then we couldve marveled at orbit together..
#lore-discussion-spoilers
spring blaze
late sierra
i finished it alone, but i think it wouldve been nicer with a friend
sly kestrel
It’s hard to run through eden while staying with ur friend
spring blaze
it was both of our first time in eden and we also didnt have chat unlocked so 
sly kestrel
Oh that must’ve been harsh 😂
spring blaze
lol oh yeah
late sierra
my first eden experience wasn't that great @~@ i lost 15 stars and i had no idea what i was getting into and i was scared so i just went home and cried
sly kestrel
Let’s try not to get off topic tho
spring blaze
we were so confused haha
unborn fog
i remember my friend prepared me for eden like for 2 weeks in advance and gave me a bucket load of info to read and watch and i was still hit by the truckload of emotions
sly kestrel
I wasn’t confused at all, I went through the whole journey not knowing about the destination, jus the journey
I had a goal to reach the end....and I did it
unborn fog
i look up to you jay
late sierra
i prefer just giving newbie moths tricks for the obstacles but never spoil them the acsension
spring blaze
man i thought we had to go toward the diamonds :,)
spring blaze
yall are out here gettingthe statues meanwhile i busted my body tryna reach something that was windblocked
sly kestrel
That’s what I thought too honestly
Even tho rain was killing me and I was slowly dying I was like.....”DIAMONDDDD 
“
spring blaze
anyway
late sierra
i thought i failed going to eden at first and just died because i didnt reach the light
sly kestrel
I like how I said not to get off topic but here I am getting off topic 😂
I would be a terrible community shepherd
spring blaze
same jello, i warped home then asked #eden-spoilers to see if i actually had to die
i mean, in shep and im off topic
d e m o t e d
sly kestrel
Ur no longer community shepherd ur jus
“Community”
spring blaze
HAHA YEAH
unborn fog
was the megabird also a scrapped idea?
unborn fog
really? ooooooooooo
spring blaze
its more of a space? thing
spring blaze
i dont have a picture lol
sly kestrel
BUT
We still have yet to prove she exists
Well she had a lot of different concepts and forms, hard to pick
unborn fog
oh is it that thing in the credits that looks like a big overgrown lava feather?
sly kestrel
But the general idea was that she sent the skykids, creatures migrate and get reborn bc of her, all creatures purpose was to actually migrate to the megabird and....ah so much to explain
And me with 0 grammar skills
spring blaze
i think she made us >:00000000
unborn fog
lol grammar is tough
sly kestrel
Concept timeline actually explains that
spring blaze
like in the bible there isnt a physical description of god, i think its the same way with the megabird
in my opinion
unborn fog
yeah the timeline says that all souls gather experience from the world to return to the megabird
it also says 'cycle'
spring blaze
i think megabird is orbit
sly kestrel
Elders are lost, sky kingdom is ruined and destroyed, all hope is lost*
Megabird: “lemme jus send some kids, they’ll fix it”
spring blaze
like we go through that orbit place and theres a bunch more branches outside of our lane too
it makes up the megabird
unborn fog
cause like when you re going to be reborn there are the isle bells
and you re first sent down to isle
shook
spring blaze
maybe megabird isnt even a big fat bird its just the name of the “lava feather” we go through
like how we name galaxies and nebulas
unborn fog
megalavafeather
sly kestrel
The megabird isn’t much of a bird at all that’s physical
It’s more of a high entity of light and life
spring blaze
yeah
unborn fog
like how we name galaxies and nebulas
we named a galaxy ngc 224 once but yeah i agree with you
spring blaze
so like i see the megabird as god
whos taken in the form of some sort of galaxy we go thru in orbit
sly kestrel
All theory tho
spring blaze
yeah
unborn fog
i never watched through the end of the credits cause i had to eat dinner, but i remember seeing a planet fly by the camera?
sly kestrel
Unless we....take a dev hostage and interview em
spring blaze
but like talking about the megabird like this makes me realize that hey i actually have a theory on how to describe the megabird
a bunch of planets fly past
iirc
sly kestrel
U.....WHAT
NON CREDIT WATCHER 
sly kestrel
There was also a piano song as well
It was an emotional version of the forest music
Surprise surprise I actually took the time to learn it....
unborn fog
wait is isle of dawn separate from the mainland like a sandbank or is it like a peninsula
spring blaze
man go to bed
spring blaze
lore can wait
sly kestrel
That’s like saying
Is hidden forest a forest?Or is it jus hidden? 
unborn fog
That’s like saying
Is hidden forest a forest?Or is it jus hidden?
i mean why is it called hidden? just the clouds or smth else
spring blaze
and wasteland is, well, a wasteland
unborn fog
no it s a meadow
spring blaze
ah yes my bad
unborn fog
city?
oh lol
also ginsy i live in pdt timezone so it s not that late, i slept 10 hours last night
sly kestrel
Took a bit of time to answer ur question
It wasn’t rlly a city at all
Valley is more of a city
sly kestrel
Wasteland is a fortress/factory/industry hybrid
unborn fog
i just had a really good thought but it flew out of my brain
sly kestrel
All bells have the same sound
unborn fog
yeah it rings in orbit doesn t it?
sly kestrel
I noticed that most bells symbolized a birth or rebirth of something a while ago
For example, isle being the first stage of sky which would be our birth, the act of bringing us into the sky kingdom, praire bells bringing the birth of the mantas through the clouds like the devs explained, and eden when we get reborn
unborn fog
they seem to be pretty important to the ancestors and elders? idk
unborn fog
wasn t the vault constructed after the battle?
sly kestrel
My rebirth, birth bell theory got crushed after I realized that these bells are in forest
Ehhh not rlly
unborn fog
the crabs?
unborn fog
was that section the mine or somewhere else
sly kestrel
And I feel bad cuz reika told us how hard their artists worked on making the murals and we barely even pay attention to them or theorize 
Most of the lore dudes jus theorized that the spirits took too much of the crabs’s water and they got mad and started attacking
unborn fog
send love to reika and their team 
sly kestrel
Personally, I never even made a theory about it
unborn fog
Most of the lore dudes jus theorized that the spirits took too much of the crabs’s water and they got mad and started attacking
oh i never thought about the crabs needing water
wait there are pots?
