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They remind me of walking mines like in video games
Yeaaaah
I can see that
And they kill you
So it makes sense
They almost seem turtle like sometimes. At least the shape of them
Had anybody tried to throw some of them over a cliff?
What cliff
Cuz it's like nothing there
Touché
My question:
We have a mural and the crabs that's it and there's this vague thing from the dev bout it's walk cycle
Why is it crab instead of krab?
Why is it whale not wale
Because k is an irrelevant letter. And they already have Krill
Krabs and krills
That does have a nice ring to it
Kwhales would be better
Technically krills isn’t a word
Plural is krill
Ooh. Bringing down the grammar
(Krilled isn’t a word either)
don’t say that
I didn’t said it...
:I wikitionary says both is valid .. dictionary.com says only krill is valid
I. I. You got me there 
There’s also sneep and other words but anyways
Does anyone have a theory on these statues
Back to topic....
And no
But
They look really reallyyy really similar to the old concept of the vault elder
And who knows
It could still represent the vault elder even today
Interesting. I always saw it as a mother figure for some reason. Idk why
They are very prominent in eden :I so I'm wondering if that's like a symbol of it
Like a symbol of megabird
Literally giving light bc Eden is where that beam of light is
Coincidence coincidence the vault elder is nicknamed and interpreted as a mother figure
It also reminds me of the vault cutscene of how the elder was in her knees giving you the diamond
And then that diamond just flies away
Jus like how she offers the hearts, candles, fire source etc
So what do u think of this connection
Only thing that’s missing is the head plate
Well she squints like the vault elder as well
That’s true. I wonder if the vault people went and built those everywhere to protect themselves. Or maybe as a means of transportation like we use it for
So my theory is that it’s the symbol of the vault elder giving something
Maybe the vault ppl built home
Or offering
I think it's megabird there are many of them leading up to eden
Megabird is the vault elder now
K...
Such a cluster may imply the significance of the place
Also makes sense
Its like personification
We see it mythology we like bestowing human attributes to inhuman things
Megabird is vault elder confirmed
The circle might represent a face
Lmao
It’s a face
Or it's a mask
Still. Face
Lol the face is bulging out
Desktop with an a
It’s nice. Classy
Autocorrect doesn't believe u exist
I am merely a being of the void
LMAO
OBJECTION
Nah I like wheres this going XD
I'd like to pose the Idea of Knowledge is next to Godliness
Wut
Whaaaaaaaat??
Ok. And that applies to this conversation how?
Bean u were off topic earlier so....
I mean think about what would happen if you were to devote an entire vault and citadel to gather the knowledge of the realm.
Yeah ik. I need to get better at that
You'd get pretty darn close to the truth right?????
Ye it makes sense why all the elders gather at vault cuz they are all history
What are we talking about?
Read
I’m really lost
Read more
I think valley is more about invention and vault is more with collection?
Hmmm I could’ve sworn ur name was highly hierophant
What if they r like rivals :0
It was she changed it
Isn’t rlly a citadel at all
Whatver citadel sounds coool
Well
What if Elders are like demigods for the mother bird. If we interpret skykids as a natural cleansing force ( in order to renew a broken and dead world ) we can assume that the elders would know about the children's coming
Whispers: cuz they messed up big time
It’s main purpose is the armillary spheres, and those spheres were used by the scholars to study the sky
In other words, vault people
Remember how vault shows stars what if they are like actually maps :/
Heh
What if Elders are like demigods for the mother bird. If we interpret skykids as a natural cleansing force ( in order to renew a broken and dead world ) we can assume that the elders would know about the children's coming
@undone steppe I agree with those comparisons
They are more.....symbolic murals then maps
Yeaaah. So the citadel is an information gathering place. Maybe they study orbit and megabird there
Yes. Exactly. Vally and Vault are the closest to wasteland we'll get, so we can assume that wasteland used to value science
Imo its more about innovation
In-beetwen doesn’t means that it is similar
Wasteland is something totally different
But if would be influenced by its neighbors in some way
They are more.....symbolic murals then maps
@sly kestrel ye but they can visualize stars
Industrial war zone
Industry, a fortress, a creature habitat etc
That’s not the wasteland...
I was oob and took a screenshot of these many floating diamonds
Wait wrong pic
Uuhhhh
The wasteland is now a wasteland. It used to be the Shores of Manna
Perhaps we can assume that Manna is the continent?
Confidence...
Where’d u get this idea? Did u find something?
Where does that name comes from?!?
The wasteland is now a wasteland. It used to be the Shores of Manna
@undone steppe where did u get manna?
Exactly what I’m asking
I've seen it somewhere, I'm sure
.....
“Somewhere”

:D??
Gimme a hecking moment you hecklrers
lmao
H e c k l e r r i g h t
WHY
I know what manna is but I’m confused how it relates to wasteland
Why would it wear such a random name?
And that is why....we shall wait for Vinde
S Y M B O L I S M
it could’ve been golden shores but not really shores of manna-
I mean they used Eden...
Vinde MiatrixToday at 9:46 PM
a better fate than wasteland, the shores of manna, but it's buried in snow
@Imitation(crab)Pie
Shores of Manna was the name before it was named Wasteland, or Golden Wasteland
@warped reef
Ik just trying to find a hint
See that’s the thing
It was an old name
Prolly from sky light awaits
The entire story was changed
we can’t take old content into account as canon lore, since they’ve been scrapped long ago
Yea I looked it up
It was something from sky light awaits
Fair BUT RELAVANT
i agree with the shores just not the manna part
Oh I have plentyyyy of info heheheh
jay start dumping lmao
Pour it all over us lmao
We should take in Sky as a piece of artwork! And as such, if we're going to analyze i's lore we should also consider a literary veiwpoint!
shdhehhdehd
I think that we can agree on what a bird looks like???
a bird looks like a bird
Yes.. I hope so
But that's jsut it! Who's thinking about a penguin right now?
