#lore-discussion-spoilers
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Ball of light đĄ
they catchig a bbubble
Can u explain why thereâs a tiny tiny lil girl jus playing guitar on the bottom right corner
thats the spirit
that orb looking like a ball
probably lost it because he dropped it in the river
OoPs there goes mah ball
just like âoh hey i found a nice ball, iâm gonna play with itâ a few minutes later âOH NO MY BALL IT GOT INTO THE RIVER IâM SO DUMBâ
Butterfingersssss
butter fingerrss
So much stuff was happening at that area
Gratitude boy is walkin in tunnels, blue capeâs clumsy self jus dropped a ball in the river, chibi mask is playin hide and seek, percussion girl is flirting in front of a dude with an umbrella and thereâs the lightseeker spirit doing whatever
hes flirting with a flower
Oooh yeaaa
LMAO FLIRTING
I think theory hour is over...
So imma jus.....
continue reading my Tokyo ghoul manga
See yâall laterrrr
see ya later jay
Anyone notice the little star-for-a-head Skykid in the concept art for the elders?
Oh heâs handsome
what
the heck
Is that?
He looks aggressive
Doesnât he have the same head as the king?
He is the king
Oh
Well....not yet
Soo...mini king
So thatâs how he was as big as the mountain Eden is on?
But then in a later concept the king and prince are 2 separate people
Concepts change so..... itâs kinda hard to explain
Which one?
Well thereâs one where the prince saves you from the king up into the orbit and another where the prince gets crowned as the king when civilization thrives at valley and anotherrrr one where the prince guides you through ur journey
I took it as the king being reborn as the prince
but i guess when itâs a cycle it wouldnât make sense to save the king over and over again jfbfjfnd it would just but really sad
What if itâs like
The prince is guiding you with astral projection lol
His king body is corrupted so he is trapped
But he is able to reach you in prince form to save him
ohhhh
Well the corrupt version was when he was stuck in the storm all angry and mad and he jus throws spears at you and gets all aggressive
In early story concept before beta release, u would summon the elders and have them physically being there and the prince would also be in ur journey guiding u
And another version is a storm story concept of the prince taking u out of the Kingâs body and ok yk what
Point is they are 3 different story concepts and if u combine them all it wonât make sense
Everytime I see seraph I see a different username
I am a person of many names
i used to see the prince and king as two separate ppl but now i see the prince who grew up as king. then the prince who leads you out of eden is like.... the good, innocent part of the king leading you out of evil/the storm
Woah thereâs 4 different versions
I canât believe they went through all that story making and brainstorming concepts just to say
âThe king isnât in the game anymore đâ
Damn all these lores, i wanna see em in game someday
Ahh that would be awesomeeee
One thing I rlly want is for this concept to come back đ
im positive tgc wants the king ingame, its resources and storage space and money that holds stuff back :,)
Yeah Iâd love to see it come back
Yea this game is meant to be for phones and if they added all that ^ it would be too much
Jen said that he wanted to spread this game as much as possible but couldnât do it to consoles or pc bc the game needed an upgrade
maybe there will be a day in the near future when the average phone has much, much, much more storage than they do now 
maybe if pc port ever comes out...
512gb isnt enough?
Im hoping they bringing the turtles back in the next big update
saaaame
512 gb on a phone?
Thas crazy
I'm lucky to have 64gb right now
Remember, it needs to be compatible for android too
We canât jus have this huge details thatâs only for certain devices
but I would love to have a bigger game
Conversations are gonna be like âhey did u beat the king yet??â
âWhat king?â
âOh sorry u have an androidâ
âi donât see no king what are you talking about buddy?â
itâd be confusing if they added additional lore to one platform and less detail in another
also tgc intends for platforms to crossplay with each other, so theyre all going to be in the same server too
if that makes sense
ye ye
everyoneâs gonna be in the same servers
wait wonât that mean theyâd need to make more servers because of the limit being 8 players per server
hmm
hello
Everyone is on the same server but people are on different âinstancesâ
Itâs more like party rooms
Rather than each room that exists is one entire server
And those âinstancesâ close or deactivate when people are no longer in it
oooooo
Couple of things for the lore channel on orbit.
If you are high enough in orbit, the rebirth appears like a large version of the stone gates for each kingdom, almost more rudimentary, like the Isle and Prairie ones.
Second I tried to see how close I could windwall my way to the megabird, and noticed its tail extending downwards has similar conveyer of light creatures streaming down from it.
Third, I managed to get this close (above the tail conveyer) but sky crashed before I could reach the megabird
The gate is the same as the gate used/used-d on the old title screen
And the office portal
Smrt!
bird got out of reach ;;;;
Woahhh I never thought about doing that

Wait wait wait where is that second pic?
is it like high above orbit
That is flying up the windwall so high you pass the Skykid constellation
And get to the end of what appears to be the megabirds tail
Before we move past servers, anyone know if Sky uses spot or on-demand pricing?
https://aws.amazon.com/gamelift/pricing/
you have too much patience mael
@drifting copper I was on my final Eden run, I'm fully ascended now (in beta) come on live!
