#eden-spoilers
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I don’t know if I did it right or not haha
I kept insisting to restart Eden again because I was horrified my winged light was gone.
You went all the way through the big door of light, right?
It was me and 2 others and we played it really safe but in the last part of it when the lava rocks were raining down constantly that’s where we all died
LOL it is hard to let go when you've spent so long gathering the light.
Yep did the whole flying through space thing
Haha ally, I’ve seen a few people do that. We were all on this channel like “no! Keep goooooing you can doooo it!”
Made it all the way back to home. I even recorded my last few moments before we died
I recommend spending as many ascended candles as you can before rebirth so you get wing buffs before you’re reborn and land back in Home
Yeah, makes it worthwhile then
Yes! I didn’t realize at first to use the winged light for the spirits.
You mean when you gift the light to the other dead people there?
No after before you are reborn
You gift winged light to the statues, yeah. But afterwards you ascend the emote spirits by spending the special eden candles
How do you do that?
Before the big glowing door, there’s a spot where you can view the constellations
Ohhhhh
And spend hearts/candles/etc
You can ascend spirits from the Home area, too, but you won’t get the wing buffs until you go through orbit again
It’s your first run, mistakes happen.
Ya
You can get like 15.75 eden candles each week by giving light to all the statues
Does the amount of light you have affect Eden?
You can go through eden as many times as you like to collect all of them. The statues reset every Sunday at 12am (game time)
The amount of winged light you have just affects how much you have to work with in the storm area
The more winged light you have, the more you can give to the statues (and have knocked out of you by the angry rocks)
But don’t you lose all of it anyways?
Oh wait I remember getting it back
There was so much to take in, I still haven’t had time to look back and reflect haha
Yep! But when you get wing buffs for ascending spirits, then you start out with some winged light when you’re reborn. I start out with six wedges now
There really is a lot!
Here’s me ignoring the spirits
Okay so starting over, what should I do from now to reap the most out of eden
There’s nothing that explicitly tells you about the wing buff mechanics before you get there, so it’s easy to miss
Just play through all the worlds again, collecting as much winged light as possible, and then how should I do eden differently
Basically just get all the statues every week, and spend ascended candles before you leave orbit.
Nah. There are maps of the statue locations if you really want to try and streamline the process, but there aren’t any big secrets. Just run around and sacrifice a bunch of light until you die.
And enjoy the pretty scenery
I think I sacrificed about 5, then decided not to do any more cuz I thought the point was to not die
Oh! You can get extra (normal) candle wax in orbit by flying into the emote spirits and the friends that appear in the “chorus of angels” type scene
I wish I could go through it all again tonight but I gotta go to bed soon
Feel free to message me if you ever want help gathering stars. I go through eden a lot so I usually need to do star runs
I’m always down for extra eden runs, too.
Alright thanks
I only died twice. Too afraid to die again in eden
don’t want to loose my wings and start again
Btw Played for one month
Btw how do I add other friend’s account ?
If let’s say I wish to add u Panda?
Ok so when you spend ascended candles to ascend the emote spirits, you get permanent wing buffs when you leave eden for rebirth
wait I’ve been through eden and got the auto death thing , but you can actually die trying to finish eden?
U die and reborn
@gilded aurora you open up the main menu, click Invite, and then share/copy the qr code link with your friend
First time finishing Eden with a friend. A friend I made in Eden and we helped each other. So wholesome 😭
But I heard that u got to unlock as many wing buffs as possible so u won’t loose those wing levels after death
Congrats Skyhorse
you get wing buffs by using ascended candles on spirits?
Thank you!
Stay there as long as u like with your new friends. It’s marvelous and peaceful there
Climb the star stairs
Lol Panda is making my itchy to go eden.
Yep! The spirits you ascend gift you wing buffs as you exit orbit to be reborn
I haven’t gone fully for two weeks
@mild gust is it cool if I add you?
Only went in to collect candles
My ascend candle only 70%, can’t even unlock one buff
What do the wing buffs do?
They let you flap your wings multiple times
Say you have 5, you can flap 5 times before you have to recharge
But those are permanent after eden?
So if you go all the way back through you won’t start over with one?
wing buffs are what the community calls the locks with wings on the spirits’ trees. they are “permanent” stars that you get right after you finish eden
(“permanent” because while you get them, you can lose them if, say, you go into wasteland first thing and get krilled)
True
they are sort of a reward for going through eden! so each rebirth you get to start off with more and more cape wedges (the stars at the back of your cape that indicate how many times you can flap your wings)
What a rush
But when you go through Eden again after losing them you’ll get them back
There is a route to bypass one of the krill actually
i’ve somehow gotten pretty good at avoiding those shrimp 😂 takes patience tho and after having a lot of stars you end up just not even minding being krill bait for newer players
Just fly right and walk by the big pipes
shrimps?! Lol. It’s maybe half shrimp and coackroach
I always wonder where did that big fish that dives in the sky of wasteland portal
Where did it go
Is Krill just a fan name?
the coelacanth? you see it in orbit again, actually!
I haven’t seen the name anywhere in the game so far
i raced it last time lol
Aw that looks like cocoon
yeah! they got called krill by the community at first bc of how similar they look to the actual creature, but the game calls them “dark dragons”
Any reward if u fly pass it
nah, just a fun game to play in orbit 😂
there is currently no way to link any account other than game center
Oh
Ok. Cos I’m using iPad to play. And discord is on my mobile
Guess I have to install discord there as well to share the QR code
You could text yourself the code, then copy paste in discord
Installing discord would probably be easier, though
At least you've the game... Android user cries
I feel the krill is the dev going “heh what a cool dragon I made”
And everyone else is like “it’s an oversized shrimp what are you talking about”
And the devs are just all

face the DARK DRAGON
Well they are sure dark and scary. Shrimps are not scary D:
Depends how close you get
Imagine a shrimp the size of a human 😮
Got this screenshot tonight, one of my favorites from the game so far
my two experiences with eden last night xD
A little over 16 candles weee
With the help of my friends finally met my favorite elders 💙 So happy^^
congrats! finishing those constellations is 
I never noticed this before o:
when you have no more statues to light and just have to wait for inevitable death
wow, I'm well jelly, love those twins!
table for two
romatic view
krill flying through
Okay mechanics in eden are screwing me over wtf
It's like I'm getting stuck on everything and can't move
@soft valve don’t jump, try just walking and it doesn’t knock you over that much
A friend told me this and it was really helpful
Getting stuck?
What are you getting stuck on?
