#lore-discussion-spoilers

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desert sun
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are we on crab talk again?

plush moon
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They remind me of walking mines like in video games

sonic urchin
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Yeaaaah

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I can see that

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And they kill you

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So it makes sense

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They almost seem turtle like sometimes. At least the shape of them

plush moon
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They look like rocks that I can kick over

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And then they pop up and tackle me

sonic urchin
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What if real rocks did that?

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FrEaKy

wide root
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Had anybody tried to throw some of them over a cliff?

plush moon
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What cliff

sonic urchin
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No.. I want to do that now

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What about in clouds?

plush moon
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I've put them over the fire

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Tbh idk about crab lore .-.

sonic urchin
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That’s always fun

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Why is crab lore of all things so hard?

plush moon
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Cuz it's like nothing there

sonic urchin
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Touché

wide root
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My question:

plush moon
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We have a mural and the crabs that's it and there's this vague thing from the dev bout it's walk cycle

wide root
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Why is it crab instead of krab?

plush moon
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Why is it whale not wale

sonic urchin
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Because k is an irrelevant letter. And they already have Krill

wide root
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Krabs and krills

sonic urchin
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That does have a nice ring to it

wide root
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Kwhales would be better

sly kestrel
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Technically krills isn’t a word
Plural is krill

sonic urchin
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Ooh. Bringing down the grammar

wide root
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(Krilled isn’t a word either)

sonic urchin
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don’t say that

wide root
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I didn’t said it...

plush moon
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:I wikitionary says both is valid .. dictionary.com says only krill is valid

sly kestrel
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If u rlly want ur dreams crushed

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Beaned isn’t a word either

sonic urchin
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I. I. You got me there stickerGloomy

plush moon
sly kestrel
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There’s also sneep and other words but anyways

plush moon
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Does anyone have a theory on these statues

sly kestrel
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Back to topic....

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And no

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But

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They look really reallyyy really similar to the old concept of the vault elder

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And who knows
It could still represent the vault elder even today

sonic urchin
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Interesting. I always saw it as a mother figure for some reason. Idk why

plush moon
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They are very prominent in eden :I so I'm wondering if that's like a symbol of it

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Like a symbol of megabird

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Literally giving light bc Eden is where that beam of light is

sly kestrel
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Coincidence coincidence the vault elder is nicknamed and interpreted as a mother figure

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It also reminds me of the vault cutscene of how the elder was in her knees giving you the diamond

plush moon
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And then that diamond just flies away

sly kestrel
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Jus like how she offers the hearts, candles, fire source etc

plush moon
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So what do u think of this connection

sly kestrel
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Only thing that’s missing is the head plate

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Well she squints like the vault elder as well

sonic urchin
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That’s true. I wonder if the vault people went and built those everywhere to protect themselves. Or maybe as a means of transportation like we use it for

sly kestrel
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So my theory is that it’s the symbol of the vault elder giving something

plush moon
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Maybe the vault ppl built home

sly kestrel
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Or offering

plush moon
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I think it's megabird there are many of them leading up to eden

sly kestrel
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Megabird is the vault elder now
K...

plush moon
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Such a cluster may imply the significance of the place

sonic urchin
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Also makes sense

plush moon
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Its like personification

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We see it mythology we like bestowing human attributes to inhuman things

sonic urchin
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Megabird is vault elder confirmed

wide root
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The circle might represent a face

plush moon
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Lmao

sly kestrel
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might?

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It is a face

sonic urchin
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It’s a face

plush moon
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Or it's a mask

sonic urchin
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Still. Face

plush moon
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Lol the face is bulging out

sly kestrel
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Desktop with an a

wide root
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Yessssssssssssss

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Just for disturbing

sonic urchin
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It’s nice. Classy

plush moon
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Autocorrect doesn't believe u exist

wide root
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Indeed

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I do not exist

sonic urchin
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I am merely a being of the void

plush moon
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LMAO

undone steppe
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OBJECTION

plush moon
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Nah I like wheres this going XD

undone steppe
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I'd like to pose the Idea of Knowledge is next to Godliness

plush moon
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Wut

wide root
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Whaaaaaaaat??

sonic urchin
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Ok. And that applies to this conversation how?

plush moon
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Lore terms?

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Where?

sly kestrel
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Bean u were off topic earlier so....

undone steppe
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I mean think about what would happen if you were to devote an entire vault and citadel to gather the knowledge of the realm.

sonic urchin
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Yeah ik. I need to get better at that

undone steppe
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You'd get pretty darn close to the truth right?????

plush moon
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Ye it makes sense why all the elders gather at vault cuz they are all history

wide root
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What are we talking about?

sly kestrel
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Read

wide root
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I’m really lost

sly kestrel
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Read more

wide root
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Into space

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Well, i read

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I’m still confused

plush moon
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I think valley is more about invention and vault is more with collection?

sly kestrel
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Hmmm I could’ve sworn ur name was highly hierophant

plush moon
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What if they r like rivals :0

sly kestrel
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And I think I know what she is taking about

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The citadel

plush moon
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It was she changed it

sly kestrel
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Isn’t rlly a citadel at all

plush moon
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Whatver citadel sounds coool

sly kestrel
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Well

undone steppe
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What if Elders are like demigods for the mother bird. If we interpret skykids as a natural cleansing force ( in order to renew a broken and dead world ) we can assume that the elders would know about the children's coming

plush moon
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Whispers: cuz they messed up big time

sly kestrel
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It’s main purpose is the armillary spheres, and those spheres were used by the scholars to study the sky
In other words, vault people

plush moon
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Remember how vault shows stars what if they are like actually maps :/

sly kestrel
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Heh

plush moon
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What if Elders are like demigods for the mother bird. If we interpret skykids as a natural cleansing force ( in order to renew a broken and dead world ) we can assume that the elders would know about the children's coming
@undone steppe I agree with those comparisons

sly kestrel
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They are more.....symbolic murals then maps

sonic urchin
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Yeaaah. So the citadel is an information gathering place. Maybe they study orbit and megabird there

undone steppe
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Yes. Exactly. Vally and Vault are the closest to wasteland we'll get, so we can assume that wasteland used to value science

sly kestrel
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Hm idk about that tho

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But the citadel was used by the scholars

plush moon
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Imo its more about innovation

wide root
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In-beetwen doesn’t means that it is similar

sly kestrel
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Wasteland is something totally different

sonic urchin
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But if would be influenced by its neighbors in some way

plush moon
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They are more.....symbolic murals then maps
@sly kestrel ye but they can visualize stars

wide root
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Industrial war zone

sly kestrel
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Industry, a fortress, a creature habitat etc

plush moon
wide root
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That’s not the wasteland...

plush moon
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I was oob and took a screenshot of these many floating diamonds

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Wait wrong pic

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Uuhhhh

undone steppe
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The wasteland is now a wasteland. It used to be the Shores of Manna

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Perhaps we can assume that Manna is the continent?

sly kestrel
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Confidence...

plush moon
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Here

sly kestrel
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Where’d u get this idea? Did u find something?

wide root
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Where does that name comes from?!?

plush moon
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The wasteland is now a wasteland. It used to be the Shores of Manna
@undone steppe where did u get manna?

sly kestrel
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Exactly what I’m asking

undone steppe
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I've seen it somewhere, I'm sure

wide root
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.....

sly kestrel
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“Somewhere”

drifting copper
plush moon
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:D??

undone steppe
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Gimme a hecking moment you hecklrers

drifting copper
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lmao

undone steppe
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H e c k l e r r i g h t

plush moon
wide root
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WHY

sly kestrel
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I know what manna is but I’m confused how it relates to wasteland

wide root
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Why would it wear such a random name?