Mael.....
Hmmmmmm how about
MAIL âď¸
You have Mael
đ
How about male âď¸
oh wow nice photos!
I think ur the only one that thought about doing this
Same as the others in vault, they are 2d and flatten
@sly kestrel I'm probably the only one who finds flying around windwalls stress relieving
wow
lmao do you do that to every place in sky with windwalls
I only wind wall fly at home đ
I didnât kno u could do it in other places
Not all wind walls are able to do that
@drifting copper I have in Isle and home
oh wow
It's fun how the crack in the clouds almost mirrors the crack in the cliff to get into prairie at the end of the section, which you can actually see beyond the cloud-crack
When you look below, the clouds look like blue cotton candy or cotton balls 
I think they could look a bit better with edge opacity decreased
The twin clouds reminded me of the twin towers at journey
Oh yeah, I can see that connection
Also one time I went so high I could see the entire realm and it jus looks like a giant ship
For reference, I really liked the rendering of the clouds in Jenova and student teams project "cloud"
https://youtube.com/watch?v=PA0LUR7Z6SU&list=PLE3DBB45039788E71&index=3
They rlly good at making emotional storytelling mannn
So good, and emotional music from Diamante too
Ahhh I know this ainât lore but tgc is making a new office at the Bay Area so more improvements and stuff can be made faster and we will have more stuff đ
i thought their office was already in the bay areaâ
to be fair im canadian so idk where that is lol
i thought bay area is a region oop
guess it means more toilets breaking
im like âoh theyre near san fran*
Whenever nagati or seraph comes, letâs jus talk about boats
like 2 sentences on lore
IM SORRY WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF THINGS TO TALK ABKUT đ
But this is one of our off topic days, usually we really break down on lore
And theories
i had a theory
Yay
but you guys are so off topic i dont think anybody will notice
today ainât our day lmao
No
any theory is good please feed us
no, not until you stop talking about distances between cities
ok good
Theory time
theory
canonically, the eye of eden is a giant fractured power diamond
yeah
canonically innacurate
well it doesnât have to be accurate
D:
it was a cool theory though because we still know very little about Eden itself
I'm so sorry, I didn't mean for you to delete it
đ
it was something about eden being an ancient civilisationâs main centre and thatâs where the origin of all the light in sky comes from
pretty much the only confirmed stuff about eden is the fact that the eye is a giant fractured power diamond
similar to like a waterway when they used to see rivers as a main source
and there is a megabird
ye ye
Still havenât confirmed that yet
But the story would make more sense if it did have the megabird
it was in the canon lore doc
but why the name eden tho?
ahhh, makes sense
theres the garden of eden
I was thinking that too, why would they use the name eden
yeah
unless
i said that they named it eden based on the garden of eden in the bible. it was supposed to be paradise
eden was once lucious place
but something went wrong so its in ruins
thats why
was it confirmed that the corruption was from the darkness/krill attacking in like wasteland?
the elders fled
maybe at its peak, eden was paradise. it had cities and it was close to orbit, their og home. then stuff went wrong and its no longer paradise
going through the spirit memories, the cry emote was about them hiding then eventually a group sailed away
in the beginning, it said something about 6 stars falling from heaven. i think those stars are the elders, fleeing from the destruction of eden
I thought it was more that the elders were corrupted
but one elder, eden elder, didnt want to leave his home
That also made me think something else. U guys kno about the sin of eden right, not to eat the forbidden fruit
Maybe this ball was related to it yk
the eden elder is not confirmed
and so he stayed and was ultimately killed
i think they had eden after they fell to the ground
they said in a livestream there was an eden elder but hes not around anymore i think
is eden elder basically the king
going from my admittedly very hazy memories of the beginning of the game, my first impressions of the fall was that the elders were corrupted by some sort of power and fell from heaven. that's why we have to save the world
because they're no longer worthy
or something
guessing the forbidden fruit to this is the darkness
could just be not remembering things correctly
U must be thinking of the old intro
Back then it said âbut darkness bonds and I cast them awayâ
our memory ainât functioning
Binds*
bonds or blinds
screaming noises
BINDS
I definitely think I remember something like that
Old beta
maybe I've just taken in too much lore
When it was called Sky Light Awaits
lemme find the post with the intro
you drank too much lore
does anyone still see that one bird that was in beta that sort of guided the nee players??
Yea the bird of light
i used to see it around but i never run into it anymore
There was a theory that it was the megabird
yeah
but im asking if anyones seen it recently
bc i miss it and i never see it anymore 
The bird in isle and forest?
