Game Dev General

[misty spruce]

i wont debuff it incase you are worried

shock is really bad at dealing with the tank architype so thats fine

[swift flame]

It could probably cost a bit more mana at least, and maybe make it slightly more expensive as I think it's the cheapest right now

Also, with fireball at 3 now, if I cast spells in the right order I get the cooldown to exactly 0

[misty spruce]

yes

and if you mess up, your shuffle time can go up to max 30

before there wasnt a limit on how high the shuffle time can go so i had to change that

[swift flame]

I just tried the level 3 fireball on the dummy, and it makes level 2 fireball look completely pathetic

[misty spruce]

i know

but its risky cuz if you miss thats just a waste of a spell

[swift flame]

Not really. It also lowers cd

[misty spruce]

btw did you experience where you used a spell but it consumed a different spell and you can reuse the spell that you just used?

[swift flame]

Not that I've noticed. My attention is split between several things, so i'm still at the button mashing stage

[misty spruce]

black mage is all about chaotic game play, theres gonna be more playable characters in the future, but they are going to have completely different playstyles

oh yeah, if you want to try out the expensive spells, go for hail first, it costs less and explosion consumes all mana when casted (if you get the reference, you are my friend)

[swift flame]

It was the first thing I thought of

[misty spruce]

also i have to ask something, which piece do you hate the most fighting against?

[swift flame]

I noticed the characters design too btw

[misty spruce]

wasap with the design

[misty spruce]

i have a list of some of the most hated enemies to fight against

[silver junco]

[swift flame]

The ones that are harder to hit because of their move pattern. I find shock and firewave helpful for them at least

[swift flame]

Megumin

[misty spruce]

oh not which piece type, i was wondering which specific enemy was the most annoying to deal with?

[swift flame]

I don't know that yet as I still am a bit overwhelmed by the amount going on at once while also trying to figure out how the game works

[misty spruce]

gotcha sorry if it was ever too much to deal with

[swift flame]

I'm gonna actually play some more now though lol. It'll get easier to manage things with a few more games under my belt

[misty spruce]

cya, thx for playing it despite being really scuff

[swift flame]

No problem! It seems pretty well made, and I haven't noticed any bugs (yet )

[split yoke]

wow this is unusually high amount of new messages

[misty spruce]

also when you are done feel free to give me feedback on the game, doesnt matter whether its positive or not, i can use it to make the game better

[split yoke]

what are yall talking about?

[misty spruce]

nah its just me ranting about my work, you didnt miss much i think

[swift flame]

That's what happens when I exist

[misty spruce]

one of the games i made, just scroll up and you can see the vid and the link

[split yoke]

chess towers?

[misty spruce]

yep

it a dum name

[split yoke]

ill check it later if i don't forget

[split yoke]

i named my last music "spirit of the sky" with just some white circle on a blue-ish bg

[misty spruce]

also miffin, just asking, what do you think about the target dummy

[split yoke]

u r fine

i had like 0 idea what to do here visually tbh just a completely random name

[swift flame]

I assume that because you are asking, there's some sort of reference? It's a pawn with a target on its head, which kinda makes sense

Also I beat 19 with that run. It kinda devolved to potion and level 3 AOE spell spam after a couple levels

The levels started to take a while, and I learned that dashing can let me escape being surrounded. Also that the item limit is 50.

[swift flame]

As for this, I have a hunch it has to do with your spells moving to the left if you use a spell on the left. There were a few times where they moved to the left and cause me to use a spell I didn't want to, and even made me wait like 20 seconds because I ended up using my water bullets this way. I think that not having the spells shift to the left like that would make it much easier to focus on other things.

By the end I had more money than I knew what to do with, and I had all level 3 spells. 3 water bullets, 2 shocks, firewaves and icicles, and 2 or 3 fireballs.

Lastly, the ability to change keybindings would be nice. Particularly for dash and manual shuffle as then I could lessen the amount of buttons (10) that I have only 4 fingers for

Thank you for coming to my ted talk

[misty spruce]

Thx for playing man, hope you enjoyed it

[misty spruce]

Are there any issues or sort that seems pretty annoying?

[misty spruce]

and what do you feel is over and underpowered, stuff like that, i want to get as much feedback as i can get

[pine mortar]

man, godot path3d node is so useful and fun to play around

[misty spruce]

jump down and give him a hug

[pine mortar]

it's indeed quite cuddly

[silver junco]

lots of legs, more to love i guess?

[undone karma]

Presented Heroes Against Time and my main game in a physical event!! here's a player checking it out

[thick totem]

Also nice main game banner there

[undone karma]

Thank you! the organizers were kind enough to set these up and my cover artist helped and made the image fit the dimensions and CYMK file type for printing, he's a saint
That banner is like 2 meters tall (6.5 feet) and they let us keep them at the end

My main game got accepted last second, this was my first time ever doing anything like this asopasd

[white steeple]

omg

[misty spruce]

[floral oasis]

im considering working on a rpg maker game

my concept is:

• inside a hotel
• you get into your hotel room
• do stuff in hotel room before going outside
• outside
• neuro tricks you into breaking the jar by putting traps and obstacles on your way so you could only walk in that path
• neuro runs away with the cookies
• evil sees you "break" the cookie jar
• now you have to find neuro while escaping evil and her knife

inspired by

[undone karma]

Which genre of game is it? Horror? D:

[floral oasis]

simple rpg maker game where u have to escape evil while looking for neuro

[undone karma]

Sounds nice I'd be up to trying it out when it's done

[silver junco]

[trail parrot]

[floral oasis]

title screen beta

[floral oasis]

outside hotel (if u can call it that)

[undone karma]

CUTE

[undone karma]

Japanese localization !

[split yoke]

How many languages are u planning on having?

[undone karma]

Currently just doing Japanese, Simplified Chinese, Spanish and Russian but idk, I kind of want to add more languages in the future

[split yoke]

Oh that's cool

[thick totem]

Japanese? Too easy. But can you do European?
I really want to call my characters árvíztűrő, žluťoučký, małżonkę, tüfekçidir, and Београд

[undone karma]

Honestly Russian is kind of troublesome with the translation, the words are so long that I had to increase most of my buttons width by 25%

[thick totem]

Actual tip: Expect translations to be 1/3 larger on average

[undone karma]

Great tip honestly will keep it in mind for future stuff

[fading arch]

Low-effort thought: Hazelight style (e.g. It Takes Two, Split Fiction) Nuero + Eliv co-op game

Could have them adventuring in worlds themed around other streamers or something (collecting stream keys? ). The duo's different personalities would make asymmetric gameplay only natural.

Bottlenecks: Multiple worlds idea needs a ton of art assets. On the other hand, it would give concrete milestones for releases and/or killing the project.

Any creative ideas that would go well this description? Any issues you see with it?

[undone karma]

This reminds me of @grizzled umbra 's game last game jam tbh (though it was Neuro and Vedal instead of Neuro and Eliv and one person controlling both instead of co op)

Sounds like it could be a cool game

[grizzled umbra]

would love to see an evil+neuro co-op game tho

I have an extremely stupid but funny idea for a game as well, but it'd require voice acting from the trio (and possibly a few others as well)

it'd be easy to make too, but it'd also put my artistic skill to the test lmao

[undone karma]

Oooo sounds exciting

I could call it "Past Runs" or "History" or something... or I could have a sneaky abandoned archive reference...

[quick cliff]

If you don't have access to the archives they are abandoned

[split yoke]

Yeah russian has longer words on average from my experience, altho longer texts with same details would stay approximately the same.

