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In concepts, it was so powerful Bc it absorbed light by itself
So maybe it grew so powerful Bc it was surround by a bunch of light and it absorbed it all
So Thas why it went boom
Thank you!
so i wanna share my two cents on what i like to think the skykiddos are: i just think its cute to imagine there lil stars personified
i was just wondering if you could pass eden? like go past everything and go into the light dining thingy
*diamond
Oob yes
there’s a wind wall
But there’s no point
oh 😔
It’s jus a diamond, nothing to do there, nothing to accomplish
U simply jus....look at it
Pretty sure everyone does
can someone explain this:
they ded
It’s a guy laying down
why are there permanent spirits and then traveling ones where do the traveling ones come from
You can do that too
why are there permanent spirits and then traveling ones where do the traveling ones come from
@vivid vigil they are from previous seasons. Tgc wanted to give newer players a chance to earn old cosmetics from older seasons
once i knocked myself out like that, went afk, and came back to find some people crying/praying over me lol
There were lots of complaints too, like
“Tgc please bring back crab call, tgc please bring back old spirits, tgc please let us have old seasonal gear it’s not fairrrr
“
So they responded with the traveler spirit system
now i feel bad knowing that ts came from complaints, never complained about it myself tho
Well I’m jus guessing cuz there were tons
Either they responded to those complaints or they simply wanted to be nice
And we should talk about lore discussion
Not tgc discussion
yes yes
so these guys are cool, but were they supposed to be statues or serve some other role i wonder?
This is also a darkstone concept
Oof I'm sorry if I'm interrupting something but I have a question about the elders and their masks they have.
So im sure its obvious their masks are designed after that they were know for/what their realm was abundant in, why is the masks in the valley different from that? Or am I missing something.
what do you mean?
What it's the valley twins mask?? Its bothering me, unless its the no mask one
It's fine! I understand
The valley twins are athletes, active, fast and agile. They were given comfortable and simple masks bc of this. Kinda like how u were simple comfortable shoes when you are running
Ohhh
But the masks also represent that they are 2 halves, this is why each of them have one eye
So they dont really have a mask representing them cosmetic wise? Like with each elder if I remember correctly the mask is a cosmetic worn by a spirit.
I apologize if my wording is a bit confusing in anyway
Besides 2 halves, they don’t have much of a deep meaning
The real mystery is the vault mask
Especially the writing on it
Indeed
Some said it’s like a hand
Some say it’s jus the tower
I rlly don’t have a theory for it at all
I apologize for repeating but is there answer to my other question? If it's not supposed to be answered that is fine
If each elder's mask is purchasable in cosmetics, what would the mask for the valley elders be??
They don’t have a purchasable one
Ohh hm
It looks so alike Bc it’s the same one u can buy
Idk why some spirits have the elder masks actually
Maybe it’s a
WAFO
Wait and find out
Ahh
Ash said this a lot of times
And Idk I liked the phrase so I’ve been saying it a lot now
That kinda weird considering they do that for all the other elders, but the twins were a very concrete design already right? I suppose tgc didnt want to change it so they left it without a purchasable cosmetic. Because that would be weird having one eye. Unless the no mask cosmetic represents it
Like we would ask ash a lore question and she would jus b like......
WAFO
Lol
Valley masks would actually b pretty cool
Yeah that’s what I was thinking @vague plover that would’ve been a weird mask
Hold up
Yeahhh
What jay
Stops typing
There’s a waffle on her bio too 😂😂

WHAHQHJ3JFJJSJEJRF
Let’s give her a waffle and maybe she’ll give us our lore answers
Btw y’all when I went to the ||spacestation|| for the first time yesterday.. itsy bit disappointing
It’s been a while since reika or ash or pines came by so I wrote down questions to ask them when they come back 😂😂
Ik random but just had to say it
Oh that’s jus a silly Easter egg
Lol
“Instead of stressing from work let’s jus make jen’s dog and put him in game”
I actually miss them being here 😔
Reika come bac
Shoot we have to make some waffles for ash
Lol jay can u do we a favor
No
Oop
Go to settings and see how much time you’ve spent on discord in the last week. That’s why I meant
Lol
Plus I use it for discord calls when I’m playing games too
But uhh
We gotta stay on topic
Right ank3krkkxkekktj
Could we say that maybe the no mask cosmetic may represent the valley elders in a way? It wouldn't make much sense for us to have one eye (even tho it would be cool) because the sky kids dont really have another half to share with.
Deleting messages will be a bit hard for me
Lol
Why do we need to pray to get levitation emote?
I'm not sure
This is probably old news but I just noticed that these look like the other temples
They are
They used to be the icons for the temples when u honked
But they were removed sadly
I think it'sneat that they alluded to then so early.
But it begs the question of why this temple has the others in it- lore wise and not for informing players
Hi
Thanks for making me get an f in math
0:
You're welcome
Not sure if this has been said, but could the reason that all the masks from season of enchantment are mouth coverings (beard is a natural mouth cover
) is the ark area has many sandstorms? You can see some sand clouds when there too
:D
And yes there are sandstorms on the island
Neat
They also needed to fit the turban theme but lore wise, it does make sense as to why they needed masks
Yeah
they also wanted to have an excuse to have masks in sky since the coronavirus is here
Does sort of look like one 0:
hmmm kurugii i would try posting that in #screenshots-and-videos next time? it doesn t really relate to lore 
I like ur pfp
Thanks, puffers drew it

🕯️
better move those pics to either #screenshots-and-videos or #eden-spoilers since they’re not related to lore
It's literally lore
@hushed steeple > Just think of the implications
@hushed steeple
This guy has a good point
well would it make a big impact to the entire string of theories people have made here?