sly kestrel
But I did notice a decent amount of mantas so I did believe that wasteland was a bit more lively back then. But we have seen krill MURDER a manta and with 6 confirmed krill in wasteland, we can only assume that as time passed by, these mantas were hunted one by one
unborn fog
murder? 
sly kestrel
yeah, first krill area we get a representation of the krills EvIlNeSs and it attacks a manta
unborn fog
i thought it was attacking the spirit s memory don t hurt the poor manta 
sly kestrel
It did a bit more than hurt it
unborn fog
oooo that s beautifully explained
sly kestrel
And I have another theory on krills, they don’t have a physical body
They are simply dark beings, and we have no proof that their body is physical and this explains why they can go through walls
And we can’t land on them nor touch them
Even if we get passed their windfall
desert sun
they can smack the crap* us bro
unborn fog
but the horn in shipwreck is still there
sly kestrel
We also have no proof that light creatures have a physical body either
We can’t touch them
It’s not confirmed that it’s a krill horn
unborn fog
that might just be the krill deviating or glitching though, it is an entity
well i ll go snep now like ginsy said
gn
sly kestrel
The only creatures that have a known physical body is the neutral creatures
The whale and the creatures at wasteland
desert sun
krill do have set paths that set them through walls
however it doesnt explain how krills are able to yeet us
desert sun
and that can knock the WL out of us?
sly kestrel
Their darkness takes our light and their wind aura is able to knock us down and YEET us
Overall, I’m rlly towards the theory that they don’t have a physical body
Darkness and wind in the form of a krill
I have my evidence, and I have my reasons
desert sun
are crabs the same then
sly kestrel
No crabs have a physical body
They can’t go through walls and their feet touch the ground when they walk
We can also.....grab them
hushed steeple
is that greasy stuff from the krills darkness or something else?
sly kestrel
u can also call it
DANDRUFF
But yea ig u could say it’s like dropping darkness
We also have it when we are dying in eden
This also led me to believe
Krills and crabs are slowly dying
hushed steeple
ohh that's interesting
sly kestrel
That could be a possibility
Maybe the krill’s “hunger” is the light and it needs it to survive
Jus like how light can save us when we are dying and dropping darkness flakes
“hOwCoMe we CanT Jus UsE oUr CanDle” well that’s like using a band aid to fix a car crash
U seen how big the krill is and how small the manta was when it was devoured
I doubt it would make much help for the krill
Hmmm good question
Well, when ash or reika decides to pop up again, maybe I’ll tell em about our lil krill discovery
torn silo
@hushed steeplep maybe because stars are just light without solid body
sly kestrel
This also sort of leads me to believe.....why werent they attracted to the light in orbit and the ascension
Another hole in my theory
hmmm, maybe the light creatures were gonna jump em if the krill attempted to ascend to orbit and that’s why they were forced to stay down and slowly die
Like......”HEY UR NOT WELCOME HERE U UNCLEAN KRILL”
I can imagine mantas goin like HEY A KRILL, LETS GET OUR REVENGEEE
kinda like how unclean ppl aren’t allowed to enter the holy land concept
Krills arent welcome bc of their unclean and dark body
I’m answering my own questions haha 😂
torn silo
Because orbit has a lot of light creature, its too dangerous to krill to just stay in there. Darkness will gone in the room that full of light
sly kestrel
Sort of like getting rid of a diseased person in a royal castle
“Go away before we manta bite you”
Yes this is new
Time to....write down my lil krill theory
Literally everything on the mural is the same color....
Everything on the mural is gold if u look closely
The clouds jus aren’t as bright
sly kestrel
Welcome back honey
GINSY*
I swear that was autocorrect
Look directly in the middle of the mural
spring blaze
LOL
spring blaze
sorta looks like they were falling
sly kestrel
Seems like a pollution anger problem
Like imagine being best friends with someone and then u decide to go drop a bomb in their house
I have to admit, u actually gave me motive for a new theory
Something I haven’t had in a LONG time
Thanks evy
quick geyser
Hi everyome
sly kestrel
Hey lune
drowsy spoke
sly kestrel
Not darkstone
But that
Is a diamond press
Power diamonds were the source of tech in the sky kingdom
It was also their cause of their downfall but anyways
That machine is a factory that creates power diamonds
long turtle
Henlo @hushed steeple i saw your post yeterday abt the boat parking lot in eden.. may i know which way i take to that place?
sly kestrel
It’s not a boat parking lot
sweet dirge
Boat parking lot 
sly kestrel
But when u first enter eden, jus follow the normal path but go to the right and u will see a separate path leading to a place with pillars and a boat
There’s not much over there
I think it’s something that will be in use for later updates tho
long turtle
Oohh before the flying rocks?
long turtle
You mean the water wont hurt like in wasteland?
sweet dirge
Is this krill entrance building in Eden?
long turtle
Okay imma check it out hehe.. thank yoj
elfin vessel
It was from beta quest
ember zodiac
Why does the isle elder have a face of stone
It's a leftover quest from beta.
@hushed steeple they should give the quest in live too
pearl void
Why does the isle elder have a face of stone
@ember zodiac because he's old and about to die and aging and.. oh is that mean elder eventually become stone when they got old
ember zodiac
@ember zodiac because he's old and about to die and aging and.. oh is that mean elder eventually become stone when they got old
@pearl void I think the Elders are immortal
pearl void
Well the cry emote cry for her dead comrades, the pray emote definitely praying for his dead friends on their tombstone at vault
Oh and the fainted spirit, i think he drop dead at wasteland
celest spoke
Inside the krilll building, it’s relatively easy to fall out/under the building into an oily oob if you try to walk into the dark areas to the north (? same general direction as the ark dock) of the original entrance (assuming Eden is west)
There are also some interesting hollows in the rock formation under the ark krill— there’s one in particular that looks like a cave entrance but pushes you away with wing walls
pearl void
I went to that one krill building oob, glitch through the wall, but can't go very far, teleported back everytime
torn silo
I thought it was wasteland elder temple, but it has different design. What is it?
