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No, that island isn't sanctuary
that island is where the opening cutscene happens
What is that island anyways
wait what 
Kindaaa 
Oooo
Yeah, Jay showed us some oob pictures he got from a friend.
I wanna see
Wait I have lore
Pines oobed there and found the opening cutscene murals
But wait, seagulls 
@lethal stump SHOW ME
All ideas are welcome unless the lore chat says it isn’t
HOW COME
Yeah, if you listen closely, you can hear seagulls at home
AAAAAAAAAAAAA
It's pretty faint, but I can hear it best standing over the dressing room
what have i come back to
Oh nothing much
How long did it take to fly there
There is that wind wall so I don’t think you can
Home is the only ‘real’ place. Everything else is a simulation. Proof: you have to go through a portal to go anywhere. You don’t actually go anywhere but into some sort of alternative dimension or something. You only hear seagulls at home because they don’t exist in the simulation.
they went using table glitch
Jay has to take us there as a mandatory lore expedition
if pines comes on you can ask them
Back when tables were TABLES 
Home is the only ‘real’ place. Everything else is a simulation. Proof: you have to go through a portal to go anywhere. You don’t actually go anywhere but into some sort of alternative dimension or something. You only hear seagulls at home because they don’t exist in the simulation.
@hushed steeple
That idea crossed my mind too... except we can bring our wings and our stuff home. Things that affect us in the simulation also affects us in the "real world" so to speak.
Tables used to break wind walls too 
Hold on
🤔
In the cutscene, six stars fell.

Yeah, Oz pointed that out the other day.
HAH
alef: MOVE OUT OF MY WAY PEOPLE
elders: who are you—
So alef is just another ancestor playing god with a huge mech suit 
Pretty much lmao
"we've never met you once what-"
- clings to lucifer theory* nooooooo
N o
Alef was never an elder, what if the darkness mentioned IS alef.
Oh I have a question. Are we going to see stuff with the giant stone talus in the office area
It would be cool if they added more creatures
Oh gods, goober I love where you are going!!!
master of deception
EDEN IS A FALSE RULER
@kind bobcat
Mountain tops, in Greek mythology, often represents ascention, godhood, and power. To be at the peak of a mountain, in many cultures, means you're above your peers (literally and figuratively) and wise.
So, he might have hit a mountain lol
he's also hideously tall. he looks down on everyone literally
So some dude that fell on a mountain suddenly became god
@kind bobcat
Same
he was the shortest though
not in the funky mech
Ok I’ll stop reacting with
He seagull 
It all fits together 
t-tiny....
Ok I’ll stop reacting with
@sturdy condor
It's a good react.
Alef, god of deception.
smol
Sniper of mountains
@warm coral I have a feeling we will be seeing the hole manta evolution in Sanctuary: from little birbs to big boys with too many wings
Flapflapflapflap just horrendous
Alef short
So king is the bad guy afterall
he always was
Old forest elder be that one dude when the cameraman says "Freestyle!"
Lmao
Them legs 
Good intentions, bad exectution. probably
Wait!
she is beauty
she is grace
she will bonk u in the face
mom was thiqq
guys
lore
l e g s

sorry
Hahahahahhaaha
Technically this is lore
Legs 
Lore vs legs
Legs>lore
Legs wins
Well, if the mountain represents ascention and wisdom, it could also mean he was respected amongst his peers.
Good intentions, bad exectution.
probably
@brave parcel
That's what I think could be a possibility. The draw of power isn't inherently evil, especially when you're surrounded by "yes men." It could very well have been a wise mans fools journey.

Good intentions pave the way to the storm.
slow blink
Stop with the forest elder legs
We must
I'm getting confused 
We're talking abot Alef not Teth
I mean really, I am seeing them legs right?! 
Legs
Idk
Legs
Good intentions to advance tech, but horrible excecution that lead to a fall of civilization
Stahp with the l e g s
That’s what you came back to
So wait if what I’m hearing is that the final spirit at eden is bad and is the one that makes you reborn or something, so that makes us working for the bad guy?
Dem legs tho ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Or I’m confused
seriously guys, enough
Ok fiiiiiiine
So, after seeing the opening cutscene.
Alef could be the darkness the narrator refers to
Good intentions to advance tech, but horrible excecution that lead to a fall of civilization
@brave parcel
It's kind of where I think the statues in the storm came from but this is all pure speculation. I have no evidence to prove this as neither murals nor cutscenes elude to it.
So wait if what I’m hearing is that the final spirit at eden is bad and is the one that makes you reborn or something, so that makes us working for the bad guy?
we’re the king, we’re the « bad guy » trying to become good
Vs 10 people typing at the same time
trying, but failing because for us, there be no success
king redemption ark
How are we the bad guy again :3??
We stop talking about legs, now one ore two people are talking
@sturdy condor this is #lore-discussion-spoilers not #leg-discussion-spoilers
It be denied due to Megan's will
Alef could be the darkness the narrator refers to
@kind bobcat and the elders chose to follow him and this is what they were warned about
Oh yeah it's all coming together now 
If only they had listened
Big brain
I think I just adopted a theory
LUCIFER THEORY
How should I care for it
p l e a se
Darkness king theory
why do y’all hate lucifer theory * sobs *
Alef is the opposite of the megabird, the god of darkness.
What even is Lucifer theory
The Child of Darkness 
Tbh it has parallels with Lucifer
@lethal stump it’s not hate. I just like this one better 
@lethal stump Could u explain the Lucifer theory uwu
i just love everyones theories and im trying to write out one i thought about while half asleep
i just love everyones theories and im trying to write out one i thought about while half asleep
@brave parcel
That's how they get us
Those are the best kind
what's really dangerous are the crack theories that start to morph
wait crud
Alef was the first elder created, and then the other elders were made. they watched the creation of the sky world as « angels » in orbit with megabird. when megabird wanted to make ancestors without free will, alef stood against this and was cast out for it, and since the other elders agreed they were cast out as well.
it’s meant to be parallel with the story of lucifer. there’s room for improvement
What if... waffles
wait there’s actually lore in this game
Yes
O I see
Nani?!?!
hardly any but yeah
@compact sun always have been
Yes there’s lore
atleast alef is taller than someone
Lore is what you make of it
That’s concept art though
Yes
Like I feel like the golden wasteland USED to be something
Where's the official art

