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humble barn
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there are some variations in spellings

sly kestrel
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Tsadi/tzaddi

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Pronounced the same tho

humble barn
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but aylin (in the art) is off

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yes

sly kestrel
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Can’t rlly tell if it says Aylin since it’s a little blurry

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But that’s jus me

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I’m blind 🙂

humble barn
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someone had a larger picture and and transcribed them just after the livestream last month

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couldn't find the pic

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I took a screenshot myself. are the letters more legible? a bit?

drifting copper
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isn’t teth the forest elder

humble barn
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yes

drifting copper
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hmmm

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semitic

humble barn
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9th?

drifting copper
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19th?

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wait no 9

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when followed by an apostrophe it represents the number 9000

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jsshjsjs big dumb in pain

humble barn
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I think they were like code names, could mean nothing at all. devs do not use those names anymore you know

drifting copper
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true

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also earlier littlekrill was a bit late on catching up with all the basic things we see in game

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power diamonds and stuff

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i just think the diamonds on our masks are a symbol of a certain tribe or family emblem

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lmao yeah could be that too or we just opened our eyes and they go ZOOM

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well i don’t think so we can still function without the diamonds once we lose all light

sudden sleet
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Re: Teth and such—All of those names are names of Hebrew letters

drifting copper
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plus there’s also the option of not wearing a mask so oof

sudden sleet
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I looked up the meaning of them on some websites and posted it here a while back, though I am no expert of Hebrew

humble barn
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@sudden sleet I don't know if the meaning of letters were related to the elders or not, but I looked back your post and found that some other elders names have also been confirmed!! I remember reading your post but totally forgot that

sudden sleet
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If anyone is able to keep track of everything posted in this channel, they are super human anyway SkyLOL

humble barn
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SkyLOL and I even forget what I have said

paper matrix
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AJFHDSKH

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straight up sexy in there

soft carbon
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The image is blurred for me but from what I can see that is HILARIOUS

paper matrix
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got i think it says

sand abyss
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can’t read the first word but
Bitter
Sexy
drunk????
possessed

hexed turret
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Did I see a lantern?

paper matrix
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symbol (cynical???)
bitter
sexy
dark
possessed
mysterious

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gloweyes yes you do

hexed turret
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I gotta get that lantern design

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And maybe add some things

paper matrix
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ive got a closeup in-game sc of the mask too if youd like! holy

maiden glen
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The first word is either symmetrical or cynical I cannot. Tell,,,, hm

spring blaze
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'human world object'

wind bone
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I think it’s supposed to be cynical but they just spelled it wrong

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Symmetrical is too long

maiden glen
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you right, hm,

spring blaze
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yeah

maiden glen
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KSKSKS “human world object” I’m,,

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I love the lantern on the umbrella concept though,, very fitting for forest

spring blaze
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what do they mean by possessed

maiden glen
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I don’t know and I wanna know

spring blaze
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maybe its the drunk part lolol

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rainy aunt is fun aunt

maiden glen
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PFPFPFPF probably,,

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hopefully

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we don’t need no possessing spirits up in here pEyes

spring blaze
sand abyss
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“Vacation Juice” omg

drifting copper
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cynical auntie

paper matrix
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shes carried a little bit off that personality to the current design jhsdUFHJDKSF

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"concerned only with one's own interests and typically disregarding accepted standards in order to achieve them."

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and she just

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yanks dat light out of your hands

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we still love her though

mental sable
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We stan

paper matrix
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we stan a feral legend

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with sexy as a personality trait

mental sable
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Honestly tho?? Love the marking details

drifting copper
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t h i c c

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is she still thicc i forgot already hehhdbdjd

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i have to sa y the early design was too sexy for kids to witness

maiden glen
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Aaaaaa! Hey! Lore peeps!

I am putting together an album of all the murals you can find in game,

Though for certain ones like the SkyPoint spirit , that only show in the spirit cutscenes I can’t get on my own

So if anyone has good shots of the murals for spirit specific murals (that in,y show up if you relive it) I’d love it if you could send them to me SkyTada

crimson grove
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Pretty sure I took pictures of all the murals during relive quests (not cutscenes) like the SkyPoint one, you can check the album at pinned messages here ^^

maiden glen
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Thank youuuuuu pSkyHeart

crimson grove
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Looking forward to your album!

maiden glen
paper matrix
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I always thought that wasteland himbo n vault mom had the same goal holy

for wasteland dude, the city is in ruins but there seems to be one last stand left; the vault

and so they both tryna protect the things that remain after everything around them collapses 🥺

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lord knows they need one

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well-needed hugs aside

sand abyss
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too....many .... CRABS

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Pringle Dad can not take care of his crab children at all sLUL

mystic moat
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“Pringle Dad”? SkyLOL

sand abyss
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sorry but he’ll forever be the pringle dad to my heart SkyLOL

drifting copper
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crabs

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i wonder what they taste l i ke

mystic moat
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Probably like crab

drifting copper
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like normal crabs?

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i mean i think they have more shell than meat

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why do they look like chicken

paper matrix
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this is the most defining crab lore because

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this confirmed that Crab Have Bones

drifting copper
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yeah

paper matrix
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can i get uuuuuh

drifting copper
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ch i c k e n

paper matrix
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YO

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GUYS

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WE WERE ROBBED

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THESE ARE SO PRETTY

drifting copper
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JDHDJSDBJDDH

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omg

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so pretty

paper matrix
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this is my favourite channel because of how feral it gets

jovial nacelle
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I realised when you look at the shadow of your sky kid, you only see the body, not the wings.

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So, the wings is just light.

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We are wearing to fly

maiden glen
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I’d LOVE to see those in future seasons ong.

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Give. Ribbons that would be so nice,,,

sly kestrel
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@jovial nacelle our cosmetics are invisible too, and that kinda makes sense because......we are getting them from dead people

jovial nacelle
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God, that is... wrong-

scarlet wren
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krhdirjfjfn

clever marten
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Ghost clothes

paper matrix
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ghlothes

clever marten
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Love me some ghlothes

sly kestrel
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I know this isn’t lore related, but Happy New year everyone

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Hopefully in 2020 tgc will give us some really good ghlothes

stoic abyss
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Good lord imagine a group of those chasing you with two feet

scarlet wren
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imagine the graceful gallop instead

drifting copper
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crabs were supposed to be walking 2 legged??

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spooky

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kinda like a weird version of thumbelina

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crabelina

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also oh god while doing the cry emote spirit again i just realised they made graves for their friends

hushed steeple
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@drifting copper ikr! That was dark

hushed steeple
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Anyone know/have any theories about these eggs? Is it a leftover from a season or what?

nimble lance
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@hushed steeple I always just assumed they were “literally” Easter eggs

drifting copper
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yeah pretty sure they’re just easter eggs

finite onyx
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I thought “Easter eggs” or “Manta eggs”

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Also this solidifies a theory!
The pots from prairie were probably transferred in boats to forest. It details that on the murals.

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Has anyone else noticed something.

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(Sorry if im saying it again?? I don’t think my message sent before)

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The constellations show what each kingdom was about (?)

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And or each elder’s symbol,

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Like Vault’s probable storage units?

