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it's fine 
Was exploring battlefield. I wonder if this is a power crystal
Probably
Ahh I can't send the image
There's like a diamond shaped pipe on his chest
The thing I'm standing on
🧇 🍿
it's either it's a bug or it's something that hasn't been implemented for everyone yet
@gray bridge its not a bug, just some adjustments and have been tried to beta first
It was a bit confusing for me a bit when i see it in beta🥴
I noticed that the symbol on this shield was a diamond while the symbol on Wasteland elder's shield was a sun.
Who were they fighting with??
Wasteland elder also used diamond shield
ooh okay so
backstory - wasteland was an industrial place where factories were making power diamonds out of raw materials and sources of light, like the butterflies from prairie and isle
so obviously wasteland is really polluted and wasteland-ish now, that s from the production of the diamonds
There are butterflies in wasteland too
so the sun, or like for nature and non pollution had a civil war with the diamond producers
Probably
yeah there are butterflies in almost every realm, just the ones used for production were sourced from prairie and isle
mainly sourced
Maybe
it was depicted on the forest factory door
But I'm still confused about the wasteland elder... Which he took
wasteland elder was sun shield, wasn't he?
yeh the elder's shield is a sun
oh i initially thought they were having war with the light creatures
weird
hmm, so the constellation shows a heater shield...wait, the murals as well? i don't remember those
lemme try searching it up
hmm, it is
i wonder if that means he switched shield types, or if the silhouettes/murals just use that shape because it's more easily recognised as a shield at that level of detail
because a rounded/octagon shape on a mural would just look like a ball at a glance
but then they could've just as easily put the sun icon on the heater shields and the diamonds on the rounded shields to avoid the confusion either
Great ginsy
oh yehhhh
sort of makes sense considering most of the battle is like, by the front of the waste temple, which leads to vault
im assuming that those with the octosided shield were defenders of vault, which would make sense IF the wasteland elder’s actual shield is the octo one
well we dont know the cause of the battle, i wouldnt be naming teams
its up to u tho 
i guess there's nothing stopping him from just picking up a fallen enemy shield if he really needed it, but narratively speaking, i think we're supposed to believe he was in octagon/sun side?
team sun and team diamond haha jkjk
why does this sound like a game of pokemon now
xDDD
Btw the Eden's weapons storage room has sunshield and swords
team sun and team diamond, two opposing rival gangs in the all new Pokemon Sky game coming 20XX!
wait a minute...i think we've seen those swords somewhere else before
wait there was a weapons storage room?
There's
someone went to explore eden a while ago, i think those swords appeared at the end of the first part of eden
That room with 1 wing light.. in 1st area of eden
courtesy of bluespirit back up here: https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/632004389137154048/731691094894444595
but then there're sun shields in that same building too...
that really does make it seem like a civil war broke out
i don't think any diamond shields were spotted in the area, but if the swords were meant to be weapons of team diamond (as suggested by the relative shades of the weapons and shields in that image above) but they appeared alongside the sun shield in storage in this building here, it'd suggest they all originated from the one military force
there's a cracked shield alongside the two swords in that image bluespirit took above, yeah, but he also had another one from that same building showing an undamaged sun shield that pretty much looks like it's just being stored there
that doesn't look like the position you'd find it in if a fight had broken out here
maybe it is a trophy room 
i suppose it could be, but we've got stuff from both sides in there rolling with the above theory
so much ambiguity 
we need a Lore season!
The sun shields seem to have been used by elder sized spirits, which i find weird cus there have been no spirits the size of elders
The shields is as big as the spirits actually
Dunno if its relevant to wats happening here tho
And where did the the transparent material came from on chill spirit's sunglasses
Sunglass in stone age .... Not fits
maybe stones painted white and the yellow part is just golden pieces
like the stuff you see in prairie xDD
Then how can they see while wearing a stone?
Ah ye fair
also glass isn't THAT hard to make XD
Glass aint in sky tho
They confirmed that so rn I’m jus thinking it’s some random sky material
So if our ancestors don't have eyes (even skykids) maybe they saw objects using echolocation?
actually wait, do spirits have eyes?
the questgiver appears to have eyes, but not sure if those are fake
the crying spirit would be a bit nonsensical though if it was crying without eyes though
true dat
Umm I have a theory about vault...it might sound a lil weird but I think of it as a library. Where there are all the spirits stored, as memories. Like how the ghost manta of vault is called as memory wishperer. The spirits of vault are actually priests who stayed there to make sure that the spirits were safe.
I agree with you about the stored memories and knowledge part, vault is a library
BUT
Spirits weren’t always spirits, they were ppl once too, and their spirits weren’t stored there. The praying girl had graves for dead scholars most likely but there’s no proof that their spirits were there
That's basically what vault really is
why is there a graveyard in a library
idk
but who buried them after they died?
Ppl who were alive
Ok guys I didn't know it before... Just noticed while relieving a spirit in sanctuary... The orb which is in spirit body is darkness
When I burnt that orb coincidentally the quest for "melt 10 darkness" showed completed
I had melted 9 darkness before relieving the spirit
So spirit memories stays in darkness?
Until we melt that and relieve the spirit?
Wow
It was sort of a game mechanic added in a later update but I guess there could be more into it
oh, was looking for information about the King... thanks
there were temple guards as well weren't there...
So after you completed the bell quest for the quest giver, the cutscene shows what looks like baby manta swimming in the water and then flying
What kind of the creatures are they
someone pointed out they were from early game concepts
maybe as the game progresses we’ll see more of the old concept arts be implemented ingame
i feel like the cosmetics in this season doesnt really match the vibe of sky, but tbh if they were able to make flying stone boats and store information in stone lanterns then they can definitely make sunglasses and beach chairs 
i hope they improve on the valley races!