it’s all we have
The one on the left doesn’t look like anything in game
pins
We went crazy about a certain elder though.
and their twitter
Isn’t that Rythm man
No
@compact sun ya it looks industrial
Wasteland used to be a fortress of sorts
The concept art doesnt mean anything other than if the prince actually existed.
Pipes
If only we could’ve seen what it was like before
There’s theories that jt was a fortress or an industrial area
Both
Industry was producing and/or refining power diamonds
In a larger scale.
Maybe the previous people polluted it and caused a. Mini apocalypse
Since forest already had the job 
Yeah, if only in the elder cutscene for wasteland, they would show us what it looked like before
Chernobyl
Lmao
Maybe the previous people polluted it and caused a. Mini apocalypse
@hushed steeple
Hate when that happens
Did spirits die?
I've been thinking of a theory, but really it's just a combination of what I thought of and some theories I've read here..
In the power diamond theory, basically all the realms were working together to produce power diamonds to power their society
The best kind of theories though, La!
Spirits are dead people usually don’t
Alternative: The Megabird made stars without free will, and did the same with creatures. But Megabird began experimenting with will - allowing the creatures to begin toi make basic decisions. Then, Megabird made Ancestors. Ancestors were given free will. Aleph was made to watch over them, and gained will for himself.
But Will is a strange thing, and comes with concience and thought unlike that which Aleph was prepared for.
Aleph was overwhelmed, and turned to other stars for help, passing on Will as he did so.
It's still half baked though so I'll have to work on it hahaha
So valley spirits die of cold or what 
We’re not really sure how they died
That's alot of W I L L
In the eden fart theory, the spirits died because of the eden crystal exploding due to overload of power.
Alternative: The Megabird made stars without free will, and did the same with creatures. But Megabird began experimenting with will - allowing the creatures to begin toi make basic decisions. Then, Megabird made Ancestors. Ancestors were given free will. Aleph was made to watch over them, and gained will for himself.
But Will is a strange thing, and comes with concience and thought unlike that which Aleph was prepared for.
Aleph was overwhelmed, and turned to other stars for help, passing on Will as he did so.
@short owl it’s a good idea, maybe a bit of tweaking and it’s set
And what about sanctuary spirits
There’s a debate about whether or not the memories we relive are the ones they saw just before they died or memories that are important to them
They chilled too hard they forgot to live 
So 6 people are here active now 👀
Aleph realized that Megabird would not be happy to find that Will had spread beyond it's bounds, and was afraid for their other stars. So Aleph made a decision, and brought the other stars to hide among the Ancestors.
Sadly, Megabird did not prepare Aleph for this type of situation either. The ancestors turned to the stars for leadership, and they did the best they could. When they failed, the consequences were brutal.
Since we relive memories of spirits we cant point put where they died exactly, tho I know where cry spirit died 
The third grave in the cave 
Within the power diamond explosion theory, there’s a debate whether it was a mass extinction or a gradual event like being in the area of a nuclear explosion
Did the black winged spirit die by krill?
presumably
Possibly
Nah
Some of the memories could very well be last memories
cry spirit is really the only one that we can develop some story behind it’s it’s just so sad 
Sne ak
Can someone please add all this Elder fall theories to some doc where I can read them?
They died of crab
Fainting spirit....
I was thinking of the spirit's memories are their most memorable or the thing they always did. But then I remembered crying spirit and I want to scratch thay thought out 
Grief is also a strong memory
😔
Yeah
it could be just intense feelings in general
I'm still not sure about the story tbh
That hit hard
There's too much pictures
Geez I’m going to be here all night going down this endless rabbit hole of conspiracy theories
I can't catch up
Welcome to the madness
Geez I’m going to be here all night going down this endless rabbit hole of conspiracy theories
@hushed steeple wish you luck
There is actually relatively little confirmed story
We’re just theorizing off what we have
If wasteland was destroyed because of the eden explosion, it supports the gradual extinction theory since the spirit memories we see in wasteland show them climbing up the ruins. If wasteland was destroyed far before eden exploded, it supports the instant mass extinction theory.
I love conspiracy theories
though is it really a conspiracy theory if it's just one hive mind doing things
Other than that the realms are the stages of life, there isn’t much confirmed when it comes to lore
What was Eden anyways?
Nah I’m out. See you tomorrow lol
Death/rebirth
Or wasteland was destroyed before eden catastrophe due to war and the memories we see take place before Eden 
There’s a theory that Eden had the ultimate power diamond
No I mean like uh,, what's the point with eden
Like in game or in lore
Like what's is it
Wdym
Is Eden like uuuhh city
What's that diamond looking mountain thing
In some theories, Eden is a holy place where the elders gathered.
The capital of Sky land thingy idk what the land is called lmao
Eden was very prominent in concept art as a holy place
Valley was actually the capital
So like a beeg church?
Yes very beeg church
So, is it corrupted?
beeeeeeeeeeg church
Yup
Yes, now it is corrupted
Really corrupted
I thought it was like Mt Olympus where gods resides🤔
How exactly it was corrupted we do not know
Yes, now it is corrupted
@cold steppe
Hate when that happens
Shooting red rocks 
Power diamond at the end of stormlock caused all that to happen
So why would a place of worship have such an item, if diamonds were used as evergy wouldn't it make more sense to have the beeg diamond in the capital, valley
@sturdy condor hoot hoot bad
That’s one of the things we’re really not sure about
Lmao u fainted and birb cums
Concept art Eden was holy
I joined 3 months ago
And the game opening really didnt make much sense
Since you woke up on a small island called home
Stars fell
And you can go through portals to a word
But in-game Eden could have been the place for the ultimate power diamond. The sheer power it had may have been too much to stick in valley
Possibly
world gets destroyed
Caused everything to die
And typed gg
Some sort of darkness came and the elders fell
Whether it was Alef or a metaphorical darkness or a literal darkness or something else, we don’t really know
From the murals, it appears that the fall was at the very least literal (from possibly orbit to the world of Sky)
Could also be metaphorical
So the sky kid's(us) went to those worlds and gave the light to them. Why?
or possibly all three things at once
Or all of them 
Megan was the darkness
In what i'm going to call the False God Theory™
Alef made the elders fall from orbit
Enough lore, I want the meems
Y’all are blasphemous against the megabird
good
Whether he persuaded the elders
Or the elders came with him
Or he forced the elders
how does that pipsqueak force the elders to do anything
In the sky world he then took the role of King
big crown
"megabirb demands it" sort of thing
a little bit of convincing, good acting and offering something goes a long way
I just want to ask, are the elders alive?
Or in a more sinister version, Alef is the incarnation of the opposite of Megabird.
@lethal stump wouldn’t you know? 
I just want to ask, are the elders alive?
@half ridge they're not dead, they're not alive either
Brick, answer for your crimes
They're in a sort of limbo state outside of time and space
I just want to ask, are the elders alive?
@half ridge technically? They're in a pocket dimension..i think
i am taller than alef thank u very much
@kind bobcat ooohh thank you. That's interesting
Literally everyone is taller than alef
not a baby
yes because he is 3’2
Toddler
indeed
Wait aren’t chibis 2’3
yes