Literally just flat ground, it's like my feet were stuck in one place but I could rotate. I was just walking up to get past the one krill and I got stuck, so rocks hit me. And when I had no flame I got stuck again and couldn't move to get my wing piece, and then got hit again.
walking feels like it takes to long. i only got knocked over because i was screenrecording
It's hard to describe, it was just not normal sort of "stuck in a corner" kind of thing. I don't know if I'm lagging or what but the rest of the game seems fine
Oof
pays respect
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i just reached the point where i can go to eden back to back because i have enough ascended candles
@crisp pagoda you may report that to #report-a-live-bug
Okay thanks!
whoever just said that dm 😭
Oopsie
Lol,you need friends to recharge your light
ah
Yeah I just fell cause I’m a loner 😢
I’m so glad I got the needed candles to ascend all the forest spirits
One step closer to that elder hair🤤
Eden hates me today omg
I want the anime hair
In valley of Triumph
I’m so sorry your game is being like this
yeah i died so fast in eden today... hitting that area where theres NOWHERE to hide behind is so ruthless
Can this pic of ||Oreo|| cheer you up then?
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THE POWER OF ||OREO’S CUTENESS|| SAVED YOU🤯
debating whether i should go collect stars or just head right back into eden
You should wait until reset if you want anything out of Eden
an eden question:
i want to help a friend through eden and help light up statues etc. but since i've just done eden, i don't want to respawn with one wing.
am i able to guide my friend through the final phase of eden without getting stuck (no warp home)
well i havent lit all the statues yet
You will be locked into eden if you enter the hail area
The pop rocks rain
Yes
POP ROCKS RAIN
Just exit in the Star hallway thing
Well don’t use your mouth out
Got like 10-11 candles this run, yay! Close to unlocking all wasteland. I'm coming Eder hair!
@nova linden to not get locked into eden you need to warp home before you enter the room with the statues/red rain. so, right at the last star in the hallway basically, otherwise you’re stuck there until you finish it 😅
lesson learned, thank you
About to enter eden... I really don’t wanna lose all my wing points lol
I’m scared how do I be prepared?
HAVE U NEVER BEEN
OMG UR BABY
I AM
hmm i dont want to spoil it for you...
yes!
pls pray for me lo
i think it will be a more enjoyable experience if you dont know what happens
I just came here and huh....
man it was so worth going into eden blind
i found out what happens in eden before i went because of google, i wish i had gone in blind
I tried doing my first Eden run blind but I consulted a guide for tips on avoiding flying rocks and krill after getting knocked down too much 😔
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the krill have never been a problem for me, their pattern is too easy
other than the last one before the tunnel
I still haven't figured out that one either 😂😂
I'm getting slightly better with timings but the rocks and open space make me panic
That one isn’t too hard. You just have to wait for the rock wind and the krill light to line up right
i just kinda run and pray
Ditto
Try waiting. For me it’s like the 3rd or 4th pass usually
It probably didn't help that I was hopping last time
No that doesnt help 
Oh I actually have a consistent way of getting past that one
getting that one child of light at the end and ur blood just rushes with adrenaline because you dont know how close the krill is >>>>
So you know how there’s a little gate thing right before the final stretch to the tunnel
You wanna stand behind one of the broken pillars after that
When the krill goes right run up to the next checkpoint
That’s where I wait for the right timing
You’ll have enough time to go to the tunnel AND get the star without being spotted
But gotta line up the rock wind with the krill passing
I'll keep that in mind for the next Eden ^^
my favorite thing to do in eden is the most trivial stuff like placing down tables or playing piano as the pop rock rain pelts down
THEY WERE TYPING T_T
Lol I know that
but ur right it does look like that
SJSDJDJJDD
Wow how mean sndndk
I lovr this game
i was trying to find sky memes im so glad we have a channel
its such a niche thing to look up on google it doesnt WORK
Actually do you have any tips when you're walking on the beam inside the broken tower?
I noticed a friend waiting for a certain moment for the krill when they were giving me an Uber ride
where are you
Anyone wanna do Eden with me?
doing the stanky leg 😔
(got ALL statues that run! That was close, had 3 stars left!)
wait how many statues are there in total in eden
64?
and how many star kids are there in total
not sure but ascended candles help
A KRILL WENT THROUGH THE WEIRD HAT BUILDING IN EDEN
And that’s never happened to me before!?!
hes evolving
;-;
Wish I had a video
I’ve gotten 40 star kids before
Just for perspective
Wait
Are you talking about dead people
Or stars?
ah
Tried to time the camera shift earlier and matched the center glow
Wished I could center the screen xD
You look like an octopus
Hey guys how can you turn off the continuous rain
I know there's a way but I don't know how
That's a bug and has already been fixed
it’s been fixed?
Yes it has
ah gotcha
Those crabs took two wings from me! Horrible! You cannot trust anyone in Eden.
crab thief
crabs in Eden?
i know theres some in one of the pipes
you used to be able to turn off the rain... that sounds so nice...
i got stuck in an eden oob with a good group ;-;-;;-;-
Awww that sucks :(
Am I the only one that thinks that going to Eden alone is better?
I haven’t been with anyone yet and I think I prefer it that way. You’re only responsible for your own safety then. 👍
^ yes. “you’re only responsible for your own safety”
I went with a friend my first few times until I learned where everything was. Now i do best alone. Its faster and there isn’t anyone slowing you down. I get so much more candles going solo
I can do all 63 statues in 1 Eden run while going solo, but I find it much more fufilling and overall enjoyable when doing it with others, while doing a solo feels almost like a chore. ^^;
Did the glitch got fixed?
Me and my sister tried to do it but it didn’t work
Yea before the update
I appreciate it
Fixed lol
If you go with a group of friends to eden, you can recharge each other with full calls while moving as a group. Hard to lose many lights to the rain if the group has good timing and enough people
You can get all 63 statues in 1 go that way without using any bugs
if only the eden candles can be traded for hearts
Perhaps one day. 😦
Is it weird I get a urge to run Eden again even though I literally ran it just 1-2 days ago?
@outer oyster I have the same urge 🙂
I only have like 41 stars
Tbh I think part of it was that I manged to solo it so I feel more confident
I reached the end of the 2nd part :D
good for you :3
Since game went live, I've been on a sharing spree of 💛 with friends. Non-stop for about a whole season. This was possible by spending and sharing everything spent on Friends. Friends i got here on Discord. Friends i’ve helped on eden. Friends i play with everyday since day 1. THIS IS A SPOILER WARNING ⭐️ ENDGAME CONTENT * Do not open if you care about The Elders and Elder Collectibles* Thanks to all the friends who made it also possible ✨
no one told me the coolest part of eden was death... ??? It’s so pretty what
what happens if i went to Eden just now and do not want to continue? And in less than 24hrs reset comes.
you could explore the area around eden.
have you found the shortcut in the busted pipe yet?
what about the hole you can't fall into?
There’s a shortcut?? Also, I’m trying to get the elders from the Valley- do I just keep unlocking all the spirit’s stuff in that constellation?
