Bingo prompt suggestions + development

[shy garden]

thinking this for artwork
#1292556367541964950 message

[shy garden]

had to remove some prompts that don't make sense anymore, now 2 prompts low on vedal...

[graceful spindle]

Aye aye cap’n

Lots of vedal prompts incoming lemme cook

[shy garden]

also could do with extra neuros!

but is priority rn

[graceful spindle]

okay I have a few weird ones rn

[graceful spindle]

• Neuro insults Vedal
• Neuro crashes
• Vedal mentions the name debate (tomfoolery ?)
• Vedal mentions ANY advancements (bug fixes, - new features, etc)
• Vedal mentions ANY non-latency issues (crashing, sub glitch, etc)
• Rum bottle clink in BG (?????)
• New game stream
• Neuro calls Vedal Coldfish or Mosquito
• Vedal says “Vedal out”
• Other streamer joins (????)
• Vedal mentions sleep or his sleep schedule

the ones with ?'s are ones Im unsure about

I tried combining some prompts, but if we end up witha need for more prompts we can seperate them

[shy garden]

• Neuro crashes
  i added this as an emergency vedal prompt: "vedal has tech issues", which is a global tech issues prompt

it feels a bit more realistic than neuro crashing rn

since neuro tech actually a pretty well oiled machine

[shy garden]

• Vedal mentions ANY advancements (bug fixes, - new features, etc)
  this is actually bundled with "vedal does actual dev work" because informing us of neuro's improvements and bugfixes is dev work

but cos vedal doing actual dev work is considered him programming only

i'll change the name

[graceful spindle]

Okay sounds good to me

are we at least in the safe range now?

[shy garden]

yes

pushing now

[graceful spindle]

okay
once again, sorry I couldnt give more sooner
unfortunately life stuff is sadly a higher priority then Neuro stuff

cringe ikr

[shy garden]

entirely understandable

absolute worst case scenario

i ccould come up with some prompts

or just change weights around

rely more on neuro or chat

[graceful spindle]

yeah its kinda wild to think
we're at this perfect in-between with advancements where its JUST reliable enough that we can still prompt for bingo but also just random enough that it makes it hard to guess what shes gonna do

so different to how she was even a couple months ago

@shy garden hey we still have the perms for this art we never ended up using https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1287576034665037985

[shy garden]

i plan to use that tomorrow

if it's a solo neuro

[graceful spindle]

[graceful spindle]

[shy garden]

we're so cooked

[graceful spindle]

WE'RE FUCKED

[swift arrow]

Evil dev stream not neuro. Neuro dev stream was last week

[graceful spindle]

[shy garden]

[graceful spindle]

I SHOULD OF MADE EVIL PROMPTS BRO IM SO

[rugged kelp]

probably a good time to assign ids to prompt so that we can chnage prompts live

[shy garden]

[graceful spindle]

@shy garden okay boss

what do I need to make promtps for

[shy garden]

well we need to continue messing with solo prompts

then we have that vedal gaming stream

the news stream

collab

and more dev

but since there's a multi day break between those last 4

just need to focus on solo rn

[graceful spindle]

So whats the focus for the solo?

im gonna add some stuff with the her upgraded games capabilities (millionaire, STS) and add in Streamer joining (since Ved said that'll happen more)

is there much else, I was under the assumption that we had a pretty solid solo list

[shy garden]

it's more we need to keep prompts updated, like you said, adding upgraded games capabilities to prompts

[graceful spindle]

okay
sorry if a redundanct question, I just like knowing where to shift my focus

[shy garden]

mhm!

[graceful spindle]

[shy garden]

also i wanna move somewhere we can organise our prompts a bit better

maybe i'll cook up a prompt admin panel

[graceful spindle]

That would be nice

ill probably keep the doc to brainstorm at least

[rugged kelp]

time to move to a proper fullstack framework

[shy garden]

what one were you thinking?

[rugged kelp]

anything works

[shy garden]

omw to find the most cursed fullstack framework to ever exist

[shy garden]

@graceful spindle cos of some irl constraints, if i don't have new prompts by 1h before stream i can't accept them for today's stream

[craggy yoke]

We can re-use prompts from the last Neuro chill stream, no?

[shy garden]

yes

we're just talking about additional prompts

(which is why i'm not ing)

[graceful spindle]

AH OKAY

i was gonna get them done rn anyways

I was waiting for my class to end

Probably coulda done them during tho..

@shy garden

• Guest joins Stream
• Neuro plays STS
• Neuro plays millionaire
• Neuro changes title (???) idk if implemented in solo streams
• Neuro makes poll (???) idk if implemented in solo streams

[shy garden]

i'd like to avoid the last 2 for now, if neuro demonstrates the ability once in a solo we can add it

also i wanna merge gaming into "Neuro plays a game"

cos she'll only play one game

and if someone has STS and millionare, the second STS is picked millionare becomes a dead square

[graceful spindle]

Okay sounds good

Oh yeah I have an idea

Y’know how we had a giraffe space for neuro and are probably gonna have a Harpoon space for evil?

Why don’t we make a space like “Neuro/Evil mentions her latest obsession (obsession name)”

Then we can just swap out the (name) each time instead of having to figure out adding a new prompt

Its sorta future proofing

Anyways its an idea for later, its too late to hash out the details rn

[shy garden]

the thing is, prompts aren't built to be dynamic like that

[graceful spindle]

Fair

I guess I don’t know how easy it is to change aspects of prompts

[shy garden]

right now i can't even change prompt info without having everyone reset the board

[graceful spindle]

I see

My bad then

[shy garden]

i do plan to fix it

so we'll see how it goes

[pallid acorn]

is "chat spams LATE" on the bingo

[graceful spindle]

if his automation keeps breaking it might have to lmao

but I doubt it

[swift arrow]

does a "neuro crashes" bingo prompt exist at all because she just crashed (i don't have it on my card but maybe it's possible to have it)

[graceful spindle]

she did have one

but Suprisingly vedal works pretty fast with major issues like this

the issue that causes it is usually fixed pretty quickly, so its not sustainable for bingo

like the only reason she started crashing a lot before was the SSL issues

which vedal "fixed" by downgrading her

@shy garden I DIDNT KNOW SHE COULD PLAY CHESS DURING CHILL STREAMS

IM SO COOKED

[shy garden]

LMAO

[shy garden]

aight, we got 2 days of no streams

[shy garden]

@rugged kelp i wanna spend tomorrow maybe working on moving to a fullstack framework, but i still need to select one

[graceful spindle]

Good luck in advance

[rugged kelp]

pick svelte-kit

[shy garden]

svelte-kit

[shy garden]

@graceful spindle can you start working on prompts for the gaming stream tomorrow?

need it done today cos tomorrow stream is 3pm

instead of 7pm

[graceful spindle]

Oh shit yeah, I forgot its earlier

Sure

I was already starting to work on them anyways

[shy garden]

@graceful spindle btw with that game specific chat prompt i now need 21 prompts for this stream

[graceful spindle]

[shy garden]

if possible split them up

try to get equal vedal prompts, equal neuro prompts, equal game related prompts

to make it easier, it's vedal playing the game

[graceful spindle]

I do know vedal is playing

And also perfect, I wanted to split them up anyways

[shy garden]

[shy garden]

@graceful spindle if you can't think of neuro prompts, pull from devstream, same with a few vedal prompts
if we're seperating game related prompts, it should be...
chat - 3
game - 7
neuro - 7
vedal - 7