sly kestrel
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And that is why....we shall wait for Vinde

plush moon
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S Y M B O L I S M

drifting copper
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it could’ve been golden shores but not really shores of manna-

plush moon
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I mean they used Eden...

sly kestrel
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Gotta point there

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I wouldn’t use too much reference to real life things tho

undone steppe
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Vinde MiatrixToday at 9:46 PM
a better fate than wasteland, the shores of manna, but it's buried in snow
@Imitation(crab)Pie
Shores of Manna was the name before it was named Wasteland, or Golden Wasteland
@warped reef

plush moon
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Ik just trying to find a hint

sly kestrel
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See that’s the thing

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It was an old name

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Prolly from sky light awaits

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The entire story was changed

plush moon
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Jeez that title

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Light is the first thing we see aight time to go XD

undone steppe
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I absorb info like i absorb butterflys

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ley off

drifting copper
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we can’t take old content into account as canon lore, since they’ve been scrapped long ago

sly kestrel
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Yea I looked it up
It was something from sky light awaits

plush moon
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Awww

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Manna sounds cool tho

undone steppe
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Fair BUT RELAVANT

drifting copper
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i agree with the shores just not the manna part

sly kestrel
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Oh I have plentyyyy of info heheheh

drifting copper
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jay start dumping lmao

plush moon
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Pour it all over us lmao

undone steppe
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We should take in Sky as a piece of artwork! And as such, if we're going to analyze i's lore we should also consider a literary veiwpoint!

drifting copper
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shdhehhdehd

undone steppe
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I think that we can agree on what a bird looks like???

drifting copper
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a bird looks like a bird

sonic urchin
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Yes.. I hope so

undone steppe
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But that's jsut it! Who's thinking about a penguin right now?

wide root
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I think you have lost me

sly kestrel
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Seems like we all connected it from our own view and our own interpretation and knowledge
But if we make a viewpoint now, no one will remember it and prolly take it into account

drifting copper
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i literally just came so same i’m lost again

undone steppe
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What I'm trying to say is that the the concept of an item is just another way to veiw that item.

sly kestrel
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Concept is a debatable word here, especially in the lore chat

wide root
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With a lot of different perspective

sly kestrel
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Mainly from the fact that the concepts of this game aren’t current canon

undone steppe
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And if we consider that the wasteland had something to do with Manna ( or essence or Mana) we can make some (slight) assumptions towards it's intended ideal

sly kestrel
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U kno u kinda remind me of hage

plush moon
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Ig to know if it's not totally scrapped

undone steppe
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Maybe I'm becoming too abstract

wide root
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I don’t make the link beetwen the two things

sly kestrel
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Well if there’s the SLIGHTest chance that the name shores of manna relates to current canon
I don’t think it will help much with the story

heady sinew
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It's been a while since I last shared a theory but I have no new juicy ideas at the moment SkyDontGo

wide root
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The wasteland doesn’t seem like a shore...

undone steppe
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I'm just trying to defend the idea of analyzing concept art to use a lens to speculate theory

plush moon
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Light is the nourishment?

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Ships?

undone steppe
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NO WAIT YOU"RE RIGHT

sly kestrel
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Concept art theorizing isn’t that much effective

undone steppe
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It's not a shore

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It's like a land bridge

plush moon
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Trade outpost?

sonic urchin
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It’s a peninsula

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Almost

undone steppe
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do you think that the clouds we fly over in the valley to wasteland ( or valley to forest) conceal an ocean????

heady sinew
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Concept art is good for understanding the canon stuff related to it SkyThink gives a different point of view lolol

plush moon
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Where's the map

wide root
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It looks like a wasteland

undone steppe
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Concept art is good for understanding the canon stuff related to it SkyThink gives a different point of view lolol
@heady sinew

sly kestrel
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Well it wasn’t always a wasteland

wide root
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But now....

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It looks like one

sonic urchin
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It definitely is now

sly kestrel
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And concept art doesn’t much show what it was like before a wasteland

drifting copper
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yeah

heady sinew
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Yeah, sadly SkyFaint

sly kestrel
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We were jus given slight history but like I said earlier
This was concept art

undone steppe
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I used to recreate fortresses from Breath of the wild in art form maybe we could start trying that?

sly kestrel
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I mean back then, golden wasteland was concepted to be a fortress to fight the light creatures that got in the King’s way

sonic urchin
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That’s sad.

plush moon
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That's epic

sly kestrel
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Yea he was a jerk

heady sinew
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Oof, power hungry much

wide root
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No he was an idol

sly kestrel
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There was different king concepts so

drifting copper
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teth made him a jerk smh

sonic urchin
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Yeah, sounds like he went through a lot of different phases

sly kestrel
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Ok point is
Concept art isn’t reliable for the current story

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It’s more of eye candy

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Something cool to look at

heady sinew
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Yus

wide root
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Indeed

undone steppe
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Okay but.... Take some of the constants in his design and find the sum

plush moon
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Rip interesting mysteries

heady sinew
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Also last light quest for the Ark is definetely gonna be fire

plush moon
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Idk maybe he did an outlier

sonic urchin
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But, I do see your point Vinde. We can use it to see what they were thinking when they started and use that to look at what we have now

sly kestrel
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Like this timeline
Anyone interested in lore would love this backstory timeline

heady sinew
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If the Ark burns down I cry

plush moon
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That's a bit small

undone steppe
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'SeVeRaL pEoPlE aRe TyPiNg...'

sly kestrel
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That’s why u zoom in

undone steppe
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I love waking you all up

sly kestrel
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Skymii made it to where it won’t lose its pixels when u zoom in

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tbh I sent that timeline jus for vinde to read but ANYWAYS

wide root
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Why is this not pinned?

sly kestrel
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I’m doing hw

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It’s not pinned

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Bc
It’s a scrapped concept idea

drifting copper
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everytime i look at that i always think of industrial revolution

wide root
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Ahhhhh

drifting copper
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well it’s pinned per se but it’s in a website

sonic urchin
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It’s not the actual story anymore. Unfortunately

wide root
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Sad

sly kestrel
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Yea

drifting copper
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tom zhao’s website has all the concept art oof

sly kestrel
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And from reading that u will kno that the king rlly was a jerk

drifting copper
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yeah

undone steppe
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The king is dead

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Long live the king

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Dm me for my sky id

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peace

sly kestrel
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Actually In the timeline

wide root
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All is a matter of perspective...

drifting copper
sly kestrel
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He wasn’t dead

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Sky id

plush moon
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Cursed

sly kestrel
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Woa

plush moon
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That timeline is awesome but the dark matter is kinda feels bland to me

wide root
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Isn’t that giving up your identity?

plush moon
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Like technology vs nature...

drifting copper
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he became the storm in the concept timeline right?

sly kestrel
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No he got trapped in it

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And the darkstone ark explosion caused the storm

drifting copper
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ah right mixed it up with something else lmao

heady sinew
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The "built ark because they knew creatures would be reluctanct to follow" has me like 👁️ 👄 👁️

sly kestrel
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It’s a TRAP 😭😭

wide root
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?

heady sinew
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(reading the backstory that's not really a canon backstory but it's something)

wide root
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Ah

sly kestrel
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Ye

wide root
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Again this

sly kestrel
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Eye candy

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Vibrato

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Hi

heady sinew
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Anyway, Forgotten Ark, what could it possibly need fire for?? I saw some lanterns but if that is all there is to it then 👁️👄👁️ bruh.

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Henlo Jay!