Hey Guys me and some friends found this at the forest temple, I'm not sure if this symbol has any relevance but I remember it being similar to the box that was on the boat in sanctuary. Any thoughts?
whats with the second mega manta in vault that shows up as shadow when you deep call
Bug
o ty
if its a bug then ive been seeing it since the day i joined sky
Hi! I just discovered the proof
Ok guys I didn't know it before... Just noticed while relieving a spirit in sanctuary... The orb which is in spirit body is darkness
When I burnt that orb coincidentally the quest for "melt 10 darkness" showed completed
@hushed steeple there's a theme of creatures being either completely in the light or the dark. But there's also a theme of corruption of light creatures. So either the spirits were creature of light that got corrupted or they were more neutral in life
That dark creatures aren’t necessarily evil
These sunbathing crabs didn’t attack me
Wait I’ll find a way to send
There. These crabs behave differently from the ones in the caves
those have attacked me before—
ajsjdhdhf
wait let me check
do they really attack?
they're definitely not as hostile as normal crabs or the one in the caves
Nope they never attacked
I guess they don’t like brick but fr tho
They are completely friendly
The ones that do attack you have the black spots on them, I noticed this a while ago
This led me to believe they weren’t always bad creatures
Tho I am confused why the ones in the mountain are more hostile than usual crabs and the island ones aren’t hostile at all
baby darkness
This led me to believe they weren’t always bad creatures
Tho I am confused why the ones in the mountain are more hostile than usual crabs and the island ones aren’t hostile at all
@sly kestrel right. No hesitation
I used myself as a personal punching bag destruction while someone else helped the spirit get by
Also when u throw the spirits light at them they dont attack you at all
like if they are in the circle
Does *sun light subdue them?
time to test
Hello! I have a gift for you all
https://twitter.com/thatskygame/status/1282813297717243905
Thought you folks might enjoy this tweet thread!
uuuuuh imma ask for a second if thats fine. so when we go to the office, we see concept art for the games that say something corresponding to the constellation. for example, the isle of dawn has the word/theme of birth and the forest has the word/theme of teenage. does that mean that the whole game is just talking about the circle of life?
Thats one of the interpretations! Theres a few other analogies as well
YOOOO
YOOOOO! first try as well! that was my first guess tbh
Concept art very cool
the old isle elder looks like that styx river guy sending off skykids like they're dead souls
Charon I believe
yeah that guy
I think jus a ferryman in general was one of his motivation designs
Also ash
Thank you very much
ah the ferryman in some aspects work as the one who delivers souls right?
@hollow pier HAGEEEEE
New concept art, yr gonna love it
The old bird idea was interesting. Like the little sky kids were nestlings finally leaving.
Also yeah, in a lot of concepts I read that the isle elders job was to guide souls to the megabird and shepherd them
oh
I think I like this concept the most, 2nd favorite is the vulture idea
And I think I see a whale in that mural over there 
those statues are the same as the return shrine ones right o:
The light holding statues seem like a concept that lasted a rlly long time
why dont i see those arts in their twitter? 
i love all their concepts—
i love aLL OF THE STUFF THE TEAM MAKES KSKSJHDHDF
Some of the early concept art are goooooooood
OH MYF ODKDKDOFOOF
merry christmas
I think I like this concept the most, 2nd favorite is the vulture idea
@sly kestrel this concept really appeals to those of us active in the lore channel. Lol
wonder why they chose a vulture
They tend to bring back old assets by experimenting them and put them on future use
wonder why they chose a vulture
Vulture is like death angel for me
i guess its supposed to be ironic? lol
in tibetan culture vultures are entrusted to bring souls of the dead to the sky, this is called a 'sky burial' actually
in tibetan culture vultures are entrusted to bring souls of the dead to the sky, this is called a 'sky burial' actually
@gray bridge
That one! Where vulture will feast on the deady body
This is actually a good concept that could connect to 'sky burial'
i actually really like the idea of the isle elder being a vulture, maybe its just me but it looks so grand and magestic
but also intimidating for your first come around
amaze
reminds me of that giant crow in dark souls
reminds me of the zoroastrian burial where they also leave corpses out in the open on a tower for vultures to feast ln
isle elder comes, and sc00ps you away to the magical world
But if they turn the isle elder into vulture then the rest of elders must be animals related to rituals as well
yeah i think they were! i think someone mentioned long ago
something about when i asked about what that dead bird was in valley's citadel
i forgot what they were, maybe we'll see all the animals when they release more images this week!
(also i kinda miss the old isle, as much as they developed it to make it more simple for new players to understand my little baby me did not understand where to go because of the... giganticness of it
the old isle seems to be relatively one track)
Some early concept arts are actually great and can be part of the game
even me now after going through beta didn't understand where all the spirits were
ig its why they try to keep current isle barren. like its big, but theres not much there
I wonder if they will part vault and isle of having seasons as well
ive never play the old beta isle builds but from what ive heard, it was too long for a tutorial and too detailed for a beginner realm
The old isle is actually great but the tutorial is the downside as what you said
when i was a small moth everything in this game was absolutely humongous, wasteland's boneyard felt like went on forever.
isle is fine for me its just that its so massive and theres very little or camouflaged landmarks to it so when i was tiny and small, i would keep getting lost and go more towards the right of the map
The current isle is too big and isolated
the most interesting place is the island behind the clouds, but theres a wind against you in the tunnel and it easily just kicks you out 
id love to explore old isle. i wanna ride that boat to prairie yo
I wonder if the old maps of the old beta will comeback as new area
same, i miss that little banana bird even though i never met him
will be missed
iirc the music we hear in prairie now was the music that played in prairie back in beta
I love the temple on old wasteland cause theres a lot of place you can hide from krills
I watch videos from old beta
i loved the design of the old isle but yes it does look pretty complicated
i wish they didnt just demolish it though

rip aviary and old isle
there were apparently dark children (assumed dead) on the beach from assumingely eden. for me, playing the game over and over many times, i think thats really creepy and clever but only once you play the game once or twice and realize "oh my god, holy honk. those are.."
