#lore-discussion-spoilers
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is it ok if i can ask a question o:
I have a question too
you can go first
we all have questions 
For me or ktjn?
it's just about the flowers
are the small colorful orb things flowers or something else
for anyone really
it doesn't really matter who answers it 
The round stuff on the grass?
yeah
Yes they’re flowers 🌸
yayy, now we have confirmation that it's not just the flowers in the spirit cutscenes
([sigh] something that catches me all the time is how different chinese and english translation are. like english is just “spirit” and then chinese goes “HOLY ANCESTOR SPIRIT.”)
ah am i allowed to ask: is the armillary sphere in citadel supposed to resemble the light ball sphere in orbit and two planets in the credits the smaller golden spheres?
anyway came here to say gw’s music esp around the broken temple sounds like game of thrones. they both say the same thing after all: that those kingdoms are or were heckin BIG
No not really
then what is it supposed to resemble 
It doesn’t resemble anything but has to do with the backstory of the level
Some members here may have heard my little blurb
You can poke around 🙂
Are crabs... Rocks dipped in corrupted water?
thank you reika 
Hullo lore people, just sneaking by
oh I know!
What's up with the inscriptions in the cave of lost ark?
citadel was for the Higher Class so that would include astronomers
@karmic ledge @frigid crown i leave the channel alone for a few hours and y'all incite chaos 
😳
did ktjn just cold pin ash 


im only crying because reikas better at inciting chaos than me
drop a lore hint and the chat will be set on fire
i didn't realise the devs were even more chaotic than us regular lurkers 
thats the real hidden lore
the real lore was the lurkers we found along the way
sky lore has been solved, we can all go home now
I mean... she is the king, so it makes sense 
Btw, which door exactly does the !spoiler refer to when talking about eden? 
The home one or the 5 crystal one
5 crystal probably
For you late night owls....what the ..... is this?!
Theories... go!!
I’m heading to be have work in the morning.
a manta in need of a massage
Oooo is that was it looks likkee
That's stucked there
Why aren't there any birds in the water when we have mantas in the sky?
So mantas need massages to look.. well manta-like?
when will the chiropractors think of the mantas 
That's probably a bug
Fyi this is a lonely manta in the valley flying race oob
note to self: manta yoga is scary 
It tied itself up by its tail
Why aren't there any birds in the water when we have mantas in the sky?
@hushed steeple birds are in the sanctuary water
mantas can do mantartial arts
Yeah that one in orbit too, that was a nice surprise and my afk friend went confused
Hey, if it takes <1-2 seconds (run to walk) to walk 3 meters, and we take 12 hours to go from Isle to Eden (according to sunrise and sunset), how long is the (straightforward) route to Eden?
i've never looked into physical distances for sky but that's like 28800 meters from isle to eden going by your numbers?
(12x60x60)/1.5
technically for vault we move up rather than move forward though
Time to measure the walls of vault then.
omg
actually out? i'm not seeing anything on twitter besides the preview from a couple of days ago
AAAAAAAA
ooh, many thanks!
ALRIGHT LETS TRANSCRIBE THE OPENING
welcome
i am now going to hunt for leitmotifs
i haven't found it yet but can i finally listen to the piano solo on repeat 
@cedar radish you also have to consider the path we take isn't a straight line. If it's 28800 meters that we travel in total it might be more like 16400 meters in distance with all the turns in the map as well as all the detours we take (reliving memories of spirits, collecting WL, burning corruption.)
one of the vault room's songs is called "for those who have come before"
ITS ON SPOTIFY DISBBEJDNDBD
bless vincent diamente
I get that there’s a bit more lore confirmation with these songs BUT I RLLY DO LOVE THEM CUZ OF THE NOSTALGIA AND MEMORIES AND AHHH I LOVE SKY’S MUSIC
Free crying session at #lore-discussion-spoilers