[graceful spindle]

[graceful spindle]

@shy garden I did it
Please review when available

[graceful spindle]

[shy garden]

looks good to me, but i'm merging the MISPLAY prompt with game prompts

@graceful spindle in the future i'll need you to provide descriptions for prompts cos idk what half of these game prompts even mean

can you also explain wtf a non-stoat talking card is

[graceful spindle]

There are 4 cards in the game that talk to you, and one is the stoat

I don’t count the stoat because its one of the first cards you aquire in the game

So thats instant bingo

[shy garden]

[graceful spindle]

Yeah sorry I was thinkinh that too but I was super cooked with sleep deprivation and couldn’t be assed

I can do that real quick if you like

Idk if its too late now tho

[shy garden]

nah too late

is fine tho

[graceful spindle]

Okay, my bad man

[shy garden]

also, what do you mean by vedal getting competitive

@graceful spindle

i wanna use this artwork for future solos, esp during this month
can you ask for permission? #1294266855392936067 message

[graceful spindle]

Hmmm I suppose that is sorta hard to define solidly

It was on the previous bingo..

Ummm

Shit hmmm idk if I can define that really well

Its very much vibe based

Um um um

Axe it if you think its undefined

[graceful spindle]

Sent the message

[shy garden]

also i kinda

forgot to remove it

i pushed it to the bingo with no description

[graceful spindle]

LMAO

Eh chat will figure it out

Its not the first time we’ve had a wishy-washy prompt

[shy garden]

@graceful spindle alright, time to cook news prompts

luckily for us

this stream has occured before

so if you need ideas look at that void

[shy garden]

@graceful spindle since news stream is 3 prompt buckets, it'll be
dual - 7 (the top list)
evil - 7
neuro - 7
chat - 3

we have enough dual, just enough evil (we're at minimum), and literally zero neuro

[graceful spindle]

On it

[shy garden]

bingo saved

i stole a bunch of prompts from solo tho

so any prompts you add are gonna be added on unless they're similar to something i added

[graceful spindle]

Done I think

[shy garden]

will take a look

[graceful spindle]

[shy garden]

okay looks good

gonna push bingo stuff

btw @graceful spindle i'm gonna throw a curveball at you for tomorrow

for tomorrows stream, i plan to make the bingo board 6 by 6 instead of 5 by 5

which means...

• we need more bingo prompts than usual
• i'm gonna have a 4 artworks, so i'd like 1 for layna, 1 for evil, 1 for neuro, and 1 for vedal
  • i need you to find this artwork and ask for permission if you can

i'll need 4 seperate categories, considering the board will be 32 prompts...
chat - 4 (i'll use the existing prompts)
neuro - 7
evil - 7
vedal - 7
lanya - 7

[graceful spindle]

Okay boss

[shy garden]

is that doable?

if not we can just do a normal 5x5 board

@graceful spindle apparently vedal won't be there

so we can drop vedal

so might be

[graceful spindle]

No its doable

[shy garden]

chat - 2
neuro - 10
evil - 10
lanya - 10

as for artwork, up to you whether you grab a vedal or not

if you don't, i'll bump chat to 3

[graceful spindle]

The collab has happened before and it was recent enough that she already had her upgrades

I should be able to predict it pretty well

[shy garden]

i feel like not having vedal when vedal is there is less embarrasing than having vedal there when vedal isn't there

so unless tutel comes to the rescue randomly and says he's cooking tomorrow, no vedal-specific prompts (mentioning vedal is fine tho)

[graceful spindle]

Question

Would it be a good idea to reduce Neuro+Evil+Layna each by 1 and add a pool of 3 called “cooking”

So I can add stuff like

• adds non-foodstuff to meal
  -layna tastetest

Or do you think we should just mix them into the other pools?

I don’t mind either way I iust wanna know whats easier for the backend

[shy garden]

mix those other things

[graceful spindle]

Understood

[graceful spindle]

Btw

Permission acquired for da paccha art

[shy garden]

perfect

bingo updated

[shy garden]

he was active in chat so i tried asking him whether he was gonna cook too

he has

not responded to me

he has responded to me, but not to the cooking question

so continue with non-vedal prompts

[graceful spindle]

I wanna ask a question

Are we ever gonna consider doing archived bingo boards?

Like for example: I missed 90% of the inscryption stream, so I also missed out on playing the bingo

Do we ever intend to implement like saved versions of previous bingos? For like, the VOD frogs?

Idk how that works so Im just curious if thats even feasible to dream about

[shy garden]

oh shit that's actually a good idea

i could do that with the fullstack framework

as for going back on previous ones... i did log every bingo board update with stream: <name> <date> so i can go back

[graceful spindle]

Okay cool!

[shy garden]

@graceful spindle i still need prompts for tonight's stream

[kindred crane]

Evil suggests Drugs, and or either of the twins suggest cooking Vedal

or cooking some turtle based dish

Evil declares she wants to harpoon something they are cooking

Vedal tells either or both of the twins to STFU

[shy garden]

can you add these as suggestions to https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ChpynCsNetXmcNic_sK_URqXFv0fVaW-GzgnbTTBQ6k/edit?tab=t.0 if possible? just put it down at the bottom under a new title

[kindred crane]

Layna takes the twins side on a topic against Vedal and they team up on him

[kindred crane]

ok added things

[shy garden]

@kindred crane figured i should give some specifics:
prompts are split into 3 "buckets" related to the specific person
for this stream, there are "neuro", "evil", and "lanya". because we're unsure of vedal's presence we are not making prompts for him

if you can, please split your suggestions into those 3 categories, and avoid making vedal-specific prompts (such as vedal getting angry or begging them to not do something)

also there's a high chance your prompts will be dumbed down to fit on the board, but i'll still consider your explanations here for the prompt explanations

[graceful spindle]

Yup, cooking rn

Also thanks for helping @kindred crane, I’ve streamlined some of your prompts and removed some that were too specific

[shy garden]

@graceful spindle need (for minimums)
1 more neuro prompt
4 more lanya prompts

also i need a layna artwork

i'll use preexisting artwork for neuro and eliv, but i need a layna

[shy garden]

i'll just use the vtuber wiki artwork for her

[graceful spindle]

Layna prompts are hard

any suggestions?

[shy garden]

layna brings up neuro's diagnosis

considering it was her who gave neuro therapy

so maybe...

"layna brings up previous collab"

@graceful spindle

[graceful spindle]

wasn't that Lucy?

[shy garden]

wait it was?

oh yeah

[graceful spindle]

all good, happens to the best of us

[rugged kelp]

[shy garden]

[rugged kelp]

all this might end up in vain lol

[graceful spindle]

Better safe than sorry

[shy garden]

okay

i can cook

change the limits

we'll have enough layna prompts if i do so

[graceful spindle]

how?

[shy garden]

change it to neuro 11 and evil 11

layna to 8

[graceful spindle]

okay yeah that works

[shy garden]

okay will do

[graceful spindle]

sorry for not cooking enough

[shy garden]

it's okay!

i asked too much of you with this 6x6 board

we'll stick to 5x5 from now on

[graceful spindle]

nah nah nah

the 6x6 is fine

it was more that Im just unfamilar with IRL stream behaviour

and Layna is kinda a wild card for me rn

I dont know her mannerisms enough

[swift arrow]

Wait this one is going to be 6x6??