You can go up the vertical pipe with a hole in it and skip the safe room area
short eden quote:
"once the storm is over you won’t remember how you made it through, how you managed to survive. You won’t even be sure, in fact, whether the storm is really over. But one thing is certain. When you come out of the storm you won’t be the same person who walked in. " - Haruki Murakami
“when you come out the storm you won’t be the same person who walked in”
(me hoping i’ll be taller this time)
longer quote:
part 1:
Sometimes fate is like a small sandstorm that keeps changing directions. You change direction but the sandstorm chases you. You turn again, but the storm adjusts. Over and over you play this out, like some ominous dance with death just before dawn. Why? Because this storm isn’t something that blew in from far away, something that has nothing to do with you. This storm is you. Something inside of you. So all you can do is give in to it, step right inside the storm, closing your eyes and plugging up your ears so the sand doesn’t get in, and walk through it, step by step. There’s no sun there, no moon, no direction, no sense of time. Just fine white sand swirling up into the sky like pulverized bones. That’s the kind of sandstorm you need to imagine.
part 2:
An you really will have to make it through that violent, metaphysical, symbolic storm. No matter how metaphysical or symbolic it might be, make no mistake about it: it will cut through flesh like a thousand razor blades. People will bleed there, and you will bleed too. Hot, red blood. You’ll catch that blood in your hands, your own blood and the blood of others.
and the shortened version is part 3
oOOOHHH
was just now hanging out with a person in eden, never got their name, etc. but hopefully showed them a nice shortcut with the vertical pipe, also thanks for the table at the part where jumping is difficult
with the shortcut, to you just fly up the pipe ?
it's kinda "mileage may vary"
I've seen people use it to get to the top pipe,
seen people use it to get to the broken pipe safe room easier
I'm thinking of, once I get the table (since its 100% likely to get stuck in pipe)
to use the table as a way to climb up the area and go around obstacles
ahh
i started cutting over to the pipes that lead to the safe room, dunno how much time it saved but i recorded a climb that took 7-ish minutes
i feel like it should not be THIS. IMPOSSIBLE. to get to two. statues
its so frustrating
Jumping makes you fall more
I'll bang pots and pans calling out not to jump in the storm everyday
@restive dust it depends on if there are other people or not. If you have the energy to go up and over, vs making it just to the safe room. If you don't have much energy, at lest making it to safety is 100% AOK
about the pipe thing
for crazy antics, maybe not. good use for antigrav spell though to be safe
(around the pipes)
ah alright 👌
I have 97 wingpower and even I get stuck sometimes while exploring
wish we could flag little places so they could put little torches there
at least definitely in eden would be great
you guys know the big table in the vault OR the catapult
maybe on the mountain, places for people to use candles for other people to use
(how do the server even know if its used up after you leave an area?)
or do the candles just kinda wasted at that point?
There’s a catapult?
in the wasteland
There is, and I never felt safe enough to use it. It’s in the graveyard area in wasteland
you have to use a candle to repair/use it
as long as you have enough wedges and time it right, you can use it to great benefit
I've used it to launch my friends and both times I lose wings
I never knew there was a catapult... which section is it in in wasteland?
Graveyard, where the 3 krill are
I would love to have little jars people can put candles it to recharge in places people get stuck easily
would probably have to test areas to find out where the best place to put them would be
I can think of at least 3
That’s a great idea though I think it’s really intended to play eden with other people and recharge off each other
sometimes people get swapped out of servers and you wind up stuck with no power to even jump your way out
- the mountains to the left of the watery krill area. the slopes are so steep, if you don't have enough power there's 0 way out.
- at the bottom of the pipes
- inside the broken vertical pipe (another 'no way to jump out if stuck' spot)
After playing eden a couple times it’s not that bad honestly even solo (it’s actually faster). And you can always warp home and return recharged
I dont like warping home from eden (the first part)
I never know where it will put me
don't like having to run through krill and rocks all over again
In any case a few more light spots aren’t a bad idea just not a priority I believe
there are a few spots NOT in eden that could also benefit
behind the flying race entrance in the mountain
below the prairie, below the wasteland
Wasteland would benefit from extra wax to collect honestly... For the trouble you're going through it's not nearly enough when you can breeze through 2 races for 2 candles
I can climb up the mountain and fall into the sea of toxic water
which is in general not good
when y have to get that one statue you missed
For eden do you just fill as many statues as you can in a single run? Or do the statues you already filled in that week carry over to another run in the same week?
the statues carry over until they reset on midnight saturday/sunday
Not sure if this has been posted before (probably has by now) but does it look familiar to anyone with knowledge of earlier versions of the game? Any light to shed?
Context shot.
you ever notice that the elder spirits basically made a black hole
white hole/ wormhole
Oh @outer oyster I think (but don’t quite quote me on it) that might be a carryover from the earliest betas of Eden when ||if you made through that door you’d survive||
Did the ratio of Fallen to Ascended Candles change in this update? I had 7 Fallen and made almost exactly just 1 Ascended Candle rather than nearly 2. I'm fine with it, but I'd like to know if I should follow up, I mean I've had multiple instances of having more than 1 regular candle accumulated and when I accept it the animation shows multiple candles but only 1 got added to my total (I haven't bothered filing a bug because I have no idea of any specifics to describe when it happens).
isn’t it 4 children = 1 candle?
4:1's what it's been, as far as I've seen people report here (I've never tracked mine closely enough to confirm for myself). So 7:1 would be a change, if that's actually what it used to be. As I said, I'm fine with it. As long as the full player base stays in sync I honestly don't really mind, and I have no interest in debating that point.
I ran Eden a bit ago today; I may be among the 1st to do so since the update if it hit later this week than most of the folks who like to run Eden twice for the week ASAP since last Sunday.
What is the safe zone? I just did an Eden Run and it didn’t work
thats about a bug, most people said it's been fixed recently
are are a few spirits that look blue when I first enter eden but I'm like 100% sure I've gotten them all
@restive dust I used it this week, so idk. Well have to try it after the reset.
since the update?
I went into eden tonight, but didn't try the glitch since I had gotten like 10th wedge
and was only going for 2-3 statues
hmm
advice: get to eden tonight, into the tunnel at least before reset.... and then go back home, that way you can go to eden immediately at reset
Just ran eden and I see no different in the statue to candle ratio
I started off with 4 ascended candles and getting every statue I now have 19
you're probably missing a few statues then
they had 4 originally.... you can get on a clean run max 16
ah
15.75?
Yes
hhhhmmm
so you might have missed one or two statues....
The max is 15.75, the ratio didn’t change
No that means I should be just under 20 candles
if there are 64 statues, and you lit them all, 64/4 = 16
There’s not 64 statues there’s only 63
There are 63 statues
ok, this is annoying, I keep getting "revived", but stay dead on eden
so I have to wait until my heartbeat goes away, rinse and repeat
3rd time it's happened
okay then you got them all
normally I just get sent straight to the spirit realm
It seems like it only happens when you take too long to die lol
At least eventually you die die when that happens, not get locked
Like your friends already died
ugh
BTW, on the 15.75 vs 16 thing, I think the last 1/4 comes from the amount it gives you sometimes that happens right after the saved Fallen ascend but before you step forward to claim their stars into Ascended Candles, for any of you who've noticed that happening.
