like the back or the chest muscles
#Artist General
gentle chasm
crimson comet
maybe just the main muscle groups
crimson comet
and shape them into 1 group
gentle chasm
ill do that
crimson comet
i have a book guide on how to draw anatomy but simplified
literally just showing the main important shapes that should be drawn
proud birch
By smaller muscles dw its easily solved by having a ref ready when making art, then youll just remember it after drawing for awhile
gentle chasm
make yourself as the ref
im fat and i have literally no muscles
nah
i mean just the biceps
proud birch
This study transitions into how ur shaping the body with shadows later on like this
crimson comet
fucking hell that shading is nice
how does one shade like that
airbrush or watercolor
gentle chasm
you know youre right i should just study it easily
but I MUST GET BETTER
RAHHHHHHHHHHHH
full muscles
crimson comet
crimson comet
i wonder how would yall shade this if i send in the outlines
gentle chasm
sometimes im a massive fucking masochist
proud birch
Acutally i have alazy way to do it
U like just use a hardbrush on where ur light is
And then u shape it with smudge tool just eyeball what areas should be hard
crimson comet
idk whats the equivalent of that in medibang
maybe i need to look in it a bit more
proud birch
Ohh i remember actually i think its the blur tool
It looks like ear cotton buds on the brushes
Oh yeah u have to download it online i forgot
crimson comet
is it an online brush?
proud birch
Yeah i think so hopefully ur version has one built it
Since i was using like a 2021 version
crimson comet
i could try doing that shading style
ive been doing cell shading because idk how to do anything else
crimson comet
flat colors i think
crimson comet
i wonder how would yall shade this if i send in the outlines
@proud birch do you wanna try
crimson comet
just the coloring
crimson comet
ye
my workflow is just do the solid base and abuse clipping to do coloring and shading
proud birch
Oh you want me to try this coloring style on my art?
proud birch
Okay alright giimme a sec
crimson comet
w/o shading
proud birch
It looks just like an edit lol
Oh yeah i forgot to add the layers
These layer types i use to get the color correct
Because im too lazy to find the right color
sharp sundial
what does color burn do anyways?
proud birch
It darkens then increases the colors saturation
sharp sundial
I've always stuck to normal, multiply, and sometimes soft light
sharp sundial
It darkens then increases the colors saturation
oooh I can see that being useful for shadows
harsh arch
People organized enough to use a different layer for every specific element of the shading scare me
proud birch
Multiply is a common layer type for shadows usually but if u dont want it to look muddy looking u can use linear/color burn
sharp sundial
People organized enough to use a different layer for every specific element of t...
I know there's a painting workflow where you render the image like a game engine
proud birch
People organized enough to use a different layer for every specific element of t...
Oh lolol
sharp sundial
Multiply is a common layer type for shadows usually but if u dont want it to loo...
thus far I just picked a good shadow color
proud birch
I see
harsh arch
I know there's a painting workflow where you render the image like a game engine
I usually just paint on one layer or divide it into a couple of major layers
proud birch
If u lazy like me u can mix color burn then half opacity the shadow layer and it would automatically pick the right color most of the time
sharp sundial
XD I'm going to try using it now
proud birch
Duplicate shadow, one is full color burn other half muktiply
Since im bad at color theory
I usually dont know what the right color would be
sharp sundial
I usually dont know what the right color would be
the way I think of it is the lighting
shadows take on some of the atmosphere's light, so if bright blue sky then blue shadows
if indoors with a lot of red bounce light, then red shadows
proud birch
Ohh yeah i use overlay for that so the color blends well with dark areas
Since ambient light like that usually exists deep in shadows right
sharp sundial
yeah, only places where it's full dark is contact shadows
sharp sundial
ambient occlusion will also reduce the impact of the ambient color
crimson comet
proud birch
Sometimes i like a popping ambient light it looks like rimlight lol
sharp sundial
(insert 'mhmm' emote here)
crimson comet
proud birch
Like here
proud birch
Okay i think this is. Abad example now it looks like 2 light sources
crimson comet
psd instead
proud birch
Ohh
sharp sundial
proud birch
Sorry i draw in phone ibispaint cant actually import files like these lolol
crimson comet
you have this shit in 4k!?
sharp sundial
ohhh ok
crimson comet
Sorry i draw in phone ibispaint cant actually import files like these lolol
do you want color and outline exported to png
proud birch
Oh its all good im sleeping soon and i dont want to keep u guys waiting lolol
proud birch
But i think i can do a rough shadowing
But i dont qanna bother u lol, if u want to ye u can export it
Ill try just doing grayscale
sharp sundial
how I would do it (but only kinda, since I didn't spend a lot of time on it)
proud birch
Thank you but your shading better
sharp sundial
I didn't do much shading beyond a few shadows, mostly it's the colors
proud birch
Idk why i made this 3 min it should be like 30 secs
sharp sundial
proud birch
@crimson comet heres the speedpaint if you like
crimson comet
Idk why i made this 3 min it should be like 30 secs
wait
only 3 mins?
thats insanely fast
sharp sundial
thats insanely fast
I think that was the timelapse duration
hybrid pilot
@viscid gust how the fuck can I imitate an art style so well?