vague plover
Hmm I think people have speculated that there was alot of different buildings and such in the wasteland (though we cant get to them atm.) Since it was pretty industrial
sly kestrel
Thas what I said toooo
Cuz the top looked totally different
But who knows it’s prolly jus an old design maybe bc it’s meant to represent the far view of the wasteland temple
zinc arrow
yeah i was gonna put an image of another building to the left of the broken temple and ask what that is bc none of my friends know
so its just random buildings good 2 know
sly kestrel
We dunno for sure
night heart
unreal wind
They’re there
left plinth
ok but has anyone talked about how you hear a heartbeat when holding hands with friends yet or
dkfjfjh i put my headphones in while playing today while a friend ubered me and i??
its just,, there
and while it sounded comforting during praire to valley, when it came to wastelands it was absolutely terrifying www
sly kestrel
Yea it’s cute right
left plinth
ye actually!
frozen pivot
Is there a theory on wat sky kid's body are made of?
heady sinew
Tried to catch up on all of the stuff said after I went to sleep and saw Crying Spirit was brought up again 
Yesterday while doing the spirit quest I noticed the spirit you burn to trigger the story is bald (aka Crying's friend). Bald spirit dies (or gets sick, or has any other life threatening condition) and then the POV is passed down to crying (the last two parts of the sequence, her looking at the little grave-stone thingies alone on the floor, and then the last part where they are balled up crying)
Also TGC said they used marble flutes for Skykid sounds if I remember correctly???
So maybe skykid's are a bit marble-y
frozen pivot
Also, sky kid's main body remains the same with or without light, only difference is they need heat or light for the clothes to materialize
left plinth
i want to believe that a sky kid's core is basically a flame, lioe when we see them during the cutscenes with the elders and how i notcied the Everytime we pull out our candle it's from our 'heart', perhaps out cosmetics are just a sort of projection?? or something similar to half projection, half physical material
(take that with a grain of salf i havent been playing dor too long sjshhsj)
sly kestrel
It’s the source of our life
There’s actually a little bit of skykid explanation in the pins
left plinth
oh bet jdsghd
ember zodiac
Light is the food
sly kestrel
No
lethal stump
Cronch on the wax
Tasty wax
sly kestrel
🤢
smoky estuary
Speaking of what sky kids are, I saw a post on reddit of someone who said that maybe were made out of clay and the flames keep us together. That’s why the rain and water in forest and wasteland (etc) hurt us! It’s almost like the water is making the clay soggy or something
spring blaze
i think we’re made of baked clay too
unborn fog
But clay doesn’t get soggy, it’s just porous
And the water doesn’t hurt us in valley or prairie
next hollow
well if the clays hardens yes, but if its still not baked it may get sticky
/ melt
so it really depends
smoky estuary
Yeah if the clay isn’t put in a kiln it will still get messed up in water also I think there’s something to do with maybe a stronger heat keeping us safe in the general air or maybe a stronger magic (it is a magical game after all)
desert sun
i like the theory that skykids are a hybridization of light and darkness
tiny cargo
why does wasteland have so many pipes and stuff?
mortal galleon
Yes, why
tiny cargo
sorry i sorta stole your question 
spring blaze
probably due to production and stuff
like how industrial factories irl spill waste through pipes-
it contributed to the pollution in wasteland
sly kestrel
It’s basically a place of industry
unborn fog
yeah you can see the sludge in shipwreck too, it s near the bursted pipes
sly kestrel
Not jus in shipwreck
These tar like pipes are everywhere in wasteland and they even have sludgy sound effects
unborn fog
i ve only seen the ends of the pipes in shipwreck though, with the other end at the temple
spring blaze
theres open pipes in the first area of wasteland too
spring blaze
i call it oil water
unborn fog
i thought they were deflated trashbags
spring blaze
its definitely waste of somesort
sly kestrel
I get that the sky kingdom is incredibly old and years and years past after the extinction but....
Man, the whole realm has polluted water and the water is so vast and before there were mantas and butterflies
Jus imagine what could’ve caused all of this
unborn fog
We’ve seen this happen irl with industrialization so I stand by the tar theory
hollow spruce
i just thought of something 
at the end temple in forest to the right where the big plant is, if you use table glitch theres a room behind that door.... any theories? me and friends were wondering
unborn fog
That’s from an old light quest I think
hollow spruce
ah
sly kestrel
Yea, old light quest
hollow spruce
sorry what's that
sly kestrel
If u meditate at the right spot u can actually activate the quest
It’s where these lights are scattered and ur job is to collect them all and once u do it, u get a reward for it
A lot of these extra quests were removed bc it was random and didn’t much relate to the lore
hollow spruce
oh 
I mean,, what was the light quest for? sorry for having so many questions
sly kestrel
It was jus....a quest to get candles
desert sun
i spotted a second light at birds nest the other day
i assumed it was an error with the sun, but the sun never has that kind of lens flare
unborn fog
looks like a rendering error
since the lens flare is a 2d image baked onto the camera
spring laurel
What’s with the (dead?) bird at valley citadel entrance...?
desert sun
leftovers from the beta game
unborn fog
it s from an old spirit from beta so we don t have much info
spring laurel
What was the spirit?
spring laurel
Disturbing tho huh?
desert sun
makes me curious as to why theyd leave it in game
summer patrol
makes for a nice decoration lol
spring laurel
Too much work to redo that spot maybe?
desert sun
its one tiny spot, i doubt itd be much work
sly kestrel
It wasn’t a spirit
It was quest very related to the manta call
U would fly around the citadel collecting lights and when u completed it, u would get a candle
unborn fog
oh yeah that s what I meant
sly kestrel
And yes I am quite curious why they leave so many beta memories in game
Like the golden pot
Dead bird, eden gate, moss tech, forest door, etc
spring laurel
@sly kestrel care to elaborate on the other ‘remnants’?
sly kestrel
If ur rlly interested
Go on YouTube and search up sky Light awaits
U will see most of the beta memories I’ve seen and how everything changed
summer patrol
i remember someone saying here that they found a krill horn in the ark but I looked and i can’t find it :/ is there actually one there?