I think you have lost me
Seems like we all connected it from our own view and our own interpretation and knowledge
But if we make a viewpoint now, no one will remember it and prolly take it into account
i literally just came so same i’m lost again
What I'm trying to say is that the the concept of an item is just another way to veiw that item.
Concept is a debatable word here, especially in the lore chat
With a lot of different perspective
Mainly from the fact that the concepts of this game aren’t current canon
And if we consider that the wasteland had something to do with Manna ( or essence or Mana) we can make some (slight) assumptions towards it's intended ideal
U kno u kinda remind me of hage
Ig to know if it's not totally scrapped
Maybe I'm becoming too abstract
I don’t make the link beetwen the two things
Well if there’s the SLIGHTest chance that the name shores of manna relates to current canon
I don’t think it will help much with the story
It's been a while since I last shared a theory but I have no new juicy ideas at the moment 
The wasteland doesn’t seem like a shore...
I'm just trying to defend the idea of analyzing concept art to use a lens to speculate theory
NO WAIT YOU"RE RIGHT
Concept art theorizing isn’t that much effective
Trade outpost?
do you think that the clouds we fly over in the valley to wasteland ( or valley to forest) conceal an ocean????
Concept art is good for understanding the canon stuff related to it
gives a different point of view lolol
Where's the map
It looks like a wasteland
Concept art is good for understanding the canon stuff related to it
gives a different point of view lolol
@heady sinew
Well it wasn’t always a wasteland
It definitely is now
And concept art doesn’t much show what it was like before a wasteland
yeah
Yeah, sadly 
We were jus given slight history but like I said earlier
This was concept art
I used to recreate fortresses from Breath of the wild in art form maybe we could start trying that?
I mean back then, golden wasteland was concepted to be a fortress to fight the light creatures that got in the King’s way
That’s sad.
That's epic
Yea he was a jerk
Oof, power hungry much
No he was an idol
There was different king concepts so
teth made him a jerk smh
Yeah, sounds like he went through a lot of different phases
Ok point is
Concept art isn’t reliable for the current story
It’s more of eye candy
Something cool to look at
Yus
Indeed
Okay but.... Take some of the constants in his design and find the sum
Rip interesting mysteries
Also last light quest for the Ark is definetely gonna be fire
Idk maybe he did an outlier
But, I do see your point Vinde. We can use it to see what they were thinking when they started and use that to look at what we have now
Like this timeline
Anyone interested in lore would love this backstory timeline
If the Ark burns down I cry
That's a bit small
'SeVeRaL pEoPlE aRe TyPiNg...'
That’s why u zoom in
I love waking you all up
Skymii made it to where it won’t lose its pixels when u zoom in
tbh I sent that timeline jus for vinde to read but ANYWAYS
Why is this not pinned?
everytime i look at that i always think of industrial revolution
Ahhhhh
well it’s pinned per se but it’s in a website
It’s not the actual story anymore. Unfortunately
Sad
Yea
tom zhao’s website has all the concept art oof
And from reading that u will kno that the king rlly was a jerk
yeah
Actually In the timeline
All is a matter of perspective...

Cursed
Woa
That timeline is awesome but the dark matter is kinda feels bland to me
Isn’t that giving up your identity?
Like technology vs nature...
he became the storm in the concept timeline right?
ah right mixed it up with something else lmao
The "built ark because they knew creatures would be reluctanct to follow" has me like 👁️ 👄 👁️
It’s a TRAP 😭😭
?
(reading the backstory that's not really a canon backstory but it's something)
Ah
Ye
Again this
Anyway, Forgotten Ark, what could it possibly need fire for?? I saw some lanterns but if that is all there is to it then 👁️👄👁️ bruh.
Henlo Jay!
I have no clue what will happen but if the Ark burns down to a crisp then that would fit my standards of "impactful"
Why would we think it needs fire?
Idk, last orb quest is fire because we didn't get it yet so it's obvious. I'm wondering what are we gonna restore with it 
After you get the purple orb there are some lanterns (like the ones you find at vault) so maybe those light up. Or maybe something else happens
Two orbs???
Omgg,,,,
Maybe its just a heart
Ok so, fire orb, and Master Orb lol?
The questgiver is prob the last spirit to use the last orb quest
bcz there's only six, maybe the seventh is the ending cutscene
There is 6 spirits in the ark
And weirdly 6 questions marks
technically it’s an orb for each spirit...
Why are we discussing that in lore chat anyways?
Thought it seemed a bit fitting since it's Ark lore? Point is, I have no clue what the fire orb might restore. Guess we'll gotta wait
I wonder what the Krill is doing up at the entrance's mountains tho
Clearing all this darkness
I wonder what the Krill is doing up at the entrance's mountains tho
@heady sinew guarding a seecret room?