Everyone in my group is already gone. First time I turned into a spirit.
second and third time I revived as a ded boi
No profanity 🤧
I dunno, Seraph. I could swear I'd stood there for a minute after the initial auto-influx, and it didn't budge further until I stepped forward and claimed the stars left by the Fallen. I don't actually care one way or the other, and I haven't remembered to try just because I honestly don't care enough, but it makes sense that it could be, and no one's bothered to demonstrate that it doesn't yet, so... Just thought I'd mention it. 🙂
🙄
@sick bay those are the rules your agreed to when you joined here. This is a family friendly server, please delete any swearing
Oh I’ve done so many runs in eden just to see exact numbers for things
Started with exactly 0 candles multiple runs just to test
Oh, really. OK, then 👍
is everybody gone? the names on the side are different
570ish in server
That’s what I did some days in the season, I would go do candle runs right before daily reset and then right after
Big brain candle gathering
Really after u collected all the spirits and u didn't eden run sky is pretty boring imo
Did*
All i’ve been doing is helping out players if i come across anyone honestly, occasionally just climb eden to see if anyone is struggling
Idk what’s going on but im having trouble moving my character. I got nicked by a rock and then I couldn’t move at all. Lost two stars.
Tried again and my character again stopped moving and i lost four more. What’s going on?
Ive never had this much trouble in eden. Even my first run alone
Hold on, did they do something with jumping in eden? When I jump to move forward my character stutters in the air for a second. I get that theres wind, but this has never happened to me either
That wasn’t the case though. I was moving forward with ny thumb and it wouldn’t register at all. Did it again a little ways down
Also @soft valve
In your suggestion you said something about not being able to move in the constant rain. Don’t jump. It will only knock you over. Instead, walk
did eden reset?
!edenreset
The Eye of Eden resets weekly on Sundays. The reset happens at the beginning of the day, 12am Pacific Time.
Can anyone confirm that the Eden glitch has indeed been fixed with the last update?
The glitch that stops the rain? Yes it was fixed
@fast lance you’re talking about the rain in the statues room ?
Ye
Ah ok
Yeah that’s the glitch I meant
Yeah I tried to do the glitch and it doesn’t work anymore
I’m not in the states, but 12 am pacific time has passed now, right? That’s to say eden has reset?
I thought 12 pm was in the middle of the day
Yeah, it reset just over 3 hours ago. 🙂
👍
Have they changed it slightly? When you die? I’m used to shooting off out of a statue and heading off into the long flight to orbit. This time I got sent right back to a live player and my little blue flame followed them around until they died. Was me and two other little blue flames, so three of us were following this one player.
Only then did we break out of statues and go flying.
I think it depends if you are in an instance with other players.
Is there some way to keep running in the red rain without getting knock down
I’m watching these people run without getting knocked down ?
For me dude made it to sand dunes
Just run and jump
When I get knocked
Have to wait a few second before getting up ?
if you jump then it takes longer to get up so sometimes I jump and sometimes I don't
Oh that’s why
@cunning sierra sometimes the rocks hit you and you lose a star, but you can keep running. other times the rocks knock you down and keep hurting you. i’m not sure if there’s any way to keep running, but i heard jumping is slower than running,,
@cunning sierra we'll be singing, when we're winning
Dodge every single rock
Oof eden is still the only thing making me angry when I play it, because it's not difficult- it's annoying. The physics of the water with how if you're technically "mid-air" makes it frustrating to play.
I can never get over that feeling when I'm in the storm. The game doesn't do what you want because the touch controls make it so floaty when there's wind. Combined with the storm knocking you down it's incredibly frustrating to navigate and you end up frustrated and angry because you want to light up the statues and save the kids, but you spend a lot of resources just going back and forth because the storm kills your light and removes stars from you.
It's obviously better than it's been, but this is the only videogame I play where I'm actually angry after completing the stage, because despite me doing a good job- I still feel like I did alright. It's just frustrating.
/rant
My own objection to the level has always been that the game isn’t linear and therefore Eden makes no sense as a separate level. Unless of course, one sees the whole game as a cycle of life metaphor.
But of the many iterations I have played in beta, this is one of the better at least.
Expanded rant:
Just to be clear; it's not like there's a culmination of all the skills you've learned throughout the game from flying, platforming and traversing rain and other elements in the previous stages.
Because there is no real progression taking what the player has learned there is no coherent way for the player to feel they are in a challenging environment that if they pay attention and time it well, they will make it or get to the end.
There is just random frustration because the storm intervals are random, and even when you get to the end water after the sand dune, there is nothing removing your light and stars- so the intention from the developers is that the storm is supposed to kill you.
Relying on one thing to do all the work without taking into account that the player has learned something from playing the game makes for a very, very poor end level experience. To be honest it's pretty garbage.
There could even be a sense of "get from place A to B" using good timing and light a set of statues or the correct statues to progress the stage, but it's just a free roam trying to dodge the storm, which recently has gotten (from my experience) more inconsistent intervals- which increases the frustration because your skill matters even less.
It actually goes against what you've learned previously. You learn to get through the rain in the Hidden Forest by running and jumping, and throughout the game you figure out that the fastest way to travel on the ground is through running and jumping.
In Eden, you get knocked down from the storm when you run and jump, which is completely backwards and destroys the players confidence in their own skills.
It's widely know and debated how luck is a bad factor in games. In Hearthstone, Blizzards cardgame there was a lot of controversy as many cards made it up to luck to win. Eventually they made a "classic mode" or something similar where they made a core set of cards and decks which put big constraints on what cards can be played, to limit luck and maintain player skill.
@broken delta It definitely is, but it's strange that they still haven't changed the stage to reflect some kind of master over the games movement at least
The storm is literally "run when you think it's safe and wish for the best gl"
I've been hoping they would make changes after the game went live but it's still the same
In the end it's better to just play safe and skip some statues that are hard to reach so you can rush to the safe zone. Then play eden again to get what you missed
Unfortunately that's the solution to get them all.
However, it is baffling that they haven't found a solution to the stage when the game is about "the experience" and feelings.
When you try to push and do better you get knocked down and pushed back. Literally.
You make some very good points @near forum
It was always my “pet peeve” with the level: there is no logical reason to go through it, other than to collect special candles. (And those weren’t even there until the very last version in beta.)
I mean imagine if they put in small points where you need to use emotes to "soothe the gods" or something, where at the statues you light up you have to use Pray, Wave and different emotes to make the next storm pass less harsh, or to actually unlock more kids to save
^
I agree with that. It's always felt weird
I know it gets repetitive to mention Journey, but the level designs are so similar it’s difficult not to: the difference being that you must walk through them all in Journey to complete the game.