"but darkness came, and the stars fell"
yah!
mhm
bless mirian
If only they had listened...
now we are called
after a long time
we're to bring the lost stars home
ok, yeah. totally misinterpreted it

Iâm not sure if winged lights are just gifts from the elders, or completely separate sentient entities
Reika said they are imprints from the child of light and we have a connected and close relationship with that person
I never payed much attention to that statement bc I didnât kno what she was talking about
Like child of light?? Whoâs that? Why do we give these to the fallen skykids at eden
But u guys can theorize it
As far as I know, we have no knowledge of the child of light at all
the appâs name âchildren of the lightâ could refer to us but its vague
Sky kids official name is child of light
So yes we are children of the light
Which makes us and shiny bois one in the same
owo
She made it sound like it was 1 specific person and i was thinkin that maybe itâs the person in the intro. He or she has the same shape of a skykid and it makes sense for that specific person to be the child of light. He/she also didnât fall with the stars so it does make sense why imprints of the child of light look exactly like it. And Omg why havenât I thought of any of this earlier
Skykids were sent to do their mission and bring home the elders, maybe the shape of the skykids were based on this child of light. Thatâs why we all look the same, and the past sky kids that died in eden look just like us as well
AND OMG
THE KID WE HUG AFTER WE DIE IN EDEN
THATS THE CHILD OF LIGHT
what? No Iâm talking about the kid in the intro and the child of light she was referring to
Hmm
Oh now that makes sense
Sky kids are the shadow of the light sky kid we see when ascending eden
They are basically are our lost light
While ours was temporary
It can drain
And I think merging with the light sky kid
Makes you a pure sky kid?
She said it like it was one person and have u noticed we were all of sudden sent down to the earth
What if we are like clay models of the real child of light and the imprints made from the child of light make us more connected to her/him and soon we have to give that light back to the other skykids that passed in eden
Oh btw what I mean by imprints is the shiny bois
Reika said they are imprints of the child of light
Ahhh itâs all making sense, imma write this down đ
Thatâs why she said we have a connected relationship with her or him
Omgggg ok Iâm making a doc
Reika idk if ur ever gonna read this but thank u for everything
someone did say in the past that sky kids might be artificially made and powered by light.
Jus think about it, we were never born with emotion and we never have any emotion at all. We simply mock or copy what the spirits are doing.
I just wanna shoot fireworks out of a piano with a spell guys. There has to be some emotion with that...
Ok well we have emotions and we are controlling the skykids with our devices but like jus the skykids themselves lore wise, they have no emotion
i think from the perspective of a skykid with a child like ai the actions of elders seem like fun silly things to imitate, like a baby trying to talk
thanks yours is nice too
hmm
Ahh thank u, the guy getting slapped is me and the person slapping me is life
Life beats me up everyday
đđź slap
oof too relatable
Iâm seriously obsessing over this theory, I never felt so lorey before
Seems like Aaron is online.....
Maybe we should.....snatch him for lore đ
Well I did use terms only the lore chat knows so Iâm actually editing it right now so it can be more understandable
But thank u
no its perfectly understandable as it is anyway xD
oh man what did i miss
I always wondered who that child we were hugging at the end was
Someone was wondering what winged lights were and I remembered reika saying they are imprints of the child of light and then all of a sudden I made a huge theory piecing together a bunch of stuff I know
this chat really has me thonkin'
jay you suddenly got a theory from a simple question
what a wild butterfly effect
Ikr
does that make the kid we hug at eden an actual child of light
Itâs also kinda cool I got all that after I jus said âas fAR as I KnOw, We HaVe No knOwLEDge oF the cHild Of LighT at aLlâ
I think the kid we hugged was the actual child of light or a version of it that was able to revive our life force with 7 capes
ooooo that makes sense
they all look the same, explaining them as an imprint of one single child of light makes sense!
that actually makes sense though
Omg omg omg another breakthrough
I always noticed that when we were âdeadâ we were walking towards someone and it seemed like it was someone the skykid seemed to know and we gave a helping hand as if we are like âhey I know you....hug?â
And coincidentalLLYYY we have this bond with the child of light, this relationship jus like reika said
Idk if that was jus me but when I hugged the person I was like âhmmm Iâm getting the vibe like my character already knows this person....like itâs a close friend I always hadâ
not sure if it adds up to that but
we dont get the hug emote right away with friends in the game
we actually spend candles aka improve the friendship/bond with them to get there
so the child we hug is not just someone we know
we have a connection!
aw that makes the whole story of the game ten times deeper xD
imma call skykids clay bois from now on
Clay boisss
i love your theory and i hope it gets proven canon
Well i jus said clay bc of the sound they make when stepping on pots and they look like they are clay , I actually donât know what exactly they are made of, but I do know they are made
well thats just a detail compared to the whole child of light and his imprints thing
and we being created after his image
I was also curios about why he is always looking up

maybe there is something behind that too
awww that would explain why we could hug them
Well when we return the winged light to the kids, they are filled with life and after orbit they return as stars
Maybe they look up because they are like âhey....I belong up thereâ
also maybe the kid misses the other kids of their kind?
