nah i just sent the pic don’t worry
#lore-discussion-spoilers
lethal stump
heady sinew
Sure sure 
modern smelt
I wanna think about angst
lethal stump
who doesn’t
sly kestrel
Think out loud so we can see
modern smelt
What should I think about tho? The players? The elders? the spirits?
Crabs? Krill? Something else?
sly kestrel
The elders
lethal stump
spirits, you haven’t talked about them much
sly kestrel
Did they rlly “fall” or did they choose to leave their home for their own purposes
Oh
Yeah spirits are cool too
heady sinew
Sanctuary is pretty angsty if you think the questgiver died waiting for more people to visit their resort but, nobody came
sly kestrel
Why only some, why were these specific spirits chosen to be in their constellation
Howcome not all the spirits aren’t present and only some are able to have their memories relieved. Why are their spirits there in the first place 🤔
modern smelt
The elders and spirits seem intertwined. What caused them to be spirits? Were they, too, like us? Perhaps the elders were still young and reckless, not thinking about possible outcomes to their exploration and scientific growth.
sly kestrel
Actually um...canon talk
They are a different species then skykids but go ahead
tranquil thicket
tbf there is not a ton of written lore
sly kestrel
Here’s the base canon, the spirits were alive once and we don’t know the exact name of their race, but they were natural habitants to the sky world
They also seem to be all extinct most likely bc of the events to the sky world, not one is alive
But, some of their spirits are alive still, and the mystery is why. Why are their spirits present
There ya go butterfly
modern smelt
Thank you
sly kestrel
Can I call u butterfly?
modern smelt
Ye
sly kestrel
Awesome
modern smelt
Butterfly, hades, anything else tbh
normal berry
beef
modern smelt
But the spirits and elders seem to be of the same species
sly kestrel
Ima call you La Campanella cuz...piano
tranquil thicket
lmao that's longer though!?
sly kestrel
Ri, I think u already know I name u siriacha a lot
tranquil thicket
ah, but are they? they look humanoid but are they the same species?
modern smelt
True, and a little
sly kestrel
Yeah, they confirmed them to be different species
modern smelt
Ah
kind bobcat
Same goes with the skykids, we're all different species
normal berry
Ri, I think u already know I name u siriacha a lot
yesh 🌶️
sly kestrel
But if u wanna make ur own story (which tgc wants you to do) u can try to form one where they are the same species
kind bobcat
damn, sky is speciesist
sly kestrel
I simply nickname ppl I see a lot that are active in the channel
Like Vibatu, I’ve known them for a while so I ended up with the nickname vibrato
Cuz...music
normal berry
I go by many names but Sriracha and Ri are the most popular
sly kestrel
Well sometimes my nicknames are longer than the actual name 
normal berry
none of which are my true name
modern smelt
The two look similar, is it just a design thing or like in religion or mythologies where the gods created people
sly kestrel
U kno it might actually be a debatable theory now that I think about it
When the elders fell, they thrived with an entire species of ppl
But
With this logic, it’s safe to assume that they lived before the elders fell right
So howcome we don’t see any architecture that was built by the ancestors themselves before the elders fell 🤔
normal berry
elders might have taken a humanoid form to look less shocking to the native people
sly kestrel
Was it all destroyed when they built their civilization
Or did....the elders create the ancestors
Btw u will catch me saying “ancestors” a lot bc that’s what there are called in the concepts and I don’t kno the current canon name of their race
Perhaps I’ll ask reika one day
Or ash
modern smelt
Huh
sly kestrel
Oh, they are devs
Sometimes they visit this channel and very rarely they will answer lore questions
Like how ash confirmed the king being canon in the sky lore
Before, it was jus a theory
lethal stump
a SKY theory
thanks for watching !
sly kestrel
Huh
spring blaze
game theory yt reference
hushed steeple
modern smelt
jokingly Now on to the real question. Did they have icecream?
hushed steeple
Did I heard a game theory
lethal stump
if they did, valley elders probably made it
modest sequoia
And kept it all for themselves 
modern smelt
horrified gasp how could they?
heady sinew
This could be two mountains, and the square in the middle whatever city they built in-between those mountains
I'm just stretching here but I know a lot of the symbols in Sky are very vague and raw. War flashbacks to Enchantment season
Anyways, Valley and Forest doors share designs
Here's a rather wonky looking screenshot of the Triangle symbol
I tried to find the "You're not inmune to propaganda" meme but I found this pic instead for comparison.
(King concept art)
lethal stump
barren path
the door similarities are super cool! it also looks a lot like the mask/headdress that the forest elder wears
heady sinew
Yes, that one
normal berry
I never noticed this until now but when it moth first wakes up in the game they look down at the glowing piece on their chest like "huh what's this?" And that's so cute 
pallid citrus
@normal berry the quote in the clip you posted from the lore doc was what made me think of the baby krill crab thing. I went and looked today, and it just made enough sense.
gray drum
Wait newbie here. So the Elder Gods descended? I thought they fell along with the ancestors.
Ah! So these ancestors seek to reach Orbit? Most of them did, hence there deteriorating lands of the Wasteland?
gray bridge
i'm not sure about the seeking part but we do return them to orbit
my theory is that the spirits did want to go to orbit, or at least the citadel scholars were studying how to get back to orbit since the armillary sphere resembles the light ball sphere in orbit
rugged needle
Any secrets I should know about orbit before I get there? (Except for seeing megabird when you look up)?
gray bridge
wait you haven't been to orbit?
rugged needle
Oh no I just wanted to know if there were any more secrets
gray bridge
hmmm i don't have anything specifically on orbit but i have stuff on what goes around in orbit
gray drum
There are old beta drawing of elders. Don't know if it has been patched. Oh there's also constellation of skykids
@hushed steeple where
sinful anvil
another evidence of short skykids
i remember sitting in driving seat when i was little & cant understand why we sit in passenger’s. my view is close-to-exact like this
rugged needle
Just get a stack of books and a broom
orchid crypt
not sure if car or sky kid honking
the estimate for the average sky kid was about 3 feet or so from memory?
gray bridge
this person used tgc's BAFTA award as a scale but i think it's pretty useful
anyway, accurate or not accurate skids are definitely very small
sinful anvil
yo remember that spirit in the office? we can use him to measure ourselves. hes an adult
sly kestrel
The office spirits are based off of the default spirit model
It’s not actually what the devs looked like or their actual size
sinful anvil
is default spirit model in adulthood?
sly kestrel
Yeah
A normal adult spirit
That’s what they based the office spirits as
But size in general, they are totally different then the ones we see at the office
Plus they use in game cosmetics as well to customize the office spirits
Like the valley hair
It’s not actually what one of the devs hair looks like
.....unless 👀
short owl
Honestly, human adults vary too much in size to be used as a measuring tool.