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For sure Forest’s industrial nature + the hammer and anvil forest has at the end

modest sequoia
paper matrix
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USISJKSDHDJFJFFJ

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YOU MAKE ME UN POCO LOCO

finite onyx
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I really want to get elder capes ghghfgdg then ill finally have the chance to rep Vault dad heck ye

Though GHFGDDD GD D I CANT

paper matrix
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AUTOCORRECT

finite onyx
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RUNNING CRAB

paper matrix
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I want Forest Wife

finite onyx
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Ooh that’d look super cool

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Wearing something similar to her dress

paper matrix
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So like

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What an incentive

errant rivet
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@ what u guys said about the easter eggs: if those are manta eggs in-lore, it would honestly be really cute if thats what they looked like

maiden glen
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RUNNING CRAB S pFIRE

wind bone
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@errant rivet they are dragon eggs

sand abyss
sly kestrel
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No
They’re mine

sand abyss
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Jay running with the eggs !!

cosmic portal
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Just something i thought about the spirits, when you relive their memories, it's likely their final memories before they died. The crying and SkyFaint <- this emote (I dont know what to call it) are good examples of how this can apply. They most likely turned into dark plants since there are large chunks near the statue reliving thing

sly kestrel
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Not all of them tho

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Like the cheer emote

barren path
sand abyss
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oh...my...

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wHeeeeeze

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THE CRAB!

last wigeon
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Sir , sir control your service crab in the TSA. Search area!

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I don’t think they’d let me and my anti anxiety service crab on the plane

modest sequoia
green pine
dusk sluice
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There are some strange stone things on the ground which I thought were the graves of her friends but it looks like these would be graves (second picture)

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Took the time to analyze the crying spirits memories

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Looks like they got trapped by the dark plants

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Tried to mine their way out possibly

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Rocks collapsed

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Two died while the other two tried to save them

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The part thats really sad is how it looks like the final friend left looks really chill while he’s stuck at the dark plant

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Its like he tries to comfort the girl

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Then he dies and then we dont know what happens to the crying spirit

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Well she eventually dies actually because she’s a spirit but we dont quite know how

worthy cipher
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I thought the three little bright objects are boats?

crimson grove
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It looks like a grave made out of a pile of rocks

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I’m pretty sure I’ve seen it (at some point, maybe older versions) in game before

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Maybe they just moved them to the other spot later? Or the glowing ones don’t represent the actual location

worthy cipher
crimson grove
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Yeah that’s usually what the game uses for graves... you can even see the ones in the second picture from Galactic are the same broken graves

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This area changed a lot through development so I wouldn’t be surprised if the difference is just an oversight

scarlet wren
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not all graves have to look the same to be graves

crimson grove
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After a bit of hunting found this old picture from the beta. This used to be oob in the forest (not sure which area tho) and you can see both graves more clearly

scarlet wren
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oooOO

worthy cipher
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OOOOOOO

sand abyss
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well danng

crimson grove
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Just slightly different from now because before every spirit would have their own grave like that

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I always thought about that actually. You would see graves everywhere in the game, marking the spirits location... who built them? pEyes

worthy cipher
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Have you seen Journey?
There are a lot of headstones too....

crimson grove
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Yeah, it definitely gave some journey vibes to see them

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I think it makes more sense to see the actual spirits like we do now

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(If only we could relive their memories whenever we wanted SkyCry)

worthy cipher
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as seen in the SkyCry , people are mining away the plants.
So the humans/spirits can't burn them like we do?

crimson grove
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I think the spirits didn’t have the power/blessing of light we do

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We keep our candles in our chest anyway as long as we have light we have flame

worthy cipher
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oh yeah...!

crimson grove
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We do see lanterns everywhere so it’s safe to assume the spirits used them tho

worthy cipher
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ahh yes :)
the sprits in the vault peek into the lanterns.
like they are studying a manuscript.
could the lanterns be the equivalence of books?

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I'm asking so many questions XD

crimson grove
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The ones in the shelves at vault almost seemed sealed, and they have blue lights too

worthy cipher
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so there are different types of lanterns pThink

crimson grove
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Maybe SkyThink

wary prism
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Very late but the rock piles show up outside the exit of the forest caverns

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Another rock pile but not the exact same appearance by the gate near the shiver spirit

worthy cipher
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so... people died there? pThink

crimson grove
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I’m trying to find a picture of old home when friends shrines were scattered around the place, I’m pretty sure they were those rocks at some point (which is pretty ominous pEyes)

worthy cipher
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OMG so your friends are all dead?
Beautiful! SkyLOL SkyHug

dusk sluice
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Maybe if we find all the rock pile locations in the game we may be able to figure out what they are supposed to be?

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Like tbh its kind of weird the someone would just be like “ok well person died here lets not bring them to any like cemetery area or something and instead bury them here and give them a pile of stones as a grave. Perfect!”

wary prism
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for the cry spirit it seems more like they used the rock piles as makeshift graves?

dusk sluice
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Perhaps they had different uses

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Maybe she used the rocks that she and her friend broke while trying to get their friends out of the rock collapse thing

crimson grove
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I think they might be used for different things, like graves made out of rocks when you have nothing else to bury your friends with SkyCry

maiden glen
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THE FRIEND SHRINES OKAY LET ME-

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You see your friends in orbit right? So it’s safe to say they may be some of the ones you “save” (ignoring game mechanics and focusing on lore)

this is silly ah let me. Think

vale ridge
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Alright
From now on, I will write down every idea presented in this channel. I will keep it on a document. I will keep records and photos. I feel like so many ideas have already been brought up but has also been forgotten because there’s just too many things to explore and learn. I also want to see how much people agree on an idea and I want them to determine how valid it is. So from this message forward I will write any new idea presented(and I guess I’ll also try to scroll up as far up as possible).

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I’ll be some type of secretary or historian :))

dusk sluice
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There has been an idea before that the whale bones in forest are from a whale that crashed into the tree ahead of it. I believe they thought when it landed the shake it caused could have been the reason for the cave in the crying spirit area to collapse

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boop#6494

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They’re the person

crimson grove
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@maiden glen take a look at this removed feature (it was added very shortly just before launch, and removed after a brief period of testing)

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Statues had favorited friends’ names above them biblethump

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So your theory is not as silly as you think ^^

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I believe it was removed because it was a lot of clutter on the screen, but the meaning might still be the same

maiden glen
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OMDNDJ I. Was right? Ong-

Well now I’m sad,,

Bbs

autumn kite
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Sad

dusk sluice
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So this means,,,,

my friend kat has been not doing so well on her eden runs,,

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KAAAAAATTT

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Anyways this is pretty cool

maiden glen
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LCMDND KAT YOU GOTTA SAVE UR FRIENDS MAN

cosmic portal
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I wish there was a mechanic that when you die when others are with you you spawn a statue

maiden glen
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:0

scarlet wren
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OH IS THAT WHY YOU SEE YOUR FRIENDS AT THE END OF ORBIT

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that’s so eerie omg

sand abyss
scarlet wren
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oh and that would also make the crown constellation make more sense why it holds your favourited friends

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and why it’s associated with Eden :0

worthy cipher
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this is a little late... but,
shall we add pictures/films for the old cloud island in isle to the picture collection?
TGC completely rebuilt it.

paper matrix
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I found the smiley face hidden at the back at Ayin’s temple aww

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AND LIKE

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WHAT IF HE MADE IT

drifting copper
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bro

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does that mean

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we’re all just failed attempts

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at restoring the light

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every reborn we’re a new sky kid

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hdhdjdhdhdhd

abstract badger
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No, we succeed little by little

elfin vessel
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@scarlet wren yes that does add more sense to the crown constellation

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@worthy cipher Please do share 🙂

sullen meadow
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@scarlet wren do u know if one can go through the opening of eden... tried today come so close but yet so far...

scarlet wren
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not sure what you mean..?

elfin vessel
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The diamond in the distance? It's not an opening, it's a diamond

hushed steeple
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I was right there once

