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Was wasteland fertile at some point? Or did they somehow manage to grow crops there?
By their clothes I would say they managed to grow crops
Because they are all woven fabrics, instead of pressed like all the basic capes?
They definitely seemed experienced with desert-like areas
I mean, there are some dead trees at the start
And maybe even further in the past it was the sea
So that def seems likely
this area is so interesting 
Maybe that tar there was extremely fertile at one point like the Nile river
and then they used it all up or something leaving all the super gross tar stuff
It’s just so interesting to me because it’s the first time we’ve actually seen a farm in this game
The only other thing I’ve seen remotely related to food is good ol’ granny from belonging and her little dinner party
Actually them using up all the water in farming probably has something to do with crabs being so mad
I think crab walk spirit quest has some hints of that pointed out by someone else
Look at the new Cape that's coming
BHDHSHD just imagine 
Gsktwjtw
Is this a lie or is this real?! I need answers 🤣
not real.
Definitely

i would love a hooded cape some day
Omg yesss!!
What if the spirits from enchantments were once a living creature so they need to eat. Unlike thoses in normal constellation
Also, what if the eye of eden is harvesting light energy from the planet and transmitting it elsewhere like to a space station or another planet like FF9 style
well
if you remember
the light orbs are the ones that recreate the murals
which is very interesting
What if sky added this thing where you can costumize your own cape?
are they memory orbs?
.....the red swirl symbol represents illusion and that’s why when u collect it, the spirit was able to use to to reveal the hidden murals on the ark
Cough cough
lightseekers catch the standard light orb, they give it to the vault spirits, the vault spirits "unlock" their power and they give it to the enchanters
they try to go to a different land to restore life but get caught in the storm
are we sure it means illusion though?
Some ppl looked it up and some others knew it straight off the bat, I forgot how but they said they studied it for a while and explained each meaning of the symbols. I knew it was illusion bc I got it from 4 different sources, it made most sense to me, plus if it was illusion it rlly does tie to the reason why it reveals a mural
then yeah it does
so if that's mural
are we slowly going to restore the forgotten ark area?
oh wait! what if the murals were outright made by 
One of the spirits painted the mural when they crashed, what the orb does is reconstruct the faded mural and highlights it so we can see it
Orb lore talk is hard bc I already kno what the other lights do but I can’t say bc it’s a spoiler 
you can tell me in dms
Spoiler tag it? We wanna know!
Don’t u wanna surprise?
lore is more important than surprises
Even if I spoiler tag it, I’m pretty sure I’m not allowed to say it either way
Oh are you talking about from being in beta?
give me knoledg
yeah beta already has all the quests for testing purposes iirc
!spoilers
The community generally agrees that the following things are spoilers:
* Anything after the door to Eye of Eden (but not the word Eden)
* What the 8-player puzzle unlocks
* Anything in the secret level including what it is ||(office)||
* Beta content that is not live or not meant to be accessible (all beta content stays in the beta channels)
all beta content stays in beta channels
Jay!
hi
Hi, please share 🙂
Oh and I’d like to hear everyone’s thoughts on my mural theory, if you don’t mind. It’s a long one!
@dull coral whale
What?
There are about three plants with the orbs in the centre. They may represent flowers or fruiting bodies. However, what I noticed is they got a lot of orange speckles. I don’t seem to recall the other plants having them. They are mostly blue-ish
I’m pretty sure the blueish thing happens when a dark plant is regrown
Normally you see this on the big ones
I don’t mean that regrown big ones. They not glow anymore. I will have a second look.
Maybe I just not been paying attention to orange speckles
morning gang :)
Krill are actually smokey the bear and he is trying to put out all the little fires that keep running around the place
Like when I revisit an area I’ve already burned the plants are blue instead of black
And they shine red-ish depending on how close the candle is or reflecting the player isn’t it?
They were orange before we got near
Just my friend was keen on burning then fast
Consistently reproducible?
I need to get another look. Be at work so it will not be fast
As in it’s like that every. time. You visit?
Initially thought that glow was the ingame mechanics, signifying candle waxes to be collected
Difficult to say. Been few times and they were already burned so just light blobs. But maybe the orange specks are light blob particles
If it is only sometimes like that, it is more likely a graphical bug related to the burning mechanic
Oh yeah. They all have them. Silly me! It just seemed the new ones had more of it.
Though it may have been different subspecies but they are all the same
I literally had a dream that crabs were made by Hades as pets and though I know it's just a dream I don't know how to live with that vision
That's... quite the dream you had. 😯
I think something else is living inside a krill
And krills are just shells
Made up of storm
hmmm....
