Project Diva Neuro/Evil Mod

[simple portal]

is this thing working

[fringe hedge]

yes of course!

[ornate veldt]

Ok, do you have any preferences for IDs, or just whatever happens to be empty?

[simple portal]

[ornate veldt]

Also, I think I'll have to go to sleep now, but we can probably try to get something (somewhat) functional tomorrow. The technical stuff is something I can do remotely

So I can do that more than I can the audio stuff.

[simple portal]

yep

[ornate veldt]

We'll continue tomorrow. I'll probably need some of the metadata settings you used for the chart

[simple portal]

no biggie

im looking further into charting too

just need like a ton of reference

at least i can playtest inside comfy studio

[ornate veldt]

Well, I guess the references would be where the game would come in handy

[simple portal]

sh

[ornate veldt]

But if you can get something functional without the game, that falls within the "whatever works" category so it's fine

[simple portal]

indeed

[ornate veldt]

Welp, I'll go to sleep now

[ornate veldt]

Should have done that like an hour ago

[simple portal]

prob cuz me

[ornate veldt]

It's fine, I can handle a bit less sleep

[ornate veldt]

@fringe hedge Do you have any specific preference for song IDs, or is whatever happens to be free fine? (that would apparently be around 8000-9000)

[fringe hedge]

i have no preference!

[ornate veldt]

So 8000-9000 range is fine then?

[fringe hedge]

also i haven’t yet! i want to but i will be honest. I do not have the funds for this even if someone dies

[fringe hedge]

yeah!

[ornate veldt]

Alright, I'll try to just make it work then or something

[ornate veldt]

I think I should be able to try implementing the custom song soon, but I'll need to know some parameters to set up all the metadata correctly

[agile dome]

btw what neuro models are you using?

[ornate veldt]

mea is working with Taprieiko's new Neuro model

[agile dome]

i wonder if these could work

[ornate veldt]

That is the exact model mea is trying

[agile dome]

ah

[ornate veldt]

You can try yourself though, none of us really understand 3D models, so you have no less of a chance than any of us

[agile dome]

well, maybe i'll wait until the next sale

[ornate veldt]

Sure, we're not in a hurry

By the way, we're gonna try adding custom songs, but we have no graphics. Could you make some kind of placeholders or something at some point (three distinct textures, so that we can figure out where each one is used)

I can send the templates

[agile dome]

i can try

can you send said templates?

[ornate veldt]

Let me just grab them first

[agile dome]

what should i do with them?

[ornate veldt]

I guess add something in place of the filled-in parts

The first one that has two sprites should have the sprite areas completely filled in, the other one can have transparency

[agile dome]

lmao sketchbook is tryna tell me that .png isn't supported

[ornate veldt]

That's just stupid

[agile dome]

lmao

[ornate veldt]

You can look at the guide to get more info for what should be there and what settings should be used

[agile dome]

(not a name reveal, sorry)

i guess i'll just

[ornate veldt]

I hope we don't need any special settings Paint can't reproduce

[agile dome]

should i put the pixel dimensions back on too?

[ornate veldt]

Just write what texture it is. The 720p one is called "backgound", the one next to it is called "jacket" and the one in the seperate file is called "logo"

[agile dome]

1st one done

[ornate veldt]

Looks like that'll work for a placeholder

[agile dome]

i mean, the gray boxes would too

[ornate veldt]

That one has slightly more info

[agile dome]

so i can merge those layers down?

[ornate veldt]

It should just be a regular transparent png at the end, I don't think those have layer data

[agile dome]

it'll be saved as a flat image due to png nature, i just wanted to know if i should keep it layered for adjustments or merge it and start with the next one

[ornate veldt]

Whatever works for you

[agile dome]

no fucking way these are not even aligned

lmao

[ornate veldt]

That's what the game wants

[agile dome]

i know

which is why it's so funny to me

[ornate veldt]

Devs not bothering to align textures is probably pretty common

[agile dome]

1st is done

[ornate veldt]

Looks functional

[simple portal]

have you succeed adding song to the game

[ornate veldt]

I'll need some of the parameters from the chart first, that I can't get directly from the file

We still also need an ID

[agile dome]

maybe i should look into graphic design
too bad it doesn't pay any money lmao

[simple portal]

[ornate veldt]

If you want to do something, you should probably do it(I think)

[simple portal]

is it because the export file i send yesterday

[agile dome]

i have little idea of what my plans on the future are
anyway i'll be making the last file now

[ornate veldt]

We'll want the metadata we add now to be accurate with the final version, since it would be annoying to replace

[simple portal]

i see

me in the meantime

[ornate veldt]

That is certainly something

If you want to know what we need exactly, it's most of the stuff for the pv_db

[simple portal]

yeah but since i can't test it in game i dont even know this will be anything

[agile dome]

yo i wanna do that at some point

making own charts has been on my mind ever since i first started playing mirai

[simple portal]

you mean this

[simple portal]

just get into comfy studio

[ornate veldt]

You can probably make charts for some of the songs. The more people working on all the different parts, the faster it'll be done

[simple portal]

im charting 1 min song for like 2 days now

[agile dome]

there's different difficulty levels too, maybe we could split those up to different people

[simple portal]

and the song is 3 and half minutes

[ornate veldt]

No, I need the data in the part of the tutorial that's about the pv_db file

That's the song metadata

[agile dome]

last one done

here's both at once

[ornate veldt]

All, rigth, now I just need the metadata and ID

[agile dome]

i doubt i can help with that

[ornate veldt]

Yeah, I'll need those from FlashFire

[agile dome]

is there any more graphic design to be done?