But for single words it'd probably be longer

[split yoke]

Extra idea: since they've got an ability to call each other, that could be a feature of the game, like for example one opens a door for other and then just gets readded to the call like teleportation

And that ability could be earned somewhere mid game from Vadul.

[fading arch]

perma upgrades from vadul is BARS

[silver junco]

The mobile support dream is real

70-80 fps on snapdragon 870 tablet

its spending most of the time rendering a shadowmap that doesnt work in mobile for some reason tho, so ill probably just disable that for phone users

just need to add controls, and maybe fix the terrain also not rendering

[silver junco]

Terrain does seem to exist, just notvgetting heightmapped

[misty spruce]

increased the size of the screen, took a long ass time a lot more than expected

[misty spruce]

time to wait

[undone karma]

Thank you so much Lusk!!

I've been grinding my butt off to get the demo done

Drew some cutscenes today

[silver junco]

[misty spruce]

[quick cliff]

[undone karma]

Releasing the demo today

[undone karma]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3667720/

DEMO IS OUT

[ivory lodge]

just a neat little interactive title screen, nothing to see here... 👁️

[ivory lodge]

I downloaded it, I'll be sure to play tomorrow and let you know how it goes 👀

[undone karma]

Looking forward to your feedback

Also that main menu looks really cool, I love interactive main menus like that and weird little secrets in games, I think it adds a lot

[undone karma]

(Just fixed a massive issue with Linux, apologies to all my Linux gamers )

[undone karma]

I tried to make a Neuro palette by picking Neuro specific colors from a screenshot of her

It turned out incredibly cursed

[misty spruce]

Gamejam results came out, 8th place with 20 submissions

3rd in aesthetics

[undone karma]

Yippie!! show us those aesthetics pls

[misty spruce]

It looks like shit tho

https://ishinada.itch.io/de-infestation

Here's the game, I suggest playing on easy first, hard almost broke me

It's a rougelike strategy game

[misty spruce]

Feel free to try this dumpster fire whenever you'd like, feel free to tell me what you guys think about it, I'd like to get some feedback on it

[undone karma]

I reached the end and it got stuck

But

Honestly sick game, I can't believe all the player units are fully animated, extremely cool

[dry surge]

Has any programmer thought of making a Geoguesser api for neuro to move around, zoom in and submit a choice?

[misty spruce]

It didn't go back to the starting menu?

Because usually it goes back to the starting menu when you beat the final boss

[undone karma]

It just got stuck there I think. But the game is fun, I liked it a lot. I feel like the first few levels could be a bit longer since they were done in an instant for me

[undone karma]

That would be sick probably chaotic camera movement though like she had at some point in minecraft lmao

[misty spruce]

Easy mode?

[misty spruce]

Also looking at your deck, you went for a building specialist unit and a damage upgrade so I sorta expect that you can beat the early levels in a breeze

Hope you enjoyed it despite it being really scuff

[undone karma]

Yeah

I enjoyed it a bunch!! I think it's really cool

Animations are actually insane for a jam game

[undone karma]

That is fair, I got offered some great upgrades

[ivory lodge]

forgot to mention this earlier, and I can give more in depth feedback tomorrow if you want—but I wanted to let you know I sat down before bed and thought "this looks neat, I can play for a few minutes", then proceeded to play it for 80 minutes straight

the gameplay loop was excellently crafted. seriously well done

[undone karma]

Honestly, the best feedback I've ever gotten

[ivory lodge]

also, it worked perfectly on linux, thank you for your efforts 🫡

[undone karma]

(It was actually super broken on Linux until @thick totem helped me fix it but really glad to hear it works well now, what a relief)

[ivory lodge]

W shard

[undone karma]

W Shard

[misty spruce]

W Shard

[misty spruce]

are there any stuff that feel overpowered, under powered or any comments youd like to give?

[undone karma]

Hmm... the ball didn't feel like it was powerful enough for its cost, but it makes up for it in cool factor

[misty spruce]

oh that thing

[undone karma]

But maybe it's more of a thing against weak units than big ones

Maybe also due to my playstyle lmao

But generally things felt good and balanced, units reflected their cost well. Early AoE goes brrrr

[misty spruce]

that thing is busted on insane mode, it gains 90% dmg reduction while rolling

also if you have a certain upgrade, you can regenerate most dmg you take while rolling

[undone karma]

It also took me a while to realize I can put air units in every one of the four areas but that's mostly a me issue lmao
When playing, I wished there were hotkeys to select specific units but I didn't try to use hotkeys - also took me a while to realize miners were useful to buy

[misty spruce]

miner spam is pretty broken when you have the upgrade

this is the broken upgrade that pairs well with the rolling dude

also as for why i didnt use hotkeys

the game jam is called "keyboard-less jam" so thats self explanitory

[undone karma]

I got defeated in the final encounter lmao

But Hard mode is actually a ton of fun

[misty spruce]

Nice deck , seems you like cc alot

Also how was the new units you used in the game? Any comments on em both positive and negative are extremely useful for me

Also thx, can't believe you actually tried out hard, can I ask how was it?

[misty spruce]

btw from the looks of it you got all the units and upgrades except greed upgrade, so congrats on almost getting all of the cards

[undone karma]

Honestly I feel like the AoE echo unit I used from earlier was very useless in the start of hard mode lmao

Hard was honestly a ton of fun

But I felt like I needed to build more carefully

The siege missile unit is so fucking cool I love it

Also I think the unit costs are weird, like I think when hovering over the flying anti large unit (sentinel?) it said the cost would be 75 but its cost is 375 or something (latter is more fitting tbh)

[misty spruce]

the walking trashcan?

[undone karma]

The yellow one

it's great tbh

Very cost effective and gets its job done

[misty spruce]

[misty spruce]

the flying one that shoots missiles?

wait is it the one that fires sound waves?

[misty spruce]

alright i found the issue, fixed it immediately

[misty spruce]

i wasnt sure if you noticed but, you could see ranged units actually stopping to do their attacks, rather than just firing while slowly approaching on the harder difficulties

[undone karma]

Yeah, I think that's how my AoE unit got destroyed when I tried it at first

But yeah teh missile one

[misty spruce]

that thing is disturbingly good at taking out large and massive types

also may i ask, what you think about the balancing now that you have seen all of the units/upgrades?

also sorry if im overloading you with questions and stuff, its just that, i dont have any plans for the future of this game other than a couple of cleaning up bugs and 2 units + 5 upgrades that didnt make it, i want to learn as much as possible from this

false alarm, brain said 20 total units, notes said 15 total

[undone karma]

It depends, I think some units felt more or less relevant accoridng to the situation. AoE light unit was great at easy mode, same with borrowing light unit, but in hard they felt less relevant compared to the anti light tank

It's no issue xddd just a bit busy so slow replies

Also, game is good !!!

[misty spruce]

the vanguard that has great splash?

[misty spruce]

[undone karma]

Yeah I think

[misty spruce]

this guy?

[misty spruce]

tbh, the game has a massive love for "counter" types, the burrowing light unit can break walls which are extremely helpful at breaching defenses

also sentinels "purple poison fog" and boomflies "flying sound wave" are all about the "stall/slow" architype, boomflies give 20% more damage to all damage and a slow effect and knockback, and sentinels have poison (dmg over time), another slow effect (can be stacked) and knockback too, they also have the same weakness, rush units/high speed units

[undone karma]

No this guy is amazing, the smaller one with the circles

Yeah I love stalls

[misty spruce]

oh that one! it deals percent damage, so its really great in harder levels

the poison status effect is the percent damage, its attacks also deal damage normally

[undone karma]

I see 🤔 though it was very bad as a first unit on the first level of hard

[undone karma]

It's really cool to see you made them with Vector art, then converted to pixels

Through the engine or whatnot

[misty spruce]

[undone karma]

WHAT

I was looking at the units!