sly kestrel
Nope
There’s a zigzag thingy
But it’s not krill horn
Even if u heard someone say it’s a krill horn, it’s jus a theory that the person has
Theres no confirmation on that being a krill horn and......honestly idk how u can even see it. Looks nothing like a krill horn
vocal lantern
I think i found a krill leg at shipwreck but i didnt get pics of it
zinc arrow
it might be the "krill horn" y'all r talking about
ive never seen it tho 👁️ but i am curious
why would a krill horn exist and who would create such a thing
lethal stump
Have the devs confirmed what age(s) skykids are ? Or at least, the ages they’re modeled after ?
sly kestrel
Ehhh
Wouldn’t make sense
All skykids are technically different ages since it’s so diverse
If u wanna think about age ig it’s jus the time when u started playing sky
lethal stump
Huh, ok
I was just checking because ||I saw...an unsavoury drawing of two skykids and didn’t know whether to be concerned||
sly kestrel
Huh
sweet dirge
clever burrow
Maybe you could consider it however many times || you finish through Eden||?
desert sun
kids r kids
sly kestrel
Each skykid was sent and born to go on their mission the day they downloaded and started the game
So....I guess u could say I’m almost 2 years old
lethal stump
Brick is only a few months old...he baby
desert sun
4 months
lethal stump
If I’m going by how many times I’ve done Eden I’m 4 edens old
sly kestrel
I lost count how many eden runs I’ve done
How about u guys calculate
I ascended all spirits and traveler spirits and currently have 132 ascended candles
desert sun
youd probably be of drinking age by now
lethal stump
Jay is our parent
Wait @sly kestrel what are your pronouns and gender, if you’re ok sharing that ?
sly kestrel
I’m....a guy
lethal stump
papa :0
lethal stump
pulsar gyro
D a d
eternal valley
hdhshshdv 
back to lore 
lethal stump
Aw, oki :<
I was doing think
What if the prince is a proto-skykid ?
Not the same as us, but similar......he was like a beta skykid...and then when that went wrong the stars were like ‘oOP uh lets fix that’ and now we exist
hollow dirge
kinda want to know what’s the next traveling spirit 👉👈
sly kestrel
We don’t have that info yet
It’s too early to tell, but previews will be announced in #news
desert sun
Not the same as us, but similar......he was like a beta skykid...and then when that went wrong the stars were like ‘oOP uh lets fix that’ and now we exist
@lethal stump thats what the concepts seem to suggest kinda, the prince was somewhat similar to us
in what way we dont know
sly kestrel
He was also alive longggg before skykids existed
eternal valley
Usually on the Tuesday or Wednesday right before the traveling spirit arrives
(wait i got sidetracked. lore.)
zinc arrow
i was thinking the eden elder/king reincarnated themselves to be a skykid hence the constellation we have but that sounds very far fetched
and also wrong. we're probably just descendent or something if we're related
sly kestrel
I still have yet to see if the whole king/prince/megabird concept even exists in current game
zinc arrow
apparently the megabird was in orbit but i dont remember it and i only heard that it was there
lethal stump
tbh I kinda have a Flowey-esque headcanon for the Prince
yada yada storm red diamond Eden
He dies
But he’s reborn. Megabirb has given him another chance. He starts on Isle, and it’s almost the same as it was when he died, except everyone is gone and in their place are spirits
When he died he didn’t lose winged light (that or is power came from something different) so he can fly around like he could before
He goes through the realms the way we do except he’s all alone, facing the immediate aftermath of the storm and the darkness
And he reaches Eden, goes through (it was easier back then...) and thinks he’s saved the kingdom, hurrah ! Except...when he goes into orbit, and through the gate...he’s right back where he started in Isle. He hasn’t repented yet, not in Megabird’s eyes.
Repeat the cycle, for years. Going through and relieving everything, watching as his once glorious kingdom falls apart
And the last time he goes through Eden, he doesn’t go through the gate. He sits there, tries making conversation with the spirits, even if they can’t talk. He sits, and he waits, and he waits, and he waits, running around and purposely damaging himself. He grows old in orbit, not like the king we know but into a taller, gangly adult who’s cape barely reaches his hips. And eventually, he dies there. For real, this time. He doesn’t reincarnate, he doesn’t come back. But his essence stays, to encourage and empower the next generation. The imprints of the child of light.
This is mostly the storyteller in me making up something emotional
Not the theorist making something with proof
desert sun
thats a really cool story though!!!
lethal stump
If I had the motivation I’d draw it
And some day I’m gonna take all of my headcanons and compile them
I already have the semblance of a story
What proof for it ? Like. Nothing. But it seems cool so I like it 😎
zinc arrow
:*0 thts cool!
lethal stump
Thank
If I do ever make and publicize the story, I just wanna let y’all know that you have been an inspiration and have given me cooler ideas than I had, based on the canon
outer lark
Hi guys, do I see it right, that the big red crystal in eden, I assume it's the eye of eden, is big darkstone, such as these darkstones in almost evey door?
Dakstones power things up, if I got it right, fueled by light (from lit candles or creatures like butterflys).
If we assume the eye of eden is a darkstone, what does it power up?
At doors we see a beam go up when we light the darkstone. The beam touches another stone, with starshine painting around it and the the mechanism starts working.
Back to the eye. We have mio. of lightcreatures pumped through pipes to power it up. We see it active, sending a bright beam into the air. But where does it go? Does it go into orbit? But what does orbit or its citizens need it for?
Is or was there a sevenths Spirit, representing Eden? Conceptart suggest a King. Is he what we see above forrest temple entrance? He didn't seem to fall with the stars, but manifests in the clouds and is involved in building the cloud realm anyway. Does he implement the eye of eden to send power into the orbit? But for what?
And where is the off switch?