[graceful spindle]

( I should of done more research last week)

[rugged kelp]

so adding stream issues in bingo or not

[graceful spindle]

I mean we can

Cloud should I add Tech issues to the layna pool?

[shy garden]

yeah add it

[rugged kelp]

its probably gonna happen, so we can add

[shy garden]

add it as a neuro prompt

adding "evil loves neuro" to evil

[graceful spindle]

@shy garden Layna has a discord
tell me when you've made the bingo live then Ill go over there to give it to them

[shy garden]

send invite link so i can monitor

[graceful spindle]

Um link was blocked

its on her twitch About page

I wont send a unsecure link this time

I PROMISE

[shy garden]

@graceful spindle we need 2 more layna prompts

oh wait

they went onto the next page

[graceful spindle]

ye

[proper estuary]

We just block links to other discord

[shy garden]

also you sent the link here-

i do mean dms when i ask for the link

[proper estuary]

It’s a security and promotion thing

[graceful spindle]

oh

Im stupid

my bad

[shy garden]

also welcome to base of operations heir

[proper estuary]

Hi

I got called here by that

lol

[shy garden]

hehehe

[graceful spindle]

sorry Heir

[proper estuary]

Ur good

[graceful spindle]

nice new pfp btw

[shy garden]

buh

guess i'll die

[rugged kelp]

its old actually

[proper estuary]

Thanks! Fians drew it!

[graceful spindle]

no you have to do the rules thing also

[proper estuary]

This is New

[graceful spindle]

I know it confused me

[rugged kelp]

oh yeah i didnt see

[shy garden]

i may be the stupid

[graceful spindle]

no its confusing
there should be something above your text bar that is like, "do this to complete setup" or something
click that first

[rugged kelp]

you probably need to aggree to the rules first

[graceful spindle]

yeah it doesnt make that clear

[shy garden]

yeah

[graceful spindle]

you made it in?

[shy garden]

yes

okay things look good

gonna push

[graceful spindle]

Okay ill send the link and explain in layna cord

when its updated

[rugged kelp]

sketechiest thing i have seen in a while

[graceful spindle]

its actually the opposite of sketchy
since its to protect from scam bots

but yeah

[shy garden]

also blank, i talked to vani about svelte.kit and i've decided i'mma experiment with it for another project before i migrate bingo to it

[rugged kelp]

lol

[rugged kelp]

yeah i read it

[graceful spindle]

Erm

[shy garden]

that's what happens if something's offline

[rugged kelp]

i have been dying without internet lately

[graceful spindle]

oh is it offline my bad

im dumb

[shy garden]

i'll have a different thing set up eventually which actually explains it's offline/unreachable

okay 6x6 bingo requires scrolling at 100% zoom...

oh well

this 6x6 is a one-off anyway

updated @graceful spindle

[graceful spindle]

mine still says news stream even when refresh

is that just a delay or sumthing?

[rugged kelp]

cache invaliadtion issues?

[graceful spindle]

I have no idea what that means

[rugged kelp]

try hard refresh

[graceful spindle]

is it updated for you?

[rugged kelp]

yeah i see it

[graceful spindle]

wtf man

[rugged kelp]

you probably have bad luck

[graceful spindle]

wtf

whatever
ill use another browser

it works then

[rugged kelp]

can you open dev console?

need to clear local storage

[shy garden]

2econd umbrella bot

[rugged kelp]

[shy garden]

the layna server accused @graceful spindle of being a bot

[graceful spindle]

WHY DO I GET SUS CHECKED EVERY SERVER I JOIN

what about me is so suspicous

[shy garden]

you joining

and then advertising the bingo

is one big part of it

[rugged kelp]

i see

this is definately

[graceful spindle]

BRUH HOW DO I WORD IT BETTER

[rugged kelp]

probably introduce yourself first

[graceful spindle]

@shy garden link to the Bingo layna art

https://skeb.jp/@una_chanko/works/23

[shy garden]

buh

[shy garden]

a bit too late to fix that

[graceful spindle]

I know

but I wanted to at least act like I tried

[rugged kelp]

anyways its fine

probably live board updates is one thing we need

[shy garden]

i'm planning to somehow fix that with sveltekit recode

[rugged kelp]

store static ids in local storage instead of prompts

so you can change prompt if id is still same

then it would only require a refresh

[shy garden]

that's potentially a fix

hmm.. actually maybe i could..

if i use the index...

i might be able to do this before sveltekit recode then

[rugged kelp]

dont use index, its bad if you want to add more prompts

[shy garden]

adding prompts post-thing is gonna be hell anyway

i might just seperate the free space management from the bingo board saving

[rugged kelp]

make it something like nuero_{prompt_short_name}, evil_{something}

[shy garden]

realistically they should be seperated anyway

[rugged kelp]

Cook a initial new version, I will help in improvements

[graceful spindle]

Im guessing our current dev prompts are good for next stream

[rugged kelp]

maybe add some extra relevant bingos from the new info we have

like iteration 19 mentioned

[shy garden]

potential artwork
#1295121648827240540 message

@graceful spindle

[shy garden]

@graceful spindle smol bump

tho we might be cooked on artwork again today

cos artist is offline

[sacred cobalt]

Btw, you guys can feel free to use any arts I commissioned if you'd like. Just need to credit the artist name

[shy garden]

me trying to find any of the arts you've comissioned brbn

@sacred cobalt can i assume any artwork you've posted in art is thus available to us? or is there specific ones which we can't use

[graceful spindle]

message sent but like you said, heavy doubts that they'll respond

[shy garden]

okay seems so... i got a bit confused over the message content

then i've found the perfect artwork for stream

[sacred cobalt]

Yep, they're all good for any non profit use ^^

[shy garden]

#1291921123377942528 message

gotcha! thank you!

[graceful spindle]

@shy garden did you add this already?

[shy garden]

i haven't

and i won't

because main topic of devstream is iteration 19

[graceful spindle]

[shy garden]

so it'd be too much of a freespace

[graceful spindle]

fair nuff

[rugged kelp]

it was not known when I posted it

[shy garden]

that's fair

[rugged kelp]

old prompts would work mostly

cant get hyperspecific anyways

[graceful spindle]

hopefully this stream will give me more prompts for future streams anyways

with new capabilties

[shy garden]

perfect alt text

removing: new game stream
since inscryption is currently being played, it is EXTREMELY unlikely that vedal will announce a new game

{ "name": "new game stream", "description": "Vedal adds a new game stream to the schedule (either Neuro, Evil, or himself would stream a game not streamed before by any of them)" },

for readding post-inscryption

bingo is ready

since i know these prompts are fine, i'll push em

pushed, will update the website 30 mins before start

[shy garden]

@graceful spindle can you quickly reach out to this person too? these would be good for evil/neuro respectively just before halloween
#1295441642139943085 message

[graceful spindle]

[shy garden]

@graceful spindle can you cook some internation 18 prompts ontop of the eliv solos?

[graceful spindle]

Yes for sure

Bro so many features were added I feel like ive forgotten some

• Polls
• Titles
• Flips
• sound effect
• call streamers
• dm streamers (same feature iirc)

Was that all?