Pls repost xdd

Also it's interesting to see how they actually look in vectors, it's easy to miss out on the details in-game

Like for the flying missile unit

[misty spruce]

sorry thought it was boring/cringe

[misty spruce]

@undone karma yo dude, sorry for pinging, im gonna do a patch update and fix the issue with the end getting stuck and the type, sorry if you were playing

[undone karma]

It's based

Show off your cool stuff

And sounds good!

I'm off to be productive now but maybe I'll check it later

[misty spruce]

goodluck dude, productive time finally finished, time to play heroes against time

[misty spruce]

gg, awesome work as always

fun interaction i noticed, you can heal with the rune guard in ruins, because heal happens the rune guard delays fog, because delay fog happens, ice mage increases damage, pretty broken/op

[undone karma]

Yeah, it's maybe the most fun combo in the demo but there's some other fun broken combos you can make and discover here and there

[misty spruce]

[undone karma]

Also just fixed the palettes

Which were mega broken for a bit

[misty spruce]

i like red and the blue one

[undone karma]

🟥 🟦 3D glasses palette

xdx

I love how Enchanter looks in that one

[misty spruce]

I really like delay strats

[undone karma]

Me when the rune guard healer bard

[misty spruce]

oh

i go for paladin, rune guard, and berserker

[misty spruce]

Btw, superbot, mind telling me how to get the "join discord achievement"?

[split yoke]

Yoo the demo is out? I'll be checking it today

[undone karma]

I added a link in the palette page!

[undone karma]

I'm looking forward to you breaking the game!!! when another friend of mine played it, I told him about the "sergio strat" of leaving the final bossfight and returning to get more ATK haha

[misty spruce]

Btw superbot, have you tried hero, rune guard and ice mage combo?

It's stupid how hero + rune guard can almost Perma stall the fog

There's also the event where rune guard can delay the fog by 4 turns

[split yoke]

Is the logic pretty much the same as it was or are there new events/characters/etc?

[undone karma]

The characters and events are mostly different

[misty spruce]

I end up with glass Cannon 250+ HP with that combo and that combo usually has 40-60 hp

[undone karma]

That is nice, if you want to go for pure fog stalling Hero Healer Rune Guard is also broken but lacks scaling a bit haha

Wow that is crazy

The new version is meant to disable ATK only builds for the most part but I guess this one can stay

[split yoke]

That's nice, time to search for new broken strats

[split yoke]

welp that could've been better
looks interesting so far

[undone karma]

Wait

Is rogue literally cerber?

Well not literally but similar effect, I think she had the same effect now that I think about it lmao

[misty spruce]

dang

[misty spruce]

alright im genuinely confused right now, how does popularity work in itch again?

[cerulean willow]

tbh, not entirely sure. i think its kept somewhat vague on purpose?

[primal eagle]

https://itch.io/post/29389

[misty spruce]

thx alex

aight, its fluctuating alot again, i dont understand

imma turn off my brain and just keep working on le game, sorry if i was bothering

[undone karma]

Hey Alex, is there any news on whether the SDK support stuff will happen someday? (I mean, if it's worth implementing, if there would be a list of games with the Neuro SDK, if it'd be on a stream, or something else) if not that's totally okay too, but I was curious about it

[silver junco]

it looks like our game has been in the top 30 for popularity consistently, but i dont understand why

"views, downloads, and when the game is released"
both our views and downloads should be less, and the game released at the same time as everyone else

[misty spruce]

mine likes to jump between last place 250-270s and top 20-40 for some reason

[silver junco]

we're 14th rn with this as our analytics

[misty spruce]

this is my stats at 10th for me place

its weird, my math tells my you should have a higher place than me

[silver junco]

so more views, downloads, browser plays, ratings, collections, comments and CTR, but less 7d impresions

nah, you should be higher

[misty spruce]

that 2k views was mostly from the subathon, and thats a long time ago so i dont know how itch calculates it

[silver junco]

same ngl

[misty spruce]

i dont know how to do it

[silver junco]

while im here, ive been improving V3 of my game-engine a lot. main focus these last few months has been shadow mapping and performance improvement.
im hoping to have phone compatibility too by next game-jam, just need touchcontrols and a reduced graphics mode.

[misty spruce]

goodluck on the engine dude its really cool and i bet it will help you out in the future

[undone karma]

That's super inspiring!!!

I guess popularity is calculated by recent views / downloads and how new the game is, so since all our games got released the same time and maybe don't differ by views / plays that much, a couple plays or no plays is enough to shift the balance drastically

[misty spruce]

gamejam was 5 months ago

[silver junco]

almost 6

[undone karma]

New gamejam in 6 months from now (surely)

[pine mortar]

well, there is gmtk and brackeys game jam in 2 months

those are fun too

[silver junco]

if vedal doesnt make one, i will still attend the 3rd neuro game-jam

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-gif-25117042

[misty spruce]

i have memory issues so i reread almost all my messages/comments on the game to see bugs/critics and shit, anyways i just finished backreading the entire gamejam 2024 archive + neuro wars comments + neuro wars game jam comments

i just do it to relearn whatever i forget and stuff

btw you guys have any plans for the next game jam?

teaming and stuff?

[silver junco]

im probably going to team with superbox and iggly again

im hoping to get the gang from game-jam 2 in its entirety, but we'll see

the plan is to get 1st place in audio a 2nd time

and just general improvements over last jam

[misty spruce]

i bet you'll make something really cool again

[misty spruce]

i forgot to mention something, this is the music Lydium made for neuro wars, i like it a lot and wanted to share his awesome work, WARNING MIGHT BE LOUD ON YOUR SIDE

[silver junco]

[pine mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-jam-nod-pet-kitty-gif-17932554

[undone karma]

So good, I love the level 3 track the most

I don't have plans for next Neuro jam, if I don't team up with anybody ahead of time then I'll probably just wing it and chance upon an ultra talented teammate last second like the last two times

[misty spruce]

Goodluck dude, see of memories is goated and not sea of memories is even more goated, I bet you could make something really cool

For me I'll probably just try to go with the flow, if I end up solo, it's fine, I'll try to ask lydium if I could use some of the stuff he made for neuro wars, if someone ever wanted to work with me I'll join them, i'll try my best with the coding on scratch, simply because I'm too shy to present myself as scratch coder to other contestants

[trail parrot]

I definitely want to do another jam, idk about doing it solo though

On the one hand

Solo means I have full creative freedom

But, well

I really enjoy working with a team

[misty spruce]

Troubleshooting is really well made and fun to mess around in, i bet you guys can cook some really cool shit for the next jam

[quick cliff]

I would have considered solo if I weren't with the bois last year, because of that experience it makes want to work with them again

evolving enemy ai by game jam 3

[tight kestrel]

From the looks of it, you have a more consistent rate of clicks to browser plays, maybe that has something to do with it

[misty spruce]

i dunno, i dont get it

[misty spruce]

progress, submarine composition buff (4 subs needed), subs gain a 50% dodge chance to all damage

[undone karma]

The scooba mask bots are so cute

[misty spruce]

[cerulean willow]

got some new options to consider and see whats available at the next jam, but worst case scenario ill have to rely on more sprite re-usage cuz i just cant draw esp not with that time limit

[undone karma]

Just practice drawing fast until the next gamejam

[misty spruce]

i was testing units and i didnt notice the turn count

[quick cliff]

I see no issues here

[misty spruce]

[quick cliff]

That is definitely a research moment

[misty spruce]

progress

[silver junco]

Joystick or 4 buttons for touchscreen?

