its good to have small goals and milestones to reach bc it gives you direction
#Artist General
left atlas
an off topic rant but im a big fan of early Paul Delaroche’s humans
literally wish i was him
crystal juniper
those drawings are semi-realistic or whatever the term is... like still slightly stylized but appears almost photorealistic
crystal juniper
so much art in history doesn't go that level of detail like they don't have heads attached properly to heads, etc... and then there is that guy XD
a lot of it seems to be not draw what is considered ugly details that much... like skin details you see close up especially in reality
turbid karma
an off topic rant but im a big fan of early Paul Delaroche’s humans
How is this off-topic 
it's a art in every sense of the word
proud birch
Thank you
crystal juniper
like I imagine someone paying their portrait to be made in such detail appreciates artist make them look better than make a direct copy XD
back then
wispy storm
Doodles love doing those
turbid karma
those drawings are semi-realistic or whatever the term is... like still slightly...
its not stylized at all tho
they're very strict and precise
crystal juniper
yeah true... I just trying to figure out right words on the fly lol... I was thinking how the artist drew realistically but might have done minor adjustments like maybe there is skin blemish or something that person doesn't like to be drawn in there
left atlas
like I imagine someone paying their portrait to be made in such detail appreciat...
did you know he paints from scratch? he uses only little refrences
both paintings were drawn without the people present
the execution of jane grey was actually done outside but he is good at drama
crystal juniper
he worked insanely hard to get to that level and according to wikipedia he didn't perceive of being enough appreciated for it
well, his paintings weren't doing so hot you would expect... starving artist
left atlas
he was dedicated, truly an inspiration
crystal juniper
his drawings are so realistic but you can tell there is indeed quite bit of artistic license even then... he gave everyone skincare treatment and yeah I know even back then people did have skincare products etc but his characters look so damn "good looking" as in people would find them attractive XD
turbid karma
did you know he paints from scratch? he uses only little refrences
Damn, when I was taught about art in school, I never paid attention to it, but now that I've decided to learn to draw, it's all just mind-blowing
left atlas
there are people in the world who draw less detailed who makes more money than him which is crazy to me. no hate but the bar is low
though even at a low bar, i seen people draw amazing things
art is truly a complex creative
wary briar
left atlas
his drawings are so realistic but you can tell there is indeed quite bit of arti...
thats romanticism for ya
left atlas
<:evilDeadge:1150735483396161586>
sorry about that, we were talking about my hero
ill review the vid
oh i know this guy
he was very popular a few months back with a video about sargent
wary briar
Oh its alright don't worry, but yeah, this guy is one of my favorite youtubers to see about drawing, just absolute cinema
left atlas
i have mild aphantasia so this will show to be a good resource for me
crystal juniper
https://youtu.be/QB9t5vYqz3k?si=PQvbS2iJQLli4MSO
I might be reading too much into it but it felt like video's author is in a camp of approaching art in a way one personally enjoys it over take our ruler and do architecture method, etc... it's one thing I agree when people make point about learning to do art in a way you like over giving up is preferrable if one is trying to push to do art in a style they like... also photorealism is a hot debate lol... some seeing it as just copying but then there are those crazy artists that use it to draw from their imagination/mind instead
wary briar
Yes! I think there is a balance between how many lines are needed, of course you can add some lines to help you with the proportions, but as you saw in that video, there were MANY more than necessary, I would fall asleep if I tried learn something from that video
crystal juniper
yeah, it's a lot to do on a physical paper
and yeah, I would agree end result then begins too feel more like someone did architecture than a human... in a weird sense
proud birch
wary briar
proud birch
crystal juniper
nicely drawn... evil looking embarrassed is something that I would expect from supposed personality... she strikes to me as so tomboy or something
proud birch
Haha i wanna thank yall for commissioning this i feel like im doing my purpose in life 
wary briar
crystal juniper
you're contributing towards cultural victory
left atlas
this clapped i will now ask you for 1 million dollars in cash preferably 
left atlas
sturdy apex
Mew
wispy storm
She kinda looks like she's... mewing
left atlas
shes mogging. natural giga
pearl ruin
Idk what to say just posting some old art. I think its funny idk.
left atlas
i made a doodle of leatherhead cowboy vedal with a he-man vest
i remember the v being in the chest, hmm
proud furnace
lens simulation is crazyyyyy, the depth of field, vignette, spherical aberration
it's so sick and photo-realistic
crystal juniper
toying with unreal engine 5?
left atlas
color test
still need creams and alternate browns, i think i can make a red good shoes
pink shoes are cute!!,
pearl ruin
Personally I prefer the pink shoes.
left atlas
i decided to play with filters, so many good colors
proud furnace
toying with unreal engine 5?
blender
cerulean mountain
anni
left atlas
ANI
crystal juniper
testing some coloring ideas https://puu.sh/KjBic/4934df7fbf.png
crystal juniper
seen some images of that anime before... well of the character anyway
proud birch
i decided to play with filters, so many good colors
Love the second one its got the right mix
left atlas
Love the second one its got the right mix
oh thats the original, good choice
proud furnace
pearl ruin
I am bored and drawing neuro makes me happy. Here are some random sketches I just made.
crystal juniper
haha... for whatever reason it made me think trolls... like in that old movie
crystal juniper
there is something to be said about having a style that really stands out
btw, speaking of which... having people online to express they find my art style cute felt so validating
tidal cosmos
undone hare
omfg
i random found yoneyama mai sensei's art book on a book store
it cost half my rent but i happily bought it
wary briar
cerulean mountain
holy luck
undone hare
the cashiers were suprised
idk if they surprised at me buying an expensive book or because they also know who yoneyama mai is or they surprised somebody finally bought the book
versed bridge
NIce
boreal stump
how much did it cost
cerulean mountain
thats in us dollars? its around the same price on amazon
undone hare
yea
cerulean mountain
you definitely are lucky
undone hare
im def gonna come back in the future maybe ill find mika sensei's book there too
boreal stump
if its on english
undone hare
its in japanese
cerulean mountain
mika pikazo?