I feel like there was more

[shy garden]

timeouts

[graceful spindle]

oh and speed talking

[shy garden]

[charred scarab]

there's also google

[graceful spindle]

not really easily verifiable

[charred scarab]

understandable

[shy garden]

going out so current github has a more upstream version, but i can add extra prompts if i have time when i get home

just a failsafe in case i'm still out, means i just remote in, update on server, then rebuild

also thanks @sacred cobalt for the blanket image perms, that new evil xenomorph artwork is PERFECT for today's stream

[sacred cobalt]

Yea, no problem ^^. Hopefully it doesn't scare people away haha

[shy garden]

[graceful spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/upgrades-robots-gif-21291099

[shy garden]

@graceful spindle can you go through inscryption prompts and replace ones which aren't valid anymore?

[graceful spindle]

Yeah was planning on it

I might change a few

Like first death -> first death this stream (I’ll find a better way to word it)

And other such changes

But yes I’ll update and remove them where relevant

[shy garden]

[graceful spindle]

@shy garden do you think neuro will have her new abilities during inscryption?

I assume the sfx and Calls will be off, but she might still be able to make polls and google and change the title

Should we add some of the features to the neuro pool?

[shy garden]

sure, go ahead

[graceful spindle]

Okay Im thinking

-Poll
-Title
-flip

[shy garden]

mhm!

[graceful spindle]

Okay I think I’ve done all my updates/additions

[shy garden]

set bingo up with the new prompts, renamed "first death" to "dies" since it feels more self-explanitory

next stream is aquarium

[graceful spindle]

Oh boy oh boy

[rugged kelp]

toma tries to steal fishes

[shy garden]

[graceful spindle]

Shit she has SFX on

I would of added prompts of that if I knew she would

[kindred crane]

Neuro wants to see a Giraffe , or other not Aquarium animal

Neuro spends atleast 100USD at the gift shop.

Gura gets mentioned when sharks come up.
Neuro Wants to Feed Vedal to the Fish.

[graceful spindle]

@shy garden https://youtu.be/We1XqO-kGzw?si=d6bDE2O6i1IjKfag

Bro we don’t advertise enough

We need a marketing team lmao

[shy garden]

i got contacted by staz for that video, those screenshots are mine

[graceful spindle]

Lmao nice

[shy garden]

i did also go quickly drop 100 bits over at filian to tell her that the bingo exists, but she ignored it lmao

[graceful spindle]

Hey she’ll find out next collab, surely the bingo will migrate to her discord

[shy garden]

yeah probably

i love how some chatters are like "yeah that already exists lol"

more artwork to request usage of
#1289261175611068459 message

@graceful spindle can you make a sheets document to document all the artwork we're allowed to use?

[graceful spindle]

Yes 100% I can
Do you need it before tomorrows stream?

[shy garden]

nah, i can reuse the toma zoo image

but what i do need before tomorrows streams is the rest of the prompts

[graceful spindle]

I’ll try but we asked that artist for artwork ages ago and she/he never responded

[shy garden]

ah

[graceful spindle]

Yeah I know working on it

[shy garden]

don't bother then

such a shame that they're not responding ):

but considering they didn't respond i'll take that as a no

[graceful spindle]

They probably saw it late and didn’t bother to respond

Which is fair imo

[shy garden]

what messages do you even send

cos for general artwork we wanna pick up we shouldn't give them a time limit to respond

i get it for themed artworks, but for general neuro and evil artworks we don't give a time limit

and assume no if we don't get a response

i don't have a 100% themed artwork for aquarium but higher priority is the next bingo prompts

[graceful spindle]

I never gave a time limit

But the last artwork we requested was for the zoo stream

[shy garden]

ah i see...
oh well, ig it's a no from them ):

[graceful spindle]

Unfortunately yeah

Okay

So how many prompts of each category do I need

Just to know

[shy garden]

it's 24 positions, and 3 are taken by chat, so 21 overall... 7 if there's 3 categories

[graceful spindle]

Aye aye capn

[shy garden]

@graceful spindle i need, at minimum:

• 1 more toma prompt
• 3 more irl prompts

if it's not done by 6pm i'll come up with a toma prompt and force all neuro prompts to be used in exchange for irl prompts

[graceful spindle]

I have no idea what time 6pm is for me but I’ll get it done

[graceful spindle]

@shy garden think Im done but please check the feasibility of the IRL prompts if you have time

[graceful spindle]

@shy garden ?

[shy garden]

[graceful spindle]

All good then?

[shy garden]

yeah

i'm speedrunning loading them in

[graceful spindle]

Oh okay all good

I tried to get som done quick last night even though I was pretty drunk lmao

[shy garden]

@graceful spindle i'm gonna load evil into the devstream today but if i'm wrong then i need prompts for both evil and neuro in 1 bucket

nvm we have no evil prompts for dev??

[graceful spindle]

In the future we can just take neuro prompts and make them say evil

Add some of the solo evil prompts too

I’ll make another prompt lisr

Also

[graceful spindle]

This artist actually got back to me funnily enough, right after we talked about it

They gave the go ahead on both artworks we asked of them

[shy garden]

oh damn

which artworks again?

[graceful spindle]

The one linked in your message and this one https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1285276834635714682

[graceful spindle]

Also sorry for not responding earlier today

My pc broke yesterday so I’ve been less on top of things

[shy garden]

is okay! i've been messing with my pc too

[shy garden]

@graceful spindle okay, we can simply refresh the inscryption prompts to match where is in the game now
solo just needs the action prompts added and i can just yoink those from evil unless you have new prompt ideas
main one we need prompts for as a result is the cerber and evil collab, but we don't know much about that, no?

mayber we can ask cerber when she's live...

don't wanna be overbearing tho... so prob not

[graceful spindle]

Hopefully we’ll find out soon

Thankfully its end of the week

[shy garden]

[graceful spindle]

I don’t really have any new ideas for solo stream

Cept for sound effects if I didn’t already add them

I wish their was some visual indication that neuro was googling

Like her getting the code eyes

[shy garden]

indeed... means we can't have it as a prompt

cos we don't know when it's happening

[graceful spindle]

Exactly

[shy garden]

thank god tomorrow is a solo stream and i can take it easy

my current todo list for tomorrow:

• build the new chair i brought
• get bingo ready for stream tomorrow
• completely recreate my home server from scratch

[graceful spindle]

Good luck!
Remember to drink water regularly

[shy garden]

@graceful spindle progress on stuff for for inscryption?

[graceful spindle]

working on it
Act II is the act I have the least know-how about

[graceful spindle]

honestly Im completely lost on new stuff to add this time
I dont really know about new landmarks and plot stuff with act 2

Idk what to add

[shy garden]

if you want we can skip bingo this time, or i could try grab heir...