Like when you turn into stone
You see something dark stuck on your body
I think krill are just whales inside shells
I like that theory, I believe the krills are corrupted whale fish, so the light(their soul) that exists in those whales has become corrupted
this makes it sound a more true theory. We need futher research
Hey
Just wondering, since the seasonal spirits tree will be unlocked more within 4-5 days, will more lore get revealed too later?
or the lore for enchantment is just only what we have now
I think it will be unlocked every 7 days, thus more things to happen, so yeah, probably more lore on each unlock
alright, that's good to know. thanks!
thats a mystery idk
Someone on here once mentioned that the golden wasteland kingdom was once in the clouds and fell to the ground and i like this theory the majority of the structures look like they don’t belong
@cold steppe @hushed steeple @heady wave winged light are imprints of a being called the Child of Light, we know this as canon because there's a video where the devs say this
@zealous summit creatures of light coalesce directly into being from ambient light, there's a live stream (I think it's a live stream) where the devs tell us that we summon the big praire mantas into existence, so I'm fairly sure that they don't need eggs to reproduce
RIGHT I just read two days worth of messages here and now I'm ready to say stuff
Because of the pic Sar posted above, it's not a spoiler to say that the ark has three oars/wings; I think this MIGHT be further evidence that the ark covered in murals is not the bigger ark that has all six orbs of light in it, as that depiction has four wings, but as it's also be pointed out there's a large chunk of the ark missing, so the missing wing could be part of that
EDIT: How many pairs of oars/wings does the small boat that takes us to the ark have?
@mossy bay holy hell I love your idea about these being spells, it also made me realise the figure next to the chibi is only half drawn, and we can interpret this two ways: a) proof that they're using a chibi spell or b) it's a bug because we can see a small line of their leg, I also like your interpretation of where the murals start
If one of the devs see this, could we have confirmation that the half drawn figure isn't a bug?
Why is the Golden Wasteland the only one that has ways to defend itself?
OH YES I also noticed that this ark here with only the tip showing looks like it might be as big as the ark with the murals on it
Related question: how many boats are there in the forgotten ark area
2, and the big one
I’m glad you liked it @hollow pier ! I think the drawing is intentional as if it’s showing the transition from tall to small, I could be wrong though.
There's a small line of pixels that make me think it might be a bug but I hope it's not, because it'd be extra proof that they're spells if it's intentional crosses fingers
The half drawn figure is probably a bug.
This is a pic from beta before there was some update on the ark itself. I am now in the current Ark for observation, and can see that this part of mural layer is really close, but not exactly parallel to the Ark's surface. The half of the figure is probably just buried under the surface of the Ark.
Mother of krills that's annoying
@humble barn What do you think about those orbs being spells? re: Azaura's imgur album
thought they are really plausible!
What about whether the mural covered ark is the large ark we see in the drawing or not? It also occurs to me that the only places we see the poisonous water (other than the winged light cave) are right next to shipwrecks
Missing part of this mural may also be a bug, the left one is old one from beta
I wonder... does the shipwreck have spots for oars/wings?
Definitely a bug and worth reporting
yeah, i actually made this image for bug reporting but never noticed the halved figure beside the kid (or chibi) one. i'd report that one too now
I still think the Ark we see is the largest boat drawn
anchors for large sea vessels can be quite large
but I don't know, does a flying boat needs an anchor?
I guess winds can be just as powerful as tides?
Some people are saying that they can see the megabird in the murals, I can’t see it. Does anyone know where?
that's the intro cutscene for the game
might be a reason they're so close to home, might not!
narrator hiding behind the camera telling you the story 
if anything it's a very pretty sight
Those are umbrellas right?
I wonder... does the shipwreck have spots for oars/wings?
@hollow pier The area was too dark but apparently not.
Though a life boat had those
If you need lighting/help/company, I'm here. Always looking forward to discovering stuff
I see
I wonder why tho? The murals don't have rain in it except falling stars
the second mural shows something like rain
and I think the umbrella and hat are "attributes", something added to describe who those people are.
The mural with the umbrellas and hats, with all the light seekers, I believe the vertical lines are rain
there were diamonds but not for oars
Three cheers for @humble barn the loreseeker!
is it just me or the person next to chibi looks taller than others
if he is taller the magic could also be the resize potion
Here I have a definition of Eden from Meriam-Webster Dictionary. I guess Eden is literally the whole world of Sky (just a theory). The reason it's called "The EYE of Eden" it's just because it's right in the middle of the beautiful areas we've been through. Like it's the center of the world.
H m m
I think that can be true
It looks awfully the opposite though
yeah, and the theory explains that weirdness
the place we call Eden is just an Eye
and the entire kingdom including the beautiful prairie is Eden
Yeah
People still dont know anything about that large unidentified crystal-like object at the last part of the Eden tho
Mochi they def look taller than the others
Eye of Eden before the fall of civilization was probably a huge castle, not a pretty garden, so
Hmm judging the architecture it can be

People still dont know anything about that large unidentified crystal-like object at the last part of the Eden tho
Also, it haaasss many questions
actually we do know about it ronin, there's concept art of eden that shows it was intact once upon a time at the top of a tower, we know it's a dark stone diamond like those that power vault and all the other mechanisms in the game, there was a version of beta that you could oob to the diamond and surrounding it were all the elders frozen midair in an explosion dead
We're fairly certain that it's causing the storm, we know that it's the source of the red rock hail in the last area of eden
we know it's currently broken
uuuuuuhhhhh what else do we know, that might be it
I still don't understand what the intro scene was
And how it connects to the "end" of the game
In retrospect it's definitely causing the storm, because we know that the eden castle was once intact and now it's not because there's a storm destroying it
Ergo the storm wasn't always there
I suppose it could be argued that the storm is what caused the diamond to break, but then what caused the storm and why is it still going
Makes more sense for the storm to be caused by the diamond
Hang on imma watch the intro in yt again
"With the stars united, our light was infinite.