There’s a live-stream about that if ur interested
yeah i think it s in the pins
Hey shopping list, haven’t seen u in a while
yeah i haven’t been here in weeks sjdbdhddj
Haven’t rlly missed much
lol we repeated the power diamond and battlefield theory a bunch
Pretty much
either that or jus obvious lore details that get repeated over and over
yall also stuck in a loop similar to the general channel i see
Oh yea and almost everyday there’s someone that says “what’s the lore of the game”
“Can someone send me the lore of the game”
“Is there anywhere where I can read the complete story of da game”
“I’m interested in lore, can someone explain every single thing to me, I’m a moth
“
And then I say no
That’s when they respond like ☹️
dkdvdjdbddhd
they expect us to understand this vague layout of story
literally the only things i can mostly understand is the light placements in each realm
ohhhh that s what they ment
i should really get that stages of life copy pasta written
I’ve done so many lore loops that I took screenshot explanations and made a copy and pasted version of my theories

Literally the same thing over and overrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
What are power diamonds, whos the eden elder, why are spirits blue, are there more elders, what caused the downfall of the civilization, what are the voices in valley of triumph, what creatures are the bones in graveyard, howcome the elder shrines from vault are in orbit, whats this golden pot, whats this dead bird in citadel, why is there a boat with 3 glowy lights in it, whats the story of the ark, hOwCome OuR cApe doESnt haVe a SHadow
It’s all the same, howcome u guys can’t have new theories 😭
I think it’s the one in the citadel entrance?
at the entrance to the citadel theres a dead bird
wait was that an question
it was the arch according to the quest lol
yeah it’s like outside of the entrance
I fixed it
no that was not a question
But it supposed to sound out of context Bc I was being dramatic
And I figured u guys already knew what I was talking about
wait our cape doesn t have a shadow 
yeah
oh my..
i literally only see legs for shadows ehdhebdehrr
yeah
it’s just a game mechanic
It probably is, but I like to think cape = light = no shadow
Ye, that too
Since you get your cape when you get your first shiny boi
Also we get our clothes from dead ppl so it makes sense
But overall it’s a game mechanic
Oh yea there was another question that rlly makes me wanna flip a table and jump into a volcano
was it the office/oreo thing
“Are krills corrupted whalessss 🤯”
That was a big typing stroke 
Flexing ur discord nitro I see
Natural Categorization of ones mind Probably or something, beats me
i am here for once in a long time to say krills are not corrupted whales fite me
hi again daisy long time no see
so what are the dead skeletons in waste land. they are clearly not krills
they have bigger skeletons
so they may be another dark creature
i dont think they are whales either
they have an even bigger skeleton then them too i think
they must've been fighting some very huge big boi
s
Does anybody know what the result of this puzzle is?
what puzzle?
It’s for an Easter egg, but not exactly the right channel for that Sunflower!
oh that s an easter egg that unlocks a dog, and i would ask that in #questions-and-help next time with spoilers!
!picspoiler
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Oohhhhh okay
Thank you so much 💚
I wasn't quite sure where to put it since it was part of the 8 person puzzle and that qualifies as spoilers
yep, you can just spoiler tag it and ask in the question channel!
Yeah, it’s alright to post it on #questions-and-help if you spoiler the image!
Mmkay, thank you!
The only things you can’t post no matter what in these channels are beta content
And hacked content

Definitely, what’s in beta
stays in beta
( oh and hacked contents definitely not welcome here in this server )
ANYHOOT!!!
ello everyone, been a while here in this channel ! Got something I had in mind, the moment I saw this tweet
https://twitter.com/maysky44213256/status/1272309468215140352?s=21

There’s something interesting about the sitting arrangements for these spirits
skymii has entered the chat
hi skymii
what s your theory?
especially when it comes to the different between Five realms and Wasteland spirits at the Elder’s temples
Like if you pay close attention to how close the forest spirits are compare to the ones in Wasteland Temple; scattered and apparently on two sides
You could say something about the relations that happens within each realms
( hmm idk if this already talked about but it’s something interesting to have in mind )
Hello btw Miles! More of a speculation rather than a theory 
hmmm it could do with the fact that there are simply more spirits in forest 
but also that s an interesting point cause forest spirits are the most connected i think
Mhmm, especially how scattered and distant the Wasteland spirits are with each other when it comes to sitting at their Elder’s shrines ( and interesting how you have the cape spirit for each side )
_looks at the old theory of having two factions having war at each other in Wasteland _
oh my bad wait hold on XD
(1/4) vs (1/3)


