lore-discussion-spoilers

[untold notch]

but not like hurtful forest rain right?

[lusty merlin]

nah it does hurt us still which is super intersting

[sterile orchid]

no yeah it is, but there's loads of butterflies

i brought my umbrella so that i don't have them bothering me though, it's equivalent of a flashbang every couple seconds

[untold notch]

inch arresting... shush are you sure you're doing this right

[keen shore]

they’re doing their best and that’s all that matters. what are they going to do, die again?

[sterile orchid]

best guess is that since it's wasteland, the clouds at least would be polluted, which makes the rain hurt. or it's just that rain in general hurts no matter where it is but the only 2 places we've seen it have been suggested as being heavily polluted

[untold notch]

they are trying their best that's true I won't fault them for that

[keen shore]

I like to imagine them showing off the entire time

[balmy spoke]

There is light rain in the meadows after forest temple, that doesn't hurt

[untold notch]

normal rain vs angry rain, fight

[sterile orchid]

when has there been rain at the end of forest i don't remember that

[keen shore]

the only difference between them is a single cave-in?

[rigid iron]

I don't think they imagined the clouds would be polluted, I think their only plan was rain=good

[untold notch]

I'm approaching your location rapidly

[balmy spoke]

Its extremely light rain, you have stand the and you'll see the white lines

[rigid iron]

Also what happened since I left why are there significantly more ghosts

[frigid tinsel]

oh gods it's happening again

[untold notch]

I really really don't know

[keen shore]

Things a skykid would say:

[sterile orchid]

it seems that if you talk about the haunted role you get the haunted role

[keen shore]

is that why they keep retrying… maybe the rain will be different this time

[rigid iron]

I'd do the same, seems like a solid plan

[sterile orchid]

the literal reason they keep trying is bc the rain completely stops after a minute or two

[untold notch]

according to the news post it should work eventually?

[keen shore]

enchant watching all this occur repeatedly with a completely exhausted expression

[sterile orchid]

they're trying to make it rain for as long as possible (probably because it's been so long since the light was used, or this is the first time any of this group have tried using the light in the first place)

[untold notch]

I'd imagine being dead messes with things a little

[snow cosmos]

minor inconvenience

[frigid tinsel]

the Enchantment spirits did it

[fickle snow]

i am seeing since alasdair and somme other persons started sending the "it IS that deep fam" sybot stopped sending hte "look fam, its not that deep" thing

[sterile orchid]

i do hope shush gets the hang of using the light though it's been 1 day and i'm already tired of the constant blue flash

[untold notch]

to be fair, the spirit that did it is a practicing alchemist rather than just a scholar who would likely work in theoreticals

[frigid tinsel]

I've been doing this for a year, skybot hasn't stopped sending that specific prompt, it prob just finally silenced itself

[fickle snow]

oh lol... i geuss ia rrived late

[uncut pond]

Iirc it used to be a lot more frequent tho? Or am I imagining things

[frigid tinsel]

true, I'd put it up to a scholar who at least studied light theory (Shushing Light Scholar) to be able to put that theory into effect

[rigid iron]

They have one job and they're very good at it

[untold notch]

unfortunately shush could not account for weather as they've never gone outside

[frigid tinsel]

however we don't know whether the other lightseekers have any experience with using the colored lights, blue or otherwise.

[keen shore]

I like to imagine Shush is a bit of a show off so maybe they’re just letting them have this for a day yknow

[lusty merlin]

maybe some have mastered certain colored lights when others haven't

[untold notch]

crab whisperer doesn't need colored light they have the Kill light

[uncut pond]

They got told to go touch grass but prairie was too far away so they're trying to make their own grass

[frigid tinsel]

I need to work on my CW writing to make them say more painful dialogue about how they haven't seen this much light/flora & fauna in so long

[keen shore]

This is more headcanon stuff but I like to think that lightseekers are really good at using normal light magic but colored light magic is a whole different deal they don’t know how to operate (except for Shush)

there’s also the possibility that their name is very literal & their job is just to gather light and not necessarily know how to work with the light they have, but I doubt it personally

[frigid tinsel]

I feel they would at least have to know how to work with light because if they're gathering it, they gotta hold onto it somehow

[balmy spoke]

You see a few drops of rain
Not the wind lines, very faint white lines, aka, a light drizzle but still rain.

Sorry for ping, the turn off option isn't working for mobile occasionally

[frigid tinsel]

wind lines are horizontal, rain lines are vertical.
also you had to pick the spot in Forest that has no rain at all /lh

[balmy spoke]

It has rain, That was the thing i was saying it has rain at the end that doesn't hurt, extremely light rain

[sterile orchid]

i don't see anything but that could also just be my video quality being garbage, i'll look at that next time i go through the area

[uncut pond]

Tbf it could be just a bug or oversight since it seems too infrequent to be a light rain and not just wind lines going rogue

[lusty merlin]

yaya: normal light magic to me is being able to make a nice one layer cake

when being able to fully control a color light is like having to make a perfect 10 teir cake, fully decorated. Steep learning curve basically but thats how i personally see it

[balmy spoke]

Its water, from the sky = rain, makes the grass green and flowering. As the trees don't have leaves to form water droplets to fall from.

[balmy spoke]

It happens around 6 times in the video. All less than a moment each. There are wind lines to show it isn't wind either.
and it goes up and down For Alasdair

Sky kids can't survive heavy rain, simple as. But are fine with a light tinge of water.

[sterile orchid]

i'm not saying that it doesn't happen i'm just saying that i didn't see it in the video

[solemn bone]

Lore chat~ how long do we think it has been since the ancestors died out? Was it a loooong time ago, or could it have been days?

// I know when sky came out on Switch, we got a launch trailer that showed us some land before Isle, which in our experience is almost completely covered in sand. But that could have happened in the explosion(?) that ended everything… thoughts?

[untold notch]

probably at least a few days I think

[balmy spoke]

Not a problem, i got a picture from the video. Its also 30fps switch quality so if you can play it higher quality maybe the water would be different.

[uncut pond]

I rewatched the video a few times and I only see it happen once in it. If it was an intentional detail then it'd probably be made easier to notice

[balmy spoke]

It happens a few times i can get pictures of sll instances

[uncut pond]

Centuries, as far as we know

[balmy spoke]

First is at 3 seconds
Second is 9 seconds,
3rd is 15th second.

Hard to stop at each point, they last 3 frames each

[sterile orchid]

twirl trying to use the levitate emote is the only one who doesn't have the purple light coming from their hand i wonder if that's an error, or if it means something

[untold notch]

what's twirls full spirit name again

[sterile orchid]

twirling champion

[untold notch]

that might have something to do with it

[balmy spoke]

I'd say it's intentional, ofc no one has noticed it, but its a detail for if you sit down and try to notice, the rain hasn't truly stopped in the forest.

[sterile orchid]

also there's tiny little bits of grass where piggyback is making the green light swirl, that's neat. seems like it's kinda working

[uncut pond]

I think the reason that light rain doesn't hurt skids is because they just don't get hit by the water drops, since they're so infrequent

[pastel brook]

im just vibing here bro

[balmy spoke]

Aye, I can't say why It don't hurt.
Thats the pollution vs water or both argument.
I was simply just bringing evidence of water fall from sky not hurt, you lot can try to explain that xD

[pastel brook]

Did Ancestors get reincarnated as well?

[rigid iron]

New skybot line alert

[fickle snow]

yesn't

[rigid iron]

That meme is gonna get flagged

[uncut pond]

I know, but until that happens I'm just gonna pretend the rules allow it

[fickle snow]

Idk if amypne has laready aeen it, buuut #news message

[untold notch]

sorry I'm going insane which spirit in that image is the one with the tulip cape

[fickle wing]

RUNNING TOWARDS THIS AT HIGH SPEEDS AND BARRELING INTO IT WHILE HOLDING ONE OF MY OCS
they are. Straight up a reincarnated ancestor im going to bite something

[untold notch]

I think slink has a few of those also

[latent pebble]

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[fickle wing]

skybot

[fickle snow]

You saw it folks

I just saw the gimnast is so desperate abt growing flowers that they right away kisses the fround in a desperate attempt of flowers blooming

[sterile orchid]

the,, who exactly?

[fickle snow]

T TH I S dudee

[sterile orchid]

that's twirling champion, the other one is piggyback lightseeker

twirl wants the enchantment guide to notice them and is doing quite a bit for it but it's not working

[fickle snow]

They better hurry up maihahahau xd (ok no)

[grim python]

didn’t get to elaborate on this because I had tutoring right after but im seriously sorry, this server moves so fast so im used to just pinging in every reply won’t let it happen again

[raw crypt]

YESSSS

I like the idea that ancestors who didnt get spirit-ified, their light returned to the cycle of light and was used to make new stars that became new guys, skykids or creatures or what not

tho sometimes u get silly with it and make a skykid who was an ancestor, like staright up the same guy

[untold notch]

slink were you haunted before

[frigid tinsel]

Every time I see the “skykids are reincarnated ancestors” concept, I think of your Vonu & Ilosu

[sterile orchid]

no idea when they became haunted like us but no

[raw crypt]

NAH first time being haunted
AND 💕💕💕💕 A

[fickle wing]

picking up my trio of ancestors who got reincarnated as skykids by the scruff like sopping wet kittens

[wanton ivy]

hi hi! i havent been around since season of shattering are there any new theories and stuff about the lore since then? (ive heard something about aurora being the megabird or so)

[untold notch]

bagels are still round they haven't changed that

[raw crypt]

PLEASE TELL ME MORE ABT THEM, kicking my feet and giggling liek its a dleepover

[frigid tinsel]

I doubt a real person would be canonized into a fictional world so I see Aurora more like a storyteller

[raw crypt]

The two seasons after shattering were aurora and remembrance which in my opinion are more about fleshing out details about the world, while aurora touches on showing things across more realms (each quest following a spirit from a different realm but also the larger scale exposition in the concert), remembrance shows individual stories of those afflicted by the war in wasteland and how they’re recovering from that with our help

[sterile orchid]

been considering one of those ancestor OCs with my vault and/or wastelad characters so i may wind up joining this group

[wanton ivy]

omg that's so cool actually- i heard season of remembrance was dark but i didn't expect to see grief and death minutes into starting it

[untold notch]

the war 🎉

[raw crypt]

Yeah its a much heavier season in comparison to most, the themes of war have always been in sky with wasteland, wasteland spirits, and aurora quest 4 straight up showing it, and im glad tgc chose to write a story showcasing those affected and the grief that comes with it, and that we are able to help bring solace, since its always been a theme thats been there but not really discussed or a central focus of a season till now

[fickle wing]

OK SO I MADE THESE FELLAS. WAY BACK IN LIKE 2020 WHEN I JUST GOT INTO SKY holding them up like dolls rn
so the whole interpretation of the story n stuff i had back then was real different from the current one i have so it’s like my own little separate au thing
basically there’s these 3 fellas a soldier (cameli/mel) a vault scholar (rith) n this one special little guy (he was like. The prince’s bestie almost like siblings their name is iyra)
the whole fall of the kingdom thing goes down n whatnot but by some freak accident the three get reincarnated as skykids except
they’re not really your standard guys
instead of the yellowish circle light on their chests it’s like a pale blue n diamond shaped n each have varying degrees that they remember their past lives in with mel getting these memory flashes, rith remembering almost NOTHING which makes them super frustrated, and then iyra remembers everything but is mute n also decided not to tell the other two anything for the sake of them not getting caught up in the past
also mel struggles to hold light in them n as a result has no cape cause of an injury in their past life so </3 no flight

[raw crypt]

NO WAY. DIAMOND CORE ANCESTOR SKYDS 🤝🤝🤝🤝
OH MY GOD I LOVE THEM IM SHAKING UR HANDSO MCUH YESYES YES!!!!‼️‼️‼️‼️💕💕💕

[fickle wing]

YEAH!!!!🤝🤝🤝🤝

[untold notch]

I'm interested

I don't really have any ancestor skids but I do have one with no shell

[fickle wing]

i have an ancient scribble somewhere of rith n mel i thin k

[raw crypt]

sky ocs r so fun, sky is up to interpretation and boy me and my friends r winning at it

also id go more into the aurora overview but its been a hot minute and i dont wanna accidentally spread misinformation LOL

[untold notch]

I love spreading misinformation on the Internet /j

[raw crypt]

i hope we get shattering and aurora concepts soon, im worried we wont get shattering

[wanton ivy]

making a mental note to check this channel regularly so that i can learn about sky ocs (they're silly little glowing people and it's cool to see what everyone comes up with theirs)

[untold notch]

I'm not expecting it unfortunately

[brisk python]

me, staring at my 7 sky ocs: oops
(3 of which are ancestors)

[fickle wing]

oh this is OLD OLD before i thought of the whole what if rith remembered nothing n basically became a vault hermit in how they’re just obsessively combing through records and records stored away in hopes of finding some scrap of information of their past so they can join mel n iyra in the i remember who i used to be club anyways putting them in the washing machine max spin cycle

[raw crypt]

are you implying 7 is a lot or little bc if ots a lot i have news for you /lh

[untold notch]

Al with over 90:

[raw crypt]

JSLEKJDJDNDB JUST DOESNT ELABORATE

[brisk python]

for me it's a lot if sky ocs chshfjs but im no stranger to just having like a billion
i wanna develop my ancestors more
my favorite ancestor oc i have is a veteran of the war, pro darkstone,,

[solemn bone]

what references to king are there in game? i know it's theorized that he is the one depicted in the prophecy cave murals, and that he has statues spread throughout GW, but is there anything else?