[graceful spindle]

Yeah Im really sorry man

I should have been more on top of this

My computer bricking temporarily really distracted me

If you can find someone who might better know the game that’d be great

I’d hate to be the reason we skip a bingo

[shy garden]

it's okay! the bingo isn't a huge deal, so i really doubt anyone would be mad if we didn't do today

i'm reaching out to heir just in case they can be of help tho

[graceful spindle]

Okay I understand

This is just the first fan project I’ve ever been a part of, so I wanted to do good. Guess I might have increased its importance in my brain too much

[shy garden]

this ain't a job or anything, i'm not demanding you do all this either. if you can't do it some days then that's fine, the bingo isn't life or death

[shy garden]

@graceful spindle next stream for bingo is the cerber + evil collab, we don't know much about it so try to keep prompts general and universally applicable. as close to a "default collab template" as possible
also remember the above, you aren't required to do any of this and both me and the community really appeciate your contributions

[graceful spindle]

yeah no problem

sorry about before, it was really really late for me so maybe wasnt thinking straight

[shy garden]

hey it's okay! no worries there
partially my fault for not properly considering your timezone

i'll avoid poking you that early in the future

[shy garden]

(i literally went to sleep right after i sent the message here lol)

[graceful spindle]

nah nah you msged me at a good time
it was 9pm for me

I just started working on it too late, twas my mistake

then I responded at 4AM

like a dum dum

[shy garden]

2am is your 9pm

[graceful spindle]

then my next msg was at 4AM

[shy garden]

[graceful spindle]

yeahhhhhh

[shy garden]

my sleeping schedule is totally healthy

please trust

[graceful spindle]

why do all the programmers I know have the most fucked sleep schedules

[shy garden]

average programmer experience

[graceful spindle]

like I have insomnia DISORDER (the actual medical condition) and these programmers sleep worse than me

wild

[shy garden]

damn yeah

at least mine is consistent

tutel's sleep schedule was sane for like 3 days then slipped again

tho rn me and him share a sleep schedule...
maybe the most optimal sleep schedule for british programmers is 12pm - 3am

yes that's the right way around

[graceful spindle]

[shy garden]

god imagine 3am - 12pm

10 hours awake, 14 asleep

dear god how long have i had this project open for

[graceful spindle]

LMAO

[shy garden]

just also realised we have zero evil prompts for dev stream

[graceful spindle]

oh I can make that quick actually

I think ill work on all prompts today

[shy garden]

prioritise the collab

[graceful spindle]

[shy garden]

@graceful spindle we're at minimum for cerber's individual prompts

priortise evil's collab prompts now if possible

[graceful spindle]

The Evil ones are easy but I feel like I dont have very good Cerber prompts…

Meh, I’ll make it work

[shy garden]

it's hard when we don't know much about the stream

[graceful spindle]

Yeah, well I’ll try my best

[shy garden]

at minimum for cerber stream with configuation 10-11 (cerber-evil)

[shy garden]

managed to source an artwork just in time

@sacred cobalt thanks again for the permission to use any artworks you commission, the piece you got paccha to make for cerber and evil is PERFECT

bingo prepped, waiting for any final prompts before 6pm

should stress, that's 6pm GMT

an hour later than usual

[sacred cobalt]

yep, no problem ! Also, you can use this art for Camila and Evil collab too if you want lol #1299718980205809675

[shy garden]

i already noted that down!

i saw you posted it and was like "oh perfect i can use that"

[shy garden]

bingo update:

• The entire board can now have a description, used for extra info if bingo is not happening and little blips if it is (for example, for evil and cerber collab it refers to the cerbification of all names on the board, saying that "whoops! seems like cerber got to the prompts!"
• The description for free spaces can now be overridden, in case more information needs to be added. In this streams case, it's used to comment on how good paccha is at art

i am good at spelling please trust

uhhhhh

[rugged kelp]

tripple credits

[shy garden]

fixed now

just waiting for 2econd to appear and maybe add more prompts if they're up for it

considering cerber has a discord they'll prob go pop it in there too once the data is pushed

[graceful spindle]

Ah okay I just woke up holy moly

I’ll see if I can rapid fire shoot out a few more prompts before you push the update

@shy garden the bark fail prompt is a fucking amazing idea holy

I shoulda thought of that

[shy garden]

lmk when prompts are done!

[graceful spindle]

Im shcmooving

@shy garden okay I think I’m done

I don’t wanna delay you any longer

[shy garden]

unsure about that last evil one

i'll add those new cerber ones tho

ended up only adding cerber howling

[graceful spindle]

Yeah just experimenting for the future tbh

If not viable, remove

[shy garden]

gotcha!

[shy garden]

@graceful spindle published the stream prompts

thanks for your help as always!

next update tomorrow i'll add some credit for you

[graceful spindle]

OH SHIT

I FORGOT TO TELL CERBER DISCORD

[shy garden]

also no stream yet lmao

you got an hour

[graceful spindle]

oh wait was it delayed

bruh I misread teh schedule

crazy

okay we good then

[shy garden]

feel free to share it with cerber discord anyway!

[graceful spindle]

well I guess I fucking cant I got timedout for no given reason
I just cant catch a break man

[shy garden]

[shy garden]

@graceful spindle note to self: don't doubt your prompts ever again

anyway, dev stream!
might just be able to take any vedal + evil collab if there's any already in roster and steal prompts from it

maybe collab?

oh wait that didn't have tutel prompts intentionally

uhh...
good luck!

[graceful spindle]

yeah should be able to also take stuff from the normal dev stream prompts

[graceful spindle]

lmao yeah

[shy garden]

yeah, neuro and evil share quite a few prompts

i'd merge those prompts into a shared root prompt file like i do for chat but they're both really similar but also so different at the same time

idk how to put it...

they share prompts but also not

[graceful spindle]

no I understand

Ill make a new prompt list for evil so we can differentiate them

[shy garden]

cos it feels like neuro will go about e.g. being corpa entirely different from how evil does

[shy garden]

got the artwork for today, still waiting on prompts

fallback today is just to take neuro prompts and change the names

gonna go out today but will be back in time for stream (hopefully)

[shy garden]

@graceful spindle once we have evil prompts we can potentially start queuing solos in advance so, aside from just keeping the prompts up to date, you'll have a guarenteed break on tuesdays

also i'm gonna set something up so you can organise prompts more easily

hmm.. seems like stuff here isn't good enough for what i want for you... guess i'll custom-make one

[shy garden]

just cos this google doc is gonna get more cluttered and cluttered as we go

[graceful spindle]

Agreed and sorry for late response sleep schedule taking a beating

[shy garden]

it's okay!

[graceful spindle]

Yeah I understand what you’re asking of me, but yeah it was a little difficult to sort the evil prompts from the vedal prompts there

And there will end up being a LOT of repeats anyways

[shy garden]

indeed

working on nwero-notes now. it'll be a bit barebones still when i give you access but it'll be much better than the google doc cos then we don't have to scroll down 90 pages to reach the latest collab

[shy garden]

so just use the the fallback? will do
i'll try get neuro notes working by the time the collab rolls around so you can more easily deal with that stuff

is there anything else that could be done to take the weight off you?

maybe finding more prompt people so we're not always relying on you

also adding that credit i'd say i'd add today

[graceful spindle]

Honestly not particularly?
Its honestly sleep schedule and procrastination that delay my prompts most of the time

Also sometimes we don’t have a lot to go off of, (like yesterday’s stream)

I think maybe we just need to streamline the “approval” phase?

Like I’ve just been putting (?) of varying lengths to showcase how unsure I am with prompts, but I never really know what IS and ISNT chosen from my prompt lists? But thats not the end of the world type stuff

Like when you get edit perms you started striking out stuff which was actually really helpful for me

[shy garden]

i'll implement some form of markdown on nwero notes so we can still have that

but a striked out prompt should mean that the prompt is not on the boards, for both of us

e.g. if you deem that a prompt is no longer of relavance, just strike it out so i also know that it needs to go

and if i deny a prompt it'll also be striked out

[graceful spindle]

Yep that makes sense to me

I just realized how helpful it was because I think some of the prompts I have in the current DEV list never went in and I didn’t wanna recreate them for the evil dev list

[shy garden]

if you update a prompt italicise it

that way i know that the prompt needs to change

if you can, put the old prompt in a grayed out color after it

[graceful spindle]

When you’re finished neuro notes, Lets make a style guide here in discord and pin it so we can both quickly reference it

[shy garden]

would it being like a default read-only document on nwero note homepage be fine?

like rn the "homepage" is just where the editor would be saying "Nwero Notes"

i could make it contain the style guide

actually

nah pins here would be best

[graceful spindle]

Whatever works!

