#lore-discussion-spoilers

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grim python
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so basically there was this whole fad that lasted like a month in this server

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it was called jelly babys

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I think it was ginsy who saw it in concept art, drew some hair on it, and then used it as their profile pic.

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Other people wanted it too, so soon they had drawn pretty much every hair on a jelly baby and everyone had it as their pfp

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wait I think I still have the one I used

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and that was pretty much it and everyone just forgot about it

lethal stump
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omg thats adorable

compact olive
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I’m linking my two previous theories as I think they sit well in the same line of reasoning.

grim python
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I think I found the original one

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we may be quiet but I know there is at least one jelly baby left.

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we will return.

tender dune
grim python
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anyone who laughs at us will be sacrifices for the jelly baby god

tender dune
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do it

compact olive
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Refresher: #KingChernobylTheory

grim python
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actually y’know what

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we will return

tender dune
normal berry
gray bridge
normal berry
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mhm yeah back to lore stuff

tender dune
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ye

normal berry
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oh hi res

gray bridge
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hi riri SkyTada

grim python
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I’m gonna save the link to my whole jelly baby history lesson so we can teach the new generation

compact olive
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Welcome back!

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So short re-explanation is that Aleph/king used dark stone on holy place of reincarnated light, to siphon all that juicy light energies. And caused the Eden storm. As well as the sKids originally being made of powerful light/soul energies imbued with dark stone child shaped statues

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I’m gonna add something, but I wanted to vet it with you experts first....

short owl
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That's one set of theory

compact olive
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That's one set of theory
@short owl pardon?

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My addition is this....

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What if....

short owl
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pls be crack theory please be crack theoryWhat if?

compact olive
short owl
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That's pretty likely

frail talon
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I thought it was canon it was their spirits...

normal berry
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I love your phos pfp pWow ^

frail talon
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me?

normal berry
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ye

compact olive
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The dark stone diamonds behind the spirits

frail talon
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:0

compact olive
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The “lanterns”

frail talon
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Ohh I thought you meant the spirits 😂

brittle gust
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I hope next season we got something to unlock in order to expand our theories

normal berry
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hhhh

short owl
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Oh, you're saying the lanterns hold the spirits

compact olive
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Ohh I thought you meant the spirits 😂
@frail talon I should have clarified lol my bad

normal berry
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it would be cool if we got a lantern cosmetic that does... something

brittle gust
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I want the butterflies

frail talon
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Maybe you could place it like table and it would be a free light source?

short owl
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I... Could see that being done as a way to protect souls who were ready to move on but couldn't or didn't want to... But what about spirits who didn't die near the vault?

frail talon
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Butterflies would be really OP lol

normal berry
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true

brittle gust
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Or they can turn the Firework staff to Flame staff that can light up our way

frail talon
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Dont firework staff already light stuff up pretty good?

brittle gust
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Temporary, yes

frail talon
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A bit inconvenient where you throw it, but its a p powerful light lol

normal berry
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or a separate flame staff

brittle gust
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Its blinding and confusing sometimes

frail talon
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true...

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Maybe one day from a season 😂

normal berry
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although they wouldnt be much different

frail talon
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Oh, maybe a temporary bright light that follows you for a bit?

short owl
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Maybe that's one of the reasons why cry is so sad - most souls get stored in lanterns and sent to the vault until it comes time to move on, but their friends were gone before the lantern came?

compact olive
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I... Could see that being done as a way to protect souls who were ready to move on but couldn't or didn't want to... But what about spirits who didn't die near the vault?
@short owl Well their spirits are still wondering the sky world because they weren’t “implanted” into the dark stone/shelf lanterns

frail talon
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@short owl Well their spirits are still wondering the sky world because they weren’t “implanted” into the dark stone/shelf lanterns
@compact olive But what about the spirits in vault? Left to watch over the lanterns or something?

compact olive
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Maybe the vault spirits you still see

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Lol I was just about to get to that lol

frail talon
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Lol maybe they ran out of shelf space

compact olive
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Maybe they were the ones who drew the shirt stick and had to stay behind to ensure everyone else got implanted while they maintained the the mechanism or processes not being able to go in themselves?

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Like ....someone had to stack the shelves right?

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And who better to do that than....

frail talon
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True... But the elders could maybe have done that?

compact olive
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The one who lifts lanterns with his/her mind and the one who is sad at the graves on bottom level

frail talon
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🤔 🤔

compact olive
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The elder in vault might have been able to do that, true.... maybe she was dead before the process was completed? Her mask is broken

frail talon
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But... why would everyone want to be in the lanterns in the first place? We know all the spirits are our ancestors so it seems like they're already dead in some way...

short owl
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The elders are in time out... That probably makes it difficult

frail talon
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😂 😂

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Damn, they stole too many lights

lethal stump
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what would be in the archives then ?

compact olive
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Dark Stone is blocking the reincarnation location. They’d be stuck like every other ancestor spirit in prarie and forest etc

short owl
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Maybe that's one of the reasons Vault is so sad. They wanted to make sure their people were cared for and ready to be summoned again but Megan said NOPE

compact olive
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what would be in the archives then ?
@lethal stump I’m not sure I understand the question fully

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But... why would everyone want to be in the lanterns in the first place? We know all the spirits are our ancestors so it seems like they're already dead in some way...
@frail talon maybe it’s like the cryogenic sleep version of soul preservation.

frail talon
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🤔

lethal stump
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well, the archives are off limits. there has to be a reason for that. i always assumed it was because they had sensitive information, but if we’re going by your theory, why would souls be off-limits ?

frail talon
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Since the spirits have stayed around to teach the skykids... They might be preserved like that so they can come back in spirit form to teach future generations

compact olive
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An ancestor soul/spirit in prarie is just one thing... whatever they did last or did most... maybe these lanterns preserve ALL of the soul?

frail talon
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🤔 🤔

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Wait wait, what if they chose specific memories they wanted to keep around? Like. Butterfly catcher might have wanted to teach skykids how to handle butterflies or something similar?

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it does seem, to me at least, that the spirits are around to teach skykids

compact olive
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Help me Lore fam...I can’t hold on to this theory without your strength! Arrgghhhhhhhh!!

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Me likey!

frail talon
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🤔 pThink

compact olive
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So you’re proposing that...

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Only helpful spirits were saved or only helpful ones were left behind?

frail talon
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No, maybe more Those who wanted to or those who felt they wanted to leave something behind?

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And if the lanterns really are ancestor souls, then considering they float in some places in vault, they probably wanted to stick around to help as well

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Not everyone would have something they wanted to share as a spirit I guess

compact olive
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Butterfly catcher Ancestor: “I’m ready to be placed back in Prairie”

Smaller butterfly catcher Ancestor: “but I caught butterflies too! I wanna be in prairie!”

Vault Ancestor: “put the little one in the fridge!”