Though I do wonder why the winged lights at the eden tunnel are jus....sitting
they do a s i t
They jus vibin doe
and hiding
because they are in places krill cannot see, hidden behind the lanternish things
The tunnel is very mysterious
Sitting winged lights and if u have headphones on and u are at the end of the tunnel, u will hear some creepy voices screaming and moaning
True true, that place is safe from the storm and krill
:0 i never heard those
Yea itâs pretty creepy but cool
oh that makes me think... maybe just like how we retrive the "memories" of other spirits
maybe we are retrieving the "memories" of the child of light
maybe he went through everything we did... eden included
that sorta makes me sad
What makes me sad is seeing the dude at wasteland die just for a skykid to think heâs sleeping
But yea u right, they might be memories of the child of light
Yea his memory is him dying...
;0;
i...
am too sad
that also explains our kids being... like a baby learning emotions
toddler really
ok. boat hunt time
Oh boy
Hey people
I think I kinda made the whole lore as a theory in mind
Just trying to fit in the details
Should I post when I'm done?
Go ahead!
oooooo new boat stuff
Lol yeah that was fun
Wow, when I went to sleep I never imagined the Child of Light and the Imprints could be figured out.
Solid theory.
So assuming it is the/a Child of the Light that we hug before orbit, it makes sense as we get a lot more cape energy and become shiny after hugging.
The winged light giving "shiny bois" we see around the kingdoms are echoes of that power, I still haven't solidified in my mind whether they are living in their own right, or they are more like how we irl cast "shadows", these imprints are like that for the child of light / children of light.
I've always thought the masks the player characters wear are similar to the stone material we see, but without the mask, we are a darker, different material.
So possibly where the winged light shiny bois are an imprint of the child / children of light, we start as, and are an empty vessel for the light imprints.
Now raises the question, why didn't the child (a being of more power) collect the spirits themselves, or, why is it us going to collect the spirits?
Theory 1: Maybe the child / children did try, and got some spirits home, but doing so lost some of their energy, and that is the winged light formed as shiny bois we see around the kingdoms, like we do when we lose light. And so send us as empty vessels down, so that no more light is lost from orbit by them, and slowly we can bring the light back to orbit again.
Theory 2: they are unable to leave as they are filled with light and pulled towards orbit, and like us when we enter Eden, have began to ascend back to the megabird with no way to return, but is still able to project part of their power down into the kingdoms as the winged light.
Either way, we are created as a vessel, in the image of the child / children of light, autonomous enough to bring the spirits home, but without power to leave behind, other than that granted by the child.
So the child waits at the edge of orbit for us to return the spirits granting us a small part of their energy to allow us to guide the spirits back to the elders and Megabird in orbit.
Theory 3: The child we see before orbit appears to be tired, needs help with standing, so we offer our hand to them. So could it be they are tired from doing something or losing something?
Maybe they created the player characters as vessels of themselves and are exhausted from the creation of us.
Or they are tired from projecting the winged light back into the kingdoms / having lost some light within the kingdoms.
Or they see children being lost in the storm and are losing hope until we return.
Or a combination of these.
Sorry for the wall of text again, but love these theories.
That is a wonderful theory, the only problem is, youâre smarter than me so all of that went right over my head.
i mean...
the only ''theory'' i had was that they were winged light given since we also ''died'' as statues

Hmm....
Good.... question there
ourselves ??? the ancestors before they turn into spirits ???
hmmm who made the lil benches
I mean like why build a portal to isle if it was close enough to ride a boat to?
just convenience?
Just deleted a good two paragraphs because I had that traditional #lore-discussion-spoilers OMG It fits!!! realization @cobalt palm
We assume that time from when we are killed/statue-d in Eden till the point where we meet huggy boi is real time? Why?
hold on i had a good theory but forgot it brb
It's a good point @modest sequoia
That falling section inbetween, that's flux time
When we are a statue in Eden
Till someone deposits their light in us
Noooo.... Dangit, I don't like that.
Ok, do over 
ok i remembered it. so weâve pretty decided that the shiny bois are imprints of the child of light. i think they were created as the child of light emotionally broke down from the stress of having to save the spirits alone, he/she/it literally broke apart and lost light we can pick up as power. this also explains why there are more shiny bois in the tunnel to eden. the child of light must have been under more stress than usual and lost more winged light
it can also apply to being eaten by krill rite
i guess so
Umm what about different people hugging the child of light at the same time? Can we tell that there are more "child of light"s? Maybe the "child of light"s and the winged lights are from the megabird?
Taking the 2nd theory of Maelstrom
I have been recently informed that the Megabird is not technically canon (though I strongly believe that the Megabird exists in canon), so depending on whether or not it is in game would determine the possible origins
I personally go with more of the concept-ish information that all things are derived from the Megabird
Have you ever gone to Eden with a group?
