Artist General

[worn briar]

[viscid gust]

Guys good news
I got the OK to add the notable tag to this forum.
We are officially NOTABLE!

[jolly holly]

[steady abyss]

[worn briar]

[viscid bobcat]

[steady abyss]

small update to the cube study

[viscid gust]

Ive been thinking about this for a while. The forum was made for my neuro a day project while promoting art.

But this has kind of become a sort of Artist General Chat, with my daily neuros kinda fading into the background noise.

The poll isnt deciding anything, I just want to gauge opinions

[worn briar]

well I do still want to see what you'll be capable of at the end of the year

[steady abyss]

i think artist general would be good, as i feel like alot of people see neuro a day and are scared away by it

[tidal cosmos]

i think A first and then after this year then go over to B

thoughts?

[viscid gust]

That was the original idea

[viscid gust]

hey im pushing ack my deadline like an hour or two for the daily neuro drawing
got distracted with a stream and cooking

[tidal cosmos]

keep cooking

both art and food

[viscid gust]

[tidal cosmos]

https://fxtwitter.com/asayris_art/status/1780223665231044910

[viscid gust]

Oh that reminds me! I figured how to get past the pin limit in the forum for references
Make a post and bunch a bunch of good links together in it (label them) and I will pin it as "[Blank]'s art references"

You can then just update that post until you run out of space, then my table of contents just gets a second link to your next bundle of links

[tidal cosmos]

[viscid gust]

Heir cosplay!

Something I wanted to redraw for like almost 2 months. Mostly just a doodle, but like I say, you gotta put something on a canvas every day if you hope to improve!

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(April 17th) The Neuro a Day Project

Could have put a LITTLE more detail on the eyes, but I'm a teensy bit tired tonight

[viscid bobcat]

Don't worry for that, looks good

[steady abyss]

nice

[steady abyss]

perspective work is hard

[viscid gust]

Box Chan kinda cute

[steady abyss]

i like want to do an illustration but i have no idea how to make an original character, i like dont know how to make them feel unique

[viscid gust]

I actually make my characters piecemeal. Start with skin tone, then look for hairstyles I like, eye color, hair color, and then go for clothes, starting with a hat maybe, glasses perhaps, then moving down

Once’s it’s all done I make a second pass to make sure it looks coordinated, maybe choose good colors that work with each other

Don’t be afraid to Google clothing! There’s nothing creatively bankrupt of stealing a look or a part of a look you find on Google images!

[steady abyss]

i think its just the whole idea of the person that is hard for me, i dont know how to get out of my own head an into one of a non existent person, how would they dress, why would they dress that way etc

[viscid gust]

It’s always hard. Personality can dictate fashion oftentimes.

https://imgur.com/a/KaFGvkk
https://imgur.com/a/BcK4ZEV
heres the refs I made for two of my characters in the past. I’ve shared it before but it’s probably good to do so now

[steady abyss]

the only thing i know is i want them to have circular glasses

but

i just cant envision anything else

[viscid gust]

It takes time to make OCs. I use my tabletop games to help guide me a bit. Try to make someone that fits a setting, and all

[signal bobcat]

pay attention on the character's generation too to lessen your detail.. like if it's a dynasty warrior, then it should focus on that design era only

[viscid gust]

Exactly.

[viscid gust]

Note how when all is said and done when you put together your refs, to make them fit together. Like here’s my characters after they were finished.

(I didn’t draw this god I wish I was this good.)

Oh here’s another example of my OC’s Iris

Focus parts of outfits until things look good together. That’s all I can really say. I spent a lot of time skimming Google images finding exactly what I wanted for her

[signal bobcat]

my birb maid knight

[viscid gust]

In the end it’s fine to not be married to a design. If you don’t end up liking it, or can’t fix it with small changes then it’s encouraged to totally change the design.

[viscid gust]

Cuuuttee

[steady abyss]

ive just been brainstorming hair and so far idk how i like it

[viscid gust]

In my opinion, hair is one of the hardest parts

[worn briar]

i didn't pay attention too much to the skeleton

just having a vague impression of where everything should go helps though

[viscid gust]

Perspective is weird

Yours isn’t, I just mean in general

[steady abyss]

100%

ive just been doing perspective cubes the last couple days

[signal bobcat]

not much foreshortening is happening tho

[steady abyss]

i tried to foreshorten on this one

a little

[signal bobcat]

keep it up and you'll figure it out

[steady abyss]

is it that bad lmfao?