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But I died

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Maybe one day I’ll just ignore all statues an try when I’m bored

elfin vessel
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I think you might get knocked back by rocks before you get close

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I've only seen it on a video when there's a glitch and no rocks

sand abyss
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so when looking at the Valley and Wasteland masks
I had like thoughts as to how, maybe they're some sort of ranking system

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But at the same time....not really????

mystic moat
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I do like the sound of that

sand abyss
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( oh man I need better hairstyle for these masks....visors??? idk )

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( had to change it back to my rabbit mask )

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and also, the first pic is like the only one that doesn't have the two pointy things

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unlike the other three masks

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also for the second and third pics, the middle part are slightly wider than the last pic

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hmm lemme see if I could edit these pics brb!

mystic moat
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I reckon the rankings go: third pic, second pic, first pic, fourth pic

sand abyss
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hmm I guess?

mystic moat
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The third’s from the look out spirit so probably a scout

sand abyss
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Also what's strange about Valley and Wasteland is that
both of them has two masks each

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Whereas for every other worlds

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one

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And those four masks?

mystic moat
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All but Prairie and Isle have 2 capes

sand abyss
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Warriors wear them

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mhmm

mystic moat
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Valley actually had 3 masks

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The “No Mask” Mask

sand abyss
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ah right the no mask from the red cape spirit

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hmm... Im not too sure about that one since its technically just a warrior spirit with no mask

mystic moat
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Maybe his mask was taken from him?

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Deranked

sand abyss
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👀

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oooooo

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And the fact that his stance is

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the crossed arms stance

mystic moat
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Sulking because he got kicked out of the army

sand abyss
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who knows who knows 👀

mystic moat
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Wait, what if masks are their, like, profession

sand abyss
mystic moat
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The sweat emote has a jar mask

sand abyss
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And the deep bow has the diamond mask

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And the teleknesis spirit has that long mask

mystic moat
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I mean, it works

sand abyss
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ah wait

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Onto the valley masks ( excluding the no mask spirit )

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( also yes someone has pointed out that the second mask to the right may based off the Whale, or at least the skull of it )

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aka

paper matrix
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holy OHHHHH

sand abyss
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holy moly wait just....just realised soemthing

paper matrix
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Oh?gloweyes

sand abyss
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This mask right?

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Looks kinda like the Forest Mask

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Aka the diamond mask

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every other masks?

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theres no blue part

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HMMMMMMMMM

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ah crab my nose itchy

raw grail
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I don’t need sleep, I need answers

sand abyss
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Perhaps Forest and Valley had some close connections or something???

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_s a me _

raw grail
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Design maybe?

sand abyss
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eh, maybe

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might be overthinking at this point

raw grail
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It’s the lore channel, overthinking can lead to interesting discussions

sand abyss
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true true extra_hyper_eyes

raw grail
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Another random thing do dwiddle about (made up word)

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What do you think the symbols mean on the vault mask?

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I dont have a photo of it Rn but it’s just something on the back of my mind

sand abyss
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Perhaps some written knowledge only the sholars know of?

raw grail
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Perhaps

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I mean like, it looks a bit like the diamond mask from forest

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Or.... something

sand abyss
raw grail
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I’m not great with theories, I just wanted to think of some sort of topic

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Like, how come this grave only glows when you light the candles?

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wait a second...

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I’ll be back

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Couldn’t find the photo, anyway, those grave in the photo are place on what looks like miniature bell towers

sand abyss
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Noooooot the best analysis

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buuut here my ehhh take on those four masks

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so hot...over here

coral quail
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Note that the antennae on 4 stick out at a wider angle than 1

sand abyss
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mhmm!

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forgot to add that but yup, the antennae for number 4 is wider than number 1

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though not as curved as number 3

crimson grove
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@raw grail before, graves would indicate where you could find spirits and you could get the emotes by lighting the candles in front of the graves. Glowing graves would indicate what emotes you didn’t have yet (this was very relevant back when we used to lose emotes in Eden)

My guess is because 8land hasn’t changed at all since that time, the concept is still the same given you always watch the cutscene after lighting all candles (as if you were unlocking an emote you didn’t have)

sly kestrel
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Back when capes had awesome patterns

sullen meadow
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Which location was this picture taken at @crimson grove

crimson grove
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It was aviary

sullen meadow
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That location has been removed right?

crimson grove
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Yeah

sly kestrel
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Aww

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I miss the aviary

ember temple
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The antennae look like horns to me ngl @sand abyss

raw grail
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Woah, thanks!

gentle smelt
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Just noticed something 😳, when we bring out our candle the light on our chest goes out... I guess that’s where sky kids carry their light

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Sorry for the quality it wouldn’t send the video otherwise

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Also this may be a bug but the face 😷 mask has the forehead diamond switched off 🤔

scarlet wren
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some some had discovered there’s 3 variations of the default mask

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i asked some friends and some of them did have those various masks, one of the variants has the non-glowing diamond

gentle smelt
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I wonder if it means anything

tall narwhal
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So

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Apparently there was a way to spawn a krill in the office?

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Has that been disabled for the holidays?

crimson grove
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The office decorations and stuff change sometimes, the krill was for Halloween. But as it’s an Easter egg it’s not really lore related

sly kestrel
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Idk if u are talking about the toilet krill but yea that was a long time ago

dense flint
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Oh, I didn’t know it was a mask

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I thought that was just our face

scarlet wren
maiden glen
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It’s a mask yes SkyTada

scarlet wren
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this photo is w/o mask

maiden glen
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Oooooh maskless looks so nice with the flower cape from Lightseekers,, wish I got it,

dense flint
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How do you take off the mask

maiden glen
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It’s a cosmetic from one of the valley spirits, 30 hearts SkyCry

scarlet wren
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i use it all the time tbh

maiden glen
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I do too,,

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So nice

dense flint
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Well I’ll get it eventually I guess

tribal osprey
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Wait wait wait, was there an interview recently? Where am I seeing all that concept art from?

scarlet wren
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Well, there’s the Elder live stream and Belonging livestream that showed off concept art. But there’s also an album of concept art in the pins

tribal osprey
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Can you send me all the concept art,

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?

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Dm it if possible

scarlet wren
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i mean all the links are in this channels pins

tribal osprey
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Ah, ok!

silk salmon
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So, can I put my idea

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Of the krill king?

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I mean it sounds corny, but

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he hangs out in eden, but doesnt attack

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He talks to you

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Close by, but rarely visible

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Trying to coerce or scare you

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Here’s an example of what he says,

We’re created just to die
The spirits sins are reason why
They all feared what hides from the sun
Might as well have some fun!

When the light is running low,
And the shadows start to grow,
And the places that you know,
Cut away the afterglow,

There’s a light inside your soul,
Slowly shrinking in the cold,
From the truth deep down you know,
And yet darker we will go!

(Insert pic)

fleet wolf
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awww so cute

bright hollow
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Never seen that before

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What is it

fleet wolf
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i wanna pet it
and then run away from it as far as i can

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concept art

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for krills i believe

silk salmon
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My concept art of a krill king

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The first king ran off when skykids started bringing light back, but left his crown

sudden sleet
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@silk salmon Discussion about lore based on what’s been hinted in the game is fine, but fan art and other fan creations should stay in other channels so that the lore discussion is easier to navigate SkyFistBump

silk salmon
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ok

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The pic is in fanart anyone who reads this

vale ridge
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Sooo muuuuch infoorrrmmaattiioon
But all the theories that I’ve been reading are so good. So I’ve written down all the ideas presented from Last Monday to now. I’ve also written old but detailed theories like the Ark Project and the creation of the Diamond Eye. I’ve also tried my best to write down the information provided by the concept arts. I’ve organized them into sections(History, Spirit Stories, Culture/Daily Life, Geography, Environment, Symbols/Objects/Architecture, Creatures/Animals blah blah blah). I’m also gonna be soon recording the Two Shield Theory. The first to identify that there were two types of shields was ginsy on 10/26/2019. The first to theorize that the sky people have fought eachother based off of that fact was Granny Pigeon 11/24/2019. I mean ginsy did admit on 10/29/2019 that he thought of there being a civil war BUT he doubted the idea. ANYWAY, I’m so excited to record more LORE.

