Game Dev General

[kindred bone]

I can try

[misty spruce]

https://ishinada.itch.io/rise-of-the-demon-lord?secret=w6vMFFX4ViBnLdlDBvU6iaVpI

it should be this one

btw you can adjust difficulty in settings

cuz while hard is fun for me, feel free to beat a mission on easy, unlock the unit, then change to hard, i dont mind, i want you guys to have fun

[kindred bone]

I'm playing on hard, I love the art style, maybe the UI is a bit too simplistic. Gameplay is fun, I like card games.

[misty spruce]

btw, be sure to check the armory for ability swaping

[kindred bone]

Enemies are just colors.

[undone karma]

Checking it out!! I'll try out Phantasmal's game a bit later too

By the way, I could use "Black flame" twice without it costing me my move

[misty spruce]

art not done yet

[misty spruce]

you can stack move counts on a card if you click next turn without moving

[undone karma]

I mean it didn't end my turn unlike other stuff

With that char

Hmm

[misty spruce]

killing 1 wave of enemies adds 1 move to all allies

[trail parrot]

I like the music

very nice

[kindred bone]

You should add more feedback for the effects, when the hero gains shield I don't even notice x.x, but so far the game is pretty good.

[misty spruce]

[trail parrot]

I think my game might be too hard...

or maybe difficulty is not the problem, but the fun?

hmm

both, maybe

lemme see if adding a health bar helps

-# to enemies that is

[misty spruce]

fuck yeah, the savefiles work

[kindred bone]

To be fair, a game about procrastination is not that exciting, I like monster girls.

[trail parrot]

CerberLUL

[kindred bone]

I changed the difficulty to easy, still lost and then it crashed, not sure if it's my PC

[misty spruce]

oh yeah, if ya didnt notice, the art and demon lord name actually changes in game depending on gender and name inputted

[trail parrot]

oh damn

CerberWow

[misty spruce]

wait what

can you try refresing?

also check if the savefile saved properly

im gonna try triggering a lose condition on my side to see if i can replicate the bug

[kindred bone]

I refreshed and my selection for easy wasn't saved I think

Reset savefile doesn't seem to work

[misty spruce]

did you lose any progress

[misty spruce]

oh its a really long tap and hold

[kindred bone]

No

[misty spruce]

okay that means that still worked, hope you had fun with it despite that crash tho

[kindred bone]

I was able to win the first fight stacking move counts with the skeleton (I can't see how many a card has). Yeah it's really fun, good job.

[misty spruce]

quick side note, just incase, you can build demon lord and Kael to be either support/tank or dps so you can pick either have kael on unholy aura + death guard and demonlord on darkness eternal or kael is on death and decay while demonlord is on curse of the damned + eclipsed, or you can mix and match, just have fun making dum combos

also i found the error and i have fixed it i think

alright updated game to have the fix

also phanta, just tried your game and you guys cooked

its a bit laggy for me but thats because i play on an eggfryer

[trail parrot]

[trail parrot]

don't play on browser

its sucks

[misty spruce]

im a browser boi

[trail parrot]

there's lag spikes whenever it loads in a model

because lazy loading

-# also lighting is worse

[undone karma]

YAY I BEAT THE HARPIES

[misty spruce]

HARD?

[undone karma]

WWWW

Yes !!!!

[misty spruce]

[undone karma]

I failed the slimes first lol

This game rocks

[trail parrot]

okay I added health bar because my friend felt like he wasn't getting enough feedback

[undone karma]

A bit slow and it took me a while to realize energy is shared but I love the arstyle and vibe

[trail parrot]

whether he was doing damage or not

...I need to add win condition

[misty spruce]

on easier difficulties slimes is easier, but on harder difficulties harpies are easier

[trail parrot]

and the cutscene after that

[misty spruce]

goodluck if you plan to beat the rest of the levels

i suggest saving silver spire and haunted graveyard as your last zones

simply because those 2 areas are made when i was on devil dungeon master mode

[trail parrot]

okay I also allowed to skip death screen

cause I think that adds just a litttle bit of extra friction

which is really not good for a game like this

[undone karma]

Twoshotting the slime knights with "Death and decay" -> Wind blade

[trail parrot]

where respawning should be cheap

[misty spruce]

wait did you lose to the knights or the juggernauts last time?

also yknow that meme where when you unlock a character it gets weaker all of a sudden?

yeah i dont have that, all your unit unlocks have the same stats and abilities as their boss counter parts (except on easy, easy has a 25% decrease for enemy hp)

[undone karma]

The juggernauts ! It was just me and Kael so too tough

Nice xdeee

[misty spruce]

ganbatte , focus on splash to take out the boss, that thing has a ton of aoe

[trail parrot]

ah frick, escape minimizes instead of opening pause menu

[undone karma]

Don't hate me for this but I think your game is just a better version of Darkest Dungeon 1

[trail parrot]

in browser build

yet another reason to hate browser builds

CerberAngy

however, the enemies now have hp bars

[misty spruce]

i refuse to believe that but thx

[undone karma]

At least combat wise haha

[trail parrot]

I mean, the one live

try it now?

[misty spruce]

also may i ask, how much do you use the armory?

[undone karma]

Yeah, escape keys cursor stuff with browsers is a nightmare

[undone karma]

A bit so I have all the good abilities

[trail parrot]

looked at it and felt intimidated

CerberLUL

[trail parrot]

we had to rebind crouch to c because ctrl + w

my teammate thought that was crash at first

-# there's no real use for crouch anyways

just got crouch for free with the rest of the movement system

[undone karma]

Dammit

I love slimes but here the slime feels weaker than the harpies 😔

[misty spruce]

you beat it?

[undone karma]

yes

Also

HOLY SHIT THE GRAVEYARD ART IS SO COOL

[misty spruce]

[undone karma]

Do some enemies not get damaged?

I tried to use Celeste's quick attack on a ghost

[misty spruce]

check their max hp

[undone karma]

And it's not dead

It's at 15/40

[misty spruce]

notice anything?

[undone karma]

It's at 30/30

It resurrects

[misty spruce]

ya get the gimmick

so introducing, the multihit level

[undone karma]

I hate it

[trail parrot]

can I submit my game now and edit it until we hit the deadline?

or is it locked once I submit?

also godot's export process is soooooo much nicer than unity

[wicked escarp]

you can submit until its locked afaik

[trail parrot]

unity took half an hour to export the last time

[wicked escarp]

so submit early and then update if its still before its locked

[trail parrot]

godot doesn't even take 15 secs

godot is so nice

I should use it as my main

[wicked escarp]

i will never look back to unity

godot can do everything better and snappier and faster

[trail parrot]

unreal eats a gig of vram just existing

if not more

[wicked escarp]

the ecosystem with addons and such is still a bit unfinished which is holding it back. but now with the soon'ish asset store it should become a lot better

[wicked escarp]

and 300gb of hardware space

[trail parrot]

that too

[wicked escarp]

the 1 area godot falls behind still is open-world'ish games i feel like. you need a lot of manual stuff to get something to properly work.

not 100% why. but generally if your world is big and you have lots of different stuff its just gonna be a terrible experience. regardless of LOD or other simple technics

but yeah.. unity sucks

[trail parrot]

huh, didn't know that

[wicked escarp]

i made a open-world'ish game once optimising it was a pain.