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I have no clue what will happen but if the Ark burns down to a crisp then that would fit my standards of "impactful"

wide root
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Why would we think it needs fire?

heady sinew
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Idk, last orb quest is fire because we didn't get it yet so it's obvious. I'm wondering what are we gonna restore with it pThink

wide root
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Idk what was it

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Btw there is 2 orbs left

heady sinew
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After you get the purple orb there are some lanterns (like the ones you find at vault) so maybe those light up. Or maybe something else happens

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Two orbs???

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Omgg,,,,

winter girder
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Maybe its just a heart

wide root
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Two other questions mark left, yes

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Who knows

heady sinew
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Ok so, fire orb, and Master Orb lol?

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The questgiver is prob the last spirit to use the last orb quest

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LightRed LightPurple LightOrange LightGreen LightCyan LightBlue bcz there's only six, maybe the seventh is the ending cutscene

wide root
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There is 6 spirits in the ark

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And weirdly 6 questions marks

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technically it’s an orb for each spirit...
Why are we discussing that in lore chat anyways?

heady sinew
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Thought it seemed a bit fitting since it's Ark lore? Point is, I have no clue what the fire orb might restore. Guess we'll gotta wait

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I wonder what the Krill is doing up at the entrance's mountains tho

wide root
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Clearing all this darkness

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I wonder what the Krill is doing up at the entrance's mountains tho
@heady sinew guarding a seecret room?

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Who knows

heady sinew
wide root
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Maybe chasing butterflies too

sly kestrel
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It doesn’t NEED fire
They jus wanted it for their quest of seeking prosperity

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Jus like the other lights

sly kestrel
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Forest, wasteland, and vault

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GEOgRaPHIcALlY
Isle is at the far beaches and this connects to the sunny green hills of praire, thenn, this connects to a lower level of land where hidden forest is, the high trees and low level of ground make it impossible to be able to see the mountain, after forest we go up above the clouds to a higher setting. This is where we enter valley. It’s cold, has mountains and is the peak of civilization. Ice and snow covers this place and my guess is that this is caused by the high altitude and natural coldness. At the end of the valley temple we are almost at close contact with the mountain but with no straight path, we go under and based on how far we travel, it’s safe to say that golden wasteland is under the enormous mountain. We then arrive at vault and this is at the center of the mountain, after we go up to the top, we then reach eden

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Kinda went to far but I jus wanted to explain a clear view of the sky world and boop I also wanted to answer ur question as to why we can’t see the mountain in forest and vault

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I did

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Forest is at a low setting of ground

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And below a lot of clouds

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The mountain is visible above the clouds

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Wasteland

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Is under the mountain

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Vault is in the mountain, leads to the summit

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OHHH

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It’s psychic

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Well based on my knowledge it’s psychic

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Ig u could say it’s sort of related to the illusion element

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But

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Different

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Tbh it’s kinda hard to explain in words

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Sort of like that yea
And I noticed something too, if u exit the ark and go back, the tents sort of have a magic animation that makes it appear

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It’s not entirely real but....it gives a physical form

drowsy spoke
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Wait wait wait

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I’m hearing a lot of talks out elements here

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Are the spirits really connected to the elements then?

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I’m sorry I’m just thinking a lot about the avatar right now

narrow siren
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Ah yes, purple, the tent element

drowsy spoke
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Yeah exactly XD

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Oh and also hi Gary

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Nice seeing you here

narrow siren
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Hello

drowsy spoke
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Ahem back to business, does anyone have any theories about the ark now?

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Like maybe it’s already talked about up up there, but I didn’t see it so 😑

narrow siren
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I really thought it was gonna get repaired and fly away but I guess people live there now?

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There’s no beds tho

drowsy spoke
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I’m pretty sure some big brained people can figure out how the spirits work now that we’ve got scenery

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Maybe they slept in the sand?

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Like see one of them is pretty good friends with crabbis right?

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So maybe they slept with the crabs

narrow siren
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Wasn’t there like a farm where the red light is

drowsy spoke
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Yeah!

narrow siren
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No maybe it was a pond idk

drowsy spoke
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So we know they got farm

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They got tent

narrow siren
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Well agriculture=human life

drowsy spoke
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They got NO BED

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But they got crabbies

narrow siren
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I bet that crab emote guy was vegan

drowsy spoke
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Hahah yeah

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Psst also not human life it’s spirit life

narrow siren
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Spirits are dead tho

drowsy spoke
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Wel... yes but they’3 not humans

narrow siren
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They’re spirits

drowsy spoke
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Like I know what I meant was that I don’t think they were humans to begin with

narrow siren
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Well they didn’t starve they had a farm and somehow had enough resources to build tents and lantern

sly kestrel
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Not humans specifically but yes
They weren’t always spirits

drifting copper
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they weren’t spirits their entire lives so they could’ve been human or at least humnaoid pEyes

drowsy spoke
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Maybe they brought the t4nts with them

narrow siren
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they weren’t spirits their entire lives
pEyes
@drifting copper

drowsy spoke
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I knoow

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I messed up in my talking

drifting copper
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they do have human characteristics and kinda have some similar traits so that’s why i said at least humanoid sjdhdhhd

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think your sentence thrice sjhdsjhd

drowsy spoke
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What I meant was that I don't think they're exactly human as in you and me human

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Yeah people have been telling me to think before I type/talk

narrow siren
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Yeah aren’t turbans also used by merchants that contain items and a blanket

drowsy spoke
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I haven't been listening very well apparently stickerEmbarrassed

sly kestrel
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Who knows they could be a race called dkebwkf
So I wouldn’t consider them exactly as human, even tho they have a body shaped like one

drowsy spoke
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^^Yeah!

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Perhaps they brought the cloth and stuff as blankets for everyone

narrow siren
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At least we haven’t seen any child spirits yet

drowsy spoke
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But you know how the ship overturned and basically everyone went boom boom?

narrow siren
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Where was it going in the first place

sly kestrel
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Actually we have seen child spirits

drowsy spoke
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They'll have a lot of leftover blankets

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Voila tents!

narrow siren
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Where the heck would the ark want to go

drowsy spoke
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Erm, I dunno

sly kestrel
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They were seeking prosperity

drowsy spoke
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There's a theory that the spirits were seaking prosperity

narrow siren
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Before the golden wasteland became a wasteland?

drowsy spoke
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Mmhmm what Jay said

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yeah before golden wasteland became a wasteland

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What do you think golden wasteland was called before it was golden wasteland?

narrow siren
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Golden...land

sly kestrel
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Travelers using the orbs for restoration
So they were prolly headed somewhere where they can.....u kno, restore

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No

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Jus golden

narrow siren
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Oh hmmm

drowsy spoke
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Hmm

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hmmmmmmm

narrow siren
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Can they restore marriages

drowsy spoke
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oof gary

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Maybe a white orb

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With sparkly roses

sly kestrel
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Also I have reason to believe that the ppl on the ark existed during the time when wasteland was still a wasteland

drowsy spoke
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Wait really?

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Please explain

narrow siren
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Do we know where the bow of the ark is

drowsy spoke
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The bow?

narrow siren
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The front

drowsy spoke
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ooh okay

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I think it's where the winged light is

narrow siren
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Hmm

drowsy spoke
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Hey! If the spirits are you know, more adult, are the winged lights the children that died?

