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Well they don’t attack dead kids. They only attack sKids who, guess what..... have stars
krill on the other hand, do they eat us? They are seen consuming the manta so
so they feed on light?
Well they don’t attack dead kids. They only attack sKids who, guess what..... have stars
No
I've experience
hm..
Krill,crab attacks us even when you're faded or capeless
so krill are definitely dark creatures, and probably consume light.. so why would they attack a faded child?
I can understand crabs since again, we hunt them
I’ve seen that too, but “capeless”, I’d discuss with you, doesn’t necessarily mean “lightless”
so its self defence
Only Eden do we really see a lightless sKid
true
The one with black specks falling off of it and turning into stone
well..
yeah, thats completely lightless
so yeah I guess the krills feed on light
They attacks everything that comes on their path sometimes..
I remember I was taking krill Attack continuesly when I wanted to become capeless and I noticed a crab knocked out which was beside me
crabs get knocked over a lot tho
im drawing when i realized... megabird kinda looks like eden king?
Dark Stone! (I say projecting my hopes for that theory to stick)
megabird as king’s reincarnation aaaa
lmao
im drawing when i realized... megabird kinda looks like eden king?
They're like polar opposites, i-
who the hecc is the king im sorry-
yeh yeh polar opposites
oh my
Round
round??
It's literally a big ball of light with some trails
screm
mop lady
w o a h
Mega bird?