[shy garden]

will do pins here for now

but nwero notes might take a bit, i'm having to design it from scratch

also editor may not have styling in it, it'll just be like on old discord

later i'll make it actually render what'll happen

[graceful spindle]

Take your time

I’ll just keep extending my doc for now

Its not unusable by any means yet, Neuro notes is more future proofing then desperate need

[shy garden]

just found out google docs has the main feature i was looking at lol

[graceful spindle]

LMAO

funny

[shy garden]

we might just stick with google docs while i'm developing Nwero Notes

cos then i can build Nwero Notes to contain more extra features that would be beneficial to bingo

such as a sort of "diff" view to view differences between versions of the prompts, that way we don't even need a style guide

[graceful spindle]

smart okay yeah

[shy garden]

but that'll be lter

later

[graceful spindle]

yeah honestly we just need to make it through dev stream and see what V man has in store for us this week

then we can start planning

[shy garden]

[graceful spindle]

@shy garden so whats the thought for tomorrow stream? previous prompts good already?

[shy garden]

i think so!

you can go over them if you want to

[graceful spindle]

[shy garden]

@graceful spindle
today - neuro solo, just using the existing prompts
tomorrow - karaoke, no bingo
thursday - collab, need prompts for this!
already adding:
- mentions cover
- we're so back (the starting soon screen does the same thing as last halloween. might cook something silly for this one too)
friday - inscryption, will need updated prompts for act 3. act 3 seems similar to act 1 so maybe base off that?
saturday - offline, chill
sunday - offline, chill
monday - reuse neuro dev stream prompts

so aside from going over dev prompts and updating inscryption prompts, we just need fully custom prompts for the thursday collab

[swift arrow]

Cloudburst i just noticed that you're a trial mod, congrats on becoming one

[shy garden]

thanks

[shy garden]

@graceful spindle need collab prompts for tomorrow!

[graceful spindle]

Working on it

[shy garden]

taking some workload off you by filling in some of the prompts

[shy garden]

managed to add 6 prompts for evil, one for camila, and 2 generals

so that's just for minimums:
1 evil
6 camila
3 generals

[graceful spindle]

Thank you!

[shy garden]

also i've decided while doing that

it was unfair of me to put all prompt work on you

from now on all prompts will be made by both me and you

you will still receive all the credit on the site, cos i already get the credit from just being known as "bingo mod"

at the very most i might stick a copyright notice on the site along with a source link, but you will still be credited as the person in charge of prompts

don't be afraid to knock down my own prompt suggestions if you think they're bad

[graceful spindle]

I don’t feel like you’ve done me any disrespect or anything, So I hope you don’t feel that way

I do appreciate you helping me on the prompts though!

Question though, wasn’t that copyright thing an issue with cerbers discord? Like if we add it they won’t allow it on discord? Am I mistaken?

[shy garden]

i might just build the website to allow us to toggle it

[graceful spindle]

[shy garden]

speaking of the website doing some stuff, i'm programming something and i really hope people see it and comment on it

[graceful spindle]

Hype!

[graceful spindle]

@shy garden hey do we know if Camila’s stream is themed? There was speculation last dev stream it might have a circus theme but idk if that was ever confirmed

[shy garden]

i honestly don't know

[graceful spindle]

Okay I’m just as clueless lmao

[graceful spindle]

Also @shy garden Camila discord

We both gonna introduce the bingo?

If my mess ups keep escalating as they are I’m gonna get banned this time

[shy garden]

yeah i'll send it myself, busy hiyorifying everything rn tho

[graceful spindle]

No rush!

I’m gonna talk to the discord too but you being a neurocord mod makes you seem a lot less sketchy then I do

[shy garden]

just need one more general prompt and then we're sorted @graceful spindle

[graceful spindle]

Okay on it boss

@shy garden okay I THINK the gen prompts are done? Im unsure if they’ll all come to pass but I mean, thats what the bingo is for I suppose

[shy garden]

mhm! will review in a bit

[graceful spindle]

Btw is there anything I can do to help you? I hope the bingo+modding+side code projects+ whatever irl stuff you have, isn’t overwhelming

I don’t think you need anything but no harm in asking

[shy garden]

i'm fine for now! the bingo usually doesn't require much code modification these days + i can come up with prompts during the day

[graceful spindle]

okay thats great then

[shy garden]

WE MIGHT BE SAVED FROM INSCRYPTION PROMPTS THIS WEEK

https://x.com/Vedal987/status/1852018435712078155

Vedal (@Vedal987) on X

irl pc building friday???

Twitter · Oct 31, 2024, 4:02 PM

adding all prompts now

[graceful spindle]

Okay tell me when its live so I can jump over to Camila discord

Should we contact mods or do you think we’ll be fine

[shy garden]

contact mods pls

if they request my presence i can join the server

actually

if you haven't already i'll contact them

there's extra stuff in the bingo today that i should prob explain

[graceful spindle]

Oh okay
Then lemme know when you/me will send the bingo

I wanna be around when you do so they know they can ask me for questions too, since you’ll be busy with livestream chat

[shy garden]

[shy garden]

site is deployed, contacting camila discord mods now

[graceful spindle]

lemme know how it goes and when you’re posting it

[shy garden]

i'm posting it now, in livechat

[graceful spindle]

Okay!!!

[shy garden]

posted

[graceful spindle]

Yup, just posted for them to ask me of they have questions

I’m excited for the stream

[shy garden]

alrighty, tomorrow will hopefully be pc building stream!

i'll work on the prompts here cos it's tech related and thus my specialty

[graceful spindle]

Neuro will be there too Im sure

[graceful spindle]

also my neuro oracle skills got proven again today

[graceful spindle]

@shy garden great job with the prompts today

[shy garden]

thanks

[graceful spindle]

@shy garden do we need new prompts for tomorrow?

[shy garden]

would be nice to go over them!

can you look at the actual prompts and update the doc accordingly with the new prompts?

https://github.com/CloudburstSys/nwero-bingo/tree/main/public/data/boards/streams/dev

[graceful spindle]

okay I can do that

[shy garden]

thank you!
i'll go over them in the morning and kill any prompts which i don't think would work. can you do the same when moving prompts over + come up with new/updated ones?

no point moving them all over just to remove ones which need removing

easier to remove them when moving them!

[graceful spindle]

yeah I can do that

[shy garden]

uploaded to production, thanks!

[graceful spindle]

Yeah Im sorry for my slow work flow rn, kinda behind on schoolwork so I’m focusing on that atm

[shy garden]

that's okay!

[graceful spindle]

Sorry for not updating any other prompt sets rn, Im kinda under crunch irl

are we gonna be good for the insrcyption stream?

I'll get around to the liar's bar stuff when I can

[shy garden]

inscryption still needs updates annoyingly, but i think act 3 behaves very similarly to act 1?