[signal bobcat]

no

[steady abyss]

i didn't use guidelines and it would probably help if i did but i have a stroke trying to draw them

[signal bobcat]

it's looking good ngl

[steady abyss]

i just realized i drew the second half of the right arm inverted

now its going to pain me until i fix it

[viscid gust]

Gonna be late today with my art
todays my tabletop game (as long as nobody drops out today )

[worn briar]

I suppose that depends on how extreme the perspective is

[steady abyss]

more extreme perspective is just more appealing to my eyes

idk

it just looks crazy

[worn briar]

ah now that's going into image projection and camera stuff

[steady abyss]

yeah idk sometimes my brain is like oh yeah easy and i can just draw in perspective without guide lines and sometimes it just like dies and cant process it at all

[worn briar]

i mean if you can visualize fisheye distortion and six point perspective then by all means

that's actual king shit

[steady abyss]

i think doing this piece helped me alot with perspective

its kinda bad if you look at the buildings

but i learned alot from it

[worn briar]

goes hard

[steady abyss]

w

[steady abyss]

it has begun

[molten sluice]

I struggle with anatomy but hey practice makes perfect

[viscid gust]

Just gotta KEEP drawing!

[signal bobcat]

dw I'll spare you some of my time to help you

wanna tribute more on helping others more than focusing on my sketches

[steady abyss]

heres a more updated photo, hope its fine not censored or anything, gotta drive to work so i dont got the time

its pretty scuffed rn

[signal bobcat]

I'll get the red pen for your guidance after my slumber for now do what you can do..

i really wish this was made digitally so we could move head to bust a little to the right

[signal bobcat]

you can check this out for a better reference
https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1203353581667881030

since it has the same pose

[viscid gust]

Ill consider the results of the poll

[molten sluice]

Ofc

[steady abyss]

im like miserable bad at digitally drawing lol

if you want me to move anything just show me where and il redraw it

[vernal sparrow]

A friend of mine is drawing this, wondering if anyone here could help him see if there is any errors on it

[vapid root]

Your old pfp. Looked cool.

[signal bobcat]

right arm looked like it's suppose to make a bit of perspective resizing the shoulder should fix it.. maybe i wanna see this finished first

I'll be back with my red pen of these

[vernal sparrow]

This is how it looks now, also my friend was asking what you meant specifically with the shoulder

[viscid gust]

Finished my tabletop game today but Im real dang fatigued
you think I can get away with a shitty doodle of neuro today instead of a proper drawing

[tidal cosmos]

Oh deltarune

[signal bobcat]

oh I'll be right back when I'm back home xd

so i can point out the thing

[viscid gust]

Had a nightmare.

Am sleepy, can only get this done today. Sorry lol.

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(April 18th) The Neuro a Day Project

[worn briar]

[signal bobcat]

honestly this a good art so I'm too scared to make a mess on it

[vernal sparrow]

you can do it, don't worry, my friend also appreciates feedback

he also wants to improve after all

[steady abyss]

oh yeah what did you mean by this

[vernal sparrow]

also here is his finished version, my friend still wants to see how you would of done it, thanks

[steady abyss]

il try to fix it

[signal bobcat]

mhmm lemme see what i can do

[signal bobcat]

the chest was too high xd you can check this short vid where chest is suppose to go.. we still need anatomy when doing perspective
https://youtube.com/shorts/ys3QsLh1U0g?si=J4-S8dnycbKzf6au

[steady abyss]

im awful with anatomy haha

[signal bobcat]

well same here

[steady abyss]

ah yeah i see what i did wrong

[signal bobcat]

and a bonus "how to head" lmao i like this method a lot

[signal bobcat]

oh and don't bend too much i can feel the back pain on this pose

the spine curve on that middle portion is real

[steady abyss]

uh so basically canonically a hunchback due to this pose

[signal bobcat]

too real

[steady abyss]

is my head drawn wrong aswell?

[signal bobcat]

hmm not really, but you'll encounter some issue on the face in the future with the being squished on yours

the thing i did on the head (in my experience) feels better, i do use that method before tho

[steady abyss]

i was trying to draw it in perspective but it does kinda look squished huh

[signal bobcat]

let's say we follow the current head

oh i actually ignored you guideline woops

[steady abyss]

i was about to say i had some lines there lol

[signal bobcat]

ok let's say I did follow the guideline

[steady abyss]

i kinda just drew it and didn't really measure it lol

its kinda funny but

its probably fine

[signal bobcat]

tho it'll be a hard to figure out where the left chin.. that's why I use this method

so i can fix the eyes

[signal bobcat]

yeaaa no worries, there's no reason to spend a lot of time on single art

draw, figure out what's wrong, next..