Tonight's sleep is going to be the best i've had in weeks
Waltzing in the Rain and Flight 
Wasteland's theme is " Before a Fall "
I n t e r e s t i n g 
Ye I was just looking at that too, very interesting
Cries in non Spotify premium 
On the one hand it could just refer to the fall we go through after the social hub in wasteland
But that’s too easy and it’s less fun than if we assume it’s talking about the fall of the kingdom
Can someone identify where " The Deep " is played?
It’s on YouTube as well by the way, in case you can’t skip through the other osts like flower: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k1R6DydEdAJjeyYZGNWXximKKIcicsu68
UGHH THE ONE TIME I CANCEL MY PREMIUM
It won’t let me view the songs and if I can’t view them....no lore 
WHERE THE EDEN SOUNDTRACKS AT
Allg, I also don’t have premium so I figured that YouTube would be the place to look
Desktop spotify will display them all even without premium!
M a n t a
insert sound of skykids screaming here
Is it wrong that i find the Eden soundtrack peaceful
Not at all
no
Desktop spotify will display them all even without premium!
Hm, that’s strange
I’m using Spotify on my console, pc, phone and tablet and it still won’t let me view the songs
The deep is one of my fave songs on the soundtrack
Where does the deep get played
Must be my McDonald’s WiFi 
Theres whole hidden instruments covered up by the sound of wind and rocks falling 
Ive only ever heard the violin bits before haha
I've been only hearing the sound of the strings this whole time
And now there's a piano
What is the storm lock soundtrack called?
The Deep
Oooo
I love this song
AHHHH THERES TRUMPETS TOO
Right!?
usually we'd be too busy dying when we hear this song
Our first time hearing the whole musical chorus 
Too busy dying to hear the amazing background music 
can i just say i love the piano in the deep
i love it
Now i'm going to do my quests with " The Current " on loop
Odd how the main songs in eden is named after water or the ocean.
god i just had the weirdest deja vu moment
Now we can listen to eden music while in praire 😎
it kinda adds to the aquatic theme of sky with sea animals and boats in the sky 
nice catch goob
wait doesn't exhale play in stormlock with all the statues? i can hear a bit of it above the falling rocks
I love how the deep is super peaceful and sounds like it would be added to a peaceful place of adventure....
But everytime I hear it I always think of that moment in eden where we are trying to get to that last gate in while dodging the krill and the rocks 
I have to admit, the choir singer sounds a whole lot better on the soundtrack
which one 
there's quite a few leitmotifs in the ost
oo i think i know what you're talking about
I think exhale is played when you die
Does anyone know when “two heroes” is being played in the game
Lore purposes
well then who’s the second hero 
Was he jus hidin in the back or sumtin while wasteland dad was swinging his stuff
Does that imply GW elder being at two sides?
@hushed steeple hey nice catch
maybe he was an undercover rebel 
Yeah, two heroes is the gw elder cutscene
he has two sides of him that he presents to the two sides of the war?
WHY TWO HEROES
Hmmm
1 hero, us who is saving the wasteland elder
2nd hero is the wasteland elder himself
That’s my only guess so far
Ngl Two Heroes would be perfect for a Sky epic cinematic trailer.
Off topic but I rlly I love how “vault” sounds a LOT like elevator music
And then I remembered vault is an elevator 
:insert_crying_laugh_emoji_but_i_have_no_nitro:
should i try to compile all the tracks and put their locations 
That might actually help
A lot of songs I’m jus like “ahhhh where did I hear this “
Meanwhile, the eden ost :
DUNNNNNNNNNNN
DUUUUNNNNNN
DUNNNNNNNNNNN
DUUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNNN
anyways cant wait for someone to make Flight's sheet music
I AGREE
The Current & The Deep
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AFSQs8wzIiUc0aoh_F33UwAfbpWSkCQ_EJguMMyOM98/edit?usp=sharing correct me if i'm wrong for any of the tracks
Aw man, i'm already near the end of the album 
FYI looks like they're being uploaded to TGCs youtube channel now
The Current only plays in Eden's 2nd Zone
The red area
Isle Temple
Isle Temple shrine room
maybe
Shame they didnt give Isle's soundtrack
😔
@kind bobcat your pfp looks menacing, make it more scary.
hM
What to discuss..
I know.
it's been that way for a week 
That's a thick oreo 
I love nino’s video haha
@hushed steeple no, unfortunately.
It's two mantas having a date around the sanctuary islands
neither did I :((
i think someone mentioned they were recording all the cutscenes but i forgot who
Hm, the second song in the sky ost, “Opening Breath.” We now know that the person who is calling us is either a woman who is trying to sacrifice us, or simply. A woman.
Hm, I think when sky loses it’s stars.
Wait, it’s out already:00? What did I missed
It means, the other “Light.” The place we go too to obtain Elder hairs.
Still wondering why the wasteland elder ost is called " Two Heroes "
When its only one elder
Will also die along when each “The light.” / stars.
As each creature offers them the light.
Possibly, there are other rulers.
Maybe youre the other hero 
Or sky kids that are not even sky kids. More like sea kids.
Maybe youre the other hero
@icy pewter does getting krill still consider as a hero
You are the one helping save the spirits
Ooo okok, you guys’ theory makes more sense, idk why I didn’t thought of that
@kind bobcat Answering to your question-
My Theory is:
The two heroes were Vault and Wasteland, Vault was a sorcerer accompanying Wasteland. They were fighting against a krill or stopping something much more lethal than a krill.. Vault probably saved Wasteland and lost an eye during it. So Vault instead decided to work for the Vault of Knowledge.
oR
The title is probably shipping those two-
hM
I pretend i do not see 
You’re killing me 
Anyways
@kind bobcat you see
The song gets played in the wasteland elder cutscene
And the only elder present is the wasteland elder
Does anyone have a theory as in why krills hates us? I’m interested in knowing
Vault elder was trying to record wasteland elder jump off a tower and look awesome, but he tripped on the skykid instead
What are your thoughts Sen!
The only thing i have in mind is that the previous elders/spirits ruined the krills’ habitat, but i think there’s more 🤔
O no
Why is the upgraded emote we get from the lookout scout just Vin using his personal confused emote in pulp fiction?
I forgot about crabs D::
Full track listing here too for anyone unable to open all the other places
https://thatskygame.com/news/sky-soundtrack-launches-as-game-crosses-35-million-downloads
`You see Wasteland, badly injured. His light energy was exhausted and a blue light shone upon him. The light turned red as the krill bent upwards about to strike.
Vault saw this and ran towards Wasteland going in front of him, Vault then used all her light energy in her sacred artifact: The crystal. She casts a shield spell once the krill charged.
The entire area was filled with light, slowly it faded. We see the crystal scratched and damaged. But not fully broken. We also see Vault lifeless on the sands of The Golden Wasteland. The wasteland elder rubs his eyes as he saw his dear friend die infront of him.. `
If you’re interested, please let me know the story ^^
and probably, vault was the first one too die.
`You see Wasteland, badly injured. His light energy was exhausted and a blue light shone upon him. The light turned red as the krill bent upwards about to strike.
Vault saw this and ran towards Wasteland going in front of him, Vault then used all her light energy in her sacred artifact: The crystal. She casts a shield spell once the krill charged.
The entire area was filled with light, slowly it faded. We see the crystal scratched and damaged. But not fully broken. We also see Vault lifeless on the sands of The Golden Wasteland. The wasteland elder rubs his eyes as he saw his dear friend die infront of him.. `
@jovial nacelle Your love theory is starting to rub on me
the elders aren't dead though
How did we meet Valut elder tho?
@hushed steeple they stole our flame >:((
Surely there would be an elder before they became elders.
@hushed steeple Vincent Vega
https://youtu.be/RqJVa0fl01w
How, did they become elders.
@jovial nacelle my friend, told me that he think it’s because before they die, they were important members to the sky world
They just can’t be like promoted to elder immediately.
Elders are elders
@hushed steeple big brain 🧠
the elders were always elders
LIGHT UP LIGHTBULB
Mmmmm
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k1R6DydEdAJjeyYZGNWXximKKIcicsu68
offtopic but heres the yt link of the ost for those who dont have those music accounts
what about "lost and found"
Promoted himself 🤣
ima get science right now here.
The Law of Conservation of Energy states that: “Energy cannot be created nor destroyed. It can only be transformed or transferred.” With this statement, The Light or the person who is the light, was made from another source. But from where. 
ok, Megan is added onto the list.
Megan
CoL
Megan CoL
we're not even sure megan is part of the current sky lore
CoL implies CoD
@hushed steeple or, protested
Or the thirst of power driven him to that state.
To the point he was wiped out of existence by TGC
But still, we need to confirm if wasteland and vault were the two heroes.
i think its between you and the wasteland elder
Is there any doubt wasteland wasn't?
if you’re referring to the song’s name
So one of my friend, name’s Hazel. He has a theory that everyone in the Sky
world is dead besides us.
Sky citizens ruined the habitat of krills and crabs, before that, we live together in harmony. Take the white poofy boy in the sunny forest as an example.
So, a war broke out between us and other living creatures. The battle field is located in Wasteland. After the war, the only thing that remains is the library, which is vault. It’s a shelter place.
Then Eden is our last destination, we save other light kids. And the cycle repeats.
Spirits and elders were important members of society before they die.
Sending images of the songs in Spotify to give you more lore.
Hm, Faded glories. That means where Forest either has fallen.
for me the most interesting ones are “the two heroes” and “for those who have come before”
@spring blaze what about, “For those who have come before”?
Who knows. Two Heroes might also mean how GW elder is on two sides. The diamond and sunburst
@hushed steeple Diamond and sunburst :0? May I ask what are those?
Are those songs in any particular order? Because two heroes could just refer to the valley elders.
Hm, Faded glories. That means where Forest either has fallen.
@jovial nacelle O was it for forest? I mean the Forest elder seems to have problems to me, she give me attitude >:(( Stole my fire. Probably was a woman with pride before her fall
two heroes is the theme of the wasteland elder's cutscene, so it has something to do with wasteland elder 
I mean GW elder has two diff symbols on his shields
@hushed steeple aaaa, understood
two heroes is the wasteland elder music
Hm, what if “The Light.” disappeared, exploded or imploded. Where would sky kids go then? Would they lose their purpose or be lost.. or have a new hope somewhere since it might be possible there are other locations of “The light.”
i can almost hear his grunts and spear thrusts
Why do I feel like the elders knew sky kids were the cause of the destruction and their birth and just let the spirits die and wait for them like thousands or millions of years-
We were the cause of the destruction? 
H,
What if, the Lights were the kids that die tragically and their spirit is stuck there 👀? And we have to recollect them because they didn’t want to let go?
Ima go back to my star theory
Stars form when a star explodes and the nebula like makes stars.
We were the cause of the destruction?
@kind bobcat idk about others but i 100% is the cause
Those stars are us.
The light is the big glowy ball in orbit
So, that “supernova” was probably the birth of “The light.”
Hmmm
And also, we are not stars
@kind bobcat it’s my theory though-
Unless you mean stars as an analogy
Yes, i also do personally believe so
@rain meadow I think the lights are scattered fragments of sky kids who were turned to stone in Eden. We collect them and return their light to them in Eden.
Hm, notice how some of the sky kids in Eden their spirit didn’t escape.
Oop
And they just crumble to death-
@rain meadow I think the lights are scattered fragments of sky kids who were turned to stone in Eden. We collect them and return their light to them in Eden.
@hushed steeple Oooooooo :00 so they all die in eden due to the rocks and krills :(( Poor babies. Or so i thought
Do their dust become like- shiny bois
Lol yes