[misty spruce]

depends , both are good for me

[silver junco]

ill just make it optional then

[undone karma]

My not! Sea of Memories game "Heroes Against Time" is in the Steam Next fest today, a bit anxious honestly xdd

[cerulean willow]

🎉

[cerulean willow]

good luck!

[undone karma]

Ty!!

[misty spruce]

[undone karma]

Maybe some new cover art for the game idk

[jaunty mist]

Does anyone have 3d models of the twin fumos

[silver junco]

Im not sure

Its likely someone has made some, but not me at least

[pine mortar]

maybe try asking in artist-alley channel? they may have them

[ivory lodge]

meet the elven sage fam

[undone karma]

Love how you drew their pixely eyes

[pine mortar]

dead chat, guys do this ⬇️

https://tenor.com/view/buh-gif-14465458220549268962

[silver junco]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meow-silly-cat-cat-explode-yellow-cat-gif-12654556298327310612

games dont get made overnight

and im pretty sure most people here arent activly deving something rn

[pine mortar]

i know, myself included. i'm not deving since i'm busy writing my master thesis (i just wanted an excuse to post this gif)

[fast wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-gets-flung-and-explodes-orange-cat-funny-cat-meme-explodes-gif-10706110874965244466

[cerulean willow]

im devving here and there but nothing particularly worth mentioning

i guess heres some progress to show

👀

[silver junco]

aquwa integration

[undone karma]

I'm devving rn and I have stuff worth mentioning but I've been really busy with the next fest and real life stuff... But I can share one new character design from Sea of Memori- I mean, Heroes Against Time!

[cerulean willow]

aye, as the neuroverse expands so will my sprites roster

[silver junco]

as for me im switching to C++

no more python

this means rewritting everything tho

[pine mortar]

classic switch to get faster code

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-duck-gif-1363576254939741235

[thick totem]

There's a story idea I've been playing with for a while now

so I've been experimenting with dialog plugins and such

sometimes I feel like I'm slowly becoming a writer

the other day I woke up, opened my notebook, and typed like half a page

[split yoke]

Unless you procrastinated first 2 days of a 3 day long gamejam

[silver junco]

[split yoke]

Also I've been thinking of making a rogue-lite where player explores planets with each planet having a bunch of 2D platforming sections, might make it this summer if ot turns out interesting

[undone karma]

I think you totally have the talent for it

[misty spruce]

thats my Captain right there!

[ivory lodge]

you guys would not believe how many steps are involved in adding a bow to a video game (or maybe you already know) 😅

[silver junco]

that is not for the faint of heart

goodjob

[ivory lodge]

I cheated a little by making all the humanoid npcs ghosts so I don't have to animate (or model) the hands and legs lol

[undone karma]

Old ahh TV shader I think it's going to be an optional setting in the game

[silver junco]

[pine mortar]

yeah, looks nice

(on a personal note, i think it would look better if character and total stats were in some kind of cool visual frame, though that's just might be my on silly opinion)

[undone karma]

Hmm... like a rectangle around the character stats or something?

[pine mortar]

yeah

maybe something like this? (obv in correct colors and more in your game visual style)

[undone karma]

Hmm maybe!!

[split yoke]

For enemy/ally names I'd imagine these

[undone karma]

The third set in the game is Evil themed !

[silver junco]

Guys im learning vulkan

I reached 6K fps via C++, and now the limiting factor is opengl

From the moment i understood the weakness of openGL, it dusgusted me. i craved the strenght and certainty of vulkan. I aspired the purity of the blessed machine code.

[bright silo]

this is an early prototype of the game that I'm currently developing.
I’d appreciate feedback.
https://nomad-norman.itch.io/neuroverse-early-prototype

[ivory lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/waow-based-wow-thinking-doodle-gif-12262272166408784207

[cerulean willow]

boom!

[split yoke]

Meanwhile me not having vulkan support on my laptop

[silver junco]

You dont? Why not?

Im planning on keeping opengl as fallback, just craving that extra performance

[split yoke]

GPU is like 11 years old xd

[quick cliff]

[split yoke]

I can still run games that use it with a few extra steps, like Buckshot Roulette, tho

[silver junco]

Ill just keep the opengl as fallback lmao

[split yoke]

I've seen a game having both versions with user being able to choose which to run on steam

[pine mortar]

in less than one month

[misty spruce]

goodluck dude

gonna join another jam, see if i can actually join this and got something proper

[thick totem]

I always wondered, how does rating even work with thousands of entries? The ~300 entries we had here was quite a lot already

[silver junco]

Im doing the acerola dirt jam

If i have time

https://itch.io/jam/acerola-dirt-jam/

[pine mortar]

for reference last year median of rating count was 14 and average was 21, most rated game had 1389 ratings, and top rated games had rating counts from 18 to 93, though mostly the had something around 20

i like those big jams since even if only 1% of contestants play your game, it's still like 75 people playing your game

which is quite nice

though based on median and average 1% playing your game is still a lot and you would be in in top 3% most played games in game jam

[undone karma]

I need your wisdom

Which one of these designs do you prefer for the final boss (the time god)?

In general and if there's specific elements you prefer for each one let me know

[pine mortar]

clock motiv is a must

in first picture is it lamp or hourglass (or both)?

[kindred bone]

I like the second more but the first looks more like a time god.
There's an archetype of card in Yu-Gi-Oh called Timelords, all boss monsters that I think look great as time god. I also have a bias towards biblically accurate angels.

[pine mortar]

also in first picture is it shield or mantle/cloak/robe?

i think the mix of sage look of first and eldritch vibe of the second would be nice

[misty spruce]

since time god became evil/corrupt i like the 2nd one, maybe give the design a clockish asthetic?

good reference on a the "clockish asthetic" in my own personal subjective opinion would be "clockwork steampunk" because thats the best i can think off

[undone karma]

Both !!

[undone karma]

Yu gi oh card designs are great, someone thought a different character I made is inspired by Dark Magician actually x"D

[pine mortar]

when all the sand falls down, does he have handle on the bottom and he flips it, or are there portals on both sides like in game Portal and sand falls infinetly

or magic

[undone karma]

Wow these are some conflicting opinions to other people who preferred the first one more so I'm currently going with this

But I like ideas like the sand eldritch + sage as Empty said

And maybe I can make clocks fit more somehow hmm... like a clock aura or something lol

[undone karma]

It's going to be a static sprite but I imagine it's some kind of magic in the game world

[pine mortar]

how about scythe, but there are three blades that look like arms of old clock?

[undone karma]

Wow that's a sick idea too

[pine mortar]

this new design looks better imo

[undone karma]

I'm glad Incorporating stuff I learned from former designs, also actually did this one over a drawn body with proportions instead of winging it

[undone karma]

Hmm... I think Steampunk is less the vibe that I'm going for, I prefer something that feels more ancient and timeless, but, ||if I have a different sprite for the timegod for each map then there'll be one map with a steampunk-ish time god!!!||

(Also ty a lot for the feedback everyone)

[split yoke]

decided to learn Godot ig

[floral oasis]

hey i just wanna ask

is there any game that has post-jam updates so far?