[ornate veldt]

I don't think we have any right now. You could do Neuro clicker instead

[agile dome]

i'm working on neuro clciker by getting sandro to work on it instead lol (i doubt i could do the thing i asked him to do)

[ornate veldt]

I saw it

[ornate veldt]

@simple portal We now mainly only need the pv_db stuff and the ID before it should be functional

[fringe hedge]

if we do want custom album art for any custom songs i’m genuinely really interested in drawing some

[ornate veldt]

Well, Xodabeef also wants to draw art for the mod

But I think we can have 2 artists

[ornate veldt]

If you want, you could make a more permanent set of art for world.execute(me) once we know what all the textures do

Unless Xodabeef does it first

[fringe hedge]

yeah! i mean. we’ll see! I’ve been way too busy to do much with school and stuff so i’m sorry i haven’t been active. uber stressed and a lot of my current dev work has been for my senior project. but i’ve been daydreaming abt making neuro MVs when i have the chance and this is as good an excuse im gonna get. but if xodabeef is also interested i don’t wanna step on her toes

[ornate veldt]

I think having more people on all the different parts of the project is just a good thing. Xodabeef can do some of the songs, while you can also do some of them

It just makes the process faster

[agile dome]

i'll be busy with school next week too

and you absolutely woulnd't "step on my toes", i think everyone who wants to help should get the chance to

and in terms of high res art, i think i'm much less talented than you

[ornate veldt]

I guess I'll just take an ID like 8444 or something, it's not reserved for anything, so I'll make world.execute(me) use that

[simple portal]

here's the file chart to open in comfy studio i think

[ornate veldt]

I don't have it. I need some parameters and the exported file

I can tell you what parameters I'll need

[simple portal]

what is it

[ornate veldt]

I'll tell you after I finish doing this graphics stuff

Alright, first I'll need the script for the chart, named in the format "pv_8444_[difficulty].dsc"

[simple portal]

like this

[ornate veldt]

Looks right

[simple portal]

try it

[ornate veldt]

Next, I'll need the bpm you used while charting

[simple portal]

erm

oh

130

just the number right

[ornate veldt]

Yeah

[simple portal]

this then

[ornate veldt]

The final thing should be the song preview start time and duration

This is the instructions for that part

The song preview I assume is the part of the song that plays when selecting it on the menu

[simple portal]

yeah

so this

[ornate veldt]

After that I should be fine to test it and see if I get a glorious game crash

[simple portal]

and this

[ornate veldt]

Looks right

[simple portal]

[ornate veldt]

I like crashing games in funny ways

[simple portal]

the chart is also incomplete

only first minute is charted

[ornate veldt]

That shouldn't matter, as the file should be easy to change

[simple portal]

yeah

if you want to test it tho

i dunno how scuff it will be

and just to see we can chart without the game

that will be glorious

[ornate veldt]

I haven't really played the game, might try to do that at some point though, but this test is only to see if we can throw audio into the game

[simple portal]

yep yep

if only you can stream so i can see what happen

[ornate veldt]

Oh my Neuro-Sama it worked first try

[simple portal]

send pict

play it with auto

to see if its working

[ornate veldt]

I didn't know that was an option, where is that?

[simple portal]

you have the game

[ornate veldt]

I guess I need to find it then

[simple portal]

usually they have the option for auto

[ornate veldt]

I'll see if it exists

[simple portal]

should be somewhere

right

erm

[ornate veldt]

I'm still not sure how to stop a music video, I'm waiting for it to end

[simple portal]

just esc i guess

[ornate veldt]

No, I have tried that

[simple portal]

so the map is working properly

[ornate veldt]

This is where the graphics go by the way, kinda important for later

[simple portal]

noted

so its possible now

we need someone to test the map too then

surely that thing is scuff

[ornate veldt]

There's no end button that I can see for the msuc videos (literally pressed like every button)

Oh, I found it. For some stupid reason it's f2

[simple portal]

check the control maybe

[ornate veldt]

Also there's no auto option, the closest thing is no fail mode

[simple portal]

yeah im searching it too

apperantely you need some tampering for autoplay

well i guess no fail is also work

[ornate veldt]

The chart does work though, but I don't remember the controls

[simple portal]

[ornate veldt]

But the important part is it works

[simple portal]

shit is working

thats the important thing

[ornate veldt]

I seriously expected at least a freeze or a crash, I didn't think it would just work first try like that

[simple portal]

power of neuro-sama bestow us

we are cooking

[ornate veldt]

There is still one more main thing to figure out if we want more than 1 song, but that shouldn't be that hard

That thing being sprite metadata

[simple portal]

yeah as charting one isnt already taxing enough

lemme update the list

[ornate veldt]

Ok

[simple portal]

bump my owm message, might also reserving this chat for something eslse

[ornate veldt]

The fact that the game's modding is so well documented (and a bit of programmer logic) really makes this easy on the technical side of things

[simple portal]

done editing it

and i think that for today from me too

[ornate veldt]

I think I should go to sleep, before today becomes a repeat of yesterday

[simple portal]

exactly

[ornate veldt]

We made some great progress today

[simple portal]

indeed

now just focusing to get other stuff to put now

well we will see tomorrow i guess

[ornate veldt]

Yeah, currently the metadata has a LOT of placeholder stuff, and all textures are placeholders. We also don't have lyrics defined yet

[simple portal]

its one the list

https://tenor.com/view/venom-gif-27487650

well anyway good night

[ornate veldt]

Yeah, good night

[agile dome]

btw with songs that already exist we can just jeep the charts right?

[ornate veldt]

Yep, that's how it already works with the another_song dot function

[ornate veldt]

@fringe hedge We got world.execute(me) to work in-game and now know where and how the graphics show-up. Now we need more permanent graphics instead of the placeholders if you want to make those at some point. Here's how the graphics show up: #1206833805827244073 message

[ornate veldt]

These are the templates for the graphics (what the final file formatting has to be for it to work in-game)

[agile dome]

hmm, seems my placeholders do fit the style like i intended them to

https://youtu.be/ESx_hy1n7HA also, this'd be the official world.execute(me) MV

for style

[ornate veldt]

Interesting.

Whatever works

We could do a Neuro themed version of that

Or something like that. We could also make something completely different, since it's our mod

[agile dome]

ahh 3 songs on max diff left, and i'll have all song-unlockable room items

[ornate veldt]

In what?

[agile dome]

mirai

i'm trying to 100% it

[ornate veldt]

Ok, I have no idea what that game is, but I guess that's cool

[agile dome]

it's the diva equivalent on 3ds

there's also project sekai on mobile devices

[ornate veldt]

Interesting. We'll be modding DIVA though, I don't have a 3DS and both the 3DS and mobile devices are really hard to get doing custom stuff

[agile dome]

yup

it's interesting how different the difficulty curves of the two games are

this'll be pain https://youtu.be/Q0log8NeI6s

[ornate veldt]

Ok I guess. That song has a Neuro cover I'm pretty sure

[agile dome]

actually i wonder what it's like in diva

[ornate veldt]

DIVA doesn't have that I think, but we'll add it in anyway

Since we know how to do it now, it shouldn't be that difficult

[agile dome]

aww that one's not in the big zip you sent me

in fact there's no duos at all if i see correctly

[ornate veldt]

I need to check the origin files real quick

Indeed, I somehow missed including the duets, so there's actually more than 255 Neuro covers including the duets