[steady abyss]

i spend way too much time anyway

[signal bobcat]

honestly it's really hard to spot the issue on this head

but no it's the forehead

and cheek

[signal bobcat]

if we raise the cheek, it'll help you give of a little perspective

[signal bobcat]

yea you might wanna remove more cheek fats on that one

[steady abyss]

the lines i drew really fast are minda wrong but its okay

[steady abyss]

it just looks flat then though

[signal bobcat]

oh hold on

[signal bobcat]

for some reason it still fits lmao

is this the camera or something

[steady abyss]

more accurate lines i think

[signal bobcat]

[signal bobcat]

cute

actually imma wait for you to finish this first

[steady abyss]

i kinda wish i did this one digitally now yeah

i realized im not gonna be able to super detail the eyes on paper very well

because my sketchbook isnt that big

[signal bobcat]

some artist still prefers paper than digital tho.. so it's just skills in the end

[steady abyss]

yeah i just don't understand digital

because i want it to work like pencil and be darker the more i press down but i dont want it to be like semi-transparent when drawing a line

i also dont want it do drastically get wider or smaller while pressing down

it screws me up

[signal bobcat]

[worn briar]

in any case, the skill is transferable

[signal bobcat]

it'll take some time tho

had issue when i switched mediums

got back on track a bit

[steady abyss]

yeah idk my lines arent the best so i chicken scratch until it looks smooth for the lineart and it just doesn't work digitally

so it takes me like three times as long

because its just alot of undoing

[signal bobcat]

i mean like i said it'll take some time to switch medium

you can't tell a tree to grow faster by command..

[worn briar]

bone meal

jk

let me tell you, the people who draw traditionally are insane but in a good way

[signal bobcat]

uhh idk if we can still call it "traditionally" after witnessing AI generated arts.. drawing anything by humans are now considered traditional

at least what i think

[worn briar]

i mean specifically the artists that draw on physical media

pen and paper

[signal bobcat]

mhmm

[worn briar]

you can't undo on paper

i mean sure you can use pencils

or layer with animation cel paper

[signal bobcat]

i do wanna learn how to paint cuz that's one thing you can go crazy on color theory

i haven't given up on studying color theory

[worn briar]

honestly i think i can make do with grinding shadow lighting and rendering studies and make do with a base color underneath

you get free color gradients with that

[signal bobcat]

yea no shit this guy still surprises me that he can animate this
https://youtube.com/shorts/udm1TWbDlXQ?si=Q1DMTJXUvUGKIGVu

[worn briar]

holy fuck

[steady abyss]

ig im insane, but i already knew that so its not a shock

[worn briar]

takes massive cojones

[steady abyss]

i love this guy

[worn briar]

my shaky ass hands couldn't

[steady abyss]

for me this is why i have to use paper lol

[worn briar]

the pen stabilization helps when I'm inking out

but i turn it off when drafting

[signal bobcat]

zooming in too much on your digital art will also mess up your lineart, it's better to practice less zoomies

[steady abyss]

thats another problem i have

i zoom in way too far

until i can see the pixels

[signal bobcat]

yeah it's not a good idea

[signal bobcat]

this one is my favorite but again it's freaking paper and pen
https://youtube.com/shorts/Bk6GO3loGGM?si=19gq3f5p71fIhdZP

[steady abyss]

wawa and wuwa are a w

[steady abyss]

tried to fix it using your body reference, the right arm looks funny idk

ive redrawn it so many times

[weak wave]

It looks to me like the right shoulder is out a bit to far, most of it should be covered by the head

[steady abyss]

actually yeah now that you mention it, i see it, thanks 🙏

[signal bobcat]

it too wide too

I'll be back for another uhh

lemme check

in the next 12 hours

[viscid gust]

[viscid gust]

Side by side

I started late so i decided to just do some sketch practice. It kinda sucks tbh. My art doesnt look good when im not particularly inspired.

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(April 19th) The Neuro a Day Project

also i feel like im losing my touch on head shape
idk why

[flat gull]

the second neuro's face kind of looks like what the uh
Vietnamese guy (I forgot their name ok ) would typically draw

[flat gull]

oh yeah
danh khoa

[viscid gust]

danhkhoanguyen?

[flat gull]

yes

[viscid gust]

nah his art is a lot better than mine

he knows what hes doing

[flat gull]

yeah he said he made that art of Neuro hugging Nico in about five minutes
like what the fuck
he's probably exaggerating a bit but even then

[viscid gust]

his skills are insane

I kneel

[flat gull]

yes and I kneel to every other artist here, my best drawing is (ironically) this
I know I'll improve given time but still

[worn briar]

i try to alternate between master studies and blind studies

[steady abyss]

i like your funny words magic man

[worn briar]

i try to alternate between [studying by copying someone else's style] and [trying to do that without looking at a reference]

[signal bobcat]

blind method is surprisingly effective actually.. i recommend

[worn briar]

it's normally when i do blind studies that something clicks for me

[robust sleet]