[wanton ivy]

how do you start making sky ocs i tried but then i wanted to change my sky kid's appearance so the oc also died away

[fickle wing]

i lost count of my ocs i just remember them out of the blue n im like oh my god i have a silly little guy

wait i have a vampire skykid. I just remembered that what hold on

[sterile orchid]

i'm making at LEAST one sky kid oc for every realm, and Valley is home to 2 and a third that technically lives in forest but often visits valley to put on little stage shows

[untold notch]

my advice is to give them their own outfits

[brisk python]

I ALSO HAVE A GAY EXCEPT HE IS THE DEFINITION OF FRUITY

[untold notch]

it helps if you're not tying them to how you look, I've found

[raw crypt]

Its hard to pin down exactly since theyre a pretty vague figure to begin with, but theres theories that the strange figure/symbol in shattering last quest is meant to represent them, and that theyre the figure in the new eden mural

[fickle wing]

trying so so hard not to ramble now abt my vampire kid/lightdrinker cause in on 2% and my phone Will die while i type

[wanton ivy]

charge it while typing

[brisk python]

before i sleep im just gonna drop my favorite blorbo is ares, a former pro-darkstone war veteran that wants to rectify his past mistakes and has a self-made manta rescue where he takes in orphaned, injured, or sick sky pancakes

[sterile orchid]

i used the template in #outfit-requests with a bunch of random colored circles and absolutely no repeating cosmetics to make the expectation of their looks and it will change constantly as new seasons and event cosmetics come out but it helps

don't tie them to you and it should be easier to give them their own personalities and make them into characters

i also switch around my looks constantly to make sure they all get enough love,,

[wanton ivy]

wait thats so cool how come ive never thought of that

[raw crypt]

ohh thats such a sweet oc,,

and yeah i find a good starting point for sky ocs is jsut screwing around with cosmetics!

[untold notch]

there's some great picrews out there if you don't have a lot of cosmetics yourself

[brisk python]

id ramble about him all day honestly i love himb sm,,
if u ever wanna hear me out lmk

[wanton ivy]

ik a lot of the sky lore is just vague but is there anything "official" or like some theory the fandom generally agrees on? since i've seen discussions about a lot of lore stuff

[sterile orchid]

i even went so far as to have older versions of my characters included in the cosmetic distribution which is going to be fun to get later! waiting for light whisperer so my moth AKA "protag" can look a bit more interesting

[raw crypt]

theres a lot of popular ideas, but for some reasonnim currently drawing a blank on em GDJDHDHD

[lusty merlin]

think one is that mantas were very possibly killed/hurt to make the power diamonds we light up for doors and to power gondola's and lights. Seen in the abyss murals and cages of mantas we even free in abyss, pus context clues from auroras concert for warrior of love showing mantas being caged

[wanton ivy]

that's dark but also very possible

[raw crypt]

im gonna head out cuz i wanna draw but as a side note i think they r very happy with bloom rn :]

[lusty merlin]

yeah and plus its a very interesting idea that we had manta racing seen in warraior of loves quest as a sport too, while this was going on at possibly the same time frame pre disaster

take care slink!

[wanton ivy]

oooh i took a break around the start of aurora's season so im catching up with the quests rn also ive seen people talk about a kingdom?? and stuff with like a prince and everything

[lusty merlin]

well the sky world is believed to be a kingdom, prince is a very broad subject if you don't mean little prince

it boils down to like in the prophecy mural there seems to be a chosen one that could've very possibly be the same figure seen in the eden mural before we open the 2nd door to begin climbing the mountain. The prince/king names are from concept art, but some devs have mentioned the king very broadly yet that was 2-3 years ago, so its unsure if they're still even use those terms.

[wanton ivy]

WOAH okay that's really really cool omg

[lusty merlin]

yaya other than that there's nothing else on them: what they did, what they're like, how involved they were or their relationship to the other elders ect. absolutely nothing. Like you know they exist but other than that, that's all there is

[frigid tinsel]

Oi

[half shadow]

going off of the prophecy mural and the idea of being “the chosen one” it’s speculated that they were also the child seen in the pointing postman memory from the isle of dawn - potentially they were a skykid that fell just like the skykids now

[wanton ivy]

ohhh so that's why ive seen plenty of ocs centered around them since people are free to speculate / come up with their own lore

[raw crypt]

one of the ‘make up a guy’s of all time

[lusty merlin]

yaya pretty much!

[frigid tinsel]

Yea you dont want your OCs’ outfits to overlap too much or it gets confusing.
Example: Noss and Amander during Days of Feast 2022

Though Noss canonically wears Performance guide’s mask under the Elder shield mask sometimes, doesn’t show in game unfortunately

[wanton ivy]

loving how sky ocs start off as trying out cool outfits and cosmetics until all of a sudden they have a full backstory and extensive trauma

[frigid tinsel]

Oh yea both of these guys need therapy

[raw crypt]

ITS SO FUNNY tbh like my fave thing is comparing pre-lore designs vs THE LORE desihns now

[sterile orchid]

i know it's an hour later but i just now realized i have no idea what that could have to do with it

[frigid tinsel]

Twirl likes to twirl

[wanton ivy]

the fancier the appearance the more backstory ive seen a bunch of ocs where it's just straight up sky kids turning into krills or sky kids getting cracked masks because a krill attacked them

[half shadow]

(going along with the “every skykid has shattered fragments of the King in them) I don’t have a Sky oc really but i do like the idea of a skykid that is Uncomfortably Aware of how uncannily familiar certain sights in the kingdom are; they cringe away from prophecy murals and prefer to be alone because they sometimes look at another skykid and feel this weird sense pass between them. they’ve attempted going to Eden but turned back because of an overpowering sense of guilt they can’t exactly place. i think it’s neat

[fickle wing]

me with my werekrill pair:

[frigid tinsel]

Me with my (un)corrupted skykids:

[sterile orchid]

my boy Altair is manta-themed, so i decided to make the reason being that he was placed in Sanctuary instead of Isle, and was raised by mantas. Doesn't quite understand how the other sky kids don't naturally speak manta but he does his best

[wanton ivy]

manta oc!! that sounds cool he's just naturally fluent in their language

[quick jasper]

looks away (it was a shard but still)

[sterile orchid]

i don't want to rant about my ocs too much because it's not exactly sky lore, but if you wanna know more about the few that actually have stories, you can DM me

[wanton ivy]

i just know the oc makers went crazy when the shattering dark cosmetics were released

[wanton ivy]

yayyy i'll take note of that! it's really fun seeing everyone make stories for their characters

[sterile orchid]

the pygmy manta cape would've been perfect for altair but i didn't play long enough during the season 💔

[raw crypt]

smth happenedhere

[quick jasper]

i mean. i got here in shattering kinda all i knew for a while

[wanton ivy]

proof that trauma gives you a glow up:

[frigid tinsel]

Yea
(Nanif, Obliquity, Naihho, Sanagan)

[slate saffron]

Lo! To think i would behold such great en-art-en-ing

[wanton ivy]

the second one omg

[frigid tinsel]

Oh my gods ilosu hi

[slate saffron]

I quite enjoy the lavender flowers I hope I'm allowed to keep it

[quick jasper]

the bloom colors are so pretty

[raw crypt]

HEHE TY ilosu my most ntomal oc (theyre one of my ancestors -> skykids)

and shattering skids r so cool, tgc giving us canon dark and light cosmetics 💕💕💕

[sterile orchid]

This is how well enchantment guide would be able to see the lightseeker group with and without the rain - enough to see them but not what they're doing probably so confused about what's going on with the light flashing every few minutes

[austere bridge]

posting this idea here before it leaves my brain
cosmic mantas are found in places of particularly strong memories. this is very rare for it to happen naturally, but their presence accumulated in the vault due to its very nature.
final remembrance quests made me think of this, they really touched my heart

[pastel brook]

but what does it all mean?

[lofty bramble]

theyre definitely related… the spirit associated with the cosmic manta call is called “memory whisperer”

[outer hare]

bobbit

[kindred perch]

I wanted to bring some already common knowledge back to the table of sky chats because I think it needs to be well known. Sky kids are not human! They're stone sculptures with a star that takes the form of a candle inside of them.

[split ingot]

OH MY GOF SO THAT MEANS SKYKIDS CAN CRUMBLE!?!?!? new art idea for my sky oc 😋

[lusty merlin]

Well we’re don’t know for sure what they’re made of exactly, can be stone/clay/stardust ect. We just know they’re not human obviously

[floral skiff]

Where exactly?

I only found the murals depicting the other temples

[south saddle]

oi people who give roles pspspsps make me a cool kid too
||IGNORE MY SHAKY HANDWRITING ITS LIKE MIDNIGHT ASHFKJSLA||

[sharp lichen]

Here, above the temple door

[sharp lichen]

I mean, they already do, in Eden

[fickle snow]

…..damn, now i want to make a aky oc..

[tepid veldt]

go ahead, you definitely wont find yourself a month later with far more than you initially planned points at alasdair with 100+ probably more

[fickle snow]

... i dont think so... i already have like 5 ideas.. help- gets lost in a sea of oc's

[brisk python]

me, also with a growing collection:

[fickle snow]

No..no.. ahhhhh gets swallowed by a thesis worth of backstory

[untold notch]

I wanna say it's 90+ skids & ~14 spirits? I haven't checked lately

[round parrot]

mm, relatable
I recommend watching a few "how to write proper characters" if you are someone who wants to make a character engaging (and a beginner, like me )

[tepid veldt]

ive had 5 stick around and two that i need to flesh out
those two dont even have names lmao

[round parrot]

relatable
sometimes concept comes first before names (i am bad at naming, lol)

[tepid veldt]

some of the time its concept -> name -> design but most of the time its -> design -> name -> concept

or if i really like the two, i mash the design and the concept together and call it a day cough picamu cough

[untold notch]

it's good to write them down somewhere so you don't forget

[dapper storm]

So my oc “Flower” in my comic has siblings who are special to her. But one of them was taken away and Journey promised to bring them home.

Yellow, daffodil 🌼 - Daffy Aka Flower
Red- (rose) 🌹 - Rose
Pink- (Sakura flower) 🌸 -Sakura
Blue- (sea holly) 🪸- Holly
Purple- (bellflower) 🔔 - Bell
Lavender- (Clematis 'Nelly Moser') 🌺- Nelly

[static zephyr]

I’m working on writing a story based off our journey as the sky kid but the hard part is how to get the sky kid’s personality when they don’t talk and constantly wear a mask
and also having to go into excruciating detail

[thick jacinth]

I don't know if I should sent this to #questions-and-help or in here, but whatever

I just want to know, what is this sound? It's like our sky kid voice, but there's so many of them

[thick jacinth]

How about.. make the characters can't talk?, and about the personality, make them quite mysterious?? Since they're wearing masks, or maybe give them personality that'll change everytime they're talking (in sign language) to different person?

[rigid mural]

This comes from the home tree introduced during Days of Bloom 2021, iirc it's the sound of a lot of kids playing !

[untold notch]

oh neat

[static zephyr]

Thanks I’ll think about it also when the timer is up do you guys mind if I send the link for the story I’m writing so i can hear what you guys think or should I put it in a different chat?

[thick jacinth]

Hmm maybe put it on #promote-your-sky-content ??

[static zephyr]

[thick jacinth]

[hushed steeple]

Lol tree office noises still freakin people out

[untold notch]

I just never play with sound on so I didn't know

[brisk python]

oh the office is open now?

[frigid tinsel]

Office is open during most of events but idk if it's open for Bloom

[oblique pawn]

I didn’t see it open last time I went the barricades were still up

[dapper storm]

I feel that. I already wrote a comic but It was just for fun. now I’m gonna write it properly.

[balmy spoke]

It isn't open, all cosmetics are available outside of the office.

Although, if the office had a bloom look to it, that be nifty, i suspect it's just its standard self however.

[sharp lichen]

It’s really unfortunate, they should let the Skykid’s personality shine more

[wild pasture]

I think their personality is supposed to be our personality. Hence, no talking and no expressionism besides what we do with them. Stereotypical blank slate character. Each Skykid is an extension of their player.

Which both makes it easy and hard to write from their perspective.

[sharp lichen]

You could argue this for other characters, like Link. But even if he never talks in his games, he still mostly has a personality that people can identify.

And although it’s very limited, there’s still some self-expressions. Like the idle animation, turning to face other skykids, waving/praying to seasonal guides, and doing emotes that we haven’t learned in cutscenes.

[wild pasture]

What personality is there is very minimal at best. It's bare bones without the player behind them, and some of that is changed by how you set them. For example, the idle animations change based on what stance you set.

But yes, there is a tiny smidge in there that isn't directly us.

[cold sparrow]

Yeah, when writing a story about skykids, it's up to you as a writer to give them a personality. They're our game avatars, and as such they don't really have a personality.

[sharp lichen]

The Skykid self-insert idea is an interesting one, and it has some merit, but I don’t see it happening.

Sure, Skykids can be given other personality traits. But it doesn’t mean the original Skykid is completely devoid of personality.

[untold notch]

skykid personality traits include:
-autism

[spring python]

Id argue sky kids are 100% meant to be self inserts. Some of the reasons being that they’re a species rather than a single character, the character customization being big on the game and the almost complete lack of self guidance outside elder cutscenes, in which their actions don’t indicate any sort of personality traits either, just basic reactions

Also Sky being a self called social game would mean they probably don’t want to overwrite the character you play as with a personality written by them

[frigid tinsel]

Skykids are expressive, just not with facial expressions

[sharp lichen]

Even still, the tiny level of customizability with Skykids compared to other MMOs makes me believe “the character you play as” is not something hugely considered by TGC

Compare the Skykid to, say, the player in Minecraft. There, your skin is fully customizable, emotes are rare and player-done only, and any dialogue is explicitly gameplay related.

[sterile orchid]

minecraft is not an mmo

[frigid tinsel]

There’s more to a character’s personality than their speaking voice and facial expressions. Skykids use a lot of body language and gesturing (emotes). You can also characterize one’s personality by their inner narrative.

Also — this was brought up to me when I submitted Sky fanfic to my MFA program — for a society where everybody wears masks, the minute facial expressions we may be used to irl would be replaced by minute body language social creatures would thus be more attuned to. Skykids may not speak but you could gander a lot by their attire, the lights they project — think out of the box! There’s more to people than what they say aloud or what their faces co

[untold notch]

I feel like there's an important genre difference there baud

[spring python]

Id also argue the sky kid’s customization is in no way small

[frigid tinsel]

Minecraft skins are only fully customizable on PC and PE, the latter of which is a struggle because you need to use external apps. There are emotes in Bedrock edition but they cost money and dont really do much.