Who knows

Maybe chasing butterflies too
It doesn’t NEED fire
They jus wanted it for their quest of seeking prosperity
Jus like the other lights
Forest, wasteland, and vault
GEOgRaPHIcALlY
Isle is at the far beaches and this connects to the sunny green hills of praire, thenn, this connects to a lower level of land where hidden forest is, the high trees and low level of ground make it impossible to be able to see the mountain, after forest we go up above the clouds to a higher setting. This is where we enter valley. It’s cold, has mountains and is the peak of civilization. Ice and snow covers this place and my guess is that this is caused by the high altitude and natural coldness. At the end of the valley temple we are almost at close contact with the mountain but with no straight path, we go under and based on how far we travel, it’s safe to say that golden wasteland is under the enormous mountain. We then arrive at vault and this is at the center of the mountain, after we go up to the top, we then reach eden
Kinda went to far but I jus wanted to explain a clear view of the sky world and boop I also wanted to answer ur question as to why we can’t see the mountain in forest and vault
I did
Forest is at a low setting of ground
And below a lot of clouds
The mountain is visible above the clouds
Wasteland
Is under the mountain
Vault is in the mountain, leads to the summit
OHHH
It’s psychic
Well based on my knowledge it’s psychic
Ig u could say it’s sort of related to the illusion element
But
Different
Tbh it’s kinda hard to explain in words
Sort of like that yea
And I noticed something too, if u exit the ark and go back, the tents sort of have a magic animation that makes it appear
It’s not entirely real but....it gives a physical form
Wait wait wait
I’m hearing a lot of talks out elements here
Are the spirits really connected to the elements then?
I’m sorry I’m just thinking a lot about the avatar right now
Ah yes, purple, the tent element
Hello
Ahem back to business, does anyone have any theories about the ark now?
Like maybe it’s already talked about up up there, but I didn’t see it so 😑
I really thought it was gonna get repaired and fly away but I guess people live there now?
There’s no beds tho
I’m pretty sure some big brained people can figure out how the spirits work now that we’ve got scenery
Maybe they slept in the sand?
Like see one of them is pretty good friends with crabbis right?
So maybe they slept with the crabs
Wasn’t there like a farm where the red light is
Yeah!
No maybe it was a pond idk
Well agriculture=human life
I bet that crab emote guy was vegan
Spirits are dead tho
Wel... yes but they’3 not humans
They’re spirits
Like I know what I meant was that I don’t think they were humans to begin with
Well they didn’t starve they had a farm and somehow had enough resources to build tents and lantern
Not humans specifically but yes
They weren’t always spirits
they weren’t spirits their entire lives so they could’ve been human or at least humnaoid 
Maybe they brought the t4nts with them
they weren’t spirits their entire lives
@drifting copper
they do have human characteristics and kinda have some similar traits so that’s why i said at least humanoid sjdhdhhd
think your sentence thrice sjhdsjhd
What I meant was that I don't think they're exactly human as in you and me human
Yeah people have been telling me to think before I type/talk
Yeah aren’t turbans also used by merchants that contain items and a blanket
I haven't been listening very well apparently 
Who knows they could be a race called dkebwkf
So I wouldn’t consider them exactly as human, even tho they have a body shaped like one
But you know how the ship overturned and basically everyone went boom boom?
Where was it going in the first place
Actually we have seen child spirits
Where the heck would the ark want to go
Erm, I dunno
They were seeking prosperity
There's a theory that the spirits were seaking prosperity
Before the golden wasteland became a wasteland?
Mmhmm what Jay said
yeah before golden wasteland became a wasteland
What do you think golden wasteland was called before it was golden wasteland?
Golden...land
Travelers using the orbs for restoration
So they were prolly headed somewhere where they can.....u kno, restore
No
Jus golden
Oh hmmm
Can they restore marriages
Also I have reason to believe that the ppl on the ark existed during the time when wasteland was still a wasteland
Do we know where the bow of the ark is
The bow?
The front
Hmm
Hey! If the spirits are you know, more adult, are the winged lights the children that died?
I'm not familiar with ships tho so don't take my word for it
I've always just assumed that was the bow because why would a little kid be standing at the very back of the ship?
I’m kinda familiar with sailboats/yachts...not arks
He, never will be familiar never will be
I just sort of ride on it and not question anythin
Until you know, we flip
Then I start questioning life
We all kno they got stuck on that desert area and when the shrug emote spirit was in the cave, he was using his power to try to cure the water, indicating that the water was corrupted. Also there was a krill, and crabs were also present during their time
Sorry for late response
@drowsy spoke holaaa that might be true but I remember that in the Valley there was a mother Spirit with her child... And the Child wasn't with her so your theory might be true
Also the winged lights aren’t related to the spirits in any way
Can the winged lights just sit down their necks would be killing them if they had a nervous system
I always thought that was her friend or her (cough cough) gooood friend (wink wink)
The one that sells you the long pants ahah
Wait
Not a veteran, this one. A butterfly, this one is
At least we haven’t seen any child spirits yet
@narrow siren
There has been child spirits seen, there’s the wide stance’s memory showing the kid on her shoulders, and the 3 kids from the season of belonging
Oh nooooo
AH THAT! yes
Wdym oh no
U got a problem with kids?
Ahaha
Poor kids
What are u talking about
:[
Death never spare anyone guys, we can feel sorry as we want but sometimes we can't change some things
Death doesn't discriminate
But we can avoid it sometimes
Between the sinners and the saints, it takes and it takes and it take
Well yeah they’re aready dead but you can still have empathy for a memory/corpse
BUT WE KEEP LIVING ANYWAY
Yess
Omg
Jus bc we’ve seen kid spirits
Doesn’t mean they died as kids
It’s jus a part of their memory
They could’ve grown to be a soldier or something
(Something) and if there’s a reason I’m still alive and so many have died, I’m willing to wait for it
Ah ok
What did they fight against in Sky
Krill?