[agile dome]

it appears matryoshka indeed has not been in any Diva title, excluding mods

[ornate veldt]

There are now 291 files in the Neuro covers only folder I have, which is a bunch more

[simple portal]

I'm searching it on YouTube and realize there's no Matryoshka song

[agile dome]

hi flash

[simple portal]

Yo

[agile dome]

not in diva

[simple portal]

Yeah that's what I mean

I just want to see the chart

If there's one

[agile dome]

i think it's not just in mirai but in sekai as well, which makes me wonder why it's not in any diva game

https://youtu.be/1cenprqflb0 here's a mod

[simple portal]

So are we planning to make entire new video for current world execute, or just proceed with livestream video

[agile dome]

hmm, that's a good question

[simple portal]

Holy this video really old

[agile dome]

of course

all the classic vocaloid songs are from vocaloid's prime time, which is around the 2010s i believe

god i can't type

[simple portal]

For now I'm following the livestream video to making the chart

Honestly with chat scrolling fast doesn't help with the gameplay

[agile dome]

this could be an orientation for the video, maybe https://youtu.be/MKWCvla3OWM (if you don't want to be pained with whatever the og video is

[simple portal]

But you can adjust the dim

[agile dome]

i gotta check how suitable clipchamp is, otherwise i have openshot

[simple portal]

This also a good visual for the video

https://youtu.be/OnO46zjqvPA?si=xo1VD0IdBhH9QK-u

[agile dome]

ok clipchamp is, as expected, barely suitable

[simple portal]

We yet to get someone to test the chart if it feels right

and playable of course

[agile dome]

oh god my pc is struggling

i thought a laptop with 3070 and ryzen 7 5000 would be able to edit a few minutes of video, guess i'm mistaken

[ornate veldt]

I have a 4070Ti paired with an i7-12700K and even that sometimes takes a while to render a video

[agile dome]

it's probably because it's a live preview

[ornate veldt]

That is possible. My PC doesn't struggle with rendering a live preview though, at least I don't think it does

[simple portal]

Laptop is generally weaker than PC so

[ornate veldt]

Yeah, that's true. Apparently the 3080 laptop is 20% slower than desktop

[agile dome]

3070 vs 4070ti is a big difference too, even with desktops

[agile dome]

not necessarily

depends mostly on thermal throtteling, which i have none of

[ornate veldt]

Yeah, the 4070Ti is pretty close to a 3090

Possibly slightly faster

[agile dome]

here's the insane video editing skills i learned over the course of the last 20 minutes

and my pc struggling

[ornate veldt]

Yeah, that's really lagging. My PC doesn't do that, it's fully smooth. I use a different video editor though

[agile dome]

i should upload that to youtube, i'll get famous

[agile dome]

which one? i'm using openshot simply because dad installed it and said it's good

[ornate veldt]

I use CapCut, no idea how good it is, but it's worked pretty well so far

[simple portal]

I also use capcut to editing my video

[agile dome]

i'll check it out

[simple portal]

You should

It's free and pretty easy to use

[ornate veldt]

What's the plan with the video stuff by the way? Encoding the video is a pain, so I'd rather not have to redo it

Especially since defender thinks the encoder is a virus

[agile dome]

just tell it to shut up about that program

[simple portal]

It's either we yoink another video, making new one for this map, or just continue with current livestream video

[ornate veldt]

Yeah, I told it to ignore it, but I'm not sure if I should try to run the encoder in a native environment to see if it would take less than an hour to encode a 3 minute video or something. (I ran it in a VM before)

[ornate veldt]

I don't know if I want to re-encode the video, since it literally takes an hour. I'd also have to completely redo the audio and you'd probably have to move the chart, so I feel like we should stick with the video we have now

[agile dome]

interesting, capcut just looks like a modern openshot
i'd hope it's also better optimized

[simple portal]

Just experiment with it

[ornate veldt]

Well, I have no idea about how optimized it is, since my hardware is so powerful

[simple portal]

So it think we just work with the current thing we got then

[ornate veldt]

Yeah

[simple portal]

You are too op

[ornate veldt]

Otherwise we redo everything from scratch

[agile dome]

oh thank god, keyframes
i haven't figured out how to keyframe on openshot sdo that's already a big plus

[simple portal]

We also lack the talent to making one

Except if there's one out there already making one

[ornate veldt]

I don't even have my 64GB of RAM yet, that's still coming

[simple portal]

Like lagtrain amv I just saw on NN

And near amv

That stuff is good

[ornate veldt]

We can experiment with more stuff when we add other songs, but for now we should go with the video we have now

[simple portal]

Might as well make a Neuro for yourself

[ornate veldt]

I do plan on playing with LLMs once I have the RAM and some time

And I already have a TTS that replicates Evil's voice

[simple portal]

With all the power you have, yes

[agile dome]

i plan on making a (neuro) lagtrain amv with german trains once i'm skilled enough

[simple portal]

German train

[ornate veldt]

Well, that would work for Lagtrain once we add it then

[ornate veldt]

I just happen to have a really stupidly good PC and way too much storage. I'll definitely try to set up an LLM of some kind

[simple portal]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-doctor-octopus-the-power-of-the-sun-in-the-palm-of-my-hand-sun-gif-23770857

You literally

[ornate veldt]

When it comes to compute, pretty much

It really only has one issue: heat. The room the PC is in is like a couple degrees hotter than the rest of the building

It can become quite uncomfortable at times

[simple portal]

Now I'm thinking about that

How hot it will when Neuro is running on ved PC

[agile dome]

oh why can't i just drag in media

[simple portal]

You can tho

Just drag them in

[agile dome]

i try, but i can't

[simple portal]

[ornate veldt]

I have no idea, but I really can't keep the temps of my PC ON IDLE under control by literally venting heat into -30 degrees outside

[simple portal]

Skill issue

[ornate veldt]

I'm pretty sure you can just drag stuff in from explorer

[agile dome]

oops wrong scene adjustment

[simple portal]

Add it to the timeline below

Where the clip goes

[agile dome]

this is what i mean

oh it didn't show cursor

[ornate veldt]

Might just be Win11

[simple portal]

Also try adding it manually I guess

[ornate veldt]

Explorer looked like it wasn't liking it

[simple portal]

Since we working on world execute me now, I guess I need to make another progress list for that

[simple portal]

I'll get to that when I got home

[ornate veldt]

Try to drag it on the import button or something, I have no idea why it isn't working

[agile dome]

i am just importing manually

[simple portal]

Yeah maybe just try import it through the capcut

[agile dome]

annoying but oh well

[agile dome]

that's what i'm doing

[simple portal]

Win 11

[ornate veldt]

Windows 11 breaking everything as always I guess

[simple portal]

Or maybe just restart your device might work

[ornate veldt]

That's why I don't use it

[simple portal]

Yeah no need to upgrade if everything still working properly

[ornate veldt]

I have no plans on upgrading any time soon. I just have no reason to and it's just objectively worse than 10

Whenever I run into a Win11 machine, I tend to find issues that wouldn't occur on a Win10 machine

[simple portal]

Win 11 is a trap

Imagine they need to do win 11.1

[ornate veldt]

Win 11 is the new Vista (but even worse). We'll see if Win 12 is another broken mess of garbage

[agile dome]

it's not vista

my dude, 11 is so far from Vista

have you experienced Vista?