Mhm
you can all hug the child of light at the same time if you coordinate
Yeah but seperately
so technically, that implies that there is more than one
but I'm not sure of the implications for lore
it might just be more of a gameplay thing than lore
the fact that you can't hug the same one could be saying that although pretty much the entire game is a social collaboration, the act of rebirth is a solely personal one
you come back to earth alone too
Mhmm
Well he/she is able to make imprints of her/him everywhere, so I wonât be surprised if she was able to make a reallyyyy strong imprint of herself thatâs able to give us straight up 7 wings
Wow u guys actually read my theory huh
I thought kawano was my only supporter
Also based on everything I said yesterday, I think itâs safe to assume that the child of light is the narrator. And ofc this is all a simple theory, but Iâm adding it to my theory. The child of light is the narrator at the intro
Hello Rue
Ah! You saw me!!!
I'm just curiouse why do they apear in the same spot
I'm just thinking about how to type out my thoughts XD
Take ur time, chat is quiet right now. Take advantage of that
winged light
or like the shiny boi
Ahhh Iâm too lazy to explain it all right now wren
Oh wait you're not talking to me, sorry
I'll find it
I like your theory, Jay
Especially since our size is mirrored by the child of light
It would be very interesting if the child of light was the narrator
Well, at first I thought maybe they don't apear in the same spot and it's just a game machanic but they leaves a shiny boi shape light source behind after we got them so there goes my theory 
the bond would also explain why more than one player can't hug the same child of light
They are so powerful they leave a mark and it gives LIGHT
Also if u look closely the afterprint consists of stars
Smaller stars
Afterprint
Haha I jus made a word and it perfectly fits it
I like the teory that we are vessles
it's interesting too that the child of light is lit up and we are not. Then we hug, and then we're glowing
Maybe we absorbed that child
Also adding to my theory agaiinnnn
The child of light scattered her power, her imprints alll over, maybe bc she didnât want to give us straight up power and flight. And I also think thatâs thereâs so many imprints at the eden tunnel bc he or she was preparing us for whats about to come
And I always felt that vibe too, like we need a last set of stars to help us go through the rock rain
But why Eden though?
Wait a minuteeeee I jus thought of something, well know about the eden power diamond and how itâs constantly pieces apart......so why not call it
THE DIAMOND RAIN
Because thatâs where the fallen kids are
It seems like we are just saveing other skykid like us and not the spirits
And they were most likely a different race of skykids with a different mission
honestly, the diamond rain makes more sense
the beta rain made a lot more sense in that context
Cuz our race of skykids are reborn into the world and we live our life there, but our other skykid race they return as glowy stars into the sky
red is more dramatic, but you can see remnants of the blue beta rain with some statues with blue crystals coming out of them
Iâm not the only one that thought this too, the eden skykids had a different mission and are sort of different than us. They are also bigger
So it would be like elders/spirits --> eden skykids ---> us?
Oh the crystals coming out was an old darkstone concept back then
As u slowly die, darkstone would corrupt u and slowly grow out of u, and eden was filled with darkstone as well
yeah
YES
I think they just made the stones red
And I think the old skykids mission was to restore the realms before everything went to waste, but then eden exploded and they FAILED
badly
And then they were like âight, time to send more kidsâ
I always thought Eden exploded in the time of those spirits
I believe something happened during the time of the spirits
Wasteland definitely went to... waste
don't know if Eden was specifically involved during the time of the spirits
Yea it was
Who else would build eden then if the spirits werenât there
Well......back when they werenât dead
didn't mean build
Back when they were people
Since those statue in Eden seem like they're having a hard time moving forward like us so the invironment shouldn't be that much differant
Yea, well a lot of us like to believe the eden explosion is what brought all the destruction of the realms
My theory is that the power diamond was unstable, too much power, uncontrollable power unlike the small blue power diamonds
Also it was said that the power diamonds were related to the downfall of the civilization
I think there's a theory that the power diamonds were something that should never really have been done, and that's what corrupted the elders and caused them to fall
So they created a huge diamond to maybe.....power eden? Give it its energy, but then they couldnât control it and then
Boom
also the corruption drew the dark creatures in
âŚď¸đĽ
Well it was said that darkness was a natural thing in the world, but u could be right
Ight imma chill for now, I think I typed too much ^
I think it was something like the light kept the darkness back, but when they were corrupted, it allowed the darkness to come in
YESSSS
this is the lore channel, we can never have too much here!
giant war
there's a theory that wasteland was either a power diamond production place or refinery
I was thinkin that too
Also the intro said the light was infinite when the stars were united but when they fell, I think thatâs when it was released
Maybe the red diamond is something like an infinite power source then something gone wrong
I used to think the big diamond was a gift from Megabird to the elders. Now itâs what theyâve built that when wrong, in most theories.
the power diamonds were what caused the corruption
Yupp
I think power diamonds were made by the elders
they're not natural
that's why it's bad
The diamonds that forest elder made?
