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I've been considering making a system of files (or a blog) that go over plausible theories and ideas that are generally recognized as fanon, but as it stands, I'm still piecing it together and compiling evidence I find from others and in game and since I'm very new, I don't have a lot of the information veterans might have off the cuff.
Basically, I want to see if I can collaborate a doc that's always updating that gives new people a tour of the fanon, canon, and fun ideas. Explains what many theorize is megabird, king, prince, skids, vocabulary, ect.
is there a system to this chat? People who are responsibility for collecting and compiling data for the lore? Experts on the canon? Someone or ones who vet and verify evidence ingame or otherwise?
@compact olive
I kinda feel like a wiki model may be better? Wikis tend to be more searchable
So, yesterday (I think), there was a conversation about what happened with the 'Cry Spirit'.
It was a mining accident, not a flood.
The official spirit name stands as 'Miner', that explains the pickaxes when they were trying to save other 'Forest citizens/people'
You're getting close to Brick and Syd's theory
And you should know, that one lead to in-dm angst
I kinda feel like a wiki model may be better? Wikis tend to be more searchable
@short owl
That might be a good idea. Right now I'm just working on a drafting faze, and hoping to build up a small community of like minded over time after I prove to others, and myself, that I'm pretty committed to sky and it's lore.
It's not something that'll kick off right away, obvs. It'll be a little while, and someone might do it before me. (And by all means, I welcome it. I just noticed there's a need in this fledgeling ecosystem of sky)
It's just, it's hard for newbs and moths to get in to the lore stuff because the only place to find lore are discord discussions, missing livestreams, and Google docs that are kind hard to pick through.
Poor Cry and also: dies in cave -> causes kingdomwide revolt
@winged gazelle I could try to help you for that goal if there is anything I can do.
Right now, I've been compiling screenshots. Murals, constellations, archetecture, regional.
I want all the lore I gather friendly to this discord so I'm avoiding file scrubs, oob, and other things that shouldnt he spoken of.
I'm thinking of organizing it by the few major theories, providing the evidence, additions, and of course credit to those who chalked up the idea.
@prime pasture honestly, I'll need all the help I can get! I'd love your help.
Right now, I need screenshots. Anyone else who might be interested, feel free to DM me.
(not screenshots, but in game stuff. I don't want to screenshot texts without permission from the person who posted it.)
I KNEW those mural screenshots would be useful one day heh
@prime pasture
Absolutely. Anything you might have and deem useful.
Also, bear in mind, I've been playing three weeks maximum. Some things that might be obvious to you guys will be asked by me lol.
It's just, being stupidly organized and compiling this kind of information is just kinda my niche. I used to run a Conan and Zelda theory server.
You say that like that's a detrement
You'll be more likely to remember that people don't know things
Like what the Megabird is
(Probably should mention that they will be called Megan even though the name shows up absolutely nowhere in the actual lore)
I generally try to have patience and take the time to explain things to newer folk. I had to do that on my other servers, so it's just kinda second nature now.
But I've also run in to my fair share of abrasive responses regarding new theories others are more familiar with. It doesn't bother me, but I remember that not everyone wants to engage with new faces, so I try to be aware.
I do appreciate it though. This community has been relatively friendly all around. (and I figured Megan was a magabird meme name but no one explicitly told me)
I've been olaying for like 7 months by august I think lol
@prime pasture
Sweet, it explains why you know as much as you do lol. You'll be able to help me a bit more than google regarding seasonal events (though their canonicity is in question.)
"does the original concept timeline still stand?"
@mortal viper no it’s not canon anymore
It might not be entirelly canon, but parts of it may have been kept in the game
I would love to know which if any ! So that gives us a better more specific question : «which if any parts of the timeline are still canon?»
Eden has an elder yep, who is heavily implied to be the king
But ya know you cant save him at this point
Its been a hot minute since i've been here, whats new
I've been considering making a system of files (or a blog) that go over plausible theories and ideas that are generally recognized as fanon, but as it stands, I'm still piecing it together and compiling evidence I find from others and in game and since I'm very new, I don't have a lot of the information veterans might have off the cuff.
Basically, I want to see if I can collaborate a doc that's always updating that gives new people a tour of the fanon, canon, and fun ideas. Explains what many theorize is megabird, king, prince, skids, vocabulary, ect.
@compact olive
@winged gazelle how do we get you the information you seek? (I am on the same path as you)
@mortal viper no it’s not canon anymore
@hollow pier jisama San, what happened to make it no longer canon?
Hahahaha oh hahaha jiisama san makes me laugh; it’s like saying Excuse me Mr Mr Knight Knight
My memory failed me, I thought it was clearly non canon in more places than I remembered
I can only find these examples
- They’re flying boats without dark stone
- Look how different the elders look

