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dull fox
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Then why does it tell us to collect the fallen light

spring blaze
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entity

dull fox
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Maybe I’m nuts

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It’s too late. I woke up three hours earlier than usual.

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I’m gonna go

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Good night

earnest tapir
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you don’t even have to go to eden to lose lights. you can just get hit by a crab

spring blaze
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nini moth!

earnest tapir
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goodnight!

rugged rose
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Byebye!!

spring blaze
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yeah you can lose light outside of eden and die outside of eden

dull fox
spring blaze
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but it sends you to a dark room with one star, then sends u back home when u claim it

rugged rose
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If winged lights are supposed to be fallen stars, then what was it before it became a fallen star?

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A part of the red diamond?

earnest tapir
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an un fallen star

round musk
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WL do not equal stars

spring blaze
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tgc says winged light are children of the light

round musk
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The stars are the elders (and possibly the spirits as well)

earnest tapir
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your friends are stars too

round musk
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According to my theory they gained heavenly souls

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They became vessels for fallen stars

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That's just how I interpreted the isle murals

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I can send it to you if you want

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Sorry it's kinda long

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Np, feel free to give feedback and criticism

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I want to add it to the vault but I haven't gotten enough feedback

broken veldt
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I'm pretty sure the winged lights are all children of light who died and failed their mission, and while we are on our mission we are helping those childrens' souls which are trapped to go to heaven

round musk
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Another piece of evidence I just realized is that krill attacked humans, so they must have had some kind of light within them

broken veldt
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I don't think so, the statues in Eden are like us, but they turned into statues same way as we do, they died, but I think their souls, which are winged lights, got trapped on the planet we are on, so we are bringing their souls back to their bodies, helping them get free and go to heaven as their souls should have.

zealous sedge
broken veldt
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But did you notice how winged lights are souls of children? We are basically bringing those souls back to the statues so they will be freed from the earth

spring blaze
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ye and that number will grow pWow

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^^ winged light

round musk
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According to my skykids=eden elder theory, winged light are just skykid souls that haven't been placed in a vessel (skykid) yet

broken veldt
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That's because more children have died than there are statues in Eden, but that doesn't mean they are different, it's possible they died in other places, they could have died in wasteland for all we know, we are just returning their souls to their dead bodies in Eden which is only a small part of the dead ones

rugged rose
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Like in the cutscenes where we die, right?

broken veldt
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I think the cutscene we see when we die with the golden child suppose to represent our statues being released the same way we release the statues when we go to eden

round musk
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It's said in one livestream that winged light are imprints of the Child of Light, and in another that they're imprints of the children of light. The only explanation for the inconsistency is that Child of Light and children of light are the same thing

spring blaze
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also dont forget that wing buffs and winged light are the same, so not all winged light came from the glowing kiddos

broken veldt
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But all of them come from souls/spirits, so skyShrug

round musk
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A lot of people think that the skykid we hug is the Child of Light, who I believe was formerly the King

broken veldt
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That's a possibility, but it wouldn't make sense for me at least

round musk
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I like to think of imprint as being a constituent part rather than an aftereffect

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They may have used that wording to throw us off

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Imo all winged light (which skykids use as souls) are the scattered fragments of the Eden elder's soul

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And collectively, the King's essence remaining in skykids is called the Child of Light

rugged rose
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So basically us (SkyKids) have the fragments of the Eden Elder's Soul?

broken veldt
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I'm pretty sure there isn't an Eden Elder

round musk
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Yeah, which is why my theory is called the Skykids = Eden Elder Theory

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There was an Eden elder but he's beyond saving

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As stated by devs, I believe

broken veldt
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I think there isn't one because they were in a rush to finish the game and make it live

round musk
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Oooor they decided to have the us be the Eden elder reincarnated, thus solving the problem

broken veldt
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I don't know, I don't look much into Eden lore and theories

rugged rose
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Ahhh

round musk
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I think what they mean when they say he's not in the game is that you don't directly see/interact with him in any way

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He's just a part of the history

lavish terrace
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If the things we collect are being returned to their OG stone bodies or whatever, I wonder if they still know who they are as ghosts—

rugged rose
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So if every SkyKids are just a small fragments of the Eden Elder, according to your theory, right?

spring blaze
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i dont think they were really in a rush to finish, money and resources was probably the reason why the king isnt ingame + sky is originally released on mobile

lavish terrace
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lmao it’s just 50+ spirit children all tagging along

spring blaze
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sky took 7 years to develop!

broken veldt
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Ginsy can you bless us with some of your theories?

spring blaze
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o

rugged rose
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Make sense XD

spring blaze
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i dont really have theories but i had one based off of eden concept arts which isnt ingame

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so its not canon haha

rugged rose
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We are all The Eden Elder if combined.
And that's why the Elders in the Vault cutscenes kneels to us

spring blaze
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and its been disproved by the nifty concept timeline

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^ my theory anyway lol

broken veldt
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Huh ok

spring blaze
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i kinda just hop along any theory i find plausible

broken veldt
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You can still say it! I made a long paragraph about the Elder names being Hebrew Letters which is not even canon lol

round musk
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So far there's only 4 major theories that I am fully behind; two of them are Jay's and two of them are mine

spring blaze
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i also used to believe krills were mechanical but all creatures in sky are natural

round musk
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I think they can still be natural machines

spring blaze
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how so?

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i mean if u think abt it all living things are natural machines 🤯🤯

round musk
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Well their form is probably based less off of tendons and bones and more off of metal and wires

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But they still are just shadow taken form

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I think they're purposefully meant to seem mechanical to allude to their association with industrialization

broken veldt
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What if they were creatures native to wasteland but were changed and engineered to help the people who lived in waste

spring blaze
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i remember reading someone’s reply here which pretty much blew my mind bc they explained so well at how the creatures in sky act

broken veldt
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Protect the diamond factories?

unborn fog
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like the watermelon?

broken veldt
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Wait what?

spring blaze
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i cant find the og post though

unborn fog
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yeah humans selectively bred watermelons to have more fruit :V maybe the same for krills?

round musk
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Nah creatures of light form straight from clouds and other light sources, so a creature of pure darkness could only be born straight from darkness

broken veldt
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Huh, interesting to see it somehow apply to sky

unborn fog
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wait so are the krills emerging in upper swamp and graveyard just stepping out of the shadows or is that actually them like being created

edgy sleet
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yeah humans selectively bred watermelons to have more fruit :V maybe the same for krills?
Imagine having like a normal shrimp swimming around and then someone is like "But can we make this more horrifying?"

unborn fog
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lasdkjflasdjfa yes SkyLOL

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also hi shira SkyWave

edgy sleet
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who's shira
where
I don't see any
SkyYay

unborn fog
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hmmm but also eden boop, that s not really swamp like

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ah sorry
shiracheshire :V

edgy sleet
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(Oh, no, I was just making a "I'm not here you don't see me" joke! Haha)

unborn fog
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oh SkyFaint

spring blaze
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hiya shira stickerWave

round musk
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wait so are the krills emerging in upper swamp and graveyard just stepping out of the shadows or is that actually them like being created
@unborn fog I think they're just stepping out of the shadows, cause I don't think krill really die and if they were formed that frequently there would be a lot more of them

broken veldt
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Black shrimp you said?

spring blaze
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irl krill there we have it

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also known as emo shrimp

unborn fog
broken veldt
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Who knows lol

edgy sleet
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Krill is not edible to you
you are edible to krill

spring blaze
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probably not lol

broken veldt
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I'm pretty sure Krill is another name for a Shrimp

unborn fog
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krill is actually a subset/related thing to shrimp :V

broken veldt
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Thank you @unborn fog

round musk
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Krill are shrimp that travel in schools I thought

unborn fog
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krill are the thing that baleen whales eat, they re tiny

broken veldt
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Similar to plankton?

round musk
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They are pretty much plankton

broken veldt
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If plankton and a shrimp had a baby but a mutation happened and it turned black 😂

spring blaze
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krill used huge spell but permanently

broken veldt
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Yes lol

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What do Krills eat in the sea?

round musk
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I think maybe krill are crab souls that ran out of crabs to corrupt so they merged together to become more powerful

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Krill eat phytoplankton, like tiny algae irl

broken veldt
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We ARE the phytoplankton lol

unborn fog
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wait wait wait isn t krill just a fan name :V

broken veldt
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But it looks like a black shrimp sooooo lol

round musk
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Technically creatures of light produce their own energy, so they could be considered autotrophic like phytoplankton

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Today in sky lore channel: children of light are tiny algae

rugged rose
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We are basically food

edgy sleet
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I'm still sad they went with dark dragon as the name. For a while they were using the fan name krill! I liked it better. I just don't see the dragon part of it!

broken veldt
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It doesn't look like a dragon either

round musk
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I don't even think dark creatures get energy from stealing our light, they just are irrationally hostile

broken veldt
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It's flying but that's all really

rugged rose
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Dark creatures go : Oh a light creature. Time to kill it

broken veldt
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It's not allowed to say anything here from Beta that wasn't released to live right?

round musk
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That is correct

broken veldt
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Oof, I had a great theory about crabs that u wanted to share

round musk
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Actually only if its current beta my bad

broken veldt
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What do you mean if its current Beta?

rugged rose
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Like the newest season

round musk
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Like what is currently being tested in beta

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As opposed to past things that never got added

rugged rose
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If it's still in Beta while it's not released in Live, then we can't say it here or anywhere except the beta channels

broken veldt
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Oof

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Crab theory pCry

round musk
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Man I want to get into beta