No wait
Yeah what did they even fight
...then who won
According to my theories and my knowledge
Either one could’ve won the battle at wasteland
Ooo ok
And also speculation
There are no bombs in sky
There's industrialism tho
There kind of is a sign of an explosion
Doesn’t mean they made bombs
I know
It’s totally random to jus add bombs in sky
I personally support the theory that a storm blew over wasteland
Pretty sure it would’ve been obvious if bombs were used
The eden explosion I believe tho
Hey totoro
Where’d u get the idea that they fought darkness and fear
Jus wondering
Erm I dunno
damn
I don't have a source actually
Alrightyyyy
Jus wonderin
I just saw the concepts about the king, and the falling red rocks of HELL
and I just thought "yep that's darkness and fear alright"
yeah I know
On the butterflies lifting boats, maybe it is like light in our world...
If you have a torch, it won't burn anything, but using a magnifying glass you can use the same amount if light focused on a point to make a fire.
Maybe that is how the power diamonds work, by focusing the power of light to a specific point, such as the movement of the paddles.
We also theotized that the diamonds aren't only made from light, there is other raw materials too, so possibly that's where the trees are used.
Hello, did someone create a file with the whole story of this wonderful game?
@pallid delta there are 2 in the pins, first what has been "confirmed" on streams as what the developers and designers were going for, and a second of the constantly growing speculations, though neither will be entirely "complete"
Oh yeah i'm blind 😅 sorry
Thanks !
Hello, did someone create a file with the whole story of this wonderful game?
@pallid delta
If only it was that easy 😂😂, if we had all that, this chat wouldn’t exist
Wait a minute
Moth 
So. I finished the game again. It only really supports my idea or renewal and rebirth
Skykids are just harnessing all the light to be cleaned
The sun is just beaming it back to the planet
And like most religions, light forgives darkness and they kiss or somethign
They do mention in the office that the different maps represent the different stages of life, and that the final area is death/rebirth.
But that said, its a child of light at the end that you have to help/hug, even when you've lost your own light, and they give you your light/cape back.
So if it's about light forgiving darkness would not the roles be reversed for that scene?
@undone steppe
You know what I think you're right
I think you're partially right given the evidence in the office.
But its interesting for sure.
I feel like skykids being pyschopomps is well known
What do I speculate about next????
wait!!!
That said, when I observe dark/light in the game, the roles of dark/light are interesting.
◇ Darkness spores grow out of containers of stored butterflies.
◇ Skykids are dark and powerless unless filled with light/winged children.
Overall there seems to be a theme of dark eating light.
If the elders are the demigod rulers of the old realm, who oversaw the kingdom of spirits, perhaps the truth is...
In the case of collecting the butterflies it could be that darkness spores are unnatural, and grow as a manifestation of the perverted course of nature?
There seems to be cases of darkness being used for ill/and for good.
Queen Manta is the embodiment of light and all things ethereal. She created the elders ( I do t know why) and the elders created the world out of clouds, but in the process, binding things to the material realm
By queen manta do you mean the megabird?
Mamabirb yes
Spirits were born, whom rivaled the elders with magic and technology
Death, betrayal, destruction etc
And now, despite the bloodshed the material world costs, megabird forgives alll by sending sky children to cleanse.
Sorry if I sound like a broken record
The elders created things out of clouds, other than the fact the landscape seems to grow out of clouds do you have anything else to support your hypothesis of elders creating things out of clouds? And that spirits attacked the elders?
There doesn't really appear to be evidence of strife between elders and spirits. Especially considering the fact that in order to put the spirits at rest you have to visit the statue of the elder of that respective realm.
If I were a spirit, I don't think visiting a statue of my enemy would put me at rest.
Personal misgivings aside, before you send the spirits away, they kneel at the statue of the elder as if waiting to be released (which they are).
Fair I guesssss....
I really need to work on my evidence gathering
So megabird is the light
God is non-binary
You are forgiven
Could I have your input as to what I said earlier?
Goodnight
yay
Wait one moment
About darkness/light?
I think it's the same
There's a tale from gnostism that describes an angel, send from heaven into the world of an imperfect God.
The child forgets heaven in place of it's earthly delights and is stuck there until it can swim to the bottom of a lake and rest the pearl of wisdom from a serpant
When you are under a lake. Or in the dark, you will cling to any light you can find.
That happens a lot in sky
Darkness is the literal absense of god
The winged lights have to be invited in though. They aren't simply taken. There is a hand icon to invite them in.
Also there is the scene at the end where you (dark powerless child), have to forgive the light at the end.
Megaburb
Hmmmm
If anything it seems that the winged lights are looking for a home.
Or for comfort/companionship.
Well it seems like you're relying on the light to hug you by opening you arms
I'm wondering who are the fallen ones
It takes two to hug
there were other sky kids before us?
Exactly. We have to go towards them.
Then we help them up.
Then we hug them, and we can both leave that place.
Darkness binds things
Have you noticed that you can't hold hands as you fly into orbit
Anyway. I think I will leave you two to it. Thank you for the discussion.
maybe you don't need to hold hands there
It was very productive and fun.