Yes
The smoler the more chaotic it seems
Am chibi can confirm
maybe thats how alef convinced the elders to join him. being small
So the child/children of light. How does this fit?
using the power of size 13
Don’t wanna deal with his chaoticness
no idea how it fits man
Wat
alef was probably the child of light, but was corrupted
in my theory he was literally the « child » of megabird, if you can count being made of clay and breathed life into as being one’s child
Isn’t alef that light you meet after you died in stormlock?
So he's probably like us, children of light? But he went rouge?
Think so
possibly, Silverse
Definitely possible
Alef, sitting after death like, "look at you, look how big you're getting, you've done a great jo- oh now you're hugging me.... Okay that's enough."
Like a dad who doesn't know how to bond with his kids.
his 20 million kids
Sky kids are the goofier
So we've been hugging our murderer the whole time?
@kind bobcat
Hate when that happens.
Spamming emotes be like
Sky kids logic:
- It makes sound, I scream back
- It is shiny, I take
- It moves, I mimmic
- It is my size, I hug
One thing i just thought about was the valley elders but look at the objects they hold
Good at whacking something for sure. Wonder what they use it for
Sports or arena activities.
Ball sport, probably
I kinda think the hug spirit being Alaf is kind of sweet and sad tbh.
Knowing that all of these kids are suffering to fix what you've broken. To save a world you destroyed. The least you can do is meet them at the door and hug them before they fly off and do better things than you've ever done.
Please, don’t make me cry
it'll happen here

Please, don’t make me cry
@mortal viper
No, bc then I won't be alone in my tears.
Evil


maybe there’s an explanation but why is it that winged light comes in the form of children? 
Honestly, the themes of the game are very sad with an undercurrent of finding beauty in death.
Beautiful vistas married to imagery of ruins.
Sweet and cute emotes paired with emotes that are scared for their life and cowering from monsters.
Stunning and sweet glowing drawings of people being destroyed by krill.
Life and death is rich in the culture. We see beauty in the world that's ever decaying. So a king who wished to be god watches these sweet kids do something that he never could, bring light in the darkness.
True true
It fits with the themes, I think at least.