But darkness came, and the stars fell...
Together, the fallen stars made a new home in the clouds.
If only they had listened...
A long time has passed. Now, I call to you.
Wake up, child. Bring our lost stars home."
There's also a variation on that, but I can't find it
I am kinda trying to dig into the "if only they had listened" line
Do you know anything abt it?
yes, the narrator is likely the megabird, the big light in the middle of the stars that fall
And darkness came because the stars/elders fell to the planet
they should have stayed with the megabird where the light was infinite
And darkness came because the stars/elders fell to the planet
@hollow pier I guess it's more on the darkness causing the fall of the stars
"But darkness came, and the stars fell..."
I feel, since the stars being mentioned are elders, that it was darkness entering their minds
or something
like greed
i think the darkness they are referring to is the krills
I do have a theory that krill are space dragons
but there’s more darkness than just krills
Lol they got hit by the krill so they fell and lose the winged light which is scattered throughout the sky world
Jk
But it might be😂😂
no ronin, winged light isn't from the elders
there is, yes, but the krills came from the dark realm of the sky universe
“Throughout the world there are these imprints this child of light, a character you are connected to and have a relationship with” frequently called shiny bois by devs and in one later livestream “shiny bois” is referred to as something they should maybe not say while streaming, spoiler maybe?
"shiny boi"
Man I can't get Bucket's voice out of my head
Winged Light are imprints left behind by this Child of Light
i believe that the recent season shows that the elders who were riding the boat got attacked by the krill in the midle of a storm
its evident from the murals on the boat in the forgotten ark
This was taken from far away facing the entrance of the area
the boat was hit by lightning
AYYY
Interesting lore question: Who is the Child of Light? We have a relationship to them... so it has to be either the megabird or the narrator if the narrator isn't the megabird
there is no boat on krill mural
The mural rather clearly shows boats getting hit by lighting
I know it’s not but I wish it was the prince 
That part of the mural shows that the krill existed after the storm
I’ve still got a feeling that the krill caused the storm and hit the people, but oh well
It wasn't the elders on that boat, because they're all wearing vault masks
Oh yeah!! The mucky water that makes all the crabs evil!
And the elders all wear different masks, only the forest and vault elders have comparable masks
Really where does these cute lil rocks come from?
but something interesting
Oh yeah!! The mucky water that makes all the crabs evil!
@shrewd trout sad lyf
I watched the trailer
No more krabby patties
There’s the same mural in the ark and isle
Each season must have a lore
I don’t think it healed the water tho
The exact same mural
There’s the same mural in the ark and isle
@ana.#8687 very true!!
Hmmm
The exact same mural
@sturdy gate maybe in every boat in the past civilization?
Hmm
wasn't any lore in the season of rhythm except the last cutscene where they take off on a giant bird
It wouldn't make sense I guess
Oh??
hmm on closer inspection it kinda looks like something from a spirit
I noticed that too
wasn't any lore in the season of rhythm except the last cutscene where they take off on a giant bird
@hollow pier unwritten rule for lore-finding: Every detail matters
I JUST HAD A WACKY REALIZATION
Okay so... you know all of the different colors of light we have to collect throughout this season??
Forgot I should speak eng
Yes
What were the cutscenes for gratitude and belonging?
Mhm?
lightseekers was the forest table, rhythm was the giant bird
I’ll have to watch the cutscenes again,,
*the final cutscenes
What if through collecting all these lights we like heal wasteland or something? Or maybe just that area?
I'm android :3
What if through collecting all these lights we like heal wasteland or something? Or maybe just that area?
@grim python unlikely
I think the final Gratitude cutscene was gratitude spirits thanking us at Home
I hope just that area @grim python
Lightseekers' was at Home too
For the future players to experience the BAD STUFF in we experienced in wastelands!
For the future players to experience the BAD STUFF in we experienced in wastelands!
@hushed steeple jk
my little demonic demon spawn wasteland
Um yes
Yee that’s been around for a while
I’m pretty sure this proves that each individual spirit has their own significant power thi
This is so weird I just can’t say agh
*tho
GUYS
I know it has been but,, aahsjdbfjdw
The one in the middle doesnt have a light
?
oh it was belonging that was the forest cutscene oop
The one in the middle doesnt have a light
*Colored light
Probably
@hollow pier unwritten rule for lore-finding: Every detail matters
:3
oops
I guess it is
Hmm I think they made it white because it won’t do anything?