Like look at this
I fear that I am too good at imitating styles
gentle chasm
idk
worn briar
are we doing spooktober or inktober
viscid gust
Oh for october I am posting a inktober/spooktober callender and challeging the whole chat to join in with me
mild cliff
redraw
steady abyss
Oh for october I am posting a inktober/spooktober callender and challeging the w...
ink
viscid gust
is there a difference?
tidal cosmos
my birthmonth 
viscid gust
you excited for some spooky neuros?
viscid gust
i wanted to do an art comp for halloween like last year
but idk if i wanna ask vedal since the previous one got delayed and didnt finish till july
if we dont get a haloween art comp i want to do a christmas comp at least
tidal cosmos
oh yea that one sub i was gonna give havvent yetr been given 
viscid gust
i dont like the idea of asking the community for rewards for a real actual-sized community event
tidal cosmos
brittle fern
I'm in a state of delirium due working this long ass shift, but someone remind me to ask Evil about their preferred monster hunter weapon next time she gets a stream. I've an idea for a long term art project
It's probs not gonna get to start for a bit til I'm more comfortable with drawing or starting digital art, but I want try and draw the Neuros in various monster hunter armors + weapons
versed bridge
Pretty sick
crimson comet
Oh for october I am posting a inktober/spooktober callender and challeging the w...
im gonna do 30 min sketches maximum for those
would be cool
hybrid pilot
Oh for october I am posting a inktober/spooktober callender and challeging the w...
I might actually be doing that for this Tumblr blog I run lmaooooo
viscid gust
It's probs not gonna get to start for a bit til I'm more comfortable with drawin...
excited for you!!
brittle fern
Thank you guys. I did want to ask you guys where/how you draw your digital art. I don't have drawing tablet myself and wanted to see how viable it was to do digital art
viscid gust
I started with pencil and paper. When I switched to tablet I was absolute garbage for a good while
I use a Wacom One Medium. It’s very cheap and works really nicely. It’s a great starter tablet if you don’t mind looking at your screen while drawing instead of the tablet itself
As for drawing programs, I use paint tools SAI. I have a really old copy of it, but the program itself is still extremely viable.
worn briar
Thank you guys. I did want to ask you guys where/how you draw your digital art. ...
I have a old-ass Samsung Tab A 8.0 from 2015, I'm not sure how many pressure levels the pen has but I'm not good enough yet to make full use of it
also I borrow my sister's Wacom Intuos
versed bridge
I haven't got too much into digital
Best I have is just ibis paint on iphone 7 plus
crimson comet
Thank you guys. I did want to ask you guys where/how you draw your digital art. ...
i had used an old wacom tablet that my brother gave to me before i switched to a huion h640p (MYR120) that i bought in the end of 2021, i used it for drawing and playing osu, still works great
i have 786 hours on osu mostly with this tablet
crimson comet
I use a Wacom One Medium. It’s very cheap and works really nicely. It’s a great ...
define "cheap"
viscid gust
define "cheap"
Like 40-60 bucks??
versed bridge
Damn
crimson comet
maybe on an unrelated note, most osu top players use wacom one as their tablet
so it is the ol reliable
dumb question
the fuck does stabilizer do
proud birch
It lole smoothens pen strokes
crimson comet
so just make it slower and more stablized then
proud birch
Oh btw
Once u got the hang of like
Quick strokes
Stabilizers wont be a thing ngl
In my experience using them makes strokes feel heavier so you have to exert more force on the strokes
sharp sundial
I use an xp-pen deco 01 v2
it's pretty good, only problem I have with it is that the reaching the advertised 8000 levels of pressure sensitivity requires pressing down with a lot of force on the tablet
so I halve the sensitivity for the sake of my fingers
(it doesn't affect anything except maybe when I want to do lineart, but I can just change it back)
there is a bit of warmup time required to adjust your hand-eye coordination
sometimes the tablet will be physically off angle, which again requires a little bit of warmup to adjust for
you could get a stand and make sure it's always perfectly horizontal, but that is extra moneys
robust sleet
Speaking of drawing tablets, does anyone know how to smoothen up the pen tips? Mine feels like drawing on sandpaper now
proud birch
U can like
viscid gust
if its a wacom tablet you can just replace the nibs
proud birch
Ye lolol
robust sleet
Guess thats around 2 months of use per nibs then
viscid gust
i bought extra nibs with mine just in case lol
exotic tree
Funny thing, I’ve kind of got the opposite “problem.” Anyone know how to make the tablet more resistant to movement? I’m having a hard time with digital since my muscle memory is used to pencil on paper.
proud birch
Oh it broke a year ago
viscid gust
oh
proud birch
Funny thing, I’ve kind of got the opposite “problem.” Anyone know how to make th...
Stabilizers help actually
viscid gust
Funny thing, I’ve kind of got the opposite “problem.” Anyone know how to make th...
you just kinda have to learn new muscle memory
theres screen protectors that can make it feel like paper, bit they are notorious for destroying pens
proud birch
It slows down your pen strokes
viscid gust
i draw with stabilzer on
not a big one, but it slowed me down a bit and made me a somewhat better artist
proud birch
Yeah true
exotic tree
I see, I see. Perhaps I’ll look into it. Gonna try some more digital, but for now I’ll stick with trad art.