How do you English honestly 
nyoom
But yeah, Civil War theory!
For some reasons I don’t think that’ll be the case for the wasteland spirits to be sorted like that due to the civil war but heh who knows
do the crabs roasting over a campfire in wasteland imply that they are edible?
Mhmm!
but imo, the spirits could eat them but we can't
civil war i think
oh nice
ignore the first chunk i copy pasta the wrong thing
hmm best to put the message link to avoid wall text! but that’ll do for now
Um
wait did i seriously copy paste the wrong thing
wait 
maybe?
wait that s diamond production 
we were on crab consumption a little bit ago
might wanna delete them then
ah
Might have to erase my diamond theory there 😂
ignore that i never posted anything 
id assume they'd basically be poisonous to skykids if we could eat them
guess im never gonna get that tempura krill huh?
hmmmm but the spirits that were in wasteland were using emotes that sort of indicated that they were post war 
like sneak spirit was hiding from a krill
it seems like the faint spirit was right after the war
Also I should rlly make a new civil war copy and pasted theory since the one u sent earlier is a bit old. It was one of my old speculations and I’ve had months of new fax
And yes I noticed that too
Along with the duck spirit
another reason why krill were most likely not present during the war is there is no aerial defense present in the battlefield. aside from the catapult in graveyard
Uhh off topic but last beta invite is out everyone 
yep i m preparing for the worst
server might crash or lag again
y'know, i think i'm pretty content staying in live
Even if they did, they rlly don’t have the weapons or tech to take on the krill, they don’t have physical bodies
ah, true
is the phasing through krill thing canon lore tho?
i mean, i guess there is no reason to add it since they probably assumed we wouldn't me j u m p i n g on them 
We all tried it before
anyways i gotta go work now, bye!
is there any theory about wasteland being a stronghold or a fortress (I'm not sure about the word, I'm not english native) for Eden?
gl at work ri 
thank youu
terrific lemon your english is perfect! 
i don t think there is a theory yet, but if you have some proof we can think about it!
it does seem possible!
the main theory right now is that wasteland used to be the factory place for the sky kingdom!
Hence you see faraway lands that look like factories
yeah, like if you look to the left in the first area you see a lil factory island!
Pretty sure, it's clearly a industrial area... but... for exemple... in shipwreck area there's something like a huge wall and behind the elder's temple there's another one.
Hmmmmm it’s a bit of both
The last part of wasteland is more of a fortress
But the first areas is more industrial, and ive seen 3 factories in wasteland so far
Oh yea theres also the graveyard which puts a lot of theories in place
I was at Wasteland yesterday candle running, then there's that small blocked off area after the temple (1 krill area)
I wonder if it leads to the pipes factory?
That one where nobody can go
I tried flying up there but wind walls
does anyone have a theory for why pretty much all the instruments are left handed?
Correct me if I’m wrong, but in elder cutscenes, a lot of them seem to be left-handed from what I’ve seen
or maybe I’m just mixed up
I don't remember. I skip them most of the time now :x
Everybody in Sky is a lefty. It's officially canon now.
I've decided that it's canon now.
The guitar was a coding error I believe, but idk about the other instruments
I wouldn’t think too much of it tho
Them being left handed doesn’t rlly help with the lore
most animals have handedness and it's usually right. So a species (or a world of several species) with the opposite of our own could have lore implications
I guess
Left handers rights 
"Give lefties more rep" - Sky 2020
that pun took way too long for me to get
What about ppl who are both left and right handers 🥺
ambidextrous 
I do some things with my right hand but that doesn’t make me right handed
just throwing suggestions cus they dont do much with their hands
just because i play piano with both hands doesn t make me ambidextrous 
and skykids do a bunch with their hands!
I use right and left dominantly but with that logic earlier, everyone Uses both left and right
Eventually there is a point in life where u use either hand
Being right handed simply means it’s ur dominant hand
And yes, this chat has now turned into #hand-discussion-spoilers
how much does this entire channel derail 
We derail a lot here
Heyy I learn a lot from derailing at least
I discovered ash’s name is Ashley
Reika has a cat, the life stage of a star, jen’s dog is oreo, skymii has an artstation, theres a hidden Mario star under the map and a BUNCH of other stuff
It’s fun to get off track sometimes!!
Darkstone was something found in forest
Power diamonds are something MADE in forest
@sly kestrel i think darkstone are the power diamonds? That’s what one of the mods said
where's the mario star?
The mario Star doesn’t exist anymore
I was thinking about the power diamonds... maybe this technology just works with stones... there's no sign of diamonds working in wood (i don't guess so)
The trees in sky light be made of stone (like how wood petrifies)
I believe you got that from seraph, darkstone may still exist but not specifically in the way the concepts described
And we all kno about the second material required to make the diamonds, who knows, that might be darkstone as well
For now, imma jus say let’s wafo