[untold notch]

I won't deny that there are mmos out there with much more robust character creation but they're still often victim to self inserts as well

[uncut pond]

I was about to say just that, Minecraft is mostly just a single player sandbox with no real narrative

Tho tbf the player in most MMOs is a blank slate, that is very much the standard in the genre

[sterile orchid]

minecraft is a sandbox game, sky is a social game with lots of collectibles, they are in no way comparable to each other

[sharp lichen]

Even still, saying the Skykid is a player insert when they do non-player-insert things is strange.

[frigid tinsel]

So do playable characters in other games

[raw crypt]

what are we arguing here /gen

[untold notch]

holding a category 7 autism event behind my back right now ooooh I wanna infodump about this mmorpg I play so bad but it's Not Relevant

[cold sparrow]

It's not even just about self-inserts
If you want to roleplay as some skykid, you would be making up their personality
which isn't a bad thing
part of writing is character creation

[rigid iron]

I've played plenty of MMOs where the player character is 100% intended to be a self insert and they still do emotes in cutscenes that I would consider out of character for me. It's just how it is

[untold notch]

I've had plenty of times where there weren't dialogue choices given to me that I would take, or dialogue choices given at all

[sharp lichen]

I know, but the base Skykid without any roleplay still has personality

[cold sparrow]

that's just the limitations of any game that is trying to do cinematic things or tries to tell a story

[uncut pond]

Sky kids are kind of a weird case tho, there's definitely more to them than meets the eye compared to most other MMO protagonist who are 100% blank slates who rarely have anything going on for them other than what players make up

[cold sparrow]

and that personality is largely determined by how you play
whether they clumsily fly against a wall, brave the laser of a krill as a daredevil, or spam-honk excitedly

[sharp lichen]

There are still things that inevitably come up no matter how you play, though, like praying to Aurora or head scratching

[untold notch]

speaking of Minecraft it's occurred to me I don't know what's going on

[frigid tinsel]

Honestly, whether you characterize something as the player or the character is up to interpretation

[sterile orchid]

the only thing i can bring up as example is genshin impact, the protags still have their own character and motivations that would be uncharacteristic of the player, but they are, at the end of the day, just a player insert so that the developers don't have to give everyone their own character and find a way to make all of them make sense

[cold sparrow]

if you only focus on the barebones personality we see of skykids in the cutscenes... that would be kind of boring
because they just stand there while elders play with their flame, or try to get the attention of some ancestor spirits so they can then mimic their gestures, or fall asleep after standing around for 10 minutes doing nothing
and all skykids would act the same
which would also be boring

Skykids without player input, without us imagining their lifes and personalities during their journey, would just be standing around and be incredibly passive

[frigid tinsel]

I would argue the player is playing as the character. Whether they want to characterize that as the character or the player is up to them

[raw crypt]

i think the og skykid personality is meant to be passive so u can write ur own guy into it, and so cutscenes and actions can, go smoothly? IDK

[frigid tinsel]

I mean, you could imagine them doing whatever when the player isnt playing them. I imagine skykids have their own personalities in-universe, can be highly correlated to player behavior but any player character is biased to the player

[sterile orchid]

the different styles of play is why there's so many skid ocs depending on where i'm going or what kind of mood i'm in and what i want to be doing in the game, i switch to a different oc of mine and it makes it easier to focus on that thing i want to do
For instance i switch to my moth character if i want to do things solo, and switch to Willow if i want to be more social
My vault character is an Eden guide, so i use them to get through Eden without it feeling like a chore, especially when i turn back to help someone get their winged light back

[raw crypt]

AW THATS REALLY SWEET, i usually just play dress up with my ocs

[sharp lichen]

That’s odd, I never thought making your own Skykid character was that popular. I always base my journeys based on the things around me like new friends, the environment or spirits, but it’s differing playstyles by then

[spring python]

You can look into other playable characters who do have their own personality and compare to see that sky kids don’t really fall into the category (see Joker from Persona 5)

[raw crypt]

sky ocs is like. one of the biggest thing in fandom from what i can see JFHDHHDBD, we love making a little giy and putting them in situations

[sharp lichen]

Again, Joker is an a game that

-Has dialogue, unlike Sky
-Has a player-driven story, unlike Sky
-Is an a completely different genre than Sky

[spring python]

Yeah. That’s why they’re not the same types of character

[sharp lichen]

Well yeah, most characters are different

[untold notch]

sorry do any of y'all know what the topic is because I Cannot tell what is being argued

[sterile orchid]

i don't either

[untold notch]

like everyone's saying things but nothing is really happening I am confusion

[sterile orchid]

we switched it to ocs for a second but i have no idea what's actually going on

[rigid iron]

No you're right I have no idea what's being discussed

[spring python]

Whether or not Sky Kids are self inserts

[cold sparrow]

I agree!! in which case, you would be writing (or imagining) a character you made up!
the point I'm trying to make is that Skykids, just from how they appear in the game without player input, don't have much of a personality, and that is by design
their personality is up for their players to make up, either by how you play to express yourself as your skykid, or by imagining/roleplaying your character to be a certain way

[sharp lichen]

This is where I fundamentally disagree: You can make your own personalities for Skykids, like you can do with any character, but that doesn’t mean the base Skykid is absent from personality

[sterile orchid]

i think this started as someone asking how to write a fanfic about the moth experience?

[sharp lichen]

It wouldn’t be too hard to write an engaging story using only the limited character stuff the base Skykid gets?

[sterile orchid]

what would you even describe that as though, they act like generic children in my eyes

[spring python]

Not even that they just sorta move sometimes which is surely a lot of action

[sharp lichen]

Yeah; which is why I said they should be fleshed out more

-Head scratch when afk
-Turning towards other Skykids when sitting
-Re-interpreting emotes done by the spirits (most notably Fainting Warrior)
-The Second Performance quest
-Using emotes, even ones not learned, in the Performance and Dreams quests

[untold notch]

skykids also do something that can't be done by an emote in the wasteland elder cutscene (please don't censor this for no reason again)

[sterile orchid]

i hate being that guy but using emotes you haven't learned yet in quests is probably just game mechanics. they can't lock you out of a quest just because you haven't learned the emote yet if you don't know which emotes you need without going into the quest

[untold notch]

it's similar to ceasing commodore's emote but not the same which is interesting

[sharp lichen]

You’re also forced to do the emotes, without player input

[untold notch]

which is a thing that's done sometimes to flesh out character

[wild pasture]

Basically, we're trying to figure out if Skykids have their own personality aside from us, and if so, how much of a personality. So far, the arguments are basically:

• Skykids have a hidden personality, one that only surfaces in scenes, idle animations, and some ancestor spirit
• Skykids have little personality, and are mainly just blank slate, self-inserts with only necessary "expressions" to serve the narrative
• There is probably a middle ground, but nobody has really said anything leaning towards a middle ground

[raw crypt]

i think itd be weird is the skykid was completely devoid of reaction, like you can argue the skykid has a base personality but when it comes into ocs ppl make up their own stuff? am i misunderstanding ? like its a kind personality bc thats what the game is abt

[wild pasture]

They do have some personality, I've never said they didnt, but the largest portion of their personality is reserved for us to insert. Otherwise, it's like what Rooty said. Very passive, with very little going on. Standing around, scratching their head.

[sharp lichen]

But was that intended, or just a way for you to play?

[sterile orchid]

it is very much intended i don't know why that needs to be debated

[lusty merlin]

I just feel like they have the passive personality’s seen in cutscenes and all, and we as the player expand on that personality. And if we want to make our own oc’s then we can.

There can be self inserts obviously, but they can also just be a skykid yaknow ? That’s how I see mine, like I don’t see myself in my skykid.

Basically boils down to: express yourself however you want in the way you want

[wild pasture]

Hey, we found the middle ground!

[raw crypt]

WOOOOO

postresh

[lusty merlin]

YIPIEE I WILL ALSO POSTSAH

[sterile orchid]

the last clip being extra blurry is so funny

[tepid veldt]

happy tsadi tuesday 🎉 im on time this time

[south saddle]

bro 💔 it's wednesday for me.. i missed it

[lusty merlin]

Ty for reminding iydll, I can post this again

[nova meadow]

a little lore theory with a drawing of mine- the shard/Eden diamond was artificially created, as a different sort of power diamond able to absorb darkness. The darkness of krills were harnessed, slowly charging the shard. The aim of making the shard was to control krill to win the war featured in wasteland

[tepid veldt]

HELP WHAT

[lusty merlin]

Dw I got you, slink made this

[lusty merlin]

That is intersting but I’m guessing it didn’t work as the krill ended up turning aginst the ancestors in the seeds quest

[south saddle]

what do you think the mods think about us when we do dumb stuff like this... im honestly curious

[untold notch]

this is probably one of the chats I see mods in the least, as it happens

[lusty merlin]

Ash gave Tsadi a cannon chip flavor so (I forget what it is)

[tepid veldt]

give me a minute

[south saddle]

OH EM GEE I GOT NAMED <3333333 best day of my life

[untold notch]

canon accurate name

[tepid veldt]

i cant find it 😭😭 ash left us with the canon dorito flavor and left

[untold notch]

it was something green I remember this I remember the bag being green

[nova meadow]

Yes! I think the elders (or at least forest and eden and maybee wasteland) got too power hungry and overestimated the diamonds ability, letting it slip out of their control and explode as seen in the final shard memory. Perhaps this happened in the middle of the battle in The Seed, which is why krill are attacking people. I believe one side of people had control and then the krills started indiscriminately krilling everybody

[south saddle]

i mean, i regularly just krill dodge. for fun. so it's pretty accurate actually

[untold notch]

I was going more along the lines of dusk having all the bad things happen

[south saddle]

oh yeah I keep forgetting that gw is referred to as dusk too lol

[south saddle]

canon

[lusty merlin]

Hmm I see, I personally don’t see the elders become power hungry per say, more of like that the diamond production was a slow death that they were aware of but knew they can’t turn back. Power diamonds to me are like electricity to us, our world is built around it and would cause major issues if we suddenly didn’t have it. (Basically the situation the sky world was in)

Eden diamond for me looks like it’s trying to help project light up to the sky. I know the elders temple do the same light beam after we watch a cutscene, so I wonder if the diamond was trying to do it artificially to have a constant beam of light to help ancestors ascend

[south saddle]

wait is this a drawing of a doritos bag
did someone make doritos fanart

[untold notch]

it might be the way the online render looks

[sterile orchid]

that looks like a normal PNG of it

[wild pasture]

Hehe, beat me to it.

[sterile orchid]

this is pretty close to what we're talking about but i don't know where in this conversation it could've happened

[untold notch]

here it is

I'm so terrified of replying to a devs message because what if I ping them on accident

[south saddle]

I USED THE EXACT IMAGE WHAHAHAHAH

[sterile orchid]

same omg i had to check like 5 times that i had the right message and that i had the ping turned off

[south saddle]

i thought, 'green bag? sounds like that one doritos flavour' and i was right

[rigid iron]

I think the elders would all be cool ranch and this is the highest honor in my eyes

[sterile orchid]

i don't like doritos at all past the basic flavor so i have no idea what any of them would be

[south saddle]

i think isle would like original

[untold notch]

isle would be unseasoned doritos

[south saddle]

sah is red bag of nacho cheese and mekh is yellow

[untold notch]

why are there two...

[south saddle]

i don't even know i googled nacho cheese doritos and they both came up so i took it as a sign of fate

destined to be nacho cheese

[untold notch]

also @lusty merlin

[lusty merlin]

the fact the red bag is my go to dorito flavor-

[untold notch]

tac confirmed eating sah

[lusty merlin]

NOOOO

[brisk python]

CONSUME SAH

[untold notch]

dawn, day

[sterile orchid]

OMG i also only get the red ones because it's the only flavor of doritos i both like and can even handle

i wonder if the difference between the two different nacho cheese flavors is spice vs no spice

[south saddle]

maybe

[untold notch]

but there's also spicy nacho cheese

[sterile orchid]

can barely find anything but there's apparently just. two different versions
the one website that talks about it won't let me look at the page

[fickle snow]

… i comme back and 100+ message….nice

[south saddle]

this is truly what this chat is for, discussing dorito flavour lore

[fickle snow]

Andddd.i finally have an sky oc ye, tho idk if to aend it here bc qwq

[sterile orchid]

for a channel all about sky lore we sure do not talk about sky lore sometimes

[lusty merlin]

We legit held a trial for crab whisperer to see if they blew up the ark

[sterile orchid]

and then we assigned all the elders a species of bear last week

[lusty merlin]

Lamed is canonically a polar bear according to ash🎉

[tepid veldt]

so true
if i was salem or vela i would talk about the buff actor incident but i unfortunately am not salem or vela

[sterile orchid]

the WHAT

[lusty merlin]

I have faint afterimages off that

[sterile orchid]

i am so confused what does that mean

[lusty merlin]

Ooo it’s from Salems satire fanfic making fun of those very cheesy wattpad fics

[sterile orchid]

oh, yes, thank you for this. so accurate to the real thing it like, actually hurts /hj

[fickle snow]

Narrator/artur, just a normal. Sky kid that it obsessed with lore (phyea sky oc baby >:D)

[tepid veldt]

LMAO ive actually never seen the buff actor incident until this point, this is gold :kuroCry:

[sharp lichen]

Epic emote failure

[keen shore]

I NEARLY FORGOT ABOUT BUFF ACTOR

[raw crypt]

AW theyre so cute!

[fickle wing]

writing down fursona notes

wait just remembered vault Mountain Dew

lamed mountain dew drinker………….

[keen shore]

Realization: Is Night assigned a polar bear because Vault has themes of recording the lost/past as their civilization and world crumbles and polar bears are Going Through It

[lusty merlin]

OUGH that hurts but it would definitely work

[inner basalt]

mekh is that type of elder to literally say “REAL!!! NOT CLICKBAIT!!” whenever their twin says something

[static zephyr]

But we are the sky kids so technically they are use so they would have our personality?

[sharp heart]

Do sky kids even know what a human is?

[untold notch]

do they need to?

[sterile orchid]

you don't need to know what something is to enjoy a song that mentions it

[untold notch]

in fact I listen to songs in other languages often

[sharp lichen]

In video games, we usually take the role of an established character, not the other way around

[untold notch]

oh joy this is again

[sharp lichen]

something about me not liking player insert character or whatever

Performance was a prequel to Aurora?!