It loses much of its charm after the first time. When I first went through eden I was heartbroken. Even stronger finale than journey. After that it's a grind
It feels like they noticed that people weren’t doing the Eden/Storm level and so they added the unlocks through ascended candles to “force” players through it.
Or is that mean of me to suggest? 🙃
Sadly; and this is a huge point:
The storm in Eden didn't frustrate me when I used the glitch. Through that method you through cunning and literally besting the game, circumvent the storm and straight forward remove the frustrating element which is pure bs, resulting in a gathering of the last kids you need to save and then you choose to take the death. I felt great about it, both as a way to get all the statues but more importantly; to complete the game. I didn't die from frustration; I would choose to enter the storm again and die with it.
Imagine if they put that in as a player choice!
If they allow the storm to be bested, the player feels mastery of the game and a sense of progression, and they get to make the choice(the only choice) to end the stage "together" with the game as a reconciliation of skill where the end is inevitable and they must die.
The game will have to be repeated over and over anyways, but they're really missed the mark.
My ideal version of eden would be like this: you go through again and again dying and getting stronger every time, but when you manage to collect all winged light you are able to barely make it through the storm and ascend one last time, leading to a true ending where you don't die
The only thing I disagree with is your assertion that the storm intervals are pure luck. I've gotten a lot better at timing it and getting to the next safe point, so much so that I generally only lose 2 to 5 stars before reaching the last bit where the storm never relents.
You are correct that it doesn't utilize anything learned on the way there, though. Eden is basically a different game with a different skill set.
I keep getting fudged up in eden, the explody red stuff breaks me, so it’ll be a while before I can do other stuff.
That's a fair point @limber cloak I could just be feeling it's random when it's not. I'll have to see when I go again next time.
They even have the heart gifting system, a lot of the game is built on empathy and experience of life, where the stages represent stages of life.
The fact that they haven't added an element of choice and empathy for Eden, where if you're able to master the various parts of the game, get ahead of the storm or stop it somehow(emotes, pinging, flying or being smart with use of candlelight, etc); you could make the choice to end it amicably instead of dying to the rage.
I do wonder why Eden has to be so violent, in a way.
A gameplay element that frustrates as well is that when you hold to go forward and you get knocked down, let's say you jumped: You have to redo your forward move on the touch controls.
If it was a controller you could just hold forward normally and your kid would get up, but in Sky you have to redo the thing and it breaks your idea of "but I'm holding forward"
I think the release of death and the transcendence that comes with it is important - "beating death" would seem very strange to me.
I just don't get it with Eden
You used to be able to survive.
Not if it's the only way to end the stage
Ending the stage and dying is currently the only way to beat it, which even with the eden glitch was the only solution.
Imo that fits well with death as the motive
the levels in sky are supposed to represent the stages of life mid life childhood so i think eden represents death?????
That's correct kat
Maybe the true ending would be proving yourself to the ancestors and joining them as equal
No, I meant that in a previous version you did survive Eden. Not now.
I need to send them an email with my thoughts I think. Discord scrolls too fast.
yea kinda
And Starflame, adding to your point of inconsistency, you learn early in Eden that the sound of thunder and howling wind means that rocks are going to start hurtling towards you. In the final stage, you hear the same sounds but they don't coincide with the storm intervals anymore. That took me a long time to realize and unlearn. No wonder it feels frustrating.
The saddest is how the game follows a really nice path throughout the various stages but then they completely throw game science out the window for the final moment.
Yeah, same here @limber cloak I felt I was just really bad at the game for a while and then it hit me that everything disconnects in Eden and it's just "try to survive but nothing you do will make sense"
yea
Maybe the simplest way to improve would be to make it a flying level where you slowly lose your wing and end up on the ground, die, and ascend up to see all the statues you saved around you
maybe I guess
If you just focus on the visuals it makes sense, more or less, but it's definitely one of those weird things that doesn't match up with what you've learned.
you're getting chased away by krill and the krill gets you lol
I understand how this could have happened, seeing as Flower, Journey and those earlier games have had no element of progression and "gameplay" in the same sense as Sky is much more traditional
Journey just has you walk around and chirp
we chirp and walk around
Then in the end you still walk through and it's a nice slice of different areas.
yea
In sky you have so much more to do so you end up having to do tasks and use the game's physics to get around. Suddenly they want you to just use your candles a bit and walk through?
mhm.............
Big oversight, it might be hard for the others on the team to see it, or maybe jenova's vision is too tunnel vision instead
Slowly losing your abilities and freedom makes sense to me. It's meant to feel limiting and scary.
^^^^^
Yes that part does feel "right". I don't agree with how your actions negatively affect the situation though.
again, if a game isn't linear, having to die to "proceed" doesn't make sense
Journey was more about unraveling the mystery of the world and enlightenment though. Sky being more of a social experience in which progression means much more should make you feel rewarded for your work, in a narrative sense not just cosmetic
What do you mean @broken delta
I think you may be conflating mechanical issues with thematic ones. They are connected, sure, but a level that needs gameplay tuning doesn't mean its intent is misplaced.
That's a good point. I usually feel the end stage is a culmination of all things learned and taught so far, so that in order to "make it" you should at least use the elements you now know
The way Eden is so backwards in that sense breaks my trail of thought for how it should be, because of the increasing frustration through the level.
I think that since there is no outspoken storyline, and therefore your Sky kid doesn't have a character arc, having what is essentially an open world with some fun, but repetitive challenges leading to a stage where you sacrifice your abilities and die makes no sense to me.
If I didn't care for any of the higher level spirit cosmetics, I could play the game on...is it 5 wedges of wing power quite happily and never visit Eden.
There has to be a stronger incentive to go through Eden than just to buy cosmetics and level up friendships, because those things are superficial and not necessary to gameplay.
Well for me it's mainly ascended candles. I think when I max out my wing I will lose all interest in eden
To me it does make some sense as the red thread of "Save the children of light" and then having to sacrifice yourself to do so in the process does fit the bill.
However, the way Eden is constructed breaks the thought process of that. If they added the element of choice instead of forced .. damnation..? It would feel a lot better.
I would be much more okay having been told "You saved all the children here but the burden is too much to carry for you. Sacrifice yourself to ascend with the children?".
At least then you feel there is a need for the action of losing your powers. I'm not sure what that would go against jenovas thought process of the game, but as this is way more of a traditional videogame, I don't feel it breaks the cycle to have a more traditional final level.
The ascended candles don't really have any significance either versus hearts, so it's not like doing eden is important at all really.
Imagine if you had to do Eden to gain the ability to gift hearts
"You have yet to reach the Light, the gift of giving still eludes you" maybe?
The greatest example of self sacrifice comes with nier automata. Won't spoil if you haven't played though
Something that would be even better would be that yes- you gift hearts for candles.
But only by going to "The Light" could you actually redeem them.
I'm sure they've thought about this.