I wonder more and more, from week to week. One question remains between all this theorys. Am I right to say eye of eden is a darkstone out of control?
cold steppe
there's theories that say that, yes
you can search "power diamond" in this channel and bring up the theories
outer lark
I see, thx
sly kestrel
Darkstone is an older concept but
It’s similar to power diamonds
In the old concepts, darkstone was something found in the forest realm
outer lark
The more I look at these pics, the more I start to think, its the king who somehow needs/uses/desires all the energy and his gread messed eveything up . If those concept arts are still somewhat canon at all 🤔
cold steppe
concept arts are technically not canon (they're what the game was once headed toward)
outer lark
Hope they used some of the king designs and we will learn more about him sometime. Would be lackluster if the statues don't mean anything in that direction, after all that teasing.
sly kestrel
And the head on the forest temple
It’s actually the old mask used for the veryyyy very old model of the forest elder
Back when she was furry and had an umbrella
outer lark
Ohhhh
sly kestrel
But I like ur observation on things
outer lark
Interessting 🤔
sly kestrel
Yea if u dig deep in the concepts u will actually find it
outer lark
Hope these things get tied together somehow and don't end as leftover deadends.
sly kestrel
Same applies to the praire elder, his old concept mask is still on the temple
outer lark
Never recognized
sly kestrel
Also there is no single concept of the king
There are tons
He came in many different forms in the concepts
7 years of development for this game
sly kestrel
And the forest temple door, it’s actually showing how a power diamond is made
Pots made from Praire shipped to forest and put in the diamond press mixed in with organic material to make a power diamond
This was their form of technology
I have a full explanation if u want
supple tapir
Woah. And I thought this was happy little “find the light” game. Stuff’s deep.
cold steppe
one concept had the king as the ally and a prince as the final boss
outer lark
Oh ja it is. I realy wish, we learn more about what happened in this game. A big story season would be welcomed, with lots of cutscenes 😅
Prince? Dang
zinc arrow
its intentionally vague for theories i suppose
but yeah i'd appreciate tht
cold steppe
it was a really cool concept that would have murdered mobile devices
zinc arrow
but will it murder a switch is the question
heady sinew
Back when she was furry and had an umbrella
@sly kestrel wHaT did I just read
heady sinew
Ooooooh
pulsar gyro
Oh sweet
sly kestrel
Vibratoooo I thought u knew thisss
heady sinew
my memory tends to be pretty bad. I knew Forest Elder used to have an umbrella but I'm pretty sure I just found out Furry version was a thing.
sly kestrel
Furry was the umbrellaaa
pearl void
The game change so much from the earlier version, it's kinda deviated from whatever original idea or concept or whatever canon, don't stretch so much guys. if it's lore, then every ideas are acceptable
Wish the current season to end, it's taking too long, need new season
😊
sweet dirge
👁️ 👄 👁️
sweet dirge
Atleast pants
sly kestrel
1-2 week break
sweet dirge
It was only 2 weeks?
sly kestrel
It depends
Tgc has to work on a lot before releasing a season to live
But anyways, we should lore talk
broken basin
There are many theories which suggest that Eden was a nice realm like all others, right?
Can this be the constellation of eden?
I know you guys must have already discussed about it..
broken basin
It's even on the main platform where we spawn..
sly kestrel
Otherwise ppl would get confused and be like
“What spirits am I supposed to get to unlock this door “
Yea it’s on constellation rock too
Overall it’s jus a wind and I doubt it’s the constellation
The crown constellation seems more fitting don’t u think
broken basin
Then why are there 🌟 thingies
sly kestrel
After all.....it was sorta confirmed in the vault cutscene 😂
broken basin
The crown constellation seems more fitting don’t u think
@sly kestrel
Yea.....
sly kestrel
And like I said earlier, it’s trying to say that u need at least 20 stars to enter
broken basin
And i have one more question.....
In the vault cutscene, we see the king eating an apple (or a mango or orange or whatever it is lol) .
What does that mean?
sly kestrel
We don’t have anything confirmed on it being a fruit but TheOreTIcaLly it’s representing the first sin. Kinda like how eve ate the apple and everything was be light to ruin after
This time, it’s the king eating the apple and this is representing the downfall of the civilization
But we got nothing confirmed yet, jus one of our theories
broken basin
But give me a reason to why there is a neeed to put that wingy thingy on the rock??
sly kestrel
Every mural doesn’t have a clear picture
It’s supposed to be symbolic and something with a deeper meaning
And idk why but
Not much important in my opinion
lethal stump
L, we dont have all the answers, everything here is speculation my guy, we’re just as lost as you
sly kestrel
L having questions and being clueless
Doesn’t sound like L to me, I believe we have an imposter
broken basin
Did y'all discussed the Kingdoms representing stages of life theory( it not a theory anymore though)
broken basin
It’s not a theory
@sly kestrel
Thats what i said... Duh
broken basin
L is not sitting in his proper pose
sly kestrel
Ur message jus sent faster
sly kestrel
U shoulda done the one where’s he’s doing the lil smile
karmic lodge
wait wait tell me more about this stages of life thing
karmic lodge
yes bedtime stories
sly kestrel
Isle is birth, praire is childhood, forest is teen years, valley is adulthood, wasteland is mid life crisis, vault is old age and enlightenment and eden is death
broken basin
And orbit is rebirth
sly kestrel
So ur dying
barren bloom
Yes
karmic lodge
i think we're all feeling a little wastelandy these days
sly kestrel
Oh nooo
broken basin
I'm good now
barren bloom
😞
noble sandal
absolutely a mid life crisis
karmic lodge
what are more confirmed lore tidbits you can tell me about?
barren bloom
sly kestrel
The way they viewed it, adulthood supposed to be our prime years of age where we get competitive and life is amazing
broken basin
This theory is written on a poster in the office
The way they viewed it, adulthood supposed to be our prime years of age where we get competitive and life is amazing
@sly kestrel
They have delivered what we humans say, the "perfect life"
sly kestrel
Kinda like 20s and 30s when we first start drinking and going to college parties and getting jobs BUT ANYWAYS yea it’s on the office
barren bloom
And the forest temple door, it’s actually showing how a power diamond is made
@sly kestrel i forgot how it looks like since they removed the door...
sly kestrel
Well the office posters are mainly showing the old concept arts for the realms, on top is where they show the life stage
And no the door is still there
karmic lodge
i am also a wee moth with only the slightest glimpse of the office
broken basin
I know everyone knows on which poster it is but you can't stop me from sending the photo
sly kestrel
Servers are always completed tho and ppl like rushing ahead opening the door early so not many ppl get to see the temple door
sly kestrel
Ehhh not rlly the servers fault
Ohhhh I remember now
In the old old concepts, vault didn’t even exist yet
So the idea of old age in vault came later later
broken basin
Server rule: once you make a friend.....i will split and this way you will make more friends.