undone hare
mika pikazo
undone hare
and kanliu artbook, those 2 are the only 3 left i wanna own
cerulean mountain
ooo kanliu i did not know
cerulean mountain
dino is so cool
i hope they make an artbook too
so i can buy it in the future 
cerulean mountain
would be funny timing ngl
undone hare
please vedal my wallet is ready
cerulean mountain
versed bridge
after paying half your rent?
undone hare
rent is 100 dollars a month, everything on top would be 2-300
i hav comfortable amount to survive until i open commission again
im working on a personal project atm so im making 0 atm
if i work hard and fast i can spare enough money to spend on eliv
undone hare
im un subcribing if evil neuro plush never release again
wary briar
brittle fern
i became interested in neuros too late to get their plushes
so i'm begging for a rerun too
wary briar
Dont worry, corpa tutel is gonna do that im sure
undone hare
i was just broke when theyre out
tall trench
Broke gang rise up
crystal juniper
i became interested in neuros too late to get their plushes
you probably get better version than the previous run ^^
would be funny if they were slight recolors and then sold as "new" XD
crystal juniper
that said golden looking versions would be quite cool
okay... time to continue get this evil art done as I plan to make it a wallpaper
wary briar
crystal juniper
thinking about background as it's going to be 4K wallpaper
okay I got an idea but it's going to be a learning experience I suppose
viscid gust
I forgot to share with you guys that sticker two for the server is done.
Leota is on vacation. When she gets back, she will be making sticker three and four.
pastel knot
viscid gust
Either one stick or three or four is introduced I will start replacing them on the actual server, and then we will start talking about the next five
All of them are going to be evil stickers
And of course, I’m going to need more artists since I want to showcase more of the artist community
Once we get past the evil stickers every five we add past that point will be split up between 2 Neuro, 2 evil, 1 vedal
wary briar
tiny hinge
I believe there are a few ideas that never got drafted. If those are good ideas for evil.
brittle girder
might complete the body as well tomorrow if I feel like it
i just notice the cat ears are wrong
I should have shaded the back side 
or give it texture or what ever you would call it
crystal juniper
I'm cooking something really cool with the background
my art is so pretentiously artsy lol ^^
viscid gust
I have been working on a side project while I am getting back into the flow of drawing
making a hub city for my tabletop game I am planning
pearl ruin
So I made some art but I don't know which one would be better to finish. Which do you guys like the most?
viscid gust
first one
but uh
you gave her 6 fingers
pearl ruin
yeah i was planning on fixing it.
brittle girder
finish all of them for practice
crystal juniper
it's kind of interesting how I figured out CRT like style to do background on the fly
yeah that hand is quite funny
wispy storm
first one
but uh
you gave her 6 fingers
it's a feature 
tiny hinge
Honestly I've done the same or forgotten to add things like eyebrows. Happens sometimes
steady abyss
I have been working on a side project while I am getting back into the flow of d...
sick
hope you're doing better heir
crystal juniper
she's not really pointing to direction of world "FILTERED" but it almost looks like it
also I saved it as JPG with quality settings that make it indistinguishable from PNG and is like 66% smaller
steady abyss
she's not really pointing to direction of world "FILTERED" but it almost looks l...
it looks like shes flipping it off
steady abyss
true
crystal juniper
like a true boss lol
I saw AI generated image posted here earlier so I got inspired by it... so I wanted to do a similar pose and draw it
steady abyss
ive just kinda been on creative burnout
i have no idea what to draw or make
i usually make 3d models and texture them but i haven't made one in like a month
crystal juniper
it's not that uncommon on creative fields... sometimes it's just about taking a break
even if that so called break is over a month
viscid gust
hope you're doing better heir
i think in near 100% again
pastel knot
i once nearly went 5 months without drawing
steady abyss
i think in near 100% again
thats good
steady abyss
it's not that uncommon on creative fields... sometimes it's just about taking a ...
Oh yeah 100%, I think its mainly stress induced. Took a year off school and just applied for college 4 hours from home and kinda just worried about moving to a bigger city, Ive grown up in and around towns of less than 10k residents my entire life.
crystal juniper
Oh yeah 100%, I think its mainly stress induced. Took a year off school and just...
yeah that's a big change of environment...
steady abyss
yeah that's a big change of environment...
Mhm, I think the main things are the traffic and crime, around where I live they are like nonexistent
I Listen to true crime/true horror podcasts so thats definitely not helping
crystal juniper
yeah that stuff is oddly entertaining to follow but I can understand how it can also stoke fears
crystal juniper
the shining reference? nice
left atlas
oh no thats just a place holder
my plan was to do the head, clothes then leg
it seems i have been led no choice. time to do tunnel vision coloring
pearl ruin
I fixed some parts of the images and added more details. I think I could add more to these but I am not sure what else to add.
left atlas
crystal juniper
I was referring to yor "makes your angry" thing XD there is this "all work and no play..." thing
left atlas
oh snap i need to watch it
if neuro was to do a round house kick. would it be exhaust or propelling flair legs
crystal juniper
the right one seems quite comical XD
pastel knot
talking about references in another forum post gave me an idea
could we create like a neuro pureref board?
its a pretty handy app
works like this
pale glade
Need
pastel knot
just a big board you can add images to
and to add images you can literally just drag them on from anywhere
like a browser
left atlas
keep this on me at all times
probably more in the wiki
actually lets do, just make it and tell a mod if they can pin it later
pastel knot
i already dragged everything thats pinned here onto it
is there any more good references?
left atlas
we may need one of each side and back
i never seen content so we may need to dig for anny’s sketches or find unofficial art to reference
maybe anime girls with similar hair
oooo. neuro doesnt have human ears...this may be hard
holy i firgured it out
someone made one before https://x.com/FishyWhite/status/1852070039735931098
Twitter
i went looking for that
tho there is another thing im looking for
pastel knot
https://www.pureref.com/download.php
To get it for free you gotta set the custom amount to $0, then you just need to open the attached .pur file in it for the Neuro board.
if you wanna add your own images you can just drag them in from discord or your browser. I also suggest doing this every time you add images: right click > images > normalize > width, and then: right click > images > arrange > optimal. This sorts the images for you neatly and is just easier to look at imo.