That would make Eden a neccessary element, and even going several times a week could be fine for most
It would also teach patience somewhat? If you have 25 hearts and you want to wait for 5 more so you could get a cape and a new hair cosmetic
@modern sleet hah, glory to mankind!
This is a really interesting conversation btw
@broken delta you can't carry the weight of the world on your own
@modern sleet argh, the feeeeelz!
eden reset last night right
yes I’m enjoying silently reading this discussion
Yeap
yee
Well last night is ambiguous it depends on timezone for me it was 10am 😅😜
true
confession: I have now ascended all spirits and have a few ascended candles left, so this is the first time in weeks I have not bothered going through Eden. It felt like a relief.
bahaha
I have 28 ascended candles right now. I've spent a lot of them just ascending friendships because there's nothing else to spend them on
wow I’m just beginning the game compared to you all.
Literally, besides ascending nodes for spirits there's absolutely no point in Eden or ascended candles.
Like if you had a Heart lvl 2 option after ascending sure maybe
But in the "endgame" of it there's no point
see, that's my point
There is no need to hit up Eden and head to Orbit as anything you can do ingame can be done.. in the normal space.
It certainly feels like they will at some point make an "expansion" to the game and increase the max wing level, like an mmo
There's just the Elder spirits which I guess are nice, but besides those it doesn't need you to do anything there.
9 max level is just too odd a number
in a way, the way it's structured now with the ascended candles, it only emphasis the whole race to gather All The Cosmetics, instead of giving the player a philosophical level to ponder life (or something - again, Journey).
^
I think I’d find helping others through Eden rewarding even if I became a pro and unlocked everything already (which will take me ages so plenty of game left for me for sure at least).
many beta players have that thought cockatiel
The game philosophy of what's shown to you is that. Experience the game, collect the things, make friends.
But they present this currency and say it's the most important, but you don't need it at all unless you want all the stuff. So instead of completing the game to unlock higher friendship levels- something you should only be allowed to do in Eden among the elders, it's just there as a nice way to get more wing power
I get so nervous and develop tunnel vision in Eden, so I wouldn't be much help to others - sorry!
i was one of them but i just won’t enter the last stage anymore
I guide players through eden sometimes, because the movement towards the final part is pretty ez if no one acts up with the krill and throws off the timing
it’s meaningless to go through the last stage together
Even after many times I mess up in the early stages sometimes. I actually find the rocks a lot harder than krill
This is why the wasteland is often more dangerous than eden.
It isn't really more dangerous. But it feels more dangerous. And that's like, the whole game.
i did it once with alex and i found you can help others by keeping shouting, that doesn’t help but only hurts my eyes and prevents me from finding statuses (i’m not blaming anyone)
i would rather go alone
it’s relatively easy to master the first part
Personally I agree with your points about mechanics but my own experience of the game has felt very strong thematically and philosophically. I believe it's deliberately bucking expectations of a final level, and does so successfully, but it could stand to be less frustrating.
I don't think a choice in the matter of self sacrifice or death would be appropriate given my reading of the game from the standpoint of forgiveness, generosity, and self sacrifice. But of course that's much more subjective than a discussion about controls or level design patterns.
I think we can agree that the level doesn't feel quite finished yet.
First part is timing, second part is stick to the left, krill part is run when krill passes, last part is a mix of both. That part feels good as in the beginning it's challenging and fresh, and as you master it you have yourself to thank for it.
Strictly mechanically speaking, the fact that in a game about flying there is none of it in the final level is problematic
this also
I think that's a good way of putting it @limber cloak . It does the job as a stage, but how it does it could be more satisfying overall.
I've said before that I'd like to see Eden become the start of a new cycle once we see new content come. After all, we literally turn around in Orbit and come back for another shot.
So imagine finishing Eden, and you come back to a new or drastically changed set of levels. That would give incentive beyond currency to make it through, and would allow players to see the world in a different light
Most definitely! There's no flying against the storm and the storm becoming too harsh
thinking about journey is the easiest way to evaluate storm
Imagine if you save all the kids. Awesome
Then you fly up but the storm makes it hard and you die mid-air
That would solve the issue imo
what differences you felt in this two game
@modern sleet I agree, except that the game is a cycle. You begin and end without flight.
(Sorry this is in the middle of this interesting discussion but I just wanted to share this, in case the teal chibi who helped me a few hours ago sees this, thanks for waiting for me! 💛)
@grand ferry I haven't played Journey and they are separate games
Tailsun how dare you, it's out on so many platforms now (slight joke but you should really experience it)
the emotional experience tgc trying to deliver is pretty similar
Can you get Journey on Mac?
@grand ferry exactly, the emotional experience is key here
not yet on mac
dang it. Heard the iPhone version sucks, so I’ll wait for the mac version.
ps4 version is the best
It was free on ps plus at some point
get a ps4 and save sony
That's how I got it
it doesn't suck...much, it's just a little harder to play control-wise
Technically the PC version is "the best" but imo sitting in the couch by yourself or with a friend, really enjoying the game vs sitting at your pc chair, is a big difference. So PS4 version has a big pull for that
i played pc version once it was out
and i stopped before i finish the first level
aka the intro
what does the couch have to do with it...?
But back to the Eden topic; I will always feel Eden and Orbit is an unfinished part of the game until Ascended Candles actually mean something and Eden becomes less frustrating.
Because after your second, potentially third time completing Eden you don't need to go there anymore because there isn't anything you need to do there to progress other parts of the game, or to unlock features.
To compare it to Journey, there is no white cape in Sky.
That's just a personal preference @broken delta It's more enjoyable to sit in the couch with friends vs you alone on your pc. Even with a nice pc chair I relax better in a couch.
@near forum you mean for PS4? I have like a gaming/computer table with chairs, so I can only play Sky on the couch with my phone.
Exactly
Most people have the PS4 connected to their TV and not on a computer setup
I feel like writing in #wishlist-and-ideas-archived "Please read Sundays conversation about Eden" 
personally, i feel more like appreciating a game on console and killing my time on phones and pc
@near forum @limber cloak So if I’m reading your suggestions correctly (and adding my own interpretations), what do you think of this suggestion?
After you successfully light all the statues at eye of Eden, instead of being forced to succumb to the storm as all there’s left, let there be a message telling you something like “You have saved all the stars here! But the storm is too strong alone.” (Since you have to do that last part yourself) “Sacrifice yourself and ascend with the stars you saved.” These messages only appear after you’ve successfully returned the light to all children (before a reset).
Upon doing so, you will ascend with all the star children instead, joining up with them instead where the waving scene is usually, and you will fly up with them. There would be a new cutscene, and this is when some new stages unlock, or maybe like a level 2 of the current stages.
This could be a way to add more content and progression to the game, while trying to incorporate what you two have mentioned. I’m not sure if I’ve added much, but this is what I envisioned it might look like. What do you think?