That's beautiful...
very true
Makes me think of the opening for sanctuary. Something like, a land that has potential but it was wasted because of the spirits' death.
Now we liven up the place again and enjoy the sights that the spirits once enjoyed.
To be honest don’t you think that there was always going to be something corrupt in the sky world after all krills never really existed in the first place until darkness really actually came. And must of been a beginning for organisms to be corrupt too since krills must’ve been a corrupted manifestation of something right...? They hate light, they absorb the light but usually just take the light away and involve themselves in the darkness. Makes me imagine it for there to be hatred towards the light makes me also think that krills were also normal creatures too but happen to get trapped in by something causing them to turn out the way they are.
Rip krills

Imagine: oh no krills were good beings! Let me touch it!
touches krill and gets death threats
i have been wronged! 
I, personally think (and this is conjecture) that they are the natural byproduct of the diamond.
A light so grand, bright and good needs to be balanced with something or else it would be an unstable world.
So, the krill came from the shadows, after all, the brightest lights have the darkest shadows.
If you all didn't see it I said something about the krill growing because a massive celestial body blocked the big eden beam
@winged gazelle oooohh that makes sense
Just wanted to drop this here before I forget
I think I figured what the kids were supposed to learn in Vault, or at least what is being displayed to us:
Levels 1 and 2 (Isle and Prairie) have no projections so no idea what are their contents
Level 3 (Forest) holds information about the trees, possibly a bit of architecture and stone lanterns designs (I don’t remember seeing lanterns anywhere in the world before Forest)
Level 4 (Valley) holds lots of information about architecture and technology, as well as some info on mantas (the skeleton that gives the memory call)
Level 5 (Wasteland) only has info on the giant fishes (the floating vertebrae are fish vertebrae), be it because most of it was lost on the war or because we are children with no idea of what we are doing
Level 6 (Vault/Eden) holds the history of the world from the moment the elders reached it to the moment Eden happened
@mortal viper
That's an interesting idea. I think it's worth digging in to.
But what about mine?
Valley was a civilisation itself cause i remember entering the race and hearing cheering even though no one was there at the side. Made me think that there had been so many people here that come along and watch. Also there was spirits that had to do with the games which also made me believe that it had been an event loads of people look at. I wonder what made all those people disappear
I wonder what's inside the things on the shelves in vault...
@hushed steeple what do you mean by blocked? 
for me i felt that vault had been a place that stored things that would be good for knowledge based things. like for technology type things
Also vault is a puzzle in itself where you are must bring yourself higher up only to find more things that you haven’t seen.
…So a king who wished to be god watches these sweet kids do something that he never could, bring light in the darkness.
that almost reminds me of pale king. almost.
Oohh.. maybe they're like books to spirits.. or like hard drives haha
I wanna know more about the king tbh