@compact olive
Right now? Anything! Like I said, I've been here three weeks and I can only pick up so much through osmosis and my own picture collection lol.
Now, I want to work within the community guidelines of the server, so file scrubs and other things that should not be named I won't be able to include in public discussions. (That doesn't mean it doesn't interest me, but for the database stuff, everything that's out in the open will be things that moths can find.)
So, screenshots of constellations, murals, anything interesting you find will be included.
also, I don't think the Ferryman Ancestor played as prominent as a role in-game as it did in concept art
Honestly, I had a really dumb moment yesterday at 3 am while doing a picture run (where I run around taking pics of interesting things.)
And like... I'm in the isle of dawn, and I'm like, "holy crud, there's a lot of boat imagery here! Why is that?"
It took me a half hour to remember that isle of dawn is dedicated to the ferryman. Wasn't my brightest moment, and now I have a bunch of pictures of boats.
I heard timeline talk and I couldn’t resist
we don't see these in Sky at all
@cold steppe the text there is probably canon even if that creature isn’t
that's fair
Maybe the ferryman is the narrator?
First of all, in the timeline
Eden and the night level didn’t exist yet, darkstone is incorporated different, there’s no dark elder creatures around the mountain, the king isn’t a huge dude trapped in the storm throwing spears anymore, and there wasn’t a battle of creatures
Ooo I’m late
never too late though
it could be a possibility that one of the elders is the narrator
it would definitely make more sense for the Isle elder to be the narrator
as we start in Isle
I was taking screenshots of the drawings on the ark ( forgotten ark) to try to understand the story
Here’s all the current theories about the narrator so far
The king
The prince
Brick
The child of light
The megabird
A spirit who supported the elders and wanted them back home
You
The vault elder
Oreo
And the isle elder
xD
It's okay, we all saw it
Cuz they won’t get it 😭

Should have tagged him, although that might count as doxxing and he might get spammed.
Oof
you mean cold pinging?
I put it all back
doxxing is releasing personal info like location
Oh
thanks
Incoming ark doodles
❤️
@tender dune
Do you mind if I snag these? If I use them, I'll be sure credit will be provided to you.
Yee
Take em
I got more zoomed pics for some if u want me to send
((Wat is English anymore))
Honestly, anything you find interesting in the world, I will take. Idk if you saw, but...
I've been considering making a system of files (or a blog) that go over plausible theories and ideas that are generally recognized as fanon, but as it stands, I'm still piecing it together and compiling evidence I find from others and in game and since I'm very new, I don't have a lot of the information veterans might have off the cuff.
Basically, I want to see if I can collaborate a doc that's always updating that gives new people a tour of the fanon, canon, and fun ideas. Explains what many theorize is megabird, king, prince, skids, vocabulary, ect.
I want to make a database. So, feel free to dm me anything that you might find useful of relevant.
Same here. I've been building quite a collection... but way more duds because I keep missing my target and it's just my skykid slamming into something lol
Like edens door. Why does it have 5 faces (I've only realised it now when looking at the pic)
That has 6 faces
Im blind lol
Yeah i only see 5
Isle was just a tutorial level in early beta
Just like the amount of flames down
And the door is from old beta
I know the rebirth door is supposed to look pretty (and it does) but the fact that i keep thinking that its megabirbs eye kinda intimidates me xD
And there are the veins
Yeah
Going into the pupil
Maybe it's
oh, interesting
The details show up more when you walk further inside
I've never heard that interpretation of the eye
Oooo spooky
makes sense though
Megan has one eye👁️
Or 2
and if two, where is the other one
One in our reality and the other in another reality
Cursed eye
similar to how the megabird in the concepts sends the skykids down to retrieve memories or smth 
and the path leading to it are tears 🤔
where's Hage? I think they might enjoy this
Isn't Megan little up from that path

Like if u notice as you go up the bench while looking at the door. The (moon?) Nyooms upwards fast
if we're going by the constellation, yes, megabird is further up
When we look at up we see her face
oh, I have a video of the moon rising
Maybe its just for design but yeh
That's sun
I think it's the moon
Here's the moon video
https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/632004389137154048/669391881301655559
Ty
here's the last place you can see the megabird constellation
https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/632004389137154048/669390549127659530
before you go into the portal
Megan
no
So cool
Next eden run i shall scavenge the whole place
I wanna screenshot so badly but my game crashes 
megan!! megan!!
I feel like that's sun
Cuz after you enter the Disney land moon disappears
Orbit may be the moon
Because after you die, the sun comes out
The moon does orbit the world
Orbit is in megan
to fit with the sort of night-time look, I think it's the moon
@tender dune
I've been needing to do an edan run too, tbh. It makes me nervous because I have the coordination of a toddler with no thumbs.
Meaning, that things will get better after you die
whoa
Eyeball!
Here's the moon from Wasteland
https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/632004389137154048/719332830009753720
oh yeah, this eye theory has potential
That's oob wren
you know, we enter the eye of Eden too
@winged gazelle eden runs are easy for me (solo, im a bad eden uber).
But like im angry after the sanctuary update my game got all glitchy and crashes esp if i wanna screenshot

you can see the moon/sun/eyeball/discoball thing through the holes in the clouds, its most easily seen in forgotten ark
Ouch
you can see the moon/sun/eyeball/discoball thing through the holes in the clouds, its most easily seen in forgotten ark
@unborn fog :0
I think i saw that but forgot about it
I've only run 1.5 times. (First time I was shaking so bad I couldn't control. That's anxiety though.) And my first full run was an uber who didn't take the sight seeing route 
we should take an Eden sightseeing trip as a group some time