I liked the vault lantern measuring system since it provided a stable measuring tool... Mostly
modest sequoia
I forget who it was, used the ISS to measure Skykids, I think we came out to being 8 feet tall
short owl
XD
brave parcel
isle grandpa makes horrible dad jokes, change my mind 
nimble siren
his jokes are all butterfly themed
mellow fox
Jellyfish with crowns
nimble siren
like the really big ones in eden?
mellow fox
Yeye
nimble siren
ive naver really thought about them
sly kestrel
King jelly
rugged needle
Don't have to spoiler orbit images in here right?
Ok I'm gonna post em
Apparently the names during the credits don't show up when you take a pic in-game, I didn't know that
spring blaze
ig all ingame text doesnt appear in ingame ss
leaden surge
rugged needle
Oh before I do that here's this
leaden surge
I never noticed the skykid constellation before today
rugged needle
Me neither
gray bridge
orbit is so pretty
also, i did some searching, apparently tgc said that blue does represent death? so yeah i think that the hidden forest having a blue-ish colour scheme because it's the first place you can actually "die" in-game is pretty legit, and orbit is also blue too
idk where the exact source is but a mod said it, i'll find the source later
i think that kind of ties in with hidden forest's river area and orbit having the same leitmotif (haha here i am again with the leitmotifs) which can be used to represent death as well
interesting to note that according to the wiki, the river area music is in eflat major and orbit's key is just a step up which is e major, since orbit is on a higher level than forest 
probably might be overanalysing again but i should really work on my leitmotif doc
hushed steeple
🧠
broken basin
Why gw isn't Blue then???
We can die there too
And vaUlt is blue, but we can't die there
gray bridge
hidden forest is the first area you can die in
it introduces the concept of death to skykids, that's my guess
orchid crypt
i mean, green is yellow + blue, so if you wanted to argue wasteland along those lines...
eden doesn't line up at all though, it's just full red
gray bridge
true, true
but i don't think it'd make sense to make all the realms blue either
since each realm has a different focus
modern smelt
Blue gives me soft death vibes
broken basin
Each Realm represents a time of the day too
modern smelt
Red is aggressive and cruel
orchid crypt
yeah, i don't think the colour choice always corresponds to the "meaning" they might have outright said: eden's choice of red is definitely to imply danger/panic
gray bridge
vault is blue because i think it's what's leftover from the fall of civilisation, like the memories of the dead that are passed onto us i guess
orchid crypt
there's death, but you're not meant to feel chills or a calm about it
gray bridge
that is true as well
modern smelt
If you die by blue crystals, you’re gonna feel more “oh, what a beautiful ending of martyrdom” while red gives a sense of “we needlessly die in an endless cycle of self sacrifice”
gray bridge
blue is also the colour of spirits initially
broken basin
Isle-sunrise
Prairie- day/noon
Forest- evening rain???(not sure at all)
Valley- sunset
Wasteland- dusk
vault- night
Eden- midnight ???
Orbit- the time just before sunrise when it isn't too dark???
modern smelt
You’re more likely to panic and feel stronger and more aggressive emotions hen red is around
spring blaze
forest is just rain lolol
gray bridge
yez
broken basin
The stones in Eden were blue earlier, but eventually, tgc changed them to red to represent that those stones are something more dangerous and special
orchid crypt
i'm not sure if eden even corresponds to a time of day -- big storms kinda just completely override what the sky looks like
modern smelt
Blue gives more soft vibes compared to red
orchid crypt
eden was originally blue. but it wasn't as terrifying
yeah, blue is either calming or creepy depending on what kind of setting you put it in -- red's the one that feels more visceral/dangerous
gray bridge
blue feels... very cold. like post-mortem cold. it contrasts with the warm yellow-white of light and life
modern smelt
When you think blue, you think of the sky and oceans and cold and ice and snow. You think “impossibly white/black.” You think sterile, or you think quiet
spring blaze
we tend to associate colours with meanings
broken basin
Red means danger.
That's what's embedded in our minds
spring blaze
mhm
modern smelt
Red is anger, it is a charging bull. It is blood, it is pain. It is a new day, it is an evil eye, it leaves things seemingly dirty, like a stained white shirt.
broken basin
Green is ??????
modern smelt
It is hot and it is fire
broken basin
Wasteland is green
modern smelt
Green can be associated with either nature or greed
spring blaze
but knowing wasteland context, green can also mean toxic, poison
modern smelt
Yeah
gray bridge
i've always wondered why usual candles are red though, but that might be looking way too into it
broken basin
And, are forest trees actually wood trees???
Or is it some other material??
spring blaze
cloud trees
gray bridge
sky trees
modern smelt
Red can be comforting. It can be a bonfire, or a campfire you share with friends. It can be a blanket yo made for a family member
broken basin
Green in underground caverns- represents nature
Green in gw- represnts toxic thingies
modern smelt
It can be a hot meal someone made for you
spring blaze
in the concept arts there were “cloud trees” so thats my view of the trees in forest
gray bridge
ohhh oops i did not know that-
spring blaze
oh thats how i see it, yall can make ur own meanjng for those trees
modern smelt
Colors can be comforting or terrifying. It depends on if there’s too much or too little
orchid crypt
it's really down to the context you're seeing the colours in
orchid crypt
like, you wouldn't look at the blue sky in daylight prairie and think of "death", that just looks like a happy sunny day
modern smelt
Also, look at what colors are accompanied with the main colors
In prairie, you have greens and light blues and whites
orchid crypt
accompanying colours, shapes, and even sound in the context of this game
modern smelt
In wasteland, you have greens and yellows and blacks
In heroes valley, you have reds and yellows and whites
In forest, you have blues and blacks and a little bit of yellow
None of it is glaringly dangerous until eden
brave parcel
I remember that colours also have meanings depending on its context..i think. I haven't read about it in a while
spring blaze
also the red in eden is very saturated compared to the reds we see ingame
like the red crystals, we dont even see an outline of them when they start shaking like crazy
modern smelt
The vault has blacks and blues. It has what seems like a graveyard on the first floor and a graveyard of the elders at the top
The main difference between the vault and eden is that the vault has blue, usually associated with calmness, everything is slow. Eden is red and black, it is loud and aggressive. Death there is not pretty. It is cruel and it is so cold
The storm is aggressive in a way that is hot, it leaves you feeling cold as you watch others like you, or your friends, struggle to save more kids, only to turn to statues themselves
orchid crypt
come to think of it actually, the first part of eden is actually more blue-leaning overall -- it's like a more desolate impression of blue than what you got from vault
modern smelt
Yeah
I think it’s because there isn’t yellow highlights that sort of “lead the way”
spring blaze
there sort of is, the winged light in the building in the first area
theres this weird glitch where a bright yellow circle would pop up in that building
modern smelt
Interesting
spring blaze
the contrast between orange and the darkness of eden helps us find our way through the storm
orchid crypt
it's...very out of place when it happens 
spring blaze
like from playing the game, we associate flame with safety and life
modern smelt
Yeah
Yellow seems to be the one consistency in all the levels, actually
Except in the majority of eden
orchid crypt
yellow seems to be considered a consistently safe colour, yeah
eden, we don't really see it till the final hallway, or around the winged lights
it works really well in stormlock though, they're literal havens from the storm
gray bridge
maybe yellow can be representing light, life or like guidance? i like to think that it's a metaphor that there will always be these things no matter the situation and no matter how small they are compared to the scale of the realm
modern smelt
The players are also yellow
Their light is yellow, not orange, not red
Not green
It’s consistently yellow
It is warmth, it is the sun, it’s associated with happiness.