More, yes, even more.... Just keep making friends, i won't let you talk to them though.
noble sandal
server rule: trying to get to a friend on the other side of a map is impossible wo warp
broken basin
My worst nightmare
YOUR FRIEND IS IN A PLACE WHICH YOU CAN'T JOIN RIGHT NOW.
broken basin
Lore discussion is prolly the most flexible channel here....
noble sandal
speaking of lore
broken basin
We can talk about anythingg in sky
And sometimes even off topic.
And we don't have to ||spoiler tag||
noble sandal
anyone have any idea what blew this gigantic hole in the wall
karmic lodge
k. krill?
noble sandal
maybe 
broken basin
Maybe that power diamond making machine had a fault and exploded
karmic lodge
krill are so cute but so deadly 😩
broken basin
Thats why its fallen on the side
And whole temple is broken because of that
Everyone goes offine when I'm online.. 😔
Thats my vibe i guess lol
barren bloom
Maybe that power diamond making machine had a fault and exploded
@broken basin back there was a factory similar to forest temple
broken basin
Ooh youre here!
@broken basin back there was a factory similar to forest temple
@barren bloom
Not similar dude, "exactly similar"
barren bloom
Yeah
noble sandal
and the krill inside the wasteland factory part
barren bloom
With more pipes
noble sandal
literally comes out of the..polluted water LMAO
broken basin
That sometimes makes me think if the sky realms is the same place in different timelines...
But this theory isn't very stable..
barren bloom
big hmm noise
broken basin
Since they represent stages of life which are also just us in different timeline
barren bloom
On tom's concept the light creatures are the one who attacked the King
broken basin
I can't join "attack" with "light creatures"
They look too peaceful to do something like this
But ehh idk either actually
ember zodiac
Where does the River in the forest go
barren bloom
Temple?
broken basin
Its goes underground after the first area and then to the broken bridge area
ember zodiac
Oh
broken basin
There are no piper or places in the temple from which the river water can come.
barren bloom
Don't u think power diamond needs water to be made?
ember zodiac
Maybe it falls in the wasteland sea
broken basin
I m still wondering what was the purpose of the place which is to the ahead left in broken temple
Lol rip English
sly kestrel
Ok so I have a theory that sort of doubts that krill caused the destruction on the wall, and my theory revolves around the fact that krill don’t have a physical body
It was prolly a huge flesh creature like the whale
Or some of the creatures at the graveyard
barren bloom
The crab cave painting shows crab getting mad after the water is running out, idk if the water is used for drinking and irrigation or to make power diamonds
sly kestrel
....water isn’t used for power diamonds
broken basin
Maybe they are just darkness.... Since we see a krill coming out of the polluted water in broken temple
broken basin
Which is the broken temple?
@ember zodiac
The area after the landing area of wasteland
sly kestrel
Andddd, u can literally pass through them and nothing can make contact with it
broken basin
The area before graveyard?
@ember zodiac
Ya
sly kestrel
Oh yea that
ember zodiac
Where the manta gets killed?
broken basin
Yes the place where the manta gets killed is the broken temple
sly kestrel
Remember the quest “meditate at the broken temple”
This is where it’s located
What
No....
The place where the manta gets killed isn’t a temple
ember zodiac
The place where the manta gets killed isn’t a temple
@sly kestrel that looks more like a factory
sly kestrel
It is
ember zodiac
Got it.. the scared spirit right
sly kestrel
Yea that’s the broken temple
noble sandal
yeh
broken basin
What is the area where the manta gets killed called
broken basin
Well, broken temple sounds comforting enough
ember zodiac
Is the candles bug fixed? I see notifications someone liked my note
broken basin
Lol my whole sky life was a lie then
sly kestrel
Yea it got fixed
noble sandal
?really
broken basin
Oh finally
broken basin
When are we going to get the compensation?
ember zodiac
sly kestrel
....literally got fixed yesterday
noble sandal
i still can't see people's candles orz
broken basin
Will we even get a compensation. Imo,they should ateast give something for this suffering..
broken basin
Are the white candles sort of an activator of dark stone
sly kestrel
Keep in mind that concept timeline is an old scrapped idea
barren bloom
Yes
sly kestrel
Years ago
broken basin
Because wherever there are white candles, something happens
And .ost of them don't have wax
sly kestrel
White candles.....u mean the ones that activate the elder shrines
barren bloom
Poor catapult dude 😞
sly kestrel
Oh that too
broken basin
Maybe they are not even real candles...
barren bloom
Firing against hollow creature like krills
broken basin
White candles.....u mean the ones that activate the elder shrines
@sly kestrel
Not only elder shrines. They are used to activate many other things in the game.
sly kestrel
We dunno what they used it for exactly
noble sandal
?like unlocking friend stuff
sly kestrel
But I doubt they were able to fight the krill
noble sandal
we just use regular red candles for activiating things right
sly kestrel
And yea.....white candles are friendship/shop candles
We use OUR red candle to spread light but other red candles jus give us wax
barren bloom
Some candles give no lights today
broken basin
Red candles just give wax
sly kestrel
Sorry if I’m late but......where are u guys going with this
broken basin
And there is this one friggin red candle in forest... That does nothing..
sly kestrel
The one with the wood plank
broken basin
The one on the cave with planks
barren bloom
Vault candles too, near the canopy
sly kestrel
Maybe there will b an update where it gives wax
Wax or not, I doubt it helps with lore
broken basin
Maybe there will b an update where it gives wax
@sly kestrel
Maybe its bugged that's what i thought before
barren bloom
Bees? :O
sweet dirge
Dood
broken basin
They had to think of a way si that we can get our currency aka candles..
Remember that sky kids can only forge white canedles
noble sandal
RIP
broken basin
Lol jay
noble sandal
apart from white candles yeah
broken basin
Hmmm does money even exost in sky? What if the red candles are just for gameplay?