I definitely have much to learn either way.
proud birch
If u need more slowing power you can download a tablet driver attachment if ur using like opentablet driver
viscid gust
take it at your own pace
proud birch
Theres a stronger stabilizer
viscid gust
paint tools sai 1 have some pretty powerful stabilzers
proud birch
The benefit is that its very slow stroke but the lines is silky smooth
Ohh sounds nice
Its great when programs have built it stuff like that
exotic tree
Wow. Thanks helpful peoples!
brittle fern
thank you guys. I'm not in the best spot as far as money goes rn but I will take some of these into consideration. I didn't consider that going into digital, your muscle memory would not be the same.... also buy extra nibs, got it.
i'll probably just use pen and paper at first to practice those drawings, then attempt to convert them into a digital setting once i get set up with a tablet
sharp sundial
xp pen does give you like 8 extra nibs with the tablet
gentle chasm
DAY 4 anatomy speedrun
this is non referenced
i drew based on what i learned
from skeletal structure and muscle groups
anatomy helps a goddamn bunch
proud birch
Oh thats nice
gentle chasm
yey
proud birch
Ur actually good to draw spicy poses now
I think i have a technique suited for this type of style ur doing
gentle chasm
enlightenme
crimson comet
xp pen does give you like 8 extra nibs with the tablet
huion have 8 too + a stand
they also give a drawing glove
drawing glove is so fucking goated for drawing
crimson comet
gentle chasm
ive see nthe box before and i personally dont like it that much
its not anatomically accurate
for example the shoulders
if you draw it in boxes it wont be able to move
proud birch
Oh its alright
The boxes are just there for 3 things
Perspective, flow of joints and the placement of body
gentle chasm
oh yea youre right
proud birch
But mostly persoective yeah
gentle chasm
perspectives
proud birch
Yeah since our body parts kinda like boxes in a way
crimson comet
this fucker want to climb on my lap
proud birch
Lol
crimson comet
proud birch
the planes can also help what angle the light is gonna hit
And then from here ill shape the ribs and hips
But yeah
The lineups i use are torso is 1.5-1.6x the size of head, hips 2x the length of head, basically u can imagine a head per half of the hip and thats gonna be the buttcheek per head
I didnt show the cirlce since it could clutter
crimson comet
how does one ratio the limbs
sharp sundial
Legs are half the full body length
Arms end a little below the hips
Like at 1/3 of the thighs
You can of course set your own proportions to emphasize some aspect of the character
sharp sundial
huion have 8 too + a stand
Yeah, I also got those too, a stand, drawing gloves plus a screen protector
brittle fern
if i'm going to keep going on pencil and paper, i should probably try and create some references similar to this. it feels harder to cover up anything I need to get rid of, and I just kind of deal with it and do my best
sharp sundial
I didn't have a screen protector for my last tablet, and so I etched grooves into the surface from continuous use
proud birch
Oh i recommend using like
sharp sundial
those grooves made drawing any steady lines a pain
proud birch
4h-6h pencils
And i just do light strokes
For some reason these pencil strokes fade away themselves
brittle fern
i'll have to consider it
I've been restarting with the leftovers of an old art kit i got for christmas a few years back
which didn't include something like that
actually it did
i just gave a lot of it to my sister
for what i'm working with rn though i've still been having a good time
versed bridge
Yea, you need to get used to doing light strokes
But those H pencils do help tho
Even though I've never used them lule
I've been doodling with mechanical pencil all my life
brittle fern
I do light strokes with what i have.
hopefully i can get some more equipment later on this week
crimson comet
But those H pencils do help tho
i just used 2b pencils
and control the blackness with pressure control
no fuss needed
versed bridge
Good ol Piiot
jolly holly
imagine having one
It's the same one I have 
molten sluice
imagine having one
Tf did you do!
crimson comet
Tf did you do!
molten sluice
Rip huion drawing tablet
sharp sundial
check this shit out
just discovered this app today, and holy is it a game changer
can finally have my references not clutter my drawing screen
tawdry leaf
check this shit out
I always wondered about working in VR in replacement of a traditional setup.
sharp sundial
oh hell yeah does it work
I actually like it a lot more than my desktop
though that might be because I have a single 1080p monitor
and let me tell you I can't wait for when blender has full vr support
tawdry leaf
I guess going from a single 1080p to a VR 1080p isn't that bad. Headsets are getting better with their resolutions.
sharp sundial
q3 is 2k per eye
versed bridge
Maybe they'll get affordable in the future too
tawdry leaf
a 3D modeling program in VR should feel like sci-fi
sharp sundial
oh it absolutely does
I used one to make a female bust
felt so much better than doing it on my desktop
tawdry leaf
The coolest VR I experienced was a C.A.V.E. system for engineering. That felt like a startrek holodeck walking around a 1:1 virtual engine
sharp sundial
ooh, what's that?
tawdry leaf
CAVE is where they use 3D projectors on wall and floor. You then wear tracked 3D glasses. the scene is linked to your head movement.
So when you reach out your physical hand, it's like you're really touching something.
tawdry leaf
Engineers use it for rendering interior cabins and parts to prototype how assembly and mechanics will actualy interact with the equipment. So getting that 1:1 ratio is crucial
sharp sundial
oh, damn
tawdry leaf
The graphics and shading are simplified, but being a CAD program, means the 3D drawings are detailed down to the individual screws. It was neat seeing an engine assembly and every little tiny piece rendered.
sharp sundial
painted this with this setup
tawdry leaf
That's really cool
sharp sundial
the roughness is because it's just a concept
I'm not making an illustration, trying to come up with a good design for a protagonist
also tried just a normal hooman, but I dunno. Too basic?
tawdry leaf
It's neat seeing how digital art techniques is different from physical art. There simularities with scribble concepts, but in digital being able to use bigger brushes and layering the shading.