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I never tire of crab theories

unborn fog
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alskdjfasdja i ve been spoiled so many times from gc and other servers pCry
just a few more weeks and you ll be able to share!

broken veldt
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I'm not gonna say anything about beta, but I am gonna say that I wanted to say something about how Crab's reactions and behaviors depend on their growing environment

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Idk what I just said before the crabs part 😂

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It's past midnight my brain can not do English right now

unborn fog
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:V go sleep hunter health is important

broken veldt
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Reset is more important lol

round musk
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SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK pFIRE

broken veldt
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YEA pFIRE

unborn fog
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no please go sneep pCry

vale ridge
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week

unborn fog
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also *weak

broken veldt
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Funny thing is I can sleep for over 12 hours and still be tired after waking up

round musk
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Yeah humans get tired any time we're not maintaining a regular circadian rhythm

sly kestrel
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Lore discussion?

round musk
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Sorry just a slight detour

broken veldt
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Yes yes give me a second ill pull out an old stars theory

unborn fog
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some krill talk up there

sly kestrel
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Ahhh good ol krills

broken veldt
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So another theory of mine was that we as Skykids are White dwarfs, and when we go die in Eden and lose light we turn into black dwarfs, which are what white dwarfs turn into once they stop making light and heat

round musk
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I don't think there are any creatures left in sky that are truly neutral

broken veldt
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Not much to back it up but skyShrug

unborn fog
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:V astronomy

broken veldt
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I do know someone made a great astronomy theory let me find it

round musk
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I'm gonna go be weak and sleep, good night/day to you all

broken veldt
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This was from Beanie Child
"Daylight represented the aging and the maturity of the stars by their creature such as the butterflies and the supplies of light they produce, Hidden forest represented the cooling down of stars because of the rain as they are soon going to reach their end, Valley represented the stars overheating and becoming giants, Wasteland represented the stars becoming smaller and encounter bigger stars and their death to, Vault was then representing the stars dieing and becoming small white dwarfs, black dwarfs and etc."

unborn fog
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sneep well copepod stickerHeart

broken veldt
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@unborn fog if you search the words white dwarf you should find some interesting stuff from people

unborn fog
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hmmm pThink

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wasteland is a bit iffy cause if we go by this astronomy theme the star would inflate more iirc

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but it depends on the solar mass really

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but i agree

broken veldt
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There is a long paragraph made by a person called Olivia, and she like uses NASA stuff for the theory its interesting

jolly loom
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I probably never paid attention, but...

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It is very interesting

spring blaze
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ive been wondering that for the longest tim

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time

jolly loom
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Just thing about this... predators! Not flying!!1!

junior valve
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Maybe there’s some type of land animals (other than crab boi and that secret dog on praire) with claws that are trying to open one of the butterfly jars???

glad forge
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I guess some bigger cat could do this

dapper pond
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The chat is very active today SkyLOL

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I wonder though, that claw marks are definitely not from crabs... So that means there's another predator like creatures back then

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Now my question is, how did the crabs survived the explosion event (you know, Eden)? While the other living creatures dies

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....

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Now that I think about it

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Won't it be hard to find food when the explosion happened? Maybe that's why some animals went extinct

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Mantas and whales won't need food (I think)

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And maybe some of the surviving krills ate the light creature to survive, that's why some of them are still alive

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...what about crabs? How can they survive then? They're pretty much a neutral creatures, right? Do they eat? Maybe plants or something?

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I don't know it's pretty late here and I'm just sprouting nonsense

spring blaze
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the scratch looks too detailed for it to be some development mess up, and its the only one we see. hmmm

rugged rose
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I'm back with one moar question twt
Do you guys know what egg is in the Forest Map?

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I'm curious over an egg hdhdh

spring blaze
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we dont know what it was for pEyes

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its probably pre-launch beta related

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but for now theyre literal easter eggs hehe

rugged rose
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It's just eggs from who knows what creature SkyLOL

spring blaze
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yes SkyLOL

sweet dirge
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Is vault a tower??stickerHuh

hollow sundial
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Hi guys, is there a list of items next season? stickerPlease

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°>°

sweet dirge
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Lol

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There might be people who can help

hollow sundial
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Ok, thanks

neat inlet
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Umm does anyone remember the introduction of sky and then the last sentence says if only they had listened

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What does that mean?

stoic abyss
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Hm I think I had a theory on that before but idk it’s probably the mega bird or something talking about the Eden king but I’m not sure I haven’t been in this channel for a while lol

sweet dirge
nimble stump
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In my opinion, I think the phrase “If only they had listened” is about the elders??

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Because they’re the ones who fell

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So something must have happened to their demise but it could have been preventable if they chose to acknowledge that advice back then

round river
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I had a tons of lore questions but I'm gonna make it short
If the king is beyond saving then isn't that means we stuck in loop?
Seeing that almost every season we had new places open and what if all maps finally opened then we will have a special season where the clue to save king finally up🤔
Then it's the start of chapter 2......i guess

hushed steeple
rugged rose
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So something must have happened to their demise but it could have been preventable if they chose to acknowledge that advice back then
@nimble stump I think so too! Like in The Forest Elder's cutscene, they looked so sad when they float the rocks and then it crumbles apart. It's like they felt guilty about something. And then there's the Valley Elders with cracks in each of their arms, and Vault Elder in their face/mask(?) I'm assuming that what happened to the Eden Elder/King might be their fault
But it's just a theory of mine so yeah XD

uncut scaffold
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story time
The Story of season of enchantment (by me):
Once upon time, there was an Arabic traveler peddler horde leading by (The Quest giver)... They was collect the falling stars in rainy days and extract and use them to create the elements lights which are the main ingredient besides mushrooms to make potions and spell... And they sell it for living
their ships was formed by one big ship it cellar loaded by their light,spells and potion and 2 ships with mushrooms and vegs...
One day on their sky sailing, a big black clouds start to forme IT S A STORM coming... They start to search a land to wait there till the storm pass... They found a mountains they r safe... But no when they get closer it s a KRILL's den ... They try to run away but the storm push them... Krill spot them ... attack and destroy their mushroom ship... The crew panic and they go toward the life boat trying to run with their lights ... But boom they get lost in storm... Krill attack again the main ship ... The storm throw them to sand (ark)...
The storm subsided, releaved shipwrecks... Is there s a survivers!
The leader of crew wake up ... He search for his people... And yeah he find 6 of them.

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After they gather around as they r happy to survive they were sad abt losing their people...
The "Crab walk" And "scare go to explore the area searching for exit ...The others search for food and anything can use to fix their ship in their shipwercks...In evening, They gather around with a misery atmosphere... The only exit way is guarded by krill ... There s no way to fix the ship ... they get a lack in food and water... The lights are lost
They surreunded... WE ARE FORGOTTEN Here.
The "Nood" Think and here she get draw all their story on ship wall ... When they wake up the nood show them and she was so proud to tell them "our story will live we ll never been forgotten"...
The "snooz" recive the energy , she get up and start to prepare the main ship to look better as their shop, she worked hard, she was super tired, she fall sleep stand..
There s a HOPE...
They start to move to live their last moment happyThe "scare" And his sis "play fight" Go to farm
But there was crabs...so the "crab walk" Use the crab walk to guide them/ a camouflage to let others do their work...
And there s no water... So the "chrung" Need to do spell beside they lost bleu light it was hard and no mushrooms ...
So "play fight go to plant/pick up mushrooms and the " Scare" Was prank her will she pick up mushrooms so she fight him...
The "chrung" Try and try ot doesn't work he was chrung what he ll do .... Finally he did it it clear the dark water
The "scare" go to sowing and when he go to bring water he find birds in his field he scare them to fly away...
This is the story but they didn't have peace till we give them their legacy their lights 🥺
Sorry for my english Hope u enjoy it 🙈 it s just me trying to write their story 🤷‍♂️

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What u think?

hushed steeple
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It makes sense 👌 but I think how they find lights is little unclear

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I think the spirits from season of light seekers Gave light to the enchantment spirits...

uncut scaffold
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Actually i think we r the one who bring them their light and after the last light they find peace (go to sky in last cutscens)
Thank u 😍

hushed steeple
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Yes we bring their lights...... I think after getting the lights they started their journey towards wasteland to recover that barren land using those lights power... But in the way their ship crashed and the lights lost in the sky kingdom.... They wished to get back those lights and we skykids full filled their wishes

tall fog
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A lot of people talk about the rebirth process being a tool to rid sky kids of darkness but i wonder if the purpose of rebirth is not to get rid of darkness but to balance darkness and light within.

hushed steeple
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I'm thinking about something..... What our cape represents?
Our cape doesn't have it's shadow..... Like a light source doesn't have it's own shadow.... And when sky kids don't have cape (capeless) they can't melt darkness it's like their inner light is not exist without cape... just thought about it.... I'm not sure😅

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I apologize for my bad EnglishstickerUmm

glad forge
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Maybe its something like a power source

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Its clearly maded out of light so that would explain why It doesnt have a shadow

round musk
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I think our inner light is something different from our capes. I see our capes as a representation of the extra winged light we gather, whereas our inner light is just the light we carry around like a candle.

celest spoke
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Ark catapult was never explained by season waaaah

round musk
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I thought that was an anchor

celest spoke
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Catapult frame in water, with yeet cup just like Graveyard

round musk
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Where?

glad forge
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Ah yes, that one!