jesus these files get big quickly
my main board is half a gigabyte 
though it is full of high res official hoyo art
pale glade
Oh that’s a computer thing, I mainly work on my iPad lol
left atlas
imma transfer the stuff to a mobile friendly
worn briar
so i have a CSP license, but I bought it back when v2 was out
can I use that with the shiny v3 version or nah?
pastel knot
wdym
left atlas
wdym
the system supports only pc access
one thing we can do is find a website or an app that everyone can use
my plan was to leave this here for pc users while making one for mobile
pastel knot
i was asking cheekisin 
left atlas
alright
worn briar
well the refboard is pretty interesting too
but yeah, I have the old 30-digit serial thing, and not the new 12-13 digit licenses
does that I'm i can only use v2/v1
pastel knot
if you bought it back when only v2 was out its likely you can only use v2
they offer upgrades though
its what i did
pastel knot
except i didint because i bought version 3 in full instead of upgrading so i paid extra
left atlas
Oh that’s a computer thing, I mainly work on my iPad lol
oh would you prefer an app to view or browser to download the images and use them?
i think an open group pinterest would do
pale glade
Oh, Pinterest?? Uhh
I was thinking something like a Google drive folder
left atlas
oh thats even easier, better for png resolution
pastel knot
is it worth?
sorta depends
pale glade
Yes!! Cus Pinterest I’ve never used it and I prefer not to support it due to generative ai scraping being allowed
pastel knot
you can see if these features look like they'd be useful to you https://www.clipstudio.net/en/news/202311/22_01/
i use 3d models fairly often so i bought it
but the other upgrades are pretty niche/advanced so most could prolly go without it
worn briar
hmm
yeah i'll stick to v2 for now
i'm actually switching between CSP and adobe sketchbook pro
pastel knot
i dont think ive tried any of the features besides the 3d stuff and improved mesh transformation
i tried the hand tracker once and it was silly
its 100% accurate!
pale glade
So it turns out I forgot how to arm
crystal juniper
hands are kind of interesting once you focus to them like... if you try to spread your fingers to sides or what you would call it, they try to do it at the same rate
worn briar
oh damn it
i thought i had v2, but i actually bought the v1 license and I just did the workaround to get it to work with v2
worn briar
who needs ai when you have bad hand tracking
left atlas
Yes!! Cus Pinterest I’ve never used it and I prefer not to support it due to gen...
oh something gon wrong i think
one sec
imma add things such as height and ways to do hair
then ill probably give it to someone else to manage
fan stuff like human vedal will be up for interpretation
midnight hazel
Ive still been drawing but haven’t checked in for a while since I was recovering from health. Anyway i sketch the cerber. Im also intending, if there is a subathon, to potentially do a sketch of neuro every day of the subathon.
versed bridge
Nice
left atlas
i did the messurements an took in anny's account the neuro is the same height. vedal is almost exactly 0.449 ft
thats this pan sideways
4 eggs tall
tidal cosmos
brittle girder
I feel like I am too stupid to draw perspective without guidelines
I guess I have to keep practicing until I feel less stupid 
left atlas
THE REFERENCE BOARD ITS SO COOL
robust sleet
for some reason i cant see my post in the neuro sama reddit and it turns out that It got removed without me knowing when i checked it using incognito. Is this normal because im pretty upset about it
like i can still see it in my reddit account but on another account its showing that it has been deleted
left atlas
for some reason i cant see my post in the neuro sama reddit and it turns out tha...
what was the post?
left atlas
no that is really strange
robust sleet
yeah
left atlas
crazy bc its not heavily moderated, i think you got botted
robust sleet
well thats a shame
left atlas
i suggest you repost and if it happens again talk to a mod
make sure you follow rules like use flairs and all that
robust sleet
alright then, Thank you
left atlas
have a good one!
worn briar
I feel like I am too stupid to draw perspective without guidelines <:neuroAware:...
well all you really need is a vanishing point, station point, viewing point, a horizon line, ground line, and picture plane
let me look up my technical drafting book from college
brittle girder
finished the body
lime pike
Hallo
wary briar
Hallu
Damn no neuro stream for a while after this next dev
Sad
I guess is back to just practice
versed bridge
Let's watch forsen
wary briar
weak wave
Man art hard 
versed bridge
That's why I rarely do them :LULE:
brittle girder
life is hard
crimson comet
does anyone have any recommendations on what markers to be used on black plastic that won't be easily smudged
brittle girder
White Sharpie? But I don't know for sure
brittle girder
Yeah but I don't know well they doing on plastic, I just remember that they aren't that easy to smudge in general but also been years since I used something like that
probably at least a decade
versed bridge
Damn, that's pretty expensive
Also, maybe try oil marker
Idk what those called, but I remember their ink being just oil paint
Similar to oil paint anyways
wispy storm
<https://www.pureref.com/download.php>
To get it for free you gotta set the cust...
thank you so much for this!
proud birch
Idbsjq
crimson comet
Similar to oil paint anyways
so, paint markers
crimson comet
ive used those a lot before but it just wont stick well + takes a while for it to dry
versed bridge
Idk, I remember my dad using it on plastic surface a lot
Because he work maintenance :LULE:
lime pike
Something something neuron activation
versed bridge
Nice
lime pike
Thanks
versed bridge
A more feminine body
left atlas
baggy clothes kinda prevents that
hmm ill see what i can do
smile really changes everything
proud birch
neuro looks too boyish idk what to do
Increase hip size and decrease shoulder width
With umm a liquify tool?