@rain meadow they died I assume because of the darkstone that fractured.
@rain meadow they died I assume because of the darkstone that fractured.
@hushed steeple Darkstone? I’m a little slow, can you give me more details?
Or atleast, fix the destruction it caused
@hushed steeple so we’re just replacements 😔
Mmmmmm
Could be the source of the elders' godly powers
Think of the Eden Diamond as a system that’s running out of stars.
We, are the people we need to give birth to stars so that we can “fix” the system.
The nebula we send out will form other stars that is supporting the system. But, it’s not enough.
The eden crystal is a fractured power diamond
@kind bobcat elders could’ve used flex tape-
Aaaaaaa understood, i was about to ask you that
Flex tape-
@kind bobcat elders could’ve used flex tape-
@jovial nacelle omg you have big brain
King : " TO SHOW YOU THE POWER OF FLEX TAPE "
" I SAWED THIS CRYSTAL IN HALF "
It also seemingly powered skies civilization aside from meditation powering their arcs I guess.
The power crystals
Yes, darkstone crystals were the main source of power
@kind bobcat but then he was thanos snapped by tgc before he could fully attach the flex tape which caused all the destruction.
They manufactured it in forest
And possibly GW
But, how is there energy in the dark stone 🤔?
I’m starting to think, if sky kids actually finished their task.l
Then, sky kids would have no purpose at all.
They eventually vanish
Back to orbit.
Is it an endless source of energy?
Back to the light.
They combined butterflies with darkness.
So, it’s best if we don’t complete our task fixing the light..
or they continue to live on the sky kingdom
I’m starting to think, if sky kids actually finished their task.l
@jovial nacelle Eden looking at you from the corner like 👁👁
The spirits will remember us though
But, we will soon be forgotten.
hM
Getting sad here-
They combined butterflies with darkness.
@hushed steeple DDD: my light babies
Someone can explain it better than I can but in prairie we see them collecting butterflies to be made into power crystals.
i think that if we finish our task, at that point in our skykids lives we already found something else to live for
NO
YES
THEY’Re evil
They combined butterflies with darkness.
@hushed steeple they combined butterflies with darkstone* not darkness
They ganged up on me 😔
I GOT ATTACK BY FOUR AT ONCE
I GOT ATTACKED BY AN ENTIRE SQUADRON
little angry pests who needs love
YES GINNY-
TO HONKS
@jovial nacelle THEY COULD’VE JOIN ME INSTEAD
ALSO, JELLY BABIES
little angry pests who needs love
@spring blaze they no need me love 😔
jellybabies!!!!
@rain meadow FOR YOU TO SLAUGHTER THEM
Also what's up with crabs? Are they rocks? I saw cave inscriptions of ancestors maybe carrying rocks and then there were crabs in water between them.
Hm, guessing crabs were pets.
@rain meadow FOR YOU TO SLAUGHTER THEM
@jovial nacelle DDD:<< shhh the crabs are going to hear youu
And was corrupted.
im mad they only addad ONE (1) JELLY BABY IN GAME THAT IS THE HANDS ON HIPS STANCE’S KID
@spring blaze hM
Jelly baby
Is it the jelly spirit you’re talking about?
AAAAA 
The end of the inscription basically says they left the crabs in the caves and in the caves there's just a bunch of freekin crabs.
Hm, I should add a calm no.
Crabs are just angery rocks
AAAAA
@jovial nacelle you just wanna see the world burn
They look like rocks and those cave drawings really make a compelling argument.
Crabs are just angery rocks
@jade brook the rocks seems angry enough to me
@rain meadow uhh, aren’t sky kids already burning-
For a second i thought i was in a wrong convo
@rain meadow uhh, aren’t sky kids already burning-
@jovial nacelle I-
Also I found this little clutch of corruption. I lit it on fire and it released a bunch of butterflies.
Talking about crabs me and my friends make a heart crabs, they wiggles around so much it’s adorable
Oh yeh i took a pic of that yesterday 😂 😂
Also I found this little clutch of corruption. I lit it on fire and it released a bunch of butterflies.
@hushed steeple DDD: butterfly were stuck in there
I was trying to find another buttefly pit but I can't find it anymore
I had a theory that those were the dragons eggs but now I'm really not sure what they are.
Nah they're corruption flowers
What are those eggs in forest
@rain meadow literal easter eggs
Have nothing to do with the game
I wonder what it would look like if you stuck a bunch of the crabs together
DDDD: evil
Couldn't they be Megan's eggs?
Nope
I spent way too much time trying to figure it out
Same sen
I wonder what it would look like if you stuck a bunch of the crabs together
@jade brook big wiggles
I wonder what it would look like if you stuck a bunch of the crabs together
@jade brook they kinda phase in each other, nothing will happen
crabs are decorator crabs!
decorator crabs take rocks and coral and stick it on their shell for camouflage
?!?? Then what about the real crabs
decorator crabs take rocks and coral and stick it on their shell for camouflage
@mellow sable O you were talking about the specie