It’s a sandy beach and it’s glowing butterflies and jellyfish and mantas
red wagon
i’ve recently been reading through concept work and a lot of what you’ve all been saying about the colors lines up really well.
from one of the works, I thought this was interesting. “orange is the most sacred color in the game because it represents the power of the flame and our ability to form connections in the world.”
red timber
Ok so theory time (this feels kind of obvious and not that creative but yea) my friend always asked why our capes Don’t have shadows. So I was thinking about it and I am lead to believe the cape is made of light. Because you of course lose it after dying in eden when you have no wl left and the more wl you get the stronger your cape gets. Anyway the end (like I said pretty obvious but here it is anyway)
spring blaze
no need to spoiler things here!
red timber
O ok
spring blaze
yeah i think that too, bc we dont get our cape after getting our first winged light
kind bobcat
I think we all agreed last night that the cosmetics are all made out of light.
orchid crypt
wait a minute, that means the sunglasses from the current season are also made of light, when you're wearing them to block light...
spring blaze
i used the light to block the light
gray bridge
of course, it's similar to the like poles of magnets repelling each other due to the law of attraction, when you use light to block the light
modern smelt
Perhaps it serves no purpose
Or perhaps it helps people who have a hard time seeing in darkness lmao
Opposite of sunglasses
gray bridge
i was joking lol
i think sanctuary's stuff is just
not all of it is supposed to be totally correspondent to the world of sky iirc, someone said it before
spring blaze
i think ktjn said that
orchid crypt
i guess another way to look at it is that the cosmetics on sky kids really are just cosmetics -- they're basically playing dress-up by mimicking what they're seeing from the spirits, just like how they learn expressions by mimicking the spirits' gestures?
i.e. what they're actually wearing serves no practical purpose other than to mimic something they saw
spring blaze
sanctuarys like that little fourth-wall break and gives us a vacation from the pandemic probably
pastel brookBOT
finally I get to relax!!
spring blaze
HAHA
gray bridge
LOL
tawdry star
for me it is the queerness of these items that actually brings the fun and joyfulness of this season along. Which is purpose served I'd say!
gray bridge
sanctuary definitely is a nice break
tawdry star
I don't mind much it's not like perfectly correspondent with cosmetics we have seen so far!
crimson grove
@hushed steeple please don't impersonate others
hushed steeple
Mirian caught me
crimson grove
i am not joking
hushed steeple
Ok srry then
hollow pier
hi Ktjn! Hope you’re having a nice day
modest sequoia
You both still up?
agile galleon
I'm all for fun and shenanigans, but impersonating, especially authority figures, can cause problems for folks who may not be as embedded in the community structure. Especially if it's taken out of context and shared externally.
I've lost count of the times I see screenshots of something I posted in discord be shared on social media without context, or be translated incorrectly and it can spiral out of control.
Barely, high time for sneep for me. 
hollow pier
sly kestrel
I remember a wise community manager once said
No sleep for the wicked!!
modest sequoia
We are lost when you away 
hollow pier
I hope you dream up new lore for us (more importantly I hope you sneep well)
And vaUlt is blue, but we can't die there
@broken basin we can die in the archives if krabs yeet us enough
@red timber that’s a dev headcanon !
kind bobcat
The archives are probably the same as higher levels of the vault
d r e a m w o r l d
sly kestrel
Well that too, but here’s the canon base we got from a live-stream
It’s a forbidden archive filled with forbidden knowledge, and no one shall enter, it’s strictly meant to keep ppl out so who knows what it holds. Eventually, the belonging grandpa was able to sneak into the archives bc of the old ruin and decay. Would be interesting if we were able to use the vault lanterns and see what knowledge they were actually hiding 🤔
Tho I do wonder, if they wanted to keep this forbidden knowledge away from ppl and lock it up so no one could see it
Why did they make the archives in the first place
They could’ve jus chose to not put it in the lanterns
but THEY DID
sly kestrel
And I do hope we one day get to see this forbidden knowledge......even tho only the scholars and some ancestors are the only ones capable of activating the lanterns
Ooohhh hahaha
baby pics
red wagon
I would guess it was just for the sake of saving important knowledge, but only leaving it accessible to ‘higher ups’ or people they believed more qualified, although that didn’t work too well
kind bobcat
Or maybe it could hold the plans for eden
sly kestrel
embarrassing 16th birthday party
sly kestrel
Yeah, I mean I guess they could’ve put it as a vip room for only higher ups to see
Like reika said
Knowledge is something rlly valuable in the sky world
...something along those lines
Idk I forgot the quote
kind bobcat
" you need an education to work in the vault my son, thats why you go to school "
sly kestrel
Oh yeahhh that was the old model from beta
They removed it cuz it caused overheating and destroyed some devices
So they stuck with something more simple
It rlly was pretty tho, I still miss it to this day
hushed steeple
belonging grandpa came to steal knowledge from here
?
sly kestrel
Ye, he likes da knowledge
kind bobcat
Not all scholars are allowed to see alef's baby pics.
sly kestrel
I don’t think skykids even existed when the archives were made
Plus...I don’t think the scholars even knew what skykids were
We came long after the civilization became extinct
sly kestrel
Wha...I was joking
hushed steeple
Lol
sly kestrel
We were talking about the archives holding forbidden knowledge and goof said maybe it’s full of the kings embarrassing memories and that’s when we were like ahhhh, his baby pics
hushed steeple
His nightmares👀
kind bobcat
i did
hushed steeple
What part of the valut are the archives, i never learn the name of the places lmao
kind bobcat
I'm usually called Goob, Goober or Goobs, but you can call me Goof.