[trail parrot]

neuroNod

[wicked escarp]

tho i have to say i also didn't have that much time while making it it took me like 1.5 months, since it was a birthday gift for anny. so i couldn't spend like days just optimizing it

[trail parrot]

birthday gift for Anny?

also, 1.5 months?

that's crazy

[wicked escarp]

it was elden fox. she played it on stream while being a bit drunk

[trail parrot]

damn

-# i can't find it

[wicked escarp]

the game itself isn't public..

[trail parrot]

oh ok

[wicked escarp]

never got around actually publishing it somewhere. (also since it was 1.5 of work the code is absolutely bad)

[trail parrot]

ah

I was wondering why you didn't want anyone to see 1.5 months of work

-# apart from anny

[wicked escarp]

well... i also lost the whole project during that time once...

i ran a bad git command and it wiped the project

[trail parrot]

discordpanOO

that sucks

I lost a project once

[wicked escarp]

so i had to reconstruct it from a previously exported version and vscode code timeline feature

[trail parrot]

oooh

you got it back!

-# unlike me

also now what am I supposed to do

I could make the ending and intro cutscene

but mentally speaking

I'm tapped out

[wicked escarp]

i just found my build folder for it

[trail parrot]

I made all these enemies (and enemy related things)

3d modelling, sprites, logic...

game dev is hard af

9 days of work and the game is still not that fun

-# granted that's probably due to my inexperience with making gameplay

well tbh I did come into this game jam seeing it as an opportunity to hone my skills

and I think I did that

am more proficient with godot, for one

[wicked escarp]

the game build still works

[misty spruce]

itz evil

[wicked escarp]

so... since this little conversation reminded me again about elden fox... i just decided to upload it. https://adesi.itch.io/eldenfox

so yeah.. godot does work in 3d open worlds.. but it was quite rough atleast with last years version. (not sure which version i think it was 4.1 or something)

[trail parrot]

decided to make this as the ending card

this as intro card

[undone karma]

@misty spruce Done >:D

Fun game

let me DM you the feedback

[misty spruce]

thx alot dude

hope you had fun with it despite the difficulty

[misty spruce]

sure thing

[undone karma]

It's gud

WAIT DEMON LORD HAS A DIFFERENT SPRITE IF IT'S A GIRL

[misty spruce]

check settings

[undone karma]

@trail parrot ! I tried your game
Initially skipped the tutorial so I only used pens lmao and it worked okay
But after doing the tutorial I now know that paper airplanes are the best
Feels like slaps are kinda weak, I wish they pushed enemies. I tried to slap a book and died 😔

The artstyle is sick too

[trail parrot]

slap used to be too op

you could just bat away dozens of enemies

as funny as that was

no good

am almost done with ending

just need to give boss hitbar

-# I forgor

[misty spruce]

im still drawaing all the sprites

7 more to go

[trail parrot]

final push!

[misty spruce]

5 left to go im gonna speed run this

also my download speed is slow so i might only be able to play your game phanta in an hour or 2

[trail parrot]

game over works!

[trail parrot]

WHAT

my game is smol tho

my work is done!

final version of the game made

just need to update the page

[trail parrot]

-# my teammates are of course free to make changes

annnnnnd it's live

CerberYAY

9 days of work!

first proper "medium" size game made

and in 3d too

https://voidbois.itch.io/procrastination

-# just in case you want to try it

[trail parrot]

GMTK game jam starts in 9 days xdd

If I was insane, I would join

[pine mortar]

i'm still in the process of finishing current game for this jam and i will still join it (i'm insane )

[silver junco]

im still fucked

[misty spruce]

guess who is the idiot that somehow made that card game functional on mobile, despite the fact that i havent done any changes to code

[wicked escarp]

using a engine does that sometimes.

[silver junco]

and not using one doesnt do that

[split yoke]

Why does this channel sometimes has no messages in a week and sometimes like sillyllion messages in a day

[trail parrot]

-# game jam

[misty spruce]

gamejam

[undone karma]

@trail parrot

Why did I get a game over? :<

I was full HP I think

Heals from slaps and was doing ok

Hmm nvm

[undone karma]

I couldn't get to the end even though I survived like 3-4 waves, enemies become very rough later on lol

The paperplane animation is awesome

There's some issues with the camera, it gets a bit locked / rotating weirdly in some places

[misty spruce]

Yoyo, might want to submission, because it requires some stuff you might want to talk about with your teammates

[pine mortar]

i was debugging for an hour why my audiolistener3d didn't work and it turns out it was because of subviewport

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-spin-fan-rope-gif-25248314

[misty spruce]

yo superbot, ya busy dude?

game jam done for me

[vapid trail]

I also suck at enjoying my gameplay.

[misty spruce]

i would like to honor thy Tradition
shameless plug
https://ishinada.itch.io/rise-of-the-demon-lord

[misty spruce]

its almost time, checking to make sure that we dont forget to submit

[silver junco]

we wont need to forgot, we arent finished

[quick cliff]

There is nothing to submit

[silver junco]

[misty spruce]

[silver junco]

look at my grass tho

idk why its liek that but its somethin

probs just gotta flip an x and a z somewhere

[quick cliff]

All I can say is that a song is planned still, and the instrumental is a banger.

[silver junco]

since we have the time to do more shit now the scope got a bit bigger

its not gonna be triple A but im hoping for a C

[misty spruce]

goodluck dude, its not much but i'll make sure to support you on it

you guys already did alot and actually got it to work, even if it takes a while, what counts is the effort and all the hard work and passion you guys poured on it

[trail parrot]

What!? I added one shot protection just for this issue

[trail parrot]

That's the hypnosis phone doing it's job

[trail parrot]

Here I was thinking about increasing the number of enemies to make it more interesting...

XD

[pine mortar]

it's almost 4 am and i'm finally done, time to bedge

https://tenor.com/view/dog-accepting-fate-tiktok-at-peace-gif-567488341419321713

[misty spruce]

Sam, iggly if you guys can somehow make it, there's still 3 hrs left

[silver junco]

not happening lmao

[misty spruce]

[silver junco]

this needs to cook for at least another week

[misty spruce]

ping me when you release it

[silver junco]

that is if i dont switch to vulkan

but i might

[silver junco]

i will most likely forget but sure

[misty spruce]

[silver junco]

im thinking baout grass

grass is hard cuz it needs to be anchored to the world, but you want it to move with he camera

[trail parrot]

We made like 2 dozen small changes in the last eight hours

Well, most are small

Ohh!

[naive moth]

30m remaining

[trail parrot]

Added difficulty slider!

If you find it hard, can reduce difficulty!

[naive moth]

-# or increase it

[trail parrot]

Or really increase it

[trail ridge]

btw you guys forgot to actually load difficulty saved data

[naive moth]

-# I won't say that the difficulty slider impact THAT much but it do impact it

[naive moth]

THIS I was about to fix it

[trail ridge]

nah I got it

[trail parrot]

Oh I didn't know how it worked

[naive moth]

thanks (anyway back to our private discution mb game dev channel)

[quick cliff]

Classic team chat

[silver junco]

[quick cliff]

Brings up dev logs

• Looks inside
  No gameplay loop

[trail parrot]

We made our gameplay loop on last day XD

Well, had logic but not really put it all together

[quick cliff]

Let's see, can we do 3d modeling the entire cast, finish a story, and complete the song within 30 minutes?

That as well as no gameplay loop

[trail parrot]

Za Warudo!