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I guess one of the spirit was a warrior or something.

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Or there were other spirits before and those were warriors.

round musk
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The vault scholars knew about the corruption, so maybe they brought weapons to defend themselves

celest spoke
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There was a theory that they catapulted their lights to launch them to other realms for salvage or attack the krill

round musk
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Both of those ideas would make sense

glad forge
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Maybe the spirits from enchancement wanted to sell It pEyes

hushed steeple
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Or maybe they used it to protect themselves from that krill ?pEyes

celest spoke
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Weird how after permanently restoring the ark area, the remnants of all six lights can only make lil 5-minute temporary spells

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And need extra candles for it too

tranquil thicket
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you can still see the catapult cup in the water - it's a lot easier to see now

earnest fulcrum
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Guys, have you any notice of the new season price chart?

lethal stump
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this isn’t bêta channel, friend

hushed steeple
earnest fulcrum
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Thank u, @hushed steeple

unborn fog
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@earnest fulcrum we already told you in seasonal chat to ask in beta discussion, and this is lore channel, not appropriate for beta questions...?

earnest fulcrum
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@unborn fog
I just followed the #spoilers tag.
I didn't mean to bore you pCoolKid

Consider my apologies SkyGiveLight

unborn fog
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beta content isn t a spoiler btw, it just doesn t belong in live channels

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and spoilers are for respective topics not blanket spoilers

earnest fulcrum
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@unborn fog

You should write a book about it.
I do appreciate your definitions.
You sounded like Umberto Eco, amazing. Accept my sincere gratitude. SkyClap

hushed steeple
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Umm guys i think this area is more likely a part of vault. Those big doors made me to think about it.....also when we watch the elder cut scene the elder is not in this area/temple... It shows he's at outside of this area(end of battlefield).... Most likely he's protecting this area from outside. Not staying in here
What do you think about it?

fickle tundra
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Most likely because the vault stores all of the elders valuable items(history, light, etc) and it’s the one place they needed to defend at all costs

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I read on the google doc that there could have been a civil war In the wasteland. So it may be the elder is defending rioters and revolutionists who want access to the vault when they’ve been denied access to its contents

lethal stump
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what do you guys think the « Mother » statues around the game (and in eden) represent ?

hushed steeple
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@lethal stump can you send a pic please

lethal stump
hushed steeple
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In Eden those works as light source

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But there are many big statues at eye of eden

cold steppe
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they're for lights

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in stormlock, you light them up and they provide you with a light source

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oh, you mean what they represent

hushed steeple
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@lethal stump why you called this as mother statue?

lethal stump
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i heard it called such at one point

cold steppe
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in old beta, some of the statues were at what was a different Home space and there was one for each of your friends

hushed steeple
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Old beta things always confuses me...pFIRE

sly kestrel
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I heard a few theories of it being a vault elder statue and it’s always gifting something with its hands out
Light, fire, a candle, etc

uneven blaze
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These have been used for friend shrines, winged lights before it they’re were kids, the home gifting shrine ofc, ||edens “stone children” you had to save before it was stone children it was these status but gigantic once u gave them winged lights they grow white stripes onto their sides|| these statues are pretty cute tho

hushed steeple
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Interesting

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And ah i Don't think you need spoiler tag anything here😄

spring blaze
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in old beta homespace wasnt really a physical place, it was described to be more like “a place in mind” iirc

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i think current home is like that too, since it looks to be created for the players and isnt connected to the kingdom itself

bitter silo
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Hi all

sly kestrel
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Hello

sturdy condor
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Hello

zinc arrow
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i was just thinking abt those statues..

spice umbra
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So sky children are basically little monsters that wiped out civilization and then go back to eden to respawn. Correct ??

cold steppe
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no???

spice umbra
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And those masks are the faces from other people. Correct ??

cold steppe
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I don't think they're the spirits' faces. Just the masks of the spirit

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there's a "cosmetic" that's no mask that shows their "true" face

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the masks are made from stone

spice umbra
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I'm just messing around 😅 But about the masks isnt their one that is just a black mask ? Because if you use a regular mask and put short hair on your character you could see that most of the characters head is just black.

cold steppe
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there's a no mask and a bald hair

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and yeah, the base seems to be black, though their hands are brown

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unless the hands are gloves

spice umbra
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I honestly believe the character is just a faceless person. Which it hides by using a mask showing a face. Because they also have to relearn emotions through the spirits. So it kind of makes sense that they use masks to shoe expression aswell.

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show*

cold steppe
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I don't think the spirits have "faces" either as they also wear masks

dapper pond
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For me, the sky kids are like "an empty creation" with the sole purpose to bring the light to the star. (I not sure how to explain this in English). And acts like babies in general, since they mimics the things they see

sly kestrel
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I honestly believe the character is just a faceless person. Which it hides by using a mask showing a face. Because they also have to relearn emotions through the spirits. So it kind of makes sense that they use masks to shoe expression aswell.
@spice umbra not relearn, I believe they are learning it all for the first time

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And like the other dude said earlier

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They are basically jus newborn babies learning stuff and were put on a dangerous mission

dapper pond
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I like to think that we are just "voices" inside the sky kids head that tells them what to do SkyLOL

spice umbra
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Soulless little kids that are lead through death everytime 😐

tranquil thicket
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if you look at the no mask face, actually, you can see that they have their eyes closed. so it's not actually a complete void

finite vine
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Quick theory, the creation process of power diamonds could maybe have something to do with the firework staffs? In the cave in prairie there seems to be either the staff that the isle elder has or an actual firework staff, these could also be decoration and im overthinking but

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(I have a much larger theory im looking into right now so)

dapper pond
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Hmm, didn't they use the staff to catch lights and stuff it into the pots? Or maybe it another different staff...

hushed steeple
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Anyone know what kind of a war happened in Golden Wasteland? I'm drawing a war themed tiny comic thing and I want to know if I'm accurate or nah with how I've judged the lore behind Wasteland by myself

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Here's the sketch. This is supposed to be some soldier that fought in the war and is on the brink of death, as a building partially collapsed on his group and ||crushed his legs||.
In the second panel it'll basically show a krill approaching.

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Also yes, those are dark plants growing all around, basically entrapping the soldier more

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Remains of the armour will also be added on later on, this is like a 5 min sketch, so it is lacking a lot of details I want to give to it later on

fickle tundra
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Maybe draw his broken mask on his lap or something as an added detail. The story behind that being a krill blind sided him or something and gave him his wound/ruined his mask

finite vine
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Hmm, didn't they use the staff to catch lights and stuff it into the pots? Or maybe it another different staff...
@dapper pond

I think thats what it was actually, Im not too caught up on that part haha. Im trying to formulate everything with little knowledge on the current theories

dapper pond
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At Pairie bell tower cutscene (I think it the laugh emote?) One of the spirit was trying to catch light using a staff

finite vine
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Ooh

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Well

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Time to make a new account and rewatch all the spirit cutscenes

hushed steeple
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Maybe draw his broken mask on his lap or something as an added detail. The story behind that being a krill blind sided him or something and gave him his wound/ruined his mask
@fickle tundra actually good idea. I was thinking of a broken helmet but a mask could also work. Maybe one like the full armoured whale looking mask?

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The one that looks like the head of this guy

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I'm open to more suggestions and lore based critiques and tips

fickle tundra
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I agree. It would be sooo cool to make it look like that. Maybe make it more flat since that helmet looks really robust 😅 but I like the direction it’s going in

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Also what if the soldiers wound is like, leaking darkness. Or light? Either or if you you kinda get get what I mean

jade river
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Both in forgotten ark btw

eager wasp
jade river
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What if wasteland was home of this whales and the boats came with the krills and killed the whales

And in middle of the battle some boats were destroyed????

tranquil thicket
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the skulls there do look like fish skulls, which matches with the coelocanth that you can see in underground cavern

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boats are ubiquitous in sky; it seems their primary means of transportation

jade river
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Yeah but maybe it exists a combat boat??

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The shipwreck looks like a cargo vessel

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But what about ark?

tall fog
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Soooo is there lore regarding the smol dead manta whose spirit we summon in Vault? It doesnt even really do anything it just flies in circles but it's a dead baby manta x.x is it just a clue that Vault is somewhere between death and rebirth?

desert sun
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Soooo is there lore regarding the smol dead manta whose spirit we summon in Vault? It doesnt even really do anything it just flies in circles but it's a dead baby manta x.x is it just a clue that Vault is somewhere between death and rebirth?
@tall fog we have no clue tbh, we've talked about it a lot before but came to no conclusions

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i did want to point out that bones in vault have a spirit-like texture to them,, so maybe it some sort of spirit bones ????? idk i cant think of anything regarding the dead creatures in vault

regal fiber
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Was the ark attacked?

hushed steeple
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It's that krill's drawing which is patroling on the mountain

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You can see the krill from the ark

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I don't think that those spirits were attacked by that krill..... Or maybe they were..