Because that's what I've learned from all the lore-finding youtubers out there
Like matpat etc.
Maybe it just gives you the rewards
Hmm
But that mural in the ark is really interesting
Wait
Ancient spirits have telekinesis power
And using the telekinesis emote in lifting random stuff is ineffective
lightseekers and gratitude the spirits just thank you at home and disappear
every detail matters except when there's no details to observe
XD
Yup maybe
Ok I have to practice music
Bye!
Practice 40 hrs!
Babye
(Man I'm actually having more fun digging in the lore than playing the game)
it's a part of playing Sky
a very pretty one i guess
It's so empty
Technically the sky world is destroyed already
Even the Valley of triumph is so empty
(weird because it has cheering sfx)
Weirdly, krills don't invade the rest of the areas
Even the valley is so peaceful
Hmmm, why is the Vault not invaded?
How come?
It's literally sandwhich by the 2 dark areas: Wastelands and Eden
But the darkness could've overcomed it
Uhmm
Valley is like in the lower level than forest
So it must be so low
The vault is the same level as eden
In fact eden is a bit higher than vault
In vault you have to rise to higher levels in order to meditate and meet the elder spirit. Vault is already hi-
Oh wait
After meeting the elder spirit, you get teleported to ground level with the portal to home and eden
Maybe it has something to do with producing these diamond stones theory. Valley is a place for entertainment?
HF and GW, Eden and ark gets in touch with these products the most and easily cause accidents
Valley is all clean and nice
Wait
HF is a place concealed from the sun's brightness
It's so dark in there
Except in the sunny forest
:o
The only place with a hole in the clouds
So that sun's light can enter
Yup
Possible cause for dark plants
People often make the assumption that the top level of vault that leads to eden is the ground floor
But that doesn’t make sense because the ground floor looks different and also has an entrance
It’s more likely that we teleport to another entrance to vault
So where is eden located exactly in the sky world?
And that the middle floors of vault are in another dimension
Either above or below vault I guess
Both ground floors we see are just different entrances
Eden is in the middle of the world of sky
There’s concept art maps and they always have eden in the middle
Vault would be right near the middle but not directly beneath
Where can I see those?
Same^
check pinned posts
This chsnnel?
The pinned posts in this channel have a lot of information
bon voyage
In particular I would recommend reading the link of mine that’s pinned, it has all the canon information that’s not necessarily in game
Btw @hollow pier @humble barn do you have any idea on why the krills only take over GW and Eden?
my idea is that because they were guardians of Eden (and Vault)
yeah it's not technically my idea, I think many ppl think this way
It’s possible there’s krill beneath the clouds all the way out in isle Praire and valley
Wasteland is the first time we actually go /beneath/ the clouds
Actually here’s a good theory
They avoid light like how deep yells hurt krabs (and we know yelling contains light because it recharges our friends capes)
So we only see them in wasteland and Eden because they have cloud cover there
Doesn’t explain forest though
Yea
I know how to kill krills now
Spamming deep calls with friends
Jk
I might be digging more of this lore tomorrow
I'm having headache now😞
I'd stick to the diamond (elders used them to store light) another theory somewhere in the pinned message. Krills are the creatures that got corrupted and they were originally the creature who owns light, the spirits did some sort of experiment and made them attack thoses who own light. Eden is the place that it took part so that's why Krills are all over the place. GW and HF took part in the production progress and some sorta huge accidents happened....
They're all in the pin lol too lazy to type
I am assuming that there was no battle with light creature
That part of concept was abandoned, but that's just my theory
Nah the krill are the victim of these incidents
Dig under the sand owo
I think krill are basically wasteland turrets and eden king in tomcepts mixed up and divided into pieces
can't we just walk to the land?
Doesn’t explain forest though
@hollow pier forest is surrounded with clouds tho and there's still plently of light around but idk either
hmm
the intro is very interesting
"if only they had listened"
listened to who?
the lost stars are the spirits
when we meditate at the elder spot, we send them back to orbit
but who didn't they listen to?
Narrator most likely
the megabird
Child of light
and again, what IS the child of light?
the game is called children of the light
plural
there's not just one
No one knows and no one talks about it because next to no one knows it exists
Yea but there is one main one, one that created the imprints and one that is in the intro
Plus, Reika seemed to mention him or her a lot
but that's a sky kid
The beginning of the intro when the narrator said “with the stars united, our light was infinite”
There's no reason that krill can't be both guardians of eden /and/ corrupted
corrupted guardians
Re: an earlier comment
much like the guardians from BoTW
I think ppl got the mechanical krill idea from journey when the guardians were robots
Maybe it’s like a...
Filter
my guess is that the black soot stuff is the corruption
They did take it from the water over there
also something I've noticed
the krill are, bendy
extremely bendy
almost like they're seperate segments
so I present you
krill are flying crab hiveminds
Not saying I KNOW that it’s a filter, I’m jus saying it’s most likely a filter
Who knows, devys could’ve accidentally added a stick in the pot
or maybe it's a stirring stick
what even are the crabs
they seem to be part rock?