Trust me I actually wanna call it darkstone but, I can’t be sure yet
For now it’s jus
p o w e r d i a m o n d
you can chibi into the potion cauldron in Ark and there’s a weird dark-cored flame tho dangit my screenshot didn’t save... also, birds seem to be attracted to the spellcrafting pavilions and come sit on top of them
so what role did spells play in the ancient Skyworld system like are we descended from elders who overtinied so much they got stuck this way
I’m pronouncing ur name as Sai-deera-cat
Is that right?
Oh hey ash, seems like u reacted to sidera’s message when the roles of spells was mentioned. I’ll keep that in mind 😁😁......
wait what ash when oh heck
meh, my Skyname can be pronounced any which way, incl “squid” if ywanna
The reason why children of light play instruments (such as the guitar and harp) with their left hands was unintentional. They were right-handed when the animations were made, but were somehow mirrored when coded to the game.
@/SkyOwlKey
🐙
I am a bit suspicious now that ash reacted to that message, oh hey mocha
I believe you haven't seen this Jay
wait but wouldn’t a horizontal flip actually be upside-down cus horizontal axis is... horizontal
Actually uhhhh
I have a long theory for it....
So far it’s 7 paragraphs BUT
Once I get more proof and speculation and stuff I’ll narrow it down and send it, jus like I did with the power diamond theory. It used to be 10 paragraphs of me talking before 😂
I dunno google gives me back both😂 if that's true I'll just correct the document
anyway it didn't mean upside down, meant mirrored
im confused
does "reversed" make sense? or "mirrored" is better?
mirrored
Thanks ginsy! corrected
I think the second material is wood.
Boats were a more sustainable way of attaining the material, but even they needed diamonds
have we considered that fossil fuels are also quite powerful?
Idk lol
Oooh can we talk about how language works in sky?
Like I don’t think we’ve ever seen actual ‘words’ in sky
And I’ve never heard skykids actually say ‘words’, or for the animals and plants to talk
Does the beeping act as a sort of language?
there are the pseudorunes on the bell spinners and Vault’s headdress
So are skykids like whales and they use echolocation to speak?
do message candles count?
Oookay I have never considered ts
But why then do skykids beep when we send a message?
I can't decipher from this angle ;-;
Heh?
But why then do skykids beep when we send a message?
@drowsy spoke I think they kinda like... Convert the emotions to the light/wax trough echolaion? idk
Oooooooh
Yeah I think you’re all right!
You know how sky kids have the candle in their chest?
Maybe a part of their flame resonates within a friends heart
Maybe they send emotions through that!
And that’s why they can;t talk to mantas or crabs
Even though we can ‘crab call’ they don’t understand us
Because they don’t have the fire in their chest!
We can also mimic them to fool most species
Maybe their light is the like life source of skykids? When you get your candle out the one in your chest dissapears too
Yeah
I think that skykids are essentially clay statues with a fire heart
The fire heart is like their ‘soul’
They have little light eye holes, but without the third eye we have.
I'd say wax statues
Same
And everything about them (clothes, hair, speech) they have to learn from others because they are wax statues
They have little light eye holes, but without the third eye we have.
@undone steppe That's the mask accesorry, not a third eye
They learn speech from the animals because the spirits don’t talk
And the rest they learn from the spirits
Oooo Yea
I have opened my third eye
Wax is made with tallow.... Ewww
Every mask has a third eye
Why tho?
You don't have eye holes like spirits according to nonmask
Is this a proof that there were two kinds of krill? The corrupted one and this good one which might have been obliterated by the bad ones since they are much more powerful?
Idk. It seems oddly specific
Wandering trader that ones a whale
If you look at the skull it matches that of a whale
I remember someone saying it was a whale that crashed
😔
It caused a rock fall that blocked the wholes of the cave where the cry spirit is
It trapped the cry spirit and her friends inside... and we know the rest
Sad 😔
Merp ikr
We saw that in the bird call spirit's cutscene too
They learn speech from the animals because the spirits don’t talk
(Sorry I spent hours to see if I recorded that but couldnt find it)
Woah so whales are manta elders???
Welp, I guess my imagination is too wild then. 😅
No that was a scrapped concept
Does this mean that eventually the mantas will become whales???
It's cool, I thought the same
Something that resembles elder manta can only be seen in the vault
But other than that they’re completely separate species iirc
I need to stop dumping pics at 2 am
Or maybe krills are the corrupted version of whales. I mean, I’ve never seen a shrimp reference on the entire game. Tho, The game calls them dark dragons when we send light to our friends.
No krill and whales aren’t related
Cause well one is a fish
And the other is a shrimp thing 
Could be though, just needs more proof
...whales are mammals?
Hey what made us call them krills anyway
If they’re a ‘dark dragon’ are there light dragons
Maybe the manta that gets obliterated every time in golden wasteland is one of their childs?
Krill is a really tiny shrimp irl
This is a real krill
Literally a small shrimp no difference
:O
Except it’s see through
Do you see the resembalence 
Im gonna eat the krill
What if the krill from sky is in real life and as the size of the normal sized krill so its like a big shrimp and when the fishermen catches it its shrimp tasting
Irl whales eat krill
But the whale is actually based off of 2 types of fishes that don’t eat krill
And if I remember correctlyyyyy
Krill was a fan name given
We eventually stuck with it Bc it actually takes the form of a krill and makes more sense
even if it's a canon name, don't take them too seriously when you theorize
The fact the devs calling
a whale or tuna king does not necessarily mean the creature is a mammal or fish
like the ones in Forest?
Yeah
and that skychildren are just the larval form of a large bird like creature
and that the megabird laying so many skykid eggs is an effort to repopulate the sky world
Since she seems to be the last of her kind
uhhhh but we can fly way before getting frozen into pseudo-chrysalis form in Eden
I doubt the megabird needs to lay actual eggs to make her children
And I think there is only one megabird in the universe
unless she’s the megabird queen and we’re just... worker antbirds
what do we know about the megabird
It’s possible though
since each skykid seems to somehow be connected to the bird
yes, and I do think skykids are children of megabird
tho we’re more like bees gathering light to distill into... honey glow stars??? idk
NO WRONG CHANNEL SORRY
Sorry again guys ahahah
I just think it's unlikely the skykids are hatched from eggs and gonna be megabirds when they grow up
Es cool, that was funny
“I love the smell of fresh winged light in the morning...”
it was an interesting thought
how are skykids made?
and I also want to know if they ever grow up
I know that they don’t become spirits since they’re a different race
HUGE SPELL ARK
I want to meet the megabird 
you do after you die in Eden
the megabird image is a formation of many lights, like a galaxy that we’re all stars in
so we don’t exactly meet her
my headcanon is skykids are shards of the king, so I'd say they are made by a destruction
i always thought that the megabird created skykids then sent them to the kingdom
like how god made adam with dirt from the earth
but minus the dirt and more like hardened clay
the megabird probly made the king, and she also woke the skykids up
i always saw the megabird as a god lol
um so when all 8 ppl in a server do piggyback tower, they’re reassembling king?
hey kids wake up it's time you go and clean up your own mess
there are millions of skykids so 8 of them only make a slightly bigger piece
sky as postcolonial reparations
I’d say it’s possible that the human world exists in sky somehow
or coexists alongside it
that the sky dimension is derived from the human world
Yuck the implication that the megabird is a queen bee and we are her bees gross me out
@spring blaze I always thought that skykids were made of wax
i mean you can think that haha