as a moth you probably would just think they were statues or sumth
i heard devs have plans to bring aviaray back somehow
But we will never know whether they might bring back the old maps and replace the current but more furnish
Some of old beta maps are actually on top
aviary is well loved
If they bring all of old beta maps right now with the current graphics then it will look majestic
i love a lot of the old maps i would get my phone blown up from the heat just to explore the big prairie islands and the isle and the forest
even if it was just once i would love to explore and sneeek peek 
(not my image)
i mean... i wanna explore every in and out
i wanna go on that little boat ride through the islands as well 
Not to fully compare but the old maps are more like Sky than the current map
heres a playlist of the old beta version of sky (aka sky light awaits)
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4S1wIq9bF1x_tulu6U-CNV80HyjVCZct
(just realized the krill had a traditional red light and when they'd see you their light would turn white and they would make absolutely no sound
scary)
Wow old wasteland aren't that isolated than current
silent krill are scarier than loud krill imo
There are a lot of places you can hide from krills inside the temple in the old beta 😭
Now its like a race to the other side cause you don't want to get caught
temple ? like in battlefield ?
No the temple after the entrace in wasteland
The one with one krill
There are a lot of torn buildings that you can hide from krills, now its more corrupted water
Plus its not scary to farm 😭
Lore discussion started around 4:30 am for me.....

I missed the party
it’s kinda conflicting
on one hand, the devs improved on their old work (light awaits) to make it something they like (cotl)
on the other, everyone loves how light awaits looks and wishes we could have stuff from it back
I wonder if we would have said the same if it was the other way around 
I still can’t believe what was announced on news
WE ARE GETTING ONE FOR 7 DAYS AHHHH
And I like how they did the “calling all story, lore, art fans” 
that's us
There is no butterflies in vault
because they're only a memory there
Ok guys if sunlight makes crabs friendly then think about it what would happen if somehow a krill comes in sunlight.... We can ride on that?👀




So it’s been confirmed that the Dawn Elder is the narrator at the beginning?
Not quite, it was an old concept. But he still might be the narrator
yeah, that just confirms that's how they were going to do the intro level before, not necessarily what's going on now
voice by morgan freeman
Ok so narrator means that one as well who talks to us in intro?
Yes
Interesting
It has more sense tho cause of the voice and he guides
King's guidance is Isle Elder
It’s most likely not the narrator
6 elders and the isle elder is one of the 6
When the narrator was talking, he/she spoke as a person outside of those six elders
Hello my favorite bunch of lore addicts!
So, what are your theories for the weird looking alien heads in sanctuary?
Huh
Isnt sometimes narrator tends to 3rd person?
The broken bells?
There are no alien heads
Possibility that Isle elder can be narrating thru 3rd person
Its the manta
If u look at the doc given to us, it shows that it was actually an old concept design as well
So they are simply bringing it back to sanctuary
King's Educator is the Vault Elder
It probably is a ruin like most other things on the islands. Symbolizing the mantas and new fish bird? things
I think it’s a manta
Yeah I think it is
Not many birds in the sanc now that I rlly think about it
reminds me of a whale tail lol
Its always manta in the end
And the season is sort of manta themed
No but what are those fishy things
Fish mantas
i call them fish mantas
Or
Cute
babies!
Idk actually but I would jus call em a type of sky manta
And here was I hoping we would get just a little bit more lore 
If you look here it is stages of manta
Jus like how birds have a variety of species with different forms
They are like mosquitos. Born in he water, and fly later on
That’s an old concept but yeah
Still applicable tho since all of the manta in pics are in the game
Yeah but it might not have the same meaning that is being implied in the concept
We'll never know
We need canon lore now
Some of the old concepts are possible to be lore since some are part of the game
Can’t depend on em tho
Bad odds to jus guess on concepts
I could’ve sworn I saw ginsy typing
That's why you make theories
What would it look like if they combine old map with current map?
Most of the old maps are actually good
On the old beta
heres a playlist of the old beta version of sky (aka sky light awaits)
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4S1wIq9bF1x_tulu6U-CNV80HyjVCZct
Here are the playlist
You can see the old maps on the gameplay
Of course its not its old what did you expect?
I need to put together something that shows all the different references to mantas as well as all the types
Then idk why u are discussing it in the first place silent sky 
There's like 3 different versions that appear in the glyths
i think silents trying to say what sky might look like if they somehow incorporated old beta sky with the live sky we have
Why do i feel like Jay is against every ideas and theories here?
When did I say or ever do that
He plays devils advocate sometimes, It makes us think more imo
You question every ideas and theories and won't even agree on them
I quite enjoy what Jay has to say
I agree based on factual things, but if it’s non canon I will tell em what is and simply that
I don’t shut down ideas, I simply say what I know that is canon and what’s not
What I was confused about was how u were comparing the maps from old beta to the current sky version
Hey! I don’t really hangout here so what’s canon?