Sorry to inrupt if something is being talked about, but I've noticed something in the Ark's paintings
Ok my best guess is filter tbh
Reminds you of lightseekers doesn’t it
The quests are with red light right?
Not all of them, red light is jus 1 of the spirits special “powers”
Ugh Idk the word
they seem to be workers in the painting- I also find elemental paintings
my guess is that we haven't seen the entire mural
I thinkkkkk, it was the scare spirit
Tbh I forgot
I mean the red light
Also
there's no mural underground
The tirangle looks like a prhisma with light boing in it, which makes a rainbow
the spirit draw it after the ark got half buried
it's air
Your right
the list is illusion, psychic, fire, water,??? and wind
Alchemical symbol for air but don’t forget we aren’t sure that it’s air for sure and we dunno if they are even using alchemical symbols
The boats also have the element symbols aswell
Beard spirit was experimenting unsuccessfully in the water
However, he has the water power
Would that mean he was trying to cure the waters of wasteland, but something is keeping it corrupt?
Maybe they were normal workers till the spirit came out ith light thing in the first picture?
ohh, the three wavy lines are air
Mochi i tried doing that. But my skykid couldn't jump xc
@hushed steeple I am testing it now and can jump and walk to the land. Could be a bug, or, were you chibi? the small height can affect your mobility in water
then the triangle is earth
That can be!
So hard to talk without saying spoilers 😔
red is illusion though
beta spoilers
I think thats why it syas "Spoilers"
Beta spoilers technically
yeah
And those stay in beta channels
I am trying to edit the whole photo, we will have to think ourselves aobut the burried pieces
my mural pics are all from beta bc I see no mural in live
~~ on both sides
^
I am ~awesome~ at painting
Also, in the orijin we were told something fell from the skies, This paintinalsp have the boat falling down
Ya lied to me
They fell, in the start of the game, the lights fell down from the skies aswell if i remember correctly
Pretty sure the storm took em out, but I’m also confused bc we never get to see the storm around the ark
the storm above the golden wasteland
We saw lightning in the trailer when the boat was flying.....maybe the storm will come around the end of the season
the storm IS already there
And yes they do look like scholars, seemed like they wanted to add to their collection
....how? It’s insanely peaceful at the ark
it's above the storm now
I think the ark will get fixed at the end cutscene
it got struck by the entrance storm
Yeah
the storm we see in the trailer is below the one krill in Forgotten Ark
and then made an emergency landing on the area it is now
Wasteland enter storm cant carry a think that big qithout breaking it to fit
aswell
So many theories at once idk who to respond to
one of them was eaten by krill or turned to one
I’m trying to build a small lore doc for my friend, does anyone know where to find the cutscenes for past seasons?
I can’t find many on YouTube
Ehhh they didn’t show much
Jus them saying bye and then boom
U get an ultimate reward
They haveo ne enter to the season with sports doing nothing pretty well
rip spelling
Ah, thought they had more to tell
Especially with how light seekers might be tied with enchantment peeps :0
I don't think the quest giver turban is the ultimate reward
Mhm, it would stay kinda... simple?
I think ppl got the mechanical krill idea from journey when the guardians were robots
@sly kestrel actually i got the idea before I played Journey, because their light looked artificial
i dunno
I think they turned the main light onto like element lights?
vault people experimented with the light orbs
^^
I’m confused what ball thing they used to make what it looked like fireworks
those are the spells
you have a campfire spell, two people using the firework spell and two using a resize potion
And ur sure of that?
yes
They maybe learned to cast spells and used it? On the corner they pop one, the line goes in to the fireplace
There’s the chibi spell too
you know, no one is talking about the hidden light orbs
What hidden light orbs
it's resize
The colored lights or the boat ones in isle
Oooh true
the quest catch the hidden light
That’s what it’s called?
what are the orbs in the isle tunnel
Thats what that is called?
one of today's quest is collect the hidden light in wasteland
catch the light in X area
Maybe we gotta collect the red light again jus for the quest
I named them (color) lights
Jus sumtin from lightseeker season
Ye those
Probably a teaser for this season
Dunno about it being the ark tho
I found those iwth Teri too
And I think light seekers and these guys one are connected somehow
How
it's possible that the "main" light, the lights without symbols in the mural are hidden lights and not elemental lights
they are
I always thought that main light was the lightseeker one
lightseekers took the hidden light and gave it to vault people
Well I’m assuming that the light the light seekers collected correlate to the spells we see as seen on the mural
Yeah
I mean, they look like lightseeker spirits and they are literally chasing the light
hats and umbrellas yes
But Light seekers had a wet fahsion, those dudes are from straight desert
Wet/rain concept*
They interacted but they aren’t the same
The ones one the mural have umbrellas
yeah, lightseekers is more insect theme
flower, butterfly
two butterflies actually
Also they prolly had their clothes to sort of adapt to the environment in wasteland since they crashed and lived there
I can try to put all i found in one picture
one could be a moth
I shall try it
but why would peaceful scholars have a catapult
purple lines is moth and golden lines is butterfly?