Isn’t this fun guys
I have yet to immerse myself into this and its so fun

Think about it, the laser that is coming from the eden mountain, it goes all the way to space, space us not empty, there is a bunch of floating gas cloud and possible huge astroids and planets ||like orbit take you to a star where you get your ascended candles||
Oohh.. maybe they're like books to spirits.. or like hard drives haha
@half ridge
That's what I figured. A way to store information. They're in the shapes of lanterns which is neat.
From what I understand of vault, those floating thing stored on the shelves are actually projectors. The diamond in it stores a piece of information, much likely an image of sorts, but possibly other things as well
Oh i remember seeing that beam in a glitch i did
for info, no need to spoiler eden/orbit content here 
Oh oh, so kinda like a hologram? Haha
From what I understand of vault, those floating thing stored on the shelves are actually projectors. The diamond in it stores a piece of information, much likely an image of sorts, but possibly other things as well
@mortal viper
Honestly, I feel dumb for not realizing they're projectors.
Ok
Vault ofc has to do with knowledge since it says knowledge and at the bottom of the level looks like a weird way of a libary at the side of the walls
in addition theres a ladder
@winged gazelle , don’t. It also took me a while
Vault ofc has to do with knowledge since it says knowledge and at the bottom of the level looks like a weird way of a libary at the side of the walls
@eternal ocean
When you get close to the walls on the upper levels, I think those are textured as the bookshelves on the first level. But I could be misremembering.
They are
Hmmm... i see...
🤔
@mortal viper earlier comment about your sky kid logic: size is not limit to hug. Only willingness to accept hug is limit to hug. By this I mean GROUP HUG TSADI
YES PLEASE HE NEEDS HUG
I’m back from having dinner, what’s the new discussion rn
.... Tsadi?
The wasteland elder i believe
Now I am imagining Tsadi sitting on the floor covered by skykids hugging him
(what is tsadi?)
It is the wasteland elder concept name
The wasteland elder
Oooh okay. Noted.
I only remember the forest vauly and wasteland
Yeah, I screenshot the names somewhere and as a result, I didn't commit them to memory.
King is Aleph
Technology made me a waste of braincells
Dogpile Tsadi
Yeah, Aleph was one I remember.
lemme grab the elder names
nvm they’re there
Noted.
Lore: the ever vigilant to flex their braincells.
is the forest elder female?
They dont have genders but
What brain cell
I did the math and it's not enough.
We only have a singular one
It appears so but...
What is gender?
the elders don’t have genders
yeah ik they are beyond genders but ppl refer to forest elder in a feminine way
that’s up to you to decide
Sorry, I handed mine off to bluespirit after talking about themes. Idk where she put it.
Gender doesn’t exist in sky
for eg “forest mama”
We need Ayin and Samekh at minumum to join us
we dont really know the years gender age the elders originated i guess
They wanna keep things at gender neutral as possible
yeah
im starting to think forest elder is nonbinary. other elders are male coded
@winged gazelle , it is over with Bricky now
The only things that really would have a gender is the Isle elder and king
ya at least forest looks nb
@mortal viper oh thanks for the heads up
personally, forest and vault elders are girlfriends
but they’re (forest) slender and feminine in our own eyes
I like how the forest elder knows what shes doing in the cutscene. She literally says “Gimme this i know what im doing” in just actions
Snatches the fire out of your hands
i read her as light-hungry 
I think they're all pretty ambiguous which I appreciate, but the masc coding while showing vulnerability. All very good things to display imo

All elders take or ask for the light.
With exception of Tsadi (Wasteland elder)
Gender need not exist. Also Tsadi and Samekh are constantly switching between best friends and mortal enemies but no one knows which they are at a given time, not even them
good grief they have muscles too. if they fight...
Gender need not exist. Also Tsadi and Samekh are constantly switching between best friends and mortal enemies but no one knows which they are at a given time, not even them
@short owl
Kinda like me and my siblings lol
Probably were too careless and accidentally got on tsadi’s nerves
Wait what does Tsadi do with the light, I haven’t looked at the cutscenes in forever
Tsadi launches it with their sphere
Tsadi is gifted the light by skid
u know the funny thing? vault & forest are seen as feminine yet others as masculine — despite samekh are slightly feminine (lithe, more agile than strong) but well at least samekh are haughty with boyish air
Like i found the vault elder as just wise didnt really know their gender
samekh are the youngest of the elders imo
I just like their wiseness
but still u see how we refer to vault as “she”?
I can tell...
Wait what are the valley elders names?
Samekh
Both share a name
they share a namep
Wack
sam and ekh
i like that they share a name tbh. selfhood? dont know her
It can be confusing. Nicknames include "Spike" and "hill"
So the only way to tell the difference is by actually looking at them
Don’t forget Dora
You can tell how careless they become when they start playing around with the light before doing the job
why didnt they bother when the light went up?
If you were to write it down on the piece of paper, nobody would,know which you are referring to?
is that what’s supposed to happen, they just got creative?
Oh they know selfhood alright. And they have a popularity contest.
I thought the more heacyvset and bigger sports are make and the smaller ones with feminine hahr are female
Look at hero stance
VS the crying spirit
is it me or the end goal is to have the light go up? forest made it go up in stone iirc? valley allowed it to go up & didnt bother?
i don’t know why it goes up tbh...
then technically valley elders are girls,,,
Boy and girl
they can be whatever you want them to be
According to the devs at least
I like them all genderless. It nice.
I'd argue bot and girl
i see all elders as genderless tbh
Boy
Yeah genderless good
personally, samekh like confusing everyone with what they might be that even they don’t know
but i still tend to fall to gendered pronouns xd
@lethal stump I bet that happens on like... A quarter of all situations where the answer isn't obvious
The fact that they only have one name make it even harder to distinguish them
what if they’re equally capable of tasks so you dont have to worry who will come when u call ”samekh”. they can just help u equally well (when they‘re in the responsible mood)
Or maybe they are like a sale: call one and get the other for free
They're likely both competent, but I would imagine that they have different strengths
But for most things, either will do
Considering they are really competitive, i don’t really see them doing things separated. They would probably be trying to see who is the best all the time in the most trivial of activities
i feel like refugee spirit has been through Enough. i just wanted to put that out there
Have you ever wondered why there’s some trees in forest thats cut
im still unsure if the spirits have to go through the dark and scary parts of Eden too but i just think she deserves a nap
Who were to cut them
The lumberjack
They were cut down to extract dark diamond in order to combine them with light diamond and make power diamond
wondering though how far back was that.
While Forest temple was still a working factory, probably
They were cut down to extract dark diamond in order to combine them with light diamond and make power diamond
Sounds like a rough job
It probably was
But there is no way to know how hard it was because the only reference to it is in the Temple door
Yeah the temple door has diamonds at the side
But u can see a tree being cut down in the lumberjack memory
Wait a second. memory? what spirit again?
Honestly, after seeing more of the oob temple today... Maybe the twins are a lot less competitive than they seem. The place is falling apart. Distraction is likely the last thing they have
slumber lumberjack?
The one that gives the
emote
Jeez i need a rewind back in time
The apologetic lumberjack I think...?
i think its better to look at the memories of spirits more often
i probably would find more info
The place where we give them the light... Just beyond the podium, the bridge is collapsing
just grab a moth friend and have them relieve the memories with you
My heart hurts
@eternal ocean btw, memories are also logged in the pins, including cutscenes
Someone from the beta logged them all at some point
Yeah blue. If you go to the valley oob, you can jump on the circle and see the broken bridge
Ok, I’ll check it tomorrow
I do not know if it's different in daytime
hmm
Ok, then I will check it now
Too late
I’ve checked, but my internet is not letting me send it for some reason
And I have to go to sleep, but I will try to send it again tomorrow
Good night y’all
Flip crab with deep call
Grab crab
Piggy back with friend
Have friend fly you to location
@compact olive you can also warp with krabs
What if... waffles
doing valley oob...their arms look mechanic
i wonder if the valley elders are amputees, and if so, why ?
i wonder if the valley elders are amputees, and if so, why ?
@lethal stump sports accidents
Level 5 (Wasteland) only has info on the giant fishes (the floating vertebrae are fish vertebrae), be it because most of it was lost on the war or because we are children with no idea of what we are doing
@mortal viper Level five also has information about the cosmic whale being related to wasteland (which I think means they’re uncorrupted krill)
the angsty in me says that they fought in the war and lost their arms during it
that white mega manta looks like the cosmic one in the vault
i think one time valley fought so ferociously each lost an arm
accidentally chopping eachother's arms with paddles
tmw you sport so hard your arm just falls off
dueling sounds
Shiing!
" Ay look what you did! That was my favorite arm! "
/They're twins, maybe they only got one arm each. So they share & complete each other/
Maybe, that makes sense.
kinda like how they each only have one eye
what about their non-mechanical arm
what about it ?
I want to see it 
shoulda said that while i was in the oob smh
I could go to the valley oob but i'm just too lazy
They're two halves that make a whole?
ill go back now
eh, just add me so i can warp to you
“each has one eye”
[kurona & nashiro tg intensifies]