Smaller butterfly catcher Ancestor: “No, No! Nooooooo!!”

frail talon
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😂 😂 😂

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Maybe they did rock paper scissors 😂

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Butterfly catcher, probably: BEST OF THREE rock paper scissors hand gesture

short owl
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Maybe there are more soul lanterns in each realm, but they're behind the scenes unlike in vault, which acts as a warehouse

frail talon
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👀

short owl
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The spirits who are still wandering around are the ones who died last, and could not be preserved

frail talon
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Maybe they could take them out of the lanterns and leave them at their laces?

rare field
frail talon
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*places oops

short owl
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The lanterns we never get to see because they are hidden simply never had the opportunity to be sent to the vault, where they can be summoned again when needed

frail talon
lethal stump
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well, the archives are off limits. there has to be a reason for that. i always assumed it was because they had sensitive information, but if we’re going by your theory, why would souls be off-limits ?
is anyone gonna address this ?

frail talon
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Oh! Maybe it was to keep them absolutely super duper safe 😂

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It could be they wanted some to be off limits for a worst case scenario?

compact olive
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is anyone gonna address this ?
@lethal stump first time I’m hearing of it so I can’t /shouldn’t

frail talon
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Idk what the archives are lol but that's just a theory-

short owl
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I mean... You don't let messy kids handle the frail but still living old people until you know they're knowledgable enough not to break anyone

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Think expensive vase but x94728648

frail talon
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What if they got it so the elders wouldn't break them... Considering how Valley elders treat light they might not be as careful with lanterns lol

short owl
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That too

frail talon
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Maybe Valley elders ARE the messy skykids who cant touch the lanterns

short owl
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Vault staff probably get several lectures and training so as to ensure they NEVER drop a lantern, and to ensure they know how to rescue someone from a damaged lantern

compact olive
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(O_O) could the enchantment vault ancestors have been looking for a new (safer) place to start over and then transport the souls there for ....like a pseudo reincarnation ?

short owl
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And you have to take a test that shows you can hold it telekenetically for a period of time, learn how to put it down and pick it up correctly, how to ensure that the spirit is summoned with clothes on...

lethal stump
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wait if this is the case, why do the scrolls do spells ?

frail talon
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For people that suck at magic without maybe?

compact olive
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What kinds of spells besides size spells are there?

frail talon
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fireworks, recharge,rainbow, etc

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glow spell!

short owl
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Plus sometimes you just want something ready madr

frail talon
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True true

short owl
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Not something you have to do the work for yourself

compact olive
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Maybe... the growth, glow and recharge spells were combined to rejuvenate the spirit back from a genie in the lamp (itty bitty living space) back to a fully grown spirit.... and the rainbow spell was to... give them...back....their preferred sexual identity? I have no clue... oh! And the fire works spells were used to celebrate them coming back from the lantern cryogenic soul sleep

frail talon
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Could be the spells were made to help spirits explore dangerous areas like Wasteland? Considering Ark people were probably doing just that, and they were proficient in magic, they might have used glow/recharge spells to help them survive

compact olive
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I like that theory much better

frail talon
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Also rainbow and fireworks spells were just for funky times 😎

compact olive
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Okay digging waaaay deep into edge of crackpot theory territory

frail talon
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😂

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Fr tho, firework spell might have come before the staff? Like before they knew how to put it into objects

compact olive
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Maybe the lanterns were to preserve the essence of the spirit so they could implant the spirit/soul/ light of an ancestor into .....a stone body...

Basically the precursor process to making sKids...

They were trying to play God/megabird....?

frail talon
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And after the staff, it could have maybe been used as a practise spell/to teach the concept of putting magic into objects

compact olive
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Basically their (vault scholars) own version of reincarnation?

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Check this out...

frail talon
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could be

compact olive
frail talon
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👁️

compact olive
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Look what they’re doing with those lanterns...

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We already physically see that they knew how to preserve the souls/spirit of the mantas

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In vault

frail talon
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True

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Maybe the manta spirits were the first step to them trying to preserve themselves?

compact olive
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Bingo bango!

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That’s why the manta makes those moaning sounds.

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It’s like “whyyyyyy, just let me die please!!”

frail talon
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😂 poor babies

compact olive
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We free them, I mean at the end we free them so they’re alright now. Lol

sly kestrel
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In the concepts, they are projectors that use visual memories for holding knowledge
They aren’t actually trapping spirits in them, the spirits are free

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I’m pretty sure it wasn’t intended for the current game as well

compact olive
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(No mantas were hurt in the process of crafting this theory)

frail talon
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We're not saying theyre trapped either lol

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more willfully put in there to preserve their memories

compact olive
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In the concepts, they are projectors that use visual memories for holding knowledge
They aren’t actually trapping spirits in them, the spirits are free
@sly kestrel I can see that in the original concepts but... you can touch/interact with the mantas

sly kestrel
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And the ascent to vault, it’s supposed to be a way to teach skykids about the history of the world before entering eden, and it’s been hinted many times for it to be a dreamlike experience, not everything there is real
But that vault did hold knowledge and it was held with memories

paper matrix
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hey yall im finally finishing up a google doc with all the information we have about the elders' names

compact olive
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That’s some super sophisticated high tech projector technology

sly kestrel
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I mean the elders names aren’t exactly canon but wow that’s a lot of words

paper matrix
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pWow ive been asked a lot to do this jdskfhksfd

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plus hebrew name analysis bc their old names actually determined a lot about their character

sly kestrel
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It’s ok it’s okay, ur free pWow

compact olive
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@paper matrix did you just hold the button down on each letter of the names like Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeeppppppppppphhhhhhhhhh till it reached 13 pages?

frail talon
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Maybe theres pics lol

paper matrix
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pWow I wish I did

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yeah theres a lotta concept pics

sly kestrel
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Another thing, the spirits weren’t always spirits so they had no reason to preserve themselves in their spirit form
They were alive and physical once

paper matrix
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this has taken two days and ive accidentally learned the hebrew alphabet

frail talon
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could be spirit form is the only way they could preserve themself tho

sly kestrel
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They died a long time ago

compact olive
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Another thing, the spirits weren’t always spirits so they had no reason to preserve themselves in their spirit form
They were alive and physical once
@sly kestrel yeah but if you’re trying to become immortal reincarnated without motherbird maybe that’s where the preserving of the spirit would be needed ?

sly kestrel
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Their spirit stays for unknown reasons but I don’t think it necessarily means they were always spirits and somehow kept their spirit form

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Cuz that’s a new theory

short owl
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This... Could suggest a complete other possibility that may work relatively well with Light Awaits story

sly kestrel
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The images in time that we relieve
Those are memories of that certain spirit, the only time the spirit comes to visit you is when ur buying a cosmetic

short owl
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Maybe we are a living lantern

sly kestrel
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??

tender dune
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what i miss?

frail talon
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I mean considering they're our ancestors they've obviously been skykids at some point...

sly kestrel
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Where’d light awaits come from, that’s......the old pre launch version of sky

short owl
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When we begin our journey, we pick up what remains of spirits, and can summon bits of their memories at will

frail talon
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srry I'm slow I'm leading a candle run at the same time-

short owl
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Namely the bits that allow us to express ourselves

sly kestrel
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But I’m confused where sky light awaits relates to what ur saying

short owl
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Headstones may allow us to access the memory of the spirit more directly, but the memories get stored in us rather than stay fading in the world

sly kestrel
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Technically....we can access them in the constellation table as wel

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And the headstones don’t activate the memory

frail talon
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constellation table might be mor leaning on our memories of them tho

short owl
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Ligbt awaits ties in because of the whole "light of the ancestors" and the fact that you did used to get your emotes to the end of eden to stabalize them

sly kestrel
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The whole “memory” thing is jus the lil activity that u do when u light up a spirit
But that doesn’t mean the spirit is called a memory

tender dune
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Sorry for the sudden intrusion

sly kestrel
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Think of it like this
They are dead but their spirit lives on, it’s still a mystery why some spirits stay on the world, but we are able to see a portion of their life

short owl
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No, but spirits have memories that we can access

compact olive
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But look at them... they’re gross lightless stone/ash thingies with “krill/sKid dying in Eden” particles

tender dune
short owl
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Once we do we are able to cary that spirit and use the memories they have to do stuff

sly kestrel
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U have an interesting view

compact olive
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So like a big game of Pokémon ?