11 is perfect in comparison

[ornate veldt]

I was just generating a computer related joke

[simple portal]

[ornate veldt]

Fun fact: I'm pretty sure if you try to quit DIVA before the menu music initializes, the game freezes and has to be ended in task manager. Very (in)convenient

[simple portal]

Maybe windows 13 will be a better product

[ornate veldt]

Who knows if they'll ever make another functional version of Windows

[simple portal]

Will be handy if I get the game

When there's budget and another sale prob

[ornate veldt]

I've just become so fast in the menus I run into that every now and then

[simple portal]

Please nerf yourself

[ornate veldt]

I can't. It's basically "hard-coded" to me to be very fast at using a keyboard to navigate menus

I basically can't slow down due to muscle memory or something

[simple portal]

I wonder if your keyboard is also missing key like Vedal does

Prob not since it's Tutel scuff

[ornate veldt]

It only has a slightly malfunctioning spacebar since when I made the Evil TTS dataset

Othrewise it still has all the keys it came with functioning

But I still need a seperate keyboard for programming since the main one just never even had one of the keys I need

I just have two keyboards sitting on the table for different purposes

[simple portal]

Very handy

[agile dome]

where is skewing

[ornate veldt]

And then if I need something random I have like 4 PCs behind where I sit

[simple portal]

Skew what

[agile dome]

how do i do this in capcut

[simple portal]

Erm

You distort the video itself with coordinate I think

I rarely do that

[agile dome]

where is that

[simple portal]

Maybe use animation instead

[agile dome]

i may just stay with openshot and find out how to set keyframes efficiently

[simple portal]

Can't help much since I'm outside

[ornate veldt]

I'm trying to look for stuff in the interface, I'll let you know if I find it

[simple portal]

Tell me too I'm curious

Also is it fine if we just chat random stuff here

[ornate veldt]

Probably

[simple portal]

I guess we are fine to discuss anything if we want then

It's just us here in the thread

[ornate veldt]

Yep, haven't seen anyone else at least. It's just the mod development team here

[agile dome]

i may just take a smal break, i'm tired

[simple portal]

Dunno how long till I'm finishing the chart

This is really unknown territory for me

[ornate veldt]

Well, we're not in any hurry, I still need to learn to play the game

I can't really seem to find anything to do that in CapCut

Either scewing is hidden, or doesn't exist

[simple portal]

Welp

[agile dome]

i gotta go out and get a steam gift card

should i try to find one right now?

yes i should, i bet mom's gonna ask me if i was outside at all again

[ornate veldt]

What do you need a gift card for?

[agile dome]

money

[ornate veldt]

What are you planning to get with it?

[ornate veldt]

That makes sense I guess.

I usually don't put mony on my Steam account, but just buy the games directly

But whatever system you want to use

[agile dome]

well, i can't 'buy directly'

since my card carrier doesn't know what "working server system" means

meaning gift cards are my only way of getting money into digital marketscapes

[ornate veldt]

I guess they don't have someone experienced enough to make proper servers then

Well, as long as it works

[simple portal]

[agile dome]

i just noticed that it's 39,39

lmao

[simple portal]

You just realized that

[ornate veldt]

That is kinda odd

[agile dome]

it's a thingy

hard to describe

[ornate veldt]

I think the number "39" is somehow related to Miku or something, so that might be why

[agile dome]

39 is miku's 69 in a way

[simple portal]

Now you mention it

[simple portal]

Language man language

[agile dome]

english has that too, kind of
"oi m8 let's go sk8ing l8er"

[simple portal]

I know it when I'm searching for 39 music

[ornate veldt]

Makes sense

That definitely explains why it's pretty much everywhere in the game and it's achievements

[agile dome]

sekai even has a "39!" sticker

[simple portal]

Do you play any rhythm game

[simple portal]

Closest number thing about Neuro is the 9+10 thing

[agile dome]

but 9+10 existed as a meme before neuro

[gleaming finch]

333

[agile dome]

HM Project Mirai (1&2 rarely, DX a lot)
HM Project Sekai (i used to play it alot, until my save corrupted and my progress + seasonal characters got lost)
OSU (barely played it, but plan on playing more once i finish my diy ms surface)
Rythm Heaven Fever something (Played a bit, got annoyed at the progression system)
HM Project Diva (not yet, but i plan on buying it today)

[agile dome]

///

[simple portal]

Nice, now git gud so you can playtest my chart

[gleaming finch]

what's wrong with RH

[simple portal]

Also hi

[simple portal]

Also which mode on osu you played

I assume standard

[agile dome]

RHF on 3DS has a super annoying progression system that is super linear and has "Bosses" which require you to grind for a token, play a specific ryth game i don't like, and win perfectly to progress.

[agile dome]

...
Tutorial

[gleaming finch]

are you talking about rhythm heaven megamix?

[agile dome]

and nothing else because my mouse control sucks

[agile dome]

possibly

[simple portal]

https://tenor.com/view/do-you-have-any-idea-how-little-that-narrows-it-down-that-narrows-it-down-clear-now-its-clear-now-i-understand-now-gif-21256627

[gleaming finch]

bosses?