They considered one fallen star
So
They fell together as one, not separately
In half
good grief what made them separate yet instead of working in tandem, they work against each other??
a similar case is when you dont like yourself
devs said they were always twins
Ah rivalry. Maybe they were sick of always being referred to as "the twins"
they never « split »
Not as individuals
ohh
Back to two halves of a whole, but they've always been that way
here’s more pics of them and their arms
also can i mention they’re wearing tiny heals
They have class
wasteland uncle in training
also idk if this is important but they have ears
they can h e a r
Hmm... they they can talk? Or is every race presented in sky reliant on basic sounds and body language?
idk
there is a spoken language in the credits, we just don’t know who’s speaking it
possibly the elder or ancestor language
Could be the spirits
Umm.. megabird?
that’s a possibility too
Megabird sings?
Is megabird the one who sends us on the quest at the beginning if he/she can talk?
We also hear the singing at the beginning too..
also we hear prairie elder make noises, that’s the biggest hint we have that the elders were able to talk
i believe wl elder also makes noises
and also wasteland elder kind of makes noise ? i cant tell if it’s them grunting or if it’s just the sound of stabby
i havent been through the cutscenes recently
Words/ complex language like we hear in the song are different from basic sounds. Like sky kid honks and grunts
yeah
but sounds are the beginning to language
i think one of the reasons none of the characters in game have proper speaking lines is cause it’d ruin the immersion
and also narrow gender down more than the devs probably want it to be
True, I personally love that the game has no speaking lines. It also makes the base graphics and look easily understood across different cultures
that too
i don’t think the devs want to translate a script into 100+ languages and get voice actors for it all
i don’t think they can even afford that
But from a lore perspective it's fun to speculate on
Why there's a very limited use of language, even a made up one
*spoken / written language
(I was just thinking. So when we chat, do we talk or do we use telepathy?)
We honk whenever we send a message
We beep so I think it’s more of a connection
It’s just one that we can understand
(Most of the time)
Oohh. So honking is sky kid language I guess
Mhm
we're like geese. we just honk
(The chat system may have no standing on the lore - may be for us then anything to say on the sky kids 
ive been trying to make up an imaginary honk language
im having some difficulties tho 
I’d argue it shows the language
Hard to tell the line between game functionality and lore
Lol
Server merges are always mean to me..
I can never play with friends smoothly
do you guys wanna see the draft of the honk language...
yes
Yes please
- gets tossed into the void when they leave an area holding a friends hand*
im holding onto this 
still so much empty space, idk what to put there
Series of beeps = HELP hahaha
A repeated call is either help more, get over here, or what are you doing
deep call for memory = location of interest?
Manta call high: Krill are close
or just « aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa »
"Eeeeeeeee"
Manta low: I need some light
@lethal stump I like the footnote HAHAHA
yes, i’m writing this in the perspective of vault vault researching skids to make it more interesting
Deep calling can save lives
Welp 
Whale call high: Idk
Oh don't mind me, I'm just slowly taking in all the information (Lore moff here)
shower me with information, wise ones
@ruby cliff I'm also a lore moff, it's fun reading the theories here.
begin your journey with the pins, Maviee
i just lurk in here, trying to keep up with the chatlog
That is very specific
Oh and also, did you guys see the concept TGC posted about GW? The storyline tho
it made me go