[untold notch]

shout out to the days of music for having absolutely zero posting about it btw

[sharp lichen]

I thought days of music was dev only thing 😭

[untold notch]

it's definitely an interesting

[nova meadow]

Whaaaat? I never realised Performance was associated with Aurora. Where did you read this?

[keen shore]

I remember reading the article and getting the distinct feeling that the person who wrote it was making things up as they went

[sharp lichen]

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/the-evolution-of-skys-seasonal-events

@keen shore It seems to come from a reputable source?

[keen shore]

I know but the whole days of music thing read like someone just made it up on the spot, I was completely baffled

[sterile orchid]

would also like to note that that is a third party reporting on what they heard the team did

[keen shore]

The only connection harmony hall gets with Aurora is that they’re in the same realm & also that Aurora mural. I could be wrong, but I get the distinct feeling that if Performance was meant to be a prequel it would be more obvious than how it currently is

[obtuse igloo]

So teth was grinding up manta to make power diamonds right, he's probably the reason they're scattered across the sky, Teth makes gates they're a gate keeper Elder of the 'why won't it light the first time' gates to be specific. Also if theres huge pipes in wasteland were the crystals being gifted to Tsadi so she could power whatever machine is hiding in there??Is there a machine?? I remember seeing an earlier post talking about how power diamonds are like electricity but they really only seem to be only able to function with a skids core, aka cakes, props etc don't work. F in the chat for the poor manta babies.

[obtuse igloo]

I tbh had no clue the two could be connected except that one mural in harmony hall

[half shadow]

I think that Teth is the name of the forest elder?

and Tsadi is Prarie right?

[obtuse igloo]

Uhhh I've seen Tsadi as prairie and wasteland a couple times not sure how solid it is?

[sharp lichen]

Daleth is Isle, Ayin is Prairie, Teth is Forest, Samekh is Valley, Tsadi is Wasteland, Lamed is Vault

”Inspiration taken, the team put together the Days of Music, a year-long musical push that built up to a concert event featuring Aurora.”

It’s not a normal event, just developers in TGC focusing on music.

Which, if true, could mean some pretty Interesting stuff

[half shadow]

Days of Music event: going along happily

Shattering: :)

[obtuse igloo]

The music in sky does absolutely slap

[sharp lichen]

Have you listened to what Vincent Diamanté (the composer) makes? It’s so amazing!

[frigid tinsel]

There’s a new composer for Season of Remembrance btw

[obtuse igloo]

I love it so much, All of sky's music is so beautiful and calming

[sharp lichen]

It would basically deconfirm the idea that Shattering was rushed, because why would they rush to make a season they could so easily release after Aurora?

[half shadow]

i suppose so, i wasn’t aware that was a big theory

[untold notch]

hey can you go find the shattering fanart and concept posts on tgcs website real fast

[obtuse igloo]

Shattering was fan service I liked the dark plant cape, not entirely sure how ts are gonna work but we'll get to that bridge when we eventually find it

[inner basalt]

hey i just realized something, during “All Around Is Stone” in the concert, i didn’t see any skykids, maybe the songs were supposed to say that spirits were here before skykids? /ot
also shattering omg i luv that season

[sly stratus]

I mean, they’re referred to as ancestors a few times I think so probably did come first

[inner basalt]

nice
even though i was probably wrong

[keen shore]

Days of Music being an internal name the company uses within itself is possibly the only explanation beyond ‘they made it up on the spot’

[sharp lichen]

Come on they’ll come out eventually

[obtuse igloo]

Shattering brought the shard events and honestly I'm so happy I don't have to go through Eden every time I want to unlock something in a friendship tree

[keen shore]

If that is the case I wonder how many secret Days Of there are… the forbidden events

[untold notch]

no they won't because they had to put all their team members on aurora instead of shattering, this has been said explicitly although that might have been in a beta chat

[sharp lichen]

I have never heard this being said

[inner basalt]

days of we may never know
or days of lore /J

[obtuse igloo]

I have to physically think how to spell aurora and autocorrect has to save me everytime

[untold notch]

I've set myself up for a difficult task of finding the messages I'm talking about

[sharp lichen]

There’s also the interesting theory that Sanctuary was placed in an odd spot right between Enchantment and Prophecy, two seasons that connected a lot

[obtuse igloo]

Predict the magic

Whale noises

Magic

[untold notch]

what sort of theory is that

[sharp lichen]

One that I’ve made

[untold notch]

right, but what does it say

[rigid iron]

It was in the reddit QnA I think, I remember the thing you're talking about

[half shadow]

wasnt shattering done by a different team?

[sharp lichen]

Also, wasn’t Shattering planned from the start?

From the QNA

“For this season, we started around the beginning of this year and it normally takes our team 6 months to finish a season.

But some of the elements we introduced in this season, were designed and prototyped years earlier. For example, the creature spirit fragment you collected at the end of the Red Shard Event was a design that originated around 2018, and the crawling & healing mechanism was a feature we prototyped before we shipped Sky and we really loved how it create the moments of saving others by risking your own life. We just didn't get enough time to finish at that time.”

[rigid iron]

Yeah here it is, they had a skeleton crew

[sharp lichen]

But the things required for Shattering and the things required for Aurora are very different

It wasn’t a “skeleton crew”, just a re-prioritizing of specifically animation content

We know very little about TGC’s development in general, and there’s the added caveat of the animation project as well

[raw crypt]

staring out the window like a maiden waiting for her husband thats out at sea

[wanton ivy]

woahh that looks so cool what are those?

[sharp lichen]

Season of Shattering concepts I believe, I don’t know from where

[raw crypt]

These are concepts arts from the korean sky assembly, there was a concept art wall and these pictures were taken from various attendees

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1wY7KcmVeu3PTqm-a2Ap_xzZ8caAuzbZv

[sharp lichen]

Found them

[untold notch]

that's not what I meant

I've been in chat that is objectively not a post on tgcs site and it is in fact in a different country

[raw crypt]

Well we still haven’t gotten a full post, unfortunately i think it got lost in the shuffle of a million aurora posts, shattering was definitely not the focus because aurora was the huge big season, i doubt it was rushed but just not as focused as aurora for obvious reasons

I still love the season tho, number 2 shattering defender

[sharp lichen]

Yeah, it seemed that all of 2022 was probably a hype train for Aurora internally

[raw crypt]

gotta get that swag collab hype (i an glad for the collab bc apparently my fave brand of artist is collabs with a game i like LMAO, mili being number one and aurora a close second)

[wanton ivy]

these are incredible wth, there's so many pictures everywhere it's so pretty

[raw crypt]

YEAAA i love seeing tgc concept art, its always so fascinating

[lusty merlin]

the crystals

[sharp lichen]

PROPHECY CONCDEPT WHEN

[raw crypt]

we actually have a transcription !

[wanton ivy]

the group concepts look like the spirits huddled together for a group photo it's so cute

[raw crypt]

i wonder if theyre just holding off on the aurora and shattering concepts bc of the art book (lying to myself)

im hoping we get the book for skys fourth anniversary

[lusty merlin]

the crystal with the ight OOO

[wanton ivy]

there's gonna be an artbook?!? man i hope it's at least available in my country

[raw crypt]

Yeah! Weve seen it in skyshop displays, but not yet available for purchase, if thatskyshop delivers to your country already hopefully you can get it! (trying to find my images rn)

THERE SHE BE

[lusty merlin]

ARTB BOOK ART BOOK A RT BOOJ

[raw crypt]

NOT ME FORGETTINGBTHE LITERAL ANNOUNCEMENT TWEET

[wanton ivy]

OMG OMG idc how expensive it is i will buy it

[frigid tinsel]

That doesn’t mean they started planning Shattering from the start, rather they took discarded concepts to use for Shattering. From the Shattering Reddit Q&A, they mentioned that the shards and crawling mechanic was something they wanted since Light Awaits but the technology wasn’t capable of it yet

[raw crypt]

shattering so fun season of GO TO HELL

[wanton ivy]

i only noticed this now beach bum

[raw crypt]

YES I LOVE IT SO MUCH its the only sanc concept art i have i believe and its one of the best spirits ever

[wanton ivy]

live laugh love hawaiian spirit

[sharp lichen]

The one that started a controversy in beta chat, what a legend

[keen shore]

A skeleton crew… wow just like the Ark

[keen shore]

The remembrance spirits started a controversy in beta chat for being poor, sunbather isn’t special

[sterile orchid]

i almost laughed at this

[vocal forge]

so im starting an observation on the spirits.

[sterile orchid]

which ones?

[vocal forge]

spinner.

[sharp lichen]

HUH

[keen shore]

Twirl, the lightseeker? I love them a lot i have gotten so attached in the span of 48 hours

[sterile orchid]

my friend got attached to twirling champion simply because we saw them in the sapling quest once i'm amazed i only did that now, with the event

[lucid bridge]

What do you think these lookouts were for?

[sterile orchid]

i always thought they were remnants of treehouses

[fickle snow]

that.... makes sense

[vocal forge]

= spinner goes with piggyback to see him perform magic. casual guy fails, he claps though, and tries to micmic it. he looks around and then slouches. he recovers and looks at the small patch of grass. thinks then does a crabwalk and then shrugs. he moves onto the patch of grass and collect shis breath. he does a little dance.then he does the no symbol. He does another little dance. once again repeats the no gesture. He starts marching on the spot. He repeats the no gesture. He does a series of kiss emotes staring at the ark. He does the no symbol again. he falls on the ground and has a tantrum. he gets up. he moves to look at the lightseeker crew. he watches them before going back to the patch of grass and sitting there. other lightseeker comes forth, does a spell. the grass grows. there is white sparkles. The other lightseeker does a green twirl. More grass grows. twirl watches. He claps for the other lightseeker as he bows and goes back to the tent. Twirl follows him and kneels to him, an offer of gratitude he walks to a sparse patch o f galss, wipes sweat off his brow, dusts his shoulders nad does the strong warrior symbol. he stands on it and tries to mimic the lightseeker. he breathes in, then does a little twirl on the grass. then he does the no symbol again. he sinks to the knees and does the pleading emote and then seems sad. he stomps on the ground and throws a little frustrated tantrum. he walks to another patch of grass and seems to think for a whiel. gets up and wipes sweat off his brow. stands on the patch of grass, does the breathing in gesture again. will he do another twirl? he indeed does do a little spin on the grass. he looks back towards the other lightseeker, who is successfuly doing the grass grow spell. He seems to be observing how the lightseeker does it. He sinks to his knees, pleading. He continues to watch. the other lightseeker goes back to the. tent. he does the yoga and returns back to his little patch of grass, mimicking the movements.

[lusty merlin]

This reads as an animal documentary voiceover observing twirl

[sterile orchid]

i thought it was piggyback lightseeker who does the magic stuff? they're the only one i have ascended out of the whole group so it's easy to tell them apart

[vocal forge]

Twirl fails to mimic the spell and has another breakdown over his failure. he walks slowly away. He walks back to the tent. he looks at his friends and seems sad.he walks slowly and stands between crab and the piggyback, before he takes a seat by the fire.

[untold notch]

if i had a dollar for everyone documenting twirl like a documentary id have two dollars

[sterile orchid]

who all is doing that though

[tepid veldt]

i read it as either a) someone’s broken translator or b) an intense twirl fan who isnt salem

ill be fr, i really thought it was option a

[vocal forge]

I'm going to wait until twirl repeats his cycle before i start observing other spirits. he's the most active, but right now he's just pondering.

[sterile orchid]

twirl just wants to do the cool light magic! :(

[untold notch]

twirl wants enchantment guide to notice them for... reasons

[lusty merlin]

Think you observed their entire cycle, i do hope the other light seekers eventually follow with their own routines like what bloom last year did over the corse of the event

[sterile orchid]

something i've noticed is that there's a point he's at a different patch of grass while piggyback is trying to grow it with the green swirl, after piggyback is done with the emote twirl goes and piggyback just stares at them before walking away again

[lusty merlin]

“Figure it out yourself”

[fickle snow]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-mr-krabs-suffer-gif-23519953

piggy bac k be like:

[sterile orchid]

twirl seems so actually sad they can't do cool light stuff outside of making the emotes just look cooler and i feel bad but can't help but laugh at piggyback just

[vocal forge]

Twirl has little baby tantrums about not being able to do magic.

I diagnose twirl with little brother syndrome.

[inner basalt]

i was just talking about them in another server lol

[lusty merlin]

Bringing this up again but I feel like learning how to control normal light compared to color light is a very steep learning curve even they haven’t managed quite yet

[inner basalt]

frantic stagehand is def hyper and mellow musician just is focusing on music this is canon because i say so

[keen shore]

They meet someone they can’t be friends with immediately and their golden retriever heart is shattered and broken

[uncut pond]

Iirc the remembrance cosmetics used to have a blue-er color palette instead of green and they also used to look less ragged, so naturally when TGC changed that to better fit the story they wanted to tell the cosmetic collectors went crazy

I might be remembering wrong tho

[vocal forge]

His cycle is repeating. Time to observe piggyback. Piggyback breathes in. he does a little magic. He does the levitating as twirl seems shocked. Twirl claps for him and piggyback bows. Piggyback walks back and sits by the fire. Twirl is still at the patch of grass, and he slouches and seems to be observing the grass patches. But then again he is just doing his routine.Casual stance fellow goes out occasionally with his umbrella to check the rain. After a few minutes, Piggyback goes out again to where twirl is sitting, does the breathe in, point up, and does the magic. Twirl claps as pggyback does a bow and goes back to the tent. twirl kneels to him, honoured. Piggyback does not respond. piggyback sits at the fire for another few minutes. I'm assuming it's rather cold, since crabcalls cycle consists of her shivering before the fire occasionally. anyways back to piggyback. he goes over to a patch of grass. twirl turns to watch. he does the breathe in, breath out gesture.the magic happens as he does the floating gesture, encouraging grass. he once again finishes it with a bow. he does not acknowledge twirl as twirl mimics him. piggyback goes back to underneat the tent and sits by the fire. cycle end as twirl has his breakdown over failing to mimic piggyback and starts walking back slowly to the tent.