Should do the trick 
Wait ngl
Were kinda drawing the same thing
left atlas
tbh idk how to use that tool one bit. last time i tried the head flew away
proud birch
Oh
wary briar
left atlas
oh that’s unintentional i just wanted to see how i could do with heavy clothes
so i did kr w
proud birch
Hmm okay honestly
The hip size is alright its mostly the shoulder
I see that youre accustomed to male body seeing how the shoulder aligns with the hip
versed bridge
Oh, I see
left atlas
this is the first time i drew anything maleish this year. im kinda embarrassed i got this part wrong
though i did have an issue with shoulders
versed bridge
Give Neuro the hourglass proportion
worn briar
7-8 heads tall, broad shoulders
left atlas
how it look now
i was proud of that shirt
oh neck
they strangly look the same size now
proud birch
Oh nice it looks more feminine now
versed bridge
Look the same to me
worn briar
is that doki and dooby
crystal juniper
i did the messurements an took in anny's account the neuro is the same height. v...
so anny's model has some thicker body parts than neuro-sama and evil neuro but the height is about the same eh... makes sense being the same artist, right (anny)
worn briar
I suppose we should normalize their heights based on head-body ratio
it would make neuro smaller
left atlas
i actually measured buy neuro’s shoes
crystal juniper
yeah such canon information can be handy... that said when I drew an image with five vtubers for example I just made their relative heights how I felt XD
left atlas
infact this is a bit outdated
neuro wears 1 cm heel loafers meaning the whole heel is 2 cm then so on
i also used a place holder height generator to measure anny correctly
with her usual shoes, anny would still be taller
i aint wanna do that tho
crystal juniper
it can get quite "neurotic" heh if one gets too much into it... like do one want to measure by including ears as part of the height, etc... yeah, a lot of "sane" artists tend to just draw how they feel it should roughly look like to them
left atlas
body parts are a bit controversial to measure due to many humans having varied sizes, its better to measure known clothing and measure with other people who have already been measured
but yeah drawing how one feels is more organic
this is just here to be here, for animation projects or what not
oh yeah look at the google drive, its for everyone! https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1j8kbZBIwZ5H4d8ucNfxReRRJPtdONCq7?usp=share_link
crystal juniper
reminds me of video games... people behind game want a scene of showing characters to fist pump and... other character being taller it doesn't make much sense of how it looks like and off camera model is actually partly inside the ground to make it work XD
tutel on beach... the best reference image lol
proud furnace
left atlas
tutel on beach... the best reference image lol
tbh i dont think any animators take it seriously, its more of a “dont make this character taller” rule. id love to see people measuring a character’s shoes to a ball for 1 scene
toriyama thought this was so funny he made krillin gradually shorter to as joke
crystal juniper
hehe yeah... I have gotten that kind of feel from anime/mange, etc that artists indeed generally tend to use canon heights just as kind of relative things when characters appear to same scene together yeah
though what I have been implying that there are absolutely people that are on spectrum while also being artists who get really obsessed of making heights just right, which can be quite detrimental for actually getting drawings done lol
left atlas
though what I have been implying that there are absolutely people that are on sp...
thats a good perspective to take account of. i wonder if i should add more
im reframing clothing and shoes bc that would go to unofficial territory but should we have something for everyone?
proud furnace
Math is art guys. It's time to cook some aspherical lenses
I'll invade artist general with math contents
crystal juniper
im reframing clothing and shoes bc that would go to unofficial territory but sho...
I feel like the comparison of vtubers can spiral out of control by trying to measure tons of them against each other in a long long line XD
crystal juniper
neuro is superior to all, president of the moon
neuro-sama is at least three meters tall... she just doesn't want to intimidate people with her superior height
crystal juniper
Math is art guys. It's time to cook some aspherical lenses
music is also math... or rather can be presented as math
crystal juniper
still mentally studying what the heck I drew... like back hair is supposed to give impression of some motion
crystal juniper
hmm... I'm getting kind of inspired to do more "artsy" art stuff... I want to toy with surreal background designs and stuff more
worn briar
Math is art guys. It's time to cook some aspherical lenses
oh shit is that why they're called aspherical lenses
crystal juniper
it's such a good video... conveying these things aren't every artist's forte at youtube (in easy to understand way)... so good
personally I have been really into stylized folding with the art lately
wary briar
At least i get to draw vedal with some nice clothes to practice
I didn't really used the Lasso tool, i've been using more to do skin and its awesome to do hard edge, have to do that in the clothes too
crystal juniper
yeah lasso trick seems nice... I knew it was a thing some artists really like to do
wispy storm
https://youtu.be/WLtgtlNi4rY?si=afDQ2iZCAAmumKmt
Tbh I haven't watched any art tutorials I only used references, and figured out everything else
proud birch
robust sleet
My reddit post got deleted again
wary briar
There's a bot in Reddit? Its a Mod Bot?
robust sleet
i dont really know but maybe
wary briar
Gonna have to talk with the mods
robust sleet
well this is going to be a first for me then
Im probably mistaking a bot with a spam filter here 
wary briar
crystal juniper
is your reddit account fresh and/or not much used?
because I think those could be big factors autoamtic system finds suspicious depending of settings lol
pale glade
Hey guys I have a question
I needed neuro arms so I lined up these two models but had trouble doing it, I came to the conclusion that the legs are shorter on the clown costume model. Why?
robust sleet
is your reddit account fresh and/or not much used?
Nah, I used to post often there
cerulean mountain
I needed neuro arms so I lined up these two models but had trouble doing it, I c...
might be because its using the newer model that is still in works as a reference?
i cannot say for sure
check pins to see it
pale glade
Where’s the pins?
I looked in all the channels some don’t have pins and others don’t have it
turbid karma
in this forum
robust sleet
This forum have all the Neuro references in the pinned messages
robust sleet
robust sleet
yw👍
pale glade
Yep the clown costume model for sure is smaller
turbid karma
There’s no pinned messages section in this channel
Everything is written in Russian, but it's clear where to click
turbid karma
because this is a forum, not a channel, yet
robust sleet
I just realised that the last art redraw we did was during september
pale glade
I just noticed that “ref” on the right is ai generated
turbid karma
its not lmao
robust sleet
its not, thats the concept model for Neuro before the official one
pale glade
If it’s not ai generated then who drew it? Cus it has the classic ai generated discrepancies and errors
turbid karma
Oh, wait, now I see why you have such a conclusion
pale glade
Yeah,,
turbid karma
I just never really paid attention to this unfinished version
robust sleet
are you talking about the fingers?
pale glade
No I didnt noticed the fingers I’m looking at it as a whole and specifically the badges on the cardigan
robust sleet
i still dont see it, sorry
pale glade
Okay Gimmie a moment
turbid karma
you can ask Bread where he got that stuff, but it's been six months
this one in the right is original
pastel knot
i think it might actually be AI upscaled instead of generated
turbid karma
yeah
pale glade
Common ai generated mistakes are circled here
pale glade
i think it might actually be AI upscaled instead of generated
Maybe?? Idk
cerulean mountain
no, anny just uses that kind of brush idk what it is called
for her rough works
the one that is lined on the outside?