versed bridge
Sick
tawdry leaf
Goth, nice 🙂
sharp sundial
someone said it wasn't goth, need more accessories or something
then I realised I have no idea what goth actually is
versed bridge
I just thought Goth is just similar to the funeral dress
sharp sundial
I thought it was all about about that black, emo style
tawdry leaf
goth/emo/edgy/punk the whole black on black genre
versed bridge
Wait no, old london style
tawdry leaf
grunge / scene
versed bridge
Goth dress is gorgeous tho
sharp sundial
I have some enemy concepts as well
versed bridge
Oh, I was thinking about Gothic Japanese
sharp sundial
here I tried the silhoette technique
sharp sundial
Oh, I was thinking about Gothic Japanese
I honestly have zero knowledge about these genres/styles, and I have no idea how one would naturally accrue that knowledge
sharp sundial
Though to be honest I just care about the aesthetic not the history or cultural significance of the genres
hidden willow
btw it's fine to mention gothic lolita now, that was just blocked because... yknow... loli* filter
versed bridge
Yea I know
sharp sundial
Though to be honest I just care about the aesthetic not the history or cultural ...
I'd totally watch a 3 hour long video essay on the topic though
sharp sundial
I love this enemy concept out of all of them, it's definitely going into the final game
sharp sundial
I'm going for cosmic/eldritch horror type of monsters
so I don't know, it's summoning a black hole or something
crimson comet
check this shit out
how does one set this up
tawdry leaf
They're so happy
crimson comet
or is it only on quest 3
sharp sundial
or is it only on quest 3
don't know if it's limited to q3
sharp sundial
but I used meta remote desktop + horizons something
versed bridge
No eyes would be cool
crimson comet
do you have q3?
sharp sundial
meta horizons workrooms
sharp sundial
do you have q3?
yeah
sharp sundial
No eyes would be cool
hmm
versed bridge
Since they're not bound by our understanding
sharp sundial
it might not work on q2 because of passthrough or maybe it might
I think you could do the same thing with virtual desktop though
sharp sundial
Since they're not bound by our understanding
I'm going to try it out
versed bridge
:forsenOkay:
sharp sundial
not too sure, I like the unhinged look of the original
sharp sundial
I think this guy should have no face though
tawdry leaf
so, what's happening with the guy on the bottom, is he holding the beast up? getting eaten?
tawdry leaf
He reminds me of the Cortex Reaver from System Shock. Big beast, little dude dangling from it.
sharp sundial
there's also a mecha like that in armored core when I think about it
versed bridge
I see
sharp sundial
here's another concept, this one I'm not too sure about because it's more Erm than I wanted
I was going for some kind of soul draining monster
tawdry leaf
So, if he's summoning the big monster, it's probably through a form of sacrifice or giving away his own physical to manifest something bigger. Could give the small guy a face of skull to represent that his energy is going into the summoning.
sharp sundial
I like the idea of him sacrificing himself, though if I were to represent it I'd use like anguish? or something else
tawdry leaf
here's another concept, this one I'm not too sure about because it's more Erm th...
now that looks like an interesting monster. collects its victim to slowly siphon off of.
versed bridge
Look like something you'd see from Darkest Dungeon
sharp sundial
now that looks like an interesting monster. collects its victim to slowly siphon...
yeah!
versed bridge
The collector
tawdry leaf
If collecting, instead of a snake head, use a hand or talon to "snag" victims?
versed bridge
It is a monster from Darkest dungeon btw
sharp sundial
I wanted to make like a lantern monster that slowly burnt it's victims to provide some sort of rejuvenating light to it's allies
sharp sundial
If collecting, instead of a snake head, use a hand or talon to "snag" victims?
maybe really long and gaunt arms would look cool
sharp sundial
I wanted to make like a lantern monster that slowly burnt it's victims to provid...
man I sound like a psychopath
tawdry leaf
man I sound like a psychopath
having two arms, that "grab" or collects. It needs the ability to attach its collections to itself to feed off of.
tawdry leaf
I'll be honest, I don't even know what this thing is
HEY MORTY! Look what I did! I Turned myself into a Lovecraftian horror! LOVECRAFTIAN RIIIIIICCCKK!!
sharp sundial
having two arms, that "grab" or collects. It needs the ability to attach its col...
my initial idea was for it to be a big cylinder, and it would slam down onto it's victims and start grinding, and a light bulb at the top would start radiating
wait I have more concepts over on linux, let me reboot real quick
here I have another robot design
and another robot design
tawdry leaf
and another robot design
that is a nice design. dark and creepy. it's like theres fingers pulling the face open
sharp sundial
that is a nice design. dark and creepy. it's like theres fingers pulling the fac...
ooh I didn't think of that
there's this dude
another one
tawdry leaf
another one
getting a Made in the Abyss vibe from this one.
sharp sundial
made in abyss huh? how come?
also, here I have King Contempt a potential boss character
And I think this is the last one
yeah, that's all of them
versed bridge
Man, all of these are sick
sharp sundial
I plan on having my art having so much appeal that people are going to want to buy vr just to play my game
so far I have people asking for my socials because of the character in my pfp so I think it's working
tawdry leaf
made in abyss huh? how come?
I think it might be from the eye shading.
sharp sundial
I think it might be from the eye shading.
I see...
it's possible that I was inspired by Made in abyss sub consciously while making this art
I know that the lantern enemy was in retrospect inspired by the Guttermen from ultrakill
tawdry leaf
It's neat how Subconscious influence flows into creativity where your mind assembles familiar pieces into a new unique creation.