There's a catapult dip in the water.... That was probably used to keep that krill away.. tho I'm not sure

And sorry for my bad English😅

celest spoke
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From upthread, anyone think the Mother statues look like Vault Elder? Or at least the cowl; no Rosetta Stone hat

hushed steeple
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Jay mentioned that

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Those are vault elder

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But i don't think those are really like vault elderpPogKid

celest spoke
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Oh, and also found one of those kamon designs that the interlocked diamond filigree (found from Forest up thruEden iirc) reminded me of—I think the kamon is stylized water well enclosures

hushed steeple
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It's like that forest temple gate's one

celest spoke
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But there may also be a closer one shaped more like a stylized pawlonia leaf

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Japanese kamon designs tend to avoid groups of 4 bc bad luck (the word for 4 can sound like the word for death)

vague plover
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Hello! I haven't been as active, anything interesting happen?

desert junco
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Japanese kamon designs tend to avoid groups of 4 bc bad luck (the word for 4 can sound like the word for death)

@celest spoke the culture and the language of the spirits may or may not be linked to Japanese culture but I think it’s a complete fantasy culture separate from real life. May or may not get influences from other places

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Sorry don’t know how to quote on discord

celest spoke
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The 4/death taboo also exists in China, so it could be subliminally present in Jenova’s thinking— but yeah, I wasn’t trying to argue that the Sky symbol is directly taken from a RL source and therefore can only mean one thing. Most Sky lore is pretty amorphous wrt RL (other than using the specific name Eden)

hushed steeple
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Sky is inspired from various cultures and religions

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japanese could be one of them

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and chinese

sly kestrel
desert sun
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sky ppl made literally everything diamond shape

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i wouldn't be surprised if the island is diamond shaped

celest spoke
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The butterfly jars aren’t overall diamond shaped, though the openings kinda are.. I wonder if originally instead of a Skykid candle, some of the mechanisms were activated by jamming an open butterfly jar onto the central diamond thingy (esp the butterfly-call elevator in Prairie)

Pic is of the Forest temple activator but pretty much same thing

red meteor
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I wouldn’t be surprised if sky draws a lot of influence from chinese culture as jenova Chen, the designer/director, is Chinese himself

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P sure sky itself is still completely separate from our world tho, just has influences from China and ancient civilization

coarse folio
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I have question, is sky basically a gravesite?

sly kestrel
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Wdym?

narrow siren
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Coz like anything other than a being of light or darkness is dead

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Other than whales but idk what those things are

opaque mauve
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I mean....it kinda is

coarse folio
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I just think that it has lots of graveyards and tomb stones...

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And the sky kids are the only people who are going around..... the rest that look like people are spirits.

sly kestrel
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Ooooh

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I mean technically yes it is sort of a gravesite

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Extinction happened long ago

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The only ones alive are the creatures that cycle through the world

narrow siren
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Kinda weird to think that the elders were alive at some point

sly kestrel
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Besides that, everyone else is dead. In the intro it said “a long time has passed”, that could’ve been a REALLLY long time like centuries and based on all the ruin, a long time rlly has passed

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And wdym

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They never died in the first place

pearl void
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I have question, is sky basically a gravesite?
@coarse folio the social area in almost all of the realms is a grave site of the spirits. The stone near the spirit where they pop out is a gravestone.

coarse folio
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Right right... this game is totally about death.

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And friendship.

hushed steeple
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i wouldnt say 'totally' but it could be one of the themes

pearl void
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After few months of playing, i come to conclusion that this game is about samsara and wabi-sabi. It's a word i just learn about and that ring perfectly with this game.

turbid spade
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this game is so bright and dark at the same time

nimble stump
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There’s another thing I realise about the game is that the temples / shrines and the default cape we have are connected to Buddhism at Tibet.

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And about the reborn thing, it’s also mentioned in Buddhism

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So major reference from Tibet??

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Plus the realms really resemble the nature as mountaineers make their ascend from Kathmandu to the summit of Mount Everest

pearl void
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Well the obvious reference is the Stupa, and about it spinning also may take reference to the prayer wheel

And yes samsara is from Buddhism means the cycle of birth and death, or endless rebirth

red meteor
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And the bowing emote, the mother/home statue, praying at alters ending with bell sounds is a Buddhist tradition of prayer

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@pearl void dunno what wabi sabi is though

pearl void
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@pearl void dunno what wabi sabi is though
@red meteor i am so glad to explain. It has vast meaning from the way of life to design ecstatic, originate from Japan. But one thing is common, it is the embrace of imperfect and incomplete, simply put the beauty of imperfection; perfectly imperfect.

Here i am pointing out the ending of Sky, where Skykid died at the end of the process, whatever objective that we need to do or should have do at the end, it seems incomplete. So it's wabi-sabi, the acceptance of the ending.

I hope it make sense 😊

turbid spade
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that's beautifulpWow

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and the end temple at daylight prairie looks very much like Borobudur temple. in fact that's what first comes to my mind when i see it

heady sinew
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It could be the Ark Symbol tho, just covered by sand

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Or waves

hushed steeple
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Maybe boat part

heady sinew
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Looks more like a boat shape now that I think about it

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You're right!! It's buried the same way

hushed steeple
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If tentacles it's really a great mystery thenpEyes

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Secret dark octopus

heady sinew
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Kraken pHelloKrill

hushed steeple
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Time to be a detectiveSkyYay

heady sinew
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I remember Octopi being part of the concept art but then they got discarded

hushed steeple
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Buried in the sand

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Who knows it'll come out in a future season ||(season of dark creatures)||

heady sinew
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||is that for real?||

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Anyway

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The Krill could have been involved with the Power Orbs getting scattered across realms. It attacked the ark and whooosh there they go. Like our stars when they attack a Skykid! SkyLOL

lofty trench
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Humans are extinct but the Krills don’t?SkyWhew

nova tiger
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They are officially called Dark Dragons

normal berry
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yes but krill is a more fun name imoSkyLOL

tawdry star
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Anybody ever thought on a similar backstory to krill as the dark creatures in journey have? This could be a reason they are still there while civilisation perished

normal berry
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I think they are there because of the eden diamond maybe

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like it attracted them

hushed steeple
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AttractedstickerHuh

sly kestrel
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Is it a copy of vault?
Or is vault copying the top of eden? SkyThink

round musk
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My guess is that Vault and Eden were both places where that required frequent consultation of all 6 minor elders. Vault scholars needed information from the elders about their respective realms, and the king needed a way to communicate with the other 6 elders.

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So that was just the standard format for a shrine that allows communication with all the elders at once; neither one was copying the other

near garnet
sly kestrel
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@round musk The ascent in vault, not everything is physical and real
It supposed to be sort of like a simulation to teach us skykids

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Atlas said that the purpose of vault for us was to educate us about the history of the civilization before we go into Eden

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So the spirits didn’t intend to build everything floaty and random, it’s something that’s supposed to specifically educate us

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With this logic, the top of vault is simply a replica of the top of eden. And each vault level supposed to represent a certain realm, so the top level being eden makes sense dontcha think

hushed steeple
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But why there's no statue of king in eden?.... It supposed to stay at the top

cold steppe
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that's assuming the king is still in game though

sly kestrel
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I hate to be that guy but

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Yeah, we still have no confirmation on him being in game

cold steppe
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megabird, king and/or prince, and eden elder have not been confirmed

sly kestrel
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And prince

hushed steeple
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Welp

spring blaze
unborn fog
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also your annotations are amazing laksjdflkajsdflka

sly kestrel
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It’s still a WAFO for me

unborn fog
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wave analysis for fatigue and oceanography intensifies but it does really resemble the concepts

pulsar dragon
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what is a wafo

woven perch
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resemble,,,,it looks the same,,,

unborn fog
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wait and find out chicky

pulsar dragon
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miles its the samepicture lol

unborn fog
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i guess :V

wind bone
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Even the layering on the statue is the same lol?

unborn fog
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i mean the base is a bit off and some of the proportions are different but yeah

pulsar dragon
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re·sem·blance
/rəˈzembləns/
noun
the state of resembling or being alike

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they are alike

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very alike

wind bone
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It’s practically impossible to made a 3D model look exactly the same as 2d art

spring blaze
wind bone
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Full pic of the statue, it’s clear that it’s supposed to be the concept art

spring blaze
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just because its not exactly the same as the art doesnt mean the concept is different

cold steppe
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what are we discussing pEyes

unborn fog
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okay okay i get it pCry

pulsar dragon
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that those statues are king statues

cold steppe
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oh that

unborn fog
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It’s practically impossible to made a 3D model look exactly the same as 2d art
yeah true it is basically impossible

compact scarab
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Those are what I referenced for this :0 and also Tom Zhao’s art

wind bone
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That’s scary don’t like that

woven perch
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he looks 👁️ 👁️

spring blaze
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red man

unborn fog
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wait are there any king statues in eden pHuh

cold steppe
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what

unborn fog
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ooh pretty

compact scarab
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I just imagine that’s how he would look at you ¯_(ツ)_/¯

cold steppe
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that's very interesting

compact scarab
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That or the beam* out of the mask

keen moat
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I step in this chat for one second and I feel like my brain is combusting SkyScared

hushed steeple
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EvilOreoScream

sly kestrel
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wait are there any king statues in eden pHuh
@that.cambion.nerd#1202 ye

desert sun
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i am absolutely in love with ginsy's annotations lol, also i just found out about the statue thing

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like wow..... that's literally the king

pulsar dragon
unborn fog
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ah mobile discord hates pinging me stickerGloomy
jay where exactly?

sand abyss
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somebody said, King?!

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fan of this fella despite not physically ( in character model not statues mind you ) in game! He’s a pretty interesting character to look into especially when it comes to the lore!

unborn fog
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skymii you re a few hours late pEyes

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but yes

sand abyss
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Few hours late? No worries !