I’m not sure what would happen in the next “Eden” after this, besides incorporating more flying like someone else suggested. I’m also not sure if this breaks this circular cycle like I think the devs intended to keep, without suggesting like an endgame nirvana?? Maybe a nirvana that somehow indicates that what is left is helping others reach it. I’m at a loss afterwards.
(Oh also in-case it wasn’t clear, in my version of suggestion, you still have to die to ascend with the other star children. So keeping the self-sacrifice theme)
what do you do with left over ascended candles
after you unlock wing buffs
does it then just go to friends for warp
To friends for next tier of abilities, yes including warp.
ah
Lvl2 hug, high five, fist bump
Are unlocked with the first ascended candle
Unlocked for purchase, that is. Those cost candles
is there more ascended unlock for friends? lol lvl 2 warp ? :p to anywhere from home?

@vast plinth Those are good points, I think that as long as eden changes into something that frustrates less and uses the normal gameplay to incorporate skill instead of blind luck or plain perseverance it will be good.
It's only one of the two parts that makes Eden work. In the beginning you're led to believe Eden is the most important place. But as you play.. it becomes nothing more than a place to get more wing power.
Keeping the gameplay loop TGC wants is important I guess. All we can do is discuss and speculate. I wish the devs read this channel as well and not just the suggestions channel.
Especially because there haven't been any news to them trying anything new with Eden. It seems as they're happy with it and that's just really strange. Seasons are nice and all but if there's no items or quests that require ascended candles.. why do Eden more than the 4-5 times you would need to get all the wing nodes?
Maybe we'll see a change towards next year. Who knows
After I ascended all my spirits (even the wave and cry twice), I should start with 39 stars after I rebirth? Is this number correct?
I want to make sure because the last time I ran through Eden the spirits glitched and wasn’t added to my cape and I don’t want that to happen
That's correct
bruh
i finished eden
for the fist time
itmademecry
this game is truly the best ive ever played
Thank you @near forum
:D Glory to mankind @modern sleet, @broken delta!!
:0
My eyes are always moist when flying to Orbit, the song gets me every time
I was recording after exiting orbit/the light and looking back at the footage, you can see a lot of what’s going on behind the white screen
Just a quick question
Eden is not beatable right
Im pretty sure it isnt but
Skfkgk
Technically you beat it
If you die
But I've beaten it multiple times and gotten all ascended spirits and I still have to die everytime so unless you have to get all elders unlocked to get a secret ending I'm pretty sure you have to die everytime
@keen shoal Its only as beatable as death itself... but maybe you can come to terms with it. 😉
@gritty rose no homo, homie
Managed to fly over the orbit gate. It’s bright over here
I’m a demon in the 3rd picture
the game is good at first, but it lacks content
im getting sick of grinding wax already
and i started playing 5 days ago
I'm not sure if I should do another eden run if I only have 2 more ascended candles to ascend my last spirit 🤔
I got 14
The second one is really cool
Castle pic
The max is 16 right?
I think so, the most I’ve ever gotten is 14 and missed about 4-6 statues
Thank you, I'm tempted to do eden again just so I could finish it but I would have to get all the ones I missed
Iirc the max is 15.75 @vocal gust
Kinda irks me a bit they didn’t just put 1 more statue to make it an even 64 but ah well
I thought you get .25 from just doing the run
I heard people getting 1/4 of a candle without freeing any child
but I'm not sure
I see
that .25 is included in 15.75
Wait, that doesn't make sense because 63 (number of statues) divided by 4 is 15.75
I think you get one whole candle even if you don’t free someone. A pity candle lol
a whole candle or a child?
Lol that sentence is hilarious without context
Lol
I ascended all my spirits 
Same I just haven't died to claim the last two yet
Next goal is to get all elders lol
Fr
does eden reset tonight
I really like this picture uwu
When do the star people in Eden reset?
Every Sunday!
Above people say that eden’s resetted, but for me they haven’t.
10 am pst if I’m not mistaken?
so in 9 mins ?
WHOEVER DECIDED TO FLY ABOVE THE GATE IN EDEN
AND BECAME A DEMON
I PRESENT YOU THIS
nah i think it’s ok
The Eye of Eden resets weekly on Sundays. The reset happens at the beginning of the day, 12am Pacific Time.
listen i ended up accidentally going through eden twice in 24 hours
how do you accidentally do that
someone grabbed my hand and i didn’t realize their goal was eden!
LOL
but the ending was really beautiful i’m really glad ;-;
lmao erin
I just read that someone said they patched the glitch in Eden. Are they talking about teleporting in the rock rain? Can we not get past the constant rain like before where it would stop raining completely?
hahaha oml
i would panic
and @vestal shore i dunno what glitch they fixed... there’s so many
Do you know if we can still do the teleport to home in the last area to avoid the constant rock rain?
No I heard that got patched
Aww man
I should’ve kept doing Eden...I stopped once I got 9 wedges but if I kept going I could have probably maxed all the spirits before that was patched
don’t take my word for it though. There indeed are so many glitches, so many of which I’ve only heard of. I might be thinking of the wrong one
honestly the glitches are kinda fun in this game hahaha
Really hope it still works 😦
Yeah I love the glitches.
Oh cool, if you do and you think of it could you tag me to say if it works either way? I will probably try it too but not for a few days because I’m waiting for a friend
Ok sure! 
Thanks!
Got 13 candles today in eden :))
Me: gets reborn for the first time
Me, freaking out:
https://youtu.be/XCN527KATKM
I get 10 candles on a typical run. Well done on 13! And those who get them all, how? Method please? 😃
Take a look at the Eden map and just memorize it, that’s all we do
Or you could just open it while doing Eden
With 108 stars it’s fairly easy to go through and hit up the statues until the constant storm where you just immediately head to the next one
Plan. I did have it open and referred to it for a few minutes, then I just went for the free run.
I just straight up naruto run when i’m not with my friends and somehow still got 12
I usually only use the map for the first part, that’s where I always miss statues
Most of the time I end up with 15 candles
It was a good time in there yesterday though. Lots of people in there, and lots of candles lit everywhere. If I’d paused and had a better strategy, I’d have gotten more, I’m sure.
You could always go again
I could! All the statues I could see that I’d left were in the open space towards the diamond.
yes
I tried the play dead trick yesterday too. Got caught right in the krill’s light at the end. Laid down and it did go blue and move on!
My friends did it for the dark plant with the 4 krill and they fail MISERABLY without my help
Too scared to try that, if I caught I go straight home
I lost my light because the rocks smashed me but I didn’t lose any stars.
There was one time i got yeeted by 3 krill at once into the wasteland gate and it glitched making me don’t lose stars @gray geode
And I was about 5 steps away from the winged light just before the tunnel starts. Right in the open. Really glad that worked because yeah, I panic and return home usually.