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8 WHOLE PAGES OF INFORMATION

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PHEW

sand abyss
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dannng the amount of backlog you went through

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mad respect yo

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Pigeon was the one who brought up the theories of the Two Shields

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_meanwhile me and Jay were the one who further extended the theory out, to the point it gets everyone talking _

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Also good luck keeping record for the theories Butter!!!

vale ridge
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YES AND ALL OF YOUR INPUT WILL BE RECORDED ALONG WITH YOURE NAMEE~~

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:)))

sand abyss
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Make sure to credit Pigeon and Ginsy with the big bold font~ hehee they deserve it really

vale ridge
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Haha I will :))

livid valve
finite ether
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Hmm

sand abyss
finite ether
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Try scrolling over?

livid valve
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🤔

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Yes of course!

sand abyss
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you sure you look around....right????

livid valve
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Ofc

finite ether
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Lol

sand abyss
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that...interesting you brought up

finite ether
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U

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M

sand abyss
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cos I don't remember seeing Isle or Prairie Elders at all...

finite ether
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I honestly have no idea

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Yeah

livid valve
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Me too idk why at all

sand abyss
finite ether
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Wait there are

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Elders

sand abyss
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but not the one Mei showed

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unless there is

finite ether
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Hm

livid valve
finite ether
sand abyss
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Hmmm idk....

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Either A)

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The devs forget to add those two in

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or B)

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it was intentional for them not to appear

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WHICH BEGS THE QUESTIONS
WHAT HAPPENED?!

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are these elders at Orbit played the important roles to the point they up there ?

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after all

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we're in the lore channel

livid valve
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Uhm okay I’ll report it but...

sand abyss
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If you're only here to post about your gameplay at Eden
Its best to move it at #eden-spoilers

livid valve
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Why is there eden only in isle and prairie elders cutscenes

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Ah gotcha thanks!

sand abyss
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And everyone else are inside the temple

livid valve
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Hm

spare sonnet
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So I’m going to go back to a week or so ago to ask about something we said

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How exactly are the batteries made in the forest? Did we say with the wood?

maiden glen
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this gives me the idea that they weren’t really involved in the “conflict” that may or may not have happened,,, or they are excluded BECAUSE they chose neutrality,,,,, HMMMMMM

pEyes

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thinking

humble barn
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@livid valve if you make a big call, you can see the rest of them. so I think it's a bug we are missing some elders there. actually those line elders were totally invisible in some devices.

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@spare sonnet We don't know how exactly are the diamonds were made, but the gate cutscene suggests they have been combining something from the trees with something in the jarsSkyPose

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and the forest elder in their own cutscene looks like they are fixing a diamond not making one?

spare sonnet
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But out of all objects, trees? Thanks by the way

humble barn
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sure!

spare sonnet
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I do wonder why they have an anvil and hammer, it must be for a reason because those dont craft wood anyway

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Or I might be rambling, again...

humble barn
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where they hammering butterflies

spare sonnet
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Ackh

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I think we wondered too far again

humble barn
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yeah I wish we had more canonical info on diamond production

spare sonnet
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But now I’m determined to find out why it’s an anvil and hammer

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The things elders do all represent something

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Like the prairie elder, who is a parallel to Pandora’s box

elfin vessel
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I'm intrigued by the orb of light

sand abyss
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Oh

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Oh my

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they used the diamonds and potentially the butterflies to make those golden diamonds we see in the temple

humble barn
sand abyss
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Ok there we go!

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_theres the other two SkyLOL _

humble barn
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I meant to edit the earlier post to mei but failed, anyway, yeah those are the rest of the elders found by my sis

sly kestrel
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🤨

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I may be dumb but

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Where did u find that mural of those elders

humble barn
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in the orbit

sand abyss
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up in the skies~

sly kestrel
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All I saw was the credits symbol and 3 skykids holding hands

humble barn
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and some cannot see them at all, it depends on the device it seems

sly kestrel
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Do I have to unlock the ultimate rewards for me to see it?

elfin vessel
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I've never seen that either

humble barn
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i think it's unrelated to unlocking the constellation, the mural was there (always partly missing but probably always visible through big calls) since I was a newbie

sly kestrel
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Ooooh

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I’ll try that then

humble barn
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I am not sure if the big calls will make the elders in sky visible to all people (devices), maybe I should try that with another device too.

vale ridge
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I’m pretty sure you only see them when you walk far enough down the star path

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Because I only see all of them when I’m really close to the portal

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And sometimes I can only see some at a different angle

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It’s kinda like when you get close to the portals at home, you can see their constellations

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And you can only see them at a certain angle

humble barn
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I could see them from anywhere in that area but maybe people who couldn't can see them through the gate!!

vale ridge
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Oop yeah I’m wrong. I remember being able to see them anywhere I was in orbit.

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But I remember having a hard time getting a pic of the entire mural ^the pic I sent

I remember that they kept on chopping off parts of the constellations when I was looking at them at a different angle

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I got really frustrated because my camera angle kept on resetting to its “proper” angle

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Like it kept on moving, and the vault Eder would disappear from the sky

humble barn
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I probably stumble and reborn before taking a good pic like that but I will try that next time I go there

warped reef
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Fun fact: those murals are remnants of the old Eden, where you lost emotes and not winged light and you could actually survive 👀

sly kestrel
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That thingy the wasteland elder is holding
Looks like something from the old concept art

spring blaze
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yeah the isle and prairie elder is like cut off from the sky, i dont rlly understand why

crimson grove
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That thingy was a battle paddle SkyLOL

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Wasteland elder used to carry a really big paddle instead of a spear

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That got changed very early on to a spear tho

scarlet wren
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also battle paddle makes me laugh

worthy cipher
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nice picture!

spring blaze
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i love prairie dad

silk salmon
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Who is talking at this part?

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Morgan freeman?

hasty surge
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a crab perhaps

sand abyss
vale ridge
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writing down Morgan Freeman and a crab as possible open narrators

maiden glen
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pgpfofofof

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My biggest question though seriously ,,,, wHO is the narrator like. ????

vale ridge
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Some people think it’s Vault Vault

maiden glen
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I theorized that actually because the Vault elder seems so much more tired than the others,,

They actually just get more defeated as you go when you compare Valley to Wasteland and Vault-
She seems the one Most willing to help the children on their journey to recover the realms, and the most weary SkyCry

Poor Vault mom, I’d hug her if I could

hushed steeple
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I thought of the Vault elder as... knowing or understanding what happened to the previous children at eden. and just.. so sad and tired

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when they hand you that diamond thing, I thought of that moment as like sadness for the skykid + "this is our last chance"

scarlet wren
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I was thinking it was Vault Elder as well

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out of all of them, it seems like she was expecting you

icy solar
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Pro-tip! When confronted by a krill, if you have time, use the fake death emote to make them not see you for a second to give you time to hide!

scarlet wren
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while a good tip, not sure if this is the right place to put it idk

icy solar
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Yeah, iunno

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Suggestions I guess?