Rocks are friends
Crabs are evil rocks
Oh lol I meant from a concept as the crabs do seem to be rocky golem things
The devs just want to see us suffer
Concept is they're dark creatures. Dark creatures design is sharper and rock-like
Yeah
If u go see the pinned messages in this channel
Light creatures are more flowy and smooth
:0 oo where to find it? I’m not use to disc just yet
kreb
just like sky crabs!
It would be cool if the crabs could just ignore you instead of the constant tackle
the crabs in the archipelago are peaceful
Aaaaaaa
only crabs near dark plants are hostile
Thank you!!
Np
the crabs in office are peaceful too
only crabs near dark plants are hostile
@mellow sable not really
Office crabs and the 2 sanctuary crabs are peaceful
vault crabs hurt me >:(
Most aggressive are the wasteland /sanctuary/valley
oh right, vault crabs
vault crabs hurt me >:(
@spring blaze there’re crabs in Vault???
Some crabs are chill until you honk and they get angry
also, the office and archipelago crabs don't have dandruff coming off them
They enjoy the darkness
that's how the ark crabs got corrupted too
spirits messed up the water which drove out the creatures of light
Low key though, I think it would be fun to play in a group that was more or less dedicated to impersonating the elders lol
The crabs used to live in peace along ppl and light creatures. But then they emptied the crabs water source and so it made them angry = ended up chasing the spirits
I can't send my chat link about crabs on phone unfortunately
Low key though, I think it would be fun to play in a group that was more or less dedicated to impersonating the elders lol
@jade brook omg sounds like a plan
The crabs used to live in peace along ppl and light creatures. But then they emptied the crabs water source and so it made them angry = ended up chasing the spirits
@tender dune oooooooooo
Low key though, I think it would be fun to play in a group that was more or less dedicated to impersonating the elders lol
@jade brook im like 92%? Or something close to getting forest elder hair
😂 😂 😂