Maybe it was in the ark
I dunno
And then it fell
We could assume the ark was maybe a war ship at one point or it was just for protection
After all there is a ship wreck in wasteland
Technically it does have valuables inside
I think the shipwreck was carrying war supplies
It was a cargo ship holding diamond carriers for the diamond press but ANYWAYS back to season talk
unless the catapult was for yeeting research
maybe some/all the spirits we see are not the ones who fell from the Ark, but are children of survivors
Maybe it was already there before the ark crashed
what I'm wondering is where the ark was going
Here is a small out there theory tho: could it be possible that the amount of light magic/spells caused the storm and brought the krill towards it (since krill love dat light) or was it really just bad luck
it's an ARK after all, it carries life
can’t spell KRAb without ARK
Psychic, fire, illusion, water, air and earth allll in one boat
Crab is with a c 😭😭😭
you know how there's a bunch of pipes in GW?
what if it was a regular area
in the past
I do wonder if the outer islands of the golden wasteland were still prosperous as the mainland was getting corrupted
I challenge Jay to a krabob duel
but diamond mining(?) ruined the area
Because one of the spirit memories in the ship wreck is a spirit leaving on a boat
True...
It was a lot of magic on that ship
I thought it was more of an escape though I don’t quite recall the memory fully might have to check it later
Same
The shipwreck porthole is in a kinda weird place, structurally— cargo door?
Diamonds were at the other end tho
I relaised something while putting them together
Putting what together
Boats swim in water, And those boats fly. In this shot, we dan see both on boats
Maybe they kinda formed together to do it?
U can see 1 in the wave emote cutscene too
No, i know sky boats can fly
But in this shot maybe they made flying boats by working together and those seasonal spirits might be thusands of years old
Since they are spirits we can't exatcly know if they were obrn after the flying boats
and a boat in water is seen in daylight praire cave
I noticed that too! I was trying ot tell that exactly.
Also mural is partially buried in hillside
Now that I think about it.....the seasonal spirits could’ve been the scholars in the mural, but they took off their head plates and “scholar” clothes to change into clothes to adapt to the desert environment.
Technically, that’s all we do here
Maybe they used the old clothes unneaded parts to make turbans and stuff
I’ve been looking at the murals etc around the ark and noticing groups of 6, like a groups of 6 stars or a table with 6 narrow jars— dunno what it all means tho
I mean in the mural u don’t see any turban clothing or masks or anything, I’m rlly getting in to this
It rlly does make sense that the spirits were the scholars in the mural
Yeah
And they used a part of clothes to make onto Turban clothes to stay alive in the place
Some of the new capes are super fancy just from a survival perspective, plus the intro sez they were seeking prosperity
Yea the head plates, most likely they took em off tho
The bad thing is since they are spirits, we cant kniw hich time they took in living
not all lightseekers had umbrella/hat, but in mural they all have them. So I guess the head plates in mural are also not actual clothing, but are something indicating who they are
We also had those striped buildings in Forest with the similar shape
They survived and died down there without completing their mission
Maybe some scholars, sone textile merchants?
They seemed to be Workers or miners beofre rhe possible quest giber arrived
But as someone else said earlier, it’s possible that all that power and light together at once is what caused the storm
All 6 orbs of power together in one boat
@mellow sable i dont think we are missing the murals, because i doubt they did it before they crashed
I am wondering about the crab mine area (also w murals)— why was it dug? The caves near the farm seem like a qanat (underground reservoir/catacombs)
Like mocha frap said
They prolly exaggerated the hats and scholar head plates to give us a clear explanation on who they were
What if
what if..?
They were Lightseekers that turned into Schoolsrs to fall down from the sotrm and become Wasteland dudes? (We really need a name to them oof) Its like 0,1% Chance but
doubt
Its impossible tho
Some have hats
but lightseekers are associated with the enchantment children
Tbh that kinda makes sense cuz as the murals go left to right it seems to tell a timeline
Maybe they did turn into scholars
Yeah
but the lightseeker handed the light to the scholar in a mural
Oh true true
yep.
But those could’ve been the seasonal spirits
Lightseekers and the enchantment.....seekers
Idk what to call em 😂
Suddenly tempted to say the little village/hamlet they built around the ark should be called Arkham
we call em harps
TURBAN SCHOLARS
AHA
we call lightseekers the umbrellas
we don't know if
is a harp tho
we can call them scholars than,
All I did for now, getting others, added text to send it here
we need a name for them
Arkham asylees
so it could be that they were trying to ship stuff to another place but something went wrong
Maybe
we can call em turbans
Gilligans
vault people are foreheads, umbrellas and turbans
They sailed but something went wrong, they fell to wasteland and they decided to live there as different jobs? Osme farmers and crafters.
not like job
I meant
just surviving
To live
yeah
They growed cops and crafted
they cant live as librarians anymore
But somehow died anyways and spirits were found newly?
not sure if librarians
librarians or scientists or whatever scholars do
...