In the opening cutscene, this person to the left was at the center of 6 elder stars, and later became Eden. and I suppose most people agree that the person to the right is a skykid
like pianos, guitars, harps, and candles
Are the ancestor spirits and what not the souls of human beings
And sky is the afterlife
they are not human technology
skykids aren’t human; I know
All the instruments (seasonal/normal) in Sky are invented and made in Sky kingdom, so they are different from musical instruments we play in real life. But the devs need to refer to real-life instruments when making sounds of Sky instruments, and this season they referred to guitar and ukulele. The designs (?) are based on guitar and lute.
but how did they get pianos and guitars
^information from a Season of Belonging livestream
ohhhh
“Child of light” to be exact 😉
Was there any information about winged lights and why they exist
there are multiple children of light falling in the intro cutscene
No i mean the kid in the middle
Yes there were many skykids made but the main one was the child of light
The one we apparently have a close relationship with
I think so but that's never confirmed?
That the Eden person in the intro is the Child of the Light
i mean the intro in particular
@hushed steeple winged lights are described by devs as imprints of children of light or imprints of the child of light
@hushed steeple and Jenova said a player is a child of light
Ok yes I admit that was me theorizing but
Let’s look at where I got it, I was told about this high entity being called the child of light. We are children and we look like this child in the middle. Since it’s in the middle of all the elders and since imprints were made from the child of light, it’s safe to say that this person is a high entity. Also it’s imprints look exactly like a child
I have other reasons but here’s the main idea
This is eventually where I got the idea that the kid in the middle is the child of light
I am still not sure if the launch livestream meant to imply the existence of "the child of light" but I do believe the Eden kid is the (original) child of light
And yes us skykids are called children of the light but
The fact that they said “The” child of light, is what made me believe them. It’s what made me belive it’s one specific entity
it's like a huge spoiler
they did say "the child of light" when they were talking about the winged light, and they also said winged lights are imprints of children of light in another video
plural children, without an article
yea.....reika couldn’t say anything about it so u could b right about it being a spoiler
Oh and I hate to say this but....it’s addicting
This is a WAFO
I am just not sure if they meant to say that. I agree with your theory
WAFO
each season we get new unsolved mysteries
I remember
Everything
I even remember her describing the sky story as an Italian moth trying to save the princess and avoiding dark plants!!
But I believe she was referring to Mario....
We ARE Italian moths trying to save the princess
Oof
I take her comment as yes
took it yesterday
anyway, so, the blue kid is one of us, and the shiny one is the Eden elder who later got broken to pieces, and those pieces are us
Isnt ,, the story of sky just about life? Fist time I completed eden it asked me to take a survey and kinda explained what the game was about (as a kid you’re happy n then you get a midlife crisis and d i e)
it is about the life cycle but we think that's not the only lore
we want to know what happened to the kingdom of Sky
Even tho each of them represents a stage of life, it wasn’t something in mind when the realms were built
For example, they didn’t build wasteland and intentionally make it look like a mid life crisis
Spirits during eden construction work
“so, where do we start”
“Let’s jus make this whole realm look like death
Omg something really creepy I found out while doing Eden: u know those statues before point of no return? Well, it's so creepy that if the rocks hit them they start disintegrating 
They WHAT

What do you mean they start disintegrating???
I don’t remember this part???
there are some petrified kids in Eden before the point of no return. They disintegrate, and we cannot give our wings to them
Oh yeah, anyone know what type of flower this is?
Calling all botanists... calling all botanists...
it's a flower from another TGC game called Flower
And real-life wise i think that's a tulip!
Oooh
A sort of blue tulip?
Hm does that mean we and the sky world share the same botany?
Well there are no glowing types of tulips like that one but
There are blue tulips
There are all sorts of tulips
And maybe. Or it could just be a design choice
It seems like a sort of mutated tulip
That flower is in a VERY dark cave (with only candles as light)
Considering the cyan leaves,no wonder
Real life tulips need sunlight
Also real life tulips don’t glow so XD
So does this support the theory that sky world is our world in the future after something Really Bad happened?
Something that can cause mutations?
Bioengineered glowy flower https://elifesciences.org/digests/52786/bioluminescent-fungi-unlock-new-toolkit-for-plant-research

Is this the sword from the valley elder twin? From eden
Valley twins don’t have swords
What they have are jus sticks that were used “in an ancient game”
But
Those swords are found in the battlefield, along with the 2 sun shields
oh wow, I've never seen that door (or at least, I've never paid attention to it)
Edennn
Ohh😅
another interesting thing about eden is the entrance door has faces carved onto it looking at you
it reminded me a bit of the statues of the elders and i was wondering if people had any thoughts about that
I think the door has the elders on it
there was debate about (I think) Isle elder missing on it
as there's only 5 on it, not 6
It’s a beta thing where the isle elder didn’t count so it wasn’t rlly important to the gate but
Some say there might be another reason why the same gate model still exists in the game
what do they say about it
Hm... maybe the isle elder is the only uncorrupted one?
So he can’t be on the eden door because Eden has no control over him
The isle elder didn't send light to the sky. His job is probably us rather than the stars
The isle elder has the diamond symbol on his mask, robes, and staff, indicating that he was somehow involved in the corrupt industrial movement that lead to the extinction of the spirit species. The whole concept of the elders anyway is that they are the ones who caused the darkness, so I doubt that would exclude the isle elder. What I wonder is what role he could have possibly played in the power diamond production.
Maybe instead of being directly involved with the production, he stood back and watched while the world fell into darkness.
As the spirits stopped trying to ascend to Eden, he gave up on his job as guide and retreated into his temple, never taking action against the evil
In a way, it’s more like Skyworld rose up into darkness— as you go up Prairie looks shiny and happy, but subtle signs of decline and decay increase as you move toward the temple : broken boats, dark plants etc. Higher up and the Forest rain goes toxic, Valley looks mostly okay but buildings are rekt and the temple is fulla more darks plants n crabs, Wasteland has krills beaming death from above, Vault is a purgatory acid trip elevator, and Eden stormlock isthe highest part of all
It's unclear whether or not spirits inhabited all the realms at once, or whether it was more like a mass migration as the society grew and developed
I'm inclined to think it wasn't a migration because based on the nature of civilization, people only migrate if they have a clear incentive to. I believe people settled down and formed families in each realm, and the different levels of technological advancement in the realms were a result of the trade system.
Daylight Prairie processed and packaged raw materials (butterflies), which then got sent to be molded into diamonds by Forest, who sold diamonds in exchange for entertainment to Valley, and so on. The fact that the technology gets more advanced as you move through the realms (and thus the darkness also increases) is simply a result of the linear direction of the trade system.
Hmm that’s an interesting question actually: how do we see diamonds being used in Valley? How would Valley entertainment have been consumed by Forest: tourism? holographic cube recordings of lacrosse twins and air/snow races? And are there parallels we can draw between the twins’ lacrosse sticks, Forest’s forge hammer, and Wasteland’s spear? Or for that matter Isle’s staff?
so um theory time
what if skykids are smaller version of red robes from journey
they both recharge and have "light energy"
Also consider Vault’s holocubes/lanterns as really teched up versions of Prairie’s pots
Or as cored versions of Forest’s octahedral “diamonds” with all four side corners sliced off and a smaller octahedralish hollow inside
and what if krill are just versions of guardians
in addition most of the spirits are robed, tall beings
and also chirps
Has anyone found out what that big fish is in the hidden forest?
I haven’t but he does look cool
I feel like it’s the krill but like... with skin and kinda alive gshsgshwb
That actually makes sense, maybe they drifted away from the light and became corrupted
Yeah I was thinking something like that
The Big Fish is the Hidden Forest (and I believe also in the part between the Valley and the Wasteland) Is called a Whale. The bones in the forest's boneyard (where you can get the call) are also their bones
i’ve had the thought of the spirits immortalizing us as kids bouncing around my head for a while
mainly because we as sky kids don’t seem to grow up in game, but there are spells that can make us into a baby/adult for 10 mins
maybe before the spirits disappeared/died they decided to immortalize us to always keep helping them in eden?? kinda sad now that i think about it
I wonder why the frozen kids in Eden before the point of no return are completely dead
If we as sky kids are immortal
Why would the frozen kids be permanently dead?
they don’t glow aqua, and instead have giant blue crystals sticking out of them, maybe the blue spikes contain them?
or maybe since they have no glow they can’t be revived
wait
I believe that the krill are some type of machine and that they obviously got out of control at some point. That or they were created by mistake, possibly by the elders. Thoughts?
whaleeeeeeee
Yes
w h a l e