[undone karma]

I think a lot of them did, I remember that @misty spruce 's Neuro Wars did for example, also my Sea of Memories

[floral oasis]

ic

[silver junco]

Im planning to remaster mine in the new engine

But thats not happening too soon

[misty spruce]

im still working on neurowars even after 7 months which i told myself is crazy but i still do it

for some reason the related games got updated

i cant believe 3 extremely goated games are in here

[silver junco]

The vulkan stuff is going good

Im on page 120 from the 288

Ill do some demo shit when im home

[misty spruce]

yeah, ive been kinda updating quite a bit

[cerulean willow]

i did one pretty recently after the jam to tidy up some holes in the game and add a boss fight but i didnt bother finishing it all the way after that cuz nobody playin anymore anyway lol

[misty spruce]

btw, feel free to skip mine because its quite long and might get boring for ya, if ya ever do try to make a video on it, campaign 1 is fully complete while campaign 2 is still work in progress (ps. you can still play campaign 2 levels [theres about 10 levels done out of 36 total levels], it auto saves per update so dont worry about losing progress 👍 )

[cerulean willow]

anotha one :3

[silver junco]

[split yoke]

I should do this more frequent, anyways, here's some movement mechanics ig

basically player has a dash that can be used to get more speed and there's kinda no limit to that

[trail parrot]

only 47k tris

shaved about 40k tris without any impact

[undone karma]

This looks awesome!!!

I've added a secret color palette in the game that you can unlock with the code "tutel" in the demo

[pine mortar]

now that i think about it, i might also join shovel jam as warm up before gmtk since i'm almost done with my uni

[silver junco]

i get the feelin phantasmal is making some scary horror game

[pine mortar]

idk man, it looks like farming sim to me

[silver junco]

farming horror sim would be cool

[trail parrot]

Could farm fleshy plants for organs

I'm getting evil ideas just thinking about it

This will go in the game for sure

[silver junco]

[split yoke]

I was gonna send a new vid but OBS decided to not record in more than 3 fps sooo
Basically I just polished movements a bit, allowed player to get onto ledges and also nerfed dash so they don't go supersonic instantly lol

Kinda almost done with basic movements, just need a few more features and then I'll do other things like levels themselves or visuals and audio

[misty spruce]

may we engage in honorable combat

also progress i guess

[trail parrot]

w u r m

[quick cliff]

Brain parasite yippie

[silver junco]

[trail parrot]

birb

[pine mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/kung-fu-panda-finally-a-worthy-opponent-our-battle-will-be-legendary-battle-fight-gif-24829111

[pine mortar]

reminds me of cookiecutter shark

[trail parrot]

Heheh, those things

They took bites out of submarines

[swift flame]

I got distracted by other games and things, but i'm back and found a bug. fireball lv 2 is showing up as lv 3 shock at the trash can with it's sell price displayed even. It also seems to be able to show up as the other level 1 spells i have

[misty spruce]

Dang you still played that

[swift flame]

i wasn't until now. i was planning to come back to it at some point though so

[misty spruce]

might just be because the costumes werent updated

i think i might have to drop that project for now tho unfortunately

[swift flame]

Oof. Well if you do work on it again, one thing I would suggest is maybe making the board taller. It's very cramped vertically and the enemies become so dense that it's hard to even move.

A UI rework could be good as it feels kinda cluttered to me. The spells, potions and gold could be moved to the bottom, and the skills could leveled up at an NPC (complete with descriptions of what they do) between floors.

I have other ideas too, but I'll save them for if you need them

[misty spruce]

main reason why its taking too much time is the heroes being extremely unique, while black mage has multiple spells and a custom ui, nightingale and death knight have a completely different playstyle and their own custom ui, nightingale cant attack with the mouse but every time you move with "aswd" you perform an action, actions can add parry stacks, deal damage, give shields, buff damage and etc., you can learn actions from the shop (concept was the "dancer" architype)and death knight is all about form, she cant attack also but has a wider skill slot, each time she uses an attack her form switches up and depending on what form you used, you could deal bonus damage on the next attack, or less damage if the form is bad (concept was realistic swordsmanship)

[trail parrot]

unity, what have you done to my model

[pine mortar]

this spider be lookin kinda thin

[trail parrot]

bones got too optimized

[silver junco]

Why does she have 6 torsos?

[trail parrot]

read a comment and went "hmm"

I think I could make that work

Lo and behold, I did

[misty spruce]

Goodluck Empty, 1 more day left before the jam, lets have a great time

[quick cliff]

The duel of all duels is about to start!

[misty spruce]

im gonna remove some of my brakes, last game jam i made sure not to draw anything since it takes too much time, but this time, game jam lasts quite a while so i can make something with drawn sprites

[quick cliff]

Can't wait to see the rough drafts once the jam ends

[misty spruce]

also (i think) this time im actually gonna have someone to make music

[wicked escarp]

there is a game jam? is it the GMTK one?

[quick cliff]

@wicked escarp this one

[wicked escarp]

i also just realized the GMTK one is in 19 days and not 19 hours. i can't read sometimes

[quick cliff]

GMTK could be fun if I literally knew any game engine.

[wicked escarp]

learn godot (totally not biased advice)

[quick cliff]

godot crashes on my system

[wicked escarp]

it can literally run on a phone.

how

[quick cliff]

I blame linux

[wicked escarp]

there are also linux builds that should just work

[quick cliff]

If I knew I'd be trying to fix it as well

[misty spruce]

iggly, are you gonna try joining aswell

[wicked escarp]

its been a while since i joined a gamejam... maybe its time to pick it up again and actually try to finish a game

[quick cliff]

Let me see what it is

hmm 9 day jam

[misty spruce]

game jam lasts for a chunky 9 days so i think my quality will still be the same as the neuro game i made, just better art and shit

[quick cliff]

My only issue is that I'd be working solo because Sam is on screeps :xdx:

[misty spruce]

neuro jam lasted for 3 days after all

[misty spruce]

oh

[quick cliff]

No neuro who can't sing levels of audio, well maybe

[wicked escarp]

screeps is mostly a passive game. you can work on a gamejam and play screeps at the same time.

[quick cliff]

doubt I'd do that anyways

[wicked escarp]

besides.. the novice zone will end in like 7 days.. we are all doomed anyway if one of the players next to us wants the rooms

so no reason to focus on screeps. we can't get onto a level to defend ourself within 7 days anyway. so i will just work on my screeps at a bare minimum fixing issues baby sitting them a bit and the rest focus on the game jam

[quick cliff]

Up to @silver junco really, If he's down then I guess I can figure it out. Otherwise I'll probably be repeating what I did on my first game jam and do a terminal based game.

Need to figure out if my schedule lines up

[silver junco]

Hi thats me

How much time left? 9 days?

[quick cliff]

9 day jam

starts in like 16ish hours

[silver junco]

Lemme speedrun my vulkan ig

[quick cliff]

[silver junco]

If its not done in time we can fallback to opengl

[quick cliff]

I guess I'll have to be on 2d art then because I sure as frick can't help with coding.

I'll try to not be a burden

[silver junco]

[quick cliff]

Shame that AI support for your engine doesn't exist yet. I don't think I'm in a place to finish it currently.

[misty spruce]

[quick cliff]

It's the last time I'll be able to commit a lot of time to it if things work out well. Might as well go all out.

Fuck it we ball

[wicked escarp]

[silver junco]

If you're using cuda eventualy it should just work fine

[quick cliff]

Still planning on avoiding cuda, the atomics are so simple I know they can be ported to vulkan/opengl compute whenever it is finished.