@hushed steeple
Thats what i meant.. duhh
noble sandal
physics especially
broken basin
Everything which has mechanics and doesn't follow the laws of science has dark stones or power diamonds in it..
sly kestrel
The existence of wax doesn’t necessarily mean the existence of bees
What we see in our real world will be different from the sky world
broken basin
Like every floaty thingy in vault has a diamond below it
noble sandal
tru tho
sly kestrel
Ever seen a 50 foot krill? NO
noble sandal
sad sky might not have bees
broken basin
The existence of wax doesn’t necessarily mean the existence of bees
What we see in our real world will be different from the sky world
@sly kestrel
Imaging skykids getting stung by bees
sly kestrel
oh gosh
broken basin
The sting of bee would break if it tried to bite on the face
barren bloom
Imagine sky h o n e y
sly kestrel
Skykids don’t have a natural body so I actually doubt bees will harm us then
broken basin
If this game was 200 gigabytes, i would have still downloaded it.
noble sandal
sky HONEY
broken basin
Skykids don’t have a natural body so I actually doubt bees will harm us then
@sly kestrel
I think they are made by someone/something
That's what you guys call the megabird
noble sandal
nintendo take notes
sweet dirge
What, bees?
barren bloom
The idea that we're all a part of something called megabirds gives me chills
broken basin
Are the Spirits dead humans..
I don't think so tho
sly kestrel
I think u looked at it the wrong way
The megabird is an old concept of a high entity of light and life
It is also what sent the skykids and brings life and rebirth. Creatures and skykids migrate to this megabird to get reborn
Further details come from different concepts
barren bloom
So we're not a part of it? It justs do the life cycle?
broken basin
Maybe the sky kids don't know who made them like us humans ( we do know that humans developed from a single cell when the earth was new.. but still many religions say that everything is created by an entity which we call god)
So maybe sky kids don't know who made them so they started thinking about their creator and then just thought its a god amd named it megabird...
broken basin
Who made megabird then
sweet dirge
Megabird is birb
sly kestrel
That’s like saying who created god
Think of the megabird as a god
Not much of a physical form but an entity of light
broken basin
And god isn't real ( we don't have any proof that there were gods irl)
sweet dirge
broken basin
But i still don't believe that the megabird is a creature or something.????
broken basin
We don't actually know who is really is... Do we??
Like I'm not saying it has to be a creature.
It can be a form of light
barren bloom
If it's a being (not a creature bcs it's.. 'god') i like it even better
broken basin
Or maybe it's just imaginary
sweet dirge
barren bloom
Entity... Maybe that's the word I'm looking for
sly kestrel
Megabird is a concept
If megabird is a concept then we should look at the facts stated in the concepts, and in the concepts
It’s not something skykids made up
broken basin
Fact:- i like to annoy people.
broken basin
But i do annoy people on this chat so y'all are good
Or maybe you aren't.
sly kestrel
We aren’t
broken basin
That's what i want
ember zodiac
Or maybe it's just imaginary
@broken basin Megabird exists..
But I think it can manifest itself in any form.. All light in Sky is the Megabird..
We're shown a phoenix like creature... Maybe to signify rebirth?
sly kestrel
Well
That actually
Supposed to be the megabird
But I don’t like talking about the megabird much since it’s mainly a concept that isn’t confirmed
brazen solstice
i want it lol
lethal stump
Sky should have been a horror game 😤
sweet dirge
Oh gawd
sly kestrel
There’s a lot of complaints about sky being too difficult and how ppl are terrified of krill and never been to eden
So...I doubt they will add more dark creatures sadly
sweet dirge
😔
acoustic inlet
Krill is terrifying... I always get nervous when they crash me hahah
sly kestrel
I’m actually rlly confused
Sky being too difficult and scary for kids......How did anyone come to that conclusion
But I’m not here to judge
broken basin
I need a bit more challenging tasks and more dark creatures
acoustic inlet
i don't think is difficult... but the background story is complex
lethal stump
I wish there was like, a 14+ version of the game that was more horror and story-oriented
broken basin
I wish they at least added the turret
sly kestrel
Jus a reminder we should stay on topic
vocal lantern
wait omg there were gonna be horseshoe crabs :0
also im gonna be honest i thought the piling crabs was a sentient mass of skulls 
lethal stump
S T A C C K R E A B
acoustic inlet
this could be funny
naive hamlet
0w0
serene slate
I just know that there a hidden ****** zzzzz in the fridge in the office 😂
cedar vine
sly kestrel
Might have to ask #looking-for-group-live
sly kestrel
U should prolly get better screenshots of the shipwrecks thingies if u want ppl to kno what ur talking about
But I get what ur saying
They don’t
sand edge
Maybe part of it. Looks like one from one of its bodies tbh
sweet dirge
It could've been the tip of the horn
sand edge
Yano the spikes
sly kestrel
Doesn’t look anything like it
broken basin
Then what is it??
sly kestrel
Idk man
pearl void
Maybe part of it. Looks like one from one of its bodies tbh
@sand edge it's leg perhaps 🤭
Krill karate chop
low seal
the horns in the ship are confirmed to be from a mega krill horn
megakrill = bigger than normie krill
its like chad krill
bronze lion
Oh f
Never heard of megakrill before
But if it's really exist then my theory is the skeletons in the graveyard
Maybe that's a Megakrill skeleton looks like
Or is it something else
cobalt palm
Could be a part of whatever the bones in graveyard are
bronze lion
Ooh the lore master
Please wake up from your deep sleep
And let us discuss another lore
Idk man
I never heard of megakrill before
I don't know
But if it's really real i bet on the skeletons at the graveyard
celest spoke
Got more pix of the krill horn (???) in the ark
sly kestrel
the horns in the ship are confirmed to be from a mega krill horn
@low seal never was confirmed
And that.....is not a krill horn either
celest spoke
What is it tho
No matching jagged shapes in main body of ship, tho some similar in farm reservoir
Oh— also the lil cave under the other end of the ark has a squared window-type outline away from the main body?