[keen shore]

the repeated theme of piggyback does not respond is sending me to tears

[fickle snow]

now alasdair would have three coins

[untold notch]

im not al, if you're referencing the messge i sent

[sterile orchid]

me, salem, and fin all just. sitting at the event area watching the funny spirits do funny things

[nova meadow]

#justicefortwirl

[fickle snow]

yes, your icons are like to me lol

[vocal forge]

piggy back goes out againt, repeats the cycle as twirl stays in the tent. he does the bow always after. it makes me wonder if i can mimic him as he heads back to the tent and sits back down beside twirl. i believe this is the cycles end. Double highfives cycle is also simple he sits by the fire, and occasionally stands up to start a song. casual stances is just to go out and occasionally check on the rain. Im going to observe shushing scholar now.

[half shadow]

thinking about the Lightseekers trying to communicate with the Enchantment guide but they’re way too far away to hear so it’s just a long distance shouting match while Enchant is like “wow it looks like they’re all having fun :)”

[fickle snow]

tho i wonder why they cant just walk towards them... and done

[sterile orchid]

oh hold on i have images of how well this whole group can be seen let me find them

[lusty merlin]

Probably to keep all of them tied to a certain area incase some players want to find them

[vocal forge]

Shushing scholar observes the rain from inside the tent and i start wondering if he gets bored of standing. He summons blue light, which goes up into the sky. He returns to standing. I can see twirl and piggyback in the corner, doing their thing. Scholar summons more blue light, it brings rain. It doesnt stop raining now. I've noticed that. Do you think they change routines every day? I'm going to see what happens next reset. Twirl is over there being silly. doing a little crab motion. Obedient scholar once again summons blue light. I think his cycle is him summoning blue light every three minutes. From my observations i've observed tht if anything, twirl seems the most lively, with his attempts to copy piggyback, and repeated motions to try and summon the grass himself. Piggyback is second on the activity level. Overall the other spirits seem reluctant to leave the comfort of the tent, and it reminds me of a bunch of guys being forced to go on. a fieldtrip and its cold and soggy and. not many are having fun. anyways. end research observation.

[sterile orchid]

THIS
enchantment guide would barely be able to see them in the first place, and on top of that they have the fog from the rain. it's likely not intentional ignorance

[fickle snow]

now the dude who's pfp looks like alasdair's would have 3 coins... lol

[keen shore]

I don’t think they would be mean enough to ignore Twirl anyways even if they are getting rained on

[lusty merlin]

Their name is astral btw

[sterile orchid]

not the guide's fault they chose that one spot, so far away, to try this

[fickle snow]

okey 😄

[vocal forge]

Its so funny this is what the guide sees he sees NOTHING

[lusty merlin]

Think that’s just the camera angle and not actually putting in where their face is directing

[vocal forge]

I'm facing towards the lightseekers crew. I cant see anything.

[lusty merlin]

Oh I see them now! Sorry! The fog really does somthing

Like very faintly but they’re there

[vocal forge]

Enchantment guide: Damn whats that over there 😐

[sterile orchid]

you can se a tiny bit of glow where the spirits are but it's really hard to see with the rain

[uncut pond]

I find that "forced to go on a field trip and not having fun" analogy way too relatable. damn
Now I just wanna stop playing the game normally and just stay on the tent with the lightseekers to keep them company for the rest of the event

[keen shore]

The cycles seem to be changing a bit, maybe the others will get more to do as their stuff begins to appear!

[sterile orchid]

twirl's little gets me every time

[vocal forge]

be lightseekers
scholar wants us to go on a field trip
ask scholar if the fieldtrip is creepy or wet.
scholar looks confused
i pull out diagram explaining what is creepy and what is wet
scholar laughs and says "its a good fieldtrip guys"
go on fieldtrip
its wet.

[uncut pond]

I'm gonna explode

[sterile orchid]

has it always been Lightseekers involved in the bloom events?
i know there's a few of them in forest social space for the wisteria tree (trying to grow that similar to what they're doing with the grass now) but since the first one was at Home i doubt there were any of them then

[vocal forge]

yes! theyre also in forest. oh snap i should probably observe them there..

[sterile orchid]

all i've seen them doing there is at the tree

[vocal forge]

last event they walked around

[lusty merlin]

It’ll take awhile over the event but eventually all of them will be moving around and interacting with one another, bloom last year is when we first got the lighhtseekera

[half shadow]

GOD this is so funny

[keen shore]

Twirl going through several character arcs trying to get Enchantments attention and meanwhile they just stand there obliviously like ? :3

[vocal forge]

It doesnt seem like theyve been trying to get the guides attention. (fron what i observe anyway)

[sterile orchid]

i was thinking of if there could be more of a connection between bloom and lightseekers besides light = good for plants = lightseekers go in Bloom

especially with them actually using the lights this year and not just upgraded emotes

[half shadow]

Scholar: you know they literally can’t see you right

Twirl: no, no i swear that i saw them twitch

[sterile orchid]

it's likely just them trying to mimic piggyback since that's about the only way they know how to help, but it's funnier to imagine they're trying to get the guide's attention so they can learn how to use the lights like shush

[fickle snow]

ddxxd

damn.. now iw ant to make my own documental.... runs to tghe ipad

edit: dislexia strikes again

[vocal forge]

forest observation. dhighfive andcasual horse around with the tree and dhighfive trys to catch a butterfly. Casual tells him off. they stand around for a little while, and then casual honks. dh5 does a yogapose and casual blows a kiss. dh5 walks away from casual. casual honks again. dh5 watches the tree. casual starts clapping and dh5 giggles. they both walk towards the front of the clearing. casual pulls out his umbrella, and dh5 plays a little song on his flute. casual listens to him play. dh5 finishes, casual puts away his umbrella. dh5 does a little sprinkle of conftti and casual asks for a headpat from the player. dh5 walks away.he walks back to the tree as casual starts marching on the spot. dh5 seems to be motivating the tree. casual walks over to him. they watch the tree. casual shivers.they continue to watch the tree. dh5 does a little dance. casual gets angry at him for doing the silly dance. i say let him be silly. they continue to watch the tree. i have a feeling they are here for serious business and casual doesnt like horsing around. dh5 does a little <3 and casual BLUSHES?? AND DOES THE SHY EMOTE??

[sterile orchid]

HELLO??

[untold notch]

oh my stars these people are QUEER 🎉

[vocal forge]

casual walks away, so does dh5, both to different places. dh5 seems to be having a bit of a angry moment and from far away, casual bows an apology? lol. theyre both off standing in their own corners. dh5 grows bored and does the lazy sunbather emote. casual does the kungfu pose and highfive blows some bubbles. highfive walks over to the little table an dlooks at it. now its casuals turn to blow some bubbles. dh5 laughs at the little tea table. casual walks away as dh5 claps at the little table. casual watches and then does the levitating pose at the tree. then he does a backflip handstand. dh5 waves. dh5 is currently sort of staring at the tree while casual stares at him. dh5 isnt acknowledging him as casual pops some confetti. dh5 yawns. they both go back to looking at the tree. cycle ends.

dh5 and highfive are the same person btw. just shortened it for documenting purposes.

from observation dh5 seems chill

[sterile orchid]

laidback asking for headpats is so cute

[vocal forge]

yeah.. it is.. :)

[sterile orchid]

there's a lot of standing around in the forest one

and staring at a tree

[buoyant agate]

Quick question, so each realms, has a name right?
But what's the name of like the entire world in Sky?

[lusty merlin]

Theres no official name on what the sky world as a whole would be called, unless devs add it in a future season it’s unknown

[buoyant agate]

Oh, alright then

[light ivy]

what are all the spirits names that are currently under the tent in ark? one of them keeps blowing kisses at enchantment guide

[lusty merlin]

#questions-and-help would better work for this for sombody to give all the spirit names

[sterile orchid]

they're all spirits! here's the wiki page with all their names (i have to keep referring to it for the same thing so i have it pulled up) https://sky-children-of-the-light.fandom.com/wiki/Season_of_Lightseekers

[frigid tinsel]

They’re from the Season of Lightseekers

[fickle snow]

i... am really making an actual documental lol qwq

[sterile orchid]

oh my god this is great

it's so many more people than i expected following the spirits around to see what they do

i have art to be working on but instead i'm watching twirl be a funny silly little guy, i need to log off of Sky

[vocal forge]

We’re following twirl with a little pen and paper on a notepad and we are taking notes every time he starts crying cus he cant do what piggyback does

[sharp heart]

wish there was a way to replay the first 4 seasons, but the guides are gone forever 🥲

plus its not like there isnt anywhere to put them, belonging guide can be at grandmas table since they're the same person

[sterile orchid]

,, maybe go to #wishlist-and-ideas-archived?

or #live-feedback that could also work i think

[untold notch]

they didn't really have quests or so im told

[sterile orchid]

the quests were basically "go relive this spirit memory" but it would be fun to see the guides from the rest of them like we do with grandma

[untold notch]

there is the Auspicious Visitor which is totally just gratitude guide

[sterile orchid]

i guess we do also see rhythm guide in the last performance quest but that doesn't feel like enough i want to watch them do things

[light ivy]

Okay well I looked and twirl was blowing kisses at the guide

[fickle snow]

Here is the u,timate documental abt twirl(sry for wuality, discord wont allow me to upload smt else qwq)

[floral skiff]

is eden supposed to look pretty from afar to lure new players in?

[sterile orchid]

i do love the contrast between shining beacon of light telling you where to go and then Eden is actually just completely devoid of light and filled with death

[pastel brook]

huh!

Are dark creatures a natural evolution?

[astral hinge]

So we're literally moths flying towards the pretty lights that is actually a trap that electrocutes you

[halcyon hull]

So, why is the earth near the big bloomtree in forest is honking

[austere pawn]

Actua'ly we're stars that fell (shooting stars that you wish on) to fulfill the spirits wishes and take them back home. When we're "reborn" we comeback to fulfill more wishes

....that's what i got when i stumbled upon lore discussion

Edit: Wait, i actually saw in the comments on yt AND was a PART of the lore discussion too! (when playing)

.
.
.
.....oh. so that's what you were talking about

[sharp lichen]

Or maybe piggyback has all the lights to themselves and isn’t sharing it

[sharp lichen]

Ain’t no way 💀

[sharp lichen]

Like we didn’t already know that

[sharp lichen]

Nobody really knows, but I do have a theory.

The last realm of the game is called the Eye of Eden. Eye usually refers to center, so it’s the center of Eden. Because of this, I think the whole Sky land used to be called “Eden”.

[ebon wind]

Could relate that to depictions of black holes
I don't know much but I believe due to the gravitational pull light circles the black hole making it incredibly bright however within the event horizon no light can actually exist or whatever, from the top of my head

[frozen crown]

Theory: Vault of Knowledge is mostly a projection.

With the Remembrance Season and the change of the Shared Spaces stone, I feel the main message is that blue crystals are used to project things, and incredibly, the top of Vault has a projection crystal, that's when I finally started to connect some things:

The Vault is unrealistically large inside, having an infinite void after reaching its third floor, where the walls dissolve. The creatures become translucent and instead of a library of memories, it becomes islands, waterfalls, platforms... Maybe Vault is actually projecting several different memories, and when it reaches the top, it's projecting from inside the castle of Eden, when it wasn't broken, this can be seen by the existence of the thrones in Vault, the same thrones from the top of Eden, in the same place as the castle broke and started floating its rest in the sky.

When we finally meditate on the spot, we are teleported to another area, or actually to the real Vault? Its middle has a broken elevator, there is no way we could have gotten there, maybe we finally deactivate the projection, and this is the real Vault? When we enter the door to Eden, we can look back and see exactly what the real Vault looks like, a small tower, an elevator that would bring us closer to the entrance of Eden and its castle.

[uncut pond]

If you consider that we enter vault from the bottom of wasteland and we get out in the middle of a tall mountain, maybe the vault is actually tall, and the elevator was working somehow
Otherwise I agree

[ebon wind]

I actually had a theory that is almost an extension of that, it involves the idea that the projections of vault are accidental, a result of whatever brought the kingdom to ruin causing the memories to project by themselves

We use crystals to open doors and rebuild bridges which I think is a result of returning light to the crystals which then try to put back the memory of an open door are an intact bridge. But we also light the husks of spirits after we relive their memories, the husks also emit a similar blue light, I propose that when the spirits died, something caused them to turn into the crystals and that these spirits are one in the same with the projections we see in vault. I hope that makes sense

Aka the spirits are projections of the memories of fallen ancestors who turned to stone alone the kingdoms collapse, the only question is why did they turn to stone and why wasn't everyone in the kingdom turn to stone?

[halcyon hull]

No.

[native galleon]

i think it is actually tall, you can see it in the mural in the isle temple!! but maybe the upper floors of vault are like that because of projections or magic or weird space stuff that happens when you get close to eden/orbit who knows

[final trail]

gay

[cold sparrow]

I see that you're new to this server. This channel isn't for sharing videos, but for talking about the story and world of Sky. You might want to head to #screenshots-and-videos

[cold sparrow]

elaborate?

[soft ledge]

Context (Joke Lore): Performance Gang is responsible for shooting down Ark Gang's ship just so their Music Shop business becomes a success

Performance and Ark are two rival companies that sells items and spells to skids

[earnest briar]

Honestly if anything Performance Gang would want the ship to make it because they could use the Colored Lights to enhance their plays.

[soft ledge]

Yeah but Ark Gang wants none of that, and so the rivalry was formed.

[earnest briar]

Performance gang receives Colored Light and Ark gang receives money, sounds like a good deal tbh

[soft ledge]

Performance Guide saw Enchantment Guide's net worth and decided that it's time to get rid of their competition and sabotaged their ship

[queen pike]

i meant to say perhaps ;-;

[round parrot]

Well, I mean it does shine similar to a winged light

[sharp lichen]

Speaking of which, what do you think colored lights are? Are they magical artifacts or natural arts?

[cold sparrow]

why not both

[earnest briar]

I'd say a mix of both. Colored Light is magical, but people can naturally be attuned to it and learn to wield it. Lightseekers train those with attunement to Colored Lights how to use them.

[sharp lichen]

What I meant was that are the colored lights equivalent to the Enchantment lights, or are they only related?

Then again, Sky’s magic system will probably never be explained, so I guess anything can be possible

[cold sparrow]

What do you mean? The Enchantment crew is using the colored lights, are they not?