Hi! I just found out about this forum post, I usually post in the art channel and since I'm currently learning how to draw folds. It would be nice to hear suggestions on how to improve them (specifically the arms one)

This image was used as a reference

[tidal cosmos]

Color theory (might watch later that's why I'm replying cuz I'm too lazy to scroll up kek)

[worn briar]

god folds are insane

let me check if i have resources for folds and creases

[tidal cosmos]

This might help, https://fxtwitter.com/asayris_art/status/1777738501309510042

[worn briar]

try this

https://medibangpaint.com/en/use/2022/10/how-to-draw-wrinkles-on-clothes/

https://www.clipstudio.net/how-to-draw/archives/157926

they're forum posts on medibang and csp so you know it's legit

or you could cheat and use marvelous designer and blender

and simulate cloth physics

[robust sleet]

Thanks for the suggestion everyone

[viscid gust]

Welcome to the artist forum! If you have more questions or need help figuring something out with your art we would love to help!

[tidal cosmos]

https://youtube.com/shorts/F_PldnrjV9U?si=CYjMl0AIWiDm73y5

[viscid gust]

Doodles I don't totally hate?? Inconceivable! (until today)

Main one inspired by pb's Harrison temple style. I think I wanna try adapting parts of it into a cute less detailed style for me.

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#Artist-General (& Daily Neuro Day: 4/20)

Thread name has been updated, as per consensus

Ive pinned the starting post here to explain what this forum is for. Ive added 2 new lines to it

Actually its just that last line, though I did change some of the words since there was grammar mistakes

[viscid gust]

on this topic, I dont like this name. The first half I mean. Can I get some ideas what this can be changed to?

[worn briar]

it's straightforward

but i do get the desire to make it something catchy

[viscid gust]

Artist Thread (& Daily Neuro Day: 4/20)

less catchy more to the point

but if you have anything better let me know

[viscid bobcat]

The name Is fine

[tawdry leaf]

Art Club: (Daily Neuro Day: 4/20 )

Though Artist Thread is fine, it's growing into a community, and using "club" could make it sound more community-like.

[viscid gust]

its really nice to see it continue to grow

[viscid gust]

We have now dipped below 60 users in this thread 😔

[open flint]

we'll get em back up

[viscid gust]

we need to reach out to more artists and aspiring artists

yknow
without it being forced into conversations

[flat gull]

yeahhh I think this one kinda sucks tbh
also what consensus :LULE:

[viscid gust]

this one

[flat gull]

would probably be better if the parts swapped positions and was more like
Neuro a Day: 4/20 (Artist Thread)

[viscid gust]

If I did that there wouldnt hav ebeen a point to changing the name at all

this thread has evolved, and is hardly about my own personal journey as an artist anymore

[flat gull]

ah
though I still don't like "daily neuro day" tbh
doesn't sound right
so you can keep "Artist Thread" in front and instead have
"Artist Thread (& Neuro a Day: 4/20)"

[robust sleet]

I love that guy's videos so much. Its so short but still so useful

[worn briar]

Drawthread

[viscid gust]

why do i dislike that
I feel like im missing something

[viscid gust]

CUTE

[robust sleet]

Very Cute indeed

[viscid gust]

WIP. Rest and Relax.

Okay so the first time Im explicitly saying im gonna be continuing a piece the next day. I wanted to pace myself on this one so I can ask for help to resolve minor issues I was having. Ive not drawn vedal before and a lot of stuff was giving me trouble (to be fair work on him was like 40 minutes of the total time)

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Artist Thread (& Daily Neuro Day: 4/21)

not that anyone would pick up on it, but im using a screenshot from Avatar as a reference.

[robust sleet]

tbh, i think you should use a darker colour for your text, I can barely read them

[viscid gust]

its literally 255 black

[robust sleet]

the drawing right?

[viscid gust]

the drawing is too
I suppose they are a bit brighter because of the preassure of my pen

[robust sleet]

oh you use pressure pen, thats so cool

nvm then

[viscid gust]

im a bit winded since i just spent like 2 hours drawing.
Ill probably ask for advice or whatever later
but fro right now I need to figure how I want to do the hair
I dont nrmally do short hair, and never at this angle

I dont like how it looks either so im probably gonna redraw the hair fully

i also need to make veddal's head smaller, in relation to his body
it ended up too big

[robust sleet]

I see, well a tip that i could probably give is to draw the head shape before the hair first. And to make the hair thicker than the head shape

This is to avoid the squished look on your characters head

[steady abyss]

i was gonna draw today but caught up in making some funny game assets

[viscid gust]