[silver junco]

some small bugs left to fix but its grass

[quick cliff]

Looks like grass to me

[silver junco]

my main issue with it rn is it taking the fps from 5000 to 1600

250000 instances might be too many

[quick cliff]

Just a few mesh objects

[silver junco]

only a couple

it generates the mesh on the fly making it completely memory independent so its already decently optemized

height = float(gl_VertexID / 2) * 0.5;
float width = (float(gl_VertexID % 2) * 2.0 - 1.0) * (1.0 - pow(height, 2.0));
vec3 vpos = vec3(width * 0.1, height * 0.5, 0.0);

[trail parrot]

1600 fps literally unplayable smh

[silver junco]

so true

[trail parrot]

Real gamers play with 1 million fps

[silver junco]

i think hat goal might be a bit unatainable

i was thinking 10K fps

[quick cliff]

That does require Vulkan at least

[silver junco]

yep

[quick cliff]

Only other thing I can think is to LoD the grass so that like a 2x2 instance is used after a certain distance and repeat.

I'm not sure if the bottleneck is instance count or raw verts tho.

[silver junco]

rn its 5 verts per instance, but a decent amoutn of compute is happening for each

[quick cliff]

That is a lot per grass

[silver junco]

cxhanging the amount of vertices to 4 bumped up the fps to 2k so its probably just raw compute being the issue

i have some other aproaches i could try

[quick cliff]

It could be both

Actually, batching mesh would be more efficient

Same reason as squares into grids

[silver junco]

changing density to 1.0/4.0 brought up fps a bit to 3k

makes the grass go further but looks worse closeby

[naive moth]

last minute issue

were sooo dead

[silver junco]

[quick cliff]

[silver junco]

you should be able to submit late if its not too late

[quick cliff]

The arguments for batching in LoDs keep on coming
-# Teasing aside, it seems like you'll find a solution

[silver junco]

im just wonderignhow ill even do that

it is possible to do multiple baldes at the same instance cuz its generated int he shader, i would need to make the density variable then tho

[quick cliff]

I got a sequence I like to use, downside is that it isn't the fastest
nvm that's the inversed version

I like to use the triangle numbers

It backs off slower than exponential and that is easy to calculate distance from density. (if it is the other way then yeah that is slow)

[silver junco]

i am using the triangle numbers already for something else in the shader

float id = float(gl_InstanceID);
float y = floor(sqrt(id));
float x = (id - y*y) - y;

because the first row needs 1 grass, the 2nd one needs 3 grass, the 3rd row needs 5 grass

[quick cliff]

I'd just do inverse_triangle(rows/multiplier) for density

probably floored to not deal with rounding

[silver junco]

i tried some shit, didnt really work

lemme try a diffrent aproach

[naive moth]

why do I have 180 fps on our linux build and 250 fps on our window build under wine

[trail parrot]

https://voidbois.itch.io/procrastinated due to some last minute shenanigans

we are now on another page

my stress levels are sky high!

[silver junco]

[naive moth]

-# aka how a free() instead of queue_free() broke our game and made us struggle for an hour trying to fix it

[trail parrot]

-# i will destroooooy the people who came up with indentation in language

[naive moth]

-# yes that too

[silver junco]

ah yes, freeing stuff. something i dont do

[silver junco]

why? indentation is good for readability?

as long as its not indentation dependant

[trail parrot]

ide kept breaking it

[silver junco]

[trail parrot]

aka how this game breaking bug came about

[naive moth]

-# gd script is identation dependant

[trail parrot]

one wittle indentation

[silver junco]

[trail parrot]

steals all ze fps

[naive moth]

was it the indentation or the free that broke our build ?

[trail parrot]

hmm

I can't say?

[naive moth]

[trail ridge]

answer is

[trail parrot]

you should see our chat when we found the bug

[trail parrot]

git blame revealed, that it was indeed partially my fault

[naive moth]

well no bc I cannot reproduce the issue anymore in any of the previous git commit ? but still we both had it ???

its just weird ?

[silver junco]

are you streaming rn?

[naive moth]

nah why

[silver junco]

i thought you had streamer mode on cuz of the shortened names

P...

[naive moth]

oh I have streamer mod bc I do have obs open bc I recorded a lot of the issues I found with obs

[silver junco]

due to the render order looking in 1 direction gives 700 more fps

the density nearby is still not how i like but its at least at 4k fps now when looking in the right direction

[naive moth]

[misty spruce]

Game jam over, good job everyone

[split yoke]

I wonder if that would be at least 40 fps for me

[misty spruce]

jammers send me the link of your works, lemme play them

[pine mortar]

i'm gonna play lusks and phantas games in the evening, i still need to sleep for a bit, if anyone else submitted their games, i will also play them

btw, here is mine:

https://itch.io/jam/shovel-jam-2025/rate/3737968

[misty spruce]

dangit now i have another addiction

[misty spruce]

theres a stream for playing shovel jam

[pine mortar]

hey Phantasmal, is there a some final wave or it's just survive for how long you can?

[misty spruce]

hope you had fun with the thing i made empty

i played scuttle and it was extremely fun

the most fun i had was baiting the bugs to chase me into the trap

[pine mortar]

yeah, i specifically made it so dragonflies can trigger them as well

your game was awesome as well, art was perfect and gameplay was very fun and it was nice to find units combinations, i personally liked defence comp of demon lord, lich and slime

i also didn't expect second phase of final boss, good stuff

today i only rated 5 games so far, hopefully i will be able to rate more tomorrow

[misty spruce]

i made sure to input you guys game to the roulette

[trail parrot]

There is a final wavr

[silver junco]

join jam

still had tyhis tab open apparently

[naive moth]

we actually made a boss this time !
(well that was like my biggest contributiion )

[pine mortar]

hmm, i didn't go past wave 5, i'll play again today, anyway good job guys, your game is great

i like how all enemies fit motif of your game so well

[trail parrot]

Thank you!

[pine mortar]

Out of curiosity, did those stutters and freeze happen during world generation or during gameplay?

Though to be fair there could be more optimisations in my game (which sadly implementation has no place in game jam timeframe)

[trail parrot]

during gameplay

how would I tell if they happened during world gen

[trail parrot]

we have some optimizing to do as well CerberCozy

[pine mortar]

hb @silver junco

[silver junco]

Thanks

[trail parrot]

Happy birthday!

[undone karma]

Happy birthday!

[split yoke]

Congratulations on spinning around the sun once more

[silver junco]

https://tenor.com/view/vanbiz-vanbiztherapper-vanillabizcotti-gif-27541622

[misty spruce]

happy birthday dude

[naive moth]

We recommend not playing the web version and disable anti aliasing to reduce shutter

Happy birthday!!!

[vapid trail]

should we try and participate in gmtk?

[silver junco]

damn this shader was really really long

new shader is pretty good imo

its a diffrent aproach

last one was camera to world, now im doing world to camera

[split yoke]

Is it as good as PirateSoftware's ray tracing tho

[silver junco]

damn, i forgot to loop over every single pixel for no reason

uncharted 4 has some cool hair gravity code

i keep mixing up the names

[undone karma]

Tried to played @pine mortar 's game
Instantly got eaten by a grasshopper

But it's actually really cool

I got max food (entire bar), put in a little extra beyond that, and hid in the hole when the ash came but still died. Am I doing something wrong?

Somehow feels scarier than previous games (trap jumpscare and grasshoppper drones) the island feels like both a familiar and an alien environemnt. Could use a bit more ambience maybe but this minimalism works great too becasue all the sounds are meaningful

[pine mortar]

huh, thats peculiar, after you get 10 food and hide in the burrow, you were supposed to get screen saying you survived ;d

i also wanted to add some ambience though sadly I didn't have time for it

[undone karma]

Maybe I got 11 food and the check was for if food == 10

The concept was still awesome though, I had fun (outside of the one time I stepped on a trap and it scared the hell out of me xddd)

[pine mortar]

XDDD

YOU ARE RIGHT

well, this is ending screen so you didn't miss much

such a newbie mistake xd

anyway thanks for playing, glad you liked it!