[agile dome]

the tutorial level is all i played

[gleaming finch]

now I've played the whole lineup and I don't know anything about bosses

[simple portal]

Pretty much none then

[agile dome]

yes

[agile dome]

this bs

[simple portal]

Literally gatekeeper

[gleaming finch]

[gleaming finch]

Literally git gud

[simple portal]

Also nice Nuro pp there

[ornate veldt]

I just calculated some stuff, and we can add around 10 songs before I need to make a package downloader due to file size

[agile dome]

i like to be able to choose which minigame i can play

[gleaming finch]

megamix isn't a good start to the rh lineup imo

that's when they lost hope for the rhythm heaven series

[agile dome]

damn

[ornate veldt]

It's mainly the video files

[simple portal]

What's the average size for video file then

[ornate veldt]

The one we have now (when encoded) is over 100MB

[agile dome]

compression babyy

[ornate veldt]

The raw video is almost 400MB

[agile dome]

here

[simple portal]

Bruh

https://tenor.com/view/neurosama-neuro-sama-gif-11499204033432984688

[agile dome]

i put the wrong video file

the export rather than me exporting

[simple portal]

Why you always do that

[agile dome]

[agile dome]

i have skill issues

[simple portal]

Soon you might just doxx yourself

[agile dome]

i mean, i almost did today

[ornate veldt]

Compression can be used, but the game itself also heavily compresses the video

[agile dome]

had my full name on display in explorer

[simple portal]

Wait what resolution the game use for video

[ornate veldt]

I don't know if the game cares, but the video we put in was 1080p and looks very grainy

[agile dome]

thankfully my accounts all use a fake name

"Alois Meyer"
so real

[simple portal]

Might consider to use lesser resolution then to saving space

[ornate veldt]

I don't really know, since reducing the base quality will probably also reduce the encoded quality

[simple portal]

But maybe still using high res stuff for working

[agile dome]

well obviously

can't really upscale stuff by encoding

[ornate veldt]

Since I think it just strips out like 3/4 of the data or something

[simple portal]

Hem hem

[ornate veldt]

I'm not even sure if the game only takes 1080p or if it takes lower resolutions, since it would take an hour just to test it and I don't want to test for no reason. It's also possible the encoding sets a specific resolution like 720p or something, which would mean we can't even change the output size if we fed it a smaller video

[agile dome]

can you check the res of an already encoded video somehow?

[ornate veldt]

I have no software (other than the game) that can play .usm encoded videos

[agile dome]

too bad

[ornate veldt]

Even VLC, which handles Source-engine's favorite file type, .bik, can't handle .usm

[agile dome]

is it possible to decode the videos, and do they retain their encoded resolution?

[ornate veldt]

I assume it is possible, but might take another hour

[agile dome]

it would really help to know though

[ornate veldt]

I'm just gonna throw it on in the native environment and see what happens. I really don't think the encoder is a trojan

Why would the guide link to it if it was?

It took like a nanosecond to decode

[agile dome]

lol

[ornate veldt]

But it's now an ivf file or something

[agile dome]

does it take a nanosecond to decode or is it still an hour

[ornate veldt]

The decode took a nanosecond, but gave back another weird file format. I have not idea about encoding if that's what you're asking

[agile dome]

yeah

i meant to write encode

[ornate veldt]

VLC can handle the .ivf file it spat out, so we have something that I can examine closer

[agile dome]

try encoding and see if it's faster

because if it is, we can test different resolutions in input vs output

[ornate veldt]

The file is still 1080p 60

[agile dome]

and if you encode + decode a 480p file? here's a small one which should be faster

under 2 megs

(in the meantime i'm off for lunch)

[ornate veldt]

It was quite quick with that one. It also stripped out like 3/4 of the file size

[simple portal]

Yeah im do some digging

In diva mod discord

[ornate veldt]

It did indeed pack and unpack as 480p 30

[simple portal]

What resolution you run the game

[ornate veldt]

Running locally 1440p

at 165Hz

[simple portal]

Are you using mod for that

[ornate veldt]

At least I assume it just uses the monitor resolution, I haven't actually checked

[ornate veldt]

I don't have mods other than ours, and it's prerequisites

[agile dome]

can you decode a video from the game?

that would tell us the default video resolution

[ornate veldt]

Sure, although if it can accept any, I think it might vary a bit

[agile dome]

then we can decode multiple

[ornate veldt]

The first one is 1080p 60*

[simple portal]

I hate my phone it load so slow

[agile dome]

i hate discord, rn i cant even upload a message in less than 10 seconds

[ornate veldt]

Another one at 1080p 60*

[agile dome]

so, is there anything other than video decoding happening right now? otherwise i'll be going outside to touch grass and buy me a 50€ steam gift card

[ornate veldt]

All the videos from the game itself seem to be 1080p 60*

[ornate veldt]

Really nothing else going on right now

[agile dome]

then i'll be omw

[ornate veldt]

Ok, once you get the game, I can help you with installing the mod if needed

We have now determined we need to use 1080p 60 if we want to match the quality of the game

[simple portal]

Alright then

Seems like that's the standard for now

[ornate veldt]

So I'll probably have to make a package downloader at some point

Good thing it isn't that complex

[ornate veldt]

Yeah, 1080p 60 has been standard for a while actually. Even higher resolutions like 1440p 60 are starting to become common

But I don't think we have Neuro stream footage in 1440p

[ornate veldt]

My remote connection has been doing weird disconnection cycles today, around 3-5 consecutive disconnects (on the remote machine side) then a few minutes or hours of break. No idea if it's an issue on my side or the ISP or something providing the connection for the remote machine, but it's really annoying

My current assumption is that it's the ISP on the remote machine causing it, since it just randomly started

[simple portal]

[ornate veldt]

Well, at least I'll get back on local soon, so at least I can control the PC if the internet goes down

[simple portal]

Yeah the stream is usually 1080p

[ornate veldt]

I don't think Twitch even supports anything higher

[simple portal]

You can always put ping tab open

[simple portal]

Nah

[ornate veldt]

That doesn't help if I can't see the PC

[simple portal]

I have seen someone stream with 8k resolution

[ornate veldt]

I have never heard of a Twitch stream above 1080p 60

[simple portal]

At least I definitely have seen someone stream with 2160 res

It's possible

But might be also experimental

Maybe some tester

[ornate veldt]

I guess it might be supported, but looking around, I can't find anything official about it

[simple portal]

Yeah it's when I randomly open streamer

Already forgor about what or who is it

But when I check the stream res I stuck with that

Shit even load before I can watch at highest res

[ornate veldt]

Well, it's not important anyway, since we'll be using Neuro's footage if we use streams, so no more than 1920x1080 at 60fps

[simple portal]

Indeed

[ornate veldt]

I do wonder how long it'll be before we need a package downloader tool

[simple portal]

Not that soon prob

[ornate veldt]

Yeah, we don't even have one song finished yet, so reaching 10 will take a while

[simple portal]

We even barely get a song ready

Exactly

[ornate veldt]

I hope I don't run out of space on my C: drive for converting videos though, since I think if I try to move the converter, defender is just gonna delete it again

[simple portal]

:reallygunpull: defender

[ornate veldt]

My PC is too fast at doing stuff. Defender instantly finds the converter as soon as it's extracted, and if I don't go and change it to allowed in 10 seconds, it's already gone

I could try to get it on my G: drive at some point, but it'll definitely be a bit annoying with defender messing around.