scarlet wren
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probably better when you can give that advice when some one asks for it

icy solar
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Yea

scarlet wren
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since things eventually get drowned out, also suggestions isn’t really the right channel either

icy solar
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🤷🏼‍♂️

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Your conversation made me think of the poster in the office area with the stages of life

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I started to see a lot more in some areas and that stuff

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Pretty cool

scarlet wren
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yeah! It’s really nice to just explore to see stuff you might’ve missed just playing normally

edgy kernel
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How come I could walk thru the TV in the office and get out in space? But I cant seem to do it again

scarlet wren
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that’s only available on certain days

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also this is the wrong channel for this question

edgy kernel
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Aha I thought this was spoilers channel

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Since people above me talked about the office

crimson grove
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This channel is for lore discussion. You can ask office questions in #questions-and-help with spoiler tags

edgy kernel
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aha thanks I thought it was Spoilers, lore discussion

sly kestrel
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Anything in the office isn’t lore
Well....except the posters and that huge spiny thingy at the portal

edgy kernel
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Ye I know now thanks !But first I thought this channel was Spoilers AND lore discussion 🙂

sly kestrel
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The spoiler part is for eden and rebirth and stuff

vale ridge
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I think it would make more sense for it to be called just “lore discussion.” But I understand why they put “spoilers” at the beginning. So that it could serve as a warning that there will be spoilers in the channel.

sly kestrel
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Yea

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Someone trying to talk about lore and all of a sudden they’re like “wait what, WE SUPPOSED TO DIE AND LOSE ALL OUR STARS??? AHHHH”

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We don’t want that to happen

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So we kinda need that “spoiler” part

scarlet wren
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just seems like a really common issue where ppl think this is just the spoiler channel

sand abyss
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Hmm.. true

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I think it best to just tell them they're in the wrong channel

scarlet wren
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i guess so, but it would save a little time if we could make it clearer this is a lore channel haha

sand abyss
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Mhm mhmm

wary prism
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channel description might help too

vale ridge
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Dooood, several people believe that the narrator is the king. Some people think it’s the megabird(including pines). Pines is the only one who said it was the sun(probably said it jokingly tho). And, yes, people also think it was Vault Vault.

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And I also wanna clear up something before putting it down on a document.

Is there a difference between the “eden elder(somebody also said “ultimate elder” haha)” and the king?

scarlet wren
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eden elder is just the king i’m pretty sure

vale ridge
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Phew ok

sly kestrel
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Well I only kno that bc of the posters in the office and all the concept arts

vale ridge
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And the concept names of the elders are a little unclear. What were their concept names? Because I thought(based on the concept arts) it was(going in order) Tsadi, Aylin(Ayin), Teth, Daleth, Lamed, Samekh, and Nef. But Nagati says otherwise, with concept arts backing her up too.

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I know concept names don’t matter but like it’s cool to have that type of information

scarlet wren
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there was concept art with names underneath but if you ask me it’s kinda unclear who’s who

livid valve
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@humble barn ehhhh was that a bug??? Thank you so much I’ll check it again

humble barn
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@livid valve you are welcome! probably a bug but it is fun to find the hidden imagesSkyCall

paper matrix
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holy im watching the start scene again and

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seemingly by someone else; someone in charge of them

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humanoid

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nef?

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it doesnt seem to be vault mom

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because her constellation was cast down too

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but she seemed to pick the closest home to the sky

spring blaze
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all the elders we have in live were cast down

paper matrix
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"if only they had listened"

spring blaze
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i wouldnt really say kingdom. theyre all temples, not castles aside from the one at the mountain. theyre all part of one Kingdom

paper matrix
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holy ohh okay!!

spring blaze
paper matrix
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WOW OHHH SO ITS JUST DIFFERENT PARTS

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i dont really understand the "darkness blinds" part

wind bone
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Blinds your judgement maybe

maiden glen
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Darkness has been a reoccurring thing to “blind” from either judgement or something internal like care.

I think it holds a little more weight here since this game is literally put on the balance scale of light burning out the dark.

I can’t type a whole lot rn ack sorry

paper matrix
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Ohhhhholy

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Is it also why

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When were extinguished

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our eyes are closed?

maiden glen
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Our eyes are always closed pEyes (easily seen when you try on or wear the maskless cosmetic in the closet )

Personally I’ve always thought of the kids having no mouth, eyes closed, and essentially having to learn everything is an analogy to the
“See no evil, speak no evil, do no evil” kinda thing but I’ve forgotten the exact saying SkyLOL

scarlet wren
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that’s wild

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There’s Hear no evil in there as well

spring blaze
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i think the thing is just “hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil” from like 3 monkeys?

scarlet wren
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i think so

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ok so i’m just gonna ramble a bit

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i think there was a question that was just: “How does the vault elevator work”

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probably obvious now, but. That diamond might be the only working diamond other than the door ones.

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and we know that it’s similar to the door ones bc, you have to give it light in order for it to activate

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much like in Vault, you light and find lanterns to power the diamond.

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we also see that it becomes depleted of light, again in Forest the doors eventually close because the diamond also stops being lit

next arrow
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||spoiler||

scarlet wren
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not sure where i’m going with this but i’m just making observations

high pollen
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It doesn’t seem to move—it looks like the “movement” you see on it is actually your vague reflection!

scarlet wren
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hmm

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ahhh i see

high pollen
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Idk wth TGC plans to do with this locked gate. Next season?

scarlet wren
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maybe 👀

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if i had to guess, maybe another expansion for the cave? not sure

sand abyss
vale ridge
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So far, just an empty room with three lanterns

paper matrix
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Wasteland himbo elder’s stone is the only one cracked here?

scarlet wren
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there’s a model of it broken in half

paper matrix
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oOHgloweyes

sand abyss
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Mhmm!

paper matrix
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Who had beef with him

scarlet wren
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When his shrine was outside he gate, after meditating it would be broken in half

paper matrix
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Looks like it’s been repaired by someone

sand abyss
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yeshhh as soon Pigeon showed me the broken version of WL Elder...

paper matrix
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PHHHH

sand abyss
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I was in big shock

scarlet wren
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i think the spear and shield went missing afterward

sand abyss
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Oh yeahhhh they did!!

paper matrix
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His spirit broke out?

scarlet wren
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well

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i guess in that version of his cutscene he actually opens the door for you

sand abyss
paper matrix
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The spear moved to the doorgloweyes

sand abyss
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∠( ᐛ 」∠)_

scarlet wren
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HMMMMM

paper matrix
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Also forgive me if I’m mistaken but
Vault elder is the only one who doesn’t bow in the final scene right?

scarlet wren
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yeah

paper matrix
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could that signify higher rank?

scarlet wren
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although in an earlier version cutscene she actually does kneel

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so i’m not really sure why

sand abyss
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hmmmmmmmmm

paper matrix
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BIG THINK HERE

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It’s plausible

scarlet wren
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i think Vault is very close to eden

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So it is possible she ranked higher

spring blaze
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plus shes the elder of vault of knowledge, possibly the most important building of the entire Kingdom considering that its pretty much a massive library (library of alexandria?). and since the wasteland temple is connected to the tower, and we saw how most of the battle happened near the entrance (and barricaded too) vault is pretty dang important