The only external behavior I rely on is array casting

[silver junco]

Cude uses the tensor cores iirc

Otherwise id prefer going vulkan since there you can set up 2 logical devices on 1 physical device. Making us able to "partition" the gpu compute between NN and rendering

[quick cliff]

That would be useful if it were either floating point, or multiplication. Neither I am using

It's closer to a raster workload than anything

[silver junco]

So vulkan then

Opengl coukd get difficult with splitting compute

[quick cliff]

Surely we can just hardcode to every 10 frames

Either way, no way it is getting done by the jam

[silver junco]

Unless you want to run the NN inbetween the frames

Ye no lmao

[quick cliff]

Unless I ascend higher than god himself, this is not being finished in the timeframe

[silver junco]

Im pretty sure just splitting the gpu between NN and rendering will be faster due to vram and binding shaders limitations

So id rather do that if possible

I can probably just make it a togle for testing tho

[misty spruce]

goodluck you two, i bet you guys can cook up something really awesome like last time

[quick cliff]

I wouldn't count on it, but I'll try

[silver junco]

Last time i had a lot of help from others

Ill try tho

Executive decision has beenmade

No vulkan, just webgl

[wicked escarp]

is webgl the same as webgpu?

[silver junco]

No

Webgl is like opengl in the web

Webgpu is meant to be better by supporting vulkan and webgl iirc

But in reality webgpu isnt too well supported yet

[wicked escarp]

the only reason i asked. is because i saw a video about someone making a whole engine ontop of webgpu

it does seem to be pretty well supported

[silver junco]

Or im confusing webgpu and wgpu. Its a confusing naming scheme

[wicked escarp]

wait.. i might have also done the same

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdMl4E7xQEY nvm.. it was webgpu

[silver junco]

Wgpu seems to be a webgpu implementation in rust

[wicked escarp]

[silver junco]

The naming for these is kinda bad

[quick cliff]

classic rust naming

[quick cliff]

Well we at least now have access to NeuroSynth so anything is on the table.

[wicked escarp]

what is NeuroSynth.. i would guess you don't mean: "Neurosynth is a platform for large-scale, automated synthesis of functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI) data."

[silver junco]

No

Its for making vocal synthesis

[quick cliff]

An example of it's usage is this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jWOyIcKz98

[wicked escarp]

oh i see its the project by Superbox

[quick cliff]

Yep it is that project

[wicked escarp]

idk why i remembered a different name for some reason for it

[quick cliff]

[pine mortar]

alright, master thesis defence side quest done, not it's time for real quest

[misty spruce]

[silver junco]

[trail parrot]

Oho, game jam soon

Too late to join a team I suppose

Perhaps I can solo this

[misty spruce]

empty, sam, iggly, phantasmal, shovel jam starting soon goodluck and have fun

[silver junco]

thanks

[quick cliff]

It do be starting!

https://tenor.com/view/angry-cat-smol-small-ragey-gif-26398063

Where in the frick is the theme, and why is it set back a whole 9 days

@misty spruce got any idea what's happening with the jam?

[silver junco]

it got announced

cant forward the message for some reason

oh its prob cuz of the @ everywan

[misty spruce]

Theme is "just get started"

[silver junco]

https://youtu.be/vIL2wgHvgxU?si=AF4fi0f3NtHa_9rr 

Good luck and have fun! :IsadoraJam:
YouTube
Inbound Shovel
The theme for the InboundShovel Game Jam is...
Image```

[quick cliff]

hmmmmmmm

[silver junco]

thank you copy paste

indeed hmmmm

wtf are you even supposed to do for that?

[quick cliff]

Great question

[misty spruce]

i have a really dum idea

yep, i think i have a rather good idea

[silver junco]

im drawing a blank lmoa

[misty spruce]

"just get started" is all about beating the hard part of a task that is starting the task, so im gonna have the theme of the game focus on the player being level 1 and trying to beat the 1st floor of the dungeon

i also have another idea that might be useful, have "just get started" as a game mechanic

also i suggest looking at the brainstorming section of their discord, you guys might get some ideas

[pine mortar]

good luck everyone!

it's 11pm so it's sleepy time for me , idea for game will come to me as revelation in my dream

[misty spruce]

gnights empty

as always like i did last time, i'll be starting

[silver junco]

the team is busy rn so im just gonna have to work on the engine and hope for the best

ills tart on shaders and then add audio

[undone karma]

Good luck jammers!!!

[silver junco]

thanks

i will need it

forgot how unfinished the c++ engine is

[pine mortar]

hmm, i might have some idea what to do for this theme, let's see how it turns out

[wicked escarp]

i decided against joining the jam after all.. 9 days is a bit long for me to put into it..

[misty spruce]

i'll try my best on it, it wont be that high quality but we think we might be able to cook something cool

[quick cliff]

I'm hoping to at least get something done. It should be fun at least.

[silver junco]

[misty spruce]

btw, once ou guys are finished, do send the link so that i can play em

[misty spruce]

this might be the first game where i use actually drawings instead of vectors so goodluck on me i guess

[trail parrot]

func die():
    var orb = preload("res://Enemies/XP_Orb/XpOrb.tscn").instantiate()
    orb.xpAmount = xp_drop_amount
    orb.freeze = true
    orb.position = position
    get_tree().current_scene.add_child(orb)
    orb.freeze = false
    
    dead = true``` godot is proving to be a little frustrating

trying to set the position of the orb a million different ways

but it's always spawning at world origin

there's transform.origin, global_position, position, none of them work

orb.translate(self.global_position) no good on this either

orb.global_transform.origin = self.global_transform.origin

still no

whyyyyyyy

    pen.global_transform = self.global_transform
    get_tree().current_scene.add_child(pen)
    var forward = -pen.global_transform.basis.z.normalized()
    pen.linear_velocity = forward * Speed```

this worked

    orb.xpAmount = xp_drop_amount
    orb.global_transform = self.global_transform
    get_tree().current_scene.add_child(orb)``` but not this?

[wicked escarp]

is Pen a class or a object that already exists ?
i personally always add the child first and then adjust the position.
because orb.position would be relative to their parent. not sure if global_position also gets reset if you change the parent or not

[trail parrot]

Pen is a scene

also, I tried it both ways

adjusting the position before and after

and also, it seems like it's not always spawning at the origin?

but it's still not spawning right

[wicked escarp]

when you spawn the orb did you already call queue_free on the enemy?

[trail parrot]

no

that happens after a delay

[wicked escarp]

weird...

maybe try printing the location of it in the console and see what the values are

[trail parrot]

yea, i plan to let my friend fix this

he's the godot dev

[trail parrot]

will do

wait, let me try after adding as child

okay, that's... spawning the orbs at the enemy spawn points

not their current location

...I fixed it

turns out the root node was fixed

[pine mortar]

i have defined global function so that i don't have to bother with it everytime i want spawn something

func Instantiate(prefab_name, position, rotation, parent):
var path = "res://Prefabs/" + prefab_name + ".tscn"
var object = load(path)
var newobject = object.instantiate()
newobject.set_position(position)
newobject.set_rotation(rotation)
newobject.owner = get_tree().get_edited_scene_root()
parent.add_child(newobject)
return newobject

[wicked escarp]

that looks wrong.. why are you setting the owner

also. shouldn't you add the child first then set the positions?

[pine mortar]

i mean it works

[wicked escarp]

[pine mortar]

i remember that if i didn't set owner, then bad things happened

huh

now that i checked and owner is indeed not needed

i guess it's not needed in this scenario

[trail parrot]

question, how do I play this as an overlay animation?