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King and Spirits time hehe!

polar parrot
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King statues?? pEyes pEyes

sand abyss
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thenflourish King Statues~

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Ones you can find outside of the Wasteland Temple in the Battlefield ~

wind bone
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King is just wd gaster sky edition

sand abyss
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omg

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I MEAN

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You’re not wrong

woven tundra
unborn fog
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i have no idea what wd gaster is but sure pHuh

woven tundra
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I heard something about king 👀

polar parrot
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You're telling me krills were scientifically made? pEyes pEyes

sly kestrel
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.....ok first y’all were talkin about the king and then krills got into topic

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How’d that happen pHelloKrill

sand abyss
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huhuuu we dont know but who knows tho, Amn ~
Also yes WD Gaster! Let’s say, he’s a pretty mysterious character that nobody know of his origins, which sparks amazement and inspirations upon the fan base of UT

Similar to how King is with nobody reallly know his ordeal aside of being a corrupted ruler or something but there’s some peeps like myself and others who likes this fella due to his “lore”

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Well, King then Krill and back to WD Gaster

polar parrot
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Maybe its all connected pHelloKrill

sand abyss
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pFIRE we have connected the dots haha!!!

unborn fog
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ooooo-kay

sly kestrel
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Also miles, it’s in orbit

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The king statues at eden

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It’s the same yellow outline, only they don’t seem like statues, they jus seem like side architecture

arctic turret
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I was kinda curious and was timing running through the levels(not including cutscenes) to confirm something and yes, I realised that the levels are timed out to correspond to the length/period of life they represent. Isle for example takes about 3-4 minutes, prairie was about 9 minutes(completing bell towers) and forest which represents teenage took about 7-8minutes.
Might not be accurate because miscellanneous factors but my point is therestickerPeace

uncut scaffold
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I think u ll be interested 😻

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Alwys when i see the wall drawing in sky

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I remember the "city of sefar" In Algeria 🇩🇿

tranquil thicket
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the wall drawings are very reminescent of petroglyphic styles!

uncut scaffold
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This cave paintings the oldest one in the world!

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And it s till kinda in covered the true story

cold steppe
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Jingqiao, did you include underground caverns for Forest, or just the upper area?

frosty helm
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I haven't been here for awhile

exotic nexus
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hi everyone, i'm new here, and i want to catch up on the (theorized) lore. i saw that there are a few google docs compiling things about the lore of the game. is there any single folder/file where all these docs can be found?

twilit current
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You can find a bunch in the pinned messages in this chat @exotic nexus

exotic nexus
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ok, thank you!

sly kestrel
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If u see anything said by me

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Jus ignore it

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I had a lot of different opinions back then

spring blaze
sly kestrel
spring blaze
round musk
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@round musk The ascent in vault, not everything is physical and real
It supposed to be sort of like a simulation to teach us skykids
@sly kestrel I don't think that relates to the actual lore of vault. The skykids didn't even exist when vault was created; I think the devs just designed the level to build up suspense for Eden. Imo, vault is just as real as the other realms, lore-wise

spring blaze
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vault is a real place yes, but its also mixed in with a dream-like state

round musk
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Similar to how Valley has mysterious echoes of long-dead crowds

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All the realms are somewhere in between reality and fantasy

hushed steeple
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Well if you guys check the chart in office.... There's no name of vault... As like it doesn't represents any stage human life.... Like other realms do

So i also think vault is not a really a realm like other

spring blaze
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vault represents old age

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its been confirmed

hushed steeple
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Then why it's not in the chart?

spring blaze
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its old

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or it just wasnt there

hushed steeple
spring blaze
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but vault has always been concepted

round musk
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But in super old concept art you see night as one of the realms

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So maybe they just ditched it temporarily?

hushed steeple
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Hmmm... But concepts changes....with time

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I saw an old cutscene of the wl elder.... Which fits more with game

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But they removed itpPogKid

round musk
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The what elder?

hushed steeple
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Wasteland 😅

round musk
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My bad that makes sense 😂

spring blaze
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probably due to performance stuff

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a lot of the old cutscenes were neat as heck

hushed steeple
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Like old valley one that was justpWow

unborn fog
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okay now i m curious :V

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did they actually change much about the cutscene ideas or were they mostly graphics changes

round musk
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Ok so this is probably the most basic question I've asked here... but I don't recall if I ever learned why Golden Wasteland is green not golden. I sound like such a moth sqwarlockDed

spring blaze
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they changed what the elder cutscenes contained

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iirc the valley cutscene was much more exravagant

hushed steeple
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I can send a video link here of old version...

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If you guys interested

spring blaze
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go for it!

hushed steeple
spring blaze
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oh my god the ads

rotund coral
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11 hours

sly kestrel
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@sly kestrel I don't think that relates to the actual lore of vault. The skykids didn't even exist when vault was created; I think the devs just designed the level to build up suspense for Eden. Imo, vault is just as real as the other realms, lore-wise
@round musk watch the livestream urself lol

hushed steeple
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7:12:02 for valley elder cutscene@spring blaze

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You've to skip a little tho... Better to play on 2x playback speed

rotund coral
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Someone posted the cutscene timestamp at the comment, fyi pEyes

hushed steeple
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8:09:18 golden wasteland elder cutscene

rotund coral
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The valley cutscene is very extra

hushed steeple
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That hurts my eyes

spring blaze
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forest to wasteland changed a fair bit

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isle and prairie pretty much stayed the same, except live isle doesnt have the wing-getting moment

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vault also changed a bit too, but the kept the the mural cutscene but changed the murals and added another cutscene before it

hushed steeple
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So many Changes.....worst thing was if we attacked by krill or anyhow fade out in old version... We'll lost emotes instead of wings

spring blaze
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im glad they changed that haha

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even worse in eden

heady sinew
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When did the changes happen???

spring blaze
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this was during beta

heady sinew
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Oooh

hushed steeple
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Old beta

spring blaze
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so before global launch

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yep

hushed steeple
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But i agree with that wasteland elder cutscene

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That fits more

spring blaze
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back then, when you go through eden instead of dying there’s actually a door at the end for you to enter through. you lost random emotes instead of winged light, so if you pass through the door, the emotes you didnt manage to lose stays with you permanently iirc

heady sinew
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How was the Beta Wasteland cutscene? pPopcorn

polar parrot
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:O ginsy is back

spring blaze
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yes!

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school’s over now SkyLOL

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in the beta wasteland cutscene, the elder opens the gate for you

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instead of live where it opens on its own

heady sinew
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Oooh

spring blaze
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the old shrine was before the gate, in live we have the little power diamond that opens the gate

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now the shrine is inside

hushed steeple
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Surrounded with dark creatures ... Summon the warrior... The warrior opens the gate ... Keep those dark creatures out side of holy knowledge place.... Skykids enters the vault

spring blaze
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that was also jn the concept arts i believe

hushed steeple
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Yup

spring blaze
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the wasteland elder opening the gate for you

hushed steeple
spring blaze
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im honestly glad we have the live valley cutscene instead of the beta one

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the live one matches what valley is: competition

heady sinew
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The Valley one conveys their personalities so well

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all cutscenes do

spring blaze
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LOL krills didnt even exist back in the concept arts they were worms on a string SkyLOL SkyLOL

hushed steeple
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I'm still in confusion why that one thrown the flame towards up

heady sinew
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What was the old Valley Cutscene? pEyes Beta stuff makes me curious

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So that their twin wouldn't reach it probably

hushed steeple
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Check the video link... And don't forget to wear sunglass

heady sinew
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it do be like that when you have family

spring blaze
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its very.. bright

heady sinew
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Ooh so it's on the link cool!!

spring blaze
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all the old beta cutscenes are there!

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be warned

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its 11hrs long

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but amio sent the timestamp for the valley elder cutscene here

hushed steeple
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Play on 2x playback speed

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Those constellation also was different .... And the orbit cutscene just nothing to saypPopcorn

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Why they changed such beautiful cutscenes

spring blaze
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most likely performance issues

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though the wasteland one was good; i wish they didnt change that

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like mix the live cutscene and the beta cutscene, it woulda been nice

hushed steeple
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Me too that suits perfectly.... And we'll also have a social place in vault... (Outfit shrine)

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Sorry for my bad EnglishstickerUmm

heady sinew
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Took me some time but I found it

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Spinny spins

hushed steeple
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YespPopcorn

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Btw we were talking about vault... If that's a real realm or not

spring blaze
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it is

hushed steeple
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When office came in the game?

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Before vault or later?

spring blaze
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all the 7 realms existed before office

heady sinew
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wOOAH WASTELAND is so good!!

spring blaze
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office was added late last year

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office is also not canon so its not part of lore

heady sinew
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Camera go WOOSH. It's packed with action lol

spring blaze
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like, the existence of the office doesnt exist in the lore. its just a neat easter egg!

heady sinew
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Also the Krill zoom is way more creepy

spring blaze
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the office is a real place irl tho

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it’s a recreation of tgc’s office in california

hushed steeple
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But that has a chart which makes me to think about the existence of vault

spring blaze
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thats old concept art

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can you show me the chart? i havent been there in a while

hushed steeple
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Sure

spring blaze
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yeah thats just a mixture of concept arts and text

hushed steeple
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Ohhh

spring blaze
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vault very much was in the concept arts

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yeye

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even if vault isnt there, it is in live, so it very much exists in the current lore too SkyLOL

hushed steeple
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Maybe ... Or maybe notskyShrug

sly kestrel
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oh my

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I see my twin typing

pearl juniper
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Yeah the vault was “Night (mature)”

hushed steeple
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Oh double jay

sly kestrel
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⚔️

pearl juniper
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There’s. So many Jays

hushed steeple
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Weapons are not allowed

sly kestrel
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🤜🏻

hushed steeple
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Or I'll start skywar I

pearl juniper
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No

pearl void
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Or I'll start skywar I
@hushed steeple I'm on the manta side

hushed steeple
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it’s a recreation of tgc’s office in california
Does this mean someone from tgc works in iss???

spring blaze
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no SkyLOL

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its a cool little easter egg

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and easter egg in an easter egg

raw barn
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is there a theory existing that us (sky children) are dark creatures seeking light?