Basically everything in the live game except for the ||office & debatibly oreo||
And in the pins under the canon doc
i think silents trying to say what sky might look like if they somehow incorporated old beta sky with the live sky we have
Oh okay
I mean, of course u have freedom to share what u think whether it’s canon or not
But I don’t immediately shut it down and be rude about it if that’s what ur trying to imply about me
They have a point though. It’s not very nice when someone is trying to show off a theory they have and get immediately shut down becuase it’s “not canon”. You should just be more open to what people want to say instead of putting them down like that
I never said you shut it down what I'm saying is you don't just disagree on an idea cause of possiblity of it being not part of canon
there's some uh... soundtrack that got cut... wasn't there?
i believe there's cut music/soundtracks that was mentioned in an interview, but whether they were ever actually released is another question
If isle grandpa was vulture he still would be a grandpa to us 
@brittle gust I think Jay’s trying to narrow down his own theories bc I know that’s what I do, I personally like to eliminate what’s not canon
It’s not anything personal
Well if u want to share an idea silent sky , I’m not going to stop you
That’s all imma say for now
My bad if I did seem rude
If isle grandpa was vulture he still would be a grandpa to us
A cool elder
minor sidenote, but if anyone mentions something being confirmed as canon by a dev, i'd really love to see sources for that where possible just to see if it's possible to dig a bit more into their words or if there's anything else hidden there
Its okay forgiven but please if you want to make someone's idea realistic or canon, modify it thoroughly
minor sidenote, but if anyone mentions something being confirmed as canon by a dev, i'd really love to see sources for that where possible just to see if it's possible to dig a bit more into their words or if there's anything else hidden there
@orchid crypt well the pins is a good place but there was also some dropped knowledge lost in this chat
The search bar might help
U can search up ash or reika’s messages on here
Here is concept art
yeah, i've just come across info sometimes in interviews on random websites that might not be on this discord as well, so just thought i'd mention it
That looks like a monster
Also it seems he is harvesting light from the fish
it has the same pose and everything!
see? not all concepts get scrapped, some get repurposed like this one 
The dolphins in that are intriguing
those creatures around the "king" on the concept art look pretty dolphin-like, maybe the game was meant to look more animal-themed before? our sky kids still look a lot like birds with the way they fiddle with their capes sometimes
tgc show me the dolphins 
Looks like a hybrid of megabird and the king mural
At one point we imagined Isle of Dawn to be the transition from the real world into the world of Sky . "
I wouldn’t even say concepts get scrapped they’re just what they are, concepts, one step in implementing something in game
Different doesn’t mean scrapped
That’s a better way of saying it
or they just havent made it into the game yet 
i think that would have been an interesting concept, and they should have kept on with it
after all, we're only at the beginning 
@manic gyro mmm no, it would ruin the feel of sky
at least for the prologue
Like the huge ark getting repurposed into the forgotten Ark
There were a lot of concepts put into the season of sanctuary too
It could become a citadel, like valley's...
Oh the archives was actually in a form based on a scene from the movie “Laputa castle in the sky”
.....I think
i think sky's bronze-age aesthetic has already been tampered with considerably
Maybe it could be from a new kingdom
Me neither 
need an excuse plot for the ||office|| portal
Beta isle was shorter, no wonder they changed it
Though the boat thing could turn out really good
Yes
whoa, the atmosphere in some of those is quite different compared to what we got as the "final product"
i realize they're going to give us concept art everyday, life is great
i like how the colours were changed to reflect the dawn part of isle, not really bright but it isn't so night-ish either
archives owo
Also this
Going by the mysterious moose king mural, I noticed it sort of corresponds to another concept of the megabird on how empty souls are reborn and there’s a cycle of life that goes around. Notice that the starting creatures don’t have blue orbs and later on in their migration, they have the blue orbs, and this happens all in a repeated circle
The one on the lower right is actually good
Oooou my bad if I interrupted
the style and feeling of the murals has evolved a lot 
hot dating
sera no
is that not what it says? i wasn't reading it as anything else 
however, i do also like the nostalgia that the present isle intro gives me... playing Shadow of the Colossus with my uncle 14 years back in time
Any idea what is happening here?
The creatures are getting their orbs
Well.....idk actually
Ash wouldn’t mind if I asked her about this right? I mean it is an old concept....
It could indicate that there's no chance the same soul would go in the same bodies
“If a creature dies unnaturally, it’s corpse will be left behind”
Possibly
No, not dead, they are in torment
I’m going by speculations of other concepts I’ve seen
It’s very similar to the Megabird life cycle of migration
Are those clouds or the sea?
The bottom looks like a desert
Ah
maybe that part is the separation between life and death
Do journey and sky exist in the same universe?
Looks like waves to me now that I think about it
Yeah
I mean, the creatures do look like fishes
Or they could be the cloth creatures...
And I noticed that the birds don't seem to be entering the wave like area
maybe that's how they were able to ascend to fly from being in the water?
Birds, fishes, which one
HAHAAA
like those smol flippy mantas in sanctuary just went flipflipsplashsplash and BOOM they were out of the water
i'd say fish and birds don't really have a distinction in sky considering just about all creatures fly, but then we've got crabs and the random fish in the home pond 
I feel like it’s more of a metaphorical thing going on
I think they were under developed mantas
How fish are flying and their skeletons being in water and the glowy soul orbs
They were still being evolved
I never knew I would investigate on an old concept
Each cell multiplying
Also, did you guys noticed that the colour of the dark plants in sanctuary isn't as green as the other realms?
We just activated what they needed
so if we go anticlockwise on that picture it's like... the fishy thingies dive into the water, die, then they ascend with the blue thingies or something?
@hushed steeple mammals they would be
Maybe the ones on the bottom werent able to be able to ascend to the moose king like the others, and that’s why it was bound to the seas
And yes
Instead of megabird
I shall say moose king
can we call the one in the mural in vault mooseman too
Well in the current vault mural it looks more like a crown
But it’s jus this specific concept that gives the vibe of a moose or deer
Megabird + moose man + moose king =
Mega moose man king
Correct me if im wrong, isn't Moose king of the forest?