Preeby
and that, my friends, is the Absolutely Attuned Ascended Radiant Radiance
Also, the idea of skykids being made out of darkstone is kind of strange since megabirb is basically the god of light.
True
upgrades people, upgrades
He’s not entirely off his rocker, right?
Don't forget there's a theory that skids are king and the king was caught by the darkness once (in concepts)
Also, the idea of skykids being made out of darkstone is kind of strange since megabirb is basically the god of light.
@kind bobcat what type of God with which properties are we talking here? Jesus was made out of man baby flesh which is born in sin.
In the concept art story the creatures willingly gave the flame to the prince and his people in his time of need, (I have art to complete with screenshots tomorrow) and the people used darkstones In their technology.... it wasn’t until they Creatures felt the ancestors were taking “too much” light that they attacked the ancestors
My experiment is complete
Dark matter comes from the trees... that’s natural to the world of sky. There’s an equilibrium. It wasn’t until man/ancestors offset the balance that megabird got screwed
Soon as in like the next few seconds right?
(Gets out pitchers mitt and starts beating it with other fist) I’m ready
Rather disappointing size comparisons
Ah, before I go on, let me explain
I used grow spell first then huge spell and I was already close to max
Still not as tall as a spirit
That’s very sad 😖
In Eden it was really hard to get pictures where I wasn’t hunched over
But that’s basically it
Its been a long time since i logged in into the lore chat
Wb @jade river
You know, I didn’t think about stacking huge spells
Maybe next time
Have to buy more
Those swords had to be Cloud Stryfe buster swords, and those shields would literally protect the entire body of even an ancestor
The spears are massive
Also... was there like a fat stage in the ancestor history?
Indees they are
I took a picture close to a spear head (gate went up so I left after) and it’s half my height
wdym oz ?
What if those are like arrows of massive crossbows?
I’ve noticed that in the butterfly prairie age all the ancestors were Rollie polies even in the mural
In the cutscene for the wasteland elder, the elder holds it like a spear
that’s just.....their body types I guess
Oh the jelly baby type
These don’t look like the other mural ancestors... they had them some extra helpings of 2nds and 3rds
[Music]
Deaf people: dancing
it is an agricultural zone, i wouldn’t be surprised
Honestly, the text is hilarious
Hmm
It’s like it’s agreeing with you
Beginings of herarchy?
But not big enough to hold those spears. The elder, sure... but even the Rollie pollies would have a struggle with those sized weapons
soft lads.......friend shaped
Also questgiver is fitting
perfect for hugging
H u g
Maybe ....... (o_O) oh no.....
Here’s the huge and grow picture
wh..what rabbit hole, im scared
Those shields in wasteland aren’t meant for regular ancestors.
Those giant shields... and giant spears... were wielded by super solders.... here me out... maybe.... that’s what the king was doing... with the Eden Stone....that exploded! Building giant warriors to take out the creatures... and it ended horribly ?
No spirits left of them because they weren’t made with light
Hmmmm
At least not natural light
Or maybe they just died.
Crack pot theory I know...
dead dead.
I’m not huge in this but I thought it was cool
Yeah, the guard statues
They’re kind of the only size that can handle the spears
Crack pot theory I know...
@compact olive
With as little information as we're given, everything's crackpot
Maybe the spirits used the swords?
So either some ancestors were as tall as the wasteland elder or they're strong enought to wield those spears
It’s also possible that the spears were thrown
Are the children thousands of years old
Or does this universe take place in an old era?
Those spears were launched
Like exclusively for launching, yeah
what about the spear-sized swords
well, we have grow spells, maybe the ancestors did too
The wasteland elder uses them as mele but those are throwable spears
I don't think the valley elder uses spears-
what about the spear-sized swords
@kind bobcat
I'm afraid.
The valley elder uses sticks that’s supposed to be for an ancient game, not weapons
They use paddles
P a d d l e s
@kind bobcat
Thwack
S m a c c
B o n k
The big ol bonk
Hey Jay, do you mind if I DM you about something?
What luccio said
I believe they will be excellent warriors if they did use swords
Look how agile they are
Sure wren
U don’t have to ask permission
that’s my theory, they were soldiers, that’s how they lost their arms
Veterans of the wasteland war
And then moved the capital to valley
My dms dry as a Popeyes biscuit
so yeah, dm me wren 
That's why there is a change in the infrastructure between wasteland and valley
wasteland elder smacks a piece of paper on the twins' face
" Boom! You're drafted "
wasteland elder smacks a piece of paper on the twins' face
" Boom! You're drafted "
@kind bobcat
Hate when that happens
flashbacks of wasteland intensifies
Also, i don't think the capital was changed from one realm to another.
Twins racing through sky on a drafting campaign, just turns into spirit hockey.
Valley elder 1: give me the light
Valley elder 2: no bonk
sweep the leg
wasteland: how old are you two ?
spikey hair: 18
hill hair: 18 1/2
spikey haïr: why ?
wasteland: Great ! you’re soldiers now
both: what
They’re twins though
hill is overly specific
Fair
sweep the leg
@kind bobcat
Crack open the head. Go for the goal swipes and a spirit is YOTED to wasteland
have you ever met twins that didn’t argue their age
Also fair
Every old living being in sky: exists
Wasteland elder: you will be a soldier
Wasteland elder to skykids be like:
Hello kids, you like violence?
Hill fought for 6 months to stay in the womb while she kicked her brother out?
"it's a sacrifice I'm willing to make for you"
Before the war
Wasteland: many of you will die, but its a risk im willing to make
Valley elders, wasteland spirits and all the soldiers:
say sike right now
since the conversation has come to a close ....