pastel knot
yeah im talking about that
robust sleet
oh i see, i was actually looking at this one and it didnt have those mistakes
pastel knot
and i think its just upscaled
turbid karma
It's funny that someone only noticed it after 6 months, so no one's been using it
pale glade
That makes sense but the badges still look a little off to me
Oh well, it’s solved for the most part
pastel knot
yeah they would look off if its been ran through an upscaler
cerulean mountain
Common ai generated mistakes are circled here
how do you know it is ai upscaled? i don't understand even after seeing this
turbid karma
zoom in
pale glade
Well I was claiming it was ai generated, not ai upscaled
And I meant that in the original that the badges look off to me still, not in the upscaled version
turbid karma
Common ai generated mistakes are circled here
this one is not original
pale glade
this one is not original
Yes that one is the upscaled version
cerulean mountain
this is the original version?
pale glade
Yes
cerulean mountain
ooh understood
pale glade
Still it’s interesting to see that upscaling via ai can do that to human made art, it definitely can falsely flag human made art as ai generated which is a big problem in the art community
turbid karma
And I meant that in the original that the badges look off to me still, not in th...
idk, badges looks fine to me, they just rough like everything else here
robust sleet
its been an hour now and im still waiting for a moderators response for my reddit issue
turbid karma
they singing in neurocord karaoke rn 
robust sleet
Ooh so thats why
tidal cosmos
I just noticed that “ref” on the right is ai generated
Tf you mean, it's literally Anny's sketch
pale glade
We solved this already
robust sleet
lmao weve talked about this already
pale glade
Apologies
wispy storm
Man why can't I just draw normally without my brain immediately going blank
tidal cosmos
Dw about it
robust sleet
to summarise, apparently that the concept model for Neuro was ai upscaled
of course the original is still fine
tidal cosmos
im learning shading hair
tidal cosmos
of course the original is still fine
I see, then I'm kalm
My apologies aswell, first thing that came to mind when I saw "that's ai generated" was is this person baiting me?
#neurotic-neurons blood flows in my veins
robust sleet
Crazy how I now hate an old art that I used to love. The mistakes are too noticable now
turbid karma
@viscid gust Sorry for the ping, just haven't seen you around here much lately. Can you unpin this message? It's just old references, there are the same + current ones already pinned. And we also noticed that it was ai upscaled, so the misunderstanding we discussed above may come up again
left atlas
<@168194005484568577> Sorry for the ping, just haven't seen you around here much...
oh do you have the original image? i can add that to the google drive
turbid karma
As I said, it's pinned
left atlas
sorry about that
turbid karma
It's okay
crystal juniper
Crazy how I now hate an old art that I used to love. The mistakes are too notica...
I find them both cool like... wouldn't at glance tell which one is "strictly better" ^^
left atlas
oh i thought this was a higher resolution where pen strokes could be seen
robust sleet
as they say, an artist's greatest critic is themselves
crystal juniper
as they say, an artist's greatest critic is themselves
yeah... they feel a bit different styles which indicates your style has changed... which is fine of course... the eyes on the right drawing is definitely an improvement... I do like more detailed hair on the left more but that's just personal preference, both ways to do hair is just fine
pale glade
I never thought doing this would be so tedious but at least now I’m ready to start designing an outfit
crystal juniper
you drew a new base model for her?
pale glade
No I just did this
I wanted to stay true to the original model while also trying to guess where the proportions would be based on the models
I used the witch outfit for the shoulders but I feel like it wasn’t as accurate. Still, I didn’t stray from it.
steady abyss
I never thought doing this would be so tedious but at least now I’m ready to sta...
karen cut neuro
pale glade
LOL
steady abyss
she totally would be a Karen
crystal juniper
that's quite a project to reverse engineer the base model... or whatever term one could use for it
left atlas
I never thought doing this would be so tedious but at least now I’m ready to sta...
can i take a transparent version of this?
i feel like a creep lurking for refs
pale glade
I can do it, Gimmie a couple seconds
left atlas
thank you thank you
pale glade
Okay hopefully this actually uploads as transparent
Yay it worked ^_^
I was too lazy to color the hands skin color 
left atlas
oh thanks, how would you like to be credited in the drive?
pale glade
Zeni Riri
left atlas
kk
left atlas
no prob i gotchu 
viscid gust
why neuro nakey
viscid gust
<@168194005484568577> Sorry for the ping, just haven't seen you around here much...
done
proud furnace
oh shit is that why they're called aspherical lenses
aspherical simply means that the surface of the lens isn't a part of a sphere 
left atlas
why neuro nakey
its for the google drive, take a look! its awesome: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1j8kbZBIwZ5H4d8ucNfxReRRJPtdONCq7?usp=drive_link
left atlas
i'll add them in
tidal cosmos
what do you guys think is better? with lineart, or without lineart (but with a small highlight lineart for differenciating depht) my rnglish not englishing
left atlas
line art is good but the lineless one kinda reminds me of that one hololive animator
it got a soft cloudy vibe to it
tidal cosmos
although it's really a matter of taste
its a pain but why not both 
steady abyss
what do you guys think is better? with lineart, or without lineart (but with a s...
i think you should do colored lineart
viscid gust
viscid gust
left atlas
its a pain but why not both <:KEKWSad:837191657958539274>
yeah colored line art would look cool
crystal juniper
I also prefer lineart of those two examples... although lineartless would also look good with some polishing of edges, etc
wary briar
you trying to tell me something youtube?
steady abyss
<:evilDeadge:1150735483396161586> you trying to tell me something youtube?
feels so real
was talking with my friends while he was trying to rig a vtuber model and was just drawing randomly and it was great
sturdy apex
So many Neuro references
crystal juniper
definitely showing off my art has been great motivator over the years even back when it was a little bit more than fancy flat looking figures
tidal cosmos
yup its funny
turbid karma
definitely showing off my art has been great motivator over the years even back ...
yeah, relatable, and for me it was also very alarmingly tbh
cerulean mountain
pikat is a funny artist
their progress from what i saw on twitter was fun to follow along
very admirable
wary briar
I like pikat 🙂
cerulean mountain
me too
crystal juniper
yeah, relatable, and for me it was also very alarmingly tbh
I would have likely lost interest if I had kept my art stuff entirely private as it's definitely a game of patience too to get over early art hurdles... nowadays I'm enough good to find it enjoyable but it was rough at start lol
anyway the next art piece I start the challenge is to just fill canvas with more details than I usually do... let's see how it goes lol
pale glade
It’s definitely a benefit to learn how to develop your style with others, my husband had to ask me for advice on female anatomy despite him already knowing more about anatomy than I do.