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I'm not familiar with ships tho so don't take my word for it

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I've always just assumed that was the bow because why would a little kid be standing at the very back of the ship?

narrow siren
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I’m kinda familiar with sailboats/yachts...not arks

drowsy spoke
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He, never will be familiar never will be

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I just sort of ride on it and not question anythin

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Until you know, we flip

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Then I start questioning life

sly kestrel
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We all kno they got stuck on that desert area and when the shrug emote spirit was in the cave, he was using his power to try to cure the water, indicating that the water was corrupted. Also there was a krill, and crabs were also present during their time

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Sorry for late response

steep coyote
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@drowsy spoke holaaa that might be true but I remember that in the Valley there was a mother Spirit with her child... And the Child wasn't with her so your theory might be true

sly kestrel
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Also the winged lights aren’t related to the spirits in any way

drowsy spoke
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@steep coyote Ooh wait which spirit is that?

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Is it the stance?

narrow siren
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Can the winged lights just sit down their necks would be killing them if they had a nervous system

drowsy spoke
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I always thought that was her friend or her (cough cough) gooood friend (wink wink)

steep coyote
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The one that sells you the long pants ahah

drowsy spoke
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... the which one

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I don't have cosmetic trees 😦

steep coyote
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Wait

drowsy spoke
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Not a veteran, this one. A butterfly, this one is

sly kestrel
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At least we haven’t seen any child spirits yet
@narrow siren
There has been child spirits seen, there’s the wide stance’s memory showing the kid on her shoulders, and the 3 kids from the season of belonging

narrow siren
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Oh nooooo

steep coyote
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AH THAT! yes

sly kestrel
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Wdym oh no
U got a problem with kids?

steep coyote
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Ahaha

narrow siren
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Poor kids

sly kestrel
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What are u talking about

narrow siren
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:[

steep coyote
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Death never spare anyone guys, we can feel sorry as we want but sometimes we can't change some things

drowsy spoke
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Death doesn't discriminate

steep coyote
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But we can avoid it sometimes

drowsy spoke
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Between the sinners and the saints, it takes and it takes and it take

narrow siren
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Well yeah they’re aready dead but you can still have empathy for a memory/corpse

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BUT WE KEEP LIVING ANYWAY

steep coyote
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Yess

sly kestrel
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Omg

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Jus bc we’ve seen kid spirits

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Doesn’t mean they died as kids

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It’s jus a part of their memory
They could’ve grown to be a soldier or something

narrow siren
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(Something) and if there’s a reason I’m still alive and so many have died, I’m willing to wait for it

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Ah ok

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What did they fight against in Sky

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Krill?

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No wait

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Yeah what did they even fight

drowsy spoke
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Darkness

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and fear

sly kestrel
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There’s theories on a civil war

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But

narrow siren
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...then who won

sly kestrel
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Wayy too lazy to explain that again

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We don’t have confirmed answers like that

narrow siren
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Aww

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Well they’d need bombs to make the golden wasteland a wasteland

drowsy spoke
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you can check out the pins if you want

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there are a few confimed thingies there

sly kestrel
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According to my theories and my knowledge
Either one could’ve won the battle at wasteland

narrow siren
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Ooo ok

drowsy spoke
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And also speculation

sly kestrel
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There are no bombs in sky

drowsy spoke
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There's industrialism tho

sly kestrel
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Even if there was
There’s no sign of any explosion

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No concept of it either

drowsy spoke
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There kind of is a sign of an explosion

sly kestrel
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Doesn’t mean they made bombs

drowsy spoke
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I know

sly kestrel
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It’s totally random to jus add bombs in sky

drowsy spoke
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I personally support the theory that a storm blew over wasteland

sly kestrel
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Pretty sure it would’ve been obvious if bombs were used

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The eden explosion I believe tho

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Hey totoro

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Where’d u get the idea that they fought darkness and fear

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Jus wondering

drowsy spoke
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Erm I dunno

sly kestrel
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damn

drowsy spoke
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I don't have a source actually

sly kestrel
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Alrightyyyy
Jus wonderin

drowsy spoke
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I just saw the concepts about the king, and the falling red rocks of HELL

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and I just thought "yep that's darkness and fear alright"

sly kestrel
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Darkness and fear is more of a skykid’s battle

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If ur talking about eden

drowsy spoke
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yeah I know

cobalt palm
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On the butterflies lifting boats, maybe it is like light in our world...
If you have a torch, it won't burn anything, but using a magnifying glass you can use the same amount if light focused on a point to make a fire.
Maybe that is how the power diamonds work, by focusing the power of light to a specific point, such as the movement of the paddles.
We also theotized that the diamonds aren't only made from light, there is other raw materials too, so possibly that's where the trees are used.

pallid delta
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Hello, did someone create a file with the whole story of this wonderful game?

cobalt palm
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@pallid delta there are 2 in the pins, first what has been "confirmed" on streams as what the developers and designers were going for, and a second of the constantly growing speculations, though neither will be entirely "complete"

pallid delta
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Oh yeah i'm blind 😅 sorry
Thanks !

sly kestrel
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Hello, did someone create a file with the whole story of this wonderful game?
@pallid delta
If only it was that easy 😂😂, if we had all that, this chat wouldn’t exist

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Wait a minute

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Moth pWow

undone steppe
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So. I finished the game again. It only really supports my idea or renewal and rebirth

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Skykids are just harnessing all the light to be cleaned

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The sun is just beaming it back to the planet

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And like most religions, light forgives darkness and they kiss or somethign

hushed steeple
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They do mention in the office that the different maps represent the different stages of life, and that the final area is death/rebirth.

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But that said, its a child of light at the end that you have to help/hug, even when you've lost your own light, and they give you your light/cape back.

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So if it's about light forgiving darkness would not the roles be reversed for that scene?

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@undone steppe

undone steppe
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You know what I think you're right

hushed steeple
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I think you're partially right given the evidence in the office.

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But its interesting for sure.

undone steppe
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I feel like skykids being pyschopomps is well known

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What do I speculate about next????

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wait!!!

hushed steeple
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That said, when I observe dark/light in the game, the roles of dark/light are interesting.

◇ Darkness spores grow out of containers of stored butterflies.
◇ Skykids are dark and powerless unless filled with light/winged children.

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Overall there seems to be a theme of dark eating light.

undone steppe
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If the elders are the demigod rulers of the old realm, who oversaw the kingdom of spirits, perhaps the truth is...

hushed steeple
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In the case of collecting the butterflies it could be that darkness spores are unnatural, and grow as a manifestation of the perverted course of nature?

There seems to be cases of darkness being used for ill/and for good.

undone steppe
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Queen Manta is the embodiment of light and all things ethereal. She created the elders ( I do t know why) and the elders created the world out of clouds, but in the process, binding things to the material realm

hushed steeple
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By queen manta do you mean the megabird?

undone steppe
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Mamabirb yes

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Spirits were born, whom rivaled the elders with magic and technology

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Death, betrayal, destruction etc

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And now, despite the bloodshed the material world costs, megabird forgives alll by sending sky children to cleanse.

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Sorry if I sound like a broken record

hushed steeple
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The elders created things out of clouds, other than the fact the landscape seems to grow out of clouds do you have anything else to support your hypothesis of elders creating things out of clouds? And that spirits attacked the elders?
There doesn't really appear to be evidence of strife between elders and spirits. Especially considering the fact that in order to put the spirits at rest you have to visit the statue of the elder of that respective realm.
If I were a spirit, I don't think visiting a statue of my enemy would put me at rest.
Personal misgivings aside, before you send the spirits away, they kneel at the statue of the elder as if waiting to be released (which they are).

sturdy gate
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So she's the god of sky

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She created everything

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UM

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sorry

undone steppe
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Fair I guesssss....

sturdy gate
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I don't even know why I'm calling megabird a "she"

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Hhh forgive me

undone steppe
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I really need to work on my evidence gathering

sturdy gate
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So megabird is the light

undone steppe
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God is non-binary

sturdy gate
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Yup

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Sorry

undone steppe
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You are forgiven

hushed steeple
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Could I have your input as to what I said earlier?

undone steppe
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Goodnight

sturdy gate
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yay

undone steppe
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Wait one moment

hushed steeple
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About darkness/light?

undone steppe
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I think it's the same

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There's a tale from gnostism that describes an angel, send from heaven into the world of an imperfect God.