sly kestrel
The 2 player door to the left of vault right after u enter the portal
kind bobcat
The one on the right side of the entrance
sly kestrel
Wait no
Right
👉🏼
Yeah, it was an area added during season of belonging
And we got some canon lore from a live-stream that revealed some details on the area
And this is what I was talking about earlier if u scroll up 👆🏼
hushed steeple
Ah i searched it up but it doesn't look that way anymore
sly kestrel
And I explained why
hushed steeple
They had changed that cool version🥺
kind bobcat
flame sounds
sly kestrel
Well if they kept it I’m pretty sure some androids would’ve blew up
kind bobcat
Exactly
sly kestrel
I phone 8 or higher had the area running smoothly and they got to experience the beauty of it
kind bobcat
My phone would've been classified as an explosive
sly kestrel
iPhone 7 maybe but below that, it was jus causing a lot of lag and overheating
hushed steeple
They should keep that
I can play while sitting in refrigerator
sly kestrel
Cold on the outside but slowly dying on the inside 😉
Trust me I know that from experience
I thought I was smart for doing that
Boy was I wrong
....I don’t actually mean sitting in a fridge btw
Jus in a cold place and I would put my phone in the freezer every now and then
But it still lagged and overheated.....and yeah u get the point
But anyways, we need lore talk
hushed steeple
Back to sky lore
hushed steeple
BOAPLA
sly kestrel
BOAPLAAA
modest sequoia
If these things were always meant to fly, why didn't they make these things a little more aerodynamic? 
sly kestrel
Ok so, theoretically, they are powered by the power diamonds
But there’s a hole in that theory bc there are some boats that are seen without the use of them
So they are quite a mystery
Also a lot of things fly
Sky physics is a bit difficult
Stuff floats
Boats fly from slow moving oars
And power diamonds can be made from butterflies
U get the idea
modest sequoia
I guess, if you drop a diamond on the back of a regular boat, and it starts flying, you wouldn't mess with the concept all that much
modest sequoia
What boats are missing diamond?
sly kestrel
But like I said, it’s only a theory that they used power diamonds to make em fly
Ahhh I don’t have screenshots
modest sequoia
Just like, what area?
hushed steeple
We need a Skyclopedia
sly kestrel
Well there’s one boat I like to call the box boat and it doesn’t have any diamonds on them
modest sequoia
Where?
modest sequoia
Multiple?
I can't think of any like that
sly kestrel
It’s hard to explain with words, I’ll get screenshots soon
But point is, not all boats have the diamonds on the side
modest sequoia
Don't they have a deliscious nougaty core of diamond? 
Like the broken one ontop of Prarie temple
sly kestrel
This boat, it has diamond symbols but no actual diamonds on them
And others which I’m too lazy to hunt for right now
modest sequoia
Recycling?
Needed alot of light to make that bigg'en in Eden
Ooh, gonna go check the broken one ontop of the prarie temple again
See if they match up
lethal stump
im late to the party but it would be HILARIOUS if some of the info in the archives was embarrassing memories of Alef
modest sequoia
That may one of the noughty core kinda boats
lethal stump
that boat doesn’t have a diamond, but it has a diamond pattern. maybe it wasn’t finished being made ? the pattern looks like guidelines ngl
sly kestrel
It’s in wasteland too
And that symbol is seen in a lot of places
Valley, forest, etc
lethal stump
i mean im not surprised, diamonds in all forms were probably important
sly kestrel
If I remember correctly
A super friendly person named ginsy actually has an enormous collection of boat pics
lethal stump
is ginsy awake or do she sneep ?
lethal stump
ginsy is a girl right ? i don’t wanna mis gender them—
kind bobcat
Boat pics.
lethal stump
send boats
kind bobcat
king statues everywhere
I'm going to take pictures of arches in stormlock
So i can compare them to the ones i found in wasteland
lethal stump
arches ?
kind bobcat
Arches.
lethal stump
ive never seen arches in stormlock...
lethal stump
oh yeah ive always wondered what those were
they seemed like doorways to me
like, eventually they might lead to a new area or something
kind bobcat
Eden expansion.
Intense groaning
lethal stump
reminds me of my « season of elders » idea that takes place in eden
both the wasteland and vault elder rooms have something one could call...expansions
wasteland has those doors
vault has the hallways
that, somewhat unsurprisingly, might make stormlock the « Eden elder room »
gray bridge
ooo im a bit late but the same boat can be seen in forest
the ones with the diamond symbol but no actual diamond
hushed steeple
Eden elder room would be more like in the last area of eden?
Before entering orbit
spring blaze
my gender is yes
hushed steeple
Disney land
spring blaze
also i do have pics of every boat but the ones in the ark bc im too lazy to go there
lethal stump
well, that’s like the places you meet the elder. i’m talking about where you meditate to meet em
spring blaze
idrc what pronouns yall call me
lethal stump
oki
hushed steeple
Hmm
||Meditate_night_night2||
lethal stump
kind bobcat
hMm
What should i call you guys
For the sake of myself
i assume genders and i dont like assuming genders
lethal stump
im a guy
hushed steeple
"He"
lethal stump
yes
gray bridge
idrc about pronouns either lol
signal forge
henlo
gray bridge
hello hi
kind bobcat
for my sake, p l e a s e
gray bridge
further evidence brick is the king
signal forge
do we just talk about the meanings behind sky stuff
kind bobcat
Yes
gray bridge
yeah pretty much
lethal stump
we don’t know if the king is a guy tho
signal forge
oooo nice
kind bobcat
hMm
lethal stump
elders don’t have gender like us
spring blaze
tru
signal forge
who's the king?
spring blaze
skykids dont have gender either
lethal stump
king song ?
hushed steeple
who's the king?
We're the king
lethal stump
there’s a song ??
signal forge
wot o.o
gray bridge
ahh here we go again, bring in the propaganda
lethal stump
guys we’re confusing the moff
signal forge
there's a sky kinggg??
kind bobcat
Yes
spring blaze
king king, mighty king
king king king king
so high and royal
king king, mighty king
kind bobcat
There's a king
signal forge
Are you guys joking or something ;-;
hushed steeple
Again propaganda?
My life
signal forge
there's an elder king??
lethal stump
the king was the ruler of the kingdom of sky. we don’t see him as an elder in game, however there are references to him. the clearest references are the statues of him in wasteland, battlefield
kind bobcat
hushed steeple
And a theory says skykids could be the lost eden elder/king?
kind bobcat
signal forge
woahhh
kind bobcat
These statues can be seen in wasteland
gray bridge
love that propaganda
kind bobcat
signal forge
ig the devs could have his mask when they play hehehe
broken basin
I think , the King is just a mech robot thingy for the prince to wear
gray bridge
get in the king suit shinji!!
broken basin
People bullied the Prince, so he made a robot
lethal stump
whos shinji
signal forge
did the king get krilled? lol
broken basin
Lol
kind bobcat
No, the king maybe got killed by the eden diamond
lethal stump
no, we’re not sure how he died
kind bobcat
Or maybe he just
lethal stump
we just have theori
kind bobcat
Slipped
hushed steeple
Where's the vault mural pic👀
signal forge
what if the krill has the soul of the king and he's angry cos he died
hushed steeple
Someone post that
kind bobcat
Nah, krills are just krill
broken basin
Also, krills existed when the Spirits were alive too,
We can see a spirit in graveyard hiding from a krill
lethal stump
heck i don’t have vault mural pic in my camera roll
signal forge
ohh
lethal stump
there’s a theory saying that we have the kings soul
kind bobcat
Many theories such as Brick's headcanon suggest that the skykids are actually the king.