[undone karma]

Nah, don't worry x"D it's a game jam and the only way to really avoid stuff like this is to make the mistake a billion times first haha

[pine mortar]

well, still happy there weren't any other major gamebreaking bugs

[undone karma]

Outside of the bugs that tried to eat me (and succeeded )

[pine mortar]

also surprised that during my tests so far world generation didn't fail like it did many times during development and i don't know why it works well now

[undone karma]

I feel that, it's kind of scary when a bug just disappears. Like... "why did that even happen... and is it going to come back"

[undone karma]

https://youtu.be/1zlmoas2U84

I made a video with some game jam advice !! also includes some of my experience with the first Neurojam

[pine mortar]

Very cool introduction video for gamejams!

2/3? You meant on last day?

Also I've noticed that thumbnails are extremely important and I don't mean having one at all, but i mean it should be as high quality as it can be and it should be really eye-catching to be noticed within 1k of other games

[undone karma]

That's true, great advice. Technically it doesn't cause the game to get ranked higher but if you want literally anybody to notice it then it better have a BIG EYE CATCHING CHARACTER or something I think

I'll probably try doing that with future jams too

[pine mortar]

yeah, usually title (in cool font or drawn) + character/main focus of game + high contrast works best i think

[split yoke]

They have to be playable??

[pine mortar]

it seems we gotta job

[quick cliff]

Depends on who wants to do Neuro SDK support

[wicked escarp]

i want to do neuro sdk support for stuff.. i just lack creativity on what games or things make sense to add it to

[quick cliff]

rhythm

That has plenty of issues

[wicked escarp]

maybe bloons... tho not sure you can mod that game since its online..

[quick cliff]

btd, Honestly seems like a pain to get placement working. Famously not grid based

[wicked escarp]

well.. you could just make it grid locations for neuro to pick from

[quick cliff]

The newest does have a modloader

[wicked escarp]

like place dart tower at a5 or something idk

[quick cliff]

most people make alts when using it because of online

[quick cliff]

Maybe, Would have to pick a grid that deals with tower sizes correctly

[wicked escarp]

but anyway... if someone wants to make a project and needs help i can help out in any programming language

[quick cliff]

-# I'm not mentioning the engineer's existance

[wicked escarp]

my game that im currently working is likely also gonna have neuro-sdk support (once its further along)

[quick cliff]

Current project isn't worth the time investment to add it. Story based and all.

Granted how I want to do it does have some strategy but still don't see it being worth it.

[misty spruce]

i dont think neurowars is capable of sdk support

[wicked escarp]

alright.. so i just went through my steam library and tried to find possible games that could be good targets for modding:

modable and possible good:
- loop hero
- Peglin
- Ring Of Pain
- Pawnbarian

needs creative integration but should be possible:
- OneShot (the world machine edition to be exact)
- the Gnorp Apologue (idk if modable)
- Undertale (if oneshot works. surely Undertale too)
- The Last Spell
- DREDGE (idk haven't played the game yet)

multiplayer so maybe not possible:
- bloons tower defense
- shellshock

i also noticed a severe lack of turn based games in my steam library

[viral nacelle]

if you want other propositions there is a shotgun king: the final checkmate (to be true i even planned to do it)
plus Talented (this is harder but also possible, hade some realtime elements, but very easy to automate, but dont know what mode support it had)

[wicked escarp]

shotgun king seems similar in difficulty to implement like Pawnbarian.
talented does seem more difficult but also possible.
but... i don't own either so i can't really do it rn

[naive moth]

is my gpu cooked

[wicked escarp]

is that a font?

[naive moth]

no its my gpu

[wicked escarp]

[naive moth]

seems to panic post sleep sometimes? nothing a restart can't fix

[split yoke]

get.tree ❌
yet thee ✅

made a dialogue ui thing but it needs some (a lot) polishing
now I can finally start making my 400 lines long array of magic numbers for dialogues

[ivory lodge]

unrelated, at what point would get_tree() return null

[wicked escarp]

Pretty sure if its not in the scene anymore. Like if you call remove_child and such.

[ivory lodge]

ah that does make sense

[pine mortar]

I see that your game was played on stream Lusk, thats cool!

[trail parrot]

BOOM

[quick cliff]

We love magic number arrays. Not my preferred approach, but it is a choice.

[naive moth]

idk I'm not the one that made the code initially

[naive moth]

oh fair likely that

[split yoke]

I was fixing one bug with dialogues and got another one instead but it's kind of an interesting change so I'd like to hear opinions abt it. So basically what happens is that whenever there's a corner right in front of player, they can jump from it mid-air. Previously it used to add velocity to the direction of player's input (so the corner jump happens either to the left or right), but now it only applies that velocity when the jump button is released.
Pros:

• Player is able to cornerjump straight up (I can just add that to regular cornerjump tho)
• Allows for unique prescision gameplay where player has to release jump not too early and not too late to get enough momentum both upwards and to the side
  Cons:
• Currently it's impossible to change movement direction mid-air (except for dashing but that requires energy) and this bug kinda goes against that idea

[undone karma]

Hmm... it depends on what kind of game you want to make, you can also look into how other platformers solved it

By the way!!!!
Important; I was chatting with Vani the Admin, they said that if you have a game with Neuro SDK support you can DM them

[split yoke]

I'm not sure if I know any platformers with such things tbh

at least from the platformers I've played and can think of, the only one that didn't let player change movement direction mid-air is uh, Geometry Dash (even then, only regular levels and not platformer levels)

[undone karma]

I'm worried this will get buried so I'm posting it again tomorrow lol

[undone karma]

Also ping to @trail sun , tell them super sent you if you end up messaging Vani

[thick totem]

Hm, I think I might add SDK support for my old Evil birthday game too

[pine mortar]

i might do something about that

[undone karma]

The Neuro model looks sick

[kindred bone]

Jump king is a platformer where you can't change directions mid-air and you can't even dash.

[split yoke]

I haven't played that one unfortunately (or maybe fortunately idk)

Is the the one with very punishing falls?

Like you fall a very long way down

[kindred bone]

Yes, it's a rage game

[split yoke]

Ah, well that's not really what I'm going for here

I did figure out what to do with that tho

[misty spruce]

I believe celeste is the current game that best suits "platformer", incase you guys are looking

[wicked escarp]

are there any turn-based games like jrpg's or expedition 33 with neuro integration. i got an idea i might try to get working this week.

[split yoke]

Yeah I've played that one a bit recently

I am taking some ideas from it
But Celeste lets the player defy inertia so it doesn't rly have the problem of "player starts moving mid-air is bad" cuz that is one of mechanics there

[pine mortar]

damn, we need to wait to saturday for gamejam results

[split yoke]

-# still faster than lava lamps

[misty spruce]

[undone karma]

Vedal talking about gamejam games and Neuro playing SDK games

Ofc he's worried about viruses or running random gamejam code so he's trying to figure stuff out

[pine mortar]

he doesn't trust us 😭 , he is too traumatised by Alex

[undone karma]

Alex and the Vedal breeder game... but that game was kino and it's his fault for playing it on stream for so long too (I don't really blame him I'd be tempted by the sheer quality)

[pine mortar]

i meant the time when Alex secretly gave Vedal script that opened VR chat xD

[undone karma]

Yeah I remember that x"D didn't Vedal also blame the Nekopara playtime on Alex's shady scripts? or did I halluciante it lmao

[pine mortar]

tbh i don't remember anymore, it was so long ago xd

[undone karma]

xddd

[kindred bone]

Not gonna lie, Neuro playing my breeding game would be peak, imagine her picking couples and trash talking children before deleting them, it has been like 6 months since then and I'm way better at art, programming and design.
I would only need to add the unique skills for each turtle and maybe a rogue like mode and then it's perfection.
Hanakyo played my game on stream recently btw.