It gives it both originality but also a sense of familiar.
tawdry leaf
“good artists borrow, great artists steal.”- Picasso?
tawdry leaf
It's been said by a lot of people. There's some debate if it originated with Picasso, but definitely repeated
sharp sundial
I see
tawdry leaf
A popular book that uses the concept.
sharp sundial
mhmm
jolly holly
Experimenting with my style. Abandoning pixels and embracing shading. (Also, bratifying Evil)
glacial estuary
I saved up like 12 reference images for a piece i have in my head
Lets see about the execution
jolly holly
Starting with the bangs was not the best idea 
sharp sundial
Asmon-sama
jolly holly
I think it has potential, but it's hard to draw without the pixel grid guiding me 
elder trench
finaly a face i dont hate, i think its coming along nicely. the only thing missing is shading and stuff.
any obvious mistakes i need to fix up in
elder trench
I know I kinda feel like there’s something off, was thinking about trying to figure it out tomorrow
viscid gust
are they perhaps too wide??
elder trench
Il have a look at that tomorrow then, thanks for thefeedback
open flint
open flint
also, here I have King Contempt a potential boss character
this is so sick
worn briar
A popular book that uses the concept.
beginners call it stealing art styles
apprentices call it master studies
brittle fern
borzoi is so cool
viscid gust
borzoi is god
brittle fern
Once I'm home I might try to draw evil in her newer design. See how that goes
versed bridge
Damn
proud birch
last wip before i do the background
versed bridge
Very nice
bleak agate
last wip before i do the background
jolly holly
last wip before i do the background
Evil tummy 
glacial estuary
i love tummy 
weak wave
how to tree shading
There are a million ways to do tree shading but I would probably do something like this
Here are the steps
weak wave
This also works for other background stuff too like mountains or buildings
proud birch
You can like either outline the whole leaves or part by part like ramen did
I think its gonna be up to preference
weak wave
Yeah there’s no one right way to do this, I’d recommend searching for some reference you like and copying that as well
Also highly recommend using tree texture brushes, they save so much time
I used a brush from this
crimson comet
There are a million ways to do tree shading but I would probably do something li...
damn
that looks insane
crimson comet
https://tamberella.gumroad.com/l/UrGvW?layout=profile
im working in medibang so that file type doesnt work for me
also ill prob do something like this
glacial estuary
worn briar
on a subject with uh gifted proportions
worn briar
is that a model
looks like it
two Styrofoam balls and some clay
and the fauxfur for belly meat
crimson comet
man
jolly holly
https://x.com/emokakimasu/status/1805991650864648612?t=9-VSBfQ1-_f32H4VNjRaUg&s=...
That’s genius 
bleak agate
crimson comet
now i wonder if i should redo the whole tree
should i undo like ~45 mins of work
ramen's technique looks so fucking good tho
crimson comet
i could accentuate the shape with the shading more
turbid karma
Oh yeah, redrawing movie frames is great practice
glacial estuary
just making a one time illustration, wish me luck
jolly holly
should i undo like ~45 mins of work
I would’ve redone it, but don’t think of it as a waste of time, it’s practice, AND you get a thing you can be happy about as a result
gentle chasm
ah yes the reddit snoo antenna femur
i mean it is what it is
actually no
im wrong
thanks
crimson comet
I would’ve redone it, but don’t think of it as a waste of time, it’s practice, A...
but i have like 3 more projects to tackle + prepping for uni entry atm
wary briar
Love this, i wanna make some creatures like this in the future
versed bridge
Is that DD?
wary briar
Its from Paranormal Order, its a Tabletop RPG game too
they have a lot of awesome creatures
Like this one too
crimson comet
i like the texture 
wary briar
this is the Bestiary, if you guys wanna check out more creatures and see the lore behind them
versed bridge
Damn, sick
crimson comet
i think this is viable
nvm i changed the shading flow
this should look kinda good imo
wdy think
crimson comet
You can try to change the color of the lineart
oh true
crimson comet
You’ll see the difference
maybe
boreal stump
Yeah looks better imo at least
crimson comet
what next
viscid gust
I forgot to announce the redraw this week whoops
I’ll do it in a bit
Got to announce server karaoke too
mild cliff
what next
I drew a few ideas on the background (only the third one doesn't completely change the sky).
From the perspective you're drawing, I think you should be able to see the ground (look up reference images)
mild cliff
I would start by determining the horizon line
elder trench
i really like the first one, it feels to scale
crimson comet
i think a mix between the first and second would be nice
elder trench
agreed
elder trench
thos small guys needs to be vissible
mild cliff
if you want it to be foggy still you can definitely move the fog lower than what I drew
mild cliff
small fellas
didn't even notice those guys tho
versed bridge
Good luck
elder trench
fuck me i just deleted days of work literally days (thankfully not what i was working on but still) by cropping and accidentally saving my canvas. god fuck i hate that stupid photosop there is noting i can do to recover my work, i hate my life now. why why cant they just have a file version history like so many other industry programs
viscid gust
can you not just ctrl z
@shut obsidian im really late to asking but youre up for weekly redraw if you wanna provide something!