In here we may refer the king to as Resh or Alef.
kind bobcat
And the king is the prince
lethal stump
well in my theory, there’s only one skykid
hushed steeple
broken basin
And the child we hug is the king, and the place we are in is the big red diamond, cause we can see the beam which came out of the diamond.
broken basin
A theory says that the prince was stuffed in the diamond and it shattered, causing the Eden explosion
kind bobcat
stuffed?
broken basin
Ummmmm
kind bobcat
some serious fnaf vibes here
signal forge
Resh and Alef are the names given to the eden elder
@kind bobcat there are 2?
broken basin
Maybe the elders did it
kind bobcat
@signal forge Resh is the name of the CORRUPT king
hushed steeple
Guys I'm bored to hear that propaganda word again and again
Imma head out from here
kind bobcat
Alef is the prince/king.
signal forge
I'm like moth of the moths lol
lethal stump
it’s ok, you’re learning
broken basin
Cause the prince was the ultimate source of light and they wanted to use it for their benifit
signal forge
What did the corrupt king do?
lethal stump
there’s lots to catch up on
signal forge
yea 😦
signal forge
ohhhh
lethal stump
the corrupt king somehow led to the downfall of the civilization
broken basin
King is canon
But i dont think corrupt king is canon
hushed steeple
He's cute
broken basin
Or is it
signal forge
So we help resurrect it?
broken basin
Is corrupt king canon??
lethal stump
i’d imagine so, Wolf
kind bobcat
Maybe, but how he got corrupted is still a question
Maybe he got corrupted by himself or the eden diamond exploded and corrupted him.
hushed steeple
King is no longer here to be rescued
But I'm with the "skykids are king" side
signal forge
are the krills his then?
lethal stump
possibly
broken basin
My theory says that the king was nice but the Elders opposed him.
And the Elders were the actual bad ones
kind bobcat
I'm more of "king sucked at being king" gang
broken basin
But the king mural in vaUlt kind of opposes my theory
signal forge
what mural?
lethal stump
im more of « the king was a megalomaniac who should have never been in charge » kinda guy
hushed steeple
I need to go vault elder room again
signal forge
and are you guys talking about the corrupt king??
lethal stump
this mural
kind bobcat
@hushed steeple take photos while you're at it
hushed steeple
Apple
signal forge
I've been playing for a little over a week and i'm sooo addicted :3 I've been drawing sky fanart like every day haha
broken basin
The king didn't fall, the Elders did.
The intro says <<they didn't listen>>
Listen to whom??
Maybe the Elders didn't listen to the king.
Remeber it says THEY, so it has to be multiple people who didn't listen. King is one. That leaves the Elders.
lethal stump
oo i never thought of it that way Wolf
signal forge
omgg elders badddd
hushed steeple
It's like king is eating the apple alone and those pep are asking like "give us some please"
signal forge
but it could also mean that the elders were good and the king opposed them?
hushed steeple
Really👀
broken basin
So it has to be multiple people who didn't listen
signal forge
Yea the king was being evil and THEY didn't listen to himm
broken basin
Can someone copy paste the Intro
hushed steeple
You know it👀
kind bobcat
The King for Beginners
- The prince was crowned and became the king.
- The king is responsible for the downfall of the ancestors's civilization.
- The king was corrupted, we're unsure how he got corrupted.
- The king exists in Live, the wasteland king statues suggested he did exist at some point in the past.
- The king may be responsible for creating wasteland and the eden crystal
^^ Some points may be incorrect.```and remember that everyone can have their own theories, it’s ok if y’all don’t agree with each other’s headcanons just don’t be rude
(saying this ahead of time)
signal forge
sorry im such a noob XD
broken basin
The intro sounds more like someone was trying to say something good but the others didn't listen
hushed steeple
With the stars united, our light was infinite.
But darkness came, and the stars fell...
Together, the fallen stars made a new home in the clouds.
If only they had listened...
A long time has passed. Now, I call to you.
Wake up, child. Bring our lost stars home.
lethal stump
The King for Beginners
- The prince was crowned and became the king. - The king is responsible for the downfall of the ancestor's civilization. - The king was corrupted, we're unsure how he got corrupted. - The king's existence in Live is still unsure, but the wasteland king statues suggested he did exist at some point in the past.```
the king has been confirmed to be in live, just « not the way the other elders are »
modest sequoia
Several people are typing
IN LORE?!
broken basin
Only the wasteland elder opposed the king.
hushed steeple
Lol drap tap
broken basin
He switched teams
sly kestrel
The concept art for the king is literally just the prince on a flying platform
@kind bobcat not rlly, there’s tons of concepts where it’s his actual body in a robe
gray bridge
hmm, i think the elders were warned about something but they didn't listen
kind bobcat
I'd like to see something under that robe
broken basin
A robot
kind bobcat
I'm tired of looking at a diamond on top of a big black square
lethal stump
here’s another concept
gray bridge
inb4 6 crabs in a robe
kind bobcat
King t a l l
signal forge
wait soo... the elders corrupted the king?
lethal stump
maybe
hushed steeple
King mecha
gray bridge
maybe maybe not we don't know
kind bobcat
How he got corrupted? We don't know
broken basin
Maybe or maybe not
sly kestrel
Oh like this for example, u can see his eyes and clearly not a mech
Plus, it sort of destroys the theme of the game for robots, but u can head canon if u want
broken basin
We can speculate
modest sequoia
Hoarding the power of the light
broken basin
So, the king/prince can change sizes.
Or is it just the price is the childhood King
Wait, do that specie even age???
signal forge
How was the end of eden way before? When there was an ending where you don't die
kind bobcat
wait, king had a spear?
gray bridge
yes it was possible to not die but you'd have to lose spirits instead iirc
lethal stump
no, you died in eden in beta as well
modest sequoia
Not always 😉
sly kestrel
Also tinyigluu
Welcome to the lore channel!!