Hm
I feel like it's because you're pure light,

Hitting things while you're pure light doesn't hurt you
So I assume it is the body that is weak and not the soul
What if those sky kids were us from the past, but they failed their mission? Which is why some sky kids are reborn to save the fallen, for them to either forever stay in orbit or continue their mission
we should try to lose light in orbit
Good luck and goodnight

then why our spirits follow other sky kids until they die too
why don't we just go straight to the light
oh we are actually clean right before we die
all the darkness goes away
Wasteland daddy,and forest sista
At least that's what i call them for now

Isle ah gong (grandpa), i may call him this
You can’t hold hands as you fly up the light into the Eden area that leads to orbit, but you can hold hands once you reach that area. My friends and I have held hands the entire way to orbit before
Like right after you hug the kid, you can’t hold hands, but you can hold hands once you’ve gone up and rejoined your friends. It’s a little difficult, but it’s definitely doable
Can I ask something?
What's megabird? I've seen you talk about this, but I've never heard about it
This is the megabird
burb
What's the lore seekers believe so far,megabird is the creator of skykid, possibly the narrator during the first cut scene when you enter sky, and also entity that we fly to at orbit to be reborn
wow that's so cool
Megabird was an old concept, and the current debate is whether or not it actually made its way into the game we have
I personally think so, but the lore is kind of vague (if there is any at all)
Definitely check out the concept art in the pins! Megabird plays a much larger role in the concepts
I just found some of that art, it's so good!
it would be really nice if they would expand the lore a bit in future updates
I love it so much! The new area looks gorgeous and the paintings on the ark and in the maze are zo nice
I wonder what the time cycle of the sky kingdom is
Ark area start to look like marketplace. We see spirits raising up tents. One of them is reading book/manual?
Is it possible this to become place for item trade? TGC never confirmed we can buy or exchange items between players. Still is it possible to have trades in the Ark?
that'd be really cool! But i'm not sure what you'd trade
Tent colors are the same as flower colors— purple and saffron-yellow were historically “royal” colors in different parts of the world because of dyestuff issues, though not always made from plants. frex Mediterranean royal purple was made from shellfish (tho not crabs); Japanese purple (murasaki) was from gromwell root
Anyone else thinking what I’m thinking
The mega bird does seem to pull us towards it in Eden along with all the spirits
And sky kids are attracted to light
There is also this force in space called a repeller which could be like the darkness
I GOT ON CAMERA THE KRILL THING
@desert sun @noble sandal I believe the Nest in praire recharges capes when not around anything because there's "ambient light" (so long as you're within a certain area, even if you're not around birds or mantas or candles your cape recharges)
This ambient light + the name of the area + a little bit of lore in one of the TGC videos leads me to believe that the ambient light in the nest creates new creatures of light
As for the citadel in Valley, the effect appears to be centralised on the largest armillary sphere, I think this area may have been like the nest (a location that generates ambient/extra light) and that light is being used to power the armillary spheres rotation/scientific powers, or maybe it's the reverse or something else entirely
It krilled the mantas behind
@hushed steeple @unreal wind @steep coyote winged light don't want to be free, they're just shadows/imprints left behind by "the child of light" whoever that is, the prince or the king or the megabird or something
@carmine saffron It’s the second time that happens
I touch it and it does nothig
@drifting copper the intro seems to imply that each of the elders (aka the stars that fell) went straight to each of the different realms instead of going to first eden and then each of the realms
@sly kestrel I suggest next time a dev is online in #lore-discussion-spoilers we ask if "But darkness blinds, so I cast them away" is still canon as I think we'll actually get an answer
I'm pinging you cause you appear to be online when the devs are and I never am 

ooh, blinds?
That is on way back, when on beta, the text is diffrent now
It krilled the mantas behind
@carmine saffron ermm as i see it, you're aaaallllmost touch it and then fly up
Oh...thats because there wind on it
Like with barriers
Anyways You can touch it if you fly to it after he gets out of the water
*there is
Yeah
also, they just love holding hands
like, they dont need a reason to
they just hold hands sometimes when they're bored
and like, cute stuff is written in their dna
this is all speculation tho
I assumed sky children were born from candles 😅
Their uh.... wax...n...a
Oh no that means their hands would be all waxy and sticky...
maybe that's how they're able to hold on so well
Does anybody know where I can find concept art for the prince?
I could only find 1 picture in the pinned comments
@fading bear If you mean the King there is wall drawing inside Elders room on top of Vault. Also lot of images of King on top of Eden in concept art: https://www.tomzhao.com/sky1
There’s the prince found in concepts as well
I'm pinging you cause you appear to be online when the devs are and I never am
@hollow pier
😳, nOpe
Ash said hi, she went away for a while and then ash came back, but then I had to go away for a while. So I couldn’t ask any questions rlly, I haven’t got something from them in a while
thanks :)
Good morning everyone, Mochi When you say prairie manta are you also referring to the ones in the birds nest or just the ones at the bell towers?
@/Azaura#7439 Before I answered "both", but today I noticed that smaller mantas in the bell towers, which appeared after lighting 2 towers, were valley-type.
In forest temple, the diamond case on the sunny side is patterned but the one on dark plant is not— have been meaning to compare case pattern to spire pattern to citadel oob bridge pattern
It’s the same, they all have that gold pattern
I always wondered if telekinesis could be used on more than just a door 
Also,
Ark catapult
It had defensive capabilities
Against Krills maybe?
Maybe
I don't know though.
If I was stranded I would repurpose a catapult
Why is it under water? Did they try to fish it out? Or did it just happen to sink there with time
Physics would say if it sunk there, it wasn't mounted ontoo of the ship
So they took it off the ship and pointed it to the krill mountain.