Hmmm u havenât seen our theories huh
Or big diamond
About how they are made
Iâve seen, Iâm just confused which diamond you were mentioning
yeah, forest elder (and others) made power diamonds in the theory, including the giant one in eden
The eden diamond is believed to be one big power diamond
Mhm knew about eden diamond
Yea Iâm too lazy to explain the process but Wren u got the idea
They are artificial
âArtificial starsâ to be exact
it kind of made more sense to keep Eden blue in that case, but the red is much more dramatic, and also kind of highlights the fact that it is either too powerful or too corrupt (or both)
It used to be blue
yeah, in beta
But I believe they made it red to represent the corruption
This probably might not be important to the lore but, what do you think those 3 glowing orbs in the cave of isle are? The place the isle lightseeker spirit used to be.
also I think the blue was too dark
I think they are soccer balls 
No theories were made about it either
Oh thereâs one
They are soccer balls â˝ď¸
Noticed the crying spirit in forest, they were traped in the cave by boulders and darkplants while we can easily burn out those plants, I think they will have to recharge the diamonds somehow and more reason for them to seek for an infinit source
I can't type that fast so my response might be delayed
Probably mining for more resources to recharge the diamonds
one theory is that wasteland used to be a power diamond refinery
which explains all the pipes
Ok so imma explain some stuff
there's one that the power diamond production caused a lot of waste, which contributed to the corruption of the water
and drew in the dark creatures
The âforest templeâ is a diamond press, they were made there
Also wasteland has this diamond press
And other factories nearby
I feel like the wasteland one is more obvious that it's a press than forest
What if forest elder worked with the wasteland warriors in a way
but definitely get press vibes from it
But I donât think the whole wasteland realm was built jus for the purpose of industry
And that ruined âforest templeâ is another place for her to work
Ok Iâll do a quick explanation bc I donât think u guys heard this before
Ok go ahead
I love this channel
You know how the intro said when the stars were united, their power was infinite? well on the gate to eden it seems like faces with masks from different areas of the game are combining their light. maybe the big power diamond in eden was the result of the elders putting all their light together to make an infinite power source that was ultimately too much to handle? all of the previous stages could have been representing the process of gathering light. the isle was before the elders began working on the power diamonds. butterflies' light in prairie and later bigger creatures of light like birds and the mantas were killed and compressed into diamonds which were later gathered into one big diamond, Eden's power diamond
sorry if thats a long post
so that means
I don't think it was that violent
the elders WERE the stars that fell from heaven
valley could have been a celebration of success and wasteland was a sudden civil war that broke out over who controls the big diamond
yeah
16th time
So artificial stars are made with organic material pressed with light
Prairieâs job was to collect butterflies, put them in pots and deliver them to forest, u can actually see some of the praire boats with pots in them at the forest dock but anyways, forest took them and built an industry that used these pots of light and combined them with organic material to make a power diamond
Tried to make it short as possible
Ahh that one
they drained light from creatures?
No itâs not
heres a quick headcanon
Ahhh thatâs an even longer theory
opening sequence
With the stars united, our light was infinite.
But darkness came, and the stars fell...
Together, the fallen stars made a new home in the clouds.
If only they had listened...
A long time has passed. Now, I call to you.
Wake up, child. Bring our lost stars home.
they drained light from creatures, because no light, creatures died, creatures dead body made krill
Me, and a bunch of other people helped develop and make the 2 shields theory but Iâm not gonna tsk about it rn
darkness is a natural part of this world
"darkness came" implies it was already there
yeah the intro is definately saying the stars are the elders
as if the stars fled eden because of the darkness
Krills are probably the consequence of the big diamond project, or used to be allies of the wasteland warriors that look out for invaders
Oh itâs confirmed too âdarkness was a natural part of the world, not something the elders didâ
ye
"fall" could also refer to something more like the Garden of Eden
yeah
as in they did something to get thrown out basically
from the bible
or like the fall of lucifer
but what does âbring our lost stars homeâ mean?
That was something in beta actually
The intro used to say âbut darkness binds so I cast them outâ
the spirits
they got greedy for power and did not heed the warnings of a higher being
ok heres a headcanon
we return the spirits to the stars
do the "stars" refer only to the elders, or could it include the spirits?
I think itâs jus the elders themselves
are the fallen stars different from the lost stars?
The skykid statues in eden ARE the stars bodies we find. their spirits wander the world trying to reunite with their bodies, we take the stars and store them in our cape, to bring back to the statues and revive them
the spirits are elders?
because the lost stars are definitely the spirits
omg just let me write my headcanon
ah
N..
the elders are now spirits?
Nope
Thatâs a good headcanon abt the children
ah
Spirits are called spirits cuz they dead
But they were the passed people that lived on the ground
i see
so in short, my headcanon is that the winged lights are fallen spirits of the statues in eden
My eyes are all over the place
Whoâs turn is it?