Currently, we have very vague confirmed lore and that’s Bc tgc wants us to make the story using our imagination and our interpretation makes the story. This chat is to simply share and discuss theories on ur opinions and ur views on the sky lore
signal forge
Thanks sm ❤️
sly kestrel
But overall, there is no canon story fully written out
broken basin
Jay, I'm calling you ay from now on
lethal stump
well there is lore that tgc has written, but we don’t get to find out what it is
gray bridge
not yet
signal forge
Oh wow... maybe we'll get more spoilers with time haha
sly kestrel
And imma call you 2 wolves 😉
broken basin
Yes, they don't tell is cause then, we can't have fun speculating stuff like this
modest sequoia
No, they just meanies 
kind bobcat
We can't assume the lanterns in the archives are the prince's baby pics.
lethal stump
i think they’d only tell us at the end of sky, whenever that is
kind bobcat
Never, and never would be good
signal forge
I don't think we'll have an end?
gray bridge
cotl is chapter 1 of sky actually
lethal stump
it’s only the beginning
kind bobcat
Sky 2 : Electric Boogaloo
modest sequoia
Cotl is the same game
sly kestrel
And yes, there is a possibility that maybe they will expand a canon story, reika said seasons are mainly for building the world rather than the lore but anyways
Sky is the first chapter and we are likely to get a better story soon, but, as of right now
They want us to use our imagination and build up the story with our own head canon
broken basin
Actually they had a different approach to the gane before, and it was called Light Awaits due to that reason
signal forge
So there's gonna be another game or something?
lethal stump
yeah
light awaits...is anything from it canon ?
kind bobcat
me, an android moff
sly kestrel
No
lethal stump
we dunno, Tiny. they might expand in other ways !
broken basin
Maybe light awaits will release
As sky part 2
modest sequoia
Light awaits same game, pretty much same game/story
broken basin
Who knows?
sly kestrel
Many updates changed and formed up a story, but overall light awaits isn’t canon to sky children of the light
broken basin
Yea
signal forge
i've never heard of light awaits... i'll look that up
lethal stump
it was the beta version, before live release !
modest sequoia
Its just what they called the beta version of the game
lethal stump
no longer available to be played
signal forge
ohh that's what the beta was called?
sly kestrel
Not jus beta, PRE LAUNCH beta
Current beta is for testing out new features and updates
Wow u beat me
signal forge
But stuff you collect in the beta won't be carried onto the original?
gray bridge
nopee
signal forge
It said beta was closed when I looked at ittt
broken basin
lethal stump
they do invite waves at the end of every season i think
gray bridge
yep because that beta is for beta testers for the live version of the game we have now
sly kestrel
Ok beta is currently the testing app used to test out new features in the game before it gets released to the global live version of the game
pRE LAUNCH BETA, was the first team of testers that played and tested out sky before it was released globally
signal forge
:ooo
modest sequoia
https://youtu.be/bQTH0bLyvh4
Take a watch, when ya got 11 hours
broken basin
They do before the beginning of the new season
lethal stump
wait a sec 
atonement with the father...we’re descendants...
kind bobcat
wait what
gray bridge
wait where's that from
lethal stump
scroll up, the storm concept
sly kestrel
Got any more questions igluu? Cuz if u do it might be better to ask in a beta channel, rather than the lore channel
modest sequoia
That's from Joseph Campbell
sly kestrel
Oh and that’s an old concept but sure, it might actually mean something
signal forge
oh yea XD I just got a lil carried away
modest sequoia
Its one of the steps in his story circle
hushed steeple
I watched the credits and yeah the piano music is awesome
lethal stump
the one that would have annhilated mobile devices
signal forge
storm concept?
lethal stump
yes the image that was posted earlier with the king in it
kind bobcat
Eden concept art.
sly kestrel
This one
signal forge
ohh
sly kestrel
Back when their old ideas seemed like it would fit into a console game
modest sequoia
sly kestrel
That...is new
signal forge
looks so cool
modest sequoia
Its a story beat from Joseph Campbell's heroic structure
lethal stump
atonement...but why do we have to atone ? shouldn’t it be the king ?
unless...
modest sequoia
Attonment with the father is just the last step before rebirth in heroic myths
Not actual father
lethal stump
im not looking at the father part anymore
sly kestrel
Try to keep in mind they had different ideas for the story back then, so the phrase “atonement with the father” could possibly not even mean anything to the current story
After all, we don’t have the king throwing spears at us at eden like they drew in the concepts
lethal stump
i wish we did 
sly kestrel
Same
orchid crypt
it does make me wonder if the king threw any of the physical spears we see lying around in battlefield though
broken basin
Maybe not
sly kestrel
Although there were tons of obstacles
Lightning, elder creatures dark rain, spears, flying debris, etc
Our phones would turn into bombs
lethal stump
that’s why they didn’t add it
sly kestrel
And androids will turn into nukes
lethal stump
broken basin
Well, they scrapped off most of the ideas to make the game lighter since it was for mobile and some of them looked unfinished
Like the crab monster
Or whatever u wanna call it
modest sequoia
Or because the rocks are enough
sly kestrel
But, technical limitations aren’t the only reason for scrapped ideas
Sometimes it’s simply a change of thoughts that scrap ideas
lethal stump
yeah rocks and krill are hard enough, imagine the poor moffs dealing with that slew of attacks !
signal forge
me ;-; a moth
signal forge
yeaa like twice
sly kestrel
Ok good, cuz this is major spoiler chat
hushed steeple
I went to eden just so i can listen to the credits, y'all were right the music is epic
signal forge
i know XD
broken basin
At least you know what a moth is when u are yourself a moth.
When I was a moth, I didn't even know "moth" is a term
orchid crypt
i wonder if it might also be for thematic reasons: right now, none of the obstacles or enemies really seem human or like something we're meant to fight against
sly kestrel
I remember moffs coming here and deleting the game after they realized that they have to die.....
I felt so bad
signal forge
I cried the first time I experienced the ending lol
lethal stump
do we know if sky is still meant to follow the hero’s journey ?
broken basin
hushed steeple
The ending is good in many ways
broken basin
Ok this is sort of off topic but I can't with this review
sly kestrel
Why...
why can’t u JUS COMPLETE THE GIEBHANDBEJFNFBDB
I wanna throw a crab at Brandon
hushed steeple
https://youtu.be/bQTH0bLyvh4
Take a watch, when ya got 11 hours
@modest sequoia beta doesn't look like that anymore gkjdjfkg
lethal stump
walk towards the bIG GLOWY THING
broken basin
I wanna bang my head on the table whenever I read this
modest sequoia
Tell me that doesn't look like the beginnings of epic boss arena fight tho
https://youtu.be/n6Y4_q2Rq_o
signal forge
I've glitched out of the map lots of times in Eden though... and have had to go home again
sly kestrel
Ahhh it cringes me reading that
signal forge
Sorry I keep going off topic
lethal stump
can someone answer my question—
do we know if sky is still meant to follow the hero’s journey ?