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The child forgets heaven in place of it's earthly delights and is stuck there until it can swim to the bottom of a lake and rest the pearl of wisdom from a serpant

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When you are under a lake. Or in the dark, you will cling to any light you can find.

sturdy gate
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That happens a lot in sky

undone steppe
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Darkness is the literal absense of god

hushed steeple
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The winged lights have to be invited in though. They aren't simply taken. There is a hand icon to invite them in.

Also there is the scene at the end where you (dark powerless child), have to forgive the light at the end.

sweet dirge
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Megaburb

sturdy gate
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when you die you are flying towards a light

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hmm

undone steppe
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Hmmmm

hushed steeple
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If anything it seems that the winged lights are looking for a home.

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Or for comfort/companionship.

undone steppe
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Well it seems like you're relying on the light to hug you by opening you arms

sturdy gate
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I'm wondering who are the fallen ones

undone steppe
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It takes two to hug

sturdy gate
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there were other sky kids before us?

hushed steeple
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Exactly. We have to go towards them.
Then we help them up.
Then we hug them, and we can both leave that place.

undone steppe
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Darkness binds things

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Have you noticed that you can't hold hands as you fly into orbit

hushed steeple
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Anyway. I think I will leave you two to it. Thank you for the discussion.

sturdy gate
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maybe you don't need to hold hands there

hushed steeple
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It was very productive and fun.

fiery condor
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Hm

undone steppe
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I feel like it's because you're pure light,

sturdy gate
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you don't need to protect each other anymore

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You're inside the light

sweet dirge
undone steppe
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Hitting things while you're pure light doesn't hurt you

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So I assume it is the body that is weak and not the soul

fiery condor
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What if those sky kids were us from the past, but they failed their mission? Which is why some sky kids are reborn to save the fallen, for them to either forever stay in orbit or continue their mission

sturdy gate
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we should try to lose light in orbit

undone steppe
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Good luck and goodnight

sweet dirge
sturdy gate
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then why our spirits follow other sky kids until they die too

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why don't we just go straight to the light

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oh we are actually clean right before we die

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all the darkness goes away

pearl void
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Wasteland daddy,and forest sista

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At least that's what i call them for now

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Isle ah gong (grandpa), i may call him this

cold steppe
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You can’t hold hands as you fly up the light into the Eden area that leads to orbit, but you can hold hands once you reach that area. My friends and I have held hands the entire way to orbit before

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Like right after you hug the kid, you can’t hold hands, but you can hold hands once you’ve gone up and rejoined your friends. It’s a little difficult, but it’s definitely doable

fading bear
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Can I ask something?

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What's megabird? I've seen you talk about this, but I've never heard about it

pearl void
sweet dirge
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burb

pearl void
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What's the lore seekers believe so far,megabird is the creator of skykid, possibly the narrator during the first cut scene when you enter sky, and also entity that we fly to at orbit to be reborn

fading bear
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wow that's so cool

cold steppe
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Megabird was an old concept, and the current debate is whether or not it actually made its way into the game we have

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I personally think so, but the lore is kind of vague (if there is any at all)

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Definitely check out the concept art in the pins! Megabird plays a much larger role in the concepts

fading bear
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I just found some of that art, it's so good!

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it would be really nice if they would expand the lore a bit in future updates

cold steppe
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Yes!!

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This season is trying to do that as well

fading bear
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I love it so much! The new area looks gorgeous and the paintings on the ark and in the maze are zo nice

mellow sable
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I wonder what the time cycle of the sky kingdom is

idle harness
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Ark area start to look like marketplace. We see spirits raising up tents. One of them is reading book/manual?
Is it possible this to become place for item trade? TGC never confirmed we can buy or exchange items between players. Still is it possible to have trades in the Ark?

uncut stirrup
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that'd be really cool! But i'm not sure what you'd trade

celest spoke
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Tent colors are the same as flower colors— purple and saffron-yellow were historically “royal” colors in different parts of the world because of dyestuff issues, though not always made from plants. frex Mediterranean royal purple was made from shellfish (tho not crabs); Japanese purple (murasaki) was from gromwell root

calm bobcat
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The mega bird does seem to pull us towards it in Eden along with all the spirits

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And sky kids are attracted to light

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There is also this force in space called a repeller which could be like the darkness

carmine saffron
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I GOT ON CAMERA THE KRILL THING

hollow pier
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@desert sun @noble sandal I believe the Nest in praire recharges capes when not around anything because there's "ambient light" (so long as you're within a certain area, even if you're not around birds or mantas or candles your cape recharges)

This ambient light + the name of the area + a little bit of lore in one of the TGC videos leads me to believe that the ambient light in the nest creates new creatures of light

As for the citadel in Valley, the effect appears to be centralised on the largest armillary sphere, I think this area may have been like the nest (a location that generates ambient/extra light) and that light is being used to power the armillary spheres rotation/scientific powers, or maybe it's the reverse or something else entirely

carmine saffron
hollow pier
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@hushed steeple @unreal wind @steep coyote winged light don't want to be free, they're just shadows/imprints left behind by "the child of light" whoever that is, the prince or the king or the megabird or something

carmine saffron
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@carmine saffron It’s the second time that happens

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I touch it and it does nothig

hollow pier
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@drifting copper the intro seems to imply that each of the elders (aka the stars that fell) went straight to each of the different realms instead of going to first eden and then each of the realms

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@sly kestrel I suggest next time a dev is online in #lore-discussion-spoilers we ask if "But darkness blinds, so I cast them away" is still canon as I think we'll actually get an answer

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I'm pinging you cause you appear to be online when the devs are and I never am stickerGloomypCry

cold steppe
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ooh, blinds?

pearl void
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That is on way back, when on beta, the text is diffrent now

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It krilled the mantas behind
@carmine saffron ermm as i see it, you're aaaallllmost touch it and then fly up

carmine saffron
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Oh...thats because there wind on it

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Like with barriers

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Anyways You can touch it if you fly to it after he gets out of the water

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*there is

uncut stirrup
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I think

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Sky kids would be like, softly warm

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like a lightbulb

night sleet
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Yeah

uncut stirrup
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also, they just love holding hands

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like, they dont need a reason to

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they just hold hands sometimes when they're bored

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and like, cute stuff is written in their dna

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this is all speculation tho

shadow coyote
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I assumed sky children were born from candles 😅

uncut stirrup
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Their uh.... wax...n...a

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Oh no that means their hands would be all waxy and sticky...

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maybe that's how they're able to hold on so well

fading bear
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Does anybody know where I can find concept art for the prince?