[steady abyss]

screw it i drew aswell haha, not sure i like how she turned out but it was good practice

[viscid gust]

all practice is good practice

[open flint]

Head practice

This playlist is so good for anatomy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSf0UYDi9sA&list=PL3MxkMIAeuf36McqpjrpzvttMkaYFAIP_

[signal bobcat]

[wispy storm]

Test
|| ||

[signal bobcat]

i thought this was me at first glance lol

[worn briar]

the pelvic girdle is probably the most difficult thing to draw for me

[harsh arch]

The pelvis haunts me in my nightmares

[open flint]

more face stuff

[steady abyss]

Ha, i had no idea what i was drawing tbh

i dont really like the eyes i drew

im kinda just bad at them

[viscid gust]

hey would you guys like a communal Magma to screw around with? I was thinking of making a monthly one.
Id just do a whiteboard but I cannot do that in forums.

[steady abyss]

whats that

[viscid gust]

Its an online drawing collaboration program (ran inside of your browser)
Its pretty good as a learning and collaboration tool.

Supports my tablet's pressure settings on the pen too, so thats cool

Think of the whiteboard activity for Discord, but a lot more professional for digital artists

[tawdry leaf]

Sounds cool, but worry about the neurotics/

[fierce oasis]

if we can’t do one in forums why not like make an art discussion channel?

i think that could be pretty cool

would y’all guys use it?

upgrade from forum to like a channel you can access with the art role or something

then artists could like ask for help or advice and post wips and discuss art

[viscid gust]

Thats a very good idea. The problem is that I need enough interested parties in a proper Art-Discussion channel before it can be added.

I would love to hear if anyone else would like one

[tawdry leaf]

The forum here has grown as big as other posts, but do agree it may not need a channel. Considering other communities in the forum are just as big and active.

[viscid gust]

Im not a fan of the art discussion being stuck in this forum, if I'm gonna be real honest.
Most people dont even check the forums.

A chat thats unlocked via having the Artist Role feels like a fresh idea.

[fierce oasis]

3333

[viscid gust]

[fierce oasis]

Yea, the existence of this forum basically shows that there’d be use for it, I think

[viscid gust]

That was one of the intentions of the thread
To gauge interest in an artist-discussion chat

Clearly since there has been a lot of interaction, that theres interest.
It just needs to be voiced.

Would be useful to get a lot of the bigger artists on board too (the ones who arent here in the forum) but I dont want to ask them and sound desperate.

[fierce oasis]

well ig we can just see what the people here think and if there’s a positive reaction we can make a forum post asking for the channel

[steady abyss]

i would

[viscid gust]

Feel free to poke around with people who arent here/arent here usually if they are interested in it. I dont want to be the one spearheading that when Im in a position of power. It feels weird to do that

[fierce oasis]

I’m personally all for it, i’ve wanted this since before the fanart channel was made into a forum

[tawdry leaf]

Then go for it. what's the worse that can happen? a No? and I'm sure other distinguished artists would have no problem voicing their opinoins.

[steady abyss]

90% of my messages are in here hah

[viscid gust]

Redston if this is gonna happen you or someone else here is gonna have to talk to artists outside the forum on their opinions.
We are a very small sample size

[tawdry leaf]

@ various people j/k

[fierce oasis]

well, if a no happens, it basically kills the possibility of it happening ever. Which is why I haven’t done it. Gotta wait till there’s enough interest

[viscid gust]

the problem is is that I'm sure theres plenty of interest, its just people dont ask for it.

[tawdry leaf]

get interests by inviting. General chat posts are cool and all but if you want opinions from specific individuals, ask directly.

"if you build it, they will come"

[viscid gust]

Sign my petition

[tawdry leaf]

where's the petition at?

[viscid gust]

no there isnt one
not yet anyways
it was a funny joke

[tawdry leaf]

Well make one

You're the Queen of General

[viscid gust]

again, it feels more wrong for me to head the charge for something like this when im in an actual position of power

I need the users to come together on this one

[tawdry leaf]

People are placed in corporate positions for the purpose of progressing things forward. You're more than a stuart, but a member of this community that has earned recognition.

Your ideas for the community deserve a place to be heard and the board will listen.

[viscid gust]

the moderators are well aware I want this channel
so I laid the requirements of getting started with such a channel being made
Its more in your hands, not mine

[tawdry leaf]

Then make that petition. Get a sample size.

When you are in the right, the facts will back you up.

As a mod, do you have analytics at all in this thread?

[viscid gust]

I do not unfortunately.
I was chatting earlier about it with someone else and I made mention while we have currently 59 people in the thread, 7-9 people are consistently interacting with it.
Its a bit lower in the past week though.