I’ve been trying to complete forest elder lol, but I’m concerned I’ll struggle with becoming a y’all boi
((a y'all boi?))
Tall*
Oh xD
@jade brook if you ever do that I wanna be wasteland 
Sounds good
Oops sorry, that must not be allow
I apologize
Its an interesting challenge to get enough people to get each elder I think
Strange why they blocked that word lol
Its an interesting challenge to get enough people to get each elder I think
@jade brook nyes
Anyways, kakashi hair
Yesss
Is 2nd on my list
I lowkey regretted working on Forest instead of GW or Valley
That’s fair
Also, did you know the GW wear heels? They’re probably combat boots but i like heels better. He/
gotta have fashion while youre fighting
gotta have fashion while youre fighting
@icy pewter nyes
Im always too busy standing on his head
Lol
Quite literally
Anyways cough LORE
I’m still curious about the krills’ origin
okay but could someone dumb down what king propaganda is for me. 
Dw I don't understand it either because english aint my native lang
My theory is that the krills were used as guards to protect eden (before the kaboom). But now after the destruction they kinda roam around
okay but could someone dumb down what king propaganda is for me.
@kind loom Are you asking about the king propaganda part? Idk what dumb down mean
My theory is that the krills were used as guards to protect eden (before the kaboom). But now after the destruction they kinda roam around
@tender dune kaboom?
Dumb down means can someone explain it
Kaboom is when they diamond exploded and caused all this destruction and annihilation
I just say kaboom cuz its faster xD
It’s also cuter eheh
propaganda:
1.information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.
So add king to it, making kings sounds more powerful than they are ig, or that’s how I understand it
ah so basically there's a bunch of king statues and symbols particularly in wasteland
😂
Yes
Hahaha
As you can see from forgotten ark, wasteland wasnt always so...dead and empty
It’s kinda a classic hubris downfall
we don't know why they're there but there's a theory that it's because the king wanted to intimidate the people there to support him so king propaganda, i can't find the full theory our former king propagandist and king brick has atm but that's all i can explain for now
Yeah I'll let resh explain propaganda for me later