[ivory lodge]

yeah, setting the owner with edited_scene_root is usually only for tool scripts/plugins that effect the editor itself

[pine mortar]

i suppose i did some tool script like grass spawning and forgot about it huh

[ivory lodge]

you might also want to preload scenes instead of loading them in during runtime that can cause a little lag spike the first time you load a scene depending on the size of your game

I would probably do something more like this

uids are better than paths if you know them ahead of time because you can move files around without the uids changing which is handy

doesn't matter that much for a jam game though

[wicked escarp]

i fully embraced the uid workflow everything i use is uid

[pine mortar]

well, uid is quite new so i am not used to using it yet though i should, and in terms of load and preload i know that they both have use cases and there is a whole discourse concerning it

[misty spruce]

i think im cooking

what ya guys think it looks bad sofar

[pine mortar]

classic placeholders

[misty spruce]

its gonna take a while, but i will hand draw everything

[ivory lodge]

yeah I thought they might be annoying to work with but I love em

[wicked escarp]

its not perfect yet in vscode since i still need to tab to the editor to get the UID

but i generally don't use hard references so it hardly ever matters

[pine mortar]

that quality is craaazy

[misty spruce]

i did an edit and increased the contrast a bit and uhhh...

i think im on the right path

[ivory lodge]

I guess I never considered that since I just use gdscript

[wicked escarp]

i mean.. i use gdscript too. just through vscode

[ivory lodge]

oh ..

[misty spruce]

progress i think

[misty spruce]

thats soo cool (side note i thought the pages bugged and didnt flip properly at first so i did , my bad )

[trail parrot]

that's compression kek

thank you

i had idea to launch paperplanes like homing missiles

imma leave Walmart-wan to implement the logic

[trail parrot]

book that eats

nom

bookmark tongue?

hmm

better, a little

[trail parrot]

and rigged

tongue

[trail parrot]

hmm, outside needs texture maybe?

[pine mortar]

for now i only have some basic island generation

[pine mortar]

i like how clean it looks

[undone karma]

The art on this is so good I love this kinda dark-looking, hand drawn artstyle

[misty spruce]

great work cooking guys, all of these looks so fucking cool

[misty spruce]

glad you liked it!

[silver junco]

[trail parrot]

why does it look jittery now

some issue with converting mkv to mp4 smh

[undone karma]

The shooting is awesome, it does look a bit weird when the book clips on other geometry like in 0:25, I think other games like FPS solve that by having two cameras - one for the scene and one for the first person thing you're holding

[silver junco]

yes. basicly you render them to a diffrent buffer and then blit them

i see yall are already doing lots of game stuff, i have done nothing but engine work

[trail parrot]

I was thinking about doing that, yeah

[trail parrot]

so pretty!

[undone karma]

Island is already looking awesome a bit of grass on the ground could maybe make it look even more lively... I also kinda wonder what a sunset would look like with some of the horizon shots in the video haha

[wicked escarp]

are you using godot? in beta 3 of 4.5 they added a material setting to make it easier for the fps style camera thingy: https://github.com/godotengine/godot/pull/93142

[trail parrot]

We are using godot

Not the beta version tho

Still cool to know

[wicked escarp]

i always use the latest git version

and build myself

[trail parrot]

Twasnt my decision

[trail parrot]

ack, audio is on channel 2

oh well, am too lazy to fix

hmm, the weapons need more synergy with each other

that, or they need to play different roles

ideally both

one thing I'm thinking of to improve the plane is to have it pass through enemies

[pine mortar]

i like how this gameplay is starting to turn out

[trail parrot]

I was wondering how I could improve the pen weapon

Minawan4Evil

feet were inverted, didn't notice

[ivory lodge]

omg that's so good I gotta update asap

[undone karma]

NOOOO WAY THAT'S SO PRETTY

[pine mortar]

that's grass from some tutorial i followed some time ago

[ivory lodge]

w grass, is it using multimeshing?

[pine mortar]

though grass is always problematic cuz it can take away a lot of performance

yes

a lot of multimeshes

[wicked escarp]

stop making me want to actually do join the jam afterall. so many cool projects here

[ivory lodge]

I'm itching for a jam but I'm still working on last year's project

can't believe I've kept at it so long

[pine mortar]

though i wonder what is better, one big multimesh which is better for performance, but since it's always visible, there won't be occlusion culling or several smaller ones which is a bit worse for performance, but there is occlusion

[ivory lodge]

:hmm:

maybe multiple decently sized chunks

[wicked escarp]

there is a trade-off at one point. you want to chunk the multi-meshes after a certain amount. i think it was like 100k per chunk or something spread around.
(i used the gardener addon for my project that needed lots of grass it did the chunking)

also are you guys aiming for a web release or only windows

[trail parrot]

both, probably

[ivory lodge]

I did this in my game but I eventually cut it out for performance, I switched it for some (buggy) physics on the book so it avoids walls, which does look cool when it works

[wicked escarp]

be very careful then what you include in your project. web builds are very picky about what is allowed

[trail parrot]

we should do test builds

Minamhm

[wicked escarp]

i couldn't use many of my go-to addons because i was planning to go for a web build so i just dropped out

[pine mortar]

currently im doing the second option, i have a patch of grass and i spawn at map using poisson disc sampling

i think i won't go for web, since 3d games have much lower performance on those

[ivory lodge]

did they finally get c# builds working for web? I was really surprised to see they hadn't implemented that

[wicked escarp]

they are generally totally fine

[trail parrot]

web games have advantage though

so it's worth

[wicked escarp]

not yet. but its in the works afaik

web games get like 10x+ the engagement during game jams from what i saw

[ivory lodge]

yeah there would need to be a lot of compromise, it's a lot more freeing to forget about web support, but of course in terms of jams people mostly play web builds

[pine mortar]

i mean, they have much greater chance of being played

though then quality of gameplay is worse and then you will get worse ratings

or atleast that's from my experience

[wicked escarp]

web builds vs native builds, play a lot of the times the same there are only a few caviates. but most all can transfer between them seamlessly

no gdextensions is the biggest caveat

and no C# currenty

gdextension could maybe technically work. and there is a setting for them. but i didn't manage to get them to work on itchio

probably because you need a web version of the gdextension and most probably don't build that

[pine mortar]

well, i can at least try and see whether web version can handle terrain generation

[wicked escarp]

maybe i do try to make a game for the jam after all.. (even tho it was already overscoped for 9 days let alone for the remaining 6)

[pine mortar]

i mean, it won't hurt to try, it doesn't need to be big

[wicked escarp]

i get this issue when i try to launch the game on itchio

it works without threads and disabling sharedarray on itchio...

(shader didn't compile tho )

the lightweight terrain shader loaded properly

[misty spruce]

keep cooking dudes, we still have 5 more days

[silver junco]

only 5 days? fuck

imma need to start 3d modeling this shit at light speed

i present my usual test scene, now in browser with C++ and emscripten instead of my python garbage

now i just gotta make the actual game

huh, you can see the edges of the polygons here and there

[quick cliff]

copy paste time

[silver junco]

[pine mortar]

i sure do like some nice fern

[wicked escarp]

i think. its basically ready for release... 10/10 game already

[silver junco]

im kinda stressing ngl

[wicked escarp]

the typical gamejam experience

[silver junco]

i though "9days, i could pull of open world"

ye my 3D modleing skills will see

[wicked escarp]

open world in 9 days...

[silver junco]

it will be something

im hoping to be done witht th e3D mdoeling by the time we have 3 days left, cuz i need to add a bunch of game-logic still

[wicked escarp]

(technically im also making a open world i guess )

tho mine is more akin to something like PEAK

or get to work etc.