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I could only find 1 picture in the pinned comments

wind bone
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No that opening text isn’t canon anymore

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The current opening text is pinned

sly kestrel
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So there was no casting away

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They simply....fell bc of darkness

idle harness
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@fading bear If you mean the King there is wall drawing inside Elders room on top of Vault. Also lot of images of King on top of Eden in concept art: https://www.tomzhao.com/sky1

sly kestrel
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There’s the prince found in concepts as well

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I'm pinging you cause you appear to be online when the devs are and I never am stickerGloomypCry
@hollow pier
😳, nOpe
Ash said hi, she went away for a while and then ash came back, but then I had to go away for a while. So I couldn’t ask any questions rlly, I haven’t got something from them in a while

fading bear
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thanks :)

humble barn
#

Good morning everyone, Mochi When you say prairie manta are you also referring to the ones in the birds nest or just the ones at the bell towers?
@/Azaura#7439 Before I answered "both", but today I noticed that smaller mantas in the bell towers, which appeared after lighting 2 towers, were valley-type.

celest spoke
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In forest temple, the diamond case on the sunny side is patterned but the one on dark plant is not— have been meaning to compare case pattern to spire pattern to citadel oob bridge pattern

sly kestrel
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It’s the same, they all have that gold pattern

undone steppe
#

I always wondered if telekinesis could be used on more than just a door pThink

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Ark catapult

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It had defensive capabilities

fading bear
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Against Krills maybe?

undone steppe
#

Maybe

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I don't know though.

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If I was stranded I would repurpose a catapult

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Why is it under water? Did they try to fish it out? Or did it just happen to sink there with time

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Physics would say if it sunk there, it wasn't mounted ontoo of the ship

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So they took it off the ship and pointed it to the krill mountain.

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I pose that they expected the krill to follow them. But only weeks after they arrived

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The smarter krills look for you now, following you and checking crevices

sly kestrel
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My guess is that the catapult was there before the ark crashed

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Going by my theory that the enchantment spirits lived while wasteland was still a wasteland
That catapult must’ve been there for a long time, prolly from an old battle, theres boats scattered around the area so it’s safe to say they weren’t the first ones to discover that area

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Actually now that I think about it.....
Krills seem to be present in significant areas. They don’t jus wander everywhere. There’s a krill at the diamond press, 3 at the creature slaughter (graveyard), 1 directly above the cargo ship, 3 at the wasteland cathedral and 1 at the entrance of the hidden island

celest spoke
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also the eden krills, however you want to describe their habitats

undone steppe
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Hidden island? I. The forest orrrr?

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Ah, you mean the ark

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Idk I think that the catapult came with the ark cause if it wasn't the first thing I'd do is fish that sucker out and use it like a water fountain or something

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Liek some dev has to think "would the ark area have a catapult.... Yeah... It really should.

fading bear
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I think this painting could explain all of the other boats in the area

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There were a lot of little boats who flew together with the ark

idle harness
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The only catapult in operation is inside Graveyard. It basically shoot you in krill mouth. Maybe this will also work. There is krill flying nearby. Also the Ark is broken in pieces. Catapult may been inside and fell when lightning strike and turned it over.

fading bear
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Also, a little bit off topic, but is it raining in the ark area?

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It sounds like it is, but not like in the forest

undone steppe
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Hmmm idk

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Maybe they used the catapult to launch spirits as krill bait

high mural
#

Also, a little bit off topic, but is it raining in the ark area?
@fading bear nope

fading bear
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oof

unborn fog
#

Anyone else notice how anywhere there is industrialization e.g. wasteland & eden as evidenced by the pipes it always is a disaster zone? Also if you get up close to the krills you can hear a mechanical sound, which also might tie into the industrialization of those zones. Also, if you fly behind a krill, there is black dust falling off of it, maybe this is showing how krills are attracted to industrialization or just a large gathering of skykids?

queen loom
#

I found some concept art for what looks like a Krill. Apparently they were originally made to be able to die after being corrupted. It looks like the one that’s dying in the picture with the mantas was crawling towards the light, maybe to try to save itself

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Maybe they attack us because they need the light or else they’ll die?

wide root
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We can’t consider art as canon

desert sun
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but we can use the concepts presented to further our theories as to what happened

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because we dont have much to go off in the first place

wide root
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Ok point is
Concept art isn’t reliable for the current story
It’s more of eye candy
Something cool to look at
@sly kestrel

wind bone
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You can totally use concept art to connect the dots of what’s going on

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Concept art may not be exactly what’s in the game right now

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But there are still parts that have made it in

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You just gotta analyze and see which parts those are 👀

night sleet
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Yeah...

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Well krill appear to need light, but they don’t take it, since it always goes back...

craggy nexus
#

They're able to get light from mantas though-- maybe we're just a bit more durable?

sly kestrel
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Need light?

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Hmm where’d u get that?

wide root
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Yesterday

sly kestrel
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And I said concepts aren’t reliable bc it’s hard to differentiate which is canon and which is jus a scrapped idea. Like the battle with the creatures, who knows that could’ve happened in the current story as it was said in the concepts
All I know is that they are simply old ideas that were made when developing the game, and there’s no way of rlly telling if it can still help us

plush moon
#

Does anyone have a theory on the forest door

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Blue diamonds are stone and the yellow ones are light?

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Why's the diamonds in the place where it looks like a tree design

sturdy gate
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Oh wow I didn’t notice the trees before!

plush moon
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So the trees do have branches XD

sturdy gate
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Oh yes!

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Omg this is amazing!

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It looks like the trees hold the temple

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Maybe they’re the power source? Although we hav egg diamonds

plush moon
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The boat designs are slightly different

sturdy gate
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Hmm

craggy nexus
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...Interesting, the diamonds from the trees once the trees "break" and the diamonds from the bottles on the boats seem to power the temple?

sturdy gate
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They don’t looks like the boats in ark

plush moon
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Remember it's the door to the temple there's the diamond press

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The boats in the air have two arching ends the boats below them only have one

wide root
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The boats looks similar to the ones in island

craggy nexus
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Perhaps energy/power/fuel to make diamonds is harvested from both butterflies and trees?

plush moon
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B O A T S

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Hmm we've assumed that power dimaonds are made of stone

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What does the elder cutscene show?

wide root
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They sound like pots

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(The diamonds)

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When you step on big diamond in the observatory

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It sounds like a pot

plush moon
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I m going to go check the boat designs

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Prairie

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Isle

wide root
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(I was talking about the boats drawing in the front door of the island’s temple)

plush moon
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Ik I'm trying to find the right boat it fit design

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Prarie vaguely looks like the boats near the top

acoustic inlet
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Blue diamonds are stone and the yellow ones are light?
@plush moon maybe the diamonds are made from the trees since the trees rotate as if they were felled... and we can see fallen trees through the forest...

plush moon
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:0 nice input

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This ties in with wasteland deforestation

acoustic inlet
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and there's a memory that a elder cuts a tree

wide root
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There is no sign of trees remnants in wasteland

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Or is it?

plush moon
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There are

wide root
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...

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Roots?

mellow sable
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there's a diagram

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of the diamond making machines

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wood goes in, diamond goes out

wide root
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What diagram?

mellow sable
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uhh

plush moon
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Wth I thought it was stone

mellow sable
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concept art

plush moon
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Actually the prairie boats better resemble the bottom boats

wide root
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And the boat in the island temple’s door?

acoustic inlet
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I guess there's no wood in the sky world... even the trees are made from stones

plush moon
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XD

wide root
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Why there would be no wood?

acoustic inlet
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i'm not sure... the trees looks like stones

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why did a civilization make stone boats if there's wood? hahah

mellow sable
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acid rain

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why it makes our flame go out

plush moon
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Ugh there are actually different prairie boats

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So yeah the boat in the underground pond thing looks like the lower boats most

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Idk about the upper ones

sly kestrel
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Does anyone have a theory on the forest door
@plush moon
I thought I told u the story behind it..

wide root
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We need a new archive

sly kestrel
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I knew u never listened 😑

plush moon
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Wut I just legit don't remember ;-;

sly kestrel
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The entire paragraph of diamond production

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That mural tells a short story of it

plush moon
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I'm just fact checking the boats :I

sly kestrel
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Pots of light plus the material at forest is combined at the factory and this is what produces the power diamonds

wide root
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We just need a new archive to store all those idea bc we are just repeating the same ideas over and over
Why wouldn’t i do it: bc i don’t have the patience to do so

sly kestrel
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And that’s exactly why I have a copy and pasted version of my explanation on diamond production

wide root
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Just your explanations?