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being the elder for such an important building, ig she does rank higher than the others. her headpiece shows that shes a scholar too

sand abyss
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even the spirits in Vault are considered as Scholars in that one concept art

spring blaze
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valley may be considered the capital but the kingdom's heart is vault

sand abyss
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Meaning they are well respected class

spring blaze
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imo anyway

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would make sense since theyre in a library lol

sand abyss
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Mhmm mhmm it’s like Valley to Rome and Vault to Alexandria Library

spring blaze
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this season's vault spirit also gives us the wise lookin stance

ionic acorn
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Hi

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Türk var mı

spring blaze
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hi!

zealous sedge
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@ionic acorn this is an English-language only server. Please make sure to post in English only, as stated in the #old-𝚛ules which you accepted when you joined the server. Thank you!

paper matrix
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Theory: model reusage HDKDJDDMFM

paper matrix
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i also wonder what's the significance of her kissing the diamond before offering it to us

hexed turret
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Last of their knowledge maybe

drifting copper
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poor vault vault

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wait she blinks

paper matrix
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yeah maybe!! pEyes

drifting copper
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mwah to the diamond

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tbh i was thinking she was whispering some sort of enchantment onto it so it activates the murals or something

sand abyss
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smooch SkyLOL

drifting copper
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did the eden elder send them a w a y

paper matrix
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sdhRUHJKSDHFDSJ

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WHAT DID SHE DO

drifting copper
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there’s only 6 stars in the opening scene and one HUMANOID THING

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ONLY THING I CAN THIBK OF IS EDEN ELD E RUDJDHD

paper matrix
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YOO THATS WHAT I THOUGHT TOO!!
LIKE THE NARRATOR IS EDEN ELDER

drifting copper
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WAIT NARRATOR IS EDEN ELDER MAKES SENSE

paper matrix
drifting copper
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LIKE THEY’RE THE ONLY ONE WE HAVEN’T S E EN

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AND THEY’RE NOT EVEN AT THEIR REALM SO

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uH MULTIPLE KINGDOMS THEORY PROBABLY

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eden elder must have like

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some big boi role

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like having the ability to send elders away

paper matrix
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i wonder if they all succumbed to the darkness in different ways
or one big fall out

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heehee

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fall

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🥁

drifting copper
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god

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why

paper matrix
drifting copper
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but yeah probably the latter though

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just one big fall out

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industrial revolution really was their downfall lmao

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too little of something is bad but too much of something is worse

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bro

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i still like the idea of multiple kingdoms hhhhh

sudden sleet
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Hey guys—There is a lot of complex and intricate discussion about theories and lore based on evidence in the game and livestreams, and it’s already a lot to wade through and keep up with. There’s not room in this channel for off-topic Sky conversation. That can take place in #general-sky-discussion or DMs, but not here SkyFollow

acoustic walrus
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Not sure if this is a bug, but do we know who this is?
Figure in Vault, just before Eden

mystic moat
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That’s a glitched spirit

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Supposed to fly up but doesn’t

last wigeon
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I've had that happen too and the glitched spirit will charge your light

vivid parcel
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Hi I don’t have a photo of this but in the floating island in isle of dawn there are tiny paintings of mantas on the building

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I think mantas were very important for the sky kids

maiden glen
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You mean in Birds Nest? Yea! Theres little snippets of murals there~ but I don’t think they’re mantas (as they are orange) and may also be a nod to the megabird pFIRE

green pine
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@drifting copper Sky itself is one kingdom, with the (now obliterated) castle lying at the top of Eden, and the other elders have temples, but not castles.

scarlet wren
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i’m 99% sure murals represent Mantas

maiden glen
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Not all of them pEyes

scarlet wren
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If the megabird is special to the people, it sounds more like it would be a centre piece and not so plentiful

white merlin
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are Krill manmade?

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In journey the "krill" are.

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The devs state that many of the light and dark creatures are natural

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but they never actually say krill are natural

scarlet wren
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hmm, i had the though krill are organic but have been augmented by stuff but i don’t have anything to back that up

stuck wave
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Sky children are stars right? But they have earthly forms when landing on the earth. During the time of ascension however, they shine bright as stars - maybe that’s their true form?

finite onyx
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The krill feel like they're manmade, they make metallic klank-y sounds when they go by.

green pine
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If I remember correctly, the next stream’s Q&A session is planned to focus on the krill and crabs, so it’d be a perfect time to ask when the stream arrives bettereyes

scarlet wren
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source ?👀

green pine
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iirc it was from the stream itself, though sadly the video is no longer available on twitch and they have yet to put it onto the yt channel SkyCry

scarlet wren
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ahh

humble barn
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it was not stated in the stream but jiisama got the info "the next live stream is going
to be about light and dark creatures"CherryKrill

sly kestrel
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Ofc he would

fossil arch
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the opening krill scene depicts the krill targeting the manta which is producing or contains some kind of light much like the sky kids. since the krill don’t actually eat (as far as i can tell) the sky children or the light. considering that life in sky is self-sustainable and there’s no evident food source (correct me if i’m wrong on the food source, i just haven’t seen any food cutscenes and the sky kids don’t seem to have mouths) however it is notable to take into account the tray-like stones during the end scene of the belonging season. leading me to believe the krill have a motive to attack, which isn’t to eat us. whether it is because we have invaded their land or destroyed their territory, or built on their habitat hence the ruins. i am not sure

dusk sluice
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Cooked krab

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Thats food that exists

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You can see it at the fireplace in wasteland

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Wait I meant krab oops

drifting copper
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lmao

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yeah sky kids eat crab

sly kestrel
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Skykids don’t eat, the old spirits ate crabs

dusk sluice
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Interesting

sand abyss
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Gonna consider that Skykids and Elders/Spirits are not the same

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eh... race???

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Hmmm.....

green pine
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they're entirely different species, not just different races

sand abyss
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mhmm somethjng like that

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Hmm couldn’t find the right term but yeah, these two groups are different

abstract badger
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Spirits are the stars and the ancestors of Sky kids

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Sky kids are manifestations of the star species that are specialized to thrive and venture in the darkness infested world

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Their life force is their flame

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While the life force of the spirit is pure light

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Which is why Sky kids always return as kids instead of staying in Orbit

drifting copper
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i realised they’re not cold resistant

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also apparently have breath?? at least when doing the shivering emote

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the flame in them is definitely their life force though

sly kestrel
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I think the breath concept was only for the cold emote

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Like telekinesis
We can’t actually shoot purple waves out of our hands as a part of the lore
It’s just something to add to the emote

drifting copper
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oooooo alright

green pine
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though unlocking the emote does give a weak form of telekinesis to your skykid, as shown in the four-player telekinesis puzzle

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as well as the standstill hover ability from the meditate emote

scarlet wren
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mimicking what they’re doing like children

crimson grove
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I always thought we’d “copy” the emotions from them, and that would explain why some emotes are more goofy than realistic (like the SkyFaint emote) because it’s from a child’s perspective

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Yeah pigeon!

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And maybe the sparkly versions are our imagination too

scarlet wren
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hmm i hadn’t really thought about the sparkly ones jdhfjfjf

drifting copper
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yeah

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this one is a mess of things

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probably?

scarlet wren
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Play dead Spirit: (dies)
Sky kid: Are you sleeping?
Spirit: Um... yes.

drifting copper
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they’re kids so gotta be family friendly

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the spirits know they’re wee babs so no actual dying

scarlet wren
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i thought the play dead spirit would be playing dead in front of krills or some thing but no the guy literally dies in that scene ndhfkfnfn

drifting copper
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that’s just s a d

sand abyss
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Faint spirit just questioning if the kid actually knows what’s going on

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mhmm yup he died

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poor guy really

drifting copper
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imagine having to relive that memory everytime-

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poor guy

sand abyss
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if it’s like death by crabs

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perhaps

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but if it’s something more dire then....