(the G: drive is an 8TB SATA SSD)

Oh no, the C: drive is below 500GB free again

[simple portal]

Should have more free space smh my head

[ornate veldt]

Really just another example of a badly built Microsoft product

[simple portal]

Classic

[ornate veldt]

Microsoft really just doesn't know how to make something good anymore

If like most of the applications I use weren't Windows exclusives, I'd probably install Linux or something

[agile dome]

Well, defender is better than or equal to most antivirus software you find online now so it's actually quite convenient

Because free

[ornate veldt]

That's the main thing it has going for it I guess

[agile dome]

Of course they could add some things to make it more user friendly, but it's there and I does it's job

Also, i got the money

[ornate veldt]

Welp, I guess Microsoft also has the "whatever works" mindset

[ornate veldt]

Cool

Tell me once you're ready to install the mod, so I can help if you need help with it

[simple portal]

Noice

[agile dome]

oh come on, senbonzakura isn't in the base game!?

only in the dlc

[simple portal]

Yeah it's dlc

[agile dome]

i should've gotten 20€ more and bought the vip pack smh

[simple portal]

But

[agile dome]

but i'm not going back for another hour

[simple portal]

You can just add the song yourself with mod

[agile dome]

that's true

btw, since i'm new to steam idk how exactly this stuff works, can't you just upload a mod to the steam workshop?

[ornate veldt]

It's in the basegame though, the mod uses it just fine

[agile dome]

off we go

[ornate veldt]

This is going to take a bit, it has to downolad one almost 23GB file

[agile dome]

i'd assume it's more than one file which make up the 23 gigs. also, i can read.

[ornate veldt]

It's 3 files

The exe (400MB), diva_main_region.cpk (600MB) and diva_main.cpk (22.5GB)

[ornate veldt]

Basegame pv_db

[agile dome]

i didn't know Sega was Mercedes lmao

[ornate veldt]

What do you mean?

[simple portal]

Ah that one

[agile dome]

i was joking about mercedes putting things in your car which you have to pay a subscription for in order to use them

basically

you have heated seats right?

but if you don't subscribe to their service, you can't use them

they're just turned off

[ornate veldt]

I've heard of that

[agile dome]

and here it's the same. you have the song, you just have to pay extra to play it

[ornate veldt]

You can play it just fine

The DLC songs are not even in this pv_db

[simple portal]

The dlc one might another version

[ornate veldt]

Well, the basegame one matches with the Neuro version

[simple portal]

If not again there's mod for that too

[agile dome]

oh wait that makes sense, some dlc songs are the older pjDiva versions

[simple portal]

Wait

Does that mean it's just an import then

[agile dome]

yes, the dlc songs are basically just a bunch of ports from older games

*one older game

[ornate veldt]

But who cares, we're building the mod on top of the basegame

If we need a song that's not part of the basegame, we just add it

[simple portal]

Does it conflict with dlc stuff

[ornate veldt]

By the way, I assume you'll want the development version, so we'll have to deal with more chunking of archives

[agile dome]

i'd doubt it

[ornate veldt]

It has it's own ID, so no

[simple portal]

I see that's a relief then

[ornate veldt]

We just pick unused IDs from the list and use those, no conflicts with the basegame or DLC

[agile dome]

the game is made to be modded, almost as if it was a mod itself

[ornate veldt]

It does require an extra DLL for modding though

[agile dome]

btw can you give me the links to the software we're using?

[ornate veldt]

Which parts? MikuMikuModel?

[agile dome]

all of them

[ornate veldt]

Well, I can grab the links for everything except Comfy studio

[simple portal]

I got that one

[ornate veldt]

https://github.com/blueskythlikesclouds/MikuMikuLibrary/releases MikuMikuModel and database converter

https://github.com/hiki8man/Wannacri_GUI/releases The .usm converter that takes ages

[agile dome]

maybe we could even use mmd to make dances, if that is still supported by new games, or even supported at all

[simple portal]

Is that everything

[ornate veldt]

https://github.com/blueskythlikesclouds/DivaModLoader DIVA modloader

[simple portal]

I can put them in the list later

[ornate veldt]

https://gamebanana.com/mods/432449 Song ID patch

[simple portal]

That's another list to add

[ornate veldt]

I'm not even sure what that is, but if we get Neuro into the game and figure out the model animation formats, it might be possible

[agile dome]

mikumikudance

basically sfm but for miku

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MikuMikuDance

[ornate veldt]

Ok, now I know what that is I guess

We can try to figure that out if we manage to add Neuro

It does indeed run at 1440p

[agile dome]

oof

[simple portal]

Hopefully it still compatible

[ornate veldt]

I have done testing on both 1440p and 1080p

[simple portal]

the graph looks like my channel

[ornate veldt]

Are you using a wireless connection? That would explain an unstable graph

[agile dome]

i am, because i have no ethernet port in my room 💀

[simple portal]

Prob just steam being ass

[agile dome]

nah my internet is super unstable because i have to use gateways to get it from upstairs to downstairs (2 floor flat)

[ornate veldt]

If you're using a laptop, I recommend putting the device near the router to get the best speed. (that's how I do it with laptops anyway, saved like 3 hours)

[agile dome]

i can try plugging the pc into the gateway

[ornate veldt]

That could also slightly improve speeds, depending on how good the signal to the gateway thing is

[ornate veldt]

Over half way already

I'll package the current mod dev build

[simple portal]

Is that include current song we making

[ornate veldt]

Yeah

[simple portal]

That's really scuff

[ornate veldt]

Just fits in 1 message

[simple portal]

Holy

[ornate veldt]

That's nearly 500MB

[agile dome]

how do 7z split archives work again

or do i just extract them all and put em in a folder

[simple portal]

I just realized it's in 7z

[ornate veldt]

1. Download every part. 2. select them all. 3. extract all at once

[ornate veldt]

You literally can't do that

[simple portal]

Wait that's how you do it

[ornate veldt]

That's how chunked 7z works

[simple portal]

Well if it works it works

[ornate veldt]

Yeah, that's the best way I know to bypass Discord's message file size limit

[simple portal]

Bruh my limit is only 25mb

How can you get 100mb

[ornate veldt]