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Why?

sly kestrel
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So if ppl don’t kno about power diamonds

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I can jus paste the thing

plush moon
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Did u check the boats already

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Now that I think about it the whale cave is like a butterfly sanctuary where pots of em are disposed

acoustic inlet
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whale cave is the underground forest?

desert sun
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yea ig thats what they call it now

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i like whale cave

ember zodiac
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Maybe Eye of Eden was a source of energy which was used to harness darkness but one day something happened and the entire realms were covered by darkness

neon mirage
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The giant bones in wasteland, do y’all think those are whales, perhaps really old and large when they died or are they some other sort of animal? The skulls remind me of the whale but they just seem so much bigger

hushed steeple
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Hi guys, I'm exploring the areas now and idea came to me. I was thinking of recording every single piece of evidence I could and making a blog with photo evidence detailing what happened to the kingdom of sky. Do you think that would be interesting? Its just that this chat moves so fast its hard to keep track sometimes.

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@neon mirage If those skulls are bigger than the whales its possible we haven't seen those creatures yet. However we haven't really gotten a chance to see whales up close so its not like we can get an idea of how big their heads are in comparison to the skulls.

neon mirage
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There’s a whale skeleton in forest that I’m using for size reference

hushed steeple
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Ah I know that one.
Its true though the stuff in wasteland seems bigger but perhaps the whales weren't all one size? If they aren't whales its something we haven't seen yet.

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Sorry to not be of much help. Its a really good find.

neon mirage
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That’s ok! I was just wondering if anyone knew what the bones were

wind bone
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Yeah I don’t think all whales are the same size

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The whale we see in forest/wasteland/orbit is way bigger than that skeleton

neon mirage
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So possibly a really old whale then

wind bone
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But the skeleton is definitely a whale!

hushed steeple
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Valid point, it's probably just bigger whales then. Perhaps over time the people of sky became cockier and more ambitious.

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Going after bigger and possibly more sacred sources of light.

neon mirage
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Poor whales ): I wonder why there isn’t more art of them if they were such a good source of light

hushed steeple
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I can look and see.

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But I really want to make a blog cataloging everything in game tbh

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And trying to link it all together.

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The whales are something I didnt think about.

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But I'd love to look for more evidence in world.

neon mirage
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That’s a cool idea!

plush moon
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@neon mirage I like ur username and profile pic :))

round river
sly kestrel
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Hmmm
Why is ur piano flipped at the wrong side 🤔

wind bone
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The flower

sly kestrel
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No wayyy
Flowers can defy physics now pFIRE

undone steppe
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I'll make a new archive

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If the old one is for sure dead

night sleet
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Do you know why some spirits have capes, and others don’t?

celest spoke
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Wahaha you should see what flower does to horn

night sleet
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Oh nooo

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What does it do?

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My trusty horn....

celest spoke
night sleet
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Oh noo

celest spoke
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Imma spin around smack that poor moth inna face

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Meanwhile it occurs to me that the composite diamond in forest temple door literally represents forest aunt’s ceiling fan

kindred trout
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What if Sky is close to Life itself..

sick tendon
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Flower does that because you get xylophone with it. You're carrying an invisible xylophone under your horn 😂

random cosmos
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I hope we get to keep the invisible xylophone with any upcoming flower fixes 🍀

drifting copper
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pretty sure 0.9.4 fixed all the flower accessory related bugs so the xylophone’s gone

open bridge
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To answer your whales question

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This was the original design for krills

sly kestrel
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That was another creature that was thought of

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Wasn’t a krill

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Wasn’t a whale

drifting copper
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god i hate those legs at the back

vague plover
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The whale sir is a bit spooky! But man I just?? I really love all the concept art I've seen for sky- it's so good!

tranquil gyro
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that reminds me a little bit of no face from spirited away haha

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the fur scares me

vague plover
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Oh yea!!!

sly kestrel
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AHHH I THOUGHT THE SAME TOO

vague plover
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Where can I find more concept art for sky? :o I honestly really wanna just go through some of it in awe

sly kestrel
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Pinned messages

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The concept arts by Tom Zhao are the best ones in my opinion

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But we got a wholleeee library in the pins

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Have fun !!

vague plover
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Okay! Thank you!!💖💖

heady sinew
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I also think that toothy boi concept looks a bit like No Face from Spirited Away! The devs did confirm some of them are Ghibli fans so it makes sence SkyLOL

drifting copper
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oooooo no wonder it reminded of that

sly kestrel
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Our 4 minds

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Connected to the same thought

drifting copper
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we’re sharing braincells

sly kestrel
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“We are all one, and one is us all”
-narrator

waxen elbow
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Anyone has a clearer picture of this? I'm trying so hard to read it

frozen plank
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Hey does anyone know what the constellation circles in Prairie are for (ik the middle one is for the mantas bc it lights up but the rest do nothing).

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I'm not even sure if this is the right channel to ask in

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Or if y'all have already talked about it I didn't see

sly kestrel
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I gotchu hyde

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One of the coolest backstories you will ever read

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It’s a scrapped concept idea of the story
But it’s still cool to read tho

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If it looks blurry jus wait about 5 seconds, it should be clear to read

karmic ledge
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Jay how was the sandwich you made yesterday

round river
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Hmmm
Why is ur piano flipped at the wrong side 🤔
@sly kestrel
I did meet a person with his chair (table) flipped inside his body instead of upside down bcs of the flower😂😂
But..
Can someone answer my questions 😅

sly kestrel
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It was amazing ash

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It was

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Amazing

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And my bad tuna prince 😂
From what I got, those were kinda like slum

waxen elbow
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@sly kestrel thank you!

hollow canopy
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Just curious but what is the story of the crying spirit?

sly kestrel
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Huge story

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This girl and her friends were in a cave, as the memory goes, an accident happened causing rocks to collapse on her friends
Her and her other friend had a struggle trying to get them out...but they sadly died. Time past and eventually the crying spirit made graves for her dead friends. Time passes even more and her last friend dies
At the last scene of her memory she has graves of all her passed friends set up, and then finally she sits down........and weeps

lilac stone
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Tbh they seem like miners

fading bear
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The story is so sad :(

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Maybe the rocks collapsed because of the Whale that crashed

sly kestrel
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That’s what I said too

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There’s a trail of broken trees where the whale crashed

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And a broken building obviously but it’s safe to say that the whale’s fall caused a huge impact on the ground most likely causing the rocks at the cave to collapse

sweet dirge
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Is the timeline canon?

drowsy spoke
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Hey guys

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I think skykids are hollow

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I mean this could have been talked about before when I wasn't here but just now I was going oob and was stuck at a place

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Long story short, I was able to loook into myself and there really isn't anything there...?