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But with skilled soul spirits ?

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I choose you “hug emote”!! (Hugs friend to avoid Krill)

sly kestrel
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I mean considering they're our ancestors they've obviously been skykids at some point...
@frail talon technically, ancestors were jus a nickname we got from the concepts, but in the current game we have no idea what their race is, so we jus decided to call them ancestors. Someone prove me if I’m wrong but I don’t think the devs has said anywhere that they are ancestors

frail talon
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Doesn't it call them ancestors at the start of the game???

sly kestrel
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But it has been confirmed that they were living people before
And not always a spirit

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No

short owl
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I think they are confirmed different species

frail talon
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Iirc it straight says like "lead your ancestors" or sth but I might be wrong??

sly kestrel
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Huh

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U mean the intro?

frail talon
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I don't remember exactly, it's been a while, but I'm pretty sure it says ancestor on like your first spirit

sly kestrel
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But darkness came, and the stars fell...
Together, the fallen stars made a new home in the clouds.
If only they had listened...
A long time has passed. Now, I call to you. 
Wake up, child.  Bring our lost stars home.```
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This is the intro

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Oh the first spirit

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Actually I don’t remember

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I don’t think they said ancestor before at all but I shall check again

tender dune
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i guess they died and couldnt reincarnate so they were stuck doing what they did before the kaboom

frail talon
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Well, I started playing when they released on android, so they might have added it at a later date?

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Or I'm remembering wrong but I'm p damn sure t calls them ancestors

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dont they call them ancestor spirts somewhere else tho?

sly kestrel
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yeah, the concepts

frail talon
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Nono I mean in-game,,,

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I think it's in one of those lttle tutorial windows when you press the lil ?

tender dune
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lemme find it

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it does say ancestors

frail talon
tender dune
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xD

frail talon
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I knew I wasn't crazy!

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But then.. They are confirmed ancestors

tender dune
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@sly kestrel here u go buddy ^

frail talon
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I'm still like 60% sure it calls them ancestors at the first spirit too...

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It's like "something something Ancestor's memories"?

tender dune
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im pretty sure they're all our ancestors lol

frail talon
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😂 That's what I've been trynna say to Jay lol

tender dune
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because im guessing we're made after they yeeted

frail talon
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Yep yep

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Idk how skykids are made but it might be the birds and the bees

tender dune
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we're hybrids

frail talon
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Or... birds and the butterflies..?

tender dune
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half from the connected and half indifferent

frail talon
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ohh thats pretty interesting!

tender dune
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connected are the shiny winged light kids, indifferent we've never seen them but like, the prince concept looked like an indifferent

frail talon
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I've never seen the prince tho oops-

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Today is my first time actually thinking abt sky lore tbh-

tender dune
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and he's the only one who's the same size as us

frail talon
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👀

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You still got a pic of him?

tender dune
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oo welcome to lore xD i hang around sometimes

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lemme find

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they're old pics so

frail talon
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😂 I heard there was a lore channel here from another server and I wanted to see

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Show 👁️

tender dune
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prince is on the rightmost

frail talon
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Pff he's tiny!!

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Any idea what his story is..?

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Oh shoot I've got dinner but.. I'll try and keep an eye out here-

tender dune
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no i dunno his story

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my theory is he made us to try to stop/save the king after the corruption and kaboom

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other than that i dunno

paper matrix
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ITS DOOOOONE

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THE DOCUMENT

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pCry PHEWWWW

tender dune
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Omg

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CONGRATS

paper matrix
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pWow👉👈💖💖💖💖

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thank you!!

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would this be pinnable material?

last cargo
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That’s like... so awesome

paper matrix
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pAww💖💖💖UAA

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THANK YOUUU

tender dune
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Yes

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Oh ye i took pics of forest elder hair this time, they are 9pEyes

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Sorry for not taking an in-game screenshot. Afraid of the game crashing if i did thatpCry

frail talon
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adgjhgs Gonna read the entire elder names document thank you for putting time and effort into it pSkyHeart

lethal stump
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someone on the doc rn has a pfp of Tsadi and i love it, whoever you are

frail talon
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Looking at the Tom Zhao stuff rn..... The wings had such cool designs!!!

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They were also a bit more birdlike, kinda like parts of the fandom likes to do when drawing skykids

static spoke
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And then the manta cape could have been longer

frail talon
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Yes ;^;

heady sinew
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While I do love the bird cape, I think it was changed because of optimizing, imagine rendering all that pretty tail.

frail talon
normal berry
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I'm working on my prince redesign rn and all these old concepts are wonderful sources of inspiration

frail talon
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Ikik, the old beta capes also had funky designs but they changes that

normal berry
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because all of our phones would have blown up like the eden diamond

heady sinew
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That doesn't stop us from making fanart though pEyes we can always draw those capes

normal berry
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the old black cape was gorgeous though pCry like a black gemstone

heady sinew
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Also sitting here waiting for the next Bell Quest just to see the next stage of the Manta Growth Cycle stickerCold

normal berry
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maybe they could bring back the old designs for the more expensive capes (white and black)

static spoke
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Or for an ultimate gift

frail talon
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It would be really cool if we had mroe cape shapes in general... There's obvi some variation, but iirc the biggest aversions are from a few old seasonal capes and now manta cape...

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Butterfly cape too,,, but most of the different capes arent accessible to new players 😊

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*: ")

mortal viper
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hello everyone!

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@lethal stump , what doc are you reading?

lethal stump
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the Elder Names doc

mortal viper
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is it pinned?

normal berry
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Scroll up a little and you'll find it

mortal viper
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thank u both stickerHeart

lethal stump
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no prob

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thank grandpa

normal berry
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Np stickerHeart

paper matrix
lethal stump
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can i dm you, Grandpa ?

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it’s about the elder names doc

paper matrix
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Glad youre reading through!

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sure!

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Oh and bricky!!

lethal stump
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yes ?

paper matrix
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The tsadi pfp is me

lethal stump
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fabulous

short owl
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How would those capes even work when grounded tho?

frail talon
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Maybe they'd be kinda floaty

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Ohh maybe like the scarves in Journey!!

sly kestrel
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A scarf like the one in journey would look pretty cool actually

frail talon
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True... I want five 🙂

sly kestrel
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Brb

short owl
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As someone without a journey compatible system, may I get a reference?

sly kestrel
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Wdym?

short owl
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I have not seen scarves in Journey

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So I know not what you refer to

sly kestrel
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Ooooh
It’s a bit off topic so can I have permission to dm you?

short owl
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Sure

sly kestrel
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In the mean time
Talk about lore everyone SkyTada

frail talon
sly kestrel
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Oh yeah

short owl
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Even better

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As for lore... I've been trying to think of stuff but am pretty unsuccessful. Unless anyone wants to help figure out what cakes the elders are

frail talon
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😂

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One of them has to be a chocolate cake, srry I don't make the rules

short owl
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(Lamed is covered in fondant. Samekh looks covered in fondant but it's actually a really yummy icing)

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Aiyn is probably chocolate lava cake

frail talon
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stickerHeart The most delicious of cakes

short owl
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Would Teth be a fruitcake?

frail talon
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Maybe?

tender dune
compact olive
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Has anyone deciphered what this castle looking thing is in wasteland graveyard ?

tender dune
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Does it look like i enjoy fruit cakes?