Which on this server is 100MB per file and 500MB total

[ornate veldt]

This server has that for some reason

[simple portal]

Welp good I giess

[ornate veldt]

I only recently figured that out

I was chunking to 25MB before that

[simple portal]

That's even more painful to see

[agile dome]

[ornate veldt]

Yeah all the Neuro covers was like over 100 parts like that

[agile dome]

it was like 300

[ornate veldt]

That doesn't look fully downloaded yet

That was the internal file count

This is that archive

[simple portal]

My eyes

[agile dome]

now it worked

[ornate veldt]

Maybe it just wasn't fully downloaded

[agile dome]

the 005 file failed

[simple portal]

Unzip that shit

[agile dome]

i have already, as one can see from the non-zip folder

soon™️

[ornate veldt]

The folder you got out of the archive contains a file called "mods" you need to add to the game's root path. You'll also add the song ID patch into the mods folder

[ornate veldt]

Yeah, that's my instructions file

[simple portal]

I was wondering why you sometimes got extra space on your chat

[ornate veldt]

What do you mean? I don't think that has anything to do with "instructions.txt"

[simple portal]

Yeah I'm just curious

[simple portal]

Like in here you put extra spacebar between "that's" and "my" line

Or I'm just crazy

[agile dome]

https://gamebanana.com/tools/9712 do we use this?

[ornate veldt]

Oh, that's my broken spacebar

[ornate veldt]

That's not needed

[agile dome]

why not?

[simple portal]

Yeah and you do that again anyway

[ornate veldt]

It's a manager, not loader

[simple portal]

[agile dome]

i like 1-click-installs

[ornate veldt]

I'm just tired of constantly having to go back and fix it

[simple portal]

No biggie now I know why

[ornate veldt]

I'm not sure if the mod is even compatible with that at this point. The test probably isn't at least

Since the test is not on Gamebanana

[simple portal]

[agile dome]

yeah, but all these are

[ornate veldt]

I'm not even sure how it works exactly

[simple portal]

Maybe you can test it yourself and see what happen

[ornate veldt]

The modloader is on GitHub though

[ornate veldt]

I have nothing really I can test with

[agile dome]

i'll just go on without the manager then

[ornate veldt]

Yeah, you can't really use it for testing

[simple portal]

Well stick with what works I guess

[simple portal]

Do you want the comfy studio too or you want to get it yourself

[ornate veldt]

Yeah, if we want to be compatible with it, we can do that once we're feature complete, if that's even possible since I'll probably have to split the mod into a lot of parts

[agile dome]

do you have the comfy link?

[ornate veldt]

FlashFire has that

[simple portal]

It's on pd mod discord

[agile dome]

i meant flash with that

[ornate veldt]

Ok then

[simple portal]

If you want it now you can join their modding discord server

I'm still outside rn

[agile dome]

these are a lot of songs you have in the mod

[simple portal]

I dunno why they don't put the link somewhere outside discord

[ornate veldt]

Most are covers

[agile dome]

i know

[simple portal]

Try it to get the feel of the game

[agile dome]

i was just suprised that you had so many in already

[simple portal]

He doesn't know

[ornate veldt]

Most of those use another_song

[agile dome]

[ornate veldt]

Only one is an actual extra song

[simple portal]

Yeah it's just adding Neuro singing on top of existing song

Or beside them I guess

[ornate veldt]

Yeah, it adds an alternate audio track, nothing is replaced

[simple portal]

Still got 2 song that is pending

[ornate veldt]

That's what another_song does

[ornate veldt]

Yeah, those might need to be added with the other method

[agile dome]

Hell yeah

[ornate veldt]

Now just add the mod stuff

[agile dome]

i'll play a bit first, to get a feel

[ornate veldt]

You can play the modded songs

The covers

[simple portal]

Yeah do it with Neuro cover

[ornate veldt]

And if you add the mod, you can still use all the vanilla features too

Since nothing is overriden

[simple portal]

Then test my map

Can you livestream it

[agile dome]

god i can't get the timings right at all

it's so different to mirai, way more than i imagined

[simple portal]

Erm

[agile dome]

[simple portal]

That's something

Wait it's easy

[agile dome]

yes

[simple portal]

Don't try my map then

You will get seizure trying it

[agile dome]

on mirai i get S+ in hard mode, but here i just can't wrap my brain around when it actually detects a button press

[simple portal]

I can only somehow get the feeling of the game with comfy studio

Now that I think about it

Should I just make chart easier then

Or just continue with whatever next thing I come up with the chart

[agile dome]

honestly it feels like the press is only registered when releasing the button, not when pressing it

which is so confusing

[ornate veldt]

Or your input delay is high

[simple portal]

Did the game run at 60 fps

[agile dome]

improvement

[ornate veldt]

Any game takes some getting used to, unless it's identical to another you already know how to play

Any difference will mess up something with your muscle memory (or something like that)

[agile dome]

now i'm slowly getting it

[agile dome]

yup
like Y and X being flipped between 3ds and xbox one controller

[ornate veldt]

Which versions of the songs are you using by the way? The vanilla or Neuro version (for the ones that have Neuro version)?

[agile dome]

i'm currently all vanilla

[ornate veldt]

Ok, you should install the mod at some point to make sure it actully works on systems other than mine

By the way, you'll need to set MikuMikuModel to run as administrator to be able to use it, for some reason it does nothing otherwise

I recommend doing it in right-click on the exe>properties>compatibility>run as administrator

[simple portal]

there

[agile dome]

i once saw a thing that let you use the 3ds as a linux gamepad, i wonder if it works on windows too

[ornate veldt]

If it's for Linux exclusively, probably not

Windows and Linux use different OS libraries

[simple portal]

bumping it so i have easier time editing it

[ornate veldt]

Ok

We'll also need someone to get the lyrics and translate stuff

[simple portal]

yeah ill adding that after im done with sorting the link

[ornate veldt]

Ok cool

[agile dome]

just got a 69% clear

[ornate veldt]

Cool

[agile dome]

nice

sadly also pretty shit

[simple portal]

nice

just gotta get used to it

[ornate veldt]

Yeah, you'll get better over time

[agile dome]

out of curiosity, i wanna see if i can beat a 5.5 song rn

nope

10 whole %

[ornate veldt]

Ok, makes sense since you just started playing a bit ago

Let me know once you're ready to do modding related stuff, so I can give instructions if needed

[simple portal]

any other link that i need to include in the list

[ornate veldt]