Can someone explain to me the concept of the light and dark crystals? Where are they referenced in the game? And what they're about?
Star wars but its sky children of the light
@winged gazelle the power diamonds/crystals are the things we see on gates, probably.
Flying platforms
Vault's elevator
Eden crystal
nods
They basically allow big things to float and move around
So power diamonds and/or dark stone were referenced in the live-streams and can be seen as described by Goober
We all agree there’s 7 elders... (including a king/destroyed elder)....but the valley “elder” is really...two people... so why isn’t it considered 8 elders?
The valley twins are considered as one
And destroy entire civilizations because of someone's stupid mistake
Should I slide in and show u all my details about the power diamonds
Or should I get some sleep 
Details first then sneep
Sleep, then make a document for us 
I'm getting dark crystal 80s movie vibes
King: NOOO, YOU CANT DESTROY MY CASTLE AND CONDEMM THIS AREA TO ETERNAL DARKNESS
Eden crystal: haha rocks go WIND SOUNDS
I totally see the skesis/elders gelfling/sKid connection
... oh man I didn't even think of that, Oz.
Although, the elders give me a bit of the mystic/skeksis combo vibes.
(Is waiting for Jay to slide up in with his details)
@cold steppe we gotta work on that size theory. I’m loving it. @lethal stump giant spells man!
What if
Instead of elders being too big thanks to potions
Are skykids small to the infrastructure?
It was said (I can’t remember by which developer) that the sKids were intended to never be able to grow up. Something about the fundamental child like innocence ?
I analized some things and skykids are hella small compared to buildings lmao
The devs wanted us to feel small in a big world
Don’t quote me, I’m trying to remember which live stream I was watching when I heard it
That’s the one, what @sly kestrel said
Jay... where are the diamond details?
Never once in my entire life did i say that or think about it
And...I’ll send it later
Never once in my entire life did i say that or think about it
@sly kestrel no, I meant what you said they said is what I meant to say.
Do you think @hollow pier the king statue on the large cargo freighter, in your picture, is a turret like in the concept art?
@compact olive maybe! That king statue is weird it has a sit option oob in it
Oz you’re thinking of the livestream that says the elders never grew up and were always elders
I might be mixing the two up
Hey oz....May I ask a tiny tiny tiny tiny tinyyyy lil question
Guys, those of us that are awake enough to count... @cold steppe has presented us with a gorgeous find. This size things is huge...mind the pun... let’s try to crack it!
Of course
On ur pfp
Which one are you, the one on the left or the right
My bad for asking, I jus got rlly curious
Lmao If pfp = profile picture I’m the one on the right, my wife is on the left
Ooooooh
Okayyy, once again sorry for asking, I was jus rlly curious
She’s my partner In Crime ...even in game
No need to be sorry at all!
So this size thing. @cold steppe you still awake?
The ancestors were always puzzling to me
Check it
I have something for you guys...
I was saving this till I could refine it... but I’m ready to beta test it
light..... 
Maybe this has already been thought of and I'm just really behind the curve, but... Lore theory: Sanctuary island is a sanctuary the spirits fled to after things went bad in the sky kingdom.
The manta cape spirit is trying to cheer up the others after they had to flee their homes. He takes one spirit up to see the beautiful view, but the grumpy old man isn't impressed. He's unimpressed by it not only because he's grumpy and old, but because he misses home. He tries to give a shell to the sunglasses spirit as a gift to cheer him up, but sunglasses rejects it. Later manta cape uses that same gift to cheer up the shy spirit. She's not just over emotional about it, these are tough times for her and the gift means a lot. The white pants spirit finds his own comfort by watching the jellyfish.
@compact olive there are three light orbs hidden away under a dune in the isle
Do you think those are connected ?0-o
those are from lightseekers :0
They promised us more Lore, Bricky.... and maybe they may just have given it to us
Like I said this is just a beta theory, I’ve been sitting on for like a decade now, but I figure maybe I can share it and see what others have found, what others think.
I find it odd.... that the king was corrupted by dark stone....and the emote that carries this round thing....just like the round thing in the 7th elder mural....is...none other than.... “anger”
Do you think those are connected ?0-o
@misty idol you have a screen shot?
Let me grab one for yah
I wanna see those orbs so badly
Idk if that’s for sure what the king is holding in the mural, but that’s a good speculation
Where are those located and why does God hate me for not showing me these ?
Under a dune on the left side of the island behind the little cavern
Are there murals on the walls? Are their carvings on the boat, what do the balls do?
Why man? Why!?
The balls dont do anything but if you light the candles on the wall
Two hidden glowing circles appear
(Not where the candles are mind you)
I’ve spent an hour before trying to find the third cause there must be a third somewhere right? Nope
That was added in the lightseeker season
It was sort of a foreshadow for the enchantment season
Those 2 seasons are connected lore wise
Oh my goodness
Now that you say that jay, the murals on the ark show many boats leaving right? Each had their own symbol if I remover correctly. Can someone get pics of the ark murals?
Oh my... goodness
Remember *
What.... is the purple light’s purpose? What is it linked to? (Season of enchantment)
And does anyone recall what the light seeker’s symbol was?
@misty idol unfortunately I do not
I found it
Oh there is goes!
two hands holding an orb of light
that was also the first time we saw the “catch the light” quests
Oh man
I smell prince memes
Purple is related to the vault of knowledge
Caption this “nom nom nom”
Okay ! Correct good sir! The vault of knowledge! You get a star!