[sharp lichen]

We see 2 forms: the one with symbols, and the one without symbols. I’m wondering if they’re the same or different things

[untold notch]

how do you mean that

[sharp lichen]

In the Season of Enchantment quests, we see the colored lights with symbols (later changed to fit Prophecy) on them. But in every other season, the colored lights don’t have any symbol on them

[lusty merlin]

The image/symbol of the color lights are supposed to show which one it is?

When we find them ingame they don’t need those because we can see the colors

[untold notch]

they are in fact colored that's true

[sharp lichen]

I guess, I think I’m thinking too hard into this

[lusty merlin]

Definitely

[half shadow]

but the real question is: what do they taste like

[olive yarrow]

I wonder if culinary exists when Spirits are still alive

[lusty merlin]

Oh 100%! I can totally see each sky region having its own regional twist on the foods ancestors like and even their own unique dishes

Like valley would definitely have warm and hot foods for being in the mountains and forest would be super big on mushrooms

[shrewd mantle]

The only food skykids have technically seen from spirits (from what i recall) are the tea and round balls from the tea sets/picnics. So I wonder if that’s a reflection of the ancestors food, or they have that personally tailored for the skykids

[lusty merlin]

I feel like it’s just a very small snippet on what sky food could be. But that’s just just me whishfully hoping for a food centred season one day

Though the theme of light orbs I can definitely see be tailored to skykids since we get our energy from light, I know warrior of love in their memory was feeding a manta a light orb as well (also a creature made of light) so it could be another type of that

We do have marshmallows too though I guess that also falls into the circle theme

[lusty merlin]

Also I’m not suggesting we’re eating manta feed I’m just saying the light orb thing would be the best food skykids and mantas alike would enjoy

[shrewd mantle]

I’d love to have a season centered on food tho, I imagine a lot of the items could be a chat item too

[keen shore]

We know they at least ate fish and mushrooms, off the top of my head. Dismayed Hunter was hunting something, and Scarecrow Farmer was growing something in their farm, but those could be for cloth or leather even if I think it’s likelier they’re to eat

[lusty merlin]

Yeah I was thinking that too! I feel like a season centred around food would actually have food models above any other time, plus making new models doesn’t happen overnight

[shrewd mantle]

I wonder what some of the cosmetics would look like too. A chefs hat would be cute

[lusty merlin]

I feel like whatever animal was being hunted that every part would be used, sky to me would try to use every part of an animal and not just one part and throw it away

[lusty merlin]

A lot of aprons, probably updo/short hairstyles I can imagine with their own sky twist

[keen shore]

Manta leather has got to be pretty common then

[lusty merlin]

Ough yeah, leather can be used in alot of stuff so it could’ve been used from clothes to leather straps and ect

[shrewd mantle]

You think dark creatures would be used that way too? They were in a battle, what would they do with all those corpses when they defeat them? Burn them???

[half shadow]

the crabs in the fire is suspicious

[lusty merlin]

Free food in the war, even if it’s rotting probably 😬

[half shadow]

I wouldn’t really think that krills are edible, we don’t have any evidence suggesting that and the only thing we see is a crab roasting on stick (changed to the crabs in the pan) at the fireplace in GW

[keen shore]

Unfortunately, it is possible that dark creatures can’t die. I think of them almost like zombies, reanimated and largely controlled by the corruption. You can take them down for a bit, throw heavy chains around them to keep them in place, but as soon as those chains start rusting or the anchors where they meet the ground start to crumble…

I like to imagine a lot of krills have spears sticking out of them in spots that would otherwise be ‘vital’ (like their throat or eyes) for this exact reason

[lusty merlin]

Crabs would also be a good food source if the intention was to eat and not cure but that’s just my personal headcannon. Wouldn’t taste good at all and propbably not even edible but thy made do with it in order to even survive

[shrewd mantle]

You think it’s possible for us to revert the dark creatures back? Has it happened before? I’d imagine shoving enough light into the thing would do something

[untold notch]

I don't think there's anything left to bring back

[keen shore]

Right now, we don’t know. We did something to the abyss leviathan but that was us making us spit out a bunch of fish (& us!) it ate, not uncorrupting it

[lusty merlin]

The bonfire crabs show we can have friendly crabs, those same crabs also don’t have the dark particles like the aggressive crabs do

Doing that for a krill however is a different story entirely and only seems to remove the darkness and not phyiscally change them

[shrewd mantle]

I always had the head cannon that the crabs are only hostile bc they’re in an environment without light. We can see this in the bonfire and on the islands in prairie. Maybe the dark particles are stuck to them??

[lusty merlin]

I see it as a sort of infection, like with darkness plants when we burn they realse the wax

[lusty merlin]

I wonder if you have to be injured to be infected by darkness

[keen shore]

I wonder if ancestors could get infected by darkness plants

[untold notch]

I'm looking at you

[shrewd mantle]

Isn’t there a theory for this? And it’s why the kingdom fell? For just darkness in general

[keen shore]

Not really. Ancestors getting infected by darkness would probably kill them; the pollution of their world, the war, and their kingdom’s downfall were their own decisions, not a parasite’s

[shrewd mantle]

Ok ok! Thanks

[lusty merlin]

I can see it being transmitted by wounds, easiest way to get to inner light to feed on and it’s how the majority of infections spread quickest

[half shadow]

though darkness and dark plants can acting seemingly parasitic, or at least grow from spirits as seen in poor light miner’s memory

[keen shore]

👁️ 👁️

[untold notch]

light miner mentioned Salem activated

[lusty merlin]

Hel

Yeah I was thinking of them too

[half shadow]

i knew it would :)

[keen shore]

AM I THIS PREDICTABLE…

[untold notch]

you literally responded with 👁️👁️ I feel as though it's not hard to guess

[lusty merlin]

Like with me and sah

[half shadow]

anybody: oh yeah, light mi—

salem: rapidly approaching footsteps

[untold notch]

legend has it that Salem takes exactly seven steps to approach anyone who mentions tearful light miner

[lusty merlin]

You like the number seven right? /ref

[keen shore]

The next node in their memory is them standing over stacks of stone that seem to function as symbolic graves, implying the other spirit (I like to think it’s whale whisperer) was still alive when they got infected 😁

[lusty merlin]

Love media that’s made for younger audiences that go dark

[half shadow]

Sky is super duper dark and i like it

the first time I saw tearful light miners memory was i think maybe the first moment for me in sky that made me go like “oh….. damn there’s more to this than just a chill flying simulator huh”

[half shadow]

bfhrjgjfjf i’m crying at that salem THEYRE IN THE SAME POSE AND EVERYTHING…

[lusty merlin]

Sky implying in Abyss that mantas were captured, caged, and possibly killed for their light to make the diamonds we light. As seen in the laughing spirit trying to catch light naturally to auroras concert showing the manta kidnapping :)

[untold notch]

yoink

[keen shore]

Fun fact! Since lightminer’s cave is located so out of the way, and is hidden by darkness plants, almost everyone who relives them will do so on their second runthrough of forest or after. Just like Wasteland’s refinery pollution, the brutal tolls of darkstone mining are hidden while you go through Valley the first time and get rose colored glasses towards it

[half shadow]

i did it on my first one i didn’t forget them…………………

[lusty merlin]

I think I did it to on my first run cuz I was exploring :(

Moth me seeing the cyclone: •_•

[half shadow]

tearful light miner x the miner from aurora i forgot the name of. let them hug and bond over The Horrors

[keen shore]

I also think about this a lot because if it IS whale whisperer, the implications with them being one of the only spirits who doesn’t have a memory & being overgrown by darkness you have to clear before they can manifest are really neat (and heartbreaking)

[shrewd mantle]

I imagine the dark lore behind sky can even be understood by the younger generation (I hope). Considering sky is mostly communicated through emotes and physical actions. Overall, it does have a really good message throughout the game, if we want to get symbolic.

[quick jasper]

mindful miner my guy ever <3

[keen shore]

YES ‼️

[lusty merlin]

Yaya, sky has a consistent environmental metaphor from the war, to the extortion of animals, sea level’s rising, and the slow descruction of it all

[keen shore]

now I am thinking abt lightminer again…

[quick jasper]

wait i think i might have drawn these two together before. let me go look

[half shadow]

my plan worked

[shrewd mantle]

It really is a beautiful message and story line in general

[quick jasper]

FOUND IT sketchbook doodle but still

[lusty merlin]

OUGH the evers 🫶

[half shadow]

oughghgjfhfjjhf

[keen shore]

The symbolic stone graves vs the graves at the end of their memory imply that they were the sole survivor of the cave-in (possible souping not included) and returned to bury their friends later

[keen shore]

WEEPING AND STARING THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHARING THIS

[brisk python]

thinking about why one of the lightseekers in piggyback's memory sprouts darkness near the end of the memory,,,i never got that

[keen shore]

That’s rejecting voyager! They also sprout darkness in their own memory, interestingly enough, but not when they appear in stargazer’s memory…

[half shadow]

mysterious

[keen shore]

I like to think they have/had chronic darkness sickness and were infected with it after stargazer’s memory takes place, but before their own does. It got worse and worse until the time piggyback’s memory takes place, when things were falling apart and it might’ve become harder to receive medical care and light to slow it down consistently. Maybe that’s why the group was looking for light in the first place

[half shadow]

ough hhh that’s a sad thought :(((

[cold sparrow]

this is so cute omg

[brisk python]

this poor blorbo,,

[tender rock]

Has anyone else notice that the door to the temple of the Elder of Isle of Dawn is very similar to the door to Eden?

[lusty merlin]

To me it seems to be a paraell, not the same as there’s major differences, but it could be a metaphor for entering the light to entering the darkness (type of light foreshadowing in a way)

[keen shore]

A lot of the spirits we see who have darkness plants you burn away to progress their memory (I think there’s more but I’m forgetting) don’t seem to have ‘decayed’ memories. Like, they’re all follow the spirit quests to my memory, each of the nodes are clearly visible as memories, and so on. It seems to imply that darkness latching on to a spirit memory and decaying it is different from darkness infecting an ancestor, which I think about a lot

[lusty merlin]

Ough yeah

[tender rock]

I've read a theory/story of someone from reddit that the Elder of Isle of Dawn raised the former Elder of Eden. So many answers as to why their doors are so similar

[keen shore]

Is it the one with the concept screenshot?

[lusty merlin]

Well that idea is entirely fannon and was probably from very early concept art like like Salem said. In the live game there’s nothing saying the isle elder actually raised them

[olive yarrow]

Season of culinary XD

[lusty merlin]

A lot of folks tend to use super early concept art when sky was still deciding on the type of message and game it wanted to portray and be. Yet a lot of people tend to see the SUPER old concepts and display them as fact when they’re pretty much scrapped content

[vague glen]

i like to think that a season based around cooking would be called season of indulgence 🙏 and i will die on this hill

[shrewd mantle]

Then perish/j I can get behind that actually. That’s a good name. I forgot to ping

[halcyon wren]

These spirits in the first song of AURORA's concert are very mysterious to me. Who are they and what do they mean to AURORA?

[lusty merlin]

Probably to just show all types of ancestors coming together in a metaphor way as we’re there to say them, Aurora concert tends to have symbolism time to time

[untold notch]

I have zero memory of seeing those ancestors help

[shrewd mantle]

Same

[halcyon wren]

Looks like lore chat needs a field trip (DM me if you want to go see the show sometime)

[shrewd mantle]

I’m in

[lusty merlin]

I remeber thinking of making a fan season around food, my names were either: Plentidute or Abundance and the main story was helping the ancestors prepare for a huge cookout and invite other ancestors so all of them can catch up and eat together

[shrewd mantle]

Love that idea

[lusty merlin]

Tyy! I want to learn about actual sky food so bad I can think of a lot of dishes already

Like each quest would go through each realm (minus eden) and make an array of dishes unique to that realm

[native galleon]

I don’t think it’s them in stargazer’s memory, I have both ascended but in the memory only stargazer is gold

[shrewd mantle]

Sm times I wonder what food would taste like to our skykid, or if we’d even be able to taste it. Would it taste like wax? Who knows

[quick jasper]

i wanna get to know the bald one they seem nice

[vague glen]

i want the cooking season to have a grandma cameo i want to make light buns w/ grandma

omg im a ghost now

[shrewd mantle]

Grandmaaaaaa

[lusty merlin]

Ough imagining the cookout becoming a potluck as each ancestor also brings their own food

[half shadow]

I’m on the #MouthTruther side of history (the side that thinks Ancestors had mouths) so i wanna see more spirit food too

[shrewd mantle]

Maybe each quest is helping them prepare it or smth. Or finding ingredients

[lusty merlin]

Yaya that’s pretty much how they go, gathering ingredients and then making It

[shrewd mantle]

I wonder what ingredients tho ? Cause most quests incorporate interacting with the environment. Would the quest area be a kitchen??

[lusty merlin]

Help yeah, same here just god I can imagine light bloom stew, star bread, spicy and hot dishes ect

[vague glen]

being a ghost made it sound like im begging to have my messages pinned... aur naur! i only wish to be pinged!

anyways, itd be so cute to gather mushrooms in forest... maybe plants (herbs?) in prairie.. or shells/clams/etc in sanctuary?

[brisk python]

all the elders come down to celebrate it w/ us but sah and mehk fight over who has the biggest scoop of ice cream in their bowl (it's the same size) [im going to draw this.]

[native galleon]

tea brewer supposedly knew a lot about plants and stuff and used it to make tea so why not food

[vague glen]

"mines melting faster so obviously you have more!"
"JUST BECAUSE ITS MELTED DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE ANY LESS ICE CREAM, ITS JUST IN LIQUID FORM NOW!!"

[quick jasper]

can you imagine getting a cooking season AND elder content? I'd pass away fr

[lusty merlin]

I can imagine ir being a makeshift restraunt and kitchen that was kinda destroyed during the war, can imagine all of them looking for herbs and ingredients and make do of what they have

[shrewd mantle]

Fr fr I wonder what the emotes would be? Maybe the act of making food, or the reaction to trying the food

[lusty merlin]

I am starving for any snippet of elder content I’ll even take a mural😭

[vague glen]

an emote thats just pulling a snack out of ur pocket and eating it.. silly!