But again Im super convinced this is due in part with plenty of artists and would-be artists dont even know this thread exists.

an actual channel would be a lot better

[fierce oasis]

7 people? That’s twice the amount of people in #gaming

[tawdry leaf]

there seems to be more movement here than the gaming channel or gymbag-general. So despite 7-9 people, that there is a dedicated fan base

[fierce oasis]

also this is only a forum

[viscid gust]

So whats expected of you guys is that if you want this, speak to other artists to see if they are on board, and then when we have confirmation that there will actually be activity in such a text chat you either talk to higher the mods (the not trial one) directly, or open a modmail to open a dialogue.

[robust sleet]

speaking of the magma one, yea we should definitely do it

[viscid gust]

[viscid gust]

Ill get it set up within the next few hours when im not busy

[robust sleet]

I have college in the next few hours though so i wont be able to, maybe we'll all decide on the time later together

[viscid gust]

The magma will stay open after its set up! You dont have to worry about missing it!

[steady abyss]

true

[robust sleet]

OH

[steady abyss]

[steady abyss]

also gonna be honest, had no idea gaming existed

[viscid gust]

oft forgotten gaming chat
since we talk about games in genchat too

[steady abyss]

ye

[viscid gust]

gaming serves its purpose though, since if it was removed, the discussions would bleed into genchat and be disruptive

[steady abyss]

yeah

[viscid gust]

Cute!

[open flint]

some more head practice. moving onto neck/torso soon

[viscid gust]

oooohhh

[viscid gust]

WIP 2

Okay so this is technically cheating on my daily neuros, but also technically speaking I DID draw neuro today. Also technucally I didnt set any rules about this. I just wanna finish this one lmao.

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Artist Thread (& Daily Neuro Day: 4/22)

https://magma.com/d/3Ll3dLt0Ow
here you go chat.
Have fun!

Let me know if theres any problems

or if we run out of space

[fierce oasis]

ngl the way the bow is drawn made me think you drew neuro with a huge rack for a sec

[viscid gust]

now im gonna have to redraw it

I just like big bow

[fierce oasis]

you love big “bows” yes

[tidal cosmos]

Lmao

[signal bobcat]

okay i just woke up and heard about magma, art forum to channel..

i wanna share my thoughts about having art channel back again

[viscid gust]

go right ahead

[signal bobcat]

there was a reason why #1095941852068331560 exist and replaced #fan-art #pixel-art-general , cuz it makes interaction with the artist's artwork easier, i still wanna continue this forum as an open door for everyone who wanna learn how to draw and help them when they need one

but idk if it'll have an impact when it transformed into a channel

[viscid gust]

The point of the new channel would not be to replace #1095941852068331560 though
it would be for posting WIP's and getting help from other artists

[fierce oasis]

yea, an art discussion channel basically

[viscid gust]

the problem with this forum is that most people dont even know it exists.
A channel specifically for artists, unlocked with the role would be novel and interesting.

I forsee it getting a lot more traffic too

[fierce oasis]

Ya can post like wips and stuff or if you need advice or guidance and then other artists could help

basically the clipper channel (I assume, never been there) but for artists

[fierce oasis]

^

discussion started there btw

[signal bobcat]

we have wip tags in art tho and yeah i do concern our forum being buried away from tons of new posts.. changing the title to (Open Critique and Study) would not make an impact too I just wanna avoid people with bad mentality to art, like after witnessing other's work, they'd just go "I don't wanna draw anymore.." kind of a behavior that's why i was fond of seeing this forum exist

[viscid gust]

it would be no different from this forum though
it would just be more inclusive

[signal bobcat]

[viscid gust]

One of my big drives I had when making this thread was testing the waters to see if a #1095941852068331560ist-discussion channel would be well recieved

like a proper one

and it feels like a resounding "Yes" considering how much interaction this (and the last) thread got

[signal bobcat]

if someone decided to bully someone's art practice saying "you're no point of improving.." I'd be so offensive and protect those people like they're my child or something

they're not welcome in art channel

[fierce oasis]

I’m pretty sure that’d earn a quick mute

[viscid gust]

They would gatekeeping

Rule 2.3 exists for a reason

[robust sleet]

I actually fully support the idea that this forum should become its own channel mainly because people in the fan art channel very rarely ever help with peoples art since people mostly just scroll through the arts

[viscid gust]

The point would be to grow a community of people who WANT to draw, and WANT to learn

[signal bobcat]

pinning this forum sounds uhhh hmm

[viscid gust]

100% this

[viscid gust]

pinning this forum would do nothing
we have botht he notable tag and are often on the top of the #1095948590947500113 chat anyways due to activity]

[signal bobcat]

i guess if everyone agrees to see this as a channel.. I'd be happy to see it

[viscid gust]

I dont mean to make it feel like I bullied you into changing your idea. I apologize if I did.