The .usm converter and 7zip(most tools are in .7z archives)

https://www.7-zip.org/ This one is for 7zip

https://github.com/hiki8man/Wannacri_GUI/releases And this the .usm converter

[simple portal]

how tf i missed this

its on my list

i just blind

[ornate veldt]

I guess that happens sometimes

[agile dome]

superbox, i gotta ask ya something

you said we put videos in the custom songs

but i only see what i expect to, which is 3d environments with 3d characters

[ornate veldt]

The actual custom songs (not cover mod style additions)

[agile dome]

where does the video go

[ornate veldt]

The one video we have is for world.execute(me)

I don't know if another_song supports custom videos

I don't think it does though

[simple portal]

what else do we need for the song

[ornate veldt]

I don't think there are really many other things not covered fot world.execute(me). The video, audio and technical stuff is (pretty much) done, you're doing charting, we'll need translators and someone to get the lyrics

[agile dome]

finally above 80%

[ornate veldt]

Alright, seems like you're starting to get used to it

At least a little

[simple portal]

its like riding a bike

[agile dome]

now, why does she have so mayn swimwear outfits

[simple portal]

japan i guess

[agile dome]

wait teto is in this

how interesting
with dpad i get a lag config of 0, but with buttons i get a lag config of 0.5

[ornate veldt]

I have no idea what that setting does exactly, but I assume it accounts for delay

[agile dome]

well, that's in the name

[ornate veldt]

I think it should probably match your setup delay, if it's like other similar settings I've heard of

[agile dome]

i hte the chalenge time thing

because i can't press all 4 directions at once on a dpad

[ornate veldt]

I think it wants 2 analog sticks or other directional controllers

[agile dome]

2 analog sticks is something completely else

it wants buttons

which i have difficulties playing with

[ornate veldt]

Why are you using a dpad for buttons?

What kind of controller are you using?

[agile dome]

because i am much more fast and accurate with dpad

Xbox One S

[ornate veldt]

Ok, I think that's a pretty standard controller. You're probably gonna have to learn to use buttons to be able to properly play the game

[fringe hedge]

The most common diva layout uses directional pads + buttons

I’m using keyboard with WASD + IJKL

and then QE and UO for left and right slides

The reason there’s two sets for the same buttons is cuz it’s easier for note spamming on harder charts

You can change the image the buttons use in the customization menu, I use the directional buttons cuz that works best for my brain

[agile dome]

i have already changed the buttons, and the whole keyboard vs controller thing is explained in the tutorial

[fringe hedge]

I would also suggest if you use a Keyboard to set space to holding all four buttons

woopsies

Sorry i just like talking

i should probably learn how to use an arcade controller but ehhh

I’m not good enough rn to justify spending for it

[ornate veldt]

Are you still interested in making the art for at least some of the custom songs? We still only have placeholders

[fringe hedge]

i’m still interested, I might dig those templates up if you don’t have em and try to at least make a cover design for world.execute(me)

[ornate veldt]

I do still have those templates

Here they are

[fringe hedge]

thanks :3

I might be able to at least sketch a design rn. i’m just sitting between my class periods but i’m struggling with physical pain atm

[agile dome]

"we still only have placeholders" if i'm supposed to make something, you gotta tell me first

[agile dome]

what kinda pain?

[fringe hedge]

cramps ;__;

[agile dome]

oof

that sucks

i hope it gets better for you

[fringe hedge]

ty. i might message some ppl to ask if anyone’s got pain meds on em

[ornate veldt]

We'll also need one of these at some point, it appears next to the song's name

(that is not a template)

This is the file that contains them

[agile dome]

what even is that

[ornate veldt]

(the top-left one is the one that's loaded by world.execute(me))

[fringe hedge]

that’s … difficultly?

i’m not sure tbh

[ornate veldt]

This is what they are

[fringe hedge]

AH

[agile dome]

so those need to be made as well

[ornate veldt]

And I need to figure out how to set up the texture definers

I have modded a lot of games so far, which is really helpful with this. Portal and Portal 2 especially have very similar modding systems. Even some text stuff.

I'll probably use some of the strategies from those games to figure out the texture definers

[fringe hedge]

why must the original art for this b so complex.... Rough sketch sighs

[ornate veldt]

I think that could look pretty good. I have no idea why it is so complex though, we don't have to make it so complex if we don't want to, it's our mod

[fringe hedge]

true! i just like referencing the original song art. i might just crop it in closer

so pretty <3

[ornate veldt]

Yeah, that sounds like a good idea to reduce complexity

[fringe hedge]

the key ingredient art is also very pretty

[fringe hedge]

ill probably crop it to be like this for the jacket. it'd just be nice to have a fullbody ver for the bg

[ornate veldt]

Sounds like a pretty good plan to me

[ornate veldt]

@agile dome Did you install the mod yet, and if so, does it work?

[agile dome]

i have not

i'll check tomorrow

[ornate veldt]

Ok, let me know if you have issues with it

What are you doing by the way?

[agile dome]

archievement hunting

[ornate veldt]

Did you know I have made a mod that lets you play as Neuro in Portal?

[agile dome]

these two specifically

[simple portal]

[ornate veldt]

I have made a lot of mods

And there's a lot more coming. This one is in the all-time top 3 largest (in file size at least)

[simple portal]

ah yes my favorite activity archiving hunting

[ornate veldt]

I don't usually go out of my way to get achievements, until maybe after playing trough the whole game normally.

[simple portal]

good way to replay the game

[ornate veldt]

Yeah, I've actually got all the achievements in like 2 games or something

When I replayed them on the new PC when I got it

[agile dome]

i have already gotten through the main campaign

[ornate veldt]

That makes sense.

Those achievements are not usually attempted on the first playtrough

[agile dome]

and i like to see the archievement count go up

[ornate veldt]

Have you played Portal 2?

[agile dome]

it is impossible to get transmission recieved on the first playthrough

it requires you to have beaten the main campaign

[ornate veldt]

Oh yeah, I forgot about that

[agile dome]

no, because money

[ornate veldt]

Well, if you ever do play it, you could try out my Portal 2 mod.

[agile dome]

from what i've seen you play as neuro and the nwero emote is slapped on everything like a sticker

does your mod do any more?

[ornate veldt]

It has voice lines now

For Evil

I need to probably fix the soundscripts though

I might do that after or while working on this mod, since this mod is a heavily sound oriented one

So maybe it could help with figuring out how the soundscripts work

[simple portal]

[ornate veldt]

Want to hear what they sound like?

[simple portal]

throw some please