[split yoke]

2:38 AM and I just now finished fixing all the bugs that happened simply because I wanted to change jumping a little bit...

[primal eagle]

Quick neuro api docs update, check changelog

[ivory lodge]

I recently scrapped sdk support for my game since it didn't really fit well 😭
-# (even though the entire point of the game was to make an sdk follow-up to my jam game)

[wicked escarp]

why didn't it really fit?

im sure you can cheat a little to make it work

[ivory lodge]

I kinda didn't give neuro integration the time it deserved so it was kinda left in the dust while I worked on everything else

the game quickly outgrew it

as did the scope

[pine mortar]

it's tomorrow

[split yoke]

I can't really imagine how'd sdk work in my game but it's not entirely impossible ig

[floral oasis]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Pi63iUefz8

[pine mortar]

this years gmtk theme is "loop", now what to make...

wait, now that i think about it, this theme is awesome, i have few ideas now

[trail parrot]

good luck with gmtk bois

I'm not joining in myself because just finished shovel jam

and don't have mental energy for another jam

[misty spruce]

Take care of ye self phanta, you already cooked really hard with procastination

[misty spruce]

you too empty, scuttle was based as fck

[kindred bone]

Wise decision

[trail parrot]

can't wait to make this devlog

[pine mortar]

the crown looks pretty sick

[split yoke]

It's so fun to be stuck at completely random bug where everything is fine for one object but breaks completely for exactly same object and attempts to fix it for multiple hours just escalate the issue...

[split yoke]

3:20 am and it's working (???) but there's a bajillion new bugs

[trail parrot]

30,000 frames...

-# chat I might be a little cooked

[wicked escarp]

why is it 30,000 frames long... split it into multiple files

[trail parrot]

21 minutes of us yapping

(edited down)

[trail parrot]

blocked out 1700 frames, or about 5.6 percent of the total thus far

[trail parrot]

9 frames left (91/100)

[quick cliff]

https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1400738589519646831

Seems like they want to do game jam games, this'll be interesting.

[split yoke]

That looks so cool

[split yoke]

Fixed the bugs so I almost finally can start working on the levels themselves

[trail parrot]

https://youtu.be/kXq4UFFhrJU

[misty spruce]

@trail parrot @pine mortar

gamejam score announcing soon

[pine mortar]

i know

gl

[misty spruce]

[pine mortar]

though, you prolly won't need it it

wait, are results after video ends

damn

[trail parrot]

Am here

[pine mortar]

pog, i am in the video

lusk

[pine mortar]

well, while i didn't get into 100, let's say that this was still my best score so far

[trail parrot]

Congratulations lusk

[split yoke]

Idk what scores yall got but congrats to everyone

[pine mortar]

damn, i hope that i will manage to somewhat finish my game today

[pine mortar]

i kind of wasted one whole day on doing something i didn't even implement and now my game is kinda barebones and now i look at other submissions and i already know im cooked

[wicked escarp]

[misty spruce]

Yo

Imma curse you guys real quick

[wicked escarp]

this took wayyy too long (like 2 hours). converting the godot neuro sdk from 4.x to 3.6 is pain and i don't think it fully works yet, but just getting connected was a pain.

[ivory lodge]

3.x

[wicked escarp]

it just got worse... it worked fine in the editor. but.. actually loading the mod in the game showed me that you aren't allowed to have any ANY kind of custom classes

[ivory lodge]

loading a full path and not storing it every time you need it is crazy 😭

[wicked escarp]

i could refactor it and have a var exceptionresult at the top of this class but this is the only file that uses the same thing multiple times. so not sure how useful it would be.

i just wanted to get it running and hey... atleast it works now

once i get it somewhat working with some actions i will refactor / release the source code and make a proper thread for the integration

im actually not sure if load() caches automatically or if it actually loads and parses the whole file each time

[primal eagle]

oh god, good luck mate

i had a really annoying time with godot

i fixed it somehow and was able to use classes but i dont remember how

[wicked escarp]

it works now

[primal eagle]

actualy i think what i did was i gave up on using the whatever mod loader and instead just rebuilt the game with my own code directly in it

[wicked escarp]

i basically just need to preload the files itself. i can then just use it as if its classes

im so far that it can now technically get into a game. using gary and qwen3:4b for it.
so far the actions are: get_info (to get current info for either character or weapns etc.) and select_thing ( for selecting)

i think its probably at a point where i can make a proper thread for it. since i have something to showcase and a clear vision on how it will work

[wicked escarp]

well. can't really do that for brotato the modloader isn't really the issue its more that godot 3.6 is just trash in handling gdscripts. you can't register autoloads at runtime and they can actually have cyclic dependencies if you use them.
and also generally classes are just not registered at all for mods so you can't use them in any way you have to reference the file itself.. thats why i have load(....) everywhere

[wicked escarp]

made a thread for it now and uploaded the mod to github #1402356040661733417 message

[thick totem]

gosh, took a few karaoke streams, but forced some SDK support to my game from last year

[split yoke]

Just now starting to make the pause menu

[split yoke]

Btw, any tips on how & where to advertise the game? I'm kinda halfway into making the demo and I probably should start taking actions so that there's more than 5 people who even see it when I'm done

[kindred bone]

Advertisement only works for companies that have a lot of money and can put ads everywhere to fake relevance, most people don't like ads actually.

If you want to have people that play your game you could do two things: Have a community of people that care about what you make or make a game that people want to play.

It also matters a lot where you publish the game, If it's itchio you heavily rely on the algorithm, using good tags is a game changer (and having a nice page for the game).
People will surely judge the book by its cover.

Basically you should focus on the marketing side of the game if you want a lot of players, but most of it happens before you create the game.

I guess you could also use a bit of clickbait, those are pretty effective if used well.
Just presenting your game isn't enough, you need to give a reason for the player to care.

[misty spruce]

I would like to apologize early

I have drawn something and will be posting it soon

[silver junco]

wdym you would like to apologize early?

[misty spruce]

[misty spruce]

Sent it to fanarts

[pine mortar]

i have brilliant idea, make a paid game on steam, give vedal free copy with neuro integration, neuro plays it terribly on stream and it causes hundreds of people to buy it so that they can play it better

just like those ragebait ads for mobile games

[wicked escarp]

don't spoil my plan

[split yoke]

Plot twist neuro plays the game flawlessly

[quick cliff]

No no, make it so your teasing another ending and have neuro only pick one. (Vedal won't bother having her replay a story based game)

[misty spruce]

Currently cooking something

[silver junco]

I have become a linux user

Just to get that extra fps

[thick totem]

you need to go deeper
ditch the OS, write for barebone hardware

[misty spruce]

I have completed the draft

Holy shit a lot of markers and pens are gonna die

[undone karma]

Toma: Ball mech!