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that our capes where created to emit and charge light

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idk doesn't even make sense sksksks

hushed steeple
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I think sky childrens are made with both light and dark

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Talking with cape.. i wanna remind everyone that tho we've our own little candle but that doesn't works to burn darkness when we're capeless...

spring blaze
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because we have no flame

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we can light up candles when capeless

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we still have our flame

hushed steeple
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But wtb melting darkness

blazing terrace
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In keeping with the catholic religious themes(Eden and the king) it would make sense if their dark part was just simply their physical form as apposed to creatures of light like mantas and butterflies
?

spring blaze
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you can still melt darkness SkyLOL

hushed steeple
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Nope

spring blaze
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its been a while since ive been capeless

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capeless as in no cape?

hushed steeple
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Once i was capeless ... And trust me i couldn't burn a single dark plant in forest

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capeless as in no cape?
I mean when we've 0 winged lights...

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This stage

round musk
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It just occurred to me that skykids have one extra winged light than it says: the one that makes up our soul

hushed steeple
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Wdym?

round musk
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After we lose all the winged light in our cape, we still are alive and keep our form

sly kestrel
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Huh

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Well duh, we aren’t made out of winged light

round musk
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We know that skykids need at least one winged light to be alive

hushed steeple
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No

sly kestrel
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Ever played the beginning of the game

round musk
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Ever watched the intro?

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A winged light symbol appears as we are "awakened"

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Implying that our soul is being forged out of a winged light

hushed steeple
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Well when you lose all your winged lights before eden you can glitch and can go all realms (except eden).....

round musk
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The winged light meter only shows the winged light in your cape

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There's still one more that isn't in your cape, and it is your soul

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It isn't a glitch that you are still alive after your cape loses all its wl

hushed steeple
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Hmm spiritualitySkyFloat

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There's still one more that isn't in your cape, and it is your soul
I don't think so..... Winged light gives us cape

round musk
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1 WL = Alive, No Cape

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2 WL = Alive, With Cape

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1 WL = 0 WL in the cape meter

hushed steeple
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Math saying it's wrong

spring blaze
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when you first start the game you have no winged light. all you have is your flame

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you get your cape when you get one winged light

round musk
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when you first start the game you have no winged light. all you have is your flame
@spring blaze That's what it looks like, but no. Your soul is a winged light

hushed steeple
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1 not equal to 0🙅‍♂️

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I also posted a pic... With 0 wing

round musk
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That's you with 0 winged light in your cape and your body

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I don't think any of you guys understand the point I'm trying to make

hushed steeple
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Point is we've flame in our soul not wing

round musk
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You have one winged light when you start off the game, you just can't see it b/c it's literally in the very essence of your being

spring blaze
round musk
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Idk maybe that represents your soul, but that's not specifically what I'm referring to

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Nah the candle can be put out, but we're still alive

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When our flame is extinguished we can still move

hushed steeple
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Candle can be put outpSquint

spring blaze
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yes, if you have no flame

hushed steeple
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Ah yes

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Faded

round musk
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The candle isn't what keeps us alive, it's what allows us to spread light throughout the world of sky; it's a tool

hushed steeple
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

round musk
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Something like that

hushed steeple
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Can I ask a question from different topic???pPineapplePizza

round musk
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Sure

hushed steeple
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...

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Turrets ...... Sentry ships

round musk
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Old designs for leftover war machines, it seems like

hushed steeple
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War machinepWow

round musk
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It looks like they kind of reduced the technological ability of the sky world from the concepts

spring blaze
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seems like they were replaced by the krills

hushed steeple
spring blaze
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flying turrets

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definitely krills SkyLOL

round musk
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Wait so you die immediately after you lose the last winged light in your cape?

hushed steeple
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It's not like die.... You'll find your kid in a dark place. Far from home... Tho you can teleport to a friend

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But your friend won't be able to see you

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As you don't exist

round musk
celest spoke
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Go sit in wasteland water and see 💀

hushed steeple
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And if you go near a candle you'll be visible

round musk
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But this does happen immediately after you lose your last wl?

hushed steeple
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Why not check it in your way?

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You'll find your all answers

round musk
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Ok fine...

celest spoke
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There’s a YT vid of someone trying to lose all her lights in Forest rain but strangers keep picking her stars back up— really wholesome when you think about it

round musk
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Yeah I saw that one a while back but I can't find it again

spring blaze
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you die when you lose your last winged light

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it happened to me before

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you lose your flame first anyway so

round musk
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Hmm...

celest spoke
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There’s that not-quite-dead-yet zombie staggering stage in Eden statue field

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No more light, but still kinda moving

round musk
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Skykid biology is so confusing

celest spoke
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We’re not aliiiive, we’re clay golems imo

round musk
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We were sent from the sky though, so at least the soul part of us has to be alive

celest spoke
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Devs patterned our “bonk” collision sound on baked clay flutes

hushed steeple
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I've Faced a weird situation.... I tried to glitch in eye of eden and yup i succeed with a friend....see the pic... the fact is no one of us was sitting on floor.. but for me my friend was sitting on a spot and for her i was sitting .. tho we were walking towards that giant red stone... It was like for me ..my friend wasn't in his skykid body and for her I'm not in the body... It's like we become a soul who can travel but no one can see us

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My friend was invisible....

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For her i was invisible

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If there any explanation for thisSkyPray

celest spoke
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No red rain either?

hushed steeple
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Glitch

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I mean when you enter that dark room with one shiny boi... Just tp to your friend

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And we'll be in an eden where's no red stone rain

round musk
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I'm gonna consider that just a glitch, it doesn't seem like it can be lore-related

hushed steeple
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Maybe

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You can also face that invisible situation when you die before eden

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So i thought maybe some lore behind it?

spring blaze
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did you die and warp to your friend?

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you glitched then

raven viper
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I did that

spring blaze
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i did it before

raven viper
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Looool

round musk
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Ok now that I've rewatched the video of what happens when you lose all your light, I can now say with full confidence that I was right, and we do have an extra wl for our soul

raven viper
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Loool

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Got as close as I could

spring blaze
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its a cool way to look at eden without things trying to kill you

raven viper
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Yus

hushed steeple
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But wtb invisibility to your friends?

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Like a ghost

raven viper
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Dunno about that

round musk
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You don't actually die when you lose all your light, so that means that neither your cape nor your flame are what keep you alive

spring blaze
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its a glitch so something wrongs bound to happen

raven viper
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My friend and I couldn’t see each other

spring blaze
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yeah thats what happens

raven viper
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But wrapping puts you in that weird situation

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I didn’t wanna hug glowy bald boi yet

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🥺

spring blaze
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yep

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i mean feel free t explore! youll just have t warp home and re-enter eden via the return shrine to continue the journey

raven viper
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True

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Tbh the wrap was an accident

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But I loved the peaceful version of Eden

hushed steeple
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Question is does it's lore related?

spring blaze
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well you discovered a neat glitch if you ever feel like checkoung out what stormlock is

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it can be

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i posted vides here using that glitch

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videos*

raven viper
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Ooo interesting

spring blaze
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i can resend them if you're interested

raven viper
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Yes plz

hushed steeple
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Sure

spring blaze
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you could lose your flame from the water but it doesnt kill you. i had to go home and re enter to finish eden

hushed steeple
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Ginsy did you saw your friend was moving?

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I mean walking

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For me my friend was just sitting like a statue and for my friend i became a statue.... Tho we both were exploring

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Wondering why

spring blaze
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i was able to see him but he couldnt see me

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i dont remember what happened after, its been months

round musk
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I know this would really be possible, but what would happen if you hit the wall of the cave in isle really hard the first time you ever play the game?

hushed steeple
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Fade out

round musk
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Hit it multiple times that is

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To the point where, if you had any winged light, you would lose it

hushed steeple
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Dude i Don't think you can lose wings by hitting wall

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anybody know what ||oreo|| is based off of-

round musk
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Would you just go straight to orbit?? Or is it even possible to die outside of Eden?

hushed steeple
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Easter egg

round musk
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Dude i Don't think you can lose wings by hitting wall
@hushed steeple Wait lemme go try

hushed steeple
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you can die in forest and wasteland

spring blaze
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you can die outside of eden

round musk
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You don't actually die when you lose all your light, you just get teleported to a different location w/ a winged light

spring blaze
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when you do, you get sent to a dark room with one winged light to claim, then sends you home

round musk
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You don't die, because you've just been reduced to the state you were at the beginning of the game: capeless. At the start of the game you are very much alive, albeit capeless

spring blaze
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^ video of dying outside of eden

round musk
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As I've just stated, I don't believe you're actually dead when you get sent to the dark room

hushed steeple
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@spring blaze dude i also faced that painful situation.... Was playing beside river and fall asleep .........pFIRE

spring blaze
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thankfully never happened to me again.. now when i candle run and i start getting sleepy in forest i just close the game haha

round musk
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If you died when you lost your cape, then you would be dead at the start of the game, which you're not

spring blaze
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?

round musk
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You only die in Eden because you're being pelted even after you lose your last wl

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But losing all your wl does not kill you

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When you get sent to the dark room w/ the shiny boi you are still alive

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Just teleported

ember zodiac
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Dropped from the sky

manic holly
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Ok so yesterday on the general thread I talked about the idea of making a fanfic about the world and civilization before the sky kids but now I keep thinking about it and I genuinely want to make one but would anyone even be interested in reading it?

polar whale
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👁👁I'd be interested

spring blaze
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go for it!

celest spoke
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@round musk but after dark room do you get reborn/teleported?

spring blaze
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you get sent to home

hushed steeple
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oohh

pure root
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ah yesh

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how chill here

sly kestrel
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After a while, there’s jus nothing left to talk about anymore haha 😂....