GRR IT JUST COULD BE ART STYLE
i mean considering how the isle elder was originally a vulture, im gooonnnnaaaa guess the rest of the elders were concepted as some sort of animal
I wonder if we can find any references to just the kings crown somewhere
Forest was a lynx
Maybe it was made out of bone and darkstone
It's fun to imagine what it would look like
why did i think prairie elder would be a gigantic butterfly
Hahaha
Im in love with the vulture elder if he would ever exist in the game
Oh yeah I remember them saying that they were originally going to be animals, and later updates they became humanoids wearing animal masks but eventually they jus removed the entire animal vibe
I guess we jus have to wait until they release the docs
I like it but i found it scary
sorry this might not be relevant to live but whaaaat, do the light-holding statues correspond to the elders o:
This is as similar as that concept art... The creatures have a orb near their head when they passed the king (I guess)
the creatures in the fisrt pic look a lot like krills
it is a child's game
Mhmm
The king's half body ... 
Quick lil comparison
ooooooooooooooo
Megabird ❤
Poor prince, his head is stuck in the grass
King*
Oop yes king
Tho I'm not sure
Well in earlier concepts amio, the prince and king were the same person and when the king supported the megabird and before he was crowned king at valley
He was the prince
does the prince still exists in the game?
K sir
Maybe we will find him oob
We jus gotta WAFO blue spirit
now is the time the devs show up to give us a light 
He's in Mario world
What if we request tgc to make a Land of Lore somewhere oob 🥺
They won’t do that
don't kill the hope please
It’s a bit too early in development
I sort of like how they slowly give us the story bit by bit and it’s like a bit of foreshadow for a big lore answer that will be revealed later on
Like a story development
They did say that it wasn’t fully written out yet
So they are constantly revealing and making the story
One day we’ll have our answers
If they revealed the full story now ... It'll be kinda boring ??
Sort of, but it’s a bit hard to explain
Sky is the first chapter after all
Jus think of it like this
Every good story needs to have a good development first
:o
from my part, I want the story but I also want to keep speculating and never getting answers
it doesn't make sense but... 
So there will be another game? A sequel?
We dunno
Maybe like updates to sky but idk
A second half of the game could be possible
I just don't know how they would fit a sequel in the game considering its cyclical mechanics
It could be a prequel about the elder's fall
we live as spirits haha
They'll collect candies instead of wax
Prequel will be amazing actually
agree
We could play as....a spirit that lived through the events of the kingdom
But idk, playing as a skykid in a prequel wouldn’t make much sense since they didn’t exist until after the fall
maybe they did
maybe play as an ancestor 
What if they change the Sky instead?
we are megabird
We are the darkness instead
How bout we play as a manTA
🧇
Sky: Kingdoms of Light and Darkness
Play as Baby krill
sky: creatures of the light
Right now I’m jus dreaming but if
IFFFF
There is a prequel, I can almost guarantee that we won’t play as skykids
Sky: Kingdoms of Light and Darkness
It is actually good, but might not be children friendly
Rated r sky 
Well... 
but... eden
They might change gameplay and concept in future
It is actually good, but might not be children friendly
@brittle gust Just take the Darkness bit, and it is
stuff can be family friendly but be scary too
like rapunnzel is a kids movie but it has dark themes
Sky: Kingdoms of Light and Darkness
I think this will need fighting or something
scary is part of life
thats what wasteland is for owo
What if all this time Light is the evil
i don't think there's a 'true' evil ya know
True true
I mean, now that I think about it
A second game would most likely be a prequel, I mean we sort of topped off the story when we saved the elders and saved the fallen. We also do a lot of spirit saving in sky cotl so idk about sky being the first chapter since it seems like it was the end of a great story
Now we jus need a game to experience what happened in the past with the entire kingdom and the ancestors “mistakes”
yess
I mean, now that I think about it
A second game would most likely be a prequel, I mean we sort of topped off the story when we saved the elders and saved the fallen. We also do a lot of spirit saving in sky colt so idk about sky being the first chapter since it seems like it was the end of a great story
Now we jus need a game to experience what happened in the past with the entire kingdom and the ancestors “mistakes”
They could make this into a movie hahaha
why
It has a great storyline
much better to play than watch
Do you guys will like it if they bring back the weapons?
what weappons?
Wdym bring back?
man i dont think sky should be made as a movie bc somehow it would be butchered or something
They were weapons before but got scrap
can you show us?
U mean like how avatar was butchered when it was put into live action 🤢
I need pics of this 
I saw it on yt but i don't think im allowed to say the channel
Hm
ah
Yes
oh. him
jay..
yeah no it was never ingame
Yeah don’t show it
Yup yup
any content from him is hacked, so lets not heh
if you think about it generally anything that is not a movie but then is made into one turns out bad
yeah
I saw on early concept art the sky kid is fighting the darkness using light
I thought it would’ve been a cool concept
Butchered...anything...is harsh. Creative license is a thing as well as things not being easily transferable from one medium to another.
i mean technically we already fight darkness with light
one good example is burning dark plants 
the other is bowling crabs
But the kid is using some light thingy
@brittle gust back then, U were supposed to save him and give him the light
It changed of course
Yeah u would save dark creatures
awn
If krills can die
I want to save the krills!
Who knows, they might add that to a later update
I wouldn't mind saving the krills
Light Krills
Oooooooooh guys did u see the like early concept arts creatures?