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that’s a big concern right there

scarlet wren
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Maybe he just played along with the sky kid’s perception of what happened

sand abyss
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hehe perhaps so

scarlet wren
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do not worry children i did not die I was merely sleeping

drifting copper
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i was merely resting

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yeah sure uncle

sand abyss
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Merely resting in this pretty-safe-place

scarlet wren
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Even though Sky kids have a harsh final journey in the end they are very innocent haha

sand abyss
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even though some of them are waaay older than him

scarlet wren
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hehe

sand abyss
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And Press On

scarlet wren
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little kids tryna make friends, learn emotes and emotions

green pine
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and then comes cry spirit

sand abyss
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jgivepls crryyyy noo

scarlet wren
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c r i e s

abstract badger
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I'm concluding that the spirits and the Sky kids use the same types of bodies, but are differentiated by their life force. Spirits can stay in orbit as stars and share their memories from when they had physical forms (this includes elders), while Sky kids must always return as children because of their flame. I don't quite know how winged light plays into this...

drifting copper
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cry spirit’s memories ar ejust s a d

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i mean i believe that the winged light is to save your friends

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cause of the old friend gravestones in game

abstract badger
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Maybe it's the light force that lets them become spirits...

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Maybe it was separated from the Sky kids when the light was lost

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And is the reason why their flames need to be tied to their wax/stone bodies

green pine
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Skykids have spirit souls in them as well, which look exactly like the blue-coned lights that make up the actual spirits (whereas what we can see of their bodies is just part of the illusion made from reliving the memory, though they would've had a real body when they were alive)
You can see it when you tap on a friend star and it shows them dropping down to you, and it's what you collapse into when you die in eden and haven't gone to the black room yet

brazen solstice
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Imma make proof that skykids has mouth

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  • They can play horn
drifting copper
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sjhdjdhd

sand abyss
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They blow through their noses

drifting copper
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skymii why did you make me remember filthyfrank playing the flute with his nose

sand abyss
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hehee you’re welcome

vale ridge
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Ok honestly I have thought so hard about skykids playing music. Like what you guys said
tHeY don’t have moUths
So like... hOw?
I think we’re singing the sounds of the instrument. If our bodies were just shells and we’re hollow inside, are the sounds of the instrument just coming from vibrations from our bodies??? And they don’t even have nOses. Our elders don’t even have noSeS or moUths. We don’t need to eat or breathe. The skykids dont need those holes. The only holes we have is our eye sockets. But we obviously don’t play our instruments through our eye sockets. 👀 right? And when we wear the no mask mask, our eyes are CLOSED. So there are no holes that lets us play an instrument that requires breathing.

I think we imitate the sounds of the instruments. Like how we could change the sound of our calls.

green pine
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Or the instruments magically play themselves to the notes we desire pEyes

vale ridge
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Haha maybe

sand abyss
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tis magical instruments after all

vale ridge
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And here’s another thing I was thinking about. Like what Sky Beanie said, only our bodies cast a shadow. So like, everything that we’re wearing is just light. And we already know that whenever we lose our light, our cosmetics disappear(except our capes. Maybe because our capes keeps our winged light[even though we pull the winged light out of our chest, but our capes still show the diamonds on our back so meh] and therefore letting our lightless form keep the capes). Maybe the reason why we need to buy our cosmetics from spirits is because they are teaching us what they look like. “This is what the instrument looks like and this is what they sound like” or “this is the color of the cape and this is what the pants looks like.” They teach us how to manipulate the light in a way where it looks a certain way. They probably also teach us how to make certain sounds. You can’t ask me “then why couldn’t the skychildren just look at the spirits and manipulate the light to look like them?” Well why can’t the skychildren just laugh or cry or express anything without physically seeing the spirit do it? Happiness and sadness is such a common thing and yet skychildren don’t know how to express it. Skychildren can’t do simple things. As smart as the skychildren may seem, they’re kinda dummy butts. Remember their babies(in a way).

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Aaaaaaaaaaand another thing I was thinking about. About the no mask mask. Like bruh. We’re walking with our eyes closed. How do the skykids even know where to go??? So they don’t even need eyes to know how to navigate. I guess they just know what their surroundings look like because everything is a memory, an imagination, an image that they made up or memorized. ALL the children memorized the same location(and every location) to the point where they can navigate with their eyes closed.

Or maybe we just know what’s happening around us because everything is light and we could sense light. We know what things look like and what’s happening around us even with our eyes closed because we could sense their light presence.

scarlet wren
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maybe sky kids just open their eyes when we’re not looking

vale ridge
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Haha

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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand another thing sorry.

Things turn yellow when we light it with out candle(our heart). What happens when we give our winged light(I guess part of our soul) to the stone children? There is a blueish-purplish flame. Our heart is what keeps us alive. Our souls make up who we are as an individual. So when we give part of our soul, they become a part of us.

Our hearts make things yellow. Our souls make things blue.

I dunno (;-;).

feral lintel
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when you gain light your cape light is yellow; when you lose it (flapping or losing it to rain or muck) the light is blue.
a contradictory statement: when you ||give winged light to the kids in Eden||, they have a bright blue flame. However, when a dragon hits you, a bright orange flame appears as the light gets forcibly knocked out of you.

next jasper
hexed turret
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Hmm

next jasper
jovial nacelle
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Here

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The elders died.

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Because of.

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Lemme start with the daylight prairie elder.

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He died because of the light he had used to create butterflies and yeah.

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As he grew older I guess his light was fading, thus rendering him to unconsciousness and well death too.

vale ridge
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Ok but the elders were elders from the beginning of time, so they don’t grow older.

jovial nacelle
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Well, they were already old-

vale ridge
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But they don’t grOw

jovial nacelle
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But they are OlD-

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think about stars dieing

vale ridge
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Yeah and they explode making more stars

brazen solstice
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I dont really think Valley Elder r old

jovial nacelle
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Yes

vale ridge
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But their cutscenes are beyond time and location

jovial nacelle
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True, because they have a shrine

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To those that survived eden guided them there.

vale ridge
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They don’t havE an aGe

brazen solstice
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So do we

jovial nacelle
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(Atleast they died- In a crude or peaceful way 😄

mystic moat
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They didn’t die

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They fell

vale ridge
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yEs

jovial nacelle
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And lost their light-

mystic moat
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They’re the stars in the intro cinematic

jovial nacelle
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I f o r g o t a b o u t t h a t -

mystic moat
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We’re a different species

brazen solstice
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So do the spirits

mystic moat
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There’s a google doc in pinned that has all the confirmed lore

jovial nacelle
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I think, they only appear in shrines to show the exact location of where you are going next If given enough light?

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Also, I personally think of that the fact of the forest elder may have also fallen for the same loss of light.

vale ridge
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Wow haha, so people were right about getting light from sky creatures

covert furnace
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More of a subspecies but yeah interesting read...

warped reef
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ill leave this here, maybe some creative minds can make some interesting theories

Maybe the skykids initially where the child of darkness? They would’ve been without the light in their chest pThink

autumn kite
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Funny I don’t remember that intro cine at all lol

scarlet wren
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i feel that Sky kids were made to strike a perfect balance of light and dark but idk

quick jewel
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Skykids stole the light from krill and crabs, which distorted them. they attack to get the light back

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Krill are corrupted manta (or similar creature) and crabs are corrupted jellyfish

jovial nacelle
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No, I think the sky kids we play as are reborn children

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So practically whomever saves that child, we become that child?

sly kestrel
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@quick jewel where’d u get that?

jovial nacelle
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His theory

edgy kernel
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Ye I kinda agree on that theory, wouldnt make sense to live in limbo redoing the same thing 1000 times

sly kestrel
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Limbo?

scarlet wren
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i wouldn’t say it’s limbo, i guess

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You’re given light so you can give to others, eventually giving it all up to save those who didn’t make it, you not only give your light but your life

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but the Light Rewards you for your efforts, and you’re given life again so you can do it all over again.