[quick cliff]

We love copy pasting a single house template, would be on brand for where this is inspired by

[silver junco]

lemme open up your home adress on google maps

[quick cliff]

[silver junco]

https://tenor.com/view/mortal-online-mortal-online-2-dance-california-girls-katy-perry-gif-9241991389475835376

your house has too much shit infront of it ngl

lemme leach of the neighbors

[quick cliff]

Worst case you can visit the similar areas down the road

[silver junco]

[quick cliff]

I don't think they do much

[silver junco]

i love the car with the red part

trying to be non-descriptive

[quick cliff]

that's ours yeah

[silver junco]

i do wonder, if i model it too similair you wont get doxxed will you?

[quick cliff]

You'd need some next level search to even remotely search that one down from house shape alone

Unless someone mapped out every area and their housing then maybe

I'm not too worried on it

We simply do not mention where the houses came from mhm

[wicked escarp]

don't let rainbolt hear of that

[quick cliff]

Yeah, otherwise I'm cooked

[silver junco]

i fucked up the scale slightly but its mostly fine

every cell is 4.95m instead of 5 for some reason

oh i get it, 100 subdevisions = 101 edges

[wicked escarp]

shouldn't it be 102?

[silver junco]

idk

i didnt math this

[wicked escarp]

since you start with 2 edges and then subdivide inbetween 100 times

[silver junco]

i started with 1 edge tho

1 edge with 2 vertices

102 vertices, 101 edges

[wicked escarp]

[silver junco]

[silver junco]

welp, something like this ig

need to add more detailing and texturing

imma take a break tho

[quick cliff]

you deserve it

[silver junco]

yalls houses have so many random cutouts

like i dont see why yall indent the facade

[quick cliff]

American jankngineering

[silver junco]

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-up-engineer-gaming-gif-19532009

[quick cliff]

Surely the door could have juse been foward and not merged with the driveway

[silver junco]

yep

[silver junco]

aight im back from break, time to model again

[trail parrot]

Was wondering why footsteps logic was not working properly: turns out, it was, my audio file was just wrong

[trail parrot]

+1 enemy, hypnosis phone

I want to make it pull your camera towards it

but... am too lazy rn

I also wanted to give it grabby hands

like "come hither"

[trail parrot]

improved za spiral

[misty spruce]

hows cooking guys?

[trail parrot]

Today was slow

Low on brain juice

[misty spruce]

ganbatte phanta what you're cooking is already so cool, make sure to rest properly

[misty spruce]

progress i guess

[misty spruce]

spell swaping now fuctional in the armory (allows player to change what spells a unit has before entering the gameplay segment)

[pine mortar]

well, now that island generation is done for now, it's finally time to add some gameplay

[silver junco]

4 days and 2 hours left

[silver junco]

building

[trail parrot]

this will be cool

time to test it out

[trail parrot]

Walmart-wan gave me the idea

[trail parrot]

queue the interstellar music

[misty spruce]

goodluck everyone

goodnews for me is that game is already complete, all the levels are done, all i have to do left is set up the settings tab and draw all the art

i have like 6 areas with custom enemies for each zone, it was hella fun creating enemies

are the enemies fair? depends

[trail parrot]

I made a lot of art

we need ai for three enemies

a boss

an intro and ending

upgrade icons

balancing the powerups and enemies

[misty spruce]

thats soo cool dude, goodlucks 3 days + hrs

[trail parrot]

oh actually, need to remake one enemy's sprite

[trail parrot]

thank you!

[misty spruce]

i believe

[trail parrot]

🙏

Good luck to you as well

[misty spruce]

lets just say i have once again focused entirely on gameplay

[trail parrot]

-# oh wait sfx still needs a lot of work

[trail parrot]

smart move

[misty spruce]

all i have for audio is the music my duo made for me

[trail parrot]

sound design? what's that?

[misty spruce]

no ida

lets just say i have 6 levels, 3 difficulties, 1 final boss and quite a bit of player expression so i might have a chance

you can swap what spells a unit brings to the battle, you can select 3 out of 6 units to bring into battle, and lastly theres no linear path, you beat mission 1 and then you unlock 4 more levels, you can beath these 4 levels in any order to unlock the final boss

also theres the functional savefile but for me thats about everything

welp i have to start doing more art for the gamejam

Badly taken photo

[trail parrot]

sheesh

[undone karma]

Lusk's art is always peak and nobody will convince me otherwise

[misty spruce]

2 of the enemies from the silver tower stage

theming for this area is porcelain/doll type enemies

[misty spruce]

its all coming together

[trail parrot]

my teammate can no longer help from here

it's solo time

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

heh, a little jumping spider has taken residence on my pc

what a cute little thing

[kindred bone]

Kill it with a fireball

[misty spruce]

2 more days left, goodluck everyone

[silver junco]

[quick cliff]

[silver junco]

Bro made a crab

[pine mortar]

return to crab

[quick cliff]

crab is peak form

[pine mortar]

indeed

[silver junco]

[trail parrot]

snip snip

[misty spruce]

peak form of evolution

[split yoke]

We have "That time I got reincarnated as a crab" game now ig

[naive moth]

I joined to try to help !
still familiarizing myself with the project and actually godot (never used godot)
also play testing and finding funny issues

[silver junco]

2 days left

[misty spruce]

ganbatte

i might have to speedrun

[quick cliff]

my brain had an error parsing this fraction

Seems like it might be speedrun time

[misty spruce]

26/16 done i think i'll be able to finish everything before the deadline

[misty spruce]

harpy enemies

[trail parrot]

1 day left boys

[split yoke]

"I should do this more frequent"
I did not start doing it more frequent

[undone karma]

Is he a turtle?

Guessed it because of the green backpack and clothes haha

[split yoke]

Wait that's a nice idea

[misty spruce]

dude my duo cooked hard

[silver junco]

24 hours left

[vapid trail]

What are you participating in?

[silver junco]

shovel game jam

im cooked, i still need to make player 3D model and the npcs

and the rest of the game that isnt the map

but i do also need to finish that

[quick cliff]

We are so cooked, the legally obligated song is also not near ready

[silver junco]

i think we're just gonna delay the game

i still want to release it but its not nearly cooked enough

[quick cliff]

We overscoped so hard on this one.

[vapid trail]

Classic game jams.

The theme seems funny for overscoping though.

[quick cliff]

@silver junco I guess we did just get started huh?

[silver junco]

yep

[pine mortar]

surely remaining time frame is enough for death mechanics, important event, win condition, main menu, loading screen and other polishes, right?

[vapid trail]

What even has been created yet.

[misty spruce]

final stretch, 19 hrs left, im going all the way now, goodluck everyone

[trail parrot]

good luck!

[undone karma]

You got this!!! Show them what the Neurocord is made out of!!!

[trail parrot]

anyone up for play testing my game?

[kindred bone]

Me.

[trail parrot]

https://voidbois.itch.io/procrastination

password: procrastinate

can you record your gameplay?

it would be nice for finding issues

[trail parrot]

-# I didn't want to fully release it just yet

[kindred bone]

Yeah, I can

[misty spruce]

the squad is almost ready

[kindred bone]

I didn't record the gameplay but here's my feedback:
-I played the browser version.
-It begins with all the sounds off.
-When you fall it's instant game over.
-It works fine I think.
-Cool idea, it's like an arena shooter, maybe too much gray.

[trail parrot]

sounds are off!?

[trail parrot]

fall how?

[kindred bone]

Inside the tutorial, when you have to jump and dash, but it's not that big of a deal.

[trail parrot]

ah, that

intentional, I think

[kindred bone]

Inside the settings menu all the sound options were all the way to the left, and the main menu didn't have any music or sounds so I was confused.

[trail parrot]

oh ok

[misty spruce]

wait can you test my game too?

if you arent busy ofcourse