What shape is closely related to the purple light !

Badda bing, hand ginsy (and lilredrose) a ring!
What part of humanity does that purple, diamond ....link to?
Old age
Only those who did their homework will get this extra credit one
I think
the diamond tech we see around the kingdom? the memory lanterns we see in vault? both?
Survey says?..........
The mind. So you’re both correct because with old age, or with “time” you learn more and the vault holds history, memories, knowledge.
You both get a star
We know the diamond shape and it’s purpose. We know it’s littered all over the vault and their civilization’s iconography.... what do we know about the orb?
Nada
Well isn’t there an orb shaped enchantment shape with a corresponding color?
What is it (I didn’t get to play enchantment, as it ended right when I got back from hiatus)
hey, i just compiled the boat murals in order. Seems i finished just in time
Thanks bricky
no prob
no prob
@lethal stump I thought #9 was #1
@lethal stump prey tell us what the red circly thing is representative of ?
Lilredrose posted the enchantment pic
What does it mean? The yellowish one is a flame and represents fire... the drop is blue and represent Gatorade... what does the red one represent ?
Wind
The turquoise one is life of land
I recall that one because it gave the flowers
He’s also the farmer
I’ll tell you what I think it represents.....a storm....a red storm... that swirls in a circle... dragging rocks and things in a circle....sound familiar? Like a certain place we shall not name? Starts with an “E” and rhymes with pie’d of pee’d in
no one really knows what each light colour represents haha
eden
eye of eden, eye of the storm. a hurricane
wasteland
vault
forest
prairie
isle
valley
Ah
The rocks flow in a circle
I would switch around forest and valley ginsy
i always assumed the wasteland red light was a swirl because we get sucked into a toilet flush to enter wasteland 
And it’s a red sky and has red hot rocks that melt your face off if they hit you
no, thats where the light are lil 
thats alright!
Maybe the king mixed the red with the purple and made that giant Eden rock in the center ?
The orb with the power diamond
Or he ate all of em

Mix all the colors together it’s black
And could be a metaphors for being hungry for power
Well the diamond is still there, but it’s glowing red and .......oh my god......
Oh my god!
Check this out!
Lil you can’t see images to I’ll just explain you’ll have to imagine it
Thank you ☺️
Think back to when you saw Eden... in the eye of the storm what’s shooting out of the red diamond?
Yeah, it could also be yellow light at times depending on the angle but it’s the light you’re spot on!
@spring blaze Ginsy you still with me too?
Says they’re on
I need Ginsy’s hell to explain this next part. I’m gonna post a picture
Sweet. Go back to work ginsy!
😆 just kidding I love ya.
Kinda blurry tho...
Okay follow me Lilred...the rabbit hole gets a bit deep here
I’m already 2 feet in
is the text blurry? i can type it out if you’d like
Regardless what it’s called, it’s the point on the planet where the creatures and the ancestors were going to be lifted their souls to megabird so they could be slurped up and spit back out.
Aight
A ton of light being shot up like the Geizers at sanctuary
Just a bunch of souls from a
The little-Est butterfly to the biggest mama mantaray
Ok
Souls all day err day... flying up that reverse toilet hole into space where mama mega bird scoops them up...
With me?
Ye
Keep that nugget in the back of your mind... ton of light flowing through that spot...
Okay... next part...
Lilred, say you’re the Prince/king...right?
Act 1
- The Prince wakes up and rescues you by flying you out of the king’s body.
Act 2
2) Exit top of the Storm and every player is revived - Reunion with your friends. Prince goes on ahead
3) Everyone flies together
4) Creatures who also made the journey joins you
5) Fly out of the top of the Beacon and float into zero gravity. Bird of Light flirs over and picks everyone up.
Ok 🤴
Ginsy you can pretend to be the king too.
Thanks ginsy

“I’m a servant of yours in vault and I come to you like “hey yo! Your majesty! Your high-ness and what not... there’s a problem with the system we’ve got going on over here.” (To Which you would ask...)
“what seems to be the problem?”
“What system”
honestly i like it 
“What system?! The power diamonds system, ya know, the sucky light thingies we use to ya know... do errthing around here. And the PROBLEM is... we use d’em amnimals tuh pow’r da damn tings...but I mean... we’re running out of amnimals. So uh, we have to power the toilets alone in this here huge city... how we gonna get that kinda light!? That’s like a lot o’ light know what I’mean?”
(Now, you’re the king... you have diamonds that suck up light to use for power... what...do you... do...?)
Use it on myself
For reference
Use it there
Which disrupted the whole system entirely, blocking the light and what not.
Which caused the sky world to be covered in darkness
For the most part anyways
Forcing people to leave to search for a new home
And for the vault to be abandoned
But the enchantment spirits took basic light magic to set up a new life
And for others to flee to the sanctuary islands
Quick edit. Others went to sanctuary included the light seekers who then went out and searched for
The orbs
Of light
Found three
Took them to the remaining vault librarians
Magicians
What ever you wanna call them
And they saw a way to return life to the waste
could be magicians since in the ark, you can buy potions and spells
So they went off
And tried to do that
But couldn’t
This the dry crops
Thus*
I can only assume they died of famine
Also ark
You’re teaching me a whole lot about enchantment season cause I didn’t get to see it for myself, so thanks for this
possibly, from their cutscenes i saw they were harvesting mushrooms, but i doubt its enough for all of them to last
oz, i posted the enchantment cutscenes in youtube! it’s pinned in the channel 
(O_O) they didn’t resort to cannibalism did they?
i hope not!
but compared to noah and the enchantment spirits, the human race survived 
while the ancestors did not 
THATS HOW THAT ONE SPIRIT GOT LOST IN THE CAVES