[halcyon wren]

Pizza dough toss

[brisk python]

mehk has the bigger bowl so it looks like they dont have as much ice cream as sah and they complain about it

[shrewd mantle]

You think that the ancestors would be like, “the dark creatures are totally edible” and the sky kids are like “plz no we’ll die”

[lusty merlin]

I feel like maybe one could be food related but the rest like can just be them showing their own personality, the food season is somthing that’s still a wip so I don’t have a solid idea yet

[shrewd mantle]

They would so fight over who gets the bigger bowl too. With the reason being more ice cream

[brisk python]

THEY WOULD
everyone is eating peacefully meanwhile sah and mehk are wrestling with each other in the background and are being ignored

[shrewd mantle]

We anticipate what you come up with

[vague glen]

i am no longer haunted... but now im gonna think about food related emotes... maybe a moving one where ur holding up a serving thing like a waiter?

[inland cliff]

Gratitude is actually by far the only season that doesn't evolve in any dark theory

[lusty merlin]

I think the very early seasons don’t either, a lot of them were just like “relive that spirit” until we got the quest storylines

[sharp lichen]

It’s just a theory, though

[shrewd mantle]

What would the items or cosmetics look like? Any ideas? I said chat items incorporating food. Chefs hat too

[halcyon wren]

Fancy waiter outfit for the fancy waiter walking emote

[lusty merlin]

Was phrased in a way that sounded like it was fact first glance to me, plus I already went on why I don’t see super early ideas/concepts that are used in some theory’s to really be that stable

[inland cliff]

maid outfit cooking arpon, bowl, pot and chef kiss emote

[shrewd mantle]

Lmao but a maid outfit… ✨✨

I wonder if any French influence could be incorporated into the hypothetical season

[half shadow]

Chef kiss emote would be incredible

[untold notch]

Gordon Ramsay call

[inland cliff]

hello donkeys

[shrewd mantle]

It be like “what are you!?”

[native galleon]

where’s the lamb sauce

[lusty merlin]

I feel like it just doesn’t have to be French influenced, I can imagine a wide range of foods and the character’s be inspired by different cultures worldwide

[half shadow]

food season would confirm ancestor mouths so i feel like the sky dev team wouldn’t go for it just because they love torturing us

[untold notch]

I forgot I'd just said the message I did and was very confused seeing this in chat

[keen shore]

did you guys know ancestor mouths are likely already confirmed

[untold notch]

is this because of the awowa cards

[lusty merlin]

Awowa

[native galleon]

pls 💀

[untold notch]

awowa with her gummy vitamin capes

[lusty merlin]

I remember the convo If that’s the case, it was because there seemed to be mouth outlines right?

[keen shore]

The next Abyss Spirit to introduce is the Anxious Angler, always proudly ensuring everyone has enough to eat.

[lusty merlin]

Ooo I see

[untold notch]

also slouch drinks dark water

[keen shore]

Ancestor mouths are probably real & they can BITE things with them

[untold notch]

oh so we've known this since lightseekers then

[lusty merlin]

Stealthy survivor about to bite the twins /ref (more of a context thing but still)

[vague glen]

in the valley elders case, they bite each other

[quick jasper]

[native galleon]

also, crab roasting pit exists?? why else would they be frying crabs in a pan over a fire

[lusty merlin]

Darkness curing, friendly crabs

[vague glen]

enrichment

[native galleon]

then how come when I light crabs on fire they just scream at me and attack

[half shadow]

omg where OH

[keen shore]

holds this up

[shrewd mantle]

Oop back to this theory lmao

[lusty merlin]

Maybe it had to be constant? Like if you try to light a crab the flame is tiny when the bonfire isint, plus isint getting all sides of the crab

[native galleon]

Lol should have put /hj or something

[inland cliff]

i actually miss the old stick 🍢🍡
also i just want to k have Anxious Angler ever cooked a krill before-

[shrewd mantle]

If this was canon. It’d be cool if TGC added a feature where skykids can temporarily make them friendly if they put them over a fire source

[native galleon]

I wish you could actually clean the darkness off the crabs by putting them in a (bigger) fire tho, it’s very easy to put them there and it wouldn’t have to be permanent

edit: same brain moment

[halcyon wren]

^great minds

[shrewd mantle]

Yea make them a pet and domesticate them even. Hehe cool little crab pet

[inland cliff]

[native galleon]

relevant pic from the other day

[shrewd mantle]

Beautiful

[inland cliff]

crab call spirit have left the chat

[keen shore]

I accidentally murdered a crab in front of them yesterday and I still haven’t forgiven myself

[shrewd mantle]

You should organize a funeral service

[inland cliff]

plot twist: the crab has photographic memory and is gathering their homies

[shrewd mantle]

Better run, Salem. Lmao

[untold notch]

nah that crab is super dead

[vague glen]

the crabs are unionizing

[shrewd mantle]

They’re comin for ya

[mossy verge]

Do you think the eden diamond will stop spewing rock rain when the sky kingdom is finally restored?

[frigid tinsel]

Crab Whisperer will remember this.

[pastel brook]

Did you know crabs are non-flammable?

[grim python]

i beg to differ

[spring python]

miles, 2 days

[untold notch]

is that post in #vault-of-socials consistent with the map shrines or are creative liberties being taken

[sturdy wyvern]

Let’s test that theory 🕯

[sharp lichen]

Mouths are bad, this is false

[sharp lichen]

Counterpoint: if Skykids can eat things without mouths, then so can Ancestors

[sharp lichen]

Yes, they even have the exact same Home mural on top

[sturdy wyvern]

Counterpoint to your counterpoint: Skykids can’t eat things. the only things we’ve seen them “eat” are dumplings and tea made out of pure light

[half shadow]

Yeah Skykids don’t seem to eat but rather. Absorb. they have to burn the dumplings to get the light which is what they actually intake

[sharp lichen]

So why can’t Spirits/ Ancestors do the same?

[cold sparrow]

skykids and ancestors confirmed to be ancient greek astomi

[pastel brook]

I hear you but..do you think it's true?!

[half shadow]

oh my god rooty that’s a deep pull

[untold notch]

sky Rome is REALLL

[slate saffron]

I demand a bronze age collapse allegory in my ThatGameCompany game & I demand it now

[untold notch]

you can always make one yourself

[frigid tinsel]

Hmmm munchin’

[low spindle]

Their jaws unhinge to just reveal 5 sets of teeth

[terse agate]

No because we need to clear the shard than meditate to get the wings light inside the diamond ... so i dont think they will remove it

[sterile orchid]

Given that everything is covered in a mask, and if it's actually not, it's very obviously simplified to fit the style of having a mask, I like to think that ancestors do actually have mouths it's just hard to see them

[spring python]

The arc crew was pretty worried about harvesting food and crops so I’m pretty sure they do eat

[untold notch]

see the existence of scarecrow farmer

[spring python]

The existence of tableware as well

Teabrewer confirms they also drink

[sharp lichen]

Yeah, but what is it that they eat?

Really only light creatures, like crabs and stuff

Since they can probably absorb light, they might use that to eat

[untold notch]

mushrooms, crops,

[spring python]

Presumably any sort of regular drink

[untold notch]

dink my oiter

[spring python]

I’d argue they eat meat as well but I’m sure the devs would avoid that topic like the plague when brought up in the writing room

[wild pasture]

Also, Granny obviously knows how to cook. If they didn't eat in a relatively mundane fashion, they wouldn't need to cook their food. Unlike us, absorbing the light from said "food".

So does the spirit at the Wasteland bonfire. Cooking crabs.

[untold notch]

the children hunger for flesh

[wild pasture]

I wouldn't even say it's an argument. Previous versions of the bonfire in wasteland had crabs roasting on a spit over fire. Now, it's a crab pot/stir-fry. Unless crabs aren't made of meat, then I think that pretty much confirms meat is in the diet of at least some ancestors.

[sharp lichen]

Meat of what? Light creatures? It’s still light

[cold sparrow]

I would say that the crab bonfire is up for argument. It seems to be implied that these crabs aren't for eating. These crabs are being purified of their darkness, by a spirit called pleaful parent who seems to be chasing after these crabs, e.g. being a parental figure not to an ancestor child, but these crabs.

[untold notch]

I have done no such thing this is slander

[cold sparrow]

to add onto that:

[untold notch]

I literally didn't even kill the crab that was Salem I'm not Salem

[shrewd mantle]

Well ignore me then imma just… it never happened…

[cold sparrow]

This has me thinking though.... If the Pleaful Parent - now long dead - has put the crabs above the bonfire.... have they been stuck up there for centuries?

[sterile orchid]

someone has to keep putting them back so maybe pleaful keeps descending from the stars and being like "oh no where's the crabs?? "

[wild pasture]

The fact that they keep ending up back in the pot fits the headcanon I've been working on for a while now...

[half shadow]

I guess the whole ancestors eating thing is based on how different you think the Ancestors are from the Skykids; like, if the Ancestors were somehow more “organic” than Skykids are, who we commonly theorize are more like stone/clay/light constructs brought to life versus a living and breathing being. Ancestors were either just like the Skykids in construction, similar to them in makeup but still more “mortal” somehow, or they were fully analogues with humans in terms of function and needs. granted this is exceptionally hard to pin down exactly due to how it’s a fantasy with magic and thus the Ancestors could have easily been more like constructs and still be able to eat and breathe and sleep just because “they’re magical beings” so I feel like we won’t really get a strict answer until we can actually see more of daily Ancestor life, which I think the animation project will be very helpful with

i’m personally a #MouthTruther, of the opinion that Ancestors are more similar to humans in their needs and functions, but since they seemingly came from the stars as well then they could still be less than completely organic. i don’t feel like this is really a super important part of Sky story wise so it makes sense we aren’t given a super clear answer

i remember i once drew a skykid that flipped their mask up to reveal their face was just a huge toothy mouth and i posted it in here a long while ago i should try and find it

I FOUND IT

this is kind of antithetical to my entire theory on Skykids not having mouth but Ancestors having them. but i still think Teethkid is important

[wild pasture]

That is... legitimately creepy.

[sterile orchid]

sky kids mimic ancestors in a lot of things and it seems that includes eating. i wonder if the masks came from sky kids mimicking ancestors too?

like, obviously we start with a mask in game, and we have to "mimic" the maskless style to see a skid without one, but that doesn't mean the first skids had masks right after being born

[wild pasture]

I'd rather start with a mask than wake up to my Skykid having a face that is literally a pitch black void of nothingness... I don't need the abyss literally staring back at me.

[floral skiff]

Are dark dragons organic?

[cold sparrow]

your guess is as good as ours

[floral skiff]

I don't have a guess

[cold sparrow]

it's questionable what really consitutes as 'organic' in the world of sky.. this world doesn't really seem to have living beings made of flesh and blood like in our world. rather, creatures seem to be made of pure light, with some hardened elements resembling rock or crystal or clay (perhaps just more 'solid' manifestations of light)

to add on to that, according to some old concept light creatures only leave behind a skeleton when they die an unnatural death (questionable if that is still true for the current lore, but it was a considering during the development process at the very least, and the fact that we only really see skeletons of massive creatures in Forest and Wasteland supports this idea.. but it's probably a thing the devs don't want to go into detail too much in this otherwise child-friendly game); otherwise, light creatures seem to just return to the light as a whole

all we know about krill is that they're 'corrupted' - what they originally were, if anything, we don't know
it might be though that they now are largely compromised of darkness, much like mantas and whales are largely compromised of light

tl;dr: we just don't know really

[frigid tinsel]

Sky biology is a struggling field

[sly lake]

Maybe they are like cats seeking out a warm spot, but then get stuck. We do see crabs climb sometimes, so I could imagine them climbing up the sticks holding the pot.

[cold sparrow]

oh that's adorable

[sharp lichen]

All Sky sciences are

[cold sparrow]

petition to name sky biology 'luminology'

[rigid iron]

I believe the unnatural death tidbit might still be canon. Ash has said before that the graveyard bones are significant in some way, so it might be to highlight that something unnatural occurred to the creatures there

[sharp lichen]

Isn’t the study of light called “optics”? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optics

[cold sparrow]

would love to see that supported elsewhere in the game
when the krill in the temple in GW's wasteland kills the manta, for example
but again, I understand that might have been ruled either impractical or too grim for a game designed to be family/child-friendly

[tepid veldt]

luminology: the study of blorbos

[inner basalt]

i just realized, we can hear.. eerie sounds in the bloom tree
which is creepy but that’s okay because its sky

[cold sparrow]

optics is derived from the word 'seen'
which makes sense for our world, as light largely affects what we see
but in the sky world, light obviously has more of a fundamental role

[sharp lichen]

Interesting

Sky biology: Chaos

Sky meteorology: 4 years of unending pain about rain

Sky chemistry: ????????

Sky physics: Dead and I killed it

[untold notch]

sky chemistry: my domain

at least i pretend it is i dont know a whole lot

[tepid veldt]

sky queers: the only class in session

[cold sparrow]

but if everyone is queer, is anyone really queer

[half shadow]

the way to do sky biology is to accept that there’s nothing in the world that operates like irl biology and it’s basically just magical evolution in terms of creatures imo

[rigid iron]

The only way I can do sky biology is by having a little fun with it, anything serious will make you go insane

[sterile orchid]

i've never really questioned how darkness works i just know it exists and it's bad for you i'm just burning it to help the blorbos

[rigid iron]

Sky biology is going into sky wiki and going "mmm ✨no✨" when they call something a manta that very clearly isn't

[sterile orchid]

like what?

[rigid iron]

I choose to believe the concept art of this doesn't exist, it makes me much happier

[sly lake]

Centipede Manta more like.

[sterile orchid]

it does share quite a few similarities with mantas though. i know every light creature has white bodies with gold accents but it doesn't look much like anything else

[sly lake]

It's a peculiar beast! It has the general body shape and rock face of the whales, but the colorization, tail shape, and flaps of a manta.

Convergent evolution?

Wasn't there another piece of concept art that showed butterflies evolving into mantas, which later evolved into whales?

Perhaps Sky biology is like Digimon.

[rigid iron]

Don't even get me started on how the thing everyone calls a whale looks like a fish

[sterile orchid]

we call them whales because that's what the game calls them, it's not our fault

[keen shore]

Would it help if I told you to imagine it like a bunch of mantas copypasted into a line? That’s all I can see when I look at them

[sly lake]

Actually, this does make me think. If creatures in Sky evolve from one simpler form to another more complex form, I wonder what could trigger it?
Simply more light, or growing in age? Or perhaps reincarnation cycles?
Or maybe instead of growing due to years passed, they age more in memories gathered. A manta who has has more unique experiences perhaps could be technically older than another manta who outranks them in standard years.

[sterile orchid]

i also want to mention since we're on the topic of mantas

the big ones in sanctuary are different from every other large manta

[sly lake]

I'm intrigued by the idea of aging due to mental memories versus the passing of time..I could see this applying to Skykids as well.

Could be a in-game way of explaining how much older some "younger" skykids feel who play more versus "older" veterans who haven't played as much. Does that make sense?

[rigid iron]

Well the game is wrong, this is a fish

[sly lake]

And perhaps if you or a creature loses memories, you regress in age. And it then reflects in the form you/the creature takes. Manta-> butterfly. Etcetera!

(Memories could be lost due to injury or perhaps deposited due to reincarnation)

[rigid iron]

They're gonna put me in a padded cell with this taped on the wall

[sterile orchid]

oh hey look it's me! i started in Flight but i know just about as much about the game as someone who started in Aurora

[sly lake]

Don't they know you have a Sky PHD?!

[keen shore]

This is probably on purpose; Sanctuary seems to be one of the most ecologically diverse places in Sky. I would guess its name means it’s the ancestor version of a wildlife sanctuary.
Unfortunately, that unusual diversity shows how much of Sky’s ecosystem was wiped out or altered in the disaster.

[sterile orchid]

i do wonder if the "pygmy"/baby mantas in sanctuary are what all baby mantas look like or if they're specifically the babies of the sanctuary sub-species

we may never know like, ever either and it makes me sad because they're adorable and i want to see more of them

[rigid iron]

Give me a minute I'm trying to find a sarcopterygian that looks most like a sky "whale"

[wild pasture]

Those names given bug the heck out of me...

Mono - 2
Quad - 4
Hex - 6

🎵One of these isn't like the others~🎵

[sterile orchid]

"mono wing" mantas have one wing set but the other ones are talking about the wings as a total so yeah that's confusing

it would be very cool to see the hex wing mantas though i definitely just want more mantas

[wild pasture]

Yeah, that's what I mean. MonoWing implies one pair, but the rest refer directly to the number of wings. It should have been Mono, Bi/Duo, Tri or Bi/Duo, Quad, Hex. My mind likes patterns, and that is a pattern break. Mind no like. 😑

[sharp lichen]

This is unfortunately not a rare occurrence in Sky

[sterile orchid]

also elder manta is gigantic in that concept art, no matter what the size of the actual manta is they look like babies

back to my daily "watch the spirits all day" routine: AND twirling champion is now at the forest location! what shenanigans will they get into?

[pastel brook]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/593565781166391316/832872714967842826/Untitled90_20210416150354.png

[pastel brook]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/593565781166391316/832872714967842826/Untitled90_20210416150354.png

[rigid iron]

Ok I'm back, it's not a whole lot like one thing or another but it's some kind of lobe-finned armored fish if I had to classify it. Compared it to a Coelacanth for fun very much the fish of all time

[half shadow]

THIS IS WHAT IM TALKIN ABOUT!!!

[pastel brook]

hey, hey! I have a theory!

[half shadow]

yeah buddy?

[wild pasture]

So do we all, SproutBot! That's... why we're here.

[pastel brook]

What causes islands and creatures to float?

[rigid iron]

That's new

[cold sparrow]

that's because light is light
get it?

[rigid iron]

What are you cooking over there 🤨

[pastel brook]

Whoa...my AI mind is blown!

[sharp lichen]

Creatures float naturally, islands float either using darkstone or Cyan Light

[uncut pond]

I think some islands float naturally too

[sharp lichen]

let me think

[keen shore]

Very many in fact

[sharp lichen]

Wind Paths, Sanctuary Islands, all of Valley basically, and Vault have floating stuff

Vault we can just say Vault magic and ignore it

Valley we see a mix: part stones that probably levitate, and part cyan light in the Prophecy murals

Wind Paths is probably natural-ish, but given that the clouds used to be water, they could've been just watery islands

Sanctuary is interesting because we see the Sanctuary Guide using Cyan Light: the same exact light used to make the islands float. It may be a coincidence, but it may not be

[keen shore]

90% of prairie has floating islands also

[wild pasture]

Are we sure 90% of it is islands and not just mountain tops wreathed in clouds?

That's what I thought they were until I found Bird Nest a week after finishing Prairie the first time.
(I feel I should clarify, I'm not questioning you, I'm making fun of myself)

[sharp lichen]

oh right completely forgot about birds nest

[uncut pond]

I was about to say just that, prairie has probably the most floating islands

Prairie to me is kind of a special realm in the sense that it is, at least in my personal opinion, the only realm in the game that really feels like a kingdom built in the sky.

In most other realms, the clouds feel more like a dense fog that surrounds otherwise normal environments. But prairie is different because the clouds actually feel like a proper part of the environment, and the solid ground feels like it integrates seamlessly, creating a sense that this really is a realm high in the sky, built in the clouds (plus there's also proper houses that looks like places where people could live, which isn't so common)

Idk it's really hard to put into words but prairie feels very different from the rest of the game and it's not because of the grass and the upbeat tone and colors

[brisk python]

all of the islands float because of sunset vermillionite smh /j

[fickle snow]

Wgat

[brisk python]

a very specific group of people will get my reference cnzncnd

[sterile orchid]

i am one of those people

[rigid iron]

Genshin players 🫵

[brisk python]

YES

[sterile orchid]

i had to look it up to remember bc it's been so long since i played but it wasn't hard to find

[brisk python]

well i had my (un)funny moment here time to sneep

[pastel brook]

Whoa...my AI mind is blown!

Does your Skykid have a talent?

[frigid tinsel]

screwing around and finding out

[south saddle]

my main skykid oc is good at sword fighting????? if that even counts as a talent??

[wild pasture]

I'd say that counts. Nothing is 100% talent. Work is always involved to improve upon talent, even if there is an innate talent that starts the journey.

[sterile orchid]

i can't really think of anything that would be considered a "talent" besides Altair being able to talk to mantas

[wanton ivy]

i havent caught up with the quests for that season yet, that thing scares me speaking of, what's the lore behind it? (i heard it's some kind of krill..king or smthn??)

[frigid tinsel]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Also don’t ping me

[wanton ivy]

OHH sorry sorry

[sterile orchid]

probably just corrupted like the krill but it's often referred to as "king krill" since it has all the same kind of characteristics of them (solid black body, red eyes when targetting, insatiable hunger for light etc.)

[wanton ivy]

what's the whole thing behind the corruption? (how did it start/were the ancestors responsible for it and so on)

[sterile orchid]

that's what we try to figure out on a semi-daily basis

[wanton ivy]

hoping tgc finally brings it up properly in future seasons atp

[halcyon hull]

I have a theory
Idk if frozen time is exactly canon like time of day doesn't change but i'm not sure
But if it is then islands floating because something pushed them up and Islands froze

[lusty merlin]

If I remember right, the earth trail showed floating islands, aswell as allowing floating rocks too! And in the prophecy mural Prairie elder does receive the green light (light from the earth trail). So it could definitely be possible that Prairie used the green light magic to bring the islands up. Would also explain how windpaths is elevated since Flight Guide is canonically Prairie elders apprentice, and thus would’ve definitely have been taught green magic as per apprentice thing.

Yes we don’t exactly know for sure what they were an apprentice for, but if you are an apprentice to an elder then I can only assume they could be acting elders in a way maybe, fun to think about

[sterile orchid]

i do wonder if being the apprentice of an elder means "if anything happens you take over"

[lusty merlin]

That’s what I was wondering too! Like acting elder would make the most sense

Guess that didn’t work out though

[sterile orchid]

thinking about the elders having apprentices makes me think of how valley elders would choose one. isn't that every one of my elder thoughts though

[lusty merlin]

Unless maybe? If you concider flight guide being well, a guide. Since guides almost always stay behind when the rest of the spieits from a season ascend. And that the guides would do their own thing than standing in one place, (im thinking outside of game mechanics) so maybe they can act as acting elders in a way. Yea the kingdom is utterly destroyed but they can improve it the best they can, windpaths and performance final quest is a great example or ancestor’s coming together either throughout or at the end of the season

[lusty merlin]

Id imagine they could have their own apprentice, two for two

I’d love to know why and how an apprentice is picked just god

[sterile orchid]

SAME it sounds so cool!!

TGC please give us more elder lore pls

[floral skiff]

juvenile elders

I would appreciate being an apprentice for the elder of the isles

[vocal forge]

people watching time everyone does a little dance. scholar looks at a butterfly and offers something to it? then he giggles. he dies praise to it he looks at enchantment guide, has an idea, an dcreeps closer. hes tiptoeing. he falls on his back on the grass. ENCHANTMENT GUIDE LAUGHS? he dusts himself off. scholar kneels to himand does a little hello. guide does it back. he walks off.. hes marching. then he starts walking once hes far enough. he looks at the entrance to flight behind them, and does a spell. he walks back to the tent. he looks at the sky.he looks around and points, then does an affectionate motion. i think hes pleased.

CYCLE OVERSERVATION TWO

twirl is having some good character development. im so proud of him for learning.

OK I GOT TWIRLS ENTIRE CYCLE

twilr watches piggyback do the ritual, nodding and clapping. he doees a strong pose. then he tries to copy piggyback. it doesnt work and he has a breakdown. he thinks. he looks at a patch of grass. he nods. he does a little dance. then he shrugs. he stands on the patch of grass, breathes in. breathes out. then he revs himself up for the task. he does a no notion. then he juggles. then he does a no symbol. i believe he's trying out things. he blows a bubble. still no dice. he does a spell. nothing. he facepalms. he falls on the ground and has a tantrum.

he looks at his friends in the tent. scholar nods at him. piggyback walks out, and twirl sits down. he does the ritual, breathing in, and out. twirl watches carefully... piggyback does the up symbol, and twirl watches the lights. he claps as piggyback does the finishing pose. he watches piggyback walk back, bowing to him and nodding. he walks over, wiping sweat from his brow, dusting himself off. then he does a little pose, and stands on the patch of grass. he breathes in. he sneezes. he does the no symbol. he does the pleading motion. then he seems forlorn. he gets angry. he throws antoehr tantrum. he walks over to another patch of grass and ponders.then has a bright idea. he steps on the grass. breathes in. he does a little spin on the grass. then he faints cus he span too much. hes watching scholar then he looks over at piggyback.

piggyback looks at him before doing the glass replenish. twirl seems desperate to know. piggyback looks t him, and then in sync, they mimic the motions. piggyback goes back to the tent. twirl watches scholar, breathing in. and out.

then he does a little twirl, and there's magic. he seems shocked. he looksaround. then he does the twirl again. he seems even more shocked, and starts having a breakdown before he celebrates and jumpes so high he collapses. he starts laughing, overjoyed. he does a twirl again. he starts laughing maniacally before he has a breakdown and scolds himself. he calms himself down, breathing in. then does a twirl and falls flat on his back. he dusts himself off. and nods. he does a twirl again. he looks around. then he faints. he gets up. hes watching scholar and the guide. he sits down for a sec before walking a bit back. piggyback comes out. together they breathe in deep. the ground shimmers. then they both do the motion in sync, and the grass patch glows more. then they do the finishing pose together. twirl nods, piggyback goes back to the tent. he sits down, head on his knees to ponder.

HE HAD CHARACTER ARC

[vocal forge]

Who made this?

[sharp lichen]

Air trial also shows floating islands, in the murals we see not only Valley Elders using cyan light, but the cyan light being used to float platforms.

[west fossil]

There has always been a question that has bugged me about sky: Why do we take the journey route we do? It isn't a straight direction towards the goal, and places like the isles seem to be able to cut across from isles straight to wasteland, or maybe even valley to eden. (can you @ me btw please if you reply as I won't be keeping an eye on this channel)

[vocal forge]

We are merely following the light. Sure we could turn away from it, but our sky child naturally follows it and is drawn to eden via it. Dependin on where we were, the light changes lsightly, and we redirect towards it. I'm not sure how you reached the conclusion that isles connected to wasteland and valley to eden.

[west fossil]

not really its just distance. The distance from isles to wasteland is really close on the map

[vocal forge]

Because theres.. a lot of clouds?

Also the map isn't really an accurate coverage. it's more aesthetic prposeful

[west fossil]

its more just a thought tho tbh

[static zephyr]

The map was made for the moths to help them find spirits and winged light that’s my guess

[nova nest]

sry to jut in but is there anyway to learn the lore of sky? like a good video that explains some of it? it seems so obscure ;-;

[static zephyr]

That’s what I’m here for
Just ask away (:
I’ll try to answer to the best of my ability

[untold notch]

there are a few resources like a doc but that mostly covers beginner stuff iirc because this is an Unconventional Game™️

[static zephyr]

I feel like the lore is just there for the lore hunters

[sharp lichen]

The problem with Isle-Wasteland is that, using this map, there is presumably a large ocean. Lore wise it would be difficult to cross, and gameplay wise it would be boring.

And have you seen how steep Eden is? Vault is the only practical way to enter it

[sharp lichen]

Yea, there is! https://docs.google.com/document/d/12XSkaMV_5UYG-an_Qo37ItyKP6GaqBBA6iRqBVE2qck/edit

[sharp lichen]

I mean, Isle and Wasteland still seem close, since they seem to be connected by the same ocean

It would still be brutally hard to swim across though

[sharp lichen]

Maybe, but the lore also enhances your understanding of other parts of the game

[nova nest]

thank you so much!!

[static zephyr]

Touché

[static zephyr]

what do you think happened to all the other sky kids who turned into stone did the fall into the same void we did or did they just go into a suspended state of mind?

[native galleon]

yeah i’ve seen the water by shipwreck…i’ll pass

[static zephyr]

Yaaaa…. That’s krill territory.

[native galleon]

it’s also super polluted and would probably kill you if you swam in it for a while