He’s an amazing artist and it’s very humbling for him to ask me for advice 
left atlas
is an artist always learning or does it turn to studying once youre skilled enough?
tall trench
There's always something to learn.
Be it anatomy, perspective, color theory, folds, characters other than humans, backgrounds, composition...
It's a never ending journey I'm afraid.
turbid karma
Yeah, grind never ends
robust sleet
Finally got my reddit post to reappear again thanks to a moderator manually approving it. But the post can only be seen in new and nowhere in hot. Ah well, at least I got it to reappear back again (nvm, it finally appeared on the hot section)
Man I hate reddit sometimes
turbid karma
Finally got my reddit post to reappear again thanks to a moderator manually appr...
So it was like auto moderation bot with false alarm or smth?
robust sleet
Yeah, reddit did its weird thing again
And the fact that this happened to me twice in a row
tidal cosmos
Can I see it again?
keen grail
Can I see it again?
tidal cosmos
are my colors terrible
Imo not really, looks better than mine, I don't know color theory that much either, I like the pasty feeling of it
brittle fern
i think i'd die to protect this smile
realest statement of 2024. i'd do it too
looks nice btw
brittle fern
current status
adorable
versed bridge
nice
proud birch
versed bridge
Nice
heady bolt
very nice!!
tidal cosmos
Ok I’m finally finished time to ded
She's cute, shit I forgor her name, kanji of maple leaves 
left atlas
what should i color the sweater?
i made it purple for a fusion type deal but now im reconsidering
turbid karma
what should i color the sweater?
maybe something like that
proud birch
i was thinking of this but looks copyrighted
Ohh damn this look fire
left atlas
i like it bc the dark purple enhances the red
if you look at the center, its like sonic heroes
idk how to make the cream work
tidal cosmos
oh im liking this sweater idea
crimson comet
damn what the fuck
wary briar
crimson comet
wary briar
Man doing nice hands its a nightmare
versed bridge
Very nice tho
wary briar
Im gonna try and do this one very good
I like how Kuro and Soren draw and color the hair and eyes, they look very nice
tall trench
They look like Persona characters.
wary briar
Makes it look very soft
tall trench
Which is a compliment.
versed bridge
Love those colouring style
tall trench
Make a Bsky.
sturdy apex
I do have already
wary briar
What, didn't know that existed
novel anvil
crystal juniper
I have risen from the bed... drawing at night screwed up my attempt to fix sleep schedule XD I do get enough hours of sleep but... it's very fluid as of when
worn briar
soren art is fucking amazing
proud furnace
Math is art guys. It's time to cook some aspherical lenses
And I'm suffering from endless pain of math
wary briar
crystal juniper
soren art is fucking amazing
I feel like everyone's art here is amazing, but then again my idea of amazing art isn't industry standard lol... it's bunch of apples and oranges even as everyone has their own distinct style
worn briar
And I'm suffering from endless pain of math
you're making custom lens for a vr headset?
wary briar
sturdy apex
Holy shit is it me or is tutel looking very different today damn.
versed bridge
NIce
pale glade
When the fresh FUCK did this exist?
This was announced earlier this year so I was wondering when it was happening, I was assuming people were already paying to use Twitter
crystal juniper
it has been fascinating to follow fanart of vedal... like how new ideas pop up as in terms of design
there are so many variations lol
turbid karma
hairstyle is really nice
crystal juniper
gotta start with christmas art too or I just end up doing it last minute
wary briar
Cute neur!
pale glade
Thankyuu
pale glade
gotta start with christmas art too or I just end up doing it last minute
It’s never too late to >:3
wary briar
crystal juniper
It’s never too late to >:3
four hours to cook until christmas day challenge... I have no idea how many christmas related drawings I want to do this year... with halloween art I just drew more than one due I felt like it
crystal juniper
my deer friend nokotan has been one of those things that somehow also inspired to improve my art skills
I really love that anime lol
I really liked the visual style of it so I mentally ended up paying great attention to it lol
wary briar
Dude, I downloaded this color palette and it's a lifesaver, I don't need to spend 1 hour looking for a good color anymore
glacial estuary
Waiting for heir to reply
wary briar
cerulean mountain
wonky car #11
versed bridge
Cute
sturdy apex
Omg a car.
viscid gust
Dude, I downloaded this color palette and it's a lifesaver, I don't need to spen...
Bro has the entire Pantone library
brittle girder
no idea what i drew but i drew something
wary briar
yay!
crystal juniper
I pick my colors mostly by intuition/feeling XD but I have things like skin base color I like to use as saved
tall trench
You have a good sense of style.
tall trench
Dude, I downloaded this color palette and it's a lifesaver, I don't need to spen...
Share it 😠
wary briar
Share it 😠
elder trench
Ip grabber?
cerulean mountain
i finished anny art
anyone else find long pieces tiring to do after some point?
wary briar
<:HMMMM:909699488929701919> Ip grabber?
No... xdx
wary briar
anyone else find long pieces tiring to do after some point?
Kinda
boreal stump
someday ill pass the sketch stage and actually do a done art
so much to learn still
white bison
anyone else find long pieces tiring to do after some point?