Atm? The money thingy?
at the moment
I kinda wonder what the reason the spinning bell things are so significant
The ones at praire that call the mantas?
And in sanctuary
And why are there cheerings at the end of a race in valley but no people
What are even the spinning things in valley for?
And why are there cheerings at the end of a race in valley but no people
@rain meadow because there is no one anymore
What are even the spinning things in valley for?
@rain meadow oh god that thing i need to find its name again😂 😂 😂 😂
from the bell transcription doc in the pins, it's an observation that the bell looks like tibetan prayer wheels
these tibetan prayer wheels have mantras/prayers on them, so spinning the wheel would be like saying the prayer verbally
when a bell spins, light creatures are summoned into existence, so perhaps the stuff on the bells are some sort or prayer/mantra to create light creatures
They are heat bells btw
That thing is an astrological thing for star positioning
IF ONLY I CAN LINK MY DISSCORD CHAT ON PHONE THINGS WOULD BE EASIER
Ohmigosh
That thing is an astrological thing for star positioning
@tender dune now i wanna be in citadel at night
It must be pretty
Armillary sphere
THATS THE NAME
You'll find the convo here if you search "Armillary sphere"
Ohmigosh
the armillary sphere/orrery in citadel with the golden rings have something to do with the backstory of the level according to one of the devs. what back story? we don't know yet, and i'm not sure if it's referring to citadel itself or valley as a whole
Okok
I have a completely different sky lore here: so for season of belonging, there's actually grandmother's bell in oob near the tree (with fireplace) in sunny forest; for enchantment (Ark), there used to be the mushrooms with candles, which matches the mushrooms of the playfight spirit; and finally there's ||a shell in the corner of the beach|| in Sanctuary Islands, which matches the Grateful Shellfish collector spirit. I hope you find this interesting!
No need to add spoilers here👌
Huh
is it from beta?
no, it's live @gray bridge
ohh okay thanks! cool observation btw o:
Also anyone have any idea how the island elder got his face smashed?
What
Island?
O haha
Beach place
Isle of dawn the first elder?
I thought islands has an elder
isle of dawn?
Also anyone have any idea how the island elder got his face smashed?
@jade brook he got beef with the foret elder i bet
isle of dawn?
@gray bridge nyes
He got the bonk
perhaps the birds misbehaved
The got the weapon stick thingy
perhaps the birds misbehaved
@fluid kayak and pierced to his face D::
So aggressive
The got the weapon stick thingy
@rain meadow my first reaction: why are they holding paddles?!
Here u go
It would be funny if he accidentally bonked himself with his own staff
@rain meadow my first reaction: why are they holding paddles?!
@fluid kayak my first thought too hahahaahaha
Hi! Is it intentional that our capes doesn't have any shadow?
It would be funny if he accidentally bonked himself with his own staff
@jade brook ooo a good chance, nyes
Hi! Is it intentional that our capes doesn't have any shadow?
@pastel mortar I personally believe yes
The got the weapon stick thingy
@rain meadow thats a sheperd staff, because he sheperds us (and probably sheperd the old boats in ise of dawn)
We started with no cape, ended up with no cape after eden
@rain meadow thats a sheperd staff, because he sheperds us (and probably sheperd the old boats in ise of dawn)
@tender dune Ooooooooooo
Hi! Is it intentional that our capes doesn't have any shadow?
@pastel mortar most likely because the capes are made of light from the connected part of us. So light doesn't have a shadow
Only our body is made of indifferent so its physical
What teth said ^
Awesome, thanks!
Np
I womder what are we even made of now
We're hybrids
Didn’t someone said we were flex tapes for the elders’ mistakes
fire doesn’t cast a shadow actually, interesting to exhibit with a match
Star bits
we're probably hybrids of light and darkness
Half connected (the winged lights) and half indifferent. It's in the concept art let me bring it up again
Half connected (the winged lights) and half indifferent. It's in the concept art let me bring it up again
@tender dune nyes please
I feel special now ejejeej
Hahaha
The indifferent looks very cool though
The ones on the left basically have flame and light. The ones on the right can't produce light so they rely on us (correct me if im wrong)
The ones on the left basically have flame and light. The ones on the right can't produce light so they rely on us (correct me if im wrong)
@tender dune omigosh
Yeah
Is that why we’re fully charged when collect a winged light
We're basically made to correct the kings kaboom since they were unable to go to megabird
And when we sits on the animals
The intro sequence references this idea
We're basically made to correct the kings kaboom since they were unable to go to megabird
@tender dune kaboom eheehhehe
Yes, if you notice when you hit a wall or something. It sounds like a clay pot
The intro sequence references this idea
@jade brook let’s say, I didn’t pay attention 👀
Yes, if you notice when you hit a wall or something. It sounds like a clay pot
@tender dune nyess
intro is in pins if you need it
So I am clay :0
maybe
intro is in pins if you need it
@gray bridge Aaaa okok
Possible
Sound is more than half the experience
@lone hull flashbacks
the king's big eden fart (you have to have been here on that day to understand it)
Eden fart
We are a bit like candle holders (pun intended)
aw yeah, the fart of eden
Ahat did i missed
We are a bit like candle holders (pun intended)
@jade brook nice one
Enter the fart of eden, travel in groups
a person called the eden diamond explosion the big eden fart
that was me
yes that was you
Lokrkejejjjdjeje
are you proud
yes mother
Literal fart
Lol
For science
It’s getting late here, I shall go sneep sneep. Good day everyone ^^
For science
@jade brook nyes
Gnight sen
G’night
good night!
For science
@jade brook totally for science cough
Sank u guys 
fart
I accidentally rode one of those mantas
Lol
I've crashed into the whale in orbit so many times
One time I was trying to go through the flying bit before orbit and managed to get lost
I'm a krill AND whale magnet
UwU alternative
OwO
If u notice OwO looks like a face. O looks like an eye the W a cat mouth ( ω )
So basically ( O ω O )
It’s also a method for “cutesy” speech
I wanted to point out that they have a similarity with the bells in Japanese temples
Both needing a fire to heat them
Otherwise they don’t work
they sound like a gong
Yep
I wonder if there are any spinning bells irl
Possible
Edit: there is
Huh
And they look so similar to the game prayer bells
Type on google 'prayer spinning bells'
Cool
Even has inscriptions (most likely prayer inscriptions?) Around them
Yep
Yeah

Our bells have the mantas instead of some of the inscriptions too
Mantas vs mantras
Yup
So i guess it's some sort of prayer of light to call in the mantas
That makes the most sense