So basically (I'm just trying to recall what I remember from the concept) The Elder was the last one standing in GW, half corrupted.
In the concept, the skids awaken him, and he rushes to defend them from the forces of darkness. He even wielded a large sword!
That would have been a fun/emotional path (not saying that GW rn is not good, izamazing), seeing that the Elder actually throws himself to the door, holding the creatures back.

Ugh I can’t find the picture
Ugh I can’t find the picture
@misty idol what is it about?
The last of the fighting force, lost in darkness, found hope and reignited his will to fight back the apocalypse for one last time.
this one?
that one!
That would have been epic
The picture was the one half sunken boat in grass in the cavern with a broken bell in the center from sanctuary islands and it had a tiny transparent glowing magenta cube inside one of the halves
I recently found where I saw the designs on that cube before
They were the same ones as the designs on the knowledge cubes in vault
:3
It bothers me that I can’t find the picture
The magenta cube was a bug.
Go slowly thru ur pic collection @misty idol i lose mine too
Someone rode the boat out of the Vault XD took it to Sanctuary and crashed it in the cavern
It doesn't count as lore, sadly 😔
I’ve gone through mine on this device
I gotta wait till the other one charges so I can look for it there
If it were, we can confirm the ancestors used tesseracts to fuel their power diamonds

All the screenshots that I have aren't for lore tho, but it's about chibis being disobedient and adult skids being parents
Lol
I had a thought that the cubes might’ve been for like gathering knowledge on a place
Like books?
I had a thought that the cubes might’ve been for like gathering knowledge on a place
@misty idol Just yeet the cube in the middle of prairie and everything gets automatically recorded
Sorta but it collects the knowledge itself
The cubes werent for gathering knowledge
Yes exactly @ruby cliff
Aren't they for storing?
That store the knolwedge
Yes
(Touch cube) - Cube turns into high tech screen showing all the info
What diamond cubes.

With a hole in the middle
That explains why there are a lot of lanterns scattered, or maybe those are different?
The things in vault
Ah
The big cubes with glyphs are just big boxes for the memory lanterns
Is there any info on why there’s gaping holes in that area btw?
The archive?
Mhm
Oh yeah, it seems broken
I can imagine the skids reading, smacking their faces to the lanterns
But it’s like krill sized holes