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....😔

spring blaze
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dang

hollow pier
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I only have 93 pages @sly kestrel SkyLOL

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ginsy you have 229skyBOO

hushed steeple
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I don't have pages.... As I'm on discord mobilepFIRE

sly kestrel
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I have to admit, most of all that is jus me shutting down ppl’s theories and telling them everything I know and answering the same questions over and over again. There’s also me ranting my speculations and my “4 MoNtH PoWEr DiaMoNd” theory even tho no one asked

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After 400+ pages of talking, I never got any closure on the sky story at all haha
I decided I should jus make my own story Bc everything is so vague and I believe tgc wanted us to make the story with our imagination honestly

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Well, no more lore chat for me

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Bye everyone SkyWave

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It was nice meeting some ppl here

hollow pier
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@hushed steeple you have 71 pages

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Oh wait

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that was total, it's 8 pages in the lore channel

hushed steeple
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jay why

hollow pier
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JAY NOOOO DON'T GO

hushed steeple
hollow pier
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you're a blessing to this lore channel @sly kestrel

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with your knowledge of lore you can tell people what's what when people come in toting new fangled theories that just don't work or if people want to know more

hushed steeple
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Jay won't you think there'll be more stories to reveal in future?.... With a new season a new story of sky kingdom.

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Sad silence.......

spring blaze
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229 pages!

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i talked lore before this channel was even made so probably add a few more pages to the list

sturdy condor
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Wait, I wanna know what 4 month power diamond is

hushed steeple
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.....💔

spring blaze
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i think jay went off for the night

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there will be more stories pEyes the story will always expand as long as seasons keeps coming

hushed steeple
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You guys won't believe jay told me he's going to delete sky

spring blaze
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sure he would

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but he’ll miss all the cool new areas and spirits inthe future!

hushed steeple
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And new stories... Lore

spring blaze
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oh yes pWow

stoic abyss
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400+ pages of lore that’s just AMAZING Jay I’ve had my own lil theories but never talked here that much D a r n

barren bloom
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Megabirb?

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Also... The green thing above it looks like an antler, does it symbolize eden? Bcs I'm sure there's a mask that looks like that in lightseeker, and since those masks symbolize each realms, that one might be eden mask

fading bear
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Ooh I've never noticed that on before

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Are we allowed to talk about spoilers for the next season in this chat? Because I have some fun lore info stuff about that

scarlet wren
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oh the green thing resembles the old mask of the prairie elder!

barren bloom
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Can i see it

scarlet wren
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even forest temple has an old concept mask of the respective elder

fading bear
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wow that's cool

barren bloom
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Are we allowed to talk about spoilers for the next season in this chat? Because I have some fun lore info stuff about that
@fading bear I'll leave for a week if it's allowed 😭

fading bear
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Aww

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Then I'll talk about it when the new season is out

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I can wait for a bit

scarlet wren
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oh yes, anything beta related stays in the beta channels. That's the one exception here

hushed steeple
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@barren bloom

barren bloom
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Ahh, i see the resemblance

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Thanks

urban sparrow
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The vault elder in this picture always reminds me of a skekse from dark crystal

hushed steeple
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And look at eden elder.... Such a giant

urban sparrow
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Their faces...their masks were so scary looking...I'm glad they look much more like people now.

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All the elders, spirits and sky kids have white hair and stone masks...i guess it's evidence they are related although I remember reading the devs saying they are not the same species...

hushed steeple
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Yup sky kids and spirits are different species...

round river
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Bcs they were created by light so maybe that's why they have white hairSkyThink

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Mask maybe a tradition

torpid hatch
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I wanna share my Sky story before the current Sky state, basically it's like Sky's history but based on my point of view.. it's super long though, and im planning to make a comic for it but i don't think im gonna finish it haha,, is anyone interested to read it??

hushed steeple
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Meeeee

torpid hatch
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Ok wait I need to divide it up cause it's so long skskskks

torpid hatch
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Let's start with the basics. So as you may know, there's the "Dark" and "Light". They oppose each other and you can only defeat one with the other. Creatures of light are made out of this Light, without it they would eventually die out. But as long as they're lit up again, they'll Light up again, you can say they're technically immortal in a way. Now Creatures of Dark are never supposed to show themselves, but the Light can't spread out evenly throughout the entire continent, so things started to build up in the shades, the Dark. Starting from the water, it'll get infested slowly then forming to dark plants, then the crabs crawled out of their hiding and finally.. the Dark Dragon. No one knows where they originally came from and how, it remains as a big mystery all this time.

Fighting system/background:
The crime rate are actually very small in the world of Sky— actually, there wasn't even any crime or violence back then. But revolution and change are inevitable whenever civilization exists, there will be people and governors, and there is order to everything. And from there, eventually 5 main laws were made, as follows:

  1. Regular civilians can only have a maximum of 3 flight power. Valley skaters and gliders have the maximum of 5 flight power.
  2. Any illegal trades/purchases for prohibited spells, tools, weapons, and the kind shall be considered as a serious crime, and those that violates the rules will be punished accordingly.
  3. Trespassing against restricted lands/properties shall be considered as a violation, and the consequences shall not be taken lightly.
  4. Creatures of light are considered as ancient relics and shall not be harmed in any ways.
  5. The Race of Triumph are strictly a tradition sports, interference from outside forces shall be considered trespassing.
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For a heads up, the elders have subordinates that carries out tasks/their direct orders. They usually have a lot of flight power, the maximum being 10. But so far only one has that much power.. Ivandu Taran. The heads of the Guards. Now there are four roles (highest to lowest in terms of power):

  1. SPELL CASTERS
    They act as support for the Guards and hold tremendous power, so some spells/blessings are restricted by the elders for the spell casters. The spells and blessings they're allowed to cast are mostly the harmless and support type spells. To cast a spell capable of damage, is.. almost impossible. Messing around with dark magic is VERY dangerous and risky, one wrong move and the entire world could get wiped out in eternal darkness. Now of course they can also use Light Magic, but that only works against Creatures of Dark, using it on the Sky kind would only make them stronger.
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For a heads up, the elders have subordinates that carries out tasks/their direct orders. They usually have a lot of flight power, the maximum being 10. But so far only one has that much power.. Ivandu Taran. The heads of the Guards. Now there are four roles (highest to lowest in terms of power):

  1. SPELL CASTERS
    They act as support for the Guards and hold tremendous power, so some spells/blessings are restricted by the elders for the spell casters. The spells and blessings they're allowed to cast are mostly the harmless and support type spells. To cast a spell capable of damage, is.. almost impossible. Messing around with dark magic is VERY dangerous and risky, one wrong move and the entire world could get wiped out in eternal darkness. Now of course they can also use Light Magic, but that only works against Creatures of Dark, using it on the Sky kind would only make them stronger.
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  1. GUARD
    Since sky kids can't actually "die" , the only way to "kill" someone is by taking out their Light. And even by doing so, they'll only be contained for around 15 minutes in the Limbo before respawning at their set "spawnpoint". Hence, that's why putting out someone's Light completely would only be a disadvantage. To take out someone's Light, you need a Darkness Essence. Of course if not handled professionally, it could also take out the wielder's light, that's why a Guard is considered as someone who's strong and mighty. And not everyone can obtain a weapon, the production amount is VERY limited since the weapons are given straight from the elders. And like the Spell Casters, this weapon is also capable of doing Light Attacks, not only Dark Attacks. Dark Matter is very dangerous to deal with, and only the elders are permitted to obtain it and know where it comes from. A Guard's job is to find, and imprison criminals that violates the law to send them in the elders' jail. In this jail, there is no source of light at all and you'll be trapped there for however long is your prison sentence. The highest form of crime would be law number two. This will cause your prison sentence to be "entire life" , imitating death. There is no way to get out of the jail, and you'll stay as a "grey kid" as long as you're imprisoned. Of course unless a miracle happens and somehow someone managed to break through the guards and security just to do a jail break.
  2. LIBRARIANS
    They work for the Vault's elder, and they lack in population. Not anyone can become a librarian, since they need to be extremely intelligent and posses a good amount of curiosity and interest in studies. They help the Vault's elder throughout the Vault, whether it's to tidy the place up, research unfinished data, or help the elder herself find stuff in between all the books and lanterns.
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  1. COURIERS
    There are a lot of them, and they're always busy to deliver winged lights to those that requested and are granted by the elders. To obtain a winged light, you need to state the reason why you need it? is it simply for show? What do you strive for? Many failed and gave up numerous times on the winged lights— because their reasoning was not clear and interesting enough for the elders'. And, the couriers received a special blessing from the elders' themselves so they could see through a regular civilian if they're telling the truth or not. Sadly, the couriers are considered as the 'lowest' position in the elders' subordinates, and that blessing only works against normal civilians.