@proper estuary can you confirm the above?

since you've played the game

[proper estuary]

Vedal is likely finishing it this session

but yes it works mostly like act one

[shy garden]

would you be willing to take a look at the bingo prompt doc and suggest changes to the existing inscryption prompts? they should be act 1 so shouldn't require too much modification @proper estuary

tried to get you a direct link to the line we store it on but google docs sucks ass

so you gotta scroll down to see them

just to take some workload off 2econd (cos they're under crunch rn) and since you know the most about the game here

[graceful spindle]

Yeah I know only about the one big gameplay twist with the final boss but everything else I’m blind to

So I’m not much help there unfortunately

[graceful spindle]

Sorry again, I’ll be able to make liar’s bar prompts though!

[shy garden]

don't apologize! you're entirely in your right to say if you can't handle the workload

even making prompts in the first place is more than enough

try not to feel like you're required to do this stuff!

absolute worst case scenario i can make semi-good prompts myself

[graceful spindle]

Yeah I know…
I’m just kinda still excited/proud(?) I get to be a significant part of a community project

I’ve kinda just lurked in all the communities I’ve been in, in the past. So I think I’m just treating this too seriously atm lmao

Also I’m just an apologetic person

[shy garden]

that's fair

also tomorrow i plan to support very basic hotloading using the latest git commit hash somehow?

if the version changes the bingo will prompt people to reload

and also invalidate any cached bingo card depending on a few factors

[graceful spindle]

Oh? That sounds exciting

I presume this means hotfixing prompts and stuff will be easier?

[shy garden]

it'll make it possible

[graceful spindle]

Oh lmao

Well thats great!

[shy garden]

i can figure out what files were changed

just cos i don't want people to be forced to reload when all i've done is change the resolution of an artwork

[graceful spindle]

[shy garden]

idea is that basically anything inside of /public/data and /src/ would be capable of triggering the refresh mechanism

this does require a webserver tho.. hmm...

this might require the sveltekit migration.. hmm...

or at least some sort of webserver

[shy garden]

just needs to be a very basic webserver.. i can prob have it run on a different container with access to the nwero-bingo files as a volume, that way i can run it externally without messing with the bingo itself until i get around to sveltekit migration

[proper estuary]

@shy garden I have updated the Inscyption section
You can change any of the "uses item" cards to "obtains item" (except for battery and hammer) if you want since they are locked behind puzzles and idk if vedal will stand up again in the Act

[graceful spindle]

thank you for your help Heir

[proper estuary]

[shy garden]

might not have hotloading supported in time, feels like it might be more of a "gotta migrate to sveltekit properly" thing

[graceful spindle]

Okay! Take your time!
Better to do things right rather then fast

[shy garden]

[graceful spindle]

Btw I’ll be done the liars bar prompts tonight, thats a promise

[shy garden]

perfect, thanks!

[graceful spindle]

Welp that was an interesting stream

[shy garden]

avoid discussion here as well, but that was def something 😭
anyway, liars bar!

[graceful spindle]

BINNGO DONE

smaAOUNTS MRJIGHT BE WRONG
IF IM AWAKE LKLME KNOW

[graceful spindle]

Onsh also freel fee to add more

[graceful spindle]

@shy garden good morning

[shy garden]

morning!

i've loaded stuff in, also added a funny easter egg to your vedal misplays prompt

waiting for artwork permissions now

[graceful spindle]

[swift arrow]

i just reloaded my bingo tab and it seems like i'm gonna be having that issue where the damn thing doesn't update properly again (i didn't look at bingo during inscryption stream btw)

[graceful spindle]

Im not sure the new bingo has been published

@shy garden

[shy garden]

new bingo hasn't been published, give me a bit

workin on it

[swift arrow]

hold on let me show you what happens when i reload the tab

[graceful spindle]

no rush just confirming

[graceful spindle]

its not updated yet
it should be the old one still

wait a bit please

[swift arrow]

this is what happens when i reload. i would expect to get the inscryption bingo after reload but i don't

[graceful spindle]

oh
does hitting the current board button work

[swift arrow]

nope

[graceful spindle]

welp
I had that issue before too idk why

[swift arrow]

it just does the same thing as reloading the tab

[sacred cobalt]

Looks like I also have the same issue. Force reload doesn't update the board for me. Using incognito mode does work tho

I can see the schedule.json file loaded correctly with the inscryption one

and errors on the console

[shy garden]

huh

lemme take a look

@sacred cobalt @swift arrow i loaded the liars bar just now, see if you can reload

[shy garden]

this isn't anything related to the bingo

if liars bar loads then bingo is operating as intended, if you don't load a bingo card before 12pm UTC of the next day then it won't load

[swift arrow]

nope

[shy garden]

even a force refresh? ctrl+r?

[swift arrow]

nope

[sacred cobalt]

works for me in chrome

[shy garden]

hmm.. would either of you be willing to hop in #574720535888396292? this is potentially sounding like a browser incompatibility

[swift arrow]

the last time this happened to me was in the middle of a dev or inscryption stream and what finally fixed it for me was opening the bingo through the link that you posted in #livestream-chat (btw back then i was still using opera)

[shy garden]

that's very weird...

can you hop in vc and screenshare? no need to talk if you don't want to

[swift arrow]

yeah 2 hours

works now

[shy garden]

issue was caching, gonna move to sveltekit sooner or later

that'll fix it

[sacred cobalt]

caching

[graceful spindle]

@shy garden We're good for evil and dev stream right?

[shy garden]

evil i just plan to load evil solo

dev i can load devstream prompts

yep

you've got 2 day vacation

[graceful spindle]

Ive been thinking
can we lower the amount of vedal or neuro prompts in dev stream by 2
so we can have a temp category for like, recent stuff?
like

• liars bar stream mentioned
  or stuff like that?

or should we just keep it simple?

[shy garden]

preferably keep it simple

also him mentioning stuff is guarenteed

[graceful spindle]

True

[graceful spindle]

@shy garden okay there is gonna be a numi collab this week unless anything changed from last week

So I’ll write some generic numi collab prompts till we learn the theme

[shy garden]

sounds like a plan to me!

[graceful spindle]

Also I’ve actually been in the Numi discord for a longtime so hopefully I don’t get destructo beamed when we send the bingo this time

But I’ll reach out to the mods closer to the actual collab date to make sure

[shy garden]

either i or you can

[graceful spindle]

@shy garden okay so with the schedule out do you think its a safe bet to assume that the collab will be with neuro not Evil?

[shy garden]

no fucking clue

just go neuro

and i'll die in your place if it's evil

[swift arrow]

last time (iirc from clip channels and the official neurosama youtube) it was evil with numi so i feel like it's likely that it's going to be neuro this time

[shy garden]

@graceful spindle it's looking like we're gonna have zero info on this collab, so if you can make some generic prompts that'll help

[graceful spindle]

Got it

[shy garden]

i think we may be cooked tonight

[swift arrow]

Oh are the prompts not at all done?

[shy garden]

yeah we've not got enough prompts rn

it's very hard to make prompts for a collab where we not only don't know what's happening, but also don't even know whether it's neuro or evil

[graceful spindle]

Nah I’m built different

Prompts are almost done

BUT
Should we add the prompt

• Switches Twin
  Cause maybe its just my oracle schizo going on but we know from the bao stream and the News stream that Vedal has the ability to hot swap the twins

So we might see both

@shy garden

[shy garden]

you're literally the neuro oracle and this has been proven several times

do it

[graceful spindle]

Okay

Roast me publicly if I’m wrong

[shy garden]

[graceful spindle]

Okay I have the minimum amount now

Might add more

Not sure yet

@shy garden should we reach out to Numi discord mods now or wait till closer time?