Lol i was a moth in this pic but, eden is so huge
I 100% support that
I dont mind
Kinda neat detail, but I don't think you can see the storm until after you've passed Edan once.
Over there is a krill and over here quickly approaching on your left, are some rocks
Field trip to Eden
The rocks are easy. Its a rhythm game
M o o d
The krills there are sometimes immune to my death spamming
Theory time!
Death spamming works in Eden? 
If we go as a group, it might solve Teth's picture problem for now. They can honk to point out things they want pictures of and we can snap some for them.
Maybe spirits have tried to cheat death in Eden and so the krill are immune to it
Awh. Call me ginko hahaha
Teth is just a nickname for @/ Resh (wherever he is)
What's your preferred name? So I can update them in the file.
Ginkomimi
Got it lol.
xD
What if krills are the protectors of the peace? You know the saying there is good in every bad and bad in every good? What if the ones before us disrupted the peace. So in order to wipe them out Krills were sent ?
Accidentally delates a whole file when trying to rename it ;-;
Interesting
Thanks!
Your welcome
well, it may be so, like with crabs
Now, who could have sent the krill!?🤔
The gods
My theory was that the krills were used by the king (before diamond went kaboom) as guards. But after diamond went kaboom they be chilling there
Now, who could have sent the krill!?🤔
@static spoke maybe there was so much light there that they went to eat it?
It is yummy diamond power/light
Yes!

And that is why the krill love to eat us
What if the red rocks that fall from the sky makes the krills bad?
You know how they drain our light?
Yeah
The rename option shouldn't be so close to delete ;-;
And yeah, I thought the krill would have more to meet the eye too! In Journey, the monsters in that game were created by the ancient civilization out of greed, but greed isn't the themes of this story so I don't think they would recycle that concept.
I'm torn. Thematically, it's a story that's about defying what's natural in the world to obtain power (at least, that's what I'm picking up on.) From the edan theories, and the theories of king.
So, in my mind, they can be two things. A) They're a natural byproduct of the diamond, and the krill came to return balance to the world. In a world of extremely bright light, there's going to be very dark shadows.
B) They were created intentionally to retain power by those who support or oppose king.
Or what if the krill only listen to their master, but then they died and so now no one controls them
Probs
What if the krills are trying to stop us from going to Eden || and literally dying ||
there's also the concept timeline idea where the krill and other dark creatures were light creatures that got caught up in the storm of Eden
Yeah :0
And look where that got them
I mean take a manta
And make go to Eden
What will that do to it?
But their forms aren’t same
In the last lore discussion we were talking about the elders names and such. I know the elders right now have no canon name. But the old name meanings had a slight relation to them (esp the king and prince name meanings)
Mantas are so fragile
What if the krills are trying to stop us from going to Eden || and literally dying ||
@winged topaz
That's an option. But it's a bit counter productive to beat the crud out of kids until all of their light is gone before they go to edan and getting the crud kicked out of them until all of their light is gone.
I mean, our goal is to restore wl to those who remain in edan, if the krill had good intentions, why would they stop us from bringing light to those who fell to the darkness?
Exactly what I was thinking
Because they are dumb?
🤔
I think you have beef with krill @winged topaz xD
Like literally they only saw that kids who go there dies so don’t go there
But why would they take our light from us?
I think they're just animals, like the crabs
It's certainly an option worth considering. It's obvious there's more to the krill than meets the eyes, so it's a logical idea.
I imagine it hurts quite a bit
I mean i met some crabs that are chill until i honk. Once they see a little honk light they get angryyyy
H o n k of b o n k
Ouch
Nah im cool with them hahah i enjoy fighting the crab horde
They never attack me
I really think the Elders did something bad . If they didn’t why would their spirits still be stuck in this world?

I mean, do you. But when I get cocky I crash so much that I end up loosing light so I don't play the risky game. ;-;
hello Jay
I think they are trying to lead us to make up for their mistakes
All the elders contributed to taking light creatures and turning them into power diamonds for the king
Keep in mind, not every ancestor’s spirit is present for us to relieve
There must be a reason why some spirits are handpicked and able to have their memories relived

All the elders contributed to taking light creatures and turning them into power diamonds for the king
@tender dune
I mean, did they?
All the elders contributed to taking light creatures and turning them into power diamonds for the king
@tender dune
Ooo, that gives me an idea tho
Isle elder is missing from there
@hushed steeple might correlate why his face is the only one broken entirely
Yesh-ish
I feel like the lost souls in the eden are test subjects. Like the King send them to test the power of the storm
Did they do the king’s bidding on their own free will or were they forced?
Forced
I feel like the lost souls in the eden are test subjects. Like the King send them to test the power of the storm
@winged topaz
Or they were an accidental power source. And out of remorse, their light was scattered through the land for us to collect and allow them to move on so they aren't trapped in the storm for eternity...
From what i understand in the story (my theory rn based on what ppl said here and what i saw)
- prarie: butterfly farming for light power [they're placed in pots]
- forest: turning light pots into diamonds by mixing light [the flame we see in the cutscene with something else]
- wasteland: the diamonds are powered there [probs why its now a wasteland and dead area]
-eden: was the capital, now its the core of where everything ended
Phew
Maybe stuck souls. We see lost souls throughout the land and those are kind of emotes and junk.
I think in order to ascend, they need to fly. I think the kids in edan are actually trapped.
;-;
U mean the stone statues?
I strongly believe that Krills are the protecters of peace. They were only in the places where was highly populated or the king was . For example look at the first places we see in the game .
The spirits are lost souls.
The statues are the accidental powersource who's spirits are stuck in the storm and needs winged light to escape and ascend.
The winged light is used to help them escape because the statues don't have the power to get out.
Thank you!
Oo
There's a flame in intro👀
Sorry, sometimes I prioritize speed over efficiency.
@winged topaz
Or they were an accidental power source. And out of remorse, their light was scattered through the land for us to collect and allow them to move on so they aren't trapped in the storm for eternity...
@winged gazelle
But we see them every time we go to Eden. So they are still trapped. Right?
I strongly believe that Krills are the protecters of peace. They were only in the places where was highly populated or the king was . For example look at the first places we see in the game .
@winged topaz
That's a possibility. But I also have to point out that the races don't have any krill anywhere in the track. And when I slowed down yesterday and took some pictures, the racetrack actually used to be a metropolis. We're racing through abandoned alleyways and streets of what once was a bustling city.
Darkness came and the stars fell..
Yay!
Flame👀
A flame without candle
Oh i wanna see that
We race down steps first, sort of like a massive building for meetings is the start of the race.
I have a bunch of picture examples if you can hold a min.
I shall slow race next time, sometimes im too fast i lose light
@winged topaz
That's a possibility. But I also have to point out that the races don't have any krill anywhere in the track. And when I slowed down yesterday and took some pictures, the racetrack actually used to be a metropolis. We're racing through abandoned alleyways and streets of what once was a bustling city.
@winged gazelle
What if the krills just didn’t get there yet?
Yeah, and it could also follow the timestamp theory where these portals are different points in time.
Also dont we start (first world) in the morning and end (vault) at night?
Yeah, and it could also follow the timestamp theory where these portals are different points in time.
@winged gazelle
I’ve never heard that theory before! Mind blown
Does it mean it takes us a day to complete all that? :0
It would also explain why so many places don't have time cycles.
Maybe krills were made to out stand the storm by being forced to leave all their light so they turn in to the Krills we now today?

it seems like the krill and crabs have some sort of corruption. We can see it by the black specks of something on them (the krill actually shed them as they fly)
That's why im thinking maybe it took us a day to reach eden
Some pictures of clear alleyways.
the crabs in Sanctuary that don't attack don't have the specks of black
ooh, nice pics
A lab experiment gone wrong and turned the krill into what they are today
The lab would be in Wasteland
Main street

Or news stand
I still have to go through and get some of the flying races, but a lot of similarities.
Flying race so annoying I can't take pics looking back xD
My theory is that after the elders fell, a lot of the land just fell from the sky and hit the ground.
The elevation between the top of the races, and the coliseum changes drastically from snowy tundra to just dessert.
Because we killed them
I think they're darkness? Corrupted
And that is the last bit of good in them
Oh oh someone said that the plants are (corruption?) From the spirits. Like how one of the crying spirits friend had plants growing on em
^theory
Some examples.
I think, after falling from the sky, the region they fell in would be too harsh for plants.
One more pic to note, to kind of add to my "fell from the sky" theory
i just got here, what did i miss ?
Lots
A lot resh
The scattered peaks of buildings are found around the colosseum.
oh boy do tell
Hahaha
A lab experiment gone wrong and turned the krill into what they are today @lethal stump
Well, for one thing, the races used to be a bustling city scape and not a race track, with the pictures I provided for evidence.
I was saying that maybe the rebirth door was megabirbs eye (it looks like one)
so uh. the coli is, infact, in orbit
also theres statues of vault
and King Propaganda
Need a little help. Has anyone seen this or something similar to this in game at all? If so can I get a screenshot or a clear location as to where they saw it?
There's
I saw a pic like that before entering office door
#lore-discussion-spoilers message@compact olive
In ||office||
@static spoke yeah, I was hoping for something not near that area.
🤦♂️
RIP
@static spoke no need to spoiler tag anything here^^
Whew
I have this
Thank goodness
Was looking for something else
Spoiler tagging is annoying
Checking your link @hushed steeple
If I spot anything in more lore friendly areas, I'll snag a pic and send it to ya @compact olive
I've been combing landscapes anyways, with as much courage I can muster that is lol.
🧱 are you here?
I guess not
yes i am
🤦♂️
why
are there more runes ?
I noticed something
The current intro cutscene is different from what is pinned here
it
it is ?
Yeah
- screams *
I've video
time to get a new phone to play sky again from the beginning
oh ?
I don’t know what to make of this
@hushed steeple thank you for those images. But I was hoping for something in the Sky world (not office). The difference between the office image is that the prince/king is on a boat surrounded by mega bird. The image I’m looking for is the king surrounded by the creatures/life cycle . I now know this is the closest thing we have in office
interesting........
like the one in rebirth ?
Maybe👀
I believe that’s a glitch but the opening mural comes from the distant island at home
The fire is for lighting


😂
Isn't the intro cutscene on youtube?
Well. I gotta sleep unfortunately but tag me on interesting stuff so i read them in the morning😔
Ok
Okee dokee ^~^
Pines actually discovered it
Oh snap
woah how do you oob there ?!
How to go there
...I jus said pines found it
Wait you can find stuff up on the higher parts?!
But like I said, it’s the distant island u see at the Homespace
Please tell me too !,
There's wind
Homespace is kind of a weird place tbh
How do we all get there?
How do you oob that scene ?
I believe she used the classic table glitxh which is extremely hard to do bc of the wind
Do tell.
What interests me is that there’s some parts of the mural that aren’t on the intro
Conspiracy time!
But like I said, it’s the distant island u see at the Homespace
@sly kestrel It is possible to go there????
I want to go there🥺
I believe I answered all ur questions already
Pines used the table glitch to get there, and this is the distant island u see at the homespace
I don’t know how to get there personally
Bruh i was gonna go now im too excited to sleep
I’m not that good at table glitching
i wanna go there
I wish u the best of luck 
Which kind of table glitch?
The wind is worse then eden there 
I lack table and intend to get a cape I will never wear before I fix that
Where is that place?
I jus told you
Home

Poor Jay
“When” do you table glitch ?
50 hearts left to summon the twins
Sorry Jay
So many questions
I'll try this tmrw with my friend, i dont have a table but i got something else to experiment
Using a bonfire makes it 1000000 times harder so don’t try that
the problem with only one person reaching an area is it could be an edit but given the quality of the ss it’s highly unlikely
@tender dune
Tag me when you do, I wanna know how it goes.
Gotchu fam
“When” do you table glitch ?
Wdym when?
Do u mean “how”
Cuz that’s hard to explain
And personally I’m still bad at it
During cutscene, when at home while people are running around? During orbit ?
So if I’m in valley I can just glitch with my table and get there?
it’s an oob in home, you need to be at home
Nono, u do the table glitch at home
It’s over there
is it the table glitch like how Butter does it on his yt channel ?
yeah, he did Valley on a table
and wasteland
and forest
we’re hoping he does eden next 

Butter posts their video links in #promote-your-sky-content a lot
I dunno who that is but i shall learn
🧈
Wren, do u know what’s the exact name of his channel on top of ur head or....
Butter changed their icon so they are no longer 🧈
no, I don't
but let me go look
it's called Butter Hoarder, if I got the right Butter
Butter Hoarder
I saw him sharing a link to his latest Tbale video when it was first out
Table*
here’s a question for you lot: what were the realms called in the time of the ancestors
•-•
well, wasteland had to be called something before it was destroyed
although i suppose that’s more hc territory
i imagine that GW was called « golden sands » or « golden desert » before it was a wasteland, but like u said it’s a HC
It’s called golden wasteland, but it’s arguable that it wasn’t a wasteland before
So it was prolly called
golden
Is this lore

no
I'm not sure it was golden at all. Most of the gold seems to be sands from destruction.
....I was joking
I have updated my lore doc so there’s better formatting, I never realised how INCONSISTENT it had gotten
the canon lore doc ? or the theories ?
Kukubi, if you decide to go with a wiki, can it be somewhere where randos can at least suggest edits? I can't maintain it, but I do have pics of stuff on my phone already
Perfect timing, @short owl Null lol.
And yes, it'll likely be somewhere that will have a comments section if I can help it, and I'm also making a spot where people can submit work they're putting in. Kind of a draft area. But, feel free to DM me anything you have that you want to contribute for now.
i know but i didn’t know it was gonna be a wiki, i just thought it would be a document
@lethal stump
Yeah, earlier today I was talking about starting a database or a wiki.
My intentions are to basically build up a database where there are clear lines between conjecture, fanon, and dev approved canon. That way when new people join, they don't have to read through outdated docs that are defunct (and then finding out they're defunct later), and veterans have a reference point.
It would also hold common vocab words, meme words, commonly understood concepts, and a place where we can guess the translations of murals.
using fandom wiki (the site that the current sky wiki is) might be worth looking at !
i would be glad to contribute my linguistic findings !
using fandom wiki (the site that the current sky wiki is) might be worth looking at !
@lethal stump
That's what @hollow pier said as well. And please. I was actually really hoping you'd want to be involved in this. You, and anyone else who's interested in joining, feel free to dm me.
wh wren had a message and it disappeared
I DM'd it to kukubi
ohhh
as it was a better fit for the DM
ok 👍
it might be best to put it on the site of the current sky wiki as it will be easy to reference
are we able to edit the official wiki ?
it looks like you can edit the wiki if you have an account
let me ask a friend of mine who regularly updates the wiki
the wiki is fan-made. it's not run by TGC
friend said all you need is an account
ooo

Sorry resolution is already very small for original Tom Zhao image
yes but im confused about the different images
Which ones should I clarify? I can adjust them if needed
so I was speaking to some of the Sky wiki contributors, and they said it may be best to start our own wiki as the official one is more for confirmed information and not as much for speculation
It’s not the original timeline, Oz. Is this your headcanon ?
These are the first 2 images (nothing changed, words exactly the same) on Tom Zhao’s website concept art. The pictures below are from the game
What about the captions ?
My captions save for the “you’re about to be reborn” the captions are to clarify what’s happening in the images.
and what does that have to do with the timeline ?
The in game viewable places seem to depict the essence of the original timeline.
I’m nowhere near done. I’m working on the next two images in the time line in the era of fire
okay
Gn
So every elder in the intro is connected to a constilation AND has ancestors tied to stars EXCEPT the Eden Elder (aleph/king/prince/us/etc)
Why isn't the center elder shown as connected to a constilation?
Wait
Theres an eden elder?
yes there is an eden elder
Is there a pic?
Is this an idea that was scrapped?
it's implied that the eden elder is the king
but he isn't around to be saved anymore like how we save the elders
Ah
also null, i was thinking it was because the eden elder took a different from the other elders so eden elder/king didn't descend as the form they were originally in
which i think was the CoL
that's why i think the line doesn't exactly start from the child of light in the middle of the intro if i got what you were saying correct??
I'm talking before the fall begins, when the elders are tied to their constellations
We don't see a crown in the beginning if I remember correctly
But we do see the staff, the crossed paddles, the jar, the shield, and the memory container
is it because we are all the eden elder
the real eden elder was the friends we made along the way ✨
Oh are there any theories on the extra constellations that aren’t tied to temples? (Manta, cape, the little odd one that’s scattered around)
the mini constellations you see around in areas like prairie are from beta
i think the eden constellation could have been formed only when skids started existing, the friendship constellation does match the crown/eden constellation in vault mural
Are you sure it’s a crown and not a castle?
before the mural is fully revealed you'll see the constellations
and before eden's mural is like fully seen it starts off as a crown
Mm
Theres an eden elder?
I also only known for there to be the elders we see in the cutscenes. But also what about that building in the sky in the intro cutscene?
that's disneyland/eden

as in the floating castle?
oooo that’s cool
That's a nice timeline 
Oooh
help me brick, i'm slowly becoming indifferent from lore
what does that mean
Also you know when you die in eden dosen’t your body stay in eden for other sky kids to give you light?
i am becoming lore'nt
oh noooooo
I think our bodies dont stay in eden
@eternal ocean they could light you up. but the rocks will still get you eventually
Since it actually shatters when we die
You can't just chill in eden forever
Yeah true but then what is the bodies in eden?
there must be a reason as to why they stay there but our bodies shatter to only reincarnate
Dead kids that didnt shatter maybe?
the blueish statues are the actual children of light or winged light that we've been collecting. wl is just their imprints, we give it back to give them life
There are statues in the last zone that crumble away
@kind bobcat I reccomend engaging in elder nonsense. That helps to keep excitement for lore up, since the idea of Tsadi blushing over tiny cupcakes is cute
uHH, i fOrGot ThE ElDEr NaMeS
Tsadi's the spirit I have the most problem characterizing but that's cute 
Isle: Daleth (ד)
Prairie: Aylin (ע)
Forest: Teth (ט)
Valley: Samekh (ס)
Wasteland: Tsadi (צ)
Vault: Lamed (ל)
Prince/Not Corrupt King: Alef (א)
Corrupt King: Resh (ר)
Thanks brick
welc
It's also hilarious to imagine Teth being so used to the twins carefully removing the centers of the cakes Aylin makes (so as not to disturb the decorations) that they just bluescreen when the twins leave their cake alone
@lethal stump Is it Aylin or ayin????
I see an l so I use the l
hmm, interesting bc the Hebrew letter is Ayin 
It's not you null I was just curious if that was an alternate spelling haha
I wonder one thing like the mantas in praire just come out of the clouds. Where were they or did they just suddenly appear?
Maybe they're let out as skykids enter similar to the butterflies at prairie temple
Oh yeah...
Something about the light skykids carry...
@short owl
Megan is my-
N-name-

The megabird got named Megan after a typo
Meganbird
Well concept art does say “her” when referring to megabird.... maybe she likes the name Megan?
Oh yeah ya know the place where you go to the afterlife where you meet a bunch of spirits, creatures and children etc they all form into one big all. What’s up with that?
We be heavy and that's how they hold us up and also it's easier to see?
yeah that
ah yes
eye pain
It might imply that megabird is at the center of the universe and that she’s a white hole (as opposed to a black hole) ?
I always thought of the darkness as creatures who used to be normal until a significant event turned them into darkness
That hate the light
Eye of Eden storm?
But in wasteland there’s krills around must’ve been something that made krills to form in places
Wasteland is very close to Eden
Yeah but ya know the elder spirit is like a warrior and must’ve had to of battled some sort of being
when it comes to krill it’s a free for all. we don’t know anything about them aside from they attack us and are dark creatures
and the emotes that involve in wasteland are kinda skeptical
Yeah but ya know the elder spirit is like a warrior and must’ve had to of battled some sort of being
@eternal ocean have you seen the first shield in wasteland ?
So uh, weird headcannon, but forest elder has to have a umbrella somewhere right
May be a "had" by now
Yeah
@eternal ocean have you seen the first shield in wasteland ?
@compact olive Wait have i been blind...?
So uh, weird headcannon, but forest elder has to have a umbrella somewhere right
@bleak basin she’s the “Thor” of Sky, she’s so bad @$$ that the rain avoids her entirely, each rain drop screaming “ohh nooooo!!” As it mistakenly gets too close to her.
LMAO
@compact olive Wait have i been blind...?
@eternal ocean I used to have a screenshot but no more. Had to empty a lot of photos, have you seen it? The first shield?
Bu like in their concept art she haf a umbrella
i imagine her hair is so thick she just doesn’t need to worry about an umbrella lol
Lmao
i know when i had long hair like hers, rain would never reach my head
In my experience, that does little but delay it
Water seeps through hair
Well thats.for us
Since we dont know abou how the hell elders hairs work
Elder hairs are made out of clay
w h a t
how do they do the movey movey
Stop motion animation? @lethal stump
sky isn’t stop motion though
Again the emotes in wasteland are like Fainting emote; Scared emote; a stance that seems to be about being weary of surroundings; a lost emote; another stance emote; an emote (ya know... soldier like emote with the hand flicking off the head)... im not sure but im thinking something during that time happened for the emotes to turn out like that
sky isn’t stop motion though
@lethal stump 😆 I know lol
yeah but there’s a difference between skids moving and hair moving
During that time it seems thats when krills formed too
there was a battle, Japanese name i can’t read

Maybe a battle with some krills?
Again the emotes in wasteland are like Fainting emote; Scared emote; a stance that seems to be about being weary of surroundings; a lost emote; another stance emote; an emote (ya know... soldier like emote with the hand flicking off the head)... im not sure but im thinking something during that time happened for the emotes to turn out like that
@eternal ocean go see the first shield in wasteland
yeah
It’s pierced and broken by a..... another spear
Yep
there might’ve been krills involved, but it wasn’t a battle against krills
Krills learned to make spears 😆
Okie
That visual has me cracking up
2... well thats a start
and they dont have those partixles.stuck on.them
What i am assuming is just krills.diet
Flip it self up
I made a crab from violent to calm and friendly
oh? i see..
h o w
But my evidence is shaky at best....
Did.u burn it in.fire
Here....
He's the great wizard of oz afterall
He stopped attack us when I brought him to the nice crabs
HMMMN
Probably more than once he had to lift them up after they fell down
Flip crab with deep call
Grab crab
Piggy back with friend
Have friend fly you to location
ahh

That’s why it’s not good evidence
True
I have to get picture with all crabs in one shot or video next time
Cause the diffrence between the crabs is pretty obvious
But I do have 3 eye witness
Since the hostile ones have particles sticked on.them
Tho do the krills have those particles is another question in it self
Since their eyes are normally blue after all..
Ever wondered who the person in the intro that said “wake up child. Bring our lost stars home” is.
Peaceful krill

Prob mega birb
Megabird probably
🌝
B I R B
People also speculate its the king
Yeah i think so too
Idk
😔 👌
If you deep to knock a crab over, can an elder spirit’s deep call knocked over a krill?
NO
Yes they have Particles too
Lmao
HMMMN
WHAT IS THAT
krill in ||office|| that's currreessed
lets not.talk about halloween.event.then
Now I can’t stop seeing the image of the forest elder screeching to knocked over a krill
LMAK
Also
If black was the krills.normal color
Would it.make.sence?
Since they do absorb light
lets not.talk about halloween.event.then
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lemme warn u there were krills
Because they don't reflect any I think
Can Krills be more related to monsters than animals
Cause thats where the darkness had formed
hmmn
True
I think darkness.is everywhere honestly
Since the hidden cave forest is pretty dark in certain aread
Since crabs are almost found everywhere

Also when we die in eden there is the particles i believe?
Sticked on to us
Probibly because of th2 rock rain
Ima just guess wastelands darkness plants are sorta wrecking krills
Since that is everywhere in wasteland
Hey anyone know why there’s fishie scales on the belltowers before you revive them? Could it be, like, darkness but moss?
I haven't seen those
I think its the new metal texture
Oh those im not sure either
Those scales are on the home statues at the ark and sanctuary
Prob new texture
I also think it's a texture bug
The fishie scale thingies are probably sky's charge effect
We also see it when our capes are charging
Long ago there used to be kingdom of sky. There used to be majestic immortal dragons roaming freely. Their scales had magical powers that helped then to fly. Then came people who tried to hunt down these dragons for their scales. The people somehow managed to use those scales to make flying capes. People soon started hunting down more and more dragons. And after all the dragons were deskined they were thrown into a desert with endless storms. Soon the dragons lost their sanity and kept roaming there screaming for help.
Can Krills be more related to monsters than animals
@sweet dirge got something for ya

Elders killed them
The krill in concept art were originally “Elder Creatures” who sacrificed themselves in Eden and came out of the storm like shrivels dark soulless things
Yeah, Tsadi was even a warrior (some say against the "invading" dark dragons)
that looks a lot like the cosmic whale
that looks a lot like the cosmic whale
@hollow orbit it is the concept art for the elder which IS supposed to be the cosmic whale

Okie
Now what?
Gosh, this channel was blowing up while I was away and now it’s not.😆
can we talk about whAt skykids are?
-They don't have to breathe
-Are the only ones with capes
-Only things beside creatures of light that can fly
The main thing is, they're the only things that can fly...they look like elders or spirits but have this unique ability
i like to believe that krills, and all dark/light creatures, are natural, since they makeup the « rich ecosystem » of light and dark that the devs confirm the sky world was
I think that we are the embodiment of light
I think of skykids as an invasive species sometimes
And that is why in Wasteland, we suffer because it is dark there
And the water cannot be penetrated by light
Thus, we cannot survive in it
OOO OOO were skykids created by creatures of light? not just megabird, did all the other stuff help/inspire their creation?
they're like a fusing of spirit and creature
+
=
I’m sure everyone is proud
Their hard work makes a moth
And that moth immediately gets 
but they will learn
there's a couple fan stories sprinkled throughout the channel, but I think most fan stories would be in #sky-fanart-sketches-and-art-chat
😆
I’m a moth on this discord haha
i just got on, i missed a lot 
I just found more evidence that victory valley was once in the sky and clouds but fell to the ground
Victory valley?
Uhm. Hold on. Valley of triumph. I've been up since 4 am and it's 6 pm. Bear with me.
Insomnia is beneficial for lore hunting

insomnia and your leftover brain cells
Absolutely.
It could have been in the mountains. But I have reason to believe a lot of the buildings were airborne too
Yes, valley had flying buildings
For the wealthy.
I think the flying race was actually a highway for boats and a lot of it was occupied by residential buildings
we just haven’t seen them in game.........yet
most likely yes
Because buildings dont just get built on the clouds 
<3 I'm glad I'm not the only one in the headspace.
@lethal stump go to oob and you will see them 
unless power diamonds make em float 
Sky construction be kinda trippy 
It makes sense res
Either way, I think since the fall of sky, the world is slowly sinking to the ground, is what I find pretty interesting.
That's why the flying race is full of debris 
can i say we’re judging the ability for things to float on clouds in a game universe where star people were kicked out by a heavenly bird and created a kingdom with funky diamonds with compressed light inside
i, for one, don’t think it’s unreasonable for it to be floating on clouds
Isn't wasteland on the ground
Forest is also on the ground, no?
Vault is very tol
Kinda like a giant version of the floating valley. Or what goob said.
Prairie is a floating island though 
Yeah. Def ^
prairie, forest, and valley are all floating
Isle is on the ground tho
Ye
So from prairie to forest is a transition from floating to ground
isle, wasteland, vault, and eden are on the ground/stretch up from the ground
Big climb
Damn, if only vault didnt exist and we had to walk through the eden residential areas.
They built with solid helium
scenic routes
Am helping
the true disneyland experience
I just found it really interesting the alleyways and streets we raced through. That big thunk moment when I realized it's not actually a racetrack but" a metropolitan area got me super excited.
imagine going up/down that on your way to and from work....
Capes
Lmao
Flapflap bois
ancestors couldn’t fly
The capes didnt do anything for the spirits.
Oof rip
they relied on boats
böæts
boat traffic
maybe flying race was basically dragonboating but without the dragonboat... unless.... 
Did they honk with their voices instead of carhorns? Also, what did a traffic jam look like? Could you maliciously tip someone's boat?
Someone draw that 
ginsy sketched boat traffic once 
Just to ruin your theories: This is Eden Mountain seen from Valley and it is FLOATING
Maybe they had enough morality to resist tipping someone's boat
eden mountain is floating?
iTS AN oOB
d o u b t
Maybe they had enough morality to resist tipping someone's boat
@kind bobcat
ITs Not MeANt tO bE SEen like ThAT
INTERNAL SCREAMING
in the concepts, eden was an actual mountain
Usually when they express something is floating, they cover the base with clouds, or hanging earth.
And it is an actual mountain of clouds
strikes me as a mount olympus kinda thing ngl
Its a helium balloon covered with storm and toped with an angry diamond

<>:C
Minecraft beacon
Angry diamond.
Eden biggest boat of them all 
I think that the hair costs to much in my opinion
?
Wrong chat buddy
we're not talking about hair though
Elders just think of everything as boats.
Bench? Boat that sinks.
Mountain? Big boat
Building? Boat but inside.
Skykid? Boat that breaks when you sit on them.
@winged gazelle You have reached true lore 
You can't take this canon away from me
;-; n-no I like it
Change my mind
do you guys think that the kingdom is the only civilization around ?
No
In this world? It seems so
Until we bump into Journey sand dudes.
If the planet sky is on is big then probably not
You suggesting kingdom only of boats 
Sky is on the other side of the journey boat
How big is it anyway
cause im wondering where the migrants and travellers in isle came from
@kind bobcat , we have. We just don’t know how to use them
How does it look from orbit
Sky is on the other side of the journey boat
@kind bobcat
That's the spirit
Never thought to look 
i kept thinking about boats fakfkakdkskdk
How does it look from orbit
@hushed steeple orbit is actually beyond space and time since we're inside the light sphere of death
How does it look from orbit
@hushed steeple
Like a giant blue ball covered with clouds
Slurp the blue ball like floating space water
i wonder if old « orbit » is canon, you could see the earth below you
Maybe not since it was removed 😔
Y’all wack
lore can do that to you
We are the wackiest channel around.
It’s my first day in lore and I’m already feeling it
Indeed
join us............
All is boat once you accept that, your journey to lore nirvana is begun 
one of us, one of us
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Although the idea that the people of sky aren't the only ones are compelling.
Something minor I noted is that on home island, you can hear gulls, but when you're on isle, sanctuary, and other places with ocean, you don't hear anything.
It makes me wonder how far away it is since seagulls are never really shown and that's a distinct kind of bird.
It could have been a thoughtless ambience, or its an indication that home is somewhere else.
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