modest sequoia
Even have the king's scepter at 2:00
orchid crypt
yeah, it's down to whether the players realise at that point whether the game's nature is different to what they've been thinking up to that point -- that player clearly didn't recognise that they were meant to let go
sly kestrel
No it’s ok, getting silly and off topic is very common here
broken basin
You are the most knowledgeable moff I've ever seen tinyigluu
sly kestrel
But, let’s try not to get TOOOO off topic
broken basin
Yea
hushed steeple
Eden looked better in old verions
sly kestrel
Ehhh
broken basin
Eden red stones were blue before
sly kestrel
Before, eden was actually less impactful in my opinion
broken basin
Eden is still pretty amazing
sly kestrel
It was dry, bland
Ascension wasn’t as exiting
modest sequoia
It just looked unfinished
sly kestrel
I’m happy for the new eden we have now
signal forge
i'm a chibi moff
broken basin
Current Eden is the best we have
sly kestrel
Also
BACK TO LORE
lethal stump
i wish current eden was lighter, but other than that i love it úwù
modest sequoia
But really https://youtu.be/n6Y4_q2Rq_o
hushed steeple
Blue eden was best
broken basin
Tgc also said they may change things in Valley and gw in future
And I'm excited for that
lethal stump
yess
modest sequoia
Boss fight idea was atleast a thought they had
lethal stump
it wasn’t ever a fight, though
the king was trying to kill us, and we just keep trying to save him with our light
broken basin
Boss fight......emmmm doesn't look like something that can Exist in sky
signal forge
but blue eden looks unfinished in that video
modest sequoia
Platform, scepter... Got all the elements.
Just dont have the big dude himself
sly kestrel
I mean there were cool views, and the oob floating elders were pretty cool in the blue eden
But overall, it wasn’t that developed back then and if u played it, u would sort of know that the eden we have now is a lot better than the old updates
broken basin
I saw the early krill designs, they are horrifying.
signal forge
omg XD
broken basin
Especially those big teeth
lethal stump
i kinda wish we were able to oob easier in stormlock
sly kestrel
The music changed as well, and I’m happy about that too
signal forge
oob?
broken basin
Out of bounds
sly kestrel
Oh those were simply old dark creature designs and not specifically krill
But yes I loved them
hushed steeple
||Omlet on bowl||
sly kestrel
||Pizza on plate||
broken basin
It means a place where you're not supposed to go if you play normally.
signal forge
Oh I see
lethal stump
through walls, around barriers, etc
sly kestrel
It means what it says
Out
Of
Bounds(boundaries)
hushed steeple
||lore in #lore-discussion-spoilers ||
modest sequoia
The krill ai has improved a bit too
https://youtu.be/bQTH0bLyvh4?t=32161
sly kestrel
Amio I remember u typing an omelette on a bowl and u ask for us to get on topic 🤔
Nah I’m jk it’s fine
signal forge
heuheuheue
broken basin
The early krill was way too smart
sly kestrel
But hey, u spelled omelette wrong
U said omlet
hushed steeple
Well that was the full form of oob jay
signal forge
i think it can be both
lethal stump
early krill was wack
sly kestrel
Early crabs were wack
They were legit moving rocks
....someone insert lore idea or theory
Before we get yelled at
signal forge
crabs are krills' children
hushed steeple
Nothing is impossible
sly kestrel
It’s seen at valley and the beginning of forest as well
hushed steeple
Also on prairie temple
sly kestrel
Oh that, it’s seen at praire/isle architecture and on the megabird
broken basin
Seem like they say
Put mantas here
Amd
Put organic material here
They are some sort of indicators
hushed steeple
Maybe put skykid's soul here
sly kestrel
U kno, ur sort of close to my diamond production theory
lethal stump
yeah
where did that diamond-making concept go, it was here a while ago
modest sequoia
Should they have removed the terrrrrrrrifying dropping of the crebs from Eden?
https://youtu.be/bQTH0bLyvh4?t=32277
sly kestrel
Makes me a bit suspicious of ur intelligence
signal forge
omg kreb rain
hushed steeple
I watched that video moth ago
Still wonder how can someone play thru 11 hour long
lethal stump
i might draw up a doodle of how i think diamonds are made
sly kestrel
Hey brick
lethal stump
I watched that video moth ago
Still wonder how can someone play thru 11 hour long
procrastinating on their homework
modest sequoia
It wasn't all in one go
sly kestrel
Is it alright if I dm u a lil theory I have
modest sequoia
I assume
signal forge
they maybe took a break and edited it together?
lethal stump
of course !
sly kestrel
That took me....about 6 months to develop
hushed steeple
That powered diamond theory?
Why not post here jay
sly kestrel
The old lore chat dudes have all seen it but there are lots of new ppl that weren’t here during that time so yk what
I’ll post it here
signal forge
yey
sly kestrel
So this is about the theory of diamond production and the purpose of flying boats. Boats are mainly for the use of carrying pots of light. You can see these pots of light being made at prairie and I say pots of light because there are butterflies put inside them. In the wave emote cutscene, u can actually see one of the flying boats carrying pots of light.
These pots are being shipped to forest to make power diamonds, they combine the light with organic material at forest and use a diamond press to combine them into an artificial Star, or what we call “power diamond”. You can actually see the concept of this by looking at the forest temple door mural. To add even more details, right when u enter forest the text on the bottom says to “find the source of an ancient power”. The pic below is another way of looking how power diamonds are made and how forest built them. This diamond press in the picture is also seen at the golden wasteland, and there’s a krill flying around it. It may be broken down but it is noticeable that it is the same factory. Also the shipwreck at wasteland is seen to be carrying certain pieces of this diamond press, it goes to the top and sides. Now I know there’s boats everywhere and not all of them are carrying pots of light, so I jus assume they are for transportation since the people on the ground can’t fly naturally
Now when I was developing this, I was saying things that made more sense to the old lore chat dudes at the time
So if u have questions, ask
I’ll try to make it where it’s understandable to ALLL new people
lethal stump
it doesn’t seem like power diamonds are powered in forest, the husks simply made and sent to the diamond press factories to be powered
but other than that i very much agree
modest sequoia
Yep, hit the nail right with that theory 
signal forge
What would the power diamonds be used for?
sly kestrel
I didn’t say powered
I meant mADE
broken basin
Well, I've seen your Theory before, sooooo
lethal stump
they’re like electronics for them ! but...magic
sly kestrel
and there’s a lot more proof I have so I’ll update it more
Also,
In a Japanese live-stream they actually confirmed power diamonds were related to the downfall of the civilization
broken basin
Do you have any idea on why the top thing has rotating parts???
modest sequoia
Yep, the darkstone used in the process gradually corrupted the king
signal forge
Also,
In a Japanese live-stream they actually confirmed power diamonds were related to the downfall of the civilization
@sly kestrel do you have the link?
sly kestrel
Pins
lethal stump
it’s in the pins
sly kestrel
Dig deep
signal forge
modest sequoia
And everything else
lethal stump
signal forge
I'll go through the pins later then 🙂 thanks guys
sly kestrel
Also I’m hesitant to call it darkstone since it was an older concept of the tech
Back then, it was all different and the technology wasn’t made, it was something found and unearthed
But, the second material to the power diamonds is POSSIBLY darkstone
modest sequoia
Start with this
https://www.tomzhao.com/sky1
lethal stump
i wonder how exactly the diamonds were imbued with light
sure there might have been light creatures there but...how did they get the light from inside them into the diamonds ?