Yah inner cabins/compartments, cargo hold etc
Haha they float
hasty blaze
Has it ever been discussed here that the ancestors are people from the stars and have magical powers? Then they moved to earth, building floating temples and storing knowledges about earth
Also shrines to pray and star people rituals
bronze lion
Is there really a Megakrill?
pearl void
Has it ever been discussed here that the ancestors are people from the stars and have magical powers? Then they moved to earth, building floating temples and storing knowledges about earth
@hasty blaze well at the first cut scene, the one you see when you first play the game, shows that the ancestors are from the stars, but darkness came and they fell down to the clouds and form temples
Is there really a Megakrill?
@bronze lion maybe the one that the wasteland daddy faught at the cut scene? Hehe
hasty blaze
The cutscenes are not really.... explain-y
bronze lion
I agree
hasty blaze
I feel like there are deeper stories like how they landed in isle of dawn, having praying temples at prairie or living around big fishies at forest
or what do they actually do at forest
pearl void
Watch it agian, with the knowledge you have now after experience the game, you'll notice something you didn't before
😉
chrome agate
;-;-;-;-;-;
hasty blaze
The ark cutscenes are very beautiful and have a nice storyline to it
sly kestrel
Each elder cutscene shows us giving the elders our flame, and we do this bc our mission was to bring the elders home and we do this by reconnecting them with the light
But, each elder cutscene is also very symbolic and not meant to be one clear picture of lore
Is there really a Megakrill?
@bronze lion no
pearl void
This is the link from the pin for the first cut scene if you want to rewatch it again
The ark cutscenes are very beautiful and have a nice storyline to it
@hasty blaze i like it too, i want a more dramatic and sad storyline next 😋
pearl void
Someone point it out using ancestor as in general to avoid confusion, and for me i agree with that, so I start adopting the word too
sly kestrel
I jus say elders and spirits so ppl won’t get confused
sly kestrel
@low seal That’s not canon
That’s Hage’s speculation on things
Personally I don’t much care if u wanna theorize about it being a megakrill but all I’m saying is that it’s not confirmed
frosty helm
I'm new to the lore of this game. Is there anything I should know right off the bat
cold steppe
skykids are not the same species as spirits, which are not the same species as elders
frosty helm
Fun
sly kestrel
Each realm represents a stage of life
There’s an entity called the “child of light” and we have a relationship with this person
The winged light kids are imprints from the child of light
Uhhhhh
Ok confirmed stuff is found in the pinned messages, like notes from live-streams and dev talks etc
sly ruin
I’m always wondering about the light drawings on the walls of caves, but this etching on the Ark got be bein like 🤔
What do those symbols mean? I can see wind, fire, water,,, but I can’t pick out the rest
frosty helm
One of them looks like the symbol on the cape
sly ruin
Maybe that symbol represents light?
frosty helm
So does one maybe represent darkness?
short spruce
Earth
Air
Water
Darkness
Light
Fire
frosty helm
Long ago, the six elements lived in harmony, but then everything changed when the Darkness nation attacked
short spruce
XD
frosty helm
Only a master of all six elements could restore peace to the land...
short spruce
That master
sly ruin
Sky children aren’t the same as the spirits, right? Or are they the ancestors of the sky children?
short spruce
Wasn’t us because have you seen the way people deal with krill?
frosty helm
They FLEE
short spruce
Spirits are our ancestors
frosty helm
Also Sky Children and spirits are diffrent
sly ruin
Aaaah I see
Idk man the more I look at the broken boats, pots, and old sketches, the more I think that we’re flying around an ancient & destroyed civilization
short spruce
Probably are
sly ruin
I’m new to the game ;-;
frosty helm
Ah
sly ruin
ye
frosty helm
What I wanna know is what Spirit Gates are, who made them, and why
sly ruin
I wanna know how the spirit ancestors civilization got from where it was to where it is now. Like bruh they were thrivin. Also, what is ||Eden|| running off of? Random dark entities??
frosty helm
I think Eden is ||the reason why the ancestors died||
sly ruin
I think Eden is ||the reason why the ancestors died||
@frosty helm Oh for sure, I think the same thing.
I’m always taking pics of the wall drawings to see if the creators left any clues
frosty helm
It ||brought over the krill, which, as we know well, can't be fought very easily. There's a single catepult in the wastelands as well as lots of barracks and stuff, but those obviously didn't work||
@sly ruin might I suggest we move to #eden-spoilers? Speaking in spoiler tags is boring
sly ruin
Sure!
frosty helm
Or are we allowed to talk about Eden in here?
night sleet
You don’t need spoilers here
sly ruin
Oh sick
frosty helm
Ah!
night sleet
It say lore discussion spoilers
frosty helm
||No more of this then!||
frosty helm
Awesome
night sleet
Well that’s great
frosty helm
Allow me to spell out my entire theory:
A number of spirits exploring the world eventually reached the golden wasteland. Back then, though, it wasn't a wasteland. They eventually sailed for the light in the distance: Eden. We even get a cutscene of something like this from an ancestor spirit in the ark (not the seasonal one). Everybody there died, though, as we can see with the Fallen that we have to restore. The Darkness then pushed out, with krill, crabs, and the weird venus-fly-trap things. They completely overran the barracks in the Wasteland, but the krill didn't bother to go any farther. The Dark Crabs made their way all the way to the forests, and the Darkness grew out all the way to the Prairie.
night sleet
Are there any crabs in Eden?
frosty helm
And mud
night sleet
But just the maze
frosty helm
IDK, it's a bit of an outlier
zinc arrow
crabs like places with water
night sleet
Hmm
frosty helm
And Eden's a little short on all that
night sleet
So Eden has some bad water, but not much
frosty helm
Maybe crabs are born in Eden but migrate to Wasteland as part of their life cycle
Like fish
And frogs
sly kestrel
Quick lil reminder that there’s no need to spoiler tag
night sleet
Well they’d probably hide
night sleet
I want to see baby crab
frosty helm
I will try
sly ruin
Perhaps the crabs need clean water to spawn, but because of their dark nature they tend to ‘corrupt’ water? Which is why the more crabs there are, the thicker & darker the water