Ohhh that’s a game mechanic, they didn’t wanna put too much effort into a detail so small and it’s also a technical limitation. Even if they did add it, it would put more stress into the game and cause lag
oh
So they made all shadows simple
In the diamond press room in wasteland, is the dark dragon being born when it emerges from the sludge, similar to how mantas are born from clouds?
I wouldn’t say born
The way I saw it, it looked more like the krill was “awakened”
no one can resist the smell of fresh skykid
Keep in mind the dark dragons in the graveyard were never awakened, but rather continuously on the prowl
I’m not talking about those lol
I'm just saying it seems like krill don't sleep
So u think that the krill at the factory jus got born all of a sudden and decided to go eat a manta
Pretty much
I don't think krill are necessarily robots; they just appear mechanical because of their connection w/ industrialization.
It's symbolic
krill can close their eye/become blind, and when the first krill shows up in wasteland we see that its already blind/closed its eye
Babies are often born with their eyes closed ig
I think the red light blue light came from a lil design motive from journey with their guardians. And I never got the mechanical vibe from them, I jus saw them as corrupted creatures with their dark essence
@drowsy spoke about the message about the Statues in Eden, literally when Rocks hit them they disintegrate
Bubble coffee ☕️
the red and blue light is a rlly cool addition albeit a strange one
@sly kestrel it's not early for me
Bubble boba
if you leave graveyard through through the battlefield area, then re-enter, you’ll see the krills emerge from the ground in graveyard
ive never done that 
when you usually enter graveyard, the krills are already there bc you entered the general area through the diamond press room, so you dont get to witness them cone out the ground
And I had this lil theory about krills a while back. I used to think that they are slowly dying and that’s why they are so desperate for light. I got this bc....well when we are slowly dying in eden, I noticed these black flakes coming out of us and when we at the brink of death we have black flakes all over us and a dark body. This is basically the texture of a krill....so I thought
Maybe the krill are slowly dying 😕
For me it's not like that actually. Everytime I go throu battlefield I have to activate the pillar to trigger the cutscene and so seeing them, but actually I don't do that because I can glitch throu the gate
that would imply that the krill were some kind of light creatures at first? maybe?
For me it's not like that actually. Everytime I go throu battlefield I have to activate the pillar to trigger the cutscene and so seeing them, but actually I don't do that because I can glitch throu the gate
@steep coyote battlefield =/= graveyard
Jus a theory, haven’t had one in a while 
OMG
issa cool one at that
SORRY AHAHAH
i meant that when re-entering graveyward through the battlefield exit, you can see the krills come out haha
I couldn't remember I swear - AHAHAH
its alright! we make mistakes 
We could then extend that theory to crabs
@spring blaze oh! I've never did that, I might try it
bro thas cheating 
Don’t u want the heart beating excitement of 3 krill looking for you
Well crabs are different in every byome u visit
Yeah but they are covered in the same black stone texture
They might be slowly dying too
In Wasteland they are totally black, in Forest they are grey but with black mist/particles on their bodies
And in Valley they are orange
Are y’all talking about my slowly dying theory or u jus wanna look at crabs
wait they re orange?
im pretty sure thats just lighting lol
And their color depends on the lighting
Yeah actually? Seems there's no water near them so they are orange maybe
u tryna say they are chameleons or sumtin
IDK AHAHAH