One of my friends really like using the catapult in wasteland
But 70% of the time she gets caught by krill
She still likes going on it till this day
I had fun with that one. There was a player about to set it off so I jumped in right before they pulled the trigger. I don’t think they knew what it was. With the spirit statue there it looks like something you should light. 😂
Lol,i once did a party for the cannon and a person wasted 5 candles for the catapult but it was bugged
catapult
Oh no!
Oh nos
gave him 2 hearts for that
It flings you high and far doesn’t it? Brilliant fun!
I’m too scared to be caught by krill lol
It’s more fun when you’re about to be in the krill’s sight
Luckily I haven’t been caught by krill in awhile
Can’t you be caught by krill if you go above it??
I haven’t been caught by them because i AM ONE OF THEM
gasp
if you’re close enough
Mer I hate those things so much. My heart still pounds like crazy, and I’ve done GW and Eden enough times now to know my@way through
Krills are just big flying shrimps
I hate facing krills but i do like having to be more mindful when around them
Got to be in a very specific mood to go for it. Eden run yesterday I slipped off a pipe and ended up lost. Handed my game over to my husband and let him get me up to the tunnel. Showed him the play dead trick up the top there 😂
Same. I’ve never accompanied anyone. But I do light up every single player I come across so if I get stuck or lost or run out it’s easier to recharge or “follow”
i usually do it solo, but i did go with my friend last time and it was good fun haha
The rocks at the start are always glitched in a good way for me
I’ve only guided people before, that’s the most I do
Do they actually hit you? I’ve run right through those first ones multiple times. Never got hit.
I usually bank on them not hitting me
I mean, caution because I’ve said that now and it’ll have been fluke.
but y’know 3/5 times they knock me off the platform
so i usually play it safe and just go when there’s not that many
It’s the wind too. Try to jump up a ledge and get blown half a mile down the path.
Rule one: Never fly in Eden
It’s always 1000km/h in my head when i’m in eden
Ye i saw a moth try to fly and it hurt seeing the guy get blown all the way to the start
Oof
And that silly little crack near the start that should be easy in theory, and every time I’ll fall down it and have to try several times to get past it.
Someone put a table over it once. They just sat on the ledge above and watched the carnage. 😂
Ha! Was it you!?
just practiced music while people jumped on it
idk if it was me, i know some others do it too :0
Honestly, since I’ve acended all my spirits I don’t really do Eden anymore
😂😂
I ALREADY DID
i’m hoping they’ll add more uses for it soon so i’m saving up
WASTE MORE ON MOTHS
I’ve done the majority of mine. Need to do the 2nd level ascension for those two spirits, and there’s a handful I haven’t ascended yet
I just wasted all of mine on friends
same
I have a few close friends but that’s really all
i would stay all night to play with friends
I have school starting up in 2 days so I can’t really do that
oh yeah boon
did your whole family join yet
I met someone really lovely yesterday. Had unusual trouble getting the winged light up in the cliff on wasteland. Usually just fly left from tunnel exit but it wasn’t working for me. This one player stood at the bottom the whole time recharging me with every fail. In the end they decided to friend me to get me up there. I love those players. The guardians of the kids. The ones who hang around in dangerous/difficult spaces, purely to see others through them.
My husband and my son. 😂👍
awww
Convert your other child and dogs too
Daughter will love it but she’s not tempted to try yet. Littlest son is just too little. He’s having fun bashing things in Minecraft.
don’t let him play fortnite
fornites rein of glory is already over
i always forget when i already did an eden run for the week so sometimes i eden rub again with no candles
so now i always do eden run on mondays
I’m on a nice even 80 stars now. 8 wedges and 20 more to get to 9. 🤞
9 wedge clubbbb
9 also
Whoop whoop! You do have to get the Eden ones to get 9, don’t you? Or am I mistaken?
Yeah you do
yup you do
you need 100 to get 9
I’ve proud to say I’ve gotten all 108 and I’m not willing to lose them
and i’m too lazy to recheck my algebra homework on this game
How many buffs am I missing?
how many wedges do you start with when reborn?
5
Did you collect all stars from the levels?
Yup
Nope.
Then 18, I think
I loved how the stars are just laying down unbothered in eden
Unless you missed a few stars
I think there’s 39 buffs? correct me if i’m wrong
Just 😎 😂
Think so, since two spirits have two wing buffs
I don’t think I’ve missed any. I’ve gone through the wiki every now and again to check there’s nothing I’ve forgotten
The power of wikis
hmm
We have to thank the beta players for creating the wikis
Two npcs have two nodes to unlock
My brain hurts. 😂 you don’t need to work it out. I can just open the game and count. 🤦♀️
Count your friends instead
i know i could get to 9 wedges with almost 6 wedges starting off hmm
Is it true that there’s a heart hidden in that star path
Leading to that door where you’re reborn
Where is it exactly I can’t find it
- I have 18 buffs to get.
Oh yeah it’s on the right, like how theres a bench on the left of the path
you have to get close to it to see tho
Oh no that’s the bench
it’s in your right
you go forward a bit and start heading right
there’s a little star structure with a rating stone in the middle
I wish i had photos but i don’t have any djdhkdkd
Np!!!
Anyone know which 2 spirit have 2 nodes ?
Wave and cry
I went to Eden for the first timer yesterday! I rlly like the ending <3
It’s based on how many statuses you light up @shy sinew
oof what are statuses?
ohhh okay
Statues lol
Just remember the rain pattern and you will get the hang of it
I call them stone bois
4 statues = 1 candle, I can re share the map that someone else posted here yesterday
OH STATUES
And then you can navigate around the room to light them up
try not to rush either that cost me stars that could've gave me more candles
So remember the pattern
@vague coral show me
The locations are accurate, the part about the end zone being safe I think has been changed since then
It’s just constant rain all the way after the pink
yep!
yea high quality ver is still in pins
@shy sinew stage 3 is the statues part, stages 1 and 2 involve krill; which one is it that you’re having trouble with?
She’s having trouble with the candles
all of it 😂 but I don’t want to explore without knowing what I’m getting into bc eden is difficult and I imagine very time-consuming
hmm
The map helps
climbing up can take ~7 minutes when you know the layout
but yeah lighting the statues can take a while depending on how many stars you're taking in
Am I allowed to post YouTube links here? There was one playthrough I watched where the person showed every safe place and how to time the dragons, etc
Yep
To everyone who helped and talked to me, thank you all 😌 I shall be exploring eden soon
This really helped me, my blind run through was TERRIBLE but all my ones since then have been 9-10 candles
Lol
@vague coral thank you
My final goal is reaching the red diamond, the centre of the Storm
Never been so far
I mean if your only goal is the red diamond you could just run for it ignoring the statues lol
Lose everything but def get there
I’ve been close to the red diamond. It’s looked like it’s literally three steps away, but you take those three steps and it’s still three steps away. Seems to shrink away from you, and really tries to blow you back to stop you getting closer. Not sure you can actually touch it or go through it.
pretty sure you cant
I tried, you can’t