Feel free to grab an old piece!
elder trench
nope, i tried and it does nothing. was trying to have one canvas with lots of art and in my infenetly wise mind i decided to crop withouth unchecking the "delete all cropped pixels" box, i doodled some more thingking il just see what it will look like before i revert back and bam my mind automaticly hit save. its entierly my own fault, but hey its just a doodle and not what i was working on
versed bridge
:FeelsBadMan:
versed bridge
Cute
elder trench
thanks, 
was kinda what i was going for
viscid gust
oh but i think i kinda fixed the face tho, so there is that
this looks a lot better!
elder trench
think so as well, changed the shape a little and the angle, they arent as slanted now which works better with the face as well. il just have to get better at faces in general
turbid karma
oh but i think i kinda fixed the face tho, so there is that
Where's the light coming from? I'm just looking at the art and I see that on one part of the body it's from top, on another part it's from the side and on another part it's from the opposite side
elder trench
Where's the light coming from? I'm just looking at the art and I see that on one...
i wasnt to worried about the direction so as of now its a bit everywhere, just wanted some basic shading for now. will fix that. theres a bunch of small mistakes i need to fix up in before i say myself happy
elder trench
Where's the light coming from? I'm just looking at the art and I see that on one...
oh i just looked at the image again and i realized. its not shadows its tan, and tanlines from a swimsuit
maybe i should make that clearer
gentle chasm
WIP
i dunno how i managed to draw this
this is like 10 times more than what i could achieve
right now
what i drew before that
elder trench
do you draw a stick figure skeleton before adding muscles
elder trench
you just need the general shape and way bones moves like simplify the thighbone into a line with a socket, but the idea is to make a proportionally correct stick figure that you can dress up in muscles. i find that it helps
elder trench
i guess its betta_daily on twitter. lots of thighs
worn briar
mildly nsfw
Twitter
well, that's just because the thighs contain the second most amount of mass in the body
elder trench
true
elder trench
@gentle chasm this book is also helpful in learning anatomy
worn briar
classic
elder trench
which reminds me that i should probably flip throught it a little
elder trench
you can also find a lot of good manga anatomy books on webarchive as well. its mostly what i have used
gentle chasm
oh my god this book is godly
versed bridge
I see
gentle chasm
alr
turbid karma
ayo
elder trench
i have a huge folder of japanese drawing books that i "borrowed" from interenet archive
wary briar
i dont speak japonese 
turbid karma
oh i just looked at the image again and i realized. its not shadows its tan, and...
Nah, I knew right away it was a tan, I was talking about the shadows, on hair, body, face and hands they are different on the light source
elder trench
Nah, I knew right away it was a tan, I was talking about the shadows, on hair, b...
ah now i see it
shut obsidian
<@700496265590472806> im really late to asking but youre up for weekly redraw if...
here you go
bacterial contamination evil
versed bridge
Look like the bug girl from Overlord for a sec
viscid gust
here you go
viscid gust
here you go
I'm a day late but here you guys go! Weekly redraw time! You got till Saturday!
@vast cobalt
@robust sleet
@untold trench
@proud birch
@harsh arch
@shut obsidian
@mild cliff
@weak wave
@hybrid pilot
@viscid gust
@wise stone
@white bison
@elder trench
@glacial estuary
@signal bobcat
@worn briar
@dull thorn
@open flint
@jolly holly
In case any of you haven't seen, this weeks redraw is this! You have until Saturday to redraw it! Remember it can be in whatever style you want! It can be a sketch, it can be a finished piece, it can be a 3-D render! Whatever you want! Just remember it doesnt have to to be 1:1! Have fun!
Also if you wish to not be pinged about this weekly just let me know! (Its the best I can do until enough people join in to warrant a new server role)
glacial estuary
neuro robo-skinwalker
worn briar
haven't done insectoids yet but this is good practice
viscid gust
I'm a day late but here you guys go! Weekly redraw time! You got till Saturday!
...
i should at some point order this copypasta to have the names scale up in size
to be aesthetically pleasing
jolly holly
I'm a day late but here you guys go! Weekly redraw time! You got till Saturday!
...
I'll join in too 
viscid gust
I'll join in too <:Okay:1068635818345889923>
would you like to be added to the group ping from now on?
jolly holly
Sure, but I probably would skip some of them
brittle fern
I'm a day late but here you guys go! Weekly redraw time! You got till Saturday!
...
I... will take part. wasn't sure if i wanted to at first but doing new things is usually a good idea.
viscid gust
I... will take part. wasn't sure if i wanted to at first but doing new things is...
The weekly redraws are important for budding artists!
brittle fern
Oh and I thought I'd do something based off the newer evil neuro design anny made. Nothing crazy but I like the new design
viscid gust
it pulls you out of your comfort zone and it has you draw something you never would’ve thought of drawing
viscid gust
Oh and I thought I'd do something based off the newer evil neuro design anny mad...
Extremely cute!
brittle fern
Extremely cute!
thank you
this was a bit messy
also wasn't the first try on this.
on a definitely unrelated note i'm running out of paper lmao
brittle fern
it pulls you out of your comfort zone and it has you draw something you never wo...
yeah, that's a fair point. I should've taken part of the lasat redraw... might still do it
viscid gust
You have until Saturday for this new one
brittle fern
after i saw what some people here did, i kind of regretted it.
Got it
go ahead and add me to the list while you're at it.
even if i suck at these i want to throw my hat in the ring
robust sleet
The more people joins the merrier it gets. Also dont worry about how your art turns out for the weekly redraw, you can even submit a sketch and youre good to go 
jolly holly
Lmao, I didn’t even know I have a deviant art account 
robust sleet
also on a sidenote, this is now the 9th weekly redraw ever since the start. Its been over 2 months now since this started
jolly holly
No way it’s been 9 weeks 
undone hare
this folder is getting dusty
but for the sake of bad story telling and art, i think i should put it down, i like the idea but my execution is bad but i learnt a lot, thank you to those who still remember about this and occasionally ask about it 
turbid karma
but for the sake of bad story telling and art, i think i should put it down, i l...