I must go. Can't wait to see what people come up with!!
sorry
in case you didnt see
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Or just recap
The skykid statues in eden ARE the stars bodies we find. their spirits wander the world trying to reunite with their bodies, we take the stars and store them in our cape, to bring back to the statues and revive them
maybe not revive but
whatever skykids do with light
Mhm I get what you mean
Interesting
Donât know how to describe it other than not reviving
return their memories
Kind of like reawaken them?
Iâm getting the âwater is memoryâ feels
Well they do burst out of their frozen bodies and ascend with u
you return their spirit
Like a......â WEâRE FREEEE, AAAAHHHâ
it was confirmed that our flames are stored inside us, so maybe the statues work similarly but rather than fire, winged light is stored in them?
They were frozen for too long they forgotten about their morning stretches
well, i call them the same speices as skykids
maybe
but technically
They need their workouts
winged light is âour fuelâ
Like real tiredâs profile pic
i like the theory they were an older generation of skykids who failed their mission
and we always have to carry one winged light to stay alive
I thought maybe they died but they didn't return to the orbit, so our job is to send them back to orbit or something
YES
yes
thats... not how petrifying works
But how would the explosion freeze their bodies?
And their life force wasnât there either
the explosion of eden knocked out their winged light and froze them?
their bodies arent FROZEN
Maybe thatâs why they werenât reborn
theyâre PETRIFIED
theres a BIG difference between FROZEN and PETRIFIED
Frozen doesnât necessarily mean ice
Petrified is BETTER OK I GET IT
i meant like they froze in place
But frozen means a lot of things
but i find it strange how
there are bodies BEFORE the eye
and yet we cant return their light?
WAIT
ok whats different between the bodies in eye and before eye?
In the intro it said â They didnât listenâ does that mean that maybe there were consequences for the spirits that we save?
the ones before eye have crystals growing on them
I think it was the consequences of what the elders did
Yep
The ones in eye was kind of blue also
Maybe
They chose artificial power instead of natural connected power
the ones in eye were pure stone
The spirits just did the dishes for them
I think they figured out how to make the artificial light from what they say from their natural home
Like they took ideas
and if crystal is forming on their bodies
that means theyve been there for a really long time
especially because the crystal is really big now
I think that was a beta reference bc thatâs the same model when darkstone was a thing
what the heck is darkstone
dark stone
That made me remember those two statued sky kids before we go to the hall to the end that were broken to pieces and drifted off by the wind
Wait wha
oh yeah
dark plants trap light thats why when you burn them, they release light
so very fragile bodies?
Speedrun in eden
at the place in eden with both krill and rocks 2 petrified skykids crumble and turn to dust
Aria what were u talking about earlier
Youâll get what i mean
OHH THOSE KIDSSS
hmmmm
no but
ITS A DEADEND
i cant find a reason why THOSE skykids crumble
but the others stay intact
rocks hitting them 24/7
Probably from the rock rain
Several people are typing
Yeah
like, boulders
I feel bad for those two
I donât get why everytime Iâm about to leave, the chat gets active đ
there are also other skykid bodies getting pummeled by rock before those two
and yet they dont crumble
They probably lived a happy life
and theres also the statues in eye
So red rock rain doesnât hurt the statue that much?
Maybe itâs because those two were there longer than the rest?
unless
Well I gtg, have fun theorizing but before I go......flutterN, reika told me the shiny bois are imprints from the child of light
I have my theory, now u can make ur own
Small diamonds
The diamond rain isnât rocks
red rock rain seems to shatter in impact with the ground so maybe theyre more brittle and just break instead of smashing skykid bodies
Ok nope
BUT SEE YALL LATER
oh its diamond
theyre the same red crystal that drain our light
so
we have a bigger weakness to them
My eyelids canât open up any longer i gtg sneep
good night
Gn 
and the rocks before are actual rocks or boulders
the petrified skykids are completely out of light, so red diamonds cant harm them much
and whoâs to say they even hit the ground
hmmmm
but when they burst out their bodies,
they have light now, but still are immune to the rocks
or red diamonds
hmm good point
wait
i just answered it
âburst out of their bodiesâ
that means their bodies break
so the petrified bodies were protecting the light inside
no solid capsule for their spirit to live
no we GAVE them their light back
but they burst out their bodies, as if being reborn
when you die in eden you meet a glowy boi who restores you, right
what if that glowy boi is a winged light, or rather an imprint of the child of light, and restores us just as we restored other skykids using winged light
but the question is
where did he come from?
why is he the only other living thing there
that im not too sure of
you know before orbit?
the part where you fly around
you know what i think it is
your reliving your own memories
bcz along the way, you encounter things like
butterfly pots
jellyfish
the valley citadel arches
hmm
the eldersâ throne room or smthn
you do run into the spirits along the way. it seems like the spirits hop from temple to temple into the sky and you too are now like them
hmmm
Maybe time isnât constant there, and when we wake up and see that shiny boi itâs when another sky kid have saved us so that shiny boi is the winged light that anonymous sky kid gave
so its like
the time youâre falling
is not constant?
as in you could be falling for who knows how long
yeah until someone saves you
speaking of time
Itâs like right before you wake up in the morning, it doesnât seem long but it has been 8 hours(or less)
what if this whole journey through sky and to eden
is one big storyline
and when you go back to a realm, you replay your story there
when you enter an area, you restart your replay your story there
I think itâs another life since itâs not the same story as before
because when you reenter an area, not much changes
But YOU changed
theres an effect for that
i forgot what its called
wasnt it bootstrap paradox or smthn
wait no thats different
imma go continue by candle runs
You havenât finished it?!