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Hmm not really

short owl
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Not enjoy

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Are

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Also I thought the castle thing was more bones

tender dune
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Also I thought the castle thing was more bones
@short owl same

mortal viper
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no, they are stone

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considering there apears to be a fireplace in there, i would say it was a tower/buolding

compact olive
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They don’t look like bones, like the ones at the bottom. The on near the exit seems like a melted castle

short owl
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The one with the butterflies, right?

tender dune
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Ye

short owl
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That comes across as bones but I can take a look at it tonight

mortal viper
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there are bones stuck to it

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a hole ribcage actualy

compact olive
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Were they making towers out of bones?

mortal viper
#

doubt it

compact olive
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That doesn’t sound very technologically progressive

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Why are their bones sticking out of it?

mortal viper
#

i think the place is just scorched beyond recognition

tender dune
#

I think its after the destruction?

mortal viper
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because creaturea died there

tender dune
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Since the 'oil' spill is basically everywhere

mortal viper
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3 of them at least

short owl
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I mean... Use what you have. If you need a shelter, and you have bones.... You use the bones

mortal viper
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@tender dune what do you mean?

compact olive
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That’s not oil lol

mortal viper
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poluted water is oily

static spoke
compact olive
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Polluted with the regurgitated carcasses of the used up creatures of light muahahaha!!

static spoke
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Yes! Death and destruction!

compact olive
static spoke
tender dune
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@tender dune what do you mean?
@mortal viper i call it oil cuz it looks like it

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Im close to the building

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Brb

static spoke
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I like the idea of having pipes with liquid running out of them in the heart of the factory

mortal viper
compact olive
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I go through the wind tunnel in graveyard so I end up spit out by the wind tunnel just so that I’m laying down in the sludge....I pretend I’m bathing In it’s deliciousness-Es

short owl
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WELL THAT INFO WAS DARK

static spoke
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Oh well

compact olive
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Blue, that structure is wayyy too building like to not be a tower of some sort

short owl
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I read one of thr pictures above

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And O.o

compact olive
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The question is... there are no brick lines.... no tile....

mortal viper
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It is all burnt

compact olive
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Sorry @short owl

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But blue...

unborn sundial
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The structures in graveyard look like the ones in prairie (think butterfly spirit's orb) but dark

compact olive
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Why is the buildings closer to Eden....NOt burnt ?

mortal viper
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And some of the other buildings in Sky does not have brick lines or tiles

static spoke
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Yep

tender dune
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And the bone on top is probs ghe creature collapsing and decaying on it

unborn sundial
#

It's like the bones in forest combined with butterfly catcher's orb

lethal stump
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something must’ve crashed into it

mortal viper
#

?

tender dune
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((Also probs cuz the building will look too simple so they added the creature bones))

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Auto erased my words cuz i said something xD

compact olive
#

But the question is.... why is something so primitive located AFTER the technological power diamond processor ,...and before the pipe line fortress in wasteland ?

lethal stump
#

might’ve been there before they industrialized

compact olive
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But there isn’t t a single tree....why would they remove all trees and other sources of light but leave that primitive building in the center of their surrounding technology?

tender dune
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Yeah cuz the butterfly rock circle looks too simple if it was industrialised

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Wasteland wasn't always wasteland

mortal viper
#

Why are we assuming it is primitive?

tender dune
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As seen from forgotten ark

compact olive
#

That’s like building a power plant and a sky rise but leaving a TeePee in the center of the street

static spoke
tender dune
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Unless if they left it for the buttefly source?

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Cuz why would there be butterflies there

compact olive
#

Why are we assuming it is primitive?
@mortal viper it doesn’t seem like it’s advanced

mortal viper
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It is in ruins

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Like, really bad ruins

tender dune
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It is advanced, just in ruins

static spoke
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I think it was just a tower

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With butterflies in it

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And now a dead body rests on top of it

tender dune
lethal stump
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the butterflies might’ve escaped the crushing into light process

compact olive
#

So then if it was an advanced building like the rest of the wasteland structures... what happened to them?

static spoke
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Because they were hidden in the tower

tender dune
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The buttefly stone thing looks like the ones in praire. You think maybe wasteland had the same civilization as prairie but as they advanced they neglected the building and just kinda, left it there. But then the whole place got ruined

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Want me to explore anything in wasteland before I return home?

static spoke
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🤔

mortal viper
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Graveyard might have been some sort of stable for transport creatures (the turtle-snakes)

compact olive
#

Can you see if my theory is correct in wasteland ?

tender dune
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Which one?

compact olive
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That the wasteland map is a ruined version of hidden forest/valley

tender dune
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Oh

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Well i have some picks i took for art references

mortal viper
#

it is too ruined for that

short owl
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The butterflies look like they are escaping from a campfire pit

compact olive
#

That looks like the forest ending

short owl
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I suspect either they were placed there by survivors, or they formed from fire that was once there

tender dune
#

I suspect either they were placed there by survivors, or they formed from fire that was once there
@short owl it looks like the one at prarie nest let me go take a ss brb

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Oh wait i forgot where it was

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Was it praire?..

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I remember seeing a circle stone for butterflies somewhere

compact olive
#

Can you get a screenshot of a Krill’s red eye interacting with one of the sKids you’re dragging around...for ....research purposes

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Might be forest

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Second zone top shelf on the left ?

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Right not left

lethal stump
#

wrong chat...?

coarse ember
#

Oh

lethal stump
coarse ember
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Oops, sorry i didn’t realizestickerGloomy

tender dune
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Can you get a screenshot of a Krill’s red eye interacting with one of the sKids you’re dragging around...for ....research purposes
@compact olive I'd feel bad for them but im planning on riding krills by myself after pFIRE

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Hmm forest.. im omw then

compact olive
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Have to get back to work. Be back on my lunch break

tender dune
#

Im so lost trying to find the circle stone

static spoke
#

Where is this?

tender dune
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Forest

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Its near the other crabs

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In a tree

static spoke
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Hmmm Maybe the crabs didn’t want to live on the ground

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Yes

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It leads to nothing

tender dune
static spoke
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Just an empty room

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I’ve been in there before

tender dune
#

adds to tasklist

static spoke
tender dune
#

Day 428, still trying to find the butterfly pit

static spoke
lethal stump
#

what butterfly pit ?

tender dune
#

I feel like I've seen a buttefly pit (like the one from wasteland) in a different world

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But i can't find it

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The rock of circles

static spoke
#

🤔

analog sable
#

I finally gave up on reading all the new messages from last nightsqwarlockDed

tender dune
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I dont bother back readingstickerUmm

analog sable
#

It was all very interesting though, I'm pretty new to lore and the prince/King and the krills fascinate me

tender dune
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Oh i gotta switch games now, enough lore hunting (for now)

short owl
#

Are you talking about Bricks Headcannon?

neon marlin
#

Why are the crabs in sanctuary friendly? The darker ones i mean

analog sable
#

Why are the crabs in sanctuary friendly? The datker ones i mean
@neon marlin they finally got to go on a nice vacation :)

tender dune
neon marlin
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Honestly id believe that

tender dune
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See ya-ish

analog sable
#

Has the traveling spirits been talked about in relation to lore? Are they just the remainders of the Ancestors' kind?