The lightseekers found out about the light and shared it with the scholars, they then adapted it to make new powers, psychic, illusion, fire, water, air and earth. Scholars had an idea to change the world with this power, to seek prosperity and change, probably to undo the damage in wasteland. But with all that power and all the orbs in 1 single boat, it attracted a storm and they crashed into a deserted place. They were stuck here without a way out so they decided to adapt to their environment and wear clothes for the desert and we eventually call em turban clothes. They even made farms. With no way out, one of the scholars painted murals on their ark so someone could know their story and maybe one day, someone will complete their mission
I mean, there is a craft sure with one of the spirits. When collecting there are planks like a desk and few cups
GOT IT
aight so
i like that Jay!
the scholars became turbans
The umbrellas found out about the light and shared it with the scholars, they then adapted it to make new powers, psychic, illusion, fire, water, air and earth. Scholars had an idea to change the world with this power, to seek prosperity and change, probably to undo the damage in wasteland. But with all that power and all the orbs in 1 single boat, it attracted a storm and they crashed into a deserted place. They were stuck here without a way out so they decided to adapt to their environment and wear clothes for the desert and we eventually call em turban clothes. They even made farms. With no way out, one of the scholars painted murals on their ark so someone could know their story and maybe one day, someone will complete their mission
This makes real sense now!
or maybe children of scholars
and/or servants of scholars
Scholars alt-workers?
asistants
Yeah
the shrug emote
Maybe he lived the longest? We can't know
I mean
that old ppl could be the last survivors
assistants more like it
Who knows they could’ve jus cut their beard and some of them kept it 😂
could be
the one that LOOKS the youngest
with that scare
But who knows he coulda shaved
I hope at the end of the season the mural becomes an animated cutscene and we are told what truly happened 😅
me too
Crab one seems to be inetrested in Wasteland life maybe?
“hEHehE U uglY crab imMa mock ur Walk,
, AHH HE’S ATTACKING”
That’s basically what happened in his memory
He could be trying to communicate with crabs like and idiot tho, if the scholar thing was right he could have been trying to get some info on crabs
crab spirit trying to dodge crabs by mimicking them is the funniest cutscene in this whole game
^
Mmm they had the knowledge to survive but they didn’t have the resources to stay alive 😔
F
The scare spirit wasn’t that weird, he jus saw some crows on his crops and he was like AHHH GO AWAY 
I think he was trying to get info, like if the Scholar theory is right, it will make sense
i wonder Sky mushrooms had calories
I am talkin about crab walk btw
It was prolly their only food source since they were stuck in the desert
Crows will just poison you
Prolly why that one spirit got mad when he made her drop one
YOU IDIOT THAT WAS OUR DINNER

Playful mad
Well honestly the spirit memory seemed to be more mad than playful but when we get the emote it’s more.....playful
Look its drum
lemme jus eat some nasty crows
maybe mushrooms in Sky were more nutritious than birds
Lemme catch a disease and eat a crow
some birds just taste bad
Oh snap, a crow eating our crops
Lemme jus eat it and get sick
Alright imma stop now 😂
But what I’m trying to say is that it’s unlikely they could’ve used those birds as a food source
did the spirits know about the megabird, and were birds possibly considered to be a sacred species that can't be eaten?
The emote we get from the friend list sort of seems like a playful thing and don’t forget we have a child’s view so what we could’ve been a mad emote, to us it was seen as a play fight emote
If they were spirits from the vault then they definitely knew about the megabird
I mean, in the sky kids view we thought a dead guy was sleeping
yea they used the light creatures to store light but they didn't eat them afaik
Ok my best guess is that she got mad cuz he made her drop the mushroom but she wasn’t tooooo mad so that’s why she didn’t go killing him
You go to a office to get conversation with the workers and see small children running stound iwth capes and masks with kight eyes
Jus a simple “UGHH THAT WAS OUR DINNER U DUMB FARMER
”
crab spirit successfully passed the crab while they were in the emote 
We must get them to rename it to crab rave
YES
The scholars were all trapped in the desert together so I wouldn’t be surprised if they all got close
okay to put it another way... our rl power source is like... hydrocarbon products, like oil and gas. we don't consider those to be edible, so perhaps the spirits didn't consider birds to be edible because they're a power source, not a food source?