[shy garden]

wait a sec

[graceful spindle]

take your time

[graceful spindle]

@shy garden looks like there is no stream theme, not even Numi specified one

[shy garden]

we just roll with generic then

but at least specified that it's neuro!

[graceful spindle]

true

[shy garden]

bingo updated

@graceful spindle you're free to contact numi discord, tell them if they want to contact me directly regarding the specifics of the hosting/codebase to let you know and i'll provide

can you send an invite in dms as well pls?

[graceful spindle]

okay doing now

will send invite too

[graceful spindle]

fuck

[graceful spindle]

@shy garden we’re good for dev stream right?

[shy garden]

should be

[shy garden]

cooked a bingo but vedal cancelled devstream

oh well

[graceful spindle]

Well now I got a twin stream to cook prompts for

Love those

[shy garden]

oh shit i didn't even see that

[shy garden]

got 2 days to do this

[shy garden]

@graceful spindle i added a few to help out

[graceful spindle]

Thanks, sorry been having a really rough week

I’ll get it done

[shy garden]

it's okay!

[shy garden]

messed with minimums and stole prompts from previous streams, now at minimum for all buckets

additional prompts will add randomness

[graceful spindle]

Will add more sorry for being slow

Was on a bus commuting and google docs didn’t wanna save my work well

Thank you for the help I appreciate it

Sorry for not carrying my weight lmao

[shy garden]

it's okay! i haven't been carrying my weight recently either

[graceful spindle]

Nah you have a lot on your plate anyways

Modding and bingo + any irl stuff, besides your bingo work is much harder than mine

[shy garden]

you literally have education, i've finished mine

[shy garden]

pushing update

[graceful spindle]

Yeah I couldn’t come up with anything good, sorry

I know until dawn really well tho so I should be able to do that one well

[graceful spindle]

@shy garden do we have layna+Neuro art for next bingo?

[shy garden]

no clue

[graceful spindle]

until dawn time

[graceful spindle]

@shy garden hey btw I havent added many but can you deciede minimums for the until dawn prompts? when you have time of course

[shy garden]

7;7;7 unless stated otherwise

[graceful spindle]

got it thanks

[shy garden]

not got enough prompts for tonight

got enough for neuro

[shy garden]

managed to crowdsource some prompts, we're at minimums

[graceful spindle]

Oof sorry just woke up

[shy garden]

it's okay

i needed a slight rush today because i'm hopefully gonna be upgrading my pc today, so might not have time later

[shy garden]

bingo now detects when it's outdated

and prompts user to reload

[graceful spindle]

Dude huge upgrades!

[shy garden]

also fixed caching issues by just.. disabling caching entirely

[graceful spindle]

[graceful spindle]

okay wtf

doug doug collab

[shy garden]

good luck

wait

@craggy yoke ping cos i wanna add you to the forum post

we're gonna need help with dougdoug prompts and i know for a fact you'll know the most

[craggy yoke]

idk what they're even doing

[shy garden]

geoguesser

[craggy yoke]

oh really

so Neuro vs Doug?

[shy garden]

if you don't wanna help you don't need to

i think so

we can pivot prompts as we learn more e.g. from doug's streams

vedal is notorious for not telling us what's happening

[craggy yoke]

Neuro says Doug is bad at 2D platformers

[shy garden]

oh that's a classic

i watched one dougdoug stream and i know that's a classic

[graceful spindle]

yeah I have some good ideas, just need to watch Dougs stream with his Chat AI to see if it has any habits

[craggy yoke]

dougdoug fan jokes:

1. bald
2. bad at 2D platformers
3. hates poor people
4. "r/wehatedougdoug will hear about this"
5. catchphrase ("Welcome to DougDoug, where we solve problems nobody has.")
6. Chat/Doug is divorced

[graceful spindle]

Does the chat still strike all the time

[craggy yoke]

striking is banned

[swift arrow]

cloudburst, are you able to hot-swap the prompts yet? (asking since you said that you pushed neuro bingo prompts, when it happened to be that it's gonna be evil chill stream)

[shy garden]

yeah i added hotswapping

gonna do it now

[swift arrow]

alright

[shy garden]

done

[craggy yoke]

oooh i got one, "Parkzer shows up"

[graceful spindle]

erm time to write bingo prompts I guess

[shy garden]

add "vedal duet mentioned" cos it might come up

[craggy yoke]

"Teletric mentioned by either streamer"

[shy garden]

btw we should prob start preparing assuming there's a subathon

[graceful spindle]

oh fuck...

[shy garden]

okay need dougdoug by tomorrow night, subathon prompts can be on a slow cook

[graceful spindle]

Cooking now

[shy garden]

[graceful spindle]

@shy garden so I was doing dougdoug prompts and I realized idk if his pov will be on our stream, should I still add them and we just prompt users to open both streams?

[shy garden]

assume no pov of dougdoug

[graceful spindle]

okay, Ill just dump out all my ideas and we can sort and veto after, better for my workflow

[shy garden]

mhm!

[shy garden]

@graceful spindle there's another stream after the dougdoug collab

[graceful spindle]

Yeah I heard

[shy garden]

the bingo DOES have support for overriding when a bingo board starts/ends, but how do we do this

[graceful spindle]

I still need to solidify my dougdoug prompts

And I have no idea what this sponsered game is about

We’re cooked

[graceful spindle]

@shy garden do I even bother to make prompts for filian stream?

[shy garden]

if you don't know the game...

yeah skip for now

[graceful spindle]

Yeah no fucking clue

[graceful spindle]

Got it

[shy garden]

[craggy yoke]

looking forward to bingo for tonight, would it be okay to share the link in Doug's server? I can get permission from mods there

[shy garden]

go right ahead, but only do it when it's published

else they'll get confused

i'm waiting for umbrella to provide 3 more doug prompts and 3 more neuro prompts

oh his chat

it's 3 more game prompts and 3 more neuro prompts

do we even know if vedal's gonna be there on stream

[graceful spindle]

He implied he would be during the dev stream

Unless im mistaken

If so

Fuck

I just checked

He said “me and Neuro”

@craggy yoke hey can you confirm that doug is gonna use AI for Geoguessr and not Chat integration?
is anything said in dougcord?

guess im checking myself

Dougcord thinks itll be AI too so Im gonna stick with that

[craggy yoke]

we don't know

[graceful spindle]

Im gonna die

@shy garden okay I think im done please check feasibility
sorry for lateness

[shy garden]

perfect timing, loading them in now

[graceful spindle]

Btw I just added Mile conversions to the Km distances
might wanna add that if you didnt already

[shy garden]

i'm just starting to add stuff now

thanks

[graceful spindle]

np

@shy garden lemme know when you're done and me and Teletric will post it in Dougcord
you gonna join dougcord too or do you want me to be the rep for questions over there since you gotta moderate?

I know thats a handful already

[shy garden]

updated

back to building pc

[graceful spindle]

@craggy yoke bingo is updated, we can spread it to dougcord now

just let them know I helped make it so they can ask me for questions and clarifications

[graceful spindle]

Goodluck btw!!!

@craggy yoke it would be great if you posted it there cause I have a history of people thinking Im a scam bot for some reason

he vanishes when I need him the most