[signal bobcat]

nah not really

[robust sleet]

Wait what if we make a pinned post in fanart promoting this forum with the link

[signal bobcat]

my concern is the people who lurks in our channel

and their interest of ruining others than help

[viscid gust]

I really doubt theres many of those people.

If we had a new text channel, I would want to set up important rules for interacting with it

[signal bobcat]

my worries will still be there as someone who's willing to help everyone who's interested of learning how to draw

[viscid gust]

Isnt that their prerogative though?

Theres gonna often be people who arent good at art who try teaching other people things
but like
its a public channel
they would get called out

[signal bobcat]

[viscid gust]

Like I want to hear opinions
To get this off the ground I dont just need people interested, I need to hear what you want to see in a chat like this.

(needing people interested, however, is priority number 1)

[fierce oasis]

I mean, I already help multiple people in dms with art. (As in they dm me and ask for criticism, if anything looks off or ideas) so with the channel that would just be in public and the advice would be useable by everyone

[signal bobcat]

i should really stop worrying too much, what is even happening to me nowadays

[viscid gust]

100% agreed

[robust sleet]

The way i found this forum was literally just blind luck(decided to press on forum one day cause why not). Having it as a channel would definitely get more people to join

[viscid gust]

Im glad people have been able to find it at all
Visibility kinda sucks with forum posts

it was worse for the first month since that was using an #1095941852068331560 forum

and those by default dont update to the top of the list when there is engagement on a post

[robust sleet]

Btw im sorry if this is unrelated but, why did they decide to remove the distinguished artist role and replaced it with an artist role that everyone could use?

[viscid gust]

I dont have an immediate answer
it was answered in a forum, ill go see if i can find that

https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1220146225131687936
this thread MIGHT answer your question??

[robust sleet]

I gotta say, magma is so much more better than whiteboard .

[signal bobcat]

well yeah

i got used to the shortcuts now

can we like pin the magma link?

oh it's already pinned lmao

[tidal cosmos]

True magma good

[worn briar]

i had to break-in the models a little bit, but here we are

sorry for the shitty grain, i have an old XR and this is the best way for me to get low FOV shots

[flat gull]

this shouldn't have taken 11 minutes, I need to save neuro's colors

it's literally just a meme edit

[worn briar]

aw thats so sweet she's delivering me an expensive missile

[flat gull]

quick edit because I realized the hair didn't look right

[jolly holly]

https://tenor.com/view/community-ken-jeong-ben-chang-cant-see-small-gif-5154350

[flat gull]

very true

[signal bobcat]

[signal bobcat]

i gotta say, this is useful.. it won't help you understand anatomy tho

(I brag a lot about anatomy but i struggled about it too lol)

[worn briar]

nah this is just for reference poses

im far far away from wrapping my head around anatomy

plus, you can draw anatomy and master it all you want, but if you suck at drawing clothes and are bad at rendering/shading/lighting then you're only halfway there

[steady abyss]

i dont think ive ever seen you brag bout it

i struggle with anatomy hard though

[signal bobcat]

I'd rather study clothes than anatomy

[worn briar]

yeah see you get me

but the allure of drawing lewd is kinda strong isn't it

[tidal cosmos]

[signal bobcat]

[worn briar]

bah

[steady abyss]

real crime being committed here

[worn briar]

it's perfectly reasonable

plus it's chromium under the hood anyway

[steady abyss]

i call treason

[worn briar]

[steady abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/democracy-officers-traitor-freedom-camp-gif-16727483111821505126

[worn briar]

nuh uh

[viscid gust]

Did my daily neuro in the Magma today to test it out a bit.
I hope more people end up using it

[viscid gust]

Amazing

I love your choice in colors when you draw
shading too
its really neat looking\

Nya!

Didnt want to work on my other drawing today, so instead did a little bit of a test drive in Magma with a sketch. Honestly? Turned out kinda nice!

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In all honesty Magma feels really good to use. I kinda like it a lot

[weak wave]

Woo cat neuro

I can’t believe we basically drew the same thing

Did some drawing again after slacking for a bit

[viscid gust]

cuuutteee

[viscid gust]

anyone wanna educate me on how to do the kitty claws pose hands properly?
I was flying blind when I drew this, and I dont like how it turned out

[harsh arch]

As in, how to draw the forms or how to visualize the pose as a whole?