the hat and flower cape spirit
its ok though 
I was. I don’t think the human race would have made it if Noah had to take those crabs onboard
Anyways we know waste spirits resorted to trying to eat krebs
Those crabs are soooo crabby
By the roasting stick
Fire pit
In the corner
The guitar fella
Beard and guitar
With the “ don’t go” emote

Yup
I must rest my brain, got work in the morning. Keep the lore alive ✊. #KingPluggedBeaconWithDarkStoneForMOREcowBellPower!
kraeb murals
They tried to get fresh water but the krebs scared em away
rest well oz! 
so my theory
Pic 1: the kraebs live on the water. I’m betting this is drinkable since the ancestors are putting it in jugs
Pic 2: me n the boys on our way to disturb the local fauna
Pic 3: me n the boys disturbing the local fauna. Ancestor spirits collecting water in jugs, likely to drink
Pic 4: local fauna disturbed and it is mad. Kraebs chase ancestors away after they’ve messed up their habitat
Kraeb family: kraeb family
the old dude also couldnt purify the water with his magic
Mhm
Anyways imma hit the hay. I’ve got class in the mornin.had fun un earthing lore tonight! Goodnight y’all. 
Gn rose !
sleep well lil! 
i have english homework to finish up so i’ll lurk if yall kicks up again 

I heard kreb theory
Im happy
Like my theory
I wonder if they adapted from living in normal water (peaceful krebs) to living in murky water/drought (dark angy krebs) because of the ppl taking all their water

looks like a vault scholar
Statues of the king or prince?
But why he in Eden
i dunno
looks like a scholar, that’s all i can say
I thought he have multiple samurai at the back😅
I wanna go on an eden exploration to take pics of every interesting thing next week 
Great
But the interesting is....under that statue, it is the place where there is five stone kids
Three in the front, two at the back
Where we can light it up
For ascended candle thing
Couldn’t sleep Bricky... had to.... make it...(passes out)
go to bed, oz
it’s 4:02 am but yaboi has been up hyperfixating
The king would've been proud of you
Do these mean anything
Check the pins
By mochi-daifuku not canon
Note) These are personal notes of Mochi-daifuku, who is interested in languages and linguistics but not a linguist nor an observant person. The documents are live and I'll probably rewrite them now and then. Please feel free to use the images in these documents to build your own theory!
Maybe these have something to do with eachother
who knows, it could symbolise light o:
I deleted tho👀
Im not commonly here but, just a random thought, what if the realms actually teleport us in time?
Maybe like in isle, they just newly discovered the island, then they made it beautiful like prarie, then a storm destroyed it like in forest, but they made it even more beautiful than before, then another storm that destroyed it like in wasteland, so they decided that theyll just make a secure building to store their knowledge and stories then the storm destroyed that.
We were created to interact with the spirits so they can move on from theie specific realms.
And the elders were their own rulers in time.

sounds nice but wouldnt that take out the whole point of the elders making the diamonds for the king?
Eden is also visible in the realms (don't know if Eden is visible in Isle). So if this theory is true, then Eden castle has to be destroyed around Prarie time
Eden is also visible from isle as well^^
But you can't see Eden only in vault
i guess its because vault is edens entrance
Yep... Probably inside of the mountain
yeah
really?
It's covered by clouds, but it's there somewhere 
Yes it's there obviously... Can't see for those clouds
Those are for light up the areas?
in ark, the holes in the cloud were made by the wind guy (during the season of enchantment)
Moonlight 🌕
probs for lighting like amio said?
K I've a theory: those holes are made by fallen meteorites... That's why all buildings are broken there... Only industrial work can't made such destructions... I'm assuming those meteorites came from Eden storm
or the diamonds from eden fell there?
Possible
And look at graveyard... Many giant creatures died together ... Maybe for a big destruction.. like meteorite shower