Yes very 
crystal juniper
hmm... I think my punk catgirl evil drawing fill turn festive themed... considering it
crystal juniper
proud furnace
you're making custom lens for a vr headset?
no, I'm making the lens cuz I want to simulate real-life lens flare
wary briar
turbid karma
wary briar
Very light
crystal juniper
time to add hair detail...
crystal juniper
crystal juniper
tall trench
Kinda in the mood to draw Pedal being pulled around by Toma and Anny
Oh wait someone already drew it nvm
tall trench
https://puu.sh/KjMvX/7119911cff.png
Never asked but in the face, is it the philtrum or a piercing?
crystal juniper
Never asked but in the face, is it the philtrum or a piercing?
idea is that they are two different sized nose rings
pale glade
You have a good sense of style.
Thank you!! I try.
left atlas
experimenting colors
super bright, hurts the eyes almost. maybe just me
purpble oveberlay maybe?
hold up hows this
weak wave
Both look fine to me, I think it’s just a matter of preference
You could honestly combine the two and desaturate the further areas to give it more depth
tall trench
hold up hows this
It looks like they're inside a fridge. Lol
Being serious though, it really depends on what you're going for in terms of ambience. There's no right or wrong answer.
left atlas
they are getting temperature regulation
crystal juniper
they look kind of squished ^^
shading of course helps with that but even then they feel kind of thin imagining them shaded
that said I like the designs
tidal cosmos
HUH?
Bruh almost a dollar per month, what kind of shit is this
Happy I got two accounts 
(the other one was for my small guild/group account)
left atlas
shading of course helps with that but even then they feel kind of thin imagining...
they are quite thin girls
tidal cosmos
anyone else find long pieces tiring to do after some point?
Yes
left atlas
i think neuro’s head is bigger than her diaphragm
left atlas
doesnt he feed them rats and tables
crystal juniper
they are quite thin girls
it's just that they are so thin in that perspective it reminds me of cardboard cutouts.. like depth
left atlas
i see what you mean
tbh in perfecting anime type art style its less 3d , though i do have an issue with clothing
sturdy apex
doesnt he feed them rats and tables
They hunt for themselves.
crystal juniper
hehe yeah
crimson comet
damn what the fuck
buh
crimson comet
ermmm bare minimum
👍
left atlas
curmassss!!!! its curmassss
upper ginkgo
It's basically the last month of the year and one of the resolutions of this year was to get back into drawing
I've felt like just posting (public or private) is just a nice thing to remind yourself that you have improved bcs I can't look at old stuff for more than a few seconds without cringing
Anyways everyone is making progress and you might not see it bcs you are currently in the moment of it
Keep up the good work everyone
woeful quail
thanks raily <3 keep up the good work yourself
undone hare
i lied, idrew neuros today
warm pewter
based
versed bridge
Look like the Neurons is seeping back
proud furnace
this is the most matching figure I've ever seen
I had never seen a patent figure this match in my life
tidal cosmos
undone hare
i lied, idrew neuros today
not aixfamily btw dont ask
hidden void
so cute!! the hair is adorable
proud birch
Gyat
versed bridge
What
crystal juniper
curmassss!!!! its curmassss
I guess you're really excited for punkmass... I mean chirstmas
glossy blaze
crystal juniper
wary briar
left atlas
finished <:neuroHypers:1135051812722982922> https://discord.com/channels/5747205...
actual peak
left atlas
I guess you're really excited for punkmass... I mean chirstmas
punkcurisumacsonmas
versed bridge
Very nice
wary briar
Looks better
left atlas
that arm looks insane with all the colors
tall trench
The palette is very interesting.
crystal juniper
hehe it almost looks like the arm is ovearheating XD
crystal juniper
punkcurisumacsonmas
such a monster word...
left atlas
i was looking for stuff to add to the drive and saw this
why does her smile look kinder than neuros
left atlas
a photo to keep in my wallet
wary briar
When she gets her new model she's gonna be too powerful, just you see
left atlas
shes powerful already
crystal juniper
haha... imagine of someone checking your wallet and such picture being there... they would have a brief confusion XD
left atlas
id have it in my id pocket. i now identify as evil neuro. vedal is my father and he smells like eggs
tho ther is a hidden coparment for stuff behind my cards, itd prob be there
crystal juniper
XD
I have that christmas themed evil wallpaper thing I drew recently as my desktop background
left atlas
I have that christmas themed evil wallpaper thing I drew recently as my desktop ...
i have the vote sketch i did but its a bit small
new project
no idea what imma do
crystal juniper
i have the vote sketch i did but its a bit small
well, it works... but yeah bunch of black bars...
I have "Fences" program installed that allow to add containers on desktop so unless I hover over certain parts of the screen the icons and files are hidden... it's cool ^^
crystal juniper
there are bunch of options... even in my outdated version https://puu.sh/KjOSR/2d5f467ff3.png
I have stardock fences 3 and currently they're at stardoc fences 5... they just make people pay for each major release separately
left atlas
robbery
couldnt they just leave ads and get more money per visit?
infinite money trick
crystal juniper
seems they nowadays have subscription service too in a case someone doesn't want to pay for a permament license
left atlas
actually crazy
tall trench
Dunno about u guys but I love when a shot is close to the face and the artists draw the teeth more anatomically correct instead of one white block
cerulean mountain
me too
left atlas
you think they did the spongebob thing where they drew the skull than a face?
boreal stump
if its as close as this i suppose not drawing detailed teeth just looks weird
steady abyss
Dunno about u guys but I love when a shot is close to the face and the artists d...
close face shots where they do eyes/teeth like that are sick
wary briar
left atlas
Having unshakeable confidence in your art is hard
most become teachers for that
also it kinda depends on the end goal, from my perspective most of us are at a steady level. but like what if someone wants to do promo art and they not good at colors?
thats where the problem starts
if you remove yourself from that, its easy to be confident
pastel knot
lineart is done
boreal stump
genshin inspired isnt it
pastel knot
i wouldnt say genshin inspired exactly
but my pureref is full of official genshin art
so genshin influenced maybe?
good eye
pastel knot
official hoyo stuff has had a big influence on me for sure
they post their bday arts on twitter at a pretty high res
so its fantastic professional work to reference
pretty much whenever something stumps me i turn to this and find something similar to reference
the gojos at the bottom are emotional support
boreal stump
can relate id like to do in similar style
steady abyss
lineart is done <:neuroHypers:1135051812722982922>
neuro on it reminds me of the red haired chick from bocchi the rock
pastel knot
neuro on it reminds me of the red haired chick from bocchi the rock
i had the exact same thought yesterday
cerulean mountain
pretty much whenever something stumps me i turn to this and find something simil...