[viscid gust]

mostly just the hands portion
Im unable to visualize how the fingers bend while still looking good

[signal bobcat]

probably the first step is to understand anatomy but boxes and cylinders on the other hand can do that too.. aNd tHeN wE hAvE aNaToMy

[viscid gust]

Im kinda of a learner by seeing kinda gal
If I had ref images I could learn better

[steady abyss]

idk i probably would have done something like that but this is a really bad rough draft with a mouse so don't mind it being terrible

[viscid gust]

[steady abyss]

i was too lazy to get my drawing tablet and software set up

so you got the MS paint edition

[signal bobcat]

by understanding how many sticks we have in each fingers and how much we can bend it, you can even use your own hand as your reference cuz I don't trust google anymore when AI generated existed

[steady abyss]

i very badly need to do a

"what makes stuff look good study"

because my faces are awful

and so is everything else

but face especially

[signal bobcat]

@weak wave show us the way ur better than me

[signal bobcat]

probably my fastest method is "Study other artist's artstyle"

[viscid gust]

You get a lot less AI art when you append "-AI" to your search, without the quotes

[signal bobcat]

I should use that

[viscid gust]

Artist Thread (& Daily Neuro Day: 4/23)

almost forgot to update the day

lmao

[signal bobcat]

and i wish i did this cuz holy shit I butchered myself real bad

[viscid gust]

I often study yours, since I really like how you draw stuff

[signal bobcat]

that means i need to get better asap

[steady abyss]

i just cant bring myself to do it

idk why

[signal bobcat]

you need a bit of ass-piration..

[steady abyss]

probably

[signal bobcat]

yes..

[weak wave]

A good way to draw believable hands in a simplified style is understand the 3d shapes of the hand and then knowing where to emphasize the show those forms once you erase the guide lines

Uhh how do I explain this hmm

[signal bobcat]

[weak wave]

Lemme draw a diagram lol this might take a bit

[signal bobcat]

take the time you need

[weak wave]

Ok like once you have the shape of a hand there are important lines to add to show the 3d shape of the hand

Or else it looks flat

However if you add too many of these lines it doesn’t look realistic

So it’s a balance

A hack I do if I want to draw from imagination is to just memorize how a like 4-5 hand look at certain angles and just keep on reusing them

[steady abyss]

i tried simplifying a hand on this and made it way more confusing somehow

[weak wave]

Yeah hands are hard 🥲 so many forms at different angles

It doesn’t have to be exact tho as long as you show it’s 3d

I like this video for hands https://youtu.be/H-AvqQtRH8g?si=8HKH0PffHT72ZSS2

[steady abyss]

like i find 3d easier to visualize because i mainly do 3d modeling and texturing

[harsh arch]

Here's a shorthand explanation of how i would approach this

[weak wave]

Ooo those hands are noice

[harsh arch]

Thank you. It's rougher than I'd like, but It gets the message across, hopefully

[steady abyss]

better than any hands ive ever done ha

of course when im finally in the mood to draw my sketchbook and pencils are in my car

[signal bobcat]

[viscid gust]

oh wow that helps out a lot actually

I didnt even think of having the hands at that angle :o

Ive gotten a lot better at open hands these past 2 months
hands in odd angles and clenched fists (or poses like this) are still rather new to me

I suppose this is the problem to the method of attempting to broadly learning art. Though it might just be more indicative that I've only been drawing, like, at all, for less than 4 full months

[signal bobcat]

when referencing

[steady abyss]

i was kinda trying to convey it in mine but its kinda just a rectangle haha

decided to do some eye stuff

since i forgot my sketchbook and stuff in my car pen and notebook paper had to do

[viscid gust]

Ohh creepy

[worn briar]

try not to get too bogged down in theory

sometimes i go on a weeks long study and then actually forget to draw

[viscid gust]

I like just drawing, I tend to learn rather well if I just DO things. No guides, no videos, just make a messy sketch with a pose reference, and then line worker over that after. Y’know?

[worn briar]

that works too

[viscid gust]

I’m going to have to eventually learn things properly one day probably, but it’s going to challenge my entire way that I do things.

[signal bobcat]

don't let procrastination win tho, if you wanna learn, just start already..

[worn briar]

think of it as an opportunity for growth

[viscid gust]

There is also that feeling of learning from a different artist through guides means that I’m not really drawing with my own style. I’m being directly told how to draw. Very restrictive freedom.

I don’t think that I would improve particularly much if I used guides. Honestly, I think I’d probably hate drawing.

[worn briar]

fair enough

[signal bobcat]

[weak wave]

Don’t let that stop you from using guides tho, the best way to find your style is copying other artists and picking out the things you like

[worn briar]

or, if you don't want to copy other artists (which is a perfectly normal approach) you can do anatomy studies on human bodies

which is how the old masters did it

might take a bit more work but I'd wager it would give you a much better mental map

[signal bobcat]

Loomis' study is so outdated for everyone nowadