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jwlly 
I missed anythingđ ?
we got back on topic lol
afterall, the server still exists
the elder server
(which anyone can join)
(the more the merrier)
Those aren't not of whales
The skull doesn't match with whale
Those are like of any kind bird/turtle
light turtle...i hope we eventually get to see that
maybe krills are tortles without shells

i mean, thereâs 4 krill in graveyard, and thereâs 3 or 4 skeletons arenât there ?
Going along with how these stuff came to life according to.the concepts, i like the idea that they werent fighting amongst themselves
But fighting le.creatures
Especially the ark and its supposed purpose
i like civil war cause
angst
Nyehe sure civil war is gud too
But goddang the concept arts and descriptions are so good it makes me want to believe that thats wat really happened
I mean if these were the concepts then some of the idea could still be true about wat we have now
But that would be boring
i donât wanna abandon the involvement of the creatures altogether
i think one of the sides in the civil war used a lot of dark creatures, probably the kingâs side
I literally just read through all the concepts and ye
Could be a corruption happening
The story in the concept about gw elder being half corrupted was cool tho
all the concepts are cool, itâs impossible to find one we wouldnât love
I just love wasteland's the most
Story wise, it had the most 'action' happening iirc wat i just read on the concepts
yeah, wasteland is definitely where the most stuff went down
The catapult on graveyard be throwing skids on whales
And the skids go mach 10 bonking the whales
mach 10 isnât humanly possible 
Skids arent human
Those skull aren't of whaled
the highest anyone has gone us mach 4 i thinkâ
Thats why theyre perfect for projectiles
do u need help spelling, amio ?
Amio let me call them that unless u have something else to call them other than bones
Wat is it going to be early concept dragons?
Go forest there's a whale skele
But the skull?
Wait I'll go there
Take pics
And post here with mentioning you
Ok?
Amma just search it on google and predict wat ur gonna show me
My question of wat is the glass like material on chill spirit's sunglasses is still not answered 
maybe itâs unlit diamond ?
@frozen pivot
Where did it come from and why does it look beautiful
whale skelleton is weird because the ribs are upsidedown
wait
holy eden i never noticed thatâ
maybe krills are tortles without shells
@lethal stump this is weird
Mh it does look different but hey creatures are diverse, could be another species of the same family or watevers the term for that
So ill call it whale bones until theres a proper name for it
it is weird
biology says whale skull = fish and graveyard skull = turtle
Oh ye the turtle concept
the weird part is that the vertebrae and ribs in graveyard are not turtles
Yes lets call it bones for amio's sake
The stag looking things tho
?
could be
Reika said they are based on turtle AND whale bones, including the skulls
I have to check vertebrae formats to bee sure
But as if right now, we got no idea what exact animal they are
what about a snake turtle? 
||Those are Oreo's skull||
there is a mithological creature in china that is a mix of snake and turtle, maybe whatever creature there was in graveyard, it was based on this mythological being
Well, the
doesnât have an official name for the species, and itâs not actually a whale, it was a fan name given. This creature is based off of 2 different fish species
The same could apply to the creatures at the graveyard, based off of multiple creatures but no current creature name
I'm giving this name "giant Oreo"
the creature I am talking about is the XuĂĄnwu or the Black Tortoise, and it is the guardian of the North
it is similar to a Argentine snake-necked turtle, an actual livin animal
this critter
What if those skeletons are ender dragon's
XDDDDD
this isnât about skeletons, but i have a question
What?
why do the elder graves/thrones have diamond-shaped holes in them ? any theories ?
Maybe They've that hole on their body
yeah, they do
Hm
Yeah, sky kids have a small thing in their stomach with two things surrounding it making it into a diamond shape.
brick, you have finally accepted the truth
you can see the one diamond
all of the elders have a diamond on their chest, with two brackets around them like ours
I have vault angst
GIVE US THE VAULT VAULT ANGST
The vault is so empty. Itâs cold and alone and quiet. There are graves scattered through the vault, knowledge is hidden away. We canât access it, we donât know what they knew, what they learned. We canât read their writings, we canât access their technology. We wander through, small and fragile, through a place that echoes the end of a civilization
Jeez that's sad.
On a related note, the horn is a good instrument to play through there
Itâs slower, more solemn
The cosmic mantas are majestic.
They are reminiscent of a better time
They are there to warm you before you face eden again
On an even more deppressing note, in wasteland we watched a spirit die and in forest we also saw a spirits friends get crushed by boulders.
You right
The sky kids have no concept of death so they saw that spirits death as fainting.
Yeah. Also the crying spirit is called a 'light miner'? What do you think that could mean?
Harvesting light from something
Is that what the the doors are made of?
Perhaps?
The elders donât realize that some of these spirits have died in horrendous ways
It would make sense seeing as how we need light to open them.
Yeah
Perhaps they died peacefully
These are just some of the most defining aspects of their lives
Perhaps the spirits are just a handful of spirits and we watch as they go through the different lands in hoping to achieve a better life
I think seince isle of dawn is a desert it would make sense that they left at somepoint.
Yeah
I just realized that the elders represent different types of animals..
They explore and explore, curious and wanting to grow and improve their lives. Perhaps there were wars for resources
Isle of dawns elder can make birds, praries elder can make butterflies out of light, i have no clue about the others.
Oooo
Maybe the vault elder made the cosmic mantas?
wastelandâs favoured animals are krill then
?
Perhaps krill used to be a different creature
Or perhaps his creatures are mantas
But mantas are hunted by krill
Perhaps his are whales, or some other creature that died ages ago
Krill kinda look like skeletal or undead remains
The valley elders used to be the birds-
Birds of a feather flock together deal.
The hidden forest elder represents jellyfish, as she used to move like one in her old cutscenes.
Isle would be butterflies, prairie would be birds, forest are jellyfish, valley is possibly mantas? Wasteland is something long dead or whales, and then the vault is cosmos mantas
I just realized that the elders represent different types of animals..
@gleaming flicker May I ask where u got that
Her hair looks like jellies too!
Or is that jus a theory
Maybe wasteland is that giant eel thing that swims through the clouds
The whale
Itâs not actually a whale btw
Fair
But yeah I get what u mean
Old cutscenes show that the valley elders represent birds and the hidden forest elder used to move like a jellyfish in her cutscenes. Prarie elder represents butterflies, especially with his hair and his butterfly pot.
Old cutscenes are no longer canon tho
Eels would make sense for wasteland as what else would make bones that big
I mean u can head canon it but, keep in mind the old cutscenes are scrapped from a different version of the game that had a different storyline
It didnât though??? The light and civilization fell and the children are supposed to return the stars(elders) back???
Some of their old concepts actually show that they were supposed to be animals
Isle elder being a vulture, forest being a lynx etc
But if ur basing ur theory on old cutscenes, I jus thought u should kno they arenât canon anymore
Also varieties of those creatures are found in all the realms, valley has more mantas then birds btw
I may be wrong, but I'm not sure if that's what this stemmed from in particular
Not sure though
This is a good point, but maybe the creatures intermixed among realms, like the sky children do
Before u say anything
I jus wanted to say real quick that all theories are welcome and sorry if it seemed like I turned it down
Iâm good too
Was talking to ayin but okay
Sorry, haha
Ayin is prairie uncle tho

But the cutscenes are more developed than the concepts, and actually played into the next cutscenes after interacting with the elders. The birds used to be the staple creature of valley, so it made sense back then.
He's uncle or dad?
The only scrapped cutscenes are from Sky Light Awaits, and everything from there is non canon bc the story and the entire game rlly was completely different and doesnât relate to the current Sky Children of The Light
Also amio, the most common family elder nickname was Praire uncle
He's friendlyđ
Itâs Isle grandpa, praire uncle, forest auntie, valley actually doesnât have a common used nickname, wasteland dad and Vault mom
But of course
Thereâs Vault vault too
Vault mom?
đ¤Śââď¸ Vault Vault? Again?
Ur new
And everyone refers her to forest auntie lol
But idk, ig some call her forest mom
Iâm jus sayin what was most common
i call her forest mom 
Isle-Birds
Prairie-Butterflies
Forest-Jellyfish
Valley-Manta
Wasteland-Dragon
Vault-Whale
Theory time
Yay!
No more nickname talk
Kkkk
Based off of how they look, I have attributed those animals to the elders.
*Vault one is *ghost mantA?
Isle and Prairie are obvious, but the others are if you look into the details of their realm-
Yeah
Ghost mantas memories.
Are*
And there are different memory animals in there.
So, attributing a whale to her is more better, as the whale is a physical animal.
Though I could see the memory elder manta being attributed because of the text on her mask.
Sleep time
Gn all
gn amio !
what's wrong with nicknames?
Wasteland has an actual battlefield, so it's entirely possible 
And a bunch of stuff, but Iâll explain my thoughts in more detail if yâall want
Yeah
Yes!
And a bunch of stuff, but Iâll explain my thoughts in more detail if yâall want
@modern smelt
Please please!
I have fans :D
The wastelands are a desolate place. It is harsh and dark and cruel. Creatures made of darkness lurk and scour, violently attacking anyone who walks past. We walk in empty hulls of ships. Spirits of soldiers give a salute to someone we canât see, it is their last salute and they do not know it. Giant ships are strewn about, sand filling them as ages pass. They serve us as protection.for others, they were weapons, or prisons. The sands serve as mass graveyards, their ships serve as a timeless reminder of the horrors of war. Spirits of refugees face the dangers of soldiers and battles. Theyâre often alone. A frightened refugee holds an instrument, an item from a happier time. Perhaps we are the lucky ones, really. The angered eye of the krill is easy to avoid. They cannot hear, we have our music and our friends. The spirits faced armies alone in silence. Perhaps the spirits hear our music as we wander through. Perhaps they feel joy upon seeing we are not alone. Perhaps they feel remorse, wishing they could do something to protect us from the armies we canât see.
A lot of parts from the game is chilling if you think about it too hard
I also just happen to really like angst
Fair
I have fans :D
The wastelands are a desolate place. It is harsh and dark and cruel. Creatures made of darkness lurk and scour, violently attacking anyone who walks past. We walk in empty hulls of ships. Spirits of soldiers give a salute to someone we canât see, it is their last salute and they do not know it. Giant ships are strewn about, sand filling them as ages pass. They serve us as protection.for others, they were weapons, or prisons. The sands serve as mass graveyards, their ships serve as a timeless reminder of the horrors of war. Spirits of refugees face the dangers of soldiers and battles. Theyâre often alone. A frightened refugee holds an instrument, an item from a happier time. Perhaps we are the lucky ones, really. The angered eye of the krill is easy to avoid. They cannot hear, we have our music and our friends. The spirits faced armies alone in silence. Perhaps the spirits hear our music as we wander through. Perhaps they feel joy upon seeing we are not alone. Perhaps they feel remorse, wishing they could do something to protect us from the armies we canât see.
@modern smelt
So the spirits are happing right now but I'm another dimensions of sort?
I still have no idea what exactly happened but itâs so tragic and terrifying
I think the spirits are from a previous civilization
But if youâre dead, and so are entire armies, you are forced to deal with that all the time
That's so sad
Bro.. you didn't make me almost cry for fictional characters..

I full cry for fictional characters regularly
Hey have yâall heard my compassion thoughts
I thought we were in the post apocalyptic world of sky, an age in which our golder years have long been gone. But so it is for our enemies. The krill, despite their looks, are now deaf and blind, barely being able to see a small scope of the world. Perhaps they were more dangerous before, but now they roam the earth in anger, the only emotion they are allowed to express, decaying as slowly as everything else. Poor things, for they do not know our race is back with a second chance, a second golden era, while they can only see anger and death for beings that are no longer here
Ooo
One of my theories of the creation of krill are skykids who are angry and it slowly consumes them
Don't you dare make me feel bad for krill. I will cry on you if you do. read as: I dare you to make me cry over krill
Alright, but Iâm going to start at the beginning
My idea of krill are that they were created to protect the skykids, but after the fall of civilization. There was a big war and they were used as weapons. Afterwards, they become confused and angry and tried to kill anything on sight
@modern smelt i remember you bringing up that one
@sly kestrel sorry for the ping, but some time has passed and I wanted to make sure you saw this. Please keep your comments respectful of others' theories. There's no reason to shoot ideas down because they aren't canon, the most popular/accepted idea, or fit your personal narrative. All ideas are welcome here. There is no harm to let imaginations run wild, so long as things are kept appropriate/abide by the rules of the server.
Cause the bodies never stop :(
Speaking of imaginations running wild, have you seen my Mind Control Megabird theory? It was supposed to be crack but it refuses to be.
I like to think the krill are sky kids but they lost all of their wings because of the red cristals. So, because they couldn't retake their wings (We have the privilege of having wings all over the world, but the past every single wings was a sky kid) they became so desperate they took some cristals and put them into their bodies. The corruption slowly but surely changed them
im confused, so why do some interpet forest elder snatching the light away as a trauma response? i thought snatching something away from a beckoning hand shows greed or impatience.
Wait wait what's the Mind Controle Megabird theory???
It's not that their mad or insane, they have conciousnes. But the cristals, much like they do to us, hurt them. It hurt them so bad they can only see a small scope of the world, using their last light to look for others light to steel.
@sinful anvil by the mind control theory, snatching the light away was done because of the sheer danger of the thing we brought.
Ace Rabbit#7675
aksjshgf
so its an instant reaction of âWhat are you holding?! that looks dangerous & not for you!!â
More like "NOPE NOPE NOPE KILL IT WITH HAMMER AND THROW IT OUTSIDE"
is it me or the skykid kinda recoils before she grabbed it
Wait who is alef?
oh so she took it bc she doesnt want it in the skykidâs hand. nice
The journey storyline was so much easier to understand 
@red grove prince from early concept. He's skykid sized rather than normal elder sized
I died
I> @red grove prince from early concept. He's skykid sized rather than normal elder sized
@short owl
He isn't here anymore?
Poor fella
Not like the other elders. He's carried by us and strewn around the world
what/who is megabird???
When you are first created, you are alone. You are bright and warm in a sort of cold place. You are shown beauties in the world. You are free and you can fly and you are beautiful. You explore and you discover more stories. Youâre horrified at the light minerâs story, you are happy to help the elders. The golden wasteland is terrifying. The vault is calming. There are horrors you see and you are horrified by them and rightfully so. You finally make it to eden. Itâs name is barely a whisper, people are scared to say itâs name, they wonât tell you whatâs going to happen, just that itâll be okay.
You watch as your friends turn to stone for the first time. You watch as their light dies. You watch as they sacrifice themselves for countless other nameless faces. Itâs awful, to put it lightly, and then you die, eventually. You come back, of course, but then you realize that there are others who are still frozen.
Youâre now trapped in an endless cycle of self sacrifice. You are saved, too, though. Someone else will come and try to help you. It is a curse and a blessing. Your compassion will be your savior and your demise.
You watch as more kids are created. There are two paths you can take here, so this time, anger is how weâll go.
Is there a way to save everyone in the Eden?
Probably if you have a coordinated group and enought winged light
I kinda wanna try now 
In butterfly's theory: it can only ever be all but one
Also, you can return fir those you missed before the Sunday reset
When I was in the Eden, I has the fortune of being there with my friend Pozod, we both meet at the start and pretty much carried each other
~~also i drew alef if any of you wanna check it out in completed creations
~~
If you were to manage to reach the end and run backwards, coordinating with everyone else to reduce the number in the storm, you can reduce the numbers, but until you get to the point of returning from the point of no return...
Ohh yes! Let me do it right now!
It looks so good what
aw thank you 
You grow angry as you watch the elders do nothing to protect us. You watch as older kids grow desensitized to the horrors of the battlefield and the neglect of the elders. You grow bitter, and you try to protect the new kids. You scare them, trying to get them to stay away. In the forest, you leave them for a little too long in the rain. In the valley, you run into walls a little too hard.
If that doesnât stop them, then the crimson wastes is your last chance. You lead them through, pretending to be kind and helpful, only to drop them where the krill can see them. You drop them in the oil and watch as the krill attack relentlessly.
Your light slowly dims. Your heart is no longer warm and bright and hopeful. Your physical form starts to deform as you try to protect the new kids through fear. You tune out the worries of your friends, slowly going deaf to the world around you.
You pretend to be calm with a nice blue light. The sight of a kid fills you with rage as it reminds you of the endless cycle you were once a part of, and your light turns red.
As for the statues, there will never be no statues. There will always be one, for there will always be someone who cares enough to save you. There will always be a handful of people who are filled with such compassion and will try to save you.
I absolutely love ringing lifted torches. It reminds me that there is people out there wanting to help strangers
OMG THE PRINCE DRAW ITS SOO GOOOOOOD
That's a nice theory
Oil hurts us
Crabs are just people pulling weeds
Krill are just herbivores
Hitting something too hard hurts our plant cells
It bruises us like a fruit or veggie
So we can create fruits then?
I live in a place with lots of tall oak trees
And
The weather right now is absolutely atrocious
It's raining and its dark
mate i think you live in hidden forest
Lol I looked outside and was like
Isn't this the hidden forest
So yea
But then
My brain goes
But it's dark so golden wasteland?
And it takes 15 full seconds for me to realize this is rl
I should probably take a break from sky
Probably
Lmao
Finally, at Thatgamecompany "we have a new game that we're working on, but it's going to take a while and Sky is a live operation game (we've been live for a year and we have plans for another two more years, so there's a lot of content we have to build)"
https://www.gamereactor.eu/jenova-chen-on-how-sky-raised-1-million-to-fight-covid19/

 only the first chapter... 
Wait only two more years of Sky COTL?
hold on, live for another 2 years? o:
W h
a lot can happen in 2 years

I think that just means they haven't started planning anything beyond that yet, they're working on finalizing the plans they do have for now, before they start working on more seasonal content for 2 years from now
Not that the game will be discontinued in 2 years
ahh true
i was thinking, for lore, COTLâs story might finish in 2 years
but that makes sense too
A new game huh?
it's not mentioned that it will be related to sky either :^(
Wait I thought you said Sky would be deleted in 2 years for a sec
Finally, at Thatgamecompany "we have a new game that we're working on, but it's going to take a while and Sky is a live operation game (we've been live for a year and we have plans for another two more years, so there's a lot of content we have to build)
og text in case anyone scrolling is wondering

Woo another two years huh
So... more content? 
so yes, sky won't actually 'end' in 2 years, i think the current plans they have for content for 2 years
More lore

can't believe they've planned enough content to fill two more years of Sky
excited to see what they have planned!!!!
yes, also ello wren i haven't seen you around here in a while 
Wonder what will happen in Sky's sequel
it's only been a year of content and we haven't even gotten half of it, that's actually quite cool to think about 
assuming they're working on Sky's sequel
they just said that it's a new game
theoretically could be anything
it's only been a year of content and we haven't even gotten half of it, that's actually quite cool to think about
My money will be non existent after all those seasons
can someone here in please tell me the storyline of sky? i didnt rlly pay attention to it but now i wanna now cause it seems interesting
also ive already gone through eden and everything so yea ill take all the spoilers
storyline of sky? it's very vague because it was intentionally put that way to make us create our own theories and discuss them here :') but you can ask about anything and you'll get some responses of theories here
like with all the spirits and stuff, ive seen these posts of like the princes or something like that?
A princess

The prince and king isnt in the game, but most of us believe he exists.
it's propaganda time
I thought king was canon already
ok ok... im still very confused XD

the king is confirmed to be in-game, he's important to current lore according to ash but he's just not appearing like the elders or spirits
ok hold on let me bring out the tomcepts 

wait so who is the king?
The elder of Eden
oook
K EE NG
is that a theory o: i saw king as a separate entity from eden elder
so in golden wasteland, you see a bunch of large statues right?
and they all have diamond shapes on top of them?

:0
Is the smoller keeng his intended height in person
Maybe
That's a toll dood
Out of all the elders, the king was the tallest
but in reality he's just a small insecure narcissist
we think he's just a small guy with a huge mech suit 
any theory abt this beautiful castle?
oo, disneyland
from the discussion last night, it could have been both a powerplant (from all the pipes) and where the king resided
The power plant was probably lower in Eden, while the town was higher up.
As you can see remnants of structures in the the storm.
đ§đ§
The remnants of the structures seen in the storm seem to be like residential areas like in valley. I always shortly examine the library-like structure when giving to the statue near it.
King eat ball
||Hes humgry leave him be||
love that his legacy is  eat ball 
and propaganda
I came back from vault with the mural pics
XD
nuuuuuu
hmmmm
wait a sec
oh no
are there more runes that i missed ?!
Thanks @kind bobcat , now I can't unsee it
THERE ARE TONS OF RUNES
time for more transcribing 
o i you donât boss me around
h u e

I'm interested in these
iâll do it when i feel like it
currently iâm looking at that projection and it seems that the diamond projectors project both words and images
Iâm pretty sure tho that concept prince is what the prince looks like, since they have the mural of the prince and the megabird near the entrance to the ||office||
prince is near the office ? iâve never seen him 
oh you mean the mooseman mural?
i feel like iâm misssing something 
oh i know that
ah, based on. i thought it was line for line the same mural
Crappy transcription
I donât know how to censor images-
you donât have to
Spoilers are unecessary here
K
ahh i found it
Lmao P O G
Yeah that

POG-
The person on the boat is the prince-
yeah
but then again we canât count it for much, itâs office so itâs probably not ÂŤÂ canon  
Back when boats still go on water
Hereâs the concept timeline for any newbies.
it could just be an easter egg to reference concept art
When sky ends it would be like
" Hey what does the vault runes mean? "
" I dunno, we just made random scribbles because it looked cool "
I get the P O G part
Vault pog.

We got 18 seasons left before they stop making new content.
Hey hey, so question for the community here (I don't wanna distract from the current topic for too long ^~^)/)
Is there a "base lore" master that I can refer to that might give me the bases agreed upon theories? While I've searched the internet, it seems the sky lore community here relegated here, but beyond that, I haven't found much else. Also, if you have any links or sources I can take a look at on hand, I'd love that too. I'm just very interested in engaging with this community and scouring the world for clues, but knowing what people already agree on would be a good start.
Thank you thank you ahead of time.
in the pins 
What is the significance of vault elder, they're seen at Eden 
We base our theories from that
I figured as much, but just some agreed theories. OOF I didn't think to check the pins.
We agreed the king is the prince
And the king is a big mech suit/extension
And that brick is actually the king
theres a common belief that the prince/kingâs soul is inside our skid
Ono
đ I have no idea what these things mean, but I'm excited to find out.
depends if the mech exists/works 
You have a lot of energy radiating from that message, and I'm a little scared.
which one of us

the tomcepts 

Oh fancy
So smol uwu
heâs about the size of a skid, the prince is
... skid?
sky kid
itâs slang
Cute
Slang used exclusively by brick.
And other names for the prince/king include :
Alef
Resh
Prenc
p r e n c
Lmao
Brick is also the king
What is the sky language and are there any references to learn it?
Brick is character in game, or Brick is Brick?
Or decipher it?
brick is my name, itâs a joke
Okee, following
The king is built like a brick tho-
Koolaid through wall brick?
Is there like a refrence sheet so i can help decipher it?
The concept art names for the elders are in Hebrew, that is known.
there is a doc in pins where Mochi-daifuku and i have been working on decoding and deciphering
Brick made a transcription of the runes
Woo
many transcriptions 
So, Brick is lore theory master?

and king*
i don't think there's any lore theory master
Ash

the devs duh
in the community no, unless we gauge by how long someone in the lore chat has been around
I would say Hage might be a lore master
Mochi and Jay 
Lore Theory Master= someone who's involved in the Sky theory community. I'm trying to learn how to be more engaged here, and theorizing on stories, narrative, and games is just a high hobby of mine.
Mochi, Jay, Hage, and Wren
me? nah
you ? yah
I just pop in and help reference other people's theories
out of this entire mural, brick only succeded in transcribing one line
And one line is enough progress
Luv u brick
i thought i only needed one line
Brick is doing amazing work
they repeat
truly our king
i didnât notice the stuff on top until today
Oohhh that's actual language
so
King.
The poggers one?
Hey, making something out of very little information is a challenging task. Admirable, and daunting I imagine.

yes the poggers one
What did the line say?
Pog
oh yeah, jay mentioned that the runes at the very top seem to have created that multiple-winged creature in level 5(?) of vault
Woo
my crappy transcription made this the poggers line
yeah, it kind of looks like it
there's a line of maybe light coming from the runes and into what looks like the big creatures
Sans in sky???!!! #notclickbait #gonewrong #sans #undertale #gametheory #skycotl
<.<
:-/
i think it's a concept of summoning/praying things into existence? like the bells in prairie
So, what's Megabird? I see that pop up here from time to time, and the doc mentions it
A big bird
IT IS GOD
Thanks, broke it down that far lol

;-;
I mean, nyom pretty much sums it up
A big bird that recycles souls
Is there a document on the known lore?
Is it the big star thing?
we think that megabird is the bird at the credits/above you in orbit/ending scene
Megabird was very prominent in concept art but not as much in the current game
@digital willow check in pins
I've only been through edan once
Ooo edan
Some concept art of megabirds
https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/632004389137154048/669714792189132809
Top righthand corner. It looks like a tack
unfortunately, Hage's amazing megabird album is no longer accessible 
;-;
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Canon Lore confirmed by TGC
This is everything we know for certain about Sky, nearly everything else is conjecture.
If thereâs anything Iâm missing ping me and I can add it.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ZWJRGiJSrIXgDvJ4pST61moZbVB_hBExUjOaF-pmOE
Credit to @Mochi-daifuku for help with the Japanese livestreams
Thanks Goob
You're welcome.
Oh I have that one open lol
Iâm gonna go play sky and do sore digging, see yâall
Come from tom zhao's website
Either way, thanks though. So, why can't skybird reincarnate the other spirits?
Because they didnt die in eden
Tootles, nice to meet ya Ayin
Oh I see. It hasn't happened to me yet, but what happens if you die outside of edan in game?
Oh ok so darkstone/power diamonds are canon
Yes
Okay, so... essentially you're playing something new.
The eden crystal is a big darkstone crystal

Someone* instead of a reincarnated character of yours?
If I'm being unclear with my questions, please let me know ^~^)/ these chats fly by fast and I'll prioritize speed over clarity.
also, in all technicality, megabird isn't confirmed to be in game
we think it's there, but there's not really enough solid evidence from the game or the devs to be able to definitely say that it's in game
it was in-game but they scrapped it because she took too much cpu
my personal theory is that when we go through the portal, we are heading into the megabird
and then megabird yeets us back to Home
so here's my theory about the portal and megabird
https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/632004389137154048/669390389865873418
this was from about 6 months ago, so not sure if it's really a current theory or not
Okay, so if ya'll don't mind me asking a few more questions. The children that you find in Edan, what are they about? (I understand most of this is just conjecture and theory)
there's a couple different theories
some theorized that they were a pre-skykid race that failed
Ay the reactions 
I think there's a theory that they're other skykids
that theory may be based on the fact that at one point in pre-launch beta, the statues that we save had friends' names on them
Oh my
Okay, that makes sense.
And, a weird thing, what are the bones? Obviously, in the graveyard there are a lot of massive bones and such, but you can also find similar bones in the Vault. I'm a little obsessed with them. Are they the sky fish things?
the fact that in the third zone of eden there's a few statues that fall apart means that skykids can actually die permanently
;-;
I like to believe the bones are of another species that went extinct in sky
I'd like to think so too.
I believe the devs have confirmed that at the very least, the bones below the cosmic manta call manta are not manta bones
:O
the skeletons that we see are absolutely massive

this is what i have so far, iâm rlly tired so probably wonât finish today
Epic
I think one of the skeletons is a whale. Don't remember where the skeleton is though
bless Brick
all hail the king
See it aint Poggers

thĂŠ ? is just a character i couldnât understand
i'm just letting you know that we all love you for your efforts brick

have you two figured out if the glyphs are read left to right (or vice versa) and/or top to bottom (or vice versa)?
I can hail more than one being 
we donât know until weâve gotten them all transcribed
even then itâs just kinda a gamble
Wait so is megabird good or bad?
we try something and see if it sticks
ah, welcome to the madness, alexander
And then maybe decypher them
we don't know for sure!
there's a relatively new theory that the megabird may not be as good as we thought they were
imma
imma share the mind control theory to confuse the moffs
Oh my
six adults practice child labour and get away with it
It would be intriguing if they were canonically evil
can't speak for everyone, but I think the general consensus before this theory was proposed is that the megabird was good and/or neutral
Do you think once the 2 years is up we get canon lore
maybe
not really
once again, this also technically hinges on the fact that there is a megabird in-game
and that the megabird plays/played the same role as in the concepts
True, megabird could not even exist and the devs just put a bird
but it's all very interesting to think about 
Wooo that theory is really good 
Also, brick. What did you use to make the transcripton in Mochi-Daifuku's doc?
The square things
I have been saying forever that there's a severe lack of adult supervision
wdym ?
<.<
yes wren we need adults in sky, the elders donât count 
do you mean like...the grid patterns, Goob ?
we don't just need adults. we need responsible adults
Ah, there you go
i drew it
ever noticed that skykids look like they're barefoot with the regular cosmetics?
w o a h
also bless brick
Yeah I guess they do walk around barefoot
procreate has a good line tool 

anyways i think imma sneep
Yeah, go get a good sneep brick
you deserve it.
even a king needs his beauty sleep
Good sneep prenc
good night


Sweet dreams of sugarplums and emo shrimp

He saw us-
Nice to meet ya, brick. And thanks for the introduction ^~^)/
are skykids orphans or do they just not have "parents"
I want to know people's theories so here's a question:
Why did the Valley elders throw what you held into the sky?
because fun
So, question and back to the bones.
The only real fauna you see in sky are ones that are essential to the Sky world. Birds help you recharge, butterflies recharge and boost, rays carry you, and the big fish boy who bonks.
But, I have to ask, what happens when these animals die? Do we see birds in orbit? We def see translucent rays, but I don't remember birds and butterflies except in the ruined city in the sky.
So, do they die? And if they die, do they reincarnate?
The bones implies that something decayed. Was there something on the world before the stars fell, or are these bones the remains of things that are associated with sky. And if so, why collect them in the vault of knowledge, unless there was something to be learned?. Idk, just a lot of interesting things to think about with that.
They are technically orphans due to their parents, whoever they are, abandoning them
And what's with the dead bird in the races?
How are sky kids created if they dont have parents

Wait what do you mean dead bird???
I want to know people's theories so here's a question:
Why did the Valley elders throw what you held into the sky?
We can go fluff or angst, fluff is so that they can share things with others. Angst is so that they can show off their power and hold the resources to themselves/their areas instead of using it to help the players
At the entrance of the big... Observatory? Is that what it's called?
There's a statue of a dead bird.
Yes plz
What do you think these runes mean you guys?
@digital willow you look like me 
Thanks but i haven't bought the cosmetic yet.
Oh..

I don't know too much about the language of sky
But I know for a fact the vault elders mask which is similar to that one has a whole essay written on it
Lol
I didnt even really realise they have their own language until like literally 10 mins ago
Lol, where did the deciphering people go 
brick is sneeping
The ones on the mask seem different and less complex than one the murals
I just think they're symbols of some kind
I'd still be great to know
I have compiled the language cipher stuff on this discord that i have seen so far.
Yeah still no idea lmao
None of these are mine except the vault mask thing.
There are pipes which run through the lands. Oil infects the water, harming all who pass through it, mistaking it for the crystal waters of previous lands. Smog blocks out the sunâs light, instead leaving you to bear this awful, relentless heat. Breathing hurts, almost as if the air is trying to suck the life out of you.
Life cannot thrive there, rotting carcassesâ smells are blocked by oil and smog. Oil chokes out those who try to pass through. The sight of plant life is missing, leaving you to hope desperately for some sort of reprieve. There is a hidden oasis, trying to grow. Your nurturing hands help the oil cleanse itself. The smog clears and the moon shows itâs face. Life flocks there, should it survive long enough.
The krill survive only through not needing food. It hunts patiently, waiting for some young, naive sky child to pass by. Darkness is common in these lands. Cold hearts solidify here, turning angered kids into creatures of devastation.
The crimson wastes used to be a gorgeous, quiet, desert, now it is a screaming reminder of all the death which haunts these lands.
I see 2 diamonds on the vault mask and a square in the middle.
The square is prominent.
what this
@modern smelt I am falling in love with your writing
I want to know people's theories so here's a question:
Why did the Valley elders throw what you held into the sky?
@hushed steeple cause mind control light is dangerous and you wanna get rid of it. Also becausewas too busy showing off to think straight.
Can you explain the whole mind control light for me, if you can.
As someone that spends a lot of time with their sister I can assume Anime Hair was also being whiny and didn't want their twin to get the light
Also the entire Eden king being reborn as the Sky kid is brutal and I'm in love with it
I did a more comprehensive look at the vault mask.
So the theory goes that the megabird, being of light. Is a collective conciousness capable of exerting their will on others.
While it's difficult to tell, this would be deffinately supported by say, megabird being a collectice conciousness made of many beings
what if the eden king is the sky kids just reincarnated a bunch of time
@modern smelt I am falling in love with your writing
@mortal viper bows dramatically how wonderful!
Oh... Filter...
I think about this part of the Beginning Cutscene a lot.
The kid seems like a normal spirit child.
I came up with the theory the Skykid was born using a dead spirit as a vessel, to fill it with a piece of Megabird's light.
Now
I'm starting to think the dead child used as a vessel is either the King or a fragment of what's left of the king
Also "Wake up"
You people are dark
wake up link
Really dark
Angst is fun
Like, Krill legs dark
Emo shrimp dark
My theories are usually way more lighthearted but you gotta get angsty when it comes to Eden and King lore
Only krill legs? I gotta up my game
NO
Lmao
Ok so the devs said that the skykids capes were made of light, and their masks were made of stone (was it darkstone or regular stone?), so what are their bodies made of??
You guys need to spend a month in prairie and sanctuary
You guys need to spend a month in prairie and sanctuary
@mortal viper jokes on you I already spend a lot of time there
Ok masks are regular stone
Wax bodies
Wax???
They would melt though.
@heady sinew, then you are an evil crab already
When you run out if winged lights you turn into a statue. So sky kids can just be statues brought to life by the elders, like how there are story's of gods making humans and bringing them to life
Charcoal then
Bur then they would burn when set on fire.
bump have this angsty headcanon I just came up with
And it seems fire or whatever could be their most valuable resource, like the stories of ancient humans
Idk that's just what I thought of
Oh so maybe when you're gray, you're like cold wax and normally you're hot wax?
bump have this angsty headcanon I just came up with
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@mortal viper your right Sanctuary is the best place to let my mind go wild about how the very beings that let the world turn are the ones that make the world burn
It is a magical world people, stone boats can fly
True.
Maybe they are wax and I'm just being too logical.
the toilets in the office are magic
Logic is good tho
And thousands of the same sky kid can be held in a time loop, yes
They also ding when you crash
Maybe they're the embodiment of creativeness.
The story of Popol Vuh (k'iche mythology, Mayan) narrates how the gods wanted to make a world to fill up the empty void.
And how they went through many types of materials to create humans, mud, corn, wood, clay.
You have a bell in your head
wheeze
Hair would make sense as light though I think.
It disappears when you run out of light so yeah
It is very glowy sometimes.
Also, many light creatures just show up from the clouds
Fluffy light
/bells for brains tho
Skykids are equivalent to crows
donât change my mind
I gtg eat dinner cya bros
Byee
Cya my guy.
Just realized the place they're putting the diamonds in has the same shape as the huge pillar inside the temple
Oh neat
It is a diamond factory
Bells for brains is my new favorite hc, and I won't take any other excuse for the dinging crashes (unless it's really good)
/i mean how else can we honk
We have horns for vocal cords?
?
I was gonna say like those bike horns, but there's a bell in the squeezey part
I could just imagine a sky kid going around sounding like a jeep.
The yellow diamond's in the picture above is coming from pots.
@digital willow Omggg you're right, and the blue ones come form "underneath" the surface. So power diamonds need both light and a solid structure
Devs said this symbol is important,,,, I can think of it as an uncomplete power diamond (missing the bottom part) but idk how would that affect the plot
i think that's a king symbol
Maybe the light that was collected in prarie is used in the creation of the power diamonds.
Also shown in these two places (maybe there's more but I got lazy)
oo yesyes
Maybe the light that was collected in prarie is used in the creation of the power diamonds.
@digital willow it probably is, we discussed this theory before and we assume Prairie was the place where the light is obtained, while forest gets the rocks
Alot more I think.
@digital willow of course, but I just didn't wanna look for them lol
There was also light in the caves because one of the forest spirits is called a 'light miner' and they had a pickaxe.
It's the crying emote.
I wonder if the rocks are related to to the red eden rocks.
Or they're a similar type of sediment.
the red eden rocks are from the eden diamond i think
could be true, the eden diamond might be a huge power diamond gone wrong? i forgot the theory about that one
i am
In a pickle
The first row of the runes has 13 letters and is shifted to the left by one letter
Which means the main cluster of letters' top row has 12 letters
While the rest only has 11
I'm transcribing brick's transcription

This is what i got so far and the first row is missing a letter
Ok
A little clear image
Just realized there were glyphs on the bells too
Well đ§ą @lethal stump I think the 8th letter of 2nd row (from left) is the sky form of "E" not the "F"
And there's no missing letter I think after seeing the clear image
Mochi, Jay, Hage, and Wren
@lethal stump
Iâd also call you a true Sky Scholar tbh
unfortunately, Hage's amazing megabird album is no longer accessible
@cold steppe it is unfortunate ! It used to be an album of literally everything lore related screenshotted and captioned (mostly captioned) including concept art ; it would have been a true lore primer if it still existed but then again maybe itâs cached in google?
Thats a new letter 
Not having 60 fps is cursed
My friend sent me That picture
wow yall really went above and beyond in lore hunting
me: takes pics of boats
yall: tries to transcribe a forgotten language using text in the game
Update: was not cached đ˘
Tgc: || . ||
Us: "why it spoiler tagged tho?".... "Why the dot is on 2nd position??"..... "24 invisible Letter and a dot ... interesting
"......
NOOOoooOOooo even the library of Alexandria doesnât have it
It had everything including captioned descriptions, but only 80% of it was captioned so it wasnât ready for release yet
Megabird, king, murals, spirits, mantas, beta, eden, bones, literally everything except a darkstone/power diamond section I realise now
Lost to the winds of the internet, it got krilled

A vault of lore knowledge 
yes true
I actually have quite a few notes on the sky glyphs and symbols. I also found a ton of writing irl that looks suspiciously familiar to the sky symbols. The meanings I found to them were interesting too, especially regarding the fact that they were on the bells. Lemme send it real quick
Anyone else has noticed this?
In
spirit cutscene the bell is different...
#lore-discussion-spoilers message how bells usually looks like
Someone probably pointed it out already lol I'll delete it if so the eden door reminds me of the king
Cause every door its inspired by the elder image
amio i feel like thats an old model of the bell
And then we got this hunk
With elders at the bottom and that on top reminds me of the prince on their mecha suit
Hm
But it needs to change now ginsy?
seems like if it's included and affects in the spirit memories, it will turn a very pale blue/white
Yeah every door has a smol elder like face to them
Like forest door has forest elder face
I know
roughly, it kind of looks like the gates are very rough outlines of figures of the elders to the extent a portal can manage?
So m like what if the king is on the door the eden door
He's there
Since it looks kinda like the mecha suit sort of
He has the biggest door what an ego
hold on, eden gate looks like a mountain 
I feel like the Eden door/gate/thing is repressing the king on the mountain like it was supposed to be in the concept art, he was on the mountain, and you would go up to him and free him sort of, so maybe thatâs the meaning behind it ish, and if you looked at the old concept art, you would free the king (or light it kinda) with a light, and that action probably representing the bell
Iâm really new to this kind of stuff so I probably have said something someone else has said
like the mountain we see from realms
I'm literally bored to use this word now "king propaganda"
Anyways seeya 
amio, one can theorize that the bell model the clap spirit shows is an old model of the bell back in their days, and the model we have in life was an updated, newer model
assuming spirits change the bells over periods of time

idk if i understood that correctly, so it's like the white bell model was the bell the spirit had back in their memories that we relive?
tes
yes
like uh, replacing the model with a better model or something
like upgrading from an iphone 4 to an iphone 6
Oreo killed them
Then who would update the bell
well something happened with eden and then hundreds of years passed as you see in the very beginning story intro
probably another spirit we dont see
its a theory tho
chances are the white bell model was simply an old model that hasnt been updated
New bell better resonance
In a rush to travel
Wait no more
Assuming the bells job is to summon mantas
Since that seems to be its function in game we can see
Anyone else has noticed this?
Inspirit cutscene the bell is different...
@hushed steeple the reason why it looks like that is bc itâs showing that itâs involved in the spirit memory, and thatâs why itâs blue. To make it simpler, itâs a spirit bell
was too busy showing off to think straight.