Is the prince still here in the current cannon?
Well I don't think so..
Nah if he did we prolly wouldâve noticed by now
But Jen did said Sky Children of The Light is like the first chapter of the story
So if the king, prince, or megabird etc is in game, they might be in later updates
I believe the king is in cannon, just not around anymore
Has anyone explored this part of eden out of bounds? If yes can u please send me screenshots
You can go there oob?
I have. let me see if I have pics
Ooo Iâd like to see too 
ohh i have a couple too
Are there any wind walls trying to avoid you getting higher?
Like if youâre doing the table glitch
yeah, there's some above the walls
idk how clear these are
the clouds here will help you regain light if you get close enough to them. Can be hard to get to them if you're out of light
I see mostly pillars and some statue like things
its really hard to see these might wanna turn up brightness or something
most of my pics are of what's behind that
theres also this if it helps
though idk if its the current eden
SKY ART BOOK!!????
???!!??!?!!!

And look at all that text we can't read or theorise over
If only we had one of those CSI "Enhance" machines
Thank u everyone, I jus wanted to see what those tower rock thingies were
But hey
Oreo is reading a nice book there...
I wanna snatch it đ
Oreo is so cute reading that book 
What is Oreo reading tho I wanna know 
That journey player plush doll looking at oreo
I want the book
His little tongue sticking out omg đđ
that's the Edge
SKY ART BOOK!!????
@spring blaze
the title of the article is Out of the Blue
aw :(
Wait wait wait what?
I archived the text in pdf file but I donât think i can share it, you can google it for the full article
Google what exactly?
But Jen did said Sky Children of The Light is like the first chapter of the story
Ok WHAT NOW
If you havenât used apple news, you can use your free trial to read the issue
So we're expecting more

So we can expect upgraded krills
Maybe big whales will eat the krill
And be bad whales
Thats why they had whales as their concept art

Just theorizing
What if the krill aren't even big
Coz whales are supa big
And the mantarays are the good guys


@jade galleon wait wait wait Iâm confused
U Said u archived the art book ginsy is talking about?
The one with oreo reading it
Also I'm thinking that maybe if we ride the big fishy in secret forest, u can actually teleport to Wasteland

I know this isnât much, and itâs also pretty obvious but one confirmed thing I can say that I got earlier is that the 2nd vault level is supposed to metaphorically represent the forest level, and our perspective of vault supposed to be a like a revisiting journey from the past to tell us a story of what made the world the way it is and its main history. Itâs also supposed to be like a history preparation before you go into the âbrutalityâ of the eye of eden
Ok i jus learned something else
All the levels in vault represent a realm
took you that long
lol
Well i knew about it but I knew about it theory wise
Now I know itâs confirmed
And Iâm currently watching every single livestream made đ
Iâm rlly desperate for new lore or lore we missed and so far I learned a lot of stuff
Thatâs why we have fanlore
I might be several months late to notice but thereâs a sad face in wasteland

@compact scarab in the sky there are three holes near the gate to battlefield that look like a person screaming.
Also anyone know what type of structure the buildings in the valley are
Awww sad wasteland đ
wut there is a sad face
Another one for the boat album, on top of the area at the side of Isle
I think it's the only one in Isle with pots in?
Others have pots beside them (where the butterflies are)
Thereâs other boats with pots in them but in isle itself, I never saw any
i have taken pics of all the boats, so imma turn it into an album today!
Are there any butterfly spots where pots aren't also nearby? (besides prarie)
Are they solely native to prarie?
theres some in the tree tunnels in the final area too
Aren't there broken pots strewn around that area?
and on those broken tree branches behind the skeleton whale
oh yeah the butterflies on broken tree branches
are there butterflies in valley-
yeah in the stadium
Not all boats have pots on them
yeah
slightly related, but i just realized the gate into the hidden forest temple depicts pots of presumably butterflies being turned into diamonds
Well
OMG
Ur kinda late
GINSY U TOO???
HABDBSDJ
I didnât realize that
look
AND YOU TOO
i skip the door opening cutscene
Also
omgomgomg omg omg
hebcekjfskd
Guys u donât kno about the power diamond thingy
wym
YOU GUYS DIDNâT N O TI C E D
omg
Here we go agaiinnnn