Extra information:

  1. The elders doesn't have actual names, it's just nicknames they made up for each other since they're all close friends. (If anyone calls them by this name other than among themselves, you're dead meat.)
    Isle of Dawn: Islan
    Daylight Prairie: Dayne
    Light Forest: Herlena
    Valley of Triumph: Vel & Vay
    Golden Land: Galen
    Vault of Knowledge: Aruhev

  2. Rumors are the elders are hiding a lot of things, one of the most famous rumors are that the winged lights are actually from the deceased sky kids, formed from their "souls". But many doesn't believe this, because everyone thinks that no one can actually "die".

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  1. Traders (in the current Sky game we know them as the Spirits that gives you emotes.) are usually the ones that travels and sell things, but it doesn't mean that Sky kids aren't allowed to do trades with each other.

For more explanation for each law:

  1. Because the information about winged lights are very little up to this day, their origins and whereabouts are completely random. It is considered a rare substance and the elders can't let the people know about this, so the only way to obtain winged lights are through the couriers.
  2. Illegal items for trade for regular civilians would be: Weapons, Dark Spells, Dark Matter, Ascended Candles, Winged Lights, etc.
  3. Restricted areas are: Private Property, (lands that are bought with candles by regular civilians) Vault of Knowledge, Race of Triumph, (you need to be a skater/glider/staff to enter the racing track.) Golden Land's pipes/factory, (authorized personel only.) Elders' room. (authorized personel only.)
  4. Creatures of Light are: Butterflies, Jellyfishes, Mantas, Spirit Mantas, Birds, Leviathan, Fishes, Mushrooms, flowers, etc.
  5. In order to become a skater/glider you need to send an application to the Valley's elders through their couriers. After they accepted your application, they will send you some winged lights as a starter pack. But it's not as easy as that, you would need to race against the other applicants at the assigned date and time in order to see if you have the talent for it. Those under 3rd place will fail and their winged lights will be taken back by the couriers. Those who succeeded, (first-third place) will have to train and work hard at the training grounds if they want to win in the actual Race.
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The winners of the Race of Triumph will gain candles, a medal, and winged lights.
1st place: 6 candles + winged lights enough for a flight power upgrade. (if they already have the maximum limit of flight power it would be exchanged for 2 candles instead.)
2nd place: 4 candles + 3 winged lights. (if they already have the maximum limit of flight power it would be exchanged for 2 candles instead.)
3rd place: 2 candles + a winged light. (if they already have the maximum limit of flight power it would be exchanged for a candle instead.)

This part is still quite empty since I don't know what the conflict should be, but I already have an idea of how the Sky world ended up in the current game state.

A war broke out, and it mostly took place in Golden Land. It reduced the utopia filled with the riches and beautiful glamour, to nothing but sand and dust. Factories breaking down, revealing the pipes and dark matter. After a while, the war got so much worse and eventually all realms became uninhabitable, the elders decided to combine their powers along with the civilians (sky kids), and dispersed it into the sky, hoping that their Light would develop into souls and come down to save the kingdom again by restoring the Light throughout the realms. You can say it's kind of like the "end of the world"

Note that the civilians back then have their own consciousness, and they don't have to wear masks and they actually have eyes/pupils.

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The winners of the Race of Triumph will gain candles, a medal, and winged lights.
1st place: 6 candles + winged lights enough for a flight power upgrade. (if they already have the maximum limit of flight power it would be exchanged for 2 candles instead.)
2nd place: 4 candles + 3 winged lights. (if they already have the maximum limit of flight power it would be exchanged for 2 candles instead.)
3rd place: 2 candles + a winged light. (if they already have the maximum limit of flight power it would be exchanged for a candle instead.)

This part is still quite empty since I don't know what the conflict should be, but I already have an idea of how the Sky world ended up in the current game state.

A war broke out, and it mostly took place in Golden Land. It reduced the utopia filled with the riches and beautiful glamour, to nothing but sand and dust. Factories breaking down, revealing the pipes and dark matter. After a while, the war got so much worse and eventually all realms became uninhabitable, the elders decided to combine their powers along with the civilians (sky kids), and dispersed it into the sky, hoping that their Light would develop into souls and come down to save the kingdom again by restoring the Light throughout the realms. You can say it's kind of like the "end of the world"

Note that the civilians back then have their own consciousness, and they don't have to wear masks and they actually have eyes/pupils.

hushed steeple
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Myi i promise one day I'll read it entirely

torpid hatch
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Hagsgsh let's see if i have the motivation to actually finish the story pCry

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Also feedback is greatly appreciated like is the elders names weird?? If it is give me nicknames suggestions urugwuehdh

hushed steeple
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Ok i need to meditate first.... Need will power.. give me some timeSkyFloat

torpid hatch
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Ok uwu

hushed steeple
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Myi i read that intro.... I think you need to see this.. tho it's a theory

torpid hatch
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I can't zoom it in and it's all blurry,,

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I did make the history based off my own perspective, so sorry if there's anything that doesn't make sense/add up

hushed steeple
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Did you tell there our ancestors had wing power?

torpid hatch
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Ancestors as in the elders/spirits?? They don't but the elders does posses a lot of "Light" , the substance that's kinda like life energy

hushed steeple
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Well it's entirely your theory.... I'm not telling that it's wrong... But i don't think our ancestors could fly like us

torpid hatch
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Yeah they can't, oops- sorry if there's some misleading words haha

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You got it right, that's how i portrayed them too it's just i rushed writing that at 3am so i was kinda not focusing

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I think I'm gonna change a lot of things though, cause i still have a lot of research to do.. that was still the rough sketch of what im intending to make

bold finch
torpid hatch
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And i wrote that based off what i know,, which is not much

hushed steeple
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It'll help youcEllieSkyHeart

torpid hatch
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Tysm 💕

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Brb gtg take a bath lol

drifting copper
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jesus christ that’s a lot of tex t

hushed steeple
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ByeSkyWave
And I'm going to read it entirelySkyWhew

drifting copper
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read all of that i wanna compose an essay on that snbdbdbdd

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but it sounds too harsh

hushed steeple
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Myi it's a nice theory... About our ancestor's life style
.. but i think you've to add .. edit some stuffs.
Overall great jobTGCThumbsUp

nova tiger
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lyst being the lore pFIRE

drifting copper
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dhbdjdhdjd

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thank you for editing my stuff rn pEyes

nova tiger
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ill compile it into a doc and organise it

woven tundra
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Professional pEyes

drifting copper
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add wishy’s stuff too

wicked egret
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Guys, what each of the elements from the ark mean?

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LightRed Darkness
LightPurple ?
LightOrange Fire
LightGreen Life/Nature
LightCyan Wind
LightBlue Water

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This is what I heard so far

nova tiger
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ancient secret hoarding

drifting copper
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widhdjdhhdsp

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i only know fire, life, wind and water

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i don’t remember what the prompts for the red ligbt and purple light said

woven tundra
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uhhh, lemme see If I saved any videos

drifting copper
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green light gave plants and animals so life sounds more accurate

woven tundra
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Purple light prompt is This Spirit prays for LightPurple Purple Light. It is said they hoard ancient secrets.

drifting copper
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hoard

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hmmm

woven tundra
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And Red light prompt is This Spirit longs for the LightRed Red Light. They can be found where darkness prevails.

drifting copper
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knowledge makes the most sense for me atm

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where darkness prevails

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ooooo

nimble stump
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In my opinion, red resembles their history or how they got it here?

woven tundra
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yes... but not all of them

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I'll try to find it

drifting copper
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i know that nastymold recorded 5 of the orbs

nimble stump
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Nice

drifting copper
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just not the red orb

woven tundra
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You mean like the " This spirits longs for this light. found this place and that place " or like the cutscenes?

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Ah, I had videos of them, but I accidentally deleted some of them so SkyFaint

hushed steeple
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A fine addition to my collectionpPopcorn

drifting copper
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i only know keywords from the hints didhdjdhd

woven tundra
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This Spirit longs for the LightRed Red Light. They can be found where darkness prevails.
This Spirit seeks the LightBlue Blue Light. Rumors point toward the pure waters of a mountain lake.
this spirit yearns for LightCyan Cyan Light. It lingers among the early gusts of wind.
This Spirit needs LightGreen Green Light. The fable is they are gifts to the earth from the sky.
This Spirit prays for LightPurple Purple Light. It is said they hoard ancient secrets.
This Spirit cries for the LightOrange Orange Light. They offer warmth in times of cold.
(in order of where they were in Forgotten Ark Tree)

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Your welcome to!

hushed steeple
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Have a question about that orange light

woven tundra
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Mhm?

hushed steeple
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They offer warmth?

pearl void
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Yay Season E ended! Next season prisss! 😊

drifting copper
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warmth just means heat that leads to fire sjdhjddj

potent gate
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What

drifting copper
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eyo fire

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don’t bust your brain

potent gate
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Yeah, I don't have enough brain cells to talk here pCry

uncut bone
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@potent gate simply come up with random theories and see how they mix with other random theories

woven tundra
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Colour theory time: Orange usually is associated with joy, sunshine, and the tropics

pearl void
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LightRed Darkness
LightPurple ?
LightOrange Fire
LightGreen Life/Nature
LightCyan Wind
LightBlue Water
@wicked egret LightPurple Time/Wisdom