Well I'm not a native English speaker... Excuse if I made any mistakes
likewise xD
i think clouds get stirred around from time to time
Some people were busy!
mhm
i wonder why the valley has crabs in the temple area..
Livestock... No? Ok
😂
they seem too angry for livestock
angriest crabs ive seen are valley and sanctuary
Yeah they really don't like skykid
Crabs in Valley?
in the maze at the temple
hahah
Imagine if crab are flying but krills is walking...

Thankfully we can fly

the beam thing?
Yeah
Could be
^
A reverse power diamond
What if the game had a save eden DLC later on as like an end to the story
a self sufficient diamond that looks for light by itself 
What if the krill isnt alive but was built and has a laser for an eye

That's why you only lose lights when they hit you, they don't consume it
Because they want to be the only existing light in the darkness?
What if we could get the thing that the valley elders are holding and use it to launch crabs
They are the creature of darkness.. other name for krill is dark dragon. They see light as an enemy. Same with crab.. they target light.. because I did saw a crab put out fire on sanctuary. So yeah
is that why theyre so angry
@tender dune sounds fun
Lol
so I notice something in the new map (sanctuary) there is a small island and on that island there are two carbs that does not attack
it makes me wonder, if the Krills have another version of them that does not kill ones light?

Turns red
Oh kiwi those are friendly crabs
We think that all Crabs were like those from beginning
But darkness came....
what if there is friendly krills some where?
Maybe👀

oh- I thought it was a fish, a bird fish, with a mask
Friendly crabs :

Friendly krills : 


it a whale 
Msg disappearing?
:0
it a whale
@tender dune you mean krills are whales?
I thought krills are shirmps?
Friendly version*
krills too small to be whales though..
Yes
Or the krill is the soul of the fish...
And whale Don't have legs
and too (cylinderical?) to be manta
they envoled
You guys know what darkness was a natural part of sky from beginning
So my guess krills were there from beginning ... Just hidden in dark places
that would explain the long history of fighting Krills of the Elder map 5
What happened when krills die?
the '-' elder spirit with the huge spear with hair that spike but with a tail like a krill?
the Wasteland Elder
Krills , crabs Don't have life cycle like other light creatures I think
Ah kiwi you mean the battlefield?
Okay I have to say it because it's gone unsaid.
Kriller whales.
wasteland elder's hair is a krill body 
that would explain the long history of fighting Krills of the Elder map 5
@cunning iron umm fighting krills?
Can you explain little?
or was he .-. protecting? What does he do with the spear?
The battle?
For info : the battle was between two groups of soldier ... Most likely a civil war ... Those barricades are useless to prevent flying creatures like krills
To stab things
There're two types of Shields ,spears and swords
a civil war...thats sad
That's what we think because we can see spears piercing both types of shield
We know that user of those weapon is big
Yes
I think it will be the same size as the elders
but it was most likely because that I think the place used to be a battlefield
The sprits in the Wasteland seems to be very caution about the Krills instead of any threatening emotions, its like, they were there for so long
And the wasteland elder has one spear and a sunshield.... But at the starting of. Battlefield you can see a spear is piercing a sunshield
:0
Haha spears go WOOOSH
At the near of elder room you can see a spear is piercing a diamond shield

I've pic tho
i wanna see
me too
K wait..... Have to dig deep in my gallery
speaking Wooosh, recently new skykids are wooshing a lot in Wasteland as if they want to get to other side
A civil war about what exactly..
Technology? Rare resources? Misunderstanding? Or knowledge?....
I do think it was knowledge as the vault is like right behind the battlefield
unless they were protecting the vault
Yeah that was the most likely
You can see how the vault is waaayy different from gw.. that mean whoever is defending it actually succeeded.. yay
but took so many lives...
mhm
@cunning iron thats nature of war tho ...
Reality insertion isn't good in a video game
If we have Krills and evil crabs
would there be evil sky people?
dark sky peopple?