Indeed
I'll have lunch so ttyl, gonna read if there is something interesting
Okay ttyl
you cant rocket in eden cuz it doesnt allow you to open your friend's menu
i think someone actually got some high angle screenshots in stormlock from a piggyback rocket before -- the friend menu not opening thing might be if one of you are unlit
i noticed i couldn't tap on a friend to follow them while we were in the continuous rock rain section, but it was working earlier

i thought they were talking about orbit?
I'll still try rocket hipping tho
Anyone made a theory why we can swim in sea,lakes, puddle any body of water.. Except for forest n wasteland stages. (I know its the stage but who knows)
I'm pretty sure you can swim in forest, it's the rain that hurts you
Yeah you can swim in forest
Still hurt XD. When u obb underground.
I always thought the crystal are some type of mineral like salt.. It goes eventually come in contact with water n then evaporates into the air then forming cloud then rains..
oob water in wasteland doesnt hurt when youre moving but since it's oob, i dont think we can count that in lore
On wasteland the water is either toxic or water that got contaminated from darkstone.
You notice the pipe? Yeah that come from eden if I'm not mistaken.
Eden is the castle right? Or is the wasteland?
yes eden's the area with the floating disneyland castle above it
anyone know where lost and found plays?? is it the part after you die with the child you have to hug?
You notice the pipe? Yeah that come from eden if I'm not mistaken.
@mild lark im guessing its also because whatever factory in wasteland got destroyed and spilled the contaminants into the once pretty land
Lost and found??
from the soundtrack
Oh
i wasn’t sure where to ask but i saw most people talking about the soundtrack in this channel lol
Yeah they do sometimes to find any lore in the title or music xD
@tender dune just like the ark.. gw was once a pretty place
Anyone have a short summary of what I missed?
Uhh hmm let me try..
• Manta mantra bells are found irl called tibetan spinning prayer bells. Interestingly also spin clockwise like the irl bells
• wondering where krills origin is
• talking again about wasteland being a pretty place before the kaboom and pipe contamination
• talking about why the crabs are hostile compared to the office crabs (also someone was saying they're like decor crabs)
• we're hybrids talk again
•why is the isle of dawn elder's mask is broken
• why our capes have no shadow
• eden is a big fart
• i need bricky to tell me what propaganda means
• I want to rocket hip in eden
edit: reika says there is poop in the game
We didn't continue talking about why the elder's mask is broken or krill origin. Everything else is basically repeated lore talk xD
I'd link the chat's but it doesn't work on phone

Dawn elder's mask is broken because forest mom lost her patience
Just a summary for @static spoke

You forgot Reika's nonsense.
There is poop in game.
We lack the details
But there is something the devs call poop and it is not in the office
jokes aside xD Do we know where they mentioned the poop at?
That should be a message link?
Bring you riiiiight to the start of the poop nonsense
😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
Reika be chucking us crackpot theory fuel 
To be fair it's exactly what I asked for but better
I asked for red herring theory juice
And there is no way to finish that that's not gross
Bruh, What did you think wasteland water is?
cough oil spill
Blood of creatures whos light has been harvested
Based on recent sighting of concept art
#lore-discussion-spoilers message more like recently living creatures
I think I got an idea of the poop i just dont have enough charge to explore
I mean.. everything is poop shaped if you think about it
But i doubt reika means that
eden is just big poopoo fart
Yeah they do sometimes to find any lore in the title or music xD
@tender dune the track "Exhale" gave me shivers. Perfect title for the Eye of Eden track T__T
(realizes that the convo is now all about poop 🤣)
names for the songs. would that be lore? 
Yeah i guess, because the song title can sometimes hint about the place they're being used at
yep 👀 possibly
the most noticeable tracks for me would be
the invention
before a fall
two heroes
an invitation
knowledge
for those who have come before
the current
the deep
lost and found
Not lore related but like. What's a Community Elder and Community Sheperd??
welcomee

I think shepards get the ability to bean and slowmode?
@tender dune #questions-and-help can help better
@short owl Nope, they're just the same people with an orange colour shepherding the sheep (us) 
Ohh, i thought feral meant in game sheperds and not these sheperds😂
sorry
Wait so they don't get bean privs? Aww.
hm...they have a new singer 
wdym?
im listening, and in the second track it sounds like a different person than usual singing
a much deeper voice
that's from beta so
oh it is ?
yeah, i think if the track has "launch edition" it's from beta
ohHhh
or at least before global release
Reika said “sanctuary is a gift” to us, from TGC, during covid season.
Which means.....
what is it, Cat ?
....That the Sanctuary crab section, where the big plant is, where we get treated like bowling pins by the crabs (
+
= 🎳 ) is TGC’s idea of a gift.....
Which means....
I don’t know what it means, but I want to know what Cat thinks the power diamond in Eden is
Propaganda !
is that image from concept art, or fan-made?
Peeople do seem to have a lot of fun with crab bombs, and the big plant is a lot of wax...
fan-made, Oz made it
i might recommend adding that it's fan-made somewhere on the image then, in case people get confused and start circulating it as official concept art
Peeople do seem to have a lot of fun with crab bombs, and the big plant is a lot of wax...
@short owl it’s like cake... you know it’s gonna make you fat but damn it if it isn’t worth it on your mind at the time
Wonder if it could become an emote...
Does the equation imply that the eye of Eden is a gateway to the Holy land
I think it implies that the eye of eden was an attempt to harness the holey land for power
Well, I have a question about Eden
Is these the Twin’s instruments?
i might recommend adding that it's fan-made somewhere on the image then, in case people get confused and start circulating it as official concept art
@orchid crypt I’m seriously flattered that you think my art could even try to pass for something someone could mistaken for “real concept art”
They might be. Do you think they are ?
they look like it
But one more thing, they appear in the Wasteland
They do, they’re weapons we think were used in the civil war
I can’t tell if they are twin’s crickets or choppers
u see, they are quite similar...
Well, the twins could have used them, but I don’t think every pair of swords are the twins’
Does the equation imply that the eye of Eden is a gateway to the Holy land
@sweet dirge >
I think it implies that the eye of eden was an attempt to harness the holey land for power
@short owl you are both correct!!
I don't think so. They are similar, but the sticks the twins have seem more like paddles than knives?
How do u get there 
It’s a Valley oob, rather fun
How do u get there
@sweet dirge oob
I only know the night one 😔
It's an easy oob. One of the valley windows is not closed all the way.
i wonder why they appeared in eden
It helps to have a friend to warp to though, cause after a time they wind up high in the air
complete the cutscene then go to the furthest back window on your right, jump through and flap on over to the top-right
I don't think so. They are similar, but the sticks the twins have seem more like paddles than knives?
@short owl I’m going to second Null’s (and many other’s) theory if the “paddles”...
I see
the current twins have paddles. But I wouldn’t be surprised if during the war they used those swords
It would seem that “the games” or the “sky olympics” were created “in honor of” the victory of the king (concept art storyline) and thus the paddles simply represent the use of those flat swords but aren’t truly deadly weapons