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I think stealing light is against the ethos of the game, it’s about giving and altruism

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The dark creatures are a natural part of the world, but going off one of the daily messages, they take take take that light, extinguish it. A krill will shake every last star out of you it it could, crab will tackle you, spirits and light sources like fire and lanterns to extinguish it.

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But it’s your job as a child of light to make way for the light

abstract badger
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Soul = personality
Flame = energy/life force (you can survive without it). It's the manifestation of the light the kids absorb
Winged Light = capacity for light - it allows you to store light
Light = Life itself in the world of Sky

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I think all the light related elements are imagined. The kids use it to make sense of the world.

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The capes, for example

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They have no shadow

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So they must be manifested by the Child's imagination

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Maybe imagination can become reality, to some extent, in Sky

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This is why we are so uniquely suited to restore light

sly kestrel
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Capes can’t be seen bc they are pure light

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And all of our cosmetics don’t have shadows actually

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And I said this before but it makes sense that our cosmetics don’t have shadows because they are given by spirits, they can’t physically give you a mask, it’s light based

sand abyss
edgy kernel
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I guess you could say Journey has the exact same "story" since it's pretty much the same game but diffrent mechanics

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There is a good story analysis, several actually about Journey that kinda make's sense

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on youtube

sly kestrel
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I heard journey’s lore is a lot easier to understand than sky

edgy kernel
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Ye I guess maybe 🙂

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I think alot of stuff in Sky are just design choices and not anything lore specific

sly kestrel
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Well the yt video i watched it seemed like a good story and the lore was kinda straight forward and had a decent amount of detail. Sky on the other hand....

vale ridge
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Can we enter the pipes the birds are being sucked into?

scarlet wren
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there’s an invisible wall

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Probably some wind barriers too

hazy salmon
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There’s this really good book I’ve been reading that’s taken some of the lore in Sky and put it into greater detail—I would recommend TGCBlueSparkles

last wigeon
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Has anyone noticed that the ||guardians by the canon on the roof in office|| and the guardians at the first gate to wasteland look kinda the same? ( I would put pictures up but I don’t know how to spoiler a picture)

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@hazy salmon the book looks promising

sly kestrel
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U don’t need to spoiler tag the office

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.......I think

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But yes I’ve noticed too and with good observation I noticed they are the same

crimson grove
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There is no need for spoiler tags in here, but the office is not considered canon because it’s an Easter egg

green pine
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that's just asset-borrowing, the office isn't usable for canon lore outside of the room's scaling and the info we can glean from the level posters

crimson grove
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There used to be a canon in wasteland, so it’s possible its just the same model

maiden glen
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IM LATE LIKE ALWAYS BUT YES I NOTICED THE PIPE IN EDEN

there’s less and less light as you go through the realms leading up to the final level,

For example, Vault has barely any free roaming light and little candles, all of its light powered mechanisms need you to come in and activate them.
While in prairie things are natural and you simply need to light a few candles, there’s also a surplus of pButterfly and whatever is considered “organic” in Sky.

this also brings back my questions abt Isle, because it does not have much other than ruined boats and pillars of rock, very desolate with hardly any sign of anyone actually living there.

It’s possible that whoever was in Eden and activated that large diamond, was harvesting light to do so, and that light came readily available from the birds and nearest temples.
(Like I said with Vault, Wasteland is also very devoid of light, for obvious reasons.)

sly kestrel
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It didn’t really look like they were being sucked in the pipe either, the birds are just flying up to the pipe as if they were accepting their fate

sand abyss
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offt....and I thought they were flying out of the pipes

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O-O buut....nope

sly kestrel
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Nope they were going in

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And at first I just thought they were birds going to orbit and I made a theory about the isle elder and it might be the butterflies that he led with his staff in the cutscene. And in some murals he is seen leading creatures up to eden

sand abyss
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perhaps they know the safe route to Orbit or something???

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idk, but dang

sly kestrel
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I couldn’t see where the pipe was going because it was out of bounds and it wasn’t worth going into a giant circle of krills, BUT most likely it leads to the huge power diamond

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I don’t know what creatures they are

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Just moving bright thingies going into the pipes

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Would be awesome if I was able to bypass the wind walls and see where they are going 👀

wind bone
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He wouldn’t be able to mod the game to get a custom camera like he usually does

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But regular glitching is fair game 👀

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Oh we have many 👀

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Like Alex

maiden glen
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I have a picture of the vault cutscene mural! It does look like he’s guiding creatures

(I’m still working on the album but it should come soon SkyTada)

sly kestrel
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There’s more clear ones in the isle of dawn

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Where’s he’s leading creatures

maiden glen
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I have those too but I’m not on the right device a-

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But ye!

sly kestrel
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And I only know 1 barrier breaking glitch but it only makes you go up, I call it
THE ROCKET GLITCH

maiden glen
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I know that one lmao

sly kestrel
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The one where it makes u shoot up super fast like a rocket?

maiden glen
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Mhm

sly kestrel
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Wow

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I thought me and my friend were the only ones

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We found it by messing around with buttons

maiden glen
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but shhhh this isnt lore~

sly kestrel
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Okokok

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So

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Isle mural

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I’ll try to find it

maiden glen
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I have them if you give me a bit- the spirit reliving ones can be found in pins

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YEA BIGGEST QUESTION - I said this a while back is,,, who is the narrator like pls-

(That might also do better in #completed-sky-fanart-and-creations pEyes so we dont clog this place)

silk salmon
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(I posted a pic about the narrorator)

sly kestrel
maiden glen
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YAYA THAT ONE

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We dont know a lot abt Isle grandpa so we must sit and. Question him

silk salmon
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So are the spirits to blame? Since they didn’t listen?

maiden glen
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It is the SkyNoThanks spirit so probably

sly kestrel
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I actually don’t know, I never payed attention to the “no” spirits memory

maiden glen
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I think its moreso the elders- the spirits just followed their leaders

sly kestrel
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Hmmm he might be leading them to it so I’ll jus edit my theory
As u can see in the pic I posted earlier, there were light creatures going into one of the pipes in eden, and if u look at the isle elder’s cutscene u can see him using his staff to lead the butterflies up to the mountain (which turned out to be eden)
And based on the mural found in one of the caves, you can see the isle elder leading creatures to the eden symbol

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I couldn’t see where the pipe was going because it was oob, but THeoReTiCaLlY they are going to the power diamond and it is constantly giving it energy

frosty moss
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Oh wow

green pine
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Aight, I’m gonna head into eden oob to see where that pipe leads bettereyes
Though I wouldn’t be surprised if it just cuts off and doesn’t pick back up on a clear path due to not needing extra objects placed outside of the player’s view

sly kestrel
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Good luck.....there is a massive amount of krills around that pipe

green pine
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Feel free to send a QR code if you want to join in on the short expedition

sly kestrel
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Sadly....my friend list is full

green pine
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There’s no such thing as a full friends list in Sky, only a full favorited friends list

sly kestrel
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Get around 70 friends, u will see what I’m talking about

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And u make this sound easy

green pine
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You mean more than 81 friends

sly kestrel
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Do u know how to break barriers or....what

green pine
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And it is easy, eden has one of the easiest oob locations of them all SkyLOL