot of sense but it’s what I’ve come up with, open for discussion
I think that if we can say with any confidence that ‘rain’ has its own leitmotif, we can then go on to the natural question of what rain represents in the story, because it must be somewhat significant given that it features visually and musically right before rebirth
gray bridge
i can kind of see the raindrop yes, i can roll with the rain thing for now
the only instance of rain (that is, raining water and not rocks) in the game would be in forest
and the rain drains you of your light
delicate coral
Yeah I think we’d need to see the theme reappear in a future season or something to confirm that with any certainty
Two instances really isn’t enough to say for sure but that seems to me like the only thing they have in common that’s not found in any other realm
short owl
oh are we talking abot the kking and his giant body with a crystal on top?
gray bridge
yes
tender dune
lethal stump
he’d have to be actually the size of the wasteland statues if he was a mech
short owl
I think kings "head" is darkstone growing out of his own head
lethal stump
for proof here is me in the kings head at size 1, i fit
lethal stump
in that pic we’re in wasteland battlefield
tender dune
lethal stump
we were doing table glitch around the area
it got rather chaotic
tender dune
Me and my friend yeeted upward in home hahah
I'll probs never be able to reach the island so I'll give up
lethal stump
but my point is, at size 1-ish, i fit inside the kings head with some room to spare, and since the concept art prince is not size 1 but is a bit smaller, i think it’s reasonable to assume the mech would have been about the size of the wasteland statues
short owl
I thought we had a pic showing the statued as smaller than king
lethal stump
lethal stump
you want the king to be taller ?
short owl
YES
lethal stump
short owl
King be tol
gray bridge
he has to make himself as big as his ego
lethal stump
that’s impossible
gray bridge
yes, he expanded himself out of existence
lethal stump
he legit just became darkness
gray bridge
darkness as infinite as his ego