About plot I kinda agree, but as for the Art part you are totally wrong, every page is gorgeous and some of them can be looked at for a very long time. You can feel how much has been put into the manga as soon as you open it. It's a shame you want to abandon it, but it is what it is, let's hope you get some inspiration for new works!
gentle chasm
but for the sake of bad story telling and art, i think i should put it down, i l...
whats your idea
oh mygod
what the fuck you mean your execution is bad
right now, uniqueness is better than quality
try to be unique
you already have the skill
brittle fern
but for the sake of bad story telling and art, i think i should put it down, i l...
... you made the manga??? Holy crap i was wondering what happened with it! I dont comment about it because i just dont like twitter and dont really comment on pixiv at all.
And I'm sorry, but I have to agree with reyforn. your art is incredible. incredible professional looking art. I'll understand if you dont think you can make a good story out of it and want to stop, but if you dont want to stop, dont feel like you have to out of some obligation!
brittle fern
but for the sake of bad story telling and art, i think i should put it down, i l...
Sorry for the mention again but I'll say that if you're more worried about the storytelling bits, don't forget that akira toriyama didn't really plan out the finer details either. he went with the flow of things, and the way that your story set up, it's still in it's early days. You've got time to figure things out if you're not happy right now with it. You've got the advantage of being able to take your time on it.
But ultimately it's up to you. You'll be supported regardless by everyone here no matter what.
undone hare
this is my answer to some people who asked, i dont wish to start a conversation, thank you for your care and time
jolly holly
Evil tummy
drowsy hinge
Start of an animation im doing (potentialy for a shitty little game)
crimson comet
I drew a few ideas on the background (only the third one doesn't completely chan...
wdy think
basically a continuation of the bridge
elder trench
there is something to it
wary briar
elder trench
you can do it 
i think the new "composition" if done right will be cool, it fills in a lot of empty space
crimson comet
just realised theres over 10k brush strokes done on the project already
and the timelapse of 1 min is 85 mb
crimson comet
you can do it <a:NeuroCheer:1083946347872387102> i think the new "composition" i...
tbh most of it is gonna be blocked
but fuck it might as well go all out
elder trench
thats the spirit
crimson comet
but i have like 2 more projects that i still need to do
i should wake up early tomorrow
for the new stuff ima just do solid colors
i cant be fucked to do outlines anymore
ngl i think i should pull back the cliff a bit
elder trench
i think you could make it less steep. the way it looks now it looks like a sheer cliff that is huge
crimson comet
elder trench
that kind cool ngl
crimson comet
does that cliff look good rn
elder trench
it looks very cliffy
undone hare
where she goin
crimson comet
added supports
crimson comet
where she goin
shcol
elder trench
where she goin
to nandos
crimson comet
now how to tree
ok maybe
kinda nice wtf
now how do i fill the cliff
more trees?
elder trench
vegetation and stone
crimson comet
does it make sense for green to be there
its autumn after all
idk i lived in malaysia and all i know is literal hell and atlantis weather
elder trench
i live in norway so i can only speek from my experience, but here autum have evergreen mossy and general shrubbery and stuff
crimson comet
hm
time to fuck around
maybe smth like this
ima add shadows to the rocks later
looks decent already
elder trench
working on a redraw of what im working on
crimson comet
banger
elder trench
thanks, im happy with how the eyes turned out
elder trench
try a little contrast between the back trees and sky, it kinda blends in a lot
elder trench
try adding a new laer and make it a clipping mask, then you select that cliping mask as multiply
elder trench
that looks a little better
crimson comet
fuck it small neuro
elder trench
hehe cute, it even looks distinctly neuro
elder trench
crimson comet
it wont be visible unless you zoom in
good shit
what next
layering is my passion
this is gonna be hell
elder trench
make folders to manage layers
crimson comet
wdy think i was doing lmao
elder trench
lmao, then its how its supose to be. i to have lots and lots of layers
crimson comet
might as well go all out on the signature
elder trench
cute signature
crimson comet
which one do i go for
elder trench
the bottom one looks the best but the top one is easiest to read
crimson comet
i just wrote the top one
elder trench
id go for the middle one personally
crimson comet
remade the first n
harsh arch
i just wrote the top one
Middle one. There's more variation between the letters and the design is pretty dynamic
crimson comet
old n or new n
harsh arch
I'd go with the new one. It's more consistent with the design of the p
elder trench
cant think of adding anything else
elder trench
think you nailed it
elder trench
yeah, try having it in the right bottom corner besides the fps counter, dont thing its to bad if its behind the gray banner
crimson comet
yeah, try having it in the right bottom corner besides the fps counter, dont thi...
the fps counter is optional
elder trench
wary briar
do you finish your art with filters? i always but filters on mine, i use adobe photoshop Express
crimson comet
do you finish your art with filters? i always but filters on mine, i use adobe p...
wdym
wary briar
I see
I always mess with the color, the noise, the saturation, sometimes i put a Radial Blur
elder trench
maybe i need to try some filters
wary briar
Yeah filters can make a art
elder trench
elder trench
loks super nice
crimson comet
this is prob the most time i spent on an artwork
now lets see the timelapse
MEDIBANG FUCKING FROZE TRYING TO MERGE THE TIMELAPSES
LMAOOOOOO
elder trench
F
elder trench
damn that insane
elder trench
heres progression of my redraw of the thing i said myself done with earlier today
elder trench
1 min 30s?