holy shit looking at it like this my eyes feel blessed 🙌
pastel knot
steady abyss
i have alot of things i want to be better at and its hard to spend time on everything
I wish i was better at speaking and reading Japanese (mostly the kanji) , I wish i was better at 3d modeling so i could make cooler 3d prints, I wish i was better at drawing so I could actually be proud enough to make things for myself. And the list only goes on
pastel knot
gotta take it one step at a time
i think this video might apply here really well
i remember watching this many years ago and reading your message made me think of it
pastel knot
left atlas
treeee i draw treeee yayyyyy
are trees hard?
this will be my first full background project
posted for critic i need assistance
left atlas
is this convincing
proud birch
Oh
I recommend umm
Nvm actually
You can lessen the line density and rely alot more on low opacity texture brushes instead on stack of each other
Creating a more natural look
pearl ruin
For trees i think less detail works to create a better sense of depth. Also you could use different values. But I think you did alright.
proud birch
True, i think the fastest fix here is lowering the opacity of the tree lineart
Lolol
Or umm ig just overlaying color over the lines to match the background
pearl ruin
I don't know if this is a good example but this is how I make trees.
steady abyss
lines on a screen
left atlas
imma change the trees, but this is the possible colors
i could make a horizon upwards and put a couple trees or mounts but idk if that would be possible from this angle
steady abyss
steady abyss
color reminded me of that
left atlas
i dont like using black unless i have to so i use dark blues
arknights has a better way if this where the colors still look whiteish which im figuring out
steady abyss
understandable
left atlas
i could work with this?
i lowered a lot of opacity in some lines so theyd need to be changed to colored
eh they were gonna be
left atlas
You can lessen the line density and rely alot more on low opacity texture brushe...
do you recommend any brushes? if you dk i can find something close to bark i got a lot
left atlas
I don't know if this is a good example but this is how I make trees.
can i get the timelapse for this
proud birch
imma change the trees, but this is the possible colors
Oh this looks nice
proud birch
do you recommend any brushes? if you dk i can find something close to bark i got...
Something like a cloud brush or bleed brushes or ummm pastel work
Just anything rough looking honestly
Airbursh also works ngl
But keep it super big size and apply lightly
Just to show depths around the curves of the tree
left atlas
i had the strangest idea of giving her lava glow ruby eyes but i wouldn’t pull it off
matter of face i never seen someone do it yet, tron lazer eyes
back in topic, my airbrush is real soft, like putting on blush
one thing i think i can do is make a pallete of two colors and mix them to look messy ish
open flint
this is really cool. i went through a pixel art phase where I REALLY wanted to master pixel art trees. just trees
i should get back into it. i enjoyed pixel art
left atlas
i am no painter
what i did was kinda close to energy searching which is a pro technique, but the tree is a twix bar
no matter, new plan
actually….could i make it work.
steady abyss
ill scrap it
oh, no you dont need to do that, the shading just doesn't really make much sense if its supposed to be a forest, what i meant is it looks like a topdown photo of water in like a swamp where it was colored
left atlas
i see, honestly i was mixing a buncof texteured brushes and seeing if it turns to bark
i need to see a study on how others do it
steady abyss
i have no idea how to draw trees ngl
these are my best attempts at trees so i really have no right to criticize haha
left atlas
oh i think i understand
i over did it
this artist just made the whole tree gray and used like 2 textures
i used like 5
if i focus on the far one i should be good
💀
i see now
cerulean mountain
arknights?
proud birch
i am no painter
That tree looks really professional looking it just needs lighting, shadows and desaturation on some areas
I wish you the best of luck its cooking good
left atlas
That tree looks really professional looking it just needs lighting, shadows and ...
in professional works i happen to look at the less focused stuff, in the far tree, the artist used only one brush for lighting
all i need to do is figure out why its like that
well 2
proud birch
If it helps this artist used this eraser for texturing
left atlas
i could have sworn they used a low oppacity brush and the base color was darker
interesting...
proud birch
i could have sworn they used a low oppacity brush and the base color was darker
Yeah they overlayed tons of lighter color layers sequentially
left atlas
i lowkey do the opposite , seems i have to work with darker colors now
left atlas
i was testing stuff out then i was reminded of chrono triggrt
i made 3 diff versions
hmm or was it stardew
the first one is a fusion of two different brushes
steady abyss
And then offset the lines angle
i thought this was evils thumb about to poke the viewers eye out
tall trench
Man I have an "OC" that I really like but haven't drawn her much.
Though recently I have started to think about some sort of backstory and lore for her. But if I continue down this path, I won't be able to use her as a mascot 
I know I know. Stupid concern but I just wanted to let someone know.
left atlas
Though recently I have started to think about some sort of backstory and lore fo...
how would having a backstory stop them? is the backstory they die?
tall trench
Hmm. The best way I can describe are YTs with mascots. They don't have any story and just serve to look cute or be some sort of persona.
But maybe I'm overthinking kekw
eager kiln
I'd personally find it more interesting if the persona did have a backstory. So many soulless characters exist that it'd be refreshing to have one with substance. You could always use that story to make your channel unique if you want to.
left atlas
Hmm. The best way I can describe are YTs with mascots. They don't have any story...
how about a spin off design placeholder.
?*
eager kiln
That'd work until a choice is made. At least I'd think so.
tall trench
how about a spin off design placeholder.
Could you elaborate?
left atlas
okay so
wonder bros wanted to make a super hero show about the looney toons so they changed the style bc it would be out of character
they were the same, variants even but entirely different
viscid gust
I love my OC
left atlas
oh i think they did it in paper mario too where mario and paper mario are different people
left atlas
what is their name btw?
tall trench
I love my OC
Ye what's her name?
left atlas
i thought it was a flamboyant boy
i was reminded of that one red hair guy from star rail who always tried to fight me
this freaking guy
versed bridge
My OC is just genderbent me :LULE:
left atlas
i dont think i ever had an oc, im more suited to designs then forgetting them
tall trench
My OC is just genderbent me :LULE:
Wait you're not a cute girl??