ALSKDJFLKASJDFLKa
I like crabs but you can see how different they are from every byome
evolution
And I've noticed the ones at Wasteland are way angrier than the ones at Ark or Forest
Hmmm they all behave the same to me but it would make sense if they are more aggressive there, there is far more corruption in wasteland
Exactly
Ok my revised idea about dark creature birth is that they emerge straight from shadows. Crabs are only found in caves and other dark places, and krill seem to reside in the ground.
I know :3
And you are cluepod!
Ig clouds are kinda the opposite of shadows: pure light as opposed to pure darkness
Yeah it's growing on me
Btw I still think Krills are mechanical. They appear only in Wasteland and Eden and we know they were industrial areas, in fact we can't find them at Forest or Praire
they sound like it
And they even follow the same path. Even if they attack us they return to their place and restarting their route
They certainly are related to industry, but rather than being a part of it I'm inclined to believe that they spawned from it. The devs just designed their appearance and sound to reflect that.
i remember someone talk abt the way light vs dark creatures act and it was so eye opening for me lmao i never thought abt it that way
Plus they attack only if you meet their exact path. They don't chase us like Crabs, they stand there waiting for you to disappear
They do chase you though while they can see you
But if you hide they stop
Ig they're just dumb?
crabs and krills are kinda wack; theyre both dark creatures but crabs are more sentient than krills
But Krills don't follow where you are flying or simply fly to reach you, they stand still and then if you don't go away they attack
have you seen crabs help flip over knocked over crabs?
I still think it's noteworthy that dark dragons are classified as dark creatures. Creature is not a term usually applied to manmade machines.
Plus their attack is not a bite, they just push you away, but since they are heavy you loose your light
iirc devs said all the creatures are natural
@spring blaze yes! It was funny tbh AHAHA
iirc devs said all the creatures are natural
@spring blaze
Oh, didn't know that ;;
i found it so cute!! when i found out for the first time i kept knocking them over so i could watch aha
hey dont worry much about it! its not common knowledge, even i was dead set on thinking krills were manmade
I emulate them when they flip over ahaha
But then Krills behaviour is really strange
The best way to describe krill is that they're naturally formed machines
They are designed specifically to seem mechanical, so their behaviors reflect that.
well when i observed crabs they were actually moving almost randomly while the krills were on a deformation curve, i think this is to enhance gameplay maybe, but it could also show how the crabs are more sentient?
Also their sound
They are designed specifically to seem mechanical, so their behaviors reflect that.
@round musk
Also their spotlight ig
If krill moved randomly like crabs I think I'd cry and delete the app
They're hard enough to avoid as it is
Idk... I'd be fun to me
It would add to the whole hiding experience. But it would be very stressing for new players. I remember being terrified of Krill flying close to my hiding spot and hearing their rumbling sounds 
Then change sky's rating to pg-13 
Maybe it's just me, I play so many horror games that krill were nothing new to me
I didn't think of crabs as threatening until I ubered 2 people for a candle run and they kept knocking us over at the shipwreck
Crabs are only damaging when theres another bigger threat
Maybe it's just me, I play so many horror games that krill were nothing new to me
@normal berry probably. I never played horror games (mostly because I don't like horror and I couldn't afford some) so meeting Krill was an experience
I don't even find them scary I just hate losing my light
They are more annoying then scary
As a matter of fact, krill have an almost identical behavior to a certain monster in my favorite horror game
just like the simulations
Now I play hide and seek with them, I only get agitated when they spot me ("Noooo my light!!!")
I remember lots of ppl’s opinions on krill saying it’s too scary for kids and they thought it was too dark and needed more bright happy vibes 🙂
Lol krill are nothing
But anyways um I noticed something earlier on my lil trip to wasteland
5 out of the 6 realms are pure fun and magic
Eden is not magic and fun 
Same tho. They really nailed it with Wasteland and Eden
I wanna eden season that's heavy metal themed 
I wanna power diamond-powered electric guitar to shred 
And then it overloads like the eden diamond 

after plucking a string ln that guitar it explodes like the eden diamond 
Ok but in all seriousness that would be sick
I'm still traumatized by them
Not the exploding part
JAY WHAT DID U NOTICE sorry the suspense is killing me
Yes I wanna know 
TELL US 
Anyways. Sometimes I think we could associate the 7 Seven Deadly Sins with the Elders. (Eden King/prince too, even tho it's just a concept).
I noticed prairie elder is very sleepy so Sloth came to mind.
And I sort of came up with these:
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Isle: I have no clue honestly
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Prairie: Sloth
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Forest: Greed (Power hungry and stuff. The cutscene is kinda self-explanatory)
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Valley: Envy (They kind of fight for the Skykid's candle)
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Wasteland: Wrath (haha war go brrrr)
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Vault: pride???? (Not sure about this one)
Also JAY, GIVE US THE THEORY JUICE 
The sin theory is mostly just an interesting connection I made. I don't really think they are meant to represent them
I like the idea though
I'm the gluttony elder 
Thank you Cluepod! Gluttony had me thinking 
I don't like that that leaves the isle elder for lust
Wanderlust, maybe???
Oooh
He's the boat dude
That's why I said I had no idea
I really doubt Isle is the [not kid friendly] sin
Wanderlust, maybe???
@round musk makes more sense that way
Jay is writting a copy of the bible at this point
Why must Jay torture us so
@heady sinew "war go brrr brrr" AHAHAH
Always thought the Isle Elder is Caronte from the Divina Commedia
Also JAY, GIVE US THE THEORY JUICE
Yes
The sins idea got me thinking about what the mistakes of all the elders were. Here's how I think each of the elders contributed to the spread of darkness:
Isle: being passive and choosing inaction
Prairie: being ignorant about the repercussions of his actions
Forest: being stubborn and power hungry
Valley: taking advantage of the others' questionable actions
Wasteland: being headstrong and realizing the truth too late
Vault: knowing what she was doing was wrong but doing it anyway
Eden: giving in to the ultimate temptations
@round musk this adition to my theory is so good
thank you!
I wonder if the Elder cutscenes show them in limbo, kind of paying for the sins they committed
Like Wasteland is fighting something that isn’t there and Prairie is sleeping rather than working, which is what Prairie was basically focused on
Valley is fighting for the light rather than sharing it and Vault is forced to showcase the sins the elders committed
Isle was rid of his control over the birds and began sort of crumbling
Then Eden just straight up died
Probably because there’s no redemption for what Eden did
Forest is forced to watch her creations crumble before her eyes
Ooh that’s a good one, I didn’t think of that
And then by returning and reconnected the elders to The light, we save them from that purgatory