what are you confused about, Johnny ?
I only know the night one 😔
@sweet dirge go before the same way (window) but go BEFORE the race starts
Well, this pair of sticks just displayed in the small temple of Eden, i guess if it was a instrument museum before the epic battle
Ooo 
Eden built after during wasteland. So it’s reasonable the common weapon used in prairie/forest/valley would be in both Eden and wasteland
after during ?
Okay i understand
After or during

Sorry it’s morning coffee half eyes open time here in Ozzie world
Cat never told us what they thought the eden diamond was....
@lethal stump recently promoted to wall....where is Cat?
Lol I was just thinking the same thing
Dont @ me if im hère, please
Is that what Reika meant by not @limpid silo her?
Gêneral pinging etiquette is:
- Don’t ping in one-on-one
- Don’t cold ping unless they have specified they’re okay with it
- Ping when you’re replying to a comment that has been otherwise buried by other things, and you’re quoting it
If I say something and you immediately reply, theres no need for a ping
also
- ping if someone has mysteriously vanished
- refrain from pinging devs even if they are in chat
yes, because I am online looking at chat right now and we’re the only ones active
(Wants to press the ping button so bad out of habit)
however, something like
I think I know what is that diamond in eden is now.
@lone hull are you going to follow up on this ?
is acceptable
Thank you Bricky-san
Just bricky
hh i dunno how i feel about that
Where is Cat? I feel I should drop a lore question to get the chat going
they dm’d me, so they are online
Do they feel comfortable to post their idea in the chat ? Or to have you repost it on their behalf ?
(Is a hungry hungry hippo, from the board game, with no white pellets to gobble, the pellets representing lore nuggets)

helo amio
I see you guys talked about swords... I guess someone already point out that there's a smol sword in graveyard ... which fits with normal ancestors
the elder songs are...
isle: Calling Across
prairie: Rousing Alight
forest: The Invention
valley: Shall We Play
wasteland: Two Heroes
vault: The Story Thus Far
im thinjing of what some of them may mean
Wasteland’s is interesting, « Two Heroes »
who’s the second, aside from the elder ?
is it us ?
I think the forest soundtrack does not need to be explained
isle is calling across i think
i have a doc of the tracks and their locations but idk if they're all correct
It could be. Tsadi a hero established, us a hero budding
I wanna add to the power diamond idea... (the #kingChernobylTheory)
🔹x2 + 🔸x2 = 💠
But... Aleph thought that
🔹> 🔷 +
= 💠
And he was wrong... it = ♦️ + 🌩️
Two heroes ... Interesting... Maybe the opposite side's leader of the gwl elder group?
i feel like it'd be us/the sky kids, in the sense that we're the ones going around trying to help everyone now
it could refer to the other military leader, but i don't really feel like the cutscene was really pointing towards that -- the only two characters that really had any attention drawn to them in the scene was the elder himself and us
yeah
Unless... the other didn't make it
however there are two clear factions in battlefield, it could be referencing that as well
A tale of two heros. One fell, the other left to remember
Maybe...
HELP I MAKE SADS AGAIN
i guess i would've been expecting some shots of the opposing sides' fallen weapons, if the "other hero" was meant to be the other side or another fallen combatant
understandable, spearmonkey
Dawn idle elder’s champion (I want his face to be broken at the battle of the gwl fortress)
the camera angles mostly just focused on the wasteland elder trying to take up a fighting pose and then collapsing, before we help him up
that would make the most sense
I have a question...
shoot
There’s a wasteland spirit who dies
Faint
When I played the game a year ago they didn’t have names. But now they have names. And I keep forgetting to check in home space for what his is...
« « « « « faints » » » » »
Is it faint?
Yes but I have a theory
i've always wondered how that spirit just takes it in good humour that our sky kid tries to befriend him by mimicking him falling over 
Does anyone have screenshots of how alllllll the ancestors spirits look?
If I remember correctly... and I think I have a hunch I’m right...
There’s one ancestor spirit, I think it’s faint, that has a special headdress

it’s « Fainting Warrior »
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