Like hey, we all best friends now
ey
I mean, sky has the concept of a life cycle
And frinedship
Why cant i spell today
Its Morning here
I jus thought crop eating crows were too risky to be taken as a food source and I kinda exaggerated it earlier 😂 but idk, maybe there was a point when crows were eaten
U do strange things for food
Scroll up; u will see where I got that
I dont- Well i ate something on the floor at schoo beaucse I havent aten in like 13 hours
I actually disagreed with it
light birds
Hunger can make u do something crazy as to eating a diseased crow
I called em crow bc....idk thy were eating the plants
how u eat light
It could be beaucse of the Megabird, Like here we don't eat pigeons beuacse they make nests in our special places roofs
And I never said they did, like I said wayyy earlier I disagreed with the fact that they ate those birds

Ok here’s what happened, I was taking about why the play fight spirit was mad with the farmer bc he made her drop a mushroom and since they were deserted in the desert that could’ve been their only food source so that’s why she was like “UGHH
“ when I said this, someone else implied that they could’ve jus ate the birds and I was like ehhhh it’s possible but unlikely
So that’s what happened MIMI
I will try to get it all in a bigger canvas
THAS WHAT IMMA CALL IT
but we see that they were drawn after the crash
Ye
Found the right orde i think
It would be weird if they jus made a story of their ark crashing before they even crashed
And it would b weirder if they tried to make their story and put some of it underneath the ark
So it’s rlly unlikely there’s more buried under
what do you guys think happened to the 7th person 
The sands in deserts always move. The ark is more burried than it ever was probs
Beaucse of wind and sanstormd
Pretty sure the 7th is what we see as the questgiver
7 people were on the upright ark but only 6 fell out
Like how a bit of the Pyramids got burried
The 7th scholar
do you guys think he got krilled too
The questgiver
I reckon he died by getting eaten by the krill
Maybe he was left behind?
Or that
New Season with Murals: Hi-
#lore-discussion-spoilers : Y e s
the QUEST GIVERRR
He was there but we don’t have a spirit memory bc quest givers don’t give out spirit memories
i feel like in the upcoming week more will be revealed
Maybe he died of fall damage and fell way before them?
Oh hey die
once we find a different light
I mean dae
yo jay
he doesn't have a memory quest because he got eaten before he landed
Thats a possibility actually
Why do u think he got eaten
They are right
So dark, coulda jus said he died with the rest of the spirits
cause there were 7 people on the upright ark and only 6 who fell out :U
so the fate of the 7th is unknown and he possibly died before the others did
he was eaten and through the eye of krill he watched his people from Sky
Omg the questgiver I’m telling you, Ik this is a theory chat but I am 99% sure it is the questgiver
The ship could’ve subsided deeper into the sand since the murals were first made— playfight ship looks almost vertical
well yes it's the questgiver but they're all dead so this is a theory of how the questgiver possibly died before they crash landed
I think that ship was there before the ark
A lot of ships were already there actually
I'm calling it now, quest giver is the captain
Yes
why else would he wear 
What is the significance of the symbol to them? It’s also on their ship
it looks like a horseshoe
Look, The "Captain" brought the light to Umbrealles is a theory aswell
labels?
it being a horseshoe would make sense
Magic in a balloon/jar thing wd fit the spellmakibg motif
This is a long shot but what if one of the elements allows you to shapeshifter? The vault captain turned into the krill accidentally 😅
they all look like lightseekrs to me
with the magic aesthetic
i thought it was a lyre and that there would be more music but i reckon now it's just an ark
there's no instruments
yea
and also no music sheets I think
that is possible, Azaura, captain = krll
definitely not a lyre
Think the devs said there was a reason no instrument
I think it was jus their symbol
there's one music sheet
reverse horseshoe, fits the magic aesthetic of this season
This boat looks like the enchantment symbol
we shouldn’t overlook it
yeah see that?
that's a mural under the sand
But why horseshoes if no horses???
Maybe that’s where they got their symbol design
we don't have the full picture yet
you guys, the possibility of spirits turning into krills changes like... everything
i am sure we have almost full picture, maybe buried a bit but not much.
I just realised
I think we're missing way more
with every season, This channel boils
do u guys think the light in shipwreck means that the two boats are connected?
Even if there was more, there wouldn’t be much more then the pic we already have
'lo
we see the nod spirit standing on the ground level though
Yeah
Hm
Maybe some more design in the storm and boats but overall if the ark gets unearthed I don’t think we will see something significant in the main mural
Krill broke out of its ark mecha suit
krills
hm. krills.
the ark was the krill all along
there's a krill in the area
Wait there is?
yea I tried to bait the krill into hugging me but I couldn't get close enough
what if the krill is the reason the water is polluted?
Might have to take this to general chat actually
Krill overhead on way to ark— will attack if you fly up and taunt it
Fly up out of boat as soon as cutscene lets you
Krills work overhead? Well I hipe sure it does.
@mellow sable KRILLS NOT POTTY TRAINED
Were driving from Season dead people to Giant Spiky logs
oh! question
Usually I don’t say crazy theories like this, usually I use evidence and stuff but u guys remember when I said that the storm was made bc of all the orbs and light together in one place? Psychic, illusion, fire, water etc
In the mural we see a krill and that krill is part of that storm.......so what if the krill was created alongside with the storm by the orbs
the forest trees don't have leaves do they?
They don’t
Crabs have dandruff too
that means that it could be a petrified forest
We never see leaves the whole game
I think that krill made the ark go into the storm to dodge him