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The one time i get on the chat just dies SkyLOL

static spoke
analog sable
short owl
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Maybe the crabs in tbe sun are nice because they aren't angry. Their home is doing well at the moment

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Plenty of light not being stolen, lots of water...

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Or they could be blind

analog sable
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Babey blind crabbos

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Maybe their screeches are echolocation

sly kestrel
#

Has the traveling spirits been talked about in relation to lore? Are they just the remainders of the Ancestors' kind?
@analog sable the traveler spirits are old seasonal spirits that were released long ago
Tgc jus wanted an opportunity to bring these spirits back for new players to buy their cosmetics

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Lore wise, I guess u could say these spirits have returned to see new batches of kids stickerHeart

analog sable
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Ah yeah, i know, I meant more in relation to lore

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Aww

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But are they the ancestors' kind? Since sky kids and ancestors are different (ancestors can't fly on their own, so far as I can discern)

#

Ah, very interesting

lethal stump
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i think Skye means species, not personality

analog sable
#

I think the general idea was that sky kids and ancestors are not the same "species" kinds thing

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Yup, thanks Bricky :>

static spoke
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I knew Brick was going to correct me

analog sable
#

Aw, you're all good

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I was vague with my wording haha

static spoke
#

Snap! I missed some very key words in Skye’s sentence

lethal stump
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Skids and Elders are two different species (as said by the devs), it’s assumed that Skids and Ancestors are a different species as well however that has not been confirmed

analog sable
#

Ohh

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I mixed up ancestors and elders, oopsie SkyLOL

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Skids and Elders are two different species (as said by the devs), it’s assumed that Skids and Ancestors are a different species as well however that has not been confirmed
@lethal stump are spirits the same species as the elders? Or are they something different altogether?

lethal stump
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Ancestors and Elders are two different species

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i think

compact olive
#

sKids could be made of.....
(<< ) ...... ( >>) .... dark Stone

analog sable
#

:O

static spoke
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But Skids aren’t dark

analog sable
#

I thought they were made of clay or something

lethal stump
#

our bodies are, Oliver

analog sable
#

Oh righr

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*right

compact olive
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But Skids aren’t dark
@static spoke I’m not sure I follow

static spoke
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They give off a glow

analog sable
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Except for our arms/legs

compact olive
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So does dark stone... when added with light

analog sable
#

And maskless has a very dark face

static spoke
#

Ö

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Stupid me

analog sable
#

Though I know little to nothing about dark stone in reality stickerGloomy

static spoke
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Dark stone/power diamond

compact olive
analog sable
#

Oooh

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And i guess that could explain the dark stone + energy = glowing

static spoke
#

Yes

tender dune
compact olive
#

I used that That concept art color pallet to make the in game final version of the sKid “in game” transition

tender dune
#

Nice

compact olive
#

The problem with that concept art is the dark version of the sKid has a chest light

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Which we don’t see in game

tender dune
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Yeh

compact olive
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It also still has hair

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And we all know that Krill and Eden rocks knock off the weave too

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(O_O) .....gasp

tender dune
#

Anyone have more prince pictures?

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I wanna compare the indifferent to the prince

compact olive
#

I have a theory

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A crackpot theory!!

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I need help!!

#

Who has the screenshot of the secret island in home oob ??

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(Rummaging through the screenshots)

tender dune
compact olive
#

I need the mural

tender dune
#

Oh

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Credits to jay again xD (pine found it)

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I wanna know how pine reached the island.. i wanna gostickerPlease

compact olive
#

Who’s ready for the crack pot theory?!

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I am

tender dune
#

Yes

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I'll read in between game pWow

compact olive
#

What if....

analog sable
#

NO WAY

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sorry SkyLOL haha

compact olive
#

Megabird and King are one and the same ....
Two sides to the same coin.
Megabird needs light. “With the stars united, out light was infinite “

There’s more... brb

short owl
#

DON'T TEASE ME LIKE THIS

compact olive
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What if the sole purpose of the descent to “Sky” was to harness darkness to make more light?!

#

I’ll explain...

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Participation is welcome

#

What...my friends do animals do to make more animals?

lethal stump
#

do you want specifics ?

compact olive
#

[blocked]
you are correct good sirs and madams!!
They do the mambo #5 and make babie animals

hushed steeple
#

special fun times

short owl
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Isn't there the catch of animals also needing to eat

compact olive
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Okay but.... animals breed normally... I mean naturally, and at a normal pace with nature

tender dune
#

So basically intensive farming? Like prairie?

compact olive
#

Yes, so how do you get more light if naturally natural animals in nature and naturally making babies and natural rate ?

lethal stump
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you breed animals artificially

compact olive
#

But... not farming animals... farming ancestors !

tender dune
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My brain hurts

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Too much 'natural'

compact olive
#

Breeding as Bricky put it

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You’d breed animals.

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And humans/ancestors breed faster

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Or can be made to breed more as seen in out human world and in wasteland/technological advanced location

#

The ancestors are in the constellation

#

Maybe that means they’re from those planetary systems

#

Brought to sky world by the elders (chosen by megabird/king) to expand the civilization to larger populations to have more souls to collect

#

More light

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Like a bee that brings pollen from one Flower to the next

short owl
#

So our job is to harvest?

lethal stump
#

are you saying that the elders farmed ancestors to turn into light ?

compact olive
#

So our job is to harvest?
@short owl bingo Bango! Love that triangle!

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One giant reaper type situation. Reaper of lights(souls) !

short owl
#

And what about the elders? Why do we have to work so hard to summon them?

compact olive
#

Star children come back and pick up the goodies like good little bees

#

That’s a goooood question Null... hmmm...

#

I need help...

short owl
#

I'm Null

compact olive
#

Null lol

lethal stump
#

im
confused

short owl
#

Hi confused.

compact olive
#

Go ahead Bricky, ask for clarification while I try to figure out Null’s question

lethal stump
#

i did

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you didn’t answer

compact olive
#

If anyone else has ideas please... INSERT

lethal stump
#

are you saying that the elders farmed ancestors to turn into light ?

short owl
#

are you saying that the elders farmed ancestors to turn into light ?
the answer to this is yes

compact olive
#

Oh yes, Bricky sorry, I gave it a “love heart kissy” which meant “yes, that’s what I’m proposing they did”

lethal stump
#

there’s reactions for OreoYes and OreoNo which are much clearer

compact olive
#

Ty

short owl
#

Okay, so let's just say for the sake of crack theories that this is true. The world is destroyed. Who lets their farm get into this state?!