so many, this is hella good stuff
probs the most stressed elder
Couldn't found the pic in which the spear piercing a sun shield
its ok
Next time when you go battlefield from graveyard try to look at the 1st shield which has a darkness plant underneath
sure thing chief
Found it
My theory is the civil war happen and just finished... Suddenly when both side is so weak. The red hellish diamond appears and wreck havoc to the sky world..
lore
Ah ah no the red diamon or the king's darkstone exploded because of the king's greed
It's something most people agree on
Oh really
Yes
@summer trellis oh well that was worse than my theory...
The idea of a civil war seems both justified and unlikely at the same time
We know the forest supplied to the wasteland
Therefore they were allied
But it would tip the war in their favour
@mild lark did you read the pins?
This map look kinda cool.. I got it from the pins..
OO
Yeah barely know the pins
WOW
It's an old concept art
:0
This is cool too.. just found it
Imma explore the pins
Turns out it isn't that much except than cool art work... So yeah.
we still take reference from the tomcepts, though a lot of stuff has definitely changed from the tomcepts, ideas/themes from there could have been carried onto the current lore 
question i guess? why does rain hurt us but not swimming in water??
You know how theres a light circle around spirits and winglights? Maybe the reason theres a circle that you can see of eden from isle, is because that giant birb is a giant winglight
there's a theory that the forest rain is acid rain that came from the wastes of industrial areas in forest/gw
also, light circle?
Oh acid rain
ohh like the rainbow ones
I've a question about on that
The circle that shows up when you look at winglights
And spirits
And in the distance
If acid rain made forest trees dead and white
Then why they're dead, White trees in prairie
And tree in vault?
The vault tree is a projection/apparition
The white tree in the spirit cutscene
Dream
:3
Dream
Yes, the dream tree.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Those white ones?
Yes
You can bring a moth
that part of vault is when the dream-like part starts iirc
In my one hell of a crackpot theory
The interior of vault is like a VR room
Where the memory lanterns all make a projection covering the walls and ceilings
Making it look endless
What if the circles on the blocks lining the shelves are actually hologram projectors
What circles? 
the blue circles?
Wut circles?
W h a t c i r c l e s
Which circles
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Dood sebd a picture
U mean like those containers on the shelves are just projectors
if you zoom in, you can see the vault lanterns with the blue circles on em
I think I know what you mean
For me I thought they r records that would display their memory thru projectections
Ah ye
i believe i took that between the 2nd and 3rd level of vault? going with the projector theory, it makes sense since that's when you can't see the archive shelves anymore
Those are in shelves as well
yeah i know, but that's when you start not seeing the actual vault
Let me find that🏃♂️
The vault itself could simply be having its own shelves be masked until a point
i think that's when you start seeing the projections of the lanterns instead
I thought those holds only flame tho
@wispy canopy yes the lanterns are records
Those things that look like lanterns must be the archives, that contain info that can viewed via projections
In a world where big boats made out of rock can fly and sea creatures live in clouds.
Why couldn't memory lanterns be used as projectors?
@infinity king yes the lanterns are records yea I know bud, it's pretty to cool to think of it that way rite
Exactly
@gray bridge It's all a big VR room 
Is this a factory???
Altho the place seems ancient, the area function seem to be very advanced in itself
The place isn't as ancient as the other realms i think.
Here's a close pic
Is this a factory???
@tender dune
Looks like a potential map factory, seen it many times
Could be the same age as the man-made structures in eden
interesting
@tender dune that's just 2d image of another powered diamond factory
All the places are ancient, they're just overrun by kids in places I guess
it could be that vault had been preserved very well
It means they're many factories in wasteland
The ones we interact could just power the big diamond
But the others are artifacts, probs
It means they're many factories in wasteland
@hushed steeple
True, i
Could hint the next map
Good morning 
morning bricko
Hello brick
interesting how there's two different types of lanterns o:
knowledge cubes and lanterns
knowledge cubes and lanterns
@hushed steeple exactly
i thought the cubes stored the lanterns?
The ones that aren't lit are the ones that are empty but can be used to record
ohhh
They could just be another form for them to record the stuff in
Oh the lanterns definately are projectors
Kinda like their version of books or CDs
They are, some give power and others, history and facys
With varying functions
Yes exactly
Some lanterns are just lanterns
True
Some are normal others like the vault, actually have a use altho we can't interact with them
the ancestors did really love lanterns huh
Lol maybe it was most simple and practical for them
That must've been the care element for them to harness light, like green lantern corps
They fit easily, can be suspended and all
True, the very lantern has uses that contain already
Like lighting, powering and other stuff
exploring wasteland rn, interesting why ark has a crescent there
Overwhelming and beautiful
The way I see it, this is a game of its own kind
The idea and function of it is diff compared to others
I absolutely adore how heavily the gameplay and story rely on kindness and friendship
Sorry if I go a little personal here, but as a neurodivergent person who has to kick depression butt, this game and the friends I made in the game have been so successful in keeping me happy and hopeful
Come to think of it, the aim of the game is to help the poor souls on Eden as much as you can, one for all
Sorry if I go a little personal here, but as a neurodivergent person who has to kick depression butt, this game and the friends I made in the game have been so successful in keeping me happy and hopeful
@summer trellis
I support you on that frend
Hey guys found something interesting
Prea h brother
We are listening amio 👁️👁️
The spirit holding a normal lantern
Lol...