[misty spruce]

I already went with boxer

[undone karma]

Ehh fair enough

[misty spruce]

goodluck guessing whose mechs are whose again

[silver junco]

i still need a window manager lmao

[misty spruce]

Evl sub

[wraith flower]

When you pass hours debugging but the solution was to restart the editor

[dry surge]

Does anyone know how to code a minecraft plugin?

[dry surge]

@hollow jay ?

[hollow jay]

?

[naive moth]

-# Hiiiii I do. You need help for one ?
likely more relevant to ask on #programming than here too btw

[misty spruce]

Progress on the art

[dry surge]

I love Metal Slug

[pine mortar]

i wonder which theme will be picked for next brackeys game jam

i hope that it will be either collection, uncharted territory or celebration

[misty spruce]

Finally finished drawing the piece

[silver junco]

we've been doing some cursed stuff in #programming

we have reached the peaks of fps never seen before in neurocord

124130 FPS

[trail parrot]

za angel v2

(ignore the poly count, I have yet to retopo the body)

[silver junco]

200k polys is fine, ive seen a lot worse

maybe not the best for the browser tho

[trail parrot]

yeah but the body really does not need 184k tris

[silver junco]

that was a bug apparently, our max is 50K now on linux

[trail parrot]

-170k tris

retopology kinda done

I just need to connect all the bits and pieces into one mesh

[trail parrot]

I was worried that I'd have to spend even more time optimizing the mesh, but thankfully the 8k tris came from the curves which were easy enough to drop. Now 30k tris!

[trail parrot]

annnnd she's rigged

[pine mortar]

really cool seraph-like design btw

[trail parrot]

thanks

[silver junco]

248 bones

thats more than i have

[pine mortar]

lusk, your art was so good it crashed a stream

[misty spruce]

It did what?????

[trail parrot]

oh wait wrong channel

-# still half relevant

[naive moth]

I did an oopsy

[vapid trail]

Ima ask this here cause its less likely to disappear compared to programming. do any godot users know if/how this can be resized, or do i have to make my own version of it?

[ivory lodge]

you should be able to use theme overrides to customize it, not sure how much can be changed though

the node options customize what features of the color picker are available

then the theme should be able to help you make it look the way you want

[vapid trail]

I had to turn off color mode visible to actually get the width down to where I wanted it but it should be better now.(my WiFi is dead for some reason so that’s why it’s not a screenshot this time)

Ignore how bad the resolution of my monitor is

[split yoke]

after over a week of procrastinating and with like a few days till the deadline I've set for myself, I finally decided to keep working on the game
tbh rn I just need to do some art (which I suck at) and design the level (which I also suck at) and the demo should be done

[split yoke]

I have "fixed" this bug like 3 times today
it still keeps coming back, and I have less and less idea of why

-# ig that might not be obvious from the image, the issue is that the player is somehow getting stuck in the floor

[misty spruce]

Is this perhaps a 2d platformer

[split yoke]

Yup

[misty spruce]

If it somehow involves crouching that might be an issue with it

Mainly if crouching makes the hotbox shorter by cutting the lower part of a standing hotbox instead of the upper part

It's basically what happened to me when I was making a metal slug game so maybe, not sure if that's the issue tho

If that's not the issue maybe it has something to do with falling into the platform?

[split yoke]

I was gonna spend today buying the first level
But I've spent more time fixing and completely remaking crouching
cuz I was so smart to make no crouching height to be slightly less than 4 tiles and and crouching height to be slightly more than 3 tiles, so you could fit in 4 tiles regardless but couldn't in 3

But no that wasn't the issue in this case, player just somehow got stuck in the floor when loading into this checkpoint

[misty spruce]

Then maybe the checkpoint is too low into the ground?

[split yoke]

Was just gonna say it wasn't the issue cuz I even moved it a few pixels in air

I honestly have no idea what was the issue, but deleting and re-adding the scene helped

[misty spruce]

[split yoke]

Also in Godot the collision box just changes size from both sides I think

At least the way I found to make it

Which caused some issues too, mainly in how to move all the other stuff around it

[split yoke]

So now crouching mid-air looks like this

[vapid trail]

I made a funny godot project where the bit is that I add completely random things and features. so far i have a small mars. what should I add to it next?

[wraith flower]

Soon I will have to do a project with only programmers and designers, no artist/animators/vfx people. We do have some budget to buy assets but I don't want to 100% rely on them, I would like to do what I can without relying only on external assets. Does anyone have a recommendation of a skill outside programming that's nice to have and that I can learn in less than 1 month in these situations?

[pine mortar]

maybe learn modelling in blender?

for me, modelling is easier than drawing

and blender is nice free software, though you may need to watch few tutorials

[wraith flower]

I made the infamous donut in the past so I think I can make some rocks or boxes but anything more sounds hard, like for more detailed stuff I would need to make the textures and UV mappings, if I want to make characters I would need to learn topology, rigging and animation

so yeah I kinda threw blender out of the window

[kindred bone]

Add a space shooter ship

[kindred bone]

-Maybe learn how to do shaders.
-If you already know that then learning about sound effects is always good (and equalizing them with audacity).
-Game design is key, try to master that skill if you can: What is actually fun about the game? Where's the appeal? Do people actually want this?
-Analyzing data is actually pretty useful too, browsing successes and failures on steam can tell a lot about the current state of the industry (I recommend steamdb).
-Learning how to draw cat girls is an essential skill for game dev also.

[wraith flower]

[undone karma]

I'm making a trailer for Sea of Memories I mean Heroes Against Time
https://youtu.be/pQp7HH5BvZw

Current work in progress version

[pine mortar]

oh damn, looks way better than when i last looked at it

seems way more polished

[misty spruce]

It looks so gooood

[split yoke]

Add small milky way and make them both eatable

[vapid trail]

Am working on eating mars, idk how id get a map of or display the milky way though. I also don't want to ignore the other request I had but I sleep for now.

[split yoke]

Spore has a map of milky way idk how they got it tho

[vapid trail]

there we go its the proper file this time.

[vapid trail]

I sleep now but.

next thing Im going to add is shooting of some sort

[split yoke]

Eating Mars makes you get Phobos and Deimos in your inventory which you can throw xd

[thick totem]

Took some time, but I think I've finished adding Neuro SDK support to my old game

The bot is brute forcing through it right now

[split yoke]

Noway, I just wanted to see if there's anything new here and thread got new message right as I opened server

[thick totem]

I think it works now

had to fix stuff like the bot taking out cookie cards from Nuro's hand right before she takes a bite

[pine mortar]

guys, what do you think, for the next two Scream Jam game jams should i work first on game called Ash Pit or Skrunknapper

[undone karma]

Ash Pit

but only because I made a game called Oil Pit once and that's kind of a similar name

<=== Biased

[pine mortar]

good answer since i already started making that one ;D

for this project ill try out cellshading + dithering and i like this effect so far

[undone karma]

I DID IT! Heroes Against Time is out! I published my game from the Neuro Sama jam on Steam

It's so ridiculous that Time God which started as a Neuro Sama reference became the final boss

[naive moth]

congrats !!!!!!!

[pine mortar]

published own game before abandoned archive

congrats!

[silver junco]

abandoned archive, more like abandoned game

[undone karma]

Idk Vedal said Abandoned Archive is releasing in 2025... I believe !!!