It seems like I missed reika again
I mean, if you noticed the one spirit in the Forest, they had an umbrella
I was reliving it today

Well in my theory
Those are the lightseeker spirits
The hats, the umbrellas, the light chasing, the boat with 3 orbs
It all connected for me
hi friends! i hope everyone's having a good day!
hi reika, hope you re having a good day too! 
I like your profile pic reikaaaaa
hi Reika!!!
If ur available is it alright if I ask oneeeee tiny small little question? 🥴
We need lore hints
ya know devs arent lore-vending machines right? 
Maybe if you guys didn’t pressure the devs for information immediately they would stop by more often
heYYyy i wasn’t gonna ask her a huge lore question
She just said hi
If anything it doesn’t rlly help with lore at all
If you’re still around, hey reika
my day has been a bit busy, but overall great. Hope you’re doing fine too ^^
i wasn t going to ask her any questions :V
...I don’t use anyone as lore machines
aww ❤️
my day has been pretty nice so far
and yes ill take a question! been a little busy with meetings
(and pfp was a doodle by shira hohoho)
I was jus gonna ask her this, and if it was answered....well it could save me a lot of time and give me some closure on things
“I’ve noticed that new lore details are being added every occasional update and even the season of enchantment seemed like something TOTALLY new and random to the sky lore. I was jus wondering, is the entire sky lore set and planned out already? Or are you guys gradually making the story as you develop the game”
Oh wow my WiFi is bad
hi there ebhuck! 
ohhh, as much as i wish i could say it's planned out, its very likely not LOL
:0
i think the core game loop has a set story that doesn't change really
but the seasonal content and a lot of the additional features/entertainment is to build up the world rather than the lore
that might be a more fun perspective without being tied down to the correct answer about everything
of course, we can't make something that ruins the entire lore either though
......this actually helped a lot
Thank you reikaaaa
thank you reikaaa 
jay are you sneping enough 
.......I mean technically I have 24 other questions that I actually wrote down so I can ask you guys once u come back, BUT IM DONE FOR NOW
Gotta get that sneep
And yes I am, but tonight will be a good sleep this time 🤜🏻
Hello Ashhhhh
How are you today?
crab answers? Did I arrive on time?
also, there isn't much wood objects in the game either, they mostly, if not completely, used stone for furniture, tools, etc.
theres even a stone bed, which seems really uncomfty
and its not like they couldn't make blankets and sheets because theres banners and tablecloths seen in forgotten ark and hidden forest
oh wait, there was wood objects: the catapult in wasteland and the balcony thingies on the trees in hidden forest
Maybe the rest of the wood disintegrated over time, and the little we see has been preserved
maybe like petrified wood?
Either that or they had some kind of glaze that kept certain wood and fabric from degrading
we carry around some things made of wood (instruments, chat props) where did it come from
technically fabric can be made of stone (spun asbestos frex) but it wears out
tho what are our capes made of too
theres fan theories that capes are made of light, since they don't cast a shadow but i think the official reason for that is it helps with performance
but capes disappear when light is lost so i doubt they are physical items
yeah
so about the giant trees...
i think they're not petrified or anything. they really dont have branches and leaves, or are cloud trees. i looked at the murals in the first area of forest, in the small cave. none of them were drawn with leaves eventhough during that time, the corruption hadnt happened yet. there were also murals of pots of light on boats being shipped to Forest, indicating that there was no corruption yet
The production of diamonds with the pots of light WAS the corruption
imagine taking angels and stuffing them into jars to harvest their energy, that s the level of corrupting it is 
~~i really like this sticker for some reason
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I suppose there's no wood in Sky.
Not in a world where light and fire is the vital energy. Wood is a fuel for fire, it wouldn't be logical to sacrifice beings of light when it would be enough to use firewood.
Pretty sure, but the light manifest itself as fire... we can see it when we give the fire to the Elders 
Both fades with time. > Memories are light
@willow bear
Oh look
The tgc artists have returned
why do some of the spirits have the masks of the elders 
The production of diamonds with the pots of light WAS the corruption
@sly kestrel so the process itself is corruption? not the product?
Well in my view it was sorta both
I get that 2 devs jus reacted to my message but that first username jus concerns me...
Walking on dark plants makes the same sound as walking on the Forgotten Ark's fabric thingies
Whaaaa
What would happen if there was a light krill that all the dark krills tried to eat all the time, so it went into exile
I always thought that whales were light krills
Ehhhh
But that might not be it because krills are specified as “dark dragon”, meaning there can be a “light dragon”
Hi Jay pls help we require wisdom
They might be identified as the light dragon and the dark dragon but.....I don’t think the creatures are the same at all. One is a krill and one is a whale, it’s also like 3 times bigger and has no resemblance
Maybe krills are shrunk because no more fleshy
Are you sure? They look like they have an exoskeleton
Well irl they have an exoskeleton but technically it doesn’t rlly count as bones
Here’s my take on this
There are 3 types of creatures, dark, light and neutral
Neutral creatures have physical bodies such as flesh and bone, dark and light are simply made of light and dark essence
We can’t touch em
I gots go but
When we go on a manta or jellyfish, we float
When we touch a krill, we either hit it’s wind aura or we go straight through it
This is very interesting 
Oh