#

Shouldn't it have been better taken care of?

lethal stump
#

isn’t everyone dead/outside of spacetime...?

compact olive
#

“Darkness came...” I think this is a vague way of saying the harvesters tried a “new” way of working but it strayed from the old way and caused the farm to rot

short owl
#

THAT'S ANOTHER THING. Why are there no more ancestors running around?

lethal stump
#

the storm probably killed them in one way or another

sinful gull
#

Hundreds of years had passed I believe

compact olive
#

They have to be brought back to the Megabird for reincarnation

sinful gull
#

Yeah

compact olive
#

Because they couldn’t be brought back they couldn’t repopulate

#

Once you harvest their souls back to motherbird the process will restart

#

Baby jellies and all

#

The sky kids make it possible for the mambo #5 to continue to allow more jelly babies to make more light to feed motherbird

lethal stump
#

but...thé ancestors are dead, how do they mambo if they’re dead

compact olive
#

Reincarnation

lethal stump
#

how do we know they reincarnate
or are we presupposing they do

compact olive
#

Well based off of the concept art megabird slurps up the souls and spits them back out. And then in game we see the ancestors following sKids to orbit

lethal stump
#

yeah but in-game everything is still dead

tender dune
#

He doesnt spit the spirits out. He spits more of embers and dark stones (rubbish)

#

Lemme try to find my theory thingy

azure onyx
#

A child

short owl
#

I feel like there's still a real issue here. Reincarnation doesn't make bodies

#

Unless... We're also supposed to solve that?

compact olive
#

Unless... We're also supposed to solve that?
@short owl crap...

tender dune
#

I cant copy link from phone

cold steppe
#

in some ways, we're not being reincarnated like the standard reincarnation

short owl
#

We're not just busy bees, but the next crop???

cold steppe
#

if it's anything like the concept art, we are reborn through the megabird

compact olive
cold steppe
#

my thought is that the megabird kind of just keeps reviving us

#

is that the pity star room?

#

and we aren't reborn until we go through the portal in Eden

#

I like to think of the dark room as a sort of limbo

tender dune
#

Sry for screenshot

cold steppe
#

on mobile, press and hold on the message until the copy message link option in the menu shows up

#

there should also be an option to copy message

tender dune
#

Will try

lethal stump
#

also to copy message link

cold steppe
#

I started with that, brick

lethal stump
#

oh
i cant read

tender dune
lethal stump
cold steppe
tender dune
#

Just type in the search button from: ginkomimi ember

compact olive
#

is that the pity star room?
@cold steppe this is home space

cold steppe
#

is that when you're trying to go capeless?

#

when I say pity star, I don't mean after Eden. I mean when you lose all winged light + buffs it tries to force you to take a winged light

compact olive
#

I don’t wanna spam but I’ll post whole time line

azure onyx
#

Thinking of how childlike the skykids are, so focused on others when their whole life purpose is eden
So I say the fainting spirit straight up died, but the skykids had no concept of true death, and mimicked it as they do other spirits

compact olive
#

It’s right at home circle stone in Front of the dawn, prairie, forest valley vault portals

#

This is after you go through white portal in orbit and go far away from that beautiful clear picture you have of mega bird

#

I’m not sure if this makes sense @cold steppe wren but it’s in order in my diagram in #1

cold steppe
#

You mean after the credits?

#

So don’t skip the credits?

#

I’ve never seen it there before. I usually see that room right after dying and when going capeless

#

I’ll have to watch the credits next time

lethal stump
#

im can go die today if y’all want

cold steppe
#

Oh wait, is that after your first time going through?

compact olive
#

Bricky! You have friends here that love you! Listen to reason Bricky !

lethal stump
#

reason says fly into big shiny orb

cold steppe
#

bricky you said something accidentally that sounds so, so wrong

#

Oz, did you take that after your first time in Eden? Or recently?

tender dune
#

I've seen those pics

compact olive
#

It should be always wren

cold steppe
#

InterestingpEyes

woven perch
#

that didnt happen when i went to eden last week

#

the pity star looking part

cold steppe
#

I kind of want to try it but also I would need to lose 120+ winged light

#

Then recollect 120+ winged light

woven perch
#

i think it might happen your first rebirth, but not the ones after

compact olive
#

All for the sake of scientific study!

cold steppe
#

Maybe after reset

#

Then I can go capeless (finally)

lethal stump
#
  • wracks brain for my first rebirth *
cold steppe
#

I was first reborn in October

#

It’s been a while

lethal stump
#

if i remember correctly, it was just camdle

short owl
#

Kinda wish we had like... Some way to fake it as our first time. Maybe ab amulate of moff which makes all things doable like for the first time

cold steppe
#

I wouldn’t think that you would see the pity star if you had bought buffs though

#

As you go into the portal with a cape

#

join beta

lethal stump
#

ah that might be it

short owl
#

I would consider it but tbh I can't handle knowing spoils

cold steppe
#

Also, you can watch some walkthroughs or live vicariously through an irl friend playing for the first time

lethal stump
#

gonna make my parents try sky

cold steppe
#

Ooh ideas for wishlist

#

A setting where you can have a separate moth account solely for moth-like exploration

#

I miss the feature where you could relive collected spirits whenever you wanted

compact olive
#

I tried to get my daughter to play and she was “too cool” for the game...so I’m currently looking into voluntary adoption

cold steppe
#

Anyway, field trip in 3 days!

short owl
#

@compact olive send her... The Trillogy

sinful anvil
#

i was thinking about the time loop theory & theres smth i dont get.

the narrator says “find them and bring them home” which means we have a task to fulfill. unless the task is naturally cyclical in itself, what is the point in going through all the trouble in eden only to be rebirthed and do the same thing again as a punishment? (if we are the prince who need to atone the sins)

compact olive
#

To Eden ? Wren?

cold steppe
#

Pretty sure I went last Sunday so I’ll wait for reset

#

That’s a good point, palechild

#

Though I think the theory was also having the narrator (possibly megabird) be unreliable

short owl
#

@sinful anvil it gives you, the prison, a task which doesn't require access to the prince's memories. No task, no direction, no momentum. It also provides a set of expectations and a role.

lethal stump
#

time loop doesn’t require unreliable narrator

cold steppe
#

Interesting

lethal stump
#

Null said it best

sinful anvil
#

maybe its bc im a mere mortal with mortal feeble understanding, but it baffles me that the task of finding people and taking them to where they are supposed to be could be perpetual

cold steppe
#

Yeah, that’s also where I’m confused

short owl
#

It could also be a narrator who isn't aware of the timeloop at that point

sinful anvil
#

unless there are many people to be brought home, but that’s just many not infinite

cold steppe
#

If you’re ambitious, you could save all the spirits in one run

sinful anvil
#

so im kinda against that we are born to take some fallen’s place. no we are instructed to bring smth home & tho that needs sacrifice, imo sacrifice isnt the main thing

lethal stump
#

the people referenced in the intro are specifically the stars/elders
sure we can bring them to orbit and see them there, but we can also see them still in time out
they can’t truly leave and neither can we

runic shell
#

hello! 🙂 what's the current topic? lol I'm too lazy to backtrack and read

lethal stump
#

time loop theory

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aka: i’m trying to work game mechs into lore

runic shell
#

@lethal stump ok, thx!

compact olive
#

(O_O).... gasp
what if he prison time loop is meta and meant to force us as players to relive the experience of this sKid until we finally crack the story....

sinful anvil
#

all in all something tells me we arent made to cycle through stuffs. we have something to fulfill.