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Just our little chest diamond thing, our hair and our skin\

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so do you think that skykids are hollow? But if they are hollow what kind of material could they be to be able to withstand falling from like fifty stories up?

pearl void
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so do you think that skykids are hollow? But if they are hollow what kind of material could they be to be able to withstand falling from like fifty stories up?
@drowsy spoke Clear TPU like those phone case

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😉

drowsy spoke
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Haha yeah

round river
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And my bad tuna prince 😂
From what I got, those were kinda like slum
@sly kestrel
Ouhh.... i thought it was residence since the valley is the peak of civilization
Or... is that an old canon?🤔

drowsy spoke
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I feel like the vault lady was the only one that kindly accepted our light

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Like the valley twins played catch with it

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the forest lady snatched it

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the wasteland dude.... I don't know took it with his staff thingy

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And I don't remember much about prairie and isle

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But the vault lady just kindly accepted it form us and man thank you!

round river
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Isle granpa also accept the light kindly
He embraced it before use the light to lead the birds

drowsy spoke
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Ooh

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We stan isle grandpa and nice vault lady

round river
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I don't really remember prairie tho🤔

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Yeahh😆

cobalt palm
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I just noticed, in the ark, I associated the lightseekers with hidden forest, mostly because of the vertical lines looking like the trees represented in other murals, but now I notice the things they are holding (possibly umbrella) also look similar to the hammer in the forest constellation. Not necessarily a lore point, but interesting connection.

round river
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A pickaxe maybe🤔

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So it could be they found the light from mining

hot coral
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Can anyone explain to me what is the story with the big bones that you can find in the vault and forest?

sick path
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I just noticed, in the ark, I associated the lightseekers with hidden forest, mostly because of the vertical lines looking like the trees represented in other murals, but now I notice the things they are holding (possibly umbrella) also look similar to the hammer in the forest constellation. Not necessarily a lore point, but interesting connection.
@cobalt palm this ties in with what @plush moon posted with their findings on the temple door in Forest (I had noticed this too and came here to see if anyone else picked up on it)

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Idk if anyone has mentioned this already (sorry, too far to scroll back), but it seems that the object “harvested” from the trees (?) were turned into the spells we use now. Displayed are the Fireworks, Campfire, and Resize potions.
I’m guessing this season’s emblem is a boat carrying a spell.

sly kestrel
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Is the timeline canon?
@sweet dirge
No

humble barn
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I think the vertical lines on the ark mural are rain

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and if you see the whole murals on the ark the light is obviously coming from above, not from the trees

drowsy spoke
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So I went oob and found these murals. Do they count for anything?

raw grotto
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They show a story of each place i think

last wigeon
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Has someone got a picture of the king/prince of eden mountain?

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I cant find one of him was he in isle?

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Mural

stuck flame
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I know you guys don’t look into the spirits backstories but— I think the hide-and-seek spirit was an expecting mother. I’m thinking this because in previous convos, we were talking about why that spirit gives us the chibi mask and that’s because she wanted us to be her child(?). Plus she was playing the game with her supposed partner.. so something to think about

raw grotto
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Wow

stuck flame
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It’s weird but maybe she was just messing around with her partner and was in the early stages of her pregnancy.

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Plus she’s the tallest. That indicated she was also a fully grown adult

raw grotto
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I thought she was jusf childish, maybe we should pay her a visit as a chibi

stuck flame
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Yeah

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Her story is so cute but so sad because she didn’t see that tragedy happening to the entire civilization

sick path
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I agree with u Sabriath, about the orbs turned into spells. And also it looks like these orbs are really safe to be used by children (the smol person there that uses a firework spell).
@hushed steeple and if you notice in this picture, the storm caused the spirits to crash/capsize, and yet the spells/orbs remain in the ship. (This is why I secretly think that we may be able to buy/collect spells here in the future, not to mention each spirit require a different coloured light....maybe to make their own specialty spell)

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on a quest to find the booty

mossy bay
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I agree with that! Ktjn did confirm that the ark and the find the light quests in this area are not tied to the season of enchantment and will stay as a permanent fixture even after the season is over. It is most probably a milestone feature that once completed enables us to farm and collect resources on the map in order to brew and create our own potions

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I hope this will be a possibility because the spells available through the travelling spirits aren’t cutting it for me anymore. if i could brew one resize potion every week I’d be set

sick path
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@mossy bay ikr! The little “farm” on the other side is getting my hopes up pCry

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Also, the fact that those last two spells were updated with a new look when the season started 🤔

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The lines drawn through the jars seem like they could be the lines in the music sheets? There are six uniques patterns for the sheets, and six shelves of jars...idk maybe just reaching 🤔
Edit: picture credit to @drowsy spoke who posted above

plush moon
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@sick path do u think this may relate to how the instruments have a special symbol, resembling a fallen star or the eden star

pearl void
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Also, anyone else draw on any similarities between these? Or is it just my imagination?
@sick path the devs said i forgot his name, imma chck later, in ancient text or drawing, straight line signify abundance or a lot, as in many, so instead of drawing a lot of jar or people, a straight line is represented as a lot or many

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He kinda wanna say that the line on the drawing is reference to that

lilac stone
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What are those cloth things in ark?

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They look like bazaars to me

plush moon
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I mean but the shelves we see of the power diamond lanterns showed them lined up perfectly like in the mural, so the abundance logic doesn't make as sense for me. Plus, why are the lines different why not just straight lines? @pearl void

sick path
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@sick path the devs said i forgot his name, imma chck later, in ancient text or drawing, straight line signify abundance or a lot, as in many, so instead of drawing a lot of jar or people, a straight line is represented as a lot or many
@King.#7185 ahhh I see, that makes sense!

lilac stone
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What are those

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The description of the orb said it was knowledge

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I don't see any knowledge in cloth things?

pearl void
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So this is my personal interpretation of the squiggly constellation lines on the group of figures at the bottom: it's meant by ancient sky artisans as a way to simply symbolize that there's crowds of people. The same way a constellation=a grouping of stars, having a collection of figures connected by the constellation lines=a large grouping of people. If that makes sense!
You'll also find real world artists of ancient history would find ways to simply signify groupings of things. Instead of having to paint/carve/draw/chisel every single one, they could just draw a few instead to symbolize 'the many'.
Ahh it's by Ash

plush moon
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Ye that makes sense now XD

undone steppe
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This door to Eden has that diamond symbol, just like out skykids chest... Didn't we think that there were warring factions with the symbols?

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( sorry, it's hard to see

fallow ivy
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Whats lore??

exotic shuttle
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i think of lore as the story of the world

night sleet
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Yeah

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Do you need to use spoilers here?

red gale
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These stacked rocks are to represent the people that died in the cave with them 😭🤧

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Because they were trapped in the rocks and they couldn't get them out

dusk echo
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dr phil bringing in the feels

stuck oyster
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Just wanted to share my theories from a few days ago

dusk echo
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its rlly good! i love the theory and tbh angst is my jam pEyes

stuck oyster
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I also have theories on how some spirits died and all that

dusk echo
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ooo what is it? would love to hear them!

night sleet
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Why do some spirits have capes, and others not?

dusk echo
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oh yea thats interesting too!

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i mean im not a theory aficionado but im also confused why spirits r adults

stuck oyster
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Ok so the new crab emote spirit is the most obvious one

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He got crabbed

night sleet
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Yeah?

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Yeah

dusk echo
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AHAHAHA nice

stuck oyster
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uh

night sleet
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It would have been kinda cool if he had the crab call

dusk echo
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true true

stuck oyster
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The spirits in vault, the ones you find along the lift, they got left behind and starved to death

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Like the peaceful standing spirit

night sleet
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Oh god that’s dark

dusk echo
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oh no pCry

stuck oyster
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And the spirits in prairie, the ones behind locked doors. Got locked inside

night sleet
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So sad

dusk echo
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gosh thats awful ;w;

night sleet
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Yeah...

dusk echo
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o what abt valley spirits?

stuck oyster
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hmm

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ohno

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The spirit way above ice rink. On the cliff

night sleet
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Yeah