that sounds about right
wary briar
elder trench
rip sleep, almsot vedal sleap shecdule there
wary briar
you are in the future
elder trench
didnt notice the date a day into the fute
crimson comet
what the fuck you mean this is 128mb
also why spotify is just playing my osu songs
wary briar
also why spotify is just playing my osu songs
They know
elder trench
looks cool
wary briar
elder trench
i feel like i could never do a good looking timelaps, firstly because i would forget to turn it on and because i way to messy when i draw
crimson comet
#1285285314373484575 message i neglected this thread for way too long lmao
wise stone
elder trench
i wish i could do something like this
wise stone
Progress
wary briar
Tri the goat
elder trench
indeed
wise stone
i wish i could do something like this
You can really, it just take a bit to of time.
elder trench
You can really, it just take a bit to of time.
i know but im impatient
hairties vissible yay or nay, il add the little scull pins anyway
wise stone
yay
elder trench
noted yay
worn briar
my only exposure to fine art is visiting the local national museum
a 14'x25' oil on canvas painting
viscid gust
i have to do a lot of drawing today
ive been slowly trying to catch up on missed drawings from the hurricane week
elder trench
an actual painting i want to see is whos afraid of red yellow and blue 3. its the thing that made me fall in love with art an saw deeper meaning it in
viscid gust
want to post all the pictures at once
elder trench
hurricane week?
viscid gust
i was knocked out of power for a whole week due to a hurricane
and it slowed my art down and ive been trying to catch up
elder trench
damn sounds bad, glad we dont have those her in norway
viscid gust
i have 18 drawings due right now
because im insisting on uploading all of them at once
elder trench
that a lot. but you can do it
elder trench
keep on keeping on then
wise stone
i was knocked out of power for a whole week due to a hurricane
I'm sorry for the unfortunate circumstance you are in. I hope the power comeback soon.
wise stone
an actual painting i want to see is whos afraid of red yellow and blue 3. its th...
That painting was destroyed and the current one is the replica. I haven't seen it in person, but I hope it being the replica doesn't ruin your curiosity of the painting tho.
elder trench
That painting was destroyed and the current one is the replica. I haven't seen i...
i know that why i love it, its name fits perfectly. im of the opinion that it should never have been restored but kept destroyed on display
wise stone
I see
elder trench
because there was someone who was afraid of red yellow and blue 
wise stone
And now, It's time for me to sleep. Goodnight Y'all 
elder trench
night
bleak agate
🤔
shut obsidian
cute 
viscid gust
everyone coming out of the woodworks to draw horror
bleak agate
elder trench
almost done
harsh arch
here you go
signal bobcat
ooooh I can't do that 
I guess I'm sitting back again
bleak agate
Ig i went a bit far from what food has shown as a reference
shut obsidian
Ig i went a bit far from what food has shown as a reference
oh I thought that was a separate drawing lol, still looks sick tho
wise stone
here you go
harsh arch
That's amazing.
elder trench
any obvious mistakes here
harsh arch
any obvious mistakes here
The shadow on the crotch looks random and doesn't really describe the form. You could do something like this
elder trench
i see will change it a little. thx
elder trench
what a coincidence that i saw this excact video earlier today
elder trench
very cat
viscid gust
Holy heck
cerulean mountain
crazy good wtf
glacial estuary
my ref file got corrupted and its not in the backup folder 
elder trench
rip
glacial estuary
all because i saved wrong like a dumbass
i still got the main file tho
but im kinda stuck now
elder trench
how did you save wrong
glacial estuary
i set reset on my computer, but the thing was not saved and then i saved and reset pc
elder trench
oh isee
glacial estuary
i was impatient
elder trench
thats usually how provlems hapen
glacial estuary
man this hurts
viscid gust
I’m really sorry friend
glacial estuary
any tips making this better? like the clothes or lines
elder trench
any tips making this better? like the clothes or lines
i dont know what could be added, but this is metal as fuck
glacial estuary
thanks 
elder trench
oh on the gun you should add a hammer
on the back
unless its a striker fire then dont bother, think like glock
glacial estuary
in the ref you cant see it
elder trench
oh i see. what gun is it supose to be
glacial estuary
elder trench
neat
viscid gust
Damn, that looks fucking cool
robust sleet
About time I try and shade like this. Any suggestions on how to improve it?
worn briar
gonna wait for borzoi
but for me the depth is there
lighting source is also consistent
if you want to verify that light values look right, add a hue layer and set it to zero so it's monochrome
robust sleet
The dark values does feel a bit too light
weak wave
About time I try and shade like this. Any suggestions on how to improve it?
i highly recommend this tutorial by oridays: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mc19XdEe8qg
tldr he separates the shadows into different layers that build on top of each other
proud birch
Oh i remember this im using this too but not completely, i took some aspects from it and instead made it grayscale, would recommend this video
wary briar
brittle fern
holy. amazing job on this.
proud birch
About time I try and shade like this. Any suggestions on how to improve it?
This edit is really scuffed but yeah creating clear contrast between dark and light areas could help
Do note that theres tons of ways to imrpove an art outside of this like lineart, ambient light, skin texture, construction of clothing etc but usually shadows and lighting is generally applicable most of the time
junior basin
sloooooowly hammering things together
versed bridge
👍
junior basin
got things to do(and grab some food), should be done in the next 12 hours I think
versed bridge
very nice :forsenOkay:
shut obsidian
wary briar
More Twins and Tutel
versed bridge
Nice
wise stone
got things to do(and grab some food), should be done in the next 12 hours I thin...
I should draw Anny sometime later.
viscid gust
got things to do(and grab some food), should be done in the next 12 hours I thin...
cutie!!
junior basin
I had an engineering degree before studying animation