#

this game is perfect cuz it doesnt have an end technically

lethal stump
#

it doesn’t end, it repeats, that’s why i think it’s a time loop of sorts

cold steppe
#

in some ways, our purpose after returning the spirits is to make ourselves stronger

compact olive
#

Oh my goodness oh my goodness... we are stuck... we are the ones stuck in the prison of loops

lethal stump
#

yes
that’s what i’ve been saying, Oz

#

wait do you mean lore chat ?

cold steppe
#

I'm also curious about the role of the child/children of light (and if we can find out if it's singular or plural)

#

canonically, we're connected to the child/children of light

#

that was confirmed by the devs

lethal stump
#

bc we are them by proxy

sinful anvil
#

“bring them home” makes me think of a story that is supposed to end at some point, bc ive been trained to think that from prev media

cold steppe
#

and we collect the winged light (the imprints) to make ourselves stronger

compact olive
#

“Harvest” @cold steppe

cold steppe
#

I don't like that

compact olive
#

Lol

cold steppe
#

you're not wrong, it's just... uncomfortable

sinful anvil
#

yeh sounds lowkey dehumanizing
imo. but ur not wrong

compact olive
#

I say “Eating the lifeless corpses of the unborn” you say eating “eggs for breakfast”

cold steppe
#

we are starting to get into inappropriate territory

#

family-friendly server

sinful anvil
#

i mean we’re made of darkstones. were not angels

#

so yeh monch monch

compact olive
#

(Dials it back a bit)

short owl
#

You say that like our convo isn't 80% involving death

cold steppe
#

death is one thing. eating is another thing

#

but we're now a bit off topic

compact olive
#

Wait...

lethal stump
#

wasteland temple is a circular room in a rectangle building

short owl
#

So breakfast is off limits but constantly running into a fatal storm is acceptable. Got it.

compact olive
#

In this prison time loop theory...

cold steppe
#

what do you mean by a circular room?

lethal stump
#

it’s a circle floorplan

compact olive
#

Are you able to do things differently ? Like we do now?

cold steppe
#

it seems like you can't change your fate

short owl
#

Hmm... You know, I don't think I've explored the pity star room enough

cold steppe
#

and collecting and ascending spirits is permanent

compact olive
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But...can slight things be changed... like... getting hit by less krill your 2nd or third time around ....

cold steppe
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well, yeah

compact olive
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What if the point of the prison is to perfect the harve....collection of light ?

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Like eternal boot camp

cold steppe
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part of me wants to think that TGC had a plan for players after multiple times in Eden, but the game in general has an endless collection feel to it

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part of the open world concept perhaps? They wanted to give more freedom to the players?

compact olive
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By trapping them, into a circular reincarnation game...

cold steppe
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the cynical part of me sometimes thinks that TGC didn't actually plan out all the details that we're theorizing about

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and we're making things up out of nothing

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but it's also really fun

sinful anvil
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well what happens in gameplay after you’re reborn, post credits? do you still end up to b skykid and get through the realms?

compact olive
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Wait Bricky ! You said there’s a circle room in a square building !

short owl
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We do know there is a thing coming when you get all elders

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But that thing is not yet implemented

sly kestrel
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I come back and u guys are talking about eating kids? 😦

cold steppe
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that's exactly what I said

short owl
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Maybe when you get all the elders, you can break the ground mirror with stomp, freeing you and the light baby

compact olive
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Well the light is in the sKids stomach, where do you think the child of light star child’s go? (In muh belly nom nom nom)

sly kestrel
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wha.... wdym get all the elders
Our job wasn’t to snatch em, it was to save em

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Using this SkyCandleLighting

compact olive
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Maybe when you get all the elders, you can break the ground mirror with stomp, freeing you and the light baby
@short owl could you imagine there’s a game mechanic like this?

lethal stump
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elder pokeman
gotta catch em all

sly kestrel
cold steppe
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I was following until the last 3 words

short owl
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I do not understand your question Oz

cold steppe
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actually I'm confused by ground mirror too

sly kestrel
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I don’t....understand any of ur concepts

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But this is theory time so I think I should go..

short owl
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When you Eden, there's a reflection of you and the light child

compact olive
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Bricky what if the circle room in the box room is a physical metaphor of how the game gets truly unlocked? We are reincarnated and go in circles but (like the square box beneath the circular building in vault oob... that leads us to the elders oob) maybe we need to somehow get out of the cycle to finish the story?!

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Who’s down to oob with me ?!

cold steppe
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I'm pretty sure someone would have found that by now

lethal stump
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more grounded convo starter. Does this look like a tomb/grave ?

sly kestrel
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There’s no point....we already did finish the story

compact olive
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But no one in this room has successfully oob eye of Eden or storm lock or danger zone 3 or whatever you call it

cold steppe
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I still don't see the circle floor plan

lethal stump
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don’t worry about that wren

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im talking about the raised platform

cold steppe
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ah

sly kestrel
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If anything it looks like a ritual circle

compact olive
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But maybe we didn’t Jay, maybe were locked in that prison loop until we do?

sly kestrel
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Candles and everything

cold steppe
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kind of looks like an altar

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very uncomfortable one

sly kestrel
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....what else would our mission be? SkyLOL

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We alr completed it
Now we jus hang with friends, replay experiences, save other spirits and other stuff

compact olive
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Tomb!

sly kestrel
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But overall, we don’t have much of a quest anymore

compact olive
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Reasons....

cold steppe
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if it's a tomb, it's pretty small for an elder

sly kestrel
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Especially wasteland elder

short owl
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... Maybe there's less left than we realize

cold steppe
lethal stump
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wasteland is the tallest

compact olive
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Tomb
Reasons....

Alter usually faces the statue... this one has its back to the “alter”
The warrior was in concept art supposed to sacrifice himself

sly kestrel
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Why is ur screenshot kinda....stretchy

cold steppe
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elder would have to be folded up

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what do you mean, Jay

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oh, both times the camera was moving

sly kestrel
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It looks like it’s been stretched

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Ooooooh

cold steppe
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sorry

compact olive
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if it's a tomb, it's pretty small for an elder
@cold steppe maybe they... folded him?

cold steppe
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I just mashed the camera button at some points

short owl
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I was thinking less folded... More collected all pieces that could be found

cold steppe
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that's also assuming the elders had physical bodies

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that were buried

sly kestrel
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Well, let’s say the elder DID die
It’s not rlly impossible to burry him there, cremation is a thing
Either that or they gathered his bones and jus put it there

cold steppe
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and, more specifically, were buried there

sly kestrel
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But this is IF he rlly did die
Nothing indicates he did, we are saving him and returning him home after all

lethal stump
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home to where dead things go, orbit

sly kestrel
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Elders aren’t spirits

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And the elders had a home up there to begin with, doesn’t mean they were dead from the beginning

lethal stump
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ooo

sly kestrel
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Luca, join us pWow

compact olive
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What’s on the tomb/shrine? Megabird ?

sly kestrel
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no

cold dock
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im fine with lurking lol

sly kestrel
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I like ur pfp

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🐦

cold dock
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thanks hehe

lethal stump
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wdym « what’s on the tomb/shrine »
where are you looking

compact olive
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What’s the drawing on the alter/tomb ?

lethal stump
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there isn’t one

compact olive
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Are you sure?

sly kestrel
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It’s jus some circles

compact olive
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I see an image

sly kestrel
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And shapes

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Maybe some symbols but so far, we got no meanings on them

short owl
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... You may have an angstable with the question of "do they have bodies"

Maybe they don't have bodies but parts of themselves that they are attached to. Without a good understanding of the elders, the remaining spirits would likely split these parts into two - one part to put in the place they called home, one part to put with the others so they aren't alone for all eternity

cold dock
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isnt that simply just design

sly kestrel
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That’s what I thought

compact olive
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Does anyone have what that symbol or shapes are ?