I pose that they expected the krill to follow them. But only weeks after they arrived
The smarter krills look for you now, following you and checking crevices
My guess is that the catapult was there before the ark crashed
Going by my theory that the enchantment spirits lived while wasteland was still a wasteland
That catapult must’ve been there for a long time, prolly from an old battle, theres boats scattered around the area so it’s safe to say they weren’t the first ones to discover that area
Actually now that I think about it.....
Krills seem to be present in significant areas. They don’t jus wander everywhere. There’s a krill at the diamond press, 3 at the creature slaughter (graveyard), 1 directly above the cargo ship, 3 at the wasteland cathedral and 1 at the entrance of the hidden island
also the eden krills, however you want to describe their habitats
Hidden island? I. The forest orrrr?
Ah, you mean the ark
Idk I think that the catapult came with the ark cause if it wasn't the first thing I'd do is fish that sucker out and use it like a water fountain or something
Liek some dev has to think "would the ark area have a catapult.... Yeah... It really should.
I think this painting could explain all of the other boats in the area
There were a lot of little boats who flew together with the ark
The only catapult in operation is inside Graveyard. It basically shoot you in krill mouth. Maybe this will also work. There is krill flying nearby. Also the Ark is broken in pieces. Catapult may been inside and fell when lightning strike and turned it over.
Also, a little bit off topic, but is it raining in the ark area?
It sounds like it is, but not like in the forest
Also, a little bit off topic, but is it raining in the ark area?
@fading bear nope
oof
Anyone else notice how anywhere there is industrialization e.g. wasteland & eden as evidenced by the pipes it always is a disaster zone? Also if you get up close to the krills you can hear a mechanical sound, which also might tie into the industrialization of those zones. Also, if you fly behind a krill, there is black dust falling off of it, maybe this is showing how krills are attracted to industrialization or just a large gathering of skykids?
I found some concept art for what looks like a Krill. Apparently they were originally made to be able to die after being corrupted. It looks like the one that’s dying in the picture with the mantas was crawling towards the light, maybe to try to save itself
Maybe they attack us because they need the light or else they’ll die?
We can’t consider art as canon
but we can use the concepts presented to further our theories as to what happened
because we dont have much to go off in the first place
Ok point is
Concept art isn’t reliable for the current story
It’s more of eye candy
Something cool to look at
@sly kestrel
You can totally use concept art to connect the dots of what’s going on
Concept art may not be exactly what’s in the game right now
But there are still parts that have made it in
You just gotta analyze and see which parts those are 👀
Yeah...
Well krill appear to need light, but they don’t take it, since it always goes back...
They're able to get light from mantas though-- maybe we're just a bit more durable?
Yesterday
And I said concepts aren’t reliable bc it’s hard to differentiate which is canon and which is jus a scrapped idea. Like the battle with the creatures, who knows that could’ve happened in the current story as it was said in the concepts
All I know is that they are simply old ideas that were made when developing the game, and there’s no way of rlly telling if it can still help us
Does anyone have a theory on the forest door
Blue diamonds are stone and the yellow ones are light?
Why's the diamonds in the place where it looks like a tree design
Oh wow I didn’t notice the trees before!
So the trees do have branches XD
Oh yes!
Omg this is amazing!
It looks like the trees hold the temple
Maybe they’re the power source? Although we hav egg diamonds
The boat designs are slightly different
Hmm
...Interesting, the diamonds from the trees once the trees "break" and the diamonds from the bottles on the boats seem to power the temple?
They don’t looks like the boats in ark
Remember it's the door to the temple there's the diamond press
The boats in the air have two arching ends the boats below them only have one
The boats looks similar to the ones in island
Perhaps energy/power/fuel to make diamonds is harvested from both butterflies and trees?
B O A T S
Hmm we've assumed that power dimaonds are made of stone
What does the elder cutscene show?
They sound like pots
(The diamonds)
When you step on big diamond in the observatory
It sounds like a pot
(I was talking about the boats drawing in the front door of the island’s temple)
Ik I'm trying to find the right boat it fit design
Prarie vaguely looks like the boats near the top
Blue diamonds are stone and the yellow ones are light?
@plush moon maybe the diamonds are made from the trees since the trees rotate as if they were felled... and we can see fallen trees through the forest...
and there's a memory that a elder cuts a tree
There are
What diagram?
uhh
Wth I thought it was stone
concept art
And the boat in the island temple’s door?
I guess there's no wood in the sky world... even the trees are made from stones
XD
Why there would be no wood?
i'm not sure... the trees looks like stones
why did a civilization make stone boats if there's wood? hahah
Ugh there are actually different prairie boats
So yeah the boat in the underground pond thing looks like the lower boats most
Idk about the upper ones
Does anyone have a theory on the forest door
@plush moon
I thought I told u the story behind it..
We need a new archive
I knew u never listened 😑
Wut I just legit don't remember ;-;
I'm just fact checking the boats :I
Pots of light plus the material at forest is combined at the factory and this is what produces the power diamonds
We just need a new archive to store all those idea bc we are just repeating the same ideas over and over
Why wouldn’t i do it: bc i don’t have the patience to do so
And that’s exactly why I have a copy and pasted version of my explanation on diamond production
Did u check the boats already
Now that I think about it the whale cave is like a butterfly sanctuary where pots of em are disposed
whale cave is the underground forest?
Maybe Eye of Eden was a source of energy which was used to harness darkness but one day something happened and the entire realms were covered by darkness
The giant bones in wasteland, do y’all think those are whales, perhaps really old and large when they died or are they some other sort of animal? The skulls remind me of the whale but they just seem so much bigger
Hi guys, I'm exploring the areas now and idea came to me. I was thinking of recording every single piece of evidence I could and making a blog with photo evidence detailing what happened to the kingdom of sky. Do you think that would be interesting? Its just that this chat moves so fast its hard to keep track sometimes.