[silver junco]

31st of december 2025 at 11.59 pm

[quick cliff]

he'll miss it and it goes on the 1st of january at 12:00 am

[split yoke]

No no it will just be in -12 timezone so technically still December somewhere

[misty spruce]

congratzzz superbot

[split yoke]

making a game for a gamejam where u have to draw eggs, might've slightly underestimated how hard it is to do details like that XD

[split yoke]

I may have underestimated time limits, again

[undone karma]

..."originally born from the Neuro sama game jam"

https://x.com/gamespark/status/1969612602100891805

⚡Game*Spark⚡ (@gamespark)

「元々、AI VtuberのNeuro-samaが主催したゲームジャムで誕生」冒険隊ローグライク『Heroes Against Time』【開発者インタビュー】
https://t.co/WNW8XOh7do

X · Sep 21, 2025, 4:00 AM

[hollow jay]

whaaaaaaaat

[thick totem]

ナイス

[split yoke]

actually I might finish it in time
8 hours left to do some gameplay and win/lose conditions...

[split yoke]

somehow I managed to do this almost in time xd

[split yoke]

in the end it looks like this
good enough ig

[cerulean willow]

[split yoke]

[pine mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/buh-gif-14465458220549268962

just refreshing thread so it shows up

anyway SCREAM JAM in 8 days pog

[silver junco]

[naive moth]

Hi ! For ppl who did not get the message:
If you made an unity game please check your mail and fix your unity game if any

https://unity.com/security/sept-2025-01/remediation

[kindred bone]

Common unity L

[pine mortar]

classic unity

[quick cliff]

Yep, got it due to downloading it once for VRC

[split yoke]

I got the email but I've switched to Godot already and also don't have much made on Unity anyways

[naive moth]

talking about VRC
vrchat avi & world creation are not impacted by the security issue as you don't compile an app

[pine mortar]

man, why is art for game dev so hard

[kindred bone]

Because art in general is hard, if you want to make things easier think about geometric shapes and math. Symmetry makes things look good.
I guess you could ask the artist here some tips, but learning will take a lot of time. You can reduce a lot of that time required by drawing cat girls since they improve productivity.

[pine mortar]

can i instead just kidnap some artist, chuck them into basement and have them make art for me? Does anybody know any good artist spawn points?

[kindred bone]

Yeah, I know the spawn point, you only need to get a woman pregnant, then you can teach your child how to draw.

[split yoke]

Unfortunately, locking people up in a basement is usually illegal.

Good thing AI doesn't have same rights yet. However it usually kinda sucks plus people will hate on you for using it.

[pine mortar]

what do you mean, it sounds to me like free accommodation

i would even feed them sometimes

[old yoke]

I am actually looking forward to playing that.

[silver junco]

I bet 10 bucks its gonna be 2026 or later

[trail parrot]

another character kinda done

I need to make swords for her

or a sledgehammer

I haven't decided which yet

might do a witch variation later on

[split yoke]

The question is, will it be faster than lava lamps or not? Surely they won't be delayed again

Maybe the app for lava lamps actually is Abandoned Archive

[trail parrot]

swoooord

the bad rig loses some aura

[silver junco]

Im beginning to notice a patern in your character designs

[trail parrot]

evilGiggle

[silver junco]

From what ive seen so far, its mostly monster woman with questionable proportions

[trail parrot]

you're not wrong, I do love my monster girls

I try to keep them interesting

which usually means messing around with proportions, body parts, or all of the above

[split yoke]

Not sure why but this made me think of Scylla animtic by gigi

[pine mortar]

i wonder whether i will be able to submit something to this game jam

i didn't end up submitting my game to last one, but oh well, at least it looked kinda cool

oh, i guess you can't upload short video formats here

oh well

[kindred bone]

Good luck

[kindred bone]

Based, monster girls are great, I like your designs. I draw them too but not with horror like you.

[trail parrot]

level design feels hard

I want to set my game in a giant underground complex

there are some challenges with that

like, there's no sun, so how do I set up lighting?

I could have giant lights shining down

or I could have lights scattered across surfaces

or I could just leave areas unlit, which could be cool for horror/exploration

there's also the whole engineering aspect of creating big underground spaces like these

Like, using curved dome roofs for structural integrity

pillars

arches

etc

[split yoke]

Aperture Science style?

[trail parrot]

no, aperture science is more... well, "sciency", whereas I want mine to be brutalistic, industrial

[split yoke]

Flashlight with batteries

[split yoke]

So like an SCP site

[trail parrot]

oh, yeah

that's pretty similar

[trail parrot]

huh, tried to get a trypophobia effect by adding holes to normals, got dither effect instead

tbf, only because of the cel shader

yep, that's what I was going for, and I hate it

[split yoke]

Congratulations on discovering ditherphobia

[trail parrot]

I can stack layers of it to get this fractal effect

[split yoke]

Looks like it has a carpet instead of the skin

[ivory lodge]

that's a fascinating effect, what's the shader doing to make that happen?

[trail parrot]

Hexagon tiling circles plugged into a bump to create normals for a diffuse, which is then turned into a 2 tone cel shader

[silver junco]

i can mostly understand what you're saying, but to a non-graphics person that sentence is fully giberish

[trail parrot]

also, more intentional dither

[trail parrot]

CerberLUL

[silver junco]

bro needs some pants

[trail parrot]

I'm having too much fun with hexagonal tiling

[silver junco]

now it jsut looks like he's wearing armor

makes me think of black panther

[trail parrot]

makes sense

[naive moth]

made chainmail armor

also huh

[split yoke]

not fully, I know what hexagons and circles are

[ivory lodge]

sometimes happens when you edit and save scripts while the game is still running

that's when I've encountered it, at least

[golden abyss]

Bioluminescent Moss

[misty spruce]

after an entire month of procrastination i think i can finally work on neurowars again

i have a shit ton of ideas and stuff, changed up a bit of the mission format and decided to have 1 dedicated campaign with 25sh missions

[split yoke]

Any progress on gamedeving from anybody?

[naive moth]

Had progress Refactoring some system then procrastinated

[golden abyss]

I've been posting regular updates in the projects channel

[robust fiber]

You have unlocked new role

[silver junco]

We're doing a long-term project so yes, but not really anything to show

I made a bass

[golden abyss]

You could say it's the bass of your game's identity...

[silver junco]

Bruh

Its mainly just cuz im waiting on the characters to get finalized

So im making the stuff i know we'll need first

[kindred bone]

I finished developing a game last week, now I'm moving on to the next one

[serene sentinel]

I'm learning game design in school, have to come up with a game prototype and probably going to add a bunch of Nwero references

[split yoke]

Adding nuro references sounds like a great idea

[golden abyss]

I have spent the last 2 hours doing just this, development can be fun sometimes

[misty spruce]

Its not much but i added "neutral creeps" to neuro wars, enemies that give gold that are helpful for building up early game or give items/runes for the hero inventory

[misty spruce]

i only have a few right now because im still working on "what" creeps to add but her they are

i can use them as variety since the player will be fighting the same faction for the entire 25 missions

[split yoke]

Add a creep with radio on its head

[misty spruce]

[misty spruce]

also i have this, its still only a draft tho

[misty spruce]

heres a teaser on a level

it took sorta a long while to figure out how to do it but so far so good

[misty spruce]

heres the unit select tab, watcha guys think?

[pine mortar]

would be nice if there would be extra fancy frame/outline around the unit "cards", but so far looks good!

[misty spruce]

[misty spruce]

something like this?

[pine mortar]

yep, also around those smaller ones with unit cost on the right, but im not sure whether its feasible since it seems you don't have too much space there and would be probably annoying to resize those (unless there is prefab or something, i don't know how those things works in scratch)

[misty spruce]

i can probably make it work

something like this?

[pine mortar]

yep!