Goober sorry to go off topic but your name is fantastically fascinating
Thank you.
It's an offering, maybe he's recommending something at the table, like he's at a meeting
As I said it's quite possible that different lanterns had different functions
👁️👁️
True
That's Bigger
Maybe that's the memory lantern
Does the music in the orbit make u cry
yes it used to
Oh thank god
Yea same here
but this isnt lore xD
It made me sob the first time I ascended
yeah
Yeah it's not lore but I felt like I had to know, my bad teth
it cool (call me ginko lol)
I guess we're discussing the reason as to why everything is like that in sky
Why lanterns and so on
And this is just lantern
We've got toxix pools and krill to talk about 😂😅
The lanterns do seem connected to the projector. Maybe he's preparing the lantern to help us float upwards
Vault is by far the most mysterious level yet.
We got glyphs
Runes
Lanterns
Dreamworlds
True
The devs did say vault was supposed to be mysterious and dreamlike
makes sense
Forgotten ark belongs to wasteland area so we're seeing the same sky
vault's a whole package, all the elders even showed up in vault 
yeah 
yep that's true
The only tree that has leafs ಥ‿ಥ
Vault's so cool all the elders came for vault mom's party 
thus vault vault is best elder
The leafs are White
How do I not remember this
How do get them again, I forgot
Anyone wanna come with me to see that tree
so is the whole tree though, since it's a spirit memory the tree's gonna be white as well
How do u get the tree to be white
It's not your fault may
Most of us (me as well ) forgot what was in spirit memories....
same
I wish they should is the spirits bodies
Showed us the
They technically died so they must have their body or clothes and armor somewhere you inow
But most of those were when they were alive or what they did
The One in hidden forest showed us a spirit in a cave in
o h oops i misunderstood your message-
There's graves in the vault
Nah that's alrite bud
Oh yea
Come to think it that makes sense
You guys ever think there should be a battle phase in this game
it wasn't even a battle actually, just you trying to survive
Aren't we all
What
the battle fase is there, we just get there after it is over (aka Wasteland)
Ahhhhh
I see
Did you guys saw my meteorites theory about wasteland?
Must mean special spirits control the lanterns
Did you guys saw my meteorites theory about wasteland?
@hushed steeple
What's the theory
It's about why there are holes in clouds of wasteland and why those buildings are destroyed
I just made my own theory... Dunno if that even makes sense
Well the way I see it frm ur point of view is that, vault is indoor and wasteland is outdoor, it's the nearest outdoor to Eden so, the meteors from Eden must've affected the wasteland
Yes
The while areas is one big map just that we have portals to various areas
I think that's a gd theory
Gd job amio
Huh
Must mean headgear and hair
mhm
Represent the mask?
Maybe it's to show the headgear


What was his name again?
@summer trellis alef -> prince and resh ->corrupted king
{Concepts}
Gracias
Corrupted King?
Ya bro
What's that
How do u think the diamond explodes
Diamond explodes?
eden
Darkstone in eden
he means
The storm
Eye of eden
oo i have a theory on that
But it doesn't explode
play hide n seek there
But the thing is Eden must've been a proper eden
Like a castle
So I'm guessing u mean the core of light was corrupt
It's Disneyland
In Eden alone
i have a theory but its kind of irellevant now since the season is over. and im not sure if this is a fact already.
Tell me olease
the red stones you see in eden are from the diamond so i think it's still broken
We're listening