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Like their version of it?

sly kestrel
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It’s no where else

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It’s jus circles and random shapes

compact olive
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I believe the art will guide us to “what’s in the box!” (Brad Pitt accent)

sly kestrel
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Even if it was somewhere else, it’s almost impossible to find a deep meaning to it
This is IF it doesn’t have a deep meaning too

compact olive
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I’ve got glow spells to burn after work

lethal stump
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it reminds me of the armillary sphere bases in valley

compact olive
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the what sphere? The golden ones?

lethal stump
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yes, those are called armillary spheres

compact olive
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Can’t we just use their scientific names?
“The gianormous golden circle thingies”

lethal stump
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if you want

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i like the word armillary

compact olive
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( SkyBow thank you for teaching me something new Bricky)

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Does anyone have screenshots of the tomb/alter circles ?

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And...the Armadillos

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For comparison

lethal stump
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that’s the only temple that has them
i’d go grab pics but i’m in prairie rn on a cr

compact olive
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I don’t get off of work till the next few hours

lethal stump
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that’s rough buddy

compact olive
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These theories are the only thing keeping me going

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The door to my office building strangely reminds me of the gates of Eden

cold dock
short owl
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That looks... Almost like it could spin?

lethal stump
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speen

cold dock
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speen

compact olive
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Get the other half in the shadows

cold dock
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probably not lol

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lemme try again

compact olive
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Lmao somehow that’s worse

cold dock
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android graphics arent.. the best

compact olive
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Does that look like paint or a light stain?

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Am I missing something?

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Does a crescent moon looking thing mean anything to anyone’s theory ?

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(O_O)... gasp
Maybe it’s where.....

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This was held /protected ?!

hushed steeple
short owl
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I mean if you have a desirable object, Tsadi would be a good person to protect it

compact olive
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Wait... there’s uncolored bricks in the center of is... but not sure if it’s worn off or painted like that on purpose

lethal stump
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why not hold it in vault tho ? why hold it in front of vault ?

short owl
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Vault is a group of scholars, in a city where people have reason to be. They likely could not fend off a theft and may not notice quicky if it's missing

lethal stump
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maybe that’s why the army is in front of them, to protect it
also it’s not unreasonable to assume a place with so much important knowledge had guards, not just scholars

short owl
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Guards, visitors, experiments

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Lots of stuff

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You don't want something valuble someplace too busy

agile galleon
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is it an armillary, orrery, or astrolabe? pThink

short owl
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Oh no someone who actually knows stuff is here

lethal stump
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Oh hello ktjn !

agile galleon
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I know nothing pSkyPeek

cold dock
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i have no idea what any of those words mean ngl

lethal stump
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can i ask you a question ? you probably get asked a lot, but i wanna ask one

short owl
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Ktjn are you here to deliver a red herring?

compact olive
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is it an armillary, orrery, or astrolabe? pThink
@agile galleon ktjn is broken

short owl
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I'll summon the clone. Clone: What is a moth?

pastel brookBOT
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A "moth" is a new player. They have brown wings, they flap around uncontrollably, and they are drawn to flame!

agile galleon
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ask away, no promises ofc but i'll answer to the best of my ability.

sinful gull
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KTJN HELLO!!!!!!

lethal stump
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is « but darkness blinds so i cast them away » from the old intro canon ?

compact olive
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Wait....is ktjn a dev?

hollow orbit
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AAA HELLO!!

compact olive
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SkyDeepBow @agile galleon oh sovereign, oh majesty of Sky Lore, How May we honor thee this gracious day that hath brought thee to our humble presence!!

agile galleon
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Yes, i'm a developer. However, I'm not a designer.

sinful gull
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I always thought that Eden mural in the Vault cutscene was either depicting us or the King/Prince

compact olive
hollow orbit
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How should we consider the poems included in the merch when it comes to lore?

agile galleon
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I'm not 100% but I'll ask the narrative team about the darkness bit.

lethal stump
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oki pWow

sinful gull
compact olive
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@lethal stump oh my god! It did use to say “but darkness blinds” I remember that!

lethal stump
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thank you so much Ktjn stickerHeart

sly kestrel
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hold up
There’s a narrative team 👀

sinful gull
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currently fanboying

compact olive
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I kept thinking I was in a Mandela effect

sly kestrel
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Like.....storytelling team? 😦

agile galleon
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The poems are a bit of a mix of canon and not-canon. I do not know the specifics other than narrative did review them.

sinful gull
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i want to find the narrative team and let them know how amazing they are and how much i love the story-

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oh? pWow pWow

compact olive
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Ktjn.... how do we get hired to join the narrative team?

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Or can we like... shines their shoes or something?

sly kestrel
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Make coffee for the devs? pWow

hollow orbit
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Pfft.

agile galleon
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Narrative "team" = 3-ish people who shape the lore.

sinful gull
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i want to ask them forty different questions pertaining to the king

hollow orbit
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Ah, that makes sense

lethal stump
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i love those 3-ish people

sly kestrel
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Same

sinful gull
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these 3-ish people have my heart

sly kestrel
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This is to the narrative team cEllieSkyHeart cEllieSkyHeart cEllieSkyHeartstickerHeart

agile galleon
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we're a small team, so folks who have a hand in the narrative have other roles and responsibilities as well.

sinful gull
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you guys are so amazing i look up to you guys so much

compact olive
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Ktjn...do you get share the same water cooler or coffee machine as they do? /Can we smell your hands?/

lethal stump
cold dock
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um thats a little creepy

compact olive
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Guys we are so close to the story right now my face is melting...ok. Dialing it back a bit

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Whew... I got this... I can be cool.. so...ktjn... hey...sup?

short owl
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I'm just waiting for some nonsense to spin into a story that is absolutely not the correct direction.

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Also... Is Megabird gonna get a name, or is there no competitor to calling them Megan?

sinful gull
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i have so many questions but i don’t want to seem annoying/obsessed/asking stupid questions

hollow orbit
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Ktjn are you still here?

lethal stump
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i think we scared ktjn off pCry

agile galleon
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yes-ish

lethal stump
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ktjn pWow

hollow orbit
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Ok, cool! pWow

compact olive
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SkyDeepBow i will stay silent.... I am sorry. Please stay.

short owl
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... Yeah given the stuff this chat talks about... I can see Ktjn running away in fear

sinful gull
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i wonder how ktjn feels watching everyone go bonkers over the lore pEyes

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ktjn can you tell the King i love him

short owl
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But if you work with the devs you probably hear more about the orriginal lore which is even darker than Mind Control Megan at times

sly kestrel
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Hey ktjn....is it alright if I ask how to properly pronounce ktjn
Is it kitten, kitchen, kid Jin or.....some other way

lethal stump
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oh yeah people fan over the king now

agile galleon
lethal stump
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what does it mEAN

sinful gull
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please tell the King i love him

short owl
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It means we are Ktjn's entertainment