Can you show me a picture of the holes 
It could be that it degraded on it's own
Since the entrance to vault is not supposed to be there
Yeah and the memory lanterns on top are a bit scattered midair
Imma just ask, but every kingdom got ravaged by the darkness, right? even Vault?
Yeah
I think the vault that we visit is a memory of the place. The real vault is when we finish the elder cut scene and enter eden (my theory)
Yea
I just realised as well
Vault is the only realm that doesn't have darkness plants
I just see vault as this World Library
Bye Teth!
Every Lantern gets passed on here, gets stored for future generations
I saw something that said about the lamps being knowledge stored for future generations so i do think it has something to do with that
GW is still one of the most emotionally scarring places for me, because every time I pass through the rubble, I can imagine all the warriors running and honking, ready to push back the inevitable darkness, all being lead by the GW Elder.
Yes, those are just holes 
Worn down by time.
and only their souls remain
i've seen theories on the krills being the bones of the whale things
the archives weren’t meant for the public though, they were meant to be off-limits
If that was the case the first picture would not be a thing
Brick is here, our vault vault
That literally goes through walls
I would even bow down to one of the broken weapons or even pray at the broken shields and swords
It seems weird to be just worn by time...
And it has rubble on the other side as if it was forced out
as was said by Goober, the entrance decayed so we were able to get inside
And there are crabs there 
Decayed outwards?
that’s how Belonging Grandpa got in
golden wasteland makes me wonder if the krills were around at war times and if anyone got "krilled"
They’d just about have to have been
Oh yeah, they never mentioned krills
Look at the size of the spears
they only said creatures of darkness
yeah those are krills
Don’t forget their real name is Dark dragons
krills is basically a nickname for dark dragons
@lethal stump ooohh.. i didn't experience belonging.. so that's what happened..
Creatures of darkness arent limited to krills 
true
Krebs
it also applies to alef
Plants
Creatures of darkness isnt limited to krills
@kind bobcat yep. knew it.
Alef made the krill and crabs
If it was just Krills and krebs,
Sounds like goth sea food
Everyone would have just deep called and spammed play dead and the darkness would be defeate
alef had pet krills and treated them like his kids, no one can change my mind
d
Alef likes seafood-
Wait, if belonging grandpa only got in the vault through holes
How did the dragon mask guy get all the way up to vault 4f?
Or am I missing something
Well, he could've used the eleveator
Wait, is it bull mask or dragon mask?
Well, he could've used the eleveator
@kind bobcat practical
🙃
He is training to be a Kung Fu master
Any spirit that doesnt look like a scholar isnt supposed to be in vault
He kung fu'd his way in
Karate chopped the doors
Vault is restricted to most outsiders
He kung fu'd his way in
Karate chopped the doors
@sour grove Karate Kicked the elevator upwards
And the archives are restricted, even to scholars.
Then he probs just snuck in thus the mask
we know that the archives were restricted. We don’t know about all of vault
It's fOrBiDdEN kNowlEdGe
A P P L E
alef baby pics
Sky kid: * zooms through vault*
Sky kids are rebels tbh
Now i want to draw baby alef
Sky kids are rebels tbh
@half ridge Especially moffs
Ghosts of past scholars who weren’t even allowed on lvl 2: 
I'm imagining dragon mask guy sneaking in just to get some secret kungfu technique XD
- pink panther theme plays in back ground*
when we get to the top of vault, there’s what seem to be « hallways » leading away......i wonder what hidden knowledge is there......
Nah he’d be looking for some bell music
Remember brick, its all a big VR room 
Imagine if we could read the knowledge lanterns
vr knowledge
Imagine if we could read the knowledge lanterns
@misty idol And we read them by smacking our faces into the light
Lol
and run around with a lantern on our head
We read them by burning them
Vault of Knowledge™
Learn how to honk in VR
Projects a movie
Vault Vault is rich
she has an occulus rift
What if eden was just a simulation
Projects a movie
@misty idol Uses the Crystal in Elevator for the Projector
Vault is just a giant cinema XD
Imagine skids bringing home projectors and watching movies at home
Elder: Picks a documentary
Everyone else:
5 candles says it’s just movies of the elders doing dumb stuff like sky kids do
[ it’s hereditary ]

5 candles says it’s just movies of the elders doing dumb stuff like sky kids do
@misty idol Moff vids of Elders
1/4 of the collection is just the twins
Good night!
I'm in the middle of class rn
It's history class,
Sleep tight!
Nice
but I'd rather learn about Sky's history
Just gotta find the juicy stuff
He be covered in ash
Omg.
No, the king has one eye
Yoo where in eden did you take this?
or does he 
The king rests
After a while the fog cleared and got this amazing view of the first level of eden
Pic is higher quality but it limits the quality on disc upload
yoo what does the king do? im still not up to date with sky lore lmao
also where is that ;w;
oooh
Auto deletes in a month
Ooh I just realized
Look at that pipe like thing on the far left
That goes up the mountain and into the storm
Woah woah woah
This is big stuff
Look here
Those two pipes
Is that what provides power to the big diamond?? Or where the power goes to...🤔
Who is the main lore specialist in this channel?
We need help!!
I'm pretty new to it xD
What's that place
No need to put spoiler tag everything here is spoilers already
Oh ok
This channel already spoiler tagged🤣
Is that an area in Eden?
Yeah
Oh
I don't recall seeing it heh
Got that high via an oob
Oob Eden
I wanna go to eden and just walk around, there's a lot to uncover there...
I saw at some part in Eden there are birds flying into a pipe.🤔 I wonder why...
I saw at some part in Eden there are birds flying into a pipe.🤔 I wonder why...
They are going to eye of eden
From there to orbit
To complete their life cycle (i think)
What's the deal about the Diamond in Eden?
Yeah it seemed like it.
It's cracked
That's corrupted
I always thought of it as a flower
It's probably spouting corruption?
Like a giant pink tulip
the way it spews out light in a really ravaging manner
It's a good thing imo
A tulip spewing spores of dark crystals
And it's like trapped by the darkness
A tulip, trapped by darkness, spewing spores of dark crystalline shards
That's gonna be in my head for a while
That's why it's in the garden of Eden
Krills are hybrid bees actually.
Krills are but misunderstood, easily excited pets who like to hug us in very fast speeds
It's like hitting a wall while flying really fast, but the wall is the one flying instead.
Crabs are ants.
Any theories on the pipes?
Krills are krills 🦐
Any theories on the pipes?
@pale kestrel They said that GW was supposed to be the peak of industrial innovation
Those pipes might be leading into gw?