[misty spruce]

noice

[silver junco]

[pine mortar]

watching the dev stream i both kinda sympathise with vedal about game dev struggles, but at the same time i kind of feel better about my game dev skill

[golden abyss]

Pretty proud of how goofy this is

[misty spruce]

dude, i just realized the jump of storage neurowars got is crazy, V1 is gamejam and V8 is what im currently working on

[pine mortar]

huh, so i guess i have not been able to send files in discord due to some linux shenanigans

the more you know

[kindred bone]

The giant enemy spider

[pine mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/hampson-hamter-hampter-jeram-jerma-gif-26319646

[misty spruce]

progress

[vapid trail]

Now that I have little more free time , I'm messing around in my anything Project again. There are still a lot of systems I want to add (and refactor). I should probably make models as well but that would take away from the experimental nature of the project .

Next system I definitely need is spawning objects properly

[vapid trail]

Very helpful Godot

[white steeple]

waning!!!!

[hollow jay]

waing!!!!

[split yoke]

wain!!!

[pine mortar]

wa

[silver junco]

a

[split yoke]

Nooo skipped wan

[silver junco]

[misty spruce]

[vapid trail]

I still have a bug I need to fix, and the code is garbage, but Item pickup is kind of working . I already spent a day trying to write it again because I didn't like how the data was transferred before .(Its probably just as bad right now)

[vapid trail]

Truly the most useful of additions.

[quick cliff]

Rocket riding is a very important thing to have in any game with an RPG

[silver junco]

[cerulean willow]

wonder if therell be another jam comin around this year 👀

[pine mortar]

Of course there will be! It would be just silly if there wouldn't be this year!

[split yoke]

Plot twist it will be at eliv's bday instead

[golden abyss]

that would be...

pretty Evil.

CSI Miami theme blares as I take off a pair of sunglasses, revealing another pair of sunglasses

[cerulean willow]

dang, with the karaoke channel down, i might actually have to make myself a neuro karaoke player since i like listening to her covers

[narrow vortex]

boy do i have just the thing for you

come to the swarmfm side, we have cookies!

[silver junco]

hmmm?

[crystal flax]

YouTube channel?

[crystal flax]

Sorry

[silver junco]

no worries

[cerulean willow]

im interested, where do i find this

[narrow vortex]

ive dmed you the discord link as its less sus looking than the actual link lmao

[cerulean willow]

ty ty

[hollow jay]

we've (a certain group I haven't hinted at for a while) gotten something in store and ready to use for this purpose, we just need to do a couple touchups probably...

[cerulean willow]

nice, tell me more once its ready

[novel crest]

I be chatting here when I’m gonna make a game🙏

Be a few years

[hollow jay]

I wish I could really get back into game dev but I can't think of a good game concept or smth

[split yoke]

I wanna make a game and I have a cool idea I think but I suck at it unfortunately

[novel crest]

Write a book and make it into a game (this is my idea)

[split yoke]

Wouldn't that just be like
A visual novel
And not a good one cuz books usually don't have player choice in them

[novel crest]

Bro you have freedom of choice. You can DO ANYTHING. It doesn’t need to follow a straight line silky

[kindred bone]

I'm working on a game for a jam, I have 5 days of crunch ahead of me

[split yoke]

I meant like
A book doesn't have player's input
So turnin it into a game would be just a VN without player choice
Otherwise thas not turnin book into a game but rather makin a game somewhat based on the book
-# also not "bro" pls

[novel crest]

Dude do you not grasp the freedom of choice? You can do ANYTHING you are a GOD in terms of making your games. It is your world your rules. EVERYTHING IN IT IS YOURS you are the CREATOR. You don’t need to follow mental blocks. The book itself or any story in it can be turned into a game if you use your IMAGINATION

[split yoke]

-# Ig puttin this into profile is pointless and I should just change display name for it to work

[split yoke]

Imho there's a difference between turnin A into B and makin B based on A
In first case you're tryin to keep original, with the changes bein done only for the new form of media. For example, make a fan animation of fight in a game, make a movie from a book, etc., mostly keepin the original.
In second case you just take smth as your inspiration but change whatever u want. HTTYD movies and series are an example of such, they tell completely different story from the books, with only similarities bein names and the fact that there are vikings and dragons. A fangame could also be an example of such, like A Bandoned Rchive from last gamejam, obviously based on Vedal's upcomin game.

[novel crest]

Obviously? But I am just reminding you of the freedom of choice

[split yoke]

Obviously, but I was talkin abt different thing

[novel crest]

Yes

[cerulean willow]

ayy, A Bandoned Rchive mention spotted

[silver junco]

maybe time to post something here too

good amount of work has gone into the map

[vapid trail]

No fixes necessary.

[quick cliff]

This made me think of something stupid. Have a game implement fall damage only beyond the largest fall possible without bugs.

[vapid trail]

Punish the player for running into a bug

[quick cliff]

"The frick you mean there was fall damage???"

[silver junco]

then purpusfefully leave a bunch of exploits in the game to get up reeally high

but in a way where it has to be on purpose

[quick cliff]

Then you create more exploits to cancel/reset the fall damage

[vapid trail]

Mhm, pausing the game will set all velocities to zero, surely this won’t cause any issues.

[silver junco]

making the game state have any direct influence on the physics engine is a bad idea, and the people that do this should feel shame

[vapid trail]

But what about the bugs

[silver junco]

well you see

for a game where the whole point is bugs, its fine

i just got a bit too angry there for a seconds

[vapid trail]

A story driven game where you get different endings based on how many bugs you use, mhm.

[quick cliff]

[silver junco]

[vapid trail]

It was more tricky than I was expecting to make the fire particles velocity be based on the force the thrusters are applying. At least I got It

[wraith flower]

Blueprint is life
Blueprint is love

[split yoke]

But is it boom

[vapid trail]

I’m trying to go to sleep but I just keep thinking about the cursed things I’ve done in godot as well as all the cursed ways I can add more things.

[silver junco]

[silver junco]

https://tenor.com/view/blender-3d-model-modeling-spin-gif-27464124

[silver junco]

[split yoke]

But why is this a screenshot and not a gif of nonsensical spinnin and movin around that model

[silver junco]

I worked really hard on this model

Its not on the level of what Phantasmal is doing but its getting there

i do post some serious stuff every now and then

[pine mortar]

its so over

[fast wharf]

[silver junco]

i mean, if there is no game jam i wont have to worry about gettign my engine web ready in time

[trail parrot]

-# unofficial game jam?

CerberPeek

[silver junco]

i did say that last year huh, that if there was no game-jam id do an unnoficial one

[trail parrot]

[silver junco]

dont think i can make a game this year, but i could help with organizing maybe

i could try to make a game, but it would have to be in very limited scope cuz im busy with college and large scale projects

[quick cliff]

I'll also pitch in for organization, I doubt I'll be making a game

We'll see if there is an official one this year

Not sure if we can get away with doing any rewards for the winner tho

Looking at the jam creation page, it doesn't actually seem that hard to set it up. The toughest part is going to be doing admin on it.

and of course, figuring out what the theme should be

In Sam's place, might as well send off a poll early

[golden abyss]

who needs a game jam? make something purely for the joy of it

[quick cliff]

Multipule choice, pick all you agree with

[quick cliff]

I agree with that, however it is more fun to have everyone together

I didn't set that for a week fml

I'll be back in 10ish minutes

[trail parrot]

where poll

[quick cliff]

I set it for 24 hours so I need to not be rate limited to redo it

[trail parrot]

oh i see

what if I made it

-# i don't know how