@neon mirage If those skulls are bigger than the whales its possible we haven't seen those creatures yet. However we haven't really gotten a chance to see whales up close so its not like we can get an idea of how big their heads are in comparison to the skulls.
There’s a whale skeleton in forest that I’m using for size reference
Ah I know that one.
Its true though the stuff in wasteland seems bigger but perhaps the whales weren't all one size? If they aren't whales its something we haven't seen yet.
Sorry to not be of much help. Its a really good find.
That’s ok! I was just wondering if anyone knew what the bones were
Yeah I don’t think all whales are the same size
The whale we see in forest/wasteland/orbit is way bigger than that skeleton
So possibly a really old whale then
But the skeleton is definitely a whale!
Valid point, it's probably just bigger whales then. Perhaps over time the people of sky became cockier and more ambitious.
Going after bigger and possibly more sacred sources of light.
Poor whales ): I wonder why there isn’t more art of them if they were such a good source of light
I can look and see.
But I really want to make a blog cataloging everything in game tbh
And trying to link it all together.
The whales are something I didnt think about.
But I'd love to look for more evidence in world.
That’s a cool idea!
@neon mirage I like ur username and profile pic :))
Is that might be a residence place?
I took it at the valley race track
Hmmm
Why is ur piano flipped at the wrong side 🤔
The flower
No wayyy
Flowers can defy physics now 
Do you know why some spirits have capes, and others don’t?
Wahaha you should see what flower does to horn
Oh noo
Imma spin around smack that poor moth inna face
Meanwhile it occurs to me that the composite diamond in forest temple door literally represents forest aunt’s ceiling fan
What if Sky is close to Life itself..
Flower does that because you get xylophone with it. You're carrying an invisible xylophone under your horn 😂
I hope we get to keep the invisible xylophone with any upcoming flower fixes 🍀
pretty sure 0.9.4 fixed all the flower accessory related bugs so the xylophone’s gone
god i hate those legs at the back
The whale sir is a bit spooky! But man I just?? I really love all the concept art I've seen for sky- it's so good!
Oh yea!!!
AHHH I THOUGHT THE SAME TOO
Where can I find more concept art for sky? :o I honestly really wanna just go through some of it in awe
Pinned messages
The concept arts by Tom Zhao are the best ones in my opinion
But we got a wholleeee library in the pins
Have fun !!
Okay! Thank you!!💖💖
I also think that toothy boi concept looks a bit like No Face from Spirited Away! The devs did confirm some of them are Ghibli fans so it makes sence 
oooooo no wonder it reminded of that
we’re sharing braincells
“We are all one, and one is us all”
-narrator
Anyone has a clearer picture of this? I'm trying so hard to read it
Hey does anyone know what the constellation circles in Prairie are for (ik the middle one is for the mantas bc it lights up but the rest do nothing).
I'm not even sure if this is the right channel to ask in
Or if y'all have already talked about it I didn't see
I gotchu hyde
One of the coolest backstories you will ever read
It’s a scrapped concept idea of the story
But it’s still cool to read tho
If it looks blurry jus wait about 5 seconds, it should be clear to read
Jay how was the sandwich you made yesterday
Hmmm
Why is ur piano flipped at the wrong side 🤔
@sly kestrel
I did meet a person with his chair (table) flipped inside his body instead of upside down bcs of the flower😂😂
But..
Can someone answer my questions 😅
It was amazing ash
It was
Amazing
And my bad tuna prince 😂
From what I got, those were kinda like slum
@sly kestrel thank you!
Just curious but what is the story of the crying spirit?
Huge story
This girl and her friends were in a cave, as the memory goes, an accident happened causing rocks to collapse on her friends
Her and her other friend had a struggle trying to get them out...but they sadly died. Time past and eventually the crying spirit made graves for her dead friends. Time passes even more and her last friend dies
At the last scene of her memory she has graves of all her passed friends set up, and then finally she sits down........and weeps

Tbh they seem like miners
That’s what I said too
There’s a trail of broken trees where the whale crashed
And a broken building obviously but it’s safe to say that the whale’s fall caused a huge impact on the ground most likely causing the rocks at the cave to collapse
Is the timeline canon?
Hey guys
I think skykids are hollow
I mean this could have been talked about before when I wasn't here but just now I was going oob and was stuck at a place
Long story short, I was able to loook into myself and there really isn't anything there...?
Just our little chest diamond thing, our hair and our skin\
so do you think that skykids are hollow? But if they are hollow what kind of material could they be to be able to withstand falling from like fifty stories up?
so do you think that skykids are hollow? But if they are hollow what kind of material could they be to be able to withstand falling from like fifty stories up?
@drowsy spoke Clear TPU like those phone case
😉
Haha yeah
And my bad tuna prince 😂
From what I got, those were kinda like slum
@sly kestrel
Ouhh.... i thought it was residence since the valley is the peak of civilization
Or... is that an old canon?🤔
I feel like the vault lady was the only one that kindly accepted our light
Like the valley twins played catch with it
the forest lady snatched it
the wasteland dude.... I don't know took it with his staff thingy
And I don't remember much about prairie and isle
But the vault lady just kindly accepted it form us and man thank you!
Isle granpa also accept the light kindly
He embraced it before use the light to lead the birds
I just noticed, in the ark, I associated the lightseekers with hidden forest, mostly because of the vertical lines looking like the trees represented in other murals, but now I notice the things they are holding (possibly umbrella) also look similar to the hammer in the forest constellation. Not necessarily a lore point, but interesting connection.
Can anyone explain to me what is the story with the big bones that you can find in the vault and forest?
I just noticed, in the ark, I associated the lightseekers with hidden forest, mostly because of the vertical lines looking like the trees represented in other murals, but now I notice the things they are holding (possibly umbrella) also look similar to the hammer in the forest constellation. Not necessarily a lore point, but interesting connection.
@cobalt palm this ties in with what @plush moon posted with their findings on the temple door in Forest (I had noticed this too and came here to see if anyone else picked up on it)
Idk if anyone has mentioned this already (sorry, too far to scroll back), but it seems that the object “harvested” from the trees (?) were turned into the spells we use now. Displayed are the Fireworks, Campfire, and Resize potions.
I’m guessing this season’s emblem is a boat carrying a spell.
Is the timeline canon?
@sweet dirge
No
I think the vertical lines on the ark mural are rain
and if you see the whole murals on the ark the light is obviously coming from above, not from the trees
They show a story of each place i think
Has someone got a picture of the king/prince of eden mountain?
I cant find one of him was he in isle?
Mural
I know you guys don’t look into the spirits backstories but— I think the hide-and-seek spirit was an expecting mother. I’m thinking this because in previous convos, we were talking about why that spirit gives us the chibi mask and that’s because she wanted us to be her child(?). Plus she was playing the game with her supposed partner.. so something to think about
Wow
It’s weird but maybe she was just messing around with her partner and was in the early stages of her pregnancy.
Plus she’s the tallest. That indicated she was also a fully grown adult
I thought she was jusf childish, maybe we should pay her a visit as a chibi
Yeah
Her story is so cute but so sad because she didn’t see that tragedy happening to the entire civilization
I agree with u Sabriath, about the orbs turned into spells. And also it looks like these orbs are really safe to be used by children (the smol person there that uses a firework spell).
@hushed steeple and if you notice in this picture, the storm caused the spirits to crash/capsize, and yet the spells/orbs remain in the ship. (This is why I secretly think that we may be able to buy/collect spells here in the future, not to mention each spirit require a different coloured light....maybe to make their own specialty spell)
on a quest to find the booty
I agree with that! Ktjn did confirm that the ark and the find the light quests in this area are not tied to the season of enchantment and will stay as a permanent fixture even after the season is over. It is most probably a milestone feature that once completed enables us to farm and collect resources on the map in order to brew and create our own potions
I hope this will be a possibility because the spells available through the travelling spirits aren’t cutting it for me anymore. if i could brew one resize potion every week I’d be set

@mossy bay ikr! The little “farm” on the other side is getting my hopes up 
Also, the fact that those last two spells were updated with a new look when the season started 🤔
Also, anyone else draw on any similarities between these? Or is it just my imagination?
The lines drawn through the jars seem like they could be the lines in the music sheets? There are six uniques patterns for the sheets, and six shelves of jars...idk maybe just reaching 🤔
Edit: picture credit to @drowsy spoke who posted above
@sick path do u think this may relate to how the instruments have a special symbol, resembling a fallen star or the eden star
Also, anyone else draw on any similarities between these? Or is it just my imagination?
@sick path the devs said i forgot his name, imma chck later, in ancient text or drawing, straight line signify abundance or a lot, as in many, so instead of drawing a lot of jar or people, a straight line is represented as a lot or many
He kinda wanna say that the line on the drawing is reference to that
I mean but the shelves we see of the power diamond lanterns showed them lined up perfectly like in the mural, so the abundance logic doesn't make as sense for me. Plus, why are the lines different why not just straight lines? @pearl void
@sick path the devs said i forgot his name, imma chck later, in ancient text or drawing, straight line signify abundance or a lot, as in many, so instead of drawing a lot of jar or people, a straight line is represented as a lot or many
@King.#7185 ahhh I see, that makes sense!
What are those
The description of the orb said it was knowledge
I don't see any knowledge in cloth things?
So this is my personal interpretation of the squiggly constellation lines on the group of figures at the bottom: it's meant by ancient sky artisans as a way to simply symbolize that there's crowds of people. The same way a constellation=a grouping of stars, having a collection of figures connected by the constellation lines=a large grouping of people. If that makes sense!
You'll also find real world artists of ancient history would find ways to simply signify groupings of things. Instead of having to paint/carve/draw/chisel every single one, they could just draw a few instead to symbolize 'the many'.
Ahh it's by Ash
Ye that makes sense now XD
This door to Eden has that diamond symbol, just like out skykids chest... Didn't we think that there were warring factions with the symbols?
( sorry, it's hard to see
Whats lore??
i think of lore as the story of the world
These stacked rocks are to represent the people that died in the cave with them 😭🤧
Because they were trapped in the rocks and they couldn't get them out
dr phil bringing in the feels
its rlly good! i love the theory and tbh angst is my jam 
I also have theories on how some spirits died and all that
ooo what is it? would love to hear them!
Why do some spirits have capes, and others not?
oh yea thats interesting too!
i mean im not a theory aficionado but im also confused why spirits r adults
AHAHAHA nice
uh
It would have been kinda cool if he had the crab call
true true
The spirits in vault, the ones you find along the lift, they got left behind and starved to death
Like the peaceful standing spirit
Oh god that’s dark
oh no 
So sad
gosh thats awful ;w;
Yeah...
o what abt valley spirits?
Yeah