And yesss
Idk why but I always felt a slight compassion for the krills and what prolly happened causing them to be so aggressive and hateful
Dark creatures
Crabs are scared of them 
Maybe some day we'll tell the story of Krill
Ooooooooooooh
i really want to know how they have that light from their eye 
Poor krills i think they were good bois before but turned dark 😭
Well it’s sort of a motivation from journeys cloth guardians
The red and blue light they have
any theories you have on that? 
thank goodness the crabs don't do that anymore
The turrets may be guard to the King's kingdom
and spiders would be realy creepy
Got corrupted as well
Don’t forget the jaw creatures 🤗
Oh I saw those
Sky is a spiritual successor to Journey, but that doesn't mean it's beholden to the story told in Journey.
If the creatures were in the sky what do we use in defending?
Just run for our lights hahaha
Obstacles
the hopes we wouldn't get eaten
i am very happy that kaonashi/no-face-like monster isn't in the game anymore
those creatures dont have eyes, so i'd assume we'd have to be really quiet
(maybe sound mechanic?)
I’ve seen some creepy stuff in the concepts actually
Floating faces that are actually creatures
Masks that hide in the clouds and stare at you
i am very happy that kaonashi/no-face-like monster isn't in the game anymore
@gray bridge
Can we see it????
It looks like that asteroid monster from starwars
I’ve seen some creepy stuff in the concepts actually
Floating faces that are actually creatures
Masks that hide in the clouds and stare at you
@sly kestrel
That is super GRIM, im loving it
i mean maybe it might come back who knows
if it does i'll probably have worse nightmares
That's kind of the point of concept, get an idea on paper and see what sticks. Doesn't mean it'll be used, but also means a concept could be shelved for future use or repurposed from the original idea.
Ktjn u are talkin a lil bit more in here than usual
Taking a break?
Am I not allowed to come in here?
And yeah, a lot of old concepts made it to sanctuary
Noooo ur allowed
I like it when ur here 
please hop in more often, we need lore 
i've never seen you around here before but hello
those creatures dont have eyes, so i'd assume we'd have to be really quiet
(maybe sound mechanic?)
@woven perch ok, we would all fail spetacularly if we met them, because all we just do is scream and run with lit candles
||i have seen tentacles in ark mural.... Wondering if those are belongs to that octopus of dark creatures concept art👀 ||
It's highly unlikely any new info will come from me, story will be revealed in-game when we're ready.
Well tentacles are new
Never heard anyone see it like that before
The dark octopus would be cool. In the idea thread I see a lot of push for an underwater level
underwater level sounds kinda conceptually difficult, given how the sky kids behave when they swim
we don't have nearly as much mobility as we do when we're flying
They swim super slow 2mph
Unless ur a chibi....
that octopus reminds me of that other octopus from ff but i forgot which ff
unless under valley's lake
I agree, I was thinking it could be more like the lake and underneath it
How bout the corrupted water will turn tentacles when you are near it?
This... Maybe octopus buried in sand
O.O
oh hey 
Oh thassa boat I’m pretty sure
This... Maybe octopus buried in sand
@hushed steeple
I think that's the ark buried on the sand?
those are the back halves of boats, but they def look like tentacles!
They could also be arms with some rlly messed up broken wrists
thats the fun of theorizing, sooo many possibilities 
There's no wrong answers
Who knows that an octopus is Hidden in ark and we'll be able to see that in future season
Those are swan heads poking out of the sande :V
U rlly want that octopus idea huh 
i'd like that amio 
imagine a giant octopus swimming through the sky wewewew
When you're just farming and a tentacle holds you
we've got floating jellyfish already, so shape-wise, an octopus may not be too far off
I'm imagining him wrapping around some ruins
It's ink drains our light if it is dark
I mean, if they can animate sea turtles, birds and jellies
I think they can do an octopus
A giant spider that like in limbo
i think it's visually a bit off to be an enemy though, because octopi tend to be quite round -- the hostile lifeforms we've encountered so far are pretty angular in shape
.... squids
give them spikes
yeah, a more angular squid might do the trick
We will shoot light from our chest to defeat this creatures
I feel like the dev. are just reading all this and taking notes
Like it plays off as nice buts it’s not
@fossil iris I completely read that wrong 🤭
Why y'all taking octopus as our enemy... That could be our friend tho
we're just actual sky kids fantasising about what kind of crazy adventures we can go on at this point
lore channel:
tgc: write that down write that down!!!
ready to surprise us witha a halloween season
Concepts say otherwise 
A good octopus will hold your hand
octopus friend could be giving that skykid a hug for all we know 
I wonder if regular spirits not from wasteland also encounter krills?
octopus friend could be giving that skykid a hug for all we know
@woven perch yeah, the octopus will love em to death
Hug the light out of you 
What if instead of a big creature they're small and latch onto you
And slowly drain your light
Like a little leach
and more notes are being taken
Let's post our octopi ideas in #wishlist-and-ideas-archived 😈
Oh yea
World War Crabs
XDDDDD
Crab stacc
thy are already annoyng as they are
i mean, if we had enough crabs in an area... future season material 
Oooooh all Realms has crabs now
imagine how much more difficult GW would be if they did this grouping thing?
Before sanctuary Prairie hasn't
Isle ?
wait not isle?
Do the crabs in the new area look any different than the crabs in the other areas?
Not rlly
I swear they're lighter in color
Except Isle
Must be the lighting
Except for the non hostile crabs at the islands
there are GOOD crabbs!
nah it could be the lighting
And yeah it’s lighting why some seem different
I took a white pale aggressive crab outside and it turned gray
when the dark ones try to go to the light it turns to ash
when the dark ones try to go to the light it turns to ash
@mortal viper wait what
Oh that’s a result of server splitting or carrying a crab too far from its original place
It happened once at the jelly fish cave
i might have to disagree with you on that one
it attacked me but I dodge
Bruh
Server splitting yk
Also I love how there are so many more jelly fish. They're honestly my favorite creature in sky
evil coincidence
And I am sure the sun has nothing to do with them turning into ash
I always smuggle a bunch outside
But their sound is kinda mosquito type
boop thats interesting :o
?
our capes have that pattern too
The recharge!
the belonging ones do specifically 
it's probably feathers rather than scales?
yeah i noticed on the underside of kiki ts cape there's that pattern too
I’m seeing a lot of different ppl react to some of the stuff we say
U guys are open to join the convo too you know 
Featherly Scale?
There is a robust, already established lore for Sky. No need to borrow your ideas here.
it is oddly placed for both
i'd suggest it's probably a feather based on how we've seen a lot more bird motifs in this game than anything reptilian
What I really came in for was discussion of sneeping traveler actually being a lizard person. 
ktjn 
wait what's this lizard thing about
U mean the beta nickname we gave him 
Lost would be so happy right now 
Really
I’m almost a grown adult and I still have to look up some of the stuff ktjn says 
I also Googled it buddy
first thought when i saw those were treasure maps 
the shy stance spirit is reading a book, so maybe!
A Scroll instrument?
also music sheets kinda look like that too 👀
Scrolls possibly STORY SCROLLSSSS
Oooooh yes
There was also some other stuff in the back that looked like sleeping bags but that’s jus my interpretation
What if we learn something from scrolls?
Treasure hunting map
why do you think they do, boop? 
Better to have something visual than to read
Ami right boop?
lore scrols would be nice
i like that 
They want a shape that is similar to King's head shape?
They're bird fish, they have no official name rn
Maybe a map.....TREASURE MAP
HIDDEN AREAS
HIDDEN LOCATIONS
AHHH 
We smack the crabs using scrolls
And and and
Thas prolly why there’s a boat and...
so many good theories y'all 
Why do u like abusing crabs man 
iPad or skypad?
iPhone 20
booky
Sky spirit are advance
What's interesting to me is the sleeping spirit is on a physical boat... it's not a memory
skyphone... probably using sky-pe 
Well with these scrolls I guess it’s safe to say that writing was a thing in the sky world huh
Or idk, it could jus be a drawing
thought: since that spirit has a book, do you think the vault memory diamonds weren't available to the whole civilization?
That or maybe vault diamonds didn’t exist at their time yet
Well we saw sunglass so it's not a surprise to see iPad on spirit's hand
I think memory diamonds or cube is sacred
maybe only vault scholars could access the diamonds?
would fit with the enchantment spirits previously being scholars, since they carry diamonds in the ark
Might be future tech used by specifically the scholars and not for other realms use
Or they simply didn’t exist when those spirits were alive
Or maybe they jus chose to read books instead
You know they might be
They also set up a shop with them... could they have been selling some non sealed away ones
You know what I love to read any kind of story books in vacation instead of using any modern device.. so maybe spirits also feels like me
Also who knows
It prolly ain’t even a knowledge book at all, it could jus be a lil fun story or something that sky civilians would read at their time. I mean not everyone loves history ami right?
(Cough cough me who got an f)
Maybe she was writing the book
She's looking at that cover quite intensely....
“Timid sky author”
that makes me wonder about the general leisure aspect back in the spirits' time
I knowwww
She didn’t even open it, it was intense cover staring as if she was like “uh how do I read again?”
Sure
I mean valley has their games
And their lil competitions
But back in praire days I guess books were a thing
Other then hard labor that they normally did
I bet they had a lot of firework shows
Sanctuary was an escape from daily civilization as well
They made a stick that explodes
They also made metal cages that u smack with a stick and it makes noises
I'm sure they had books and paper, we get sheet music after all
there's the travelling troupe from rhythm as well right
Belonging family sort of confirmed that they rlly did play it
Other then the other spirits that jus casually have em on their back as a game mechanic
I bet Skykids are incredible at charades
Let's add dancing
@hushed steeple ok spirits know how to have fun
🎵 spirits just wanna have fun 🎵
Dude they lived in Kingdom for long time ... So it's normal that they know how to have fun
Actually now that I think about it
Belonging family rly did have their leisure time
Dancy boi was exploring a cave and vibin at the top
Prairie girl was flirting with flowers, mom was getting sparklers for her kids, and grandpa was stealing knowledge from a forbidden archive
I guess the grandpa don’t count tho
He sort of committed a crime
But oh well
Although, hide and seek seems like a way of courtship for me...
@hushed steeple
What kind of hide and seek u been playing?
cool grandpa is going to end in spirit prison
Good to know these spirits aren't just a bunch of war fanatics cough gw
No gender I guess?
Veering off a bit, because I'm genuinely curious:
Does anyone else feel like the krill in GW are less the creatures the ancestors were fighting and are more battlefield scavengers?
Because it seems to me that there's no evidence that they were involved in the battle? There's no dead krill anywhere, that I've seen anyway..
You mean like vultures? 
They prowl around the remains of the dead, searching for any scrap of light that runs into view, and continue on
A bit yeah
They're very opportunistic hunters. They wait for something to come to them.
These are scavengers, not true predators, because they give up when their prey (the skykids) prove too difficult a target (hiding, running out of range, etc)
I think when krills die they turn into a mushy darkness
They take one lunge and move on
Not to mention, whatever is in the Graveyard was huge, and had bones.
Krill clearly have an exoskeleton
Not rlly scavengers but I saw them as ruthless creatures that attack everything dark or not
Well
Except other krill
Plus, those spindly limbs would be good for getting into small spaces to pick out scraps of light clinging to things
And some of the spirit memories proved that the ppl were scared of them too and prolly prey for the krill
Just because they're scavengers doesn't mean they're not vicious and ruthless
Hyenas are pretty nasty, but also scavengers
random theory: since krills are dark creatures yet have light, maybe they're the opposite of altruistic skykids: they just want to destroy whatever
Yeah but
One hole is that they don’t attack other krill
But I get what ur saying
They rlly did prey on everything
It's possible they just genuinely want to destroy light
Shoves my essay comparing Skykids and Krill to angels and demons and how GW is the battlefield from the First Fall under the bed
If they did eat light creature to stay alive they would have moved on from wasteland to somewhere else for a better source of food
They could be trapped there
yeahh, i was trying to say that since skids and krills are kind of like two sides of a similar coin (bless my english today
)
Not jus light tho, they preyed on the ancestors and crabs are also scared of them
Most likely meaning they could’ve attacked them too
Oh wow
If they did eat light creature to stay alive they would have moved on from wasteland to somewhere else for a better source of food
@hushed sable
They could be trapped. The vortex is on one side, and the Vault is on the other, they may be trapped in a basin like area, hence the forced scavenging

Let's make this darker: The spirits trapped the krills and the survivors are distractions to keep the krills stay in graveyard
@hushed steeple
Adding this to it, the Golden Wasteland is now a test, a rite of passage for those who desire access to the vault
The ark shows them showing up with the storm (at least it implies it)
I read that sky kids are just entertainment purposes
wha
The krill are not in any land that has direct sunlight
Maybe large amounts of light can hurt them
Hence why they want to destroy ours
Ye
Ready?

To be krilled
Try to pay attention to their locations as well
3 at the battlefield, one at an abandoned and ruined factory, one at the shipwreck and a load of them blocking the entrance to the eden diamond rock rain
Oh and the graveyard
If you have light and krill can see you, time to die
Maybe ask urself
If they are simply wandering and mindless creatures, why do they specifically pay attention to these key spots
Don't forget the ones who come up when you open the gate to the temple
oh yes jim joe and john
Yeah the 3 at the battlefield
Guard dogs
It is obvious that they have some sort of intelligence
oh yes jim joe and john
@gray bridge
W H E E Z E
I propose the idea that they can be summoned like how we summon the manta in prairie
Even they can spot us half map away in graveyard
If they had intelligence, they wouldn't lose us the instant we stepped around a conveniently placed rock
OH AND ANOTHER ONE at the entrance to the hidden island where the ark is
i was going to say that krill caused the forgotten ark to crash and then the other krill at shipwreck caused that
but like
coming in a little late but yes scrolls exist, there's a dedicated scroll shop in Ark after all.
Idk I jus speculated that they seem to pay attention to key areas and they aren’t rlly mindless and dumb creatures that wander and hunt wherever they find an enemy
I never said mindless, just opportunistic rather than cunning
What if krills are made to save things that are related tolight when they were not corrupted, but now that they are, they will killl all things that is related to light
Like why a factory
Why the entrances to some places, why the shipwreck, why do 3 wanna kill you once u open the gate to the temple
Stuff like that I pay attention to
They may know that those are the places where the light carriers are going to go and be most often
Best places to patrol and set up an ambush
I don’t think ambushes exist according to krill
I mean aren't things turned opposite when they got corrupted?
Well we still don’t kno if they were good creatures before but idk
What else would you call the scenario where you open the temple gate and three krill come out of the sand to gnaw your tender bits?
We shall get our krill answers soon
Well that happens when they are protecting something
In sky I don't think we've seem something before it was corrupted so it's hard to say how darkness would change the creatures of sky
It's still an ambush, protection or no
A Light Shrimp flying up the sky
Let's say the krill were light dragons before they were dark
The one in the factory comes up out of the water
What would a light dragon use a search light for?
Probably jus to see
What if krills are actually guard in the wasteland that trained to kill darkness but got corrupted instead?
What would they guard tho
Why is the destroyed factory so important for krills to look out for; and the graveyard and the shipwreck etc
In reality, it's probably less a searchlight and more a game mechanic to help us realize we're in their line of sight, so you theoretically could ignore that if you wanted to talk about light dragons
I know, but it's such a huge part about how they interact with the world and their environment
I think they guard the king's place?
Oh for sure, it was just a suggestion if you were stuck on it
I personally see them as a creature constantly looking out or guarding
i'm still wondering why they specifically have blue light when searching i can't let go of my theory that they can detect spirits/skykids because their spirit is also blue like the krill light
Well if that’s the case I’m still wonderin why they don’t all jus gather up at the kings place instead of spreading out to some other key places
Also it’s a design motive from the guardians from journey, they had the red blue light as well
They're territorial, but sometimes are in packs?
So I think they wanted to sort of put the idea of them into sky
Blue is often used in games to indicate a passive light or gaze and red as having its attention
You see it in things like Legend of Zelda too
Blue in sky is used in a lot of different ways tho as well
When I went through the beta album they went through a lot of colors for the light before they landed on blue
Nice
I know we were discussing the other day how blue in sky could mean death
oh yeah
Blue makes sense in golden wasteland, since everything is that greenish yellow ick color, it stands out
I’m not gonna put too much attention towards the spotlight since it has a lot of simple reasons to exist but
I guess it could have a bit more lore reasons
Wow autocorrect got me good there
When you first fly you glow blue, the same blue the krill shine
Spirits souls are blue
there's the tinges of blue in darkness plants too
The first level to introduce the concept of death in sky is blue
What’s ur guy’s opinion on me saying that krills don’t have a physical body
Sorry to open this can of worms and then bail, but I have to get to bed, goodnight, y'all
i mean if they did have a physical body how would they move out of the ground and all that
They ram into us