hushed steeple
Don't forget the holy line
"....that's just a theory ....a game theory"
modest sequoia
Whatever you call the rocks Karen's playing with during her cutscene
lethal stump
karen ?
sly kestrel
yes
hushed steeple
Kkkkkaaaren
lethal stump
forest elder isn’t a karen
signal forge
@hushed steeple do ppl call you krills?
modest sequoia
Which elder looks like a Karen?
hushed steeple
@signal forge yoy can call me amio ^^
sly kestrel
It does contribute to lore btw
lethal stump
everything contributes
signal forge
omlets too lol
lethal stump
their masks are related
sly kestrel
Ok I forgot it word by word hold UP
lethal stump
i was talking with mochi and they mentioned that the translation likely meant the masks, not the individuals
no it’s okay it was actually a recent modification to the translation
im just putting the info there
sly kestrel
Yeah Japanese translation b hard
lethal stump
mochi puts in a lot of work for us
modest sequoia
Yep, a ladder 
lethal stump
well, some of the levels are « there » per se so...i don’t know
hushed steeple
Now thay I think about it, does the spirit need to carry something with light in order to get up the upper levels?
They used boats i think
I saw in old beta cutscene
lethal stump
boat go brrrrrr
signal forge
boats inside vault?
modest sequoia
Smol boat!!!
hushed steeple
Anything is possible
Even the krills in vault also possible
lethal stump
it could just be a platform at that point, it would do the same thing
signal forge
chibi boat
broken basin
Also, dk if it matters or not, the vault diamond is made from the same material as the prairie pots.
lethal stump
darkstone !
broken basin
It makes the same sound when we land on it as the butterfly pots
signal forge
wow
lethal stump
it is able to contain light, so it makes sense to hold butterflies/mantas in it as well as use as power diamonds
^ i think
broken basin
Yep
sly kestrel
That sound effect is used for a lot of things btw
Doesn’t necessarily mean the same material
modest sequoia
That might just be easy reuse
lethal stump
everything is lore, jay
sly kestrel
no
signal forge
*ay
sly kestrel
Head canon yes
broken basin
Can you tell where else it's used.
I haven't noticed it yet except those two ;-;
modest sequoia
The donk sound?
broken basin
The butterfly pot landing sound
lethal stump
the cave in daylight prairie, the top of it has the donk sounds
hushed steeple
My bad
broken basin
It's early beta
sly kestrel
Slim boy
hushed steeple
There's no boat
lethal stump
platforms !
modest sequoia
Oh, wait. They got floating platforms over the place
sly kestrel
There’s also no krills in the sanctuary island
hushed steeple
In future there'll
If sunlight made crabs friendly
Then think about it what'll happen with krills
We can ride on them
broken basin
The platforms are fallen in sand but when the elevator goes up, it takes the platforms with it to that 2nd/1st floor.
So, maybe the diamond can connect with other smaller power diamonds on the bottom of the platforms
sly kestrel
Sunlight doesn’t make em friendly, I brought a hostile crab outside to the sun and it stayed hostile
One other speculation, hostile crabs have the black flakes, the non hostile ones we see don’t have any black flakes
broken basin
The only place where crabs exist in an open and well lit area is sanctuary archipelago.
modest sequoia
Makes me wonder, think that little area behind the bottom 4 man door in vault is like the cemetery for people who died from falling while constructing the vault?
signal forge
Imagine if you could tame crebs and have them follow you awwww
broken basin
Well, the place looks like it wasn't supposed to be exposed to common people. So, it was made hidden
modest sequoia
The workplace saftey memorial
lethal stump
vault was off limits to the public iirc
only scholars and the elders could go, i think
sly kestrel
u think
hushed steeple
Jay i saw that
lethal stump
well vault was off limits, thats actually canon
i’m adding my headcanon that only people who worked there and the elders could visit it
hushed steeple
Maybe brick build the vault using bricks
lethal stump
i am vault, you fools
modest sequoia
sly kestrel
Can u send me the link or whatever source where u got the “well vault was off limits, thats actually canon” idea
lethal stump
it’s in the pins somewhere
sly kestrel
It’s not talking about vault
It’s about the archives
That was a forbidden place that kept forbidden knowledge and it was off limits to ppl
hushed steeple
Alef's nightmare memories
lethal stump
oh, i equated them with each other
gray bridge
i'd like to think that main vault was like a public library unless it was built after the fall of civilisation
lethal stump
alef’s bar mitzvah
sly kestrel
I mean, when ur extinction is near bc the king was being dumb, I don’t think it’s a bad idea to collect all knowledge and history to pass on to future generations 👀
signal forge
would've been useful if we could read the books lol
lethal stump
could everyone read though ? this is a feudal society afterall, and in feudal societies, most people couldn’t read
sly kestrel
We’ll see that’s the thing
They didn’t need to read
The vault lanterns aren’t books exactly
But they are sort of related to books in our real life world
In the concepts, they are projectors
lethal stump
true
however scrolls and books do exist in game
so there is some written language
sly kestrel
Scholars do hehe, lets kidnap a scholar spirit
lethal stump
some written language that might be used in the projections
where did that come from, ay
i’d imagine so
since only rich people can do on vacation
sly kestrel
Also, one veryyyyyy valuable ancestor is the belonging grandpa, he was confirmed to have snuck into the archives and he was a scholar and knew what he was doing so if we are kidnapping anyone for information
It’s him
lethal stump
we can reasonably assume the people in sanctuary could be higher class
gray bridge
everyone we interrogate grandpa when he comes as ts
sly kestrel
Show us what u saw
toxic delta
i dont know if the trees in game are alive or not they could be fossilised since i have never seen "leaves" unless the hilly attachments we see jutting out at the bottom is a leaf
lethal stump
belonging grandpa being honked at angrily by a bunch of skids:
sly kestrel
Alsooooo, I think I remember a dev or mod saying that small details like the book from the bookworm isn’t much canon
I forgot the exact quote but I wouldn’t look too much into lore about the book from the bookworm spirit
hushed steeple
Well talking about sanctuary spirit
Does anyone explained the line "forgotten promise and hope"(slt) I went offline soon when I asked before and when I came online there was 100000000 new msgs
toxic delta
or the forests the vault trees look more astral than anything
signal forge
we'll throw him into eden then hehehe
sly kestrel
....he already dead tho
lethal stump
everyone is dead except us and the elders
hushed steeple
Elders are half dead tho
lethal stump
yeah
hushed steeple
Undead mobs
lethal stump
they’re like
in purgatory
gray bridge
tbh i don't think they were killed, they're just... there but not there
signal forge
elders hehehe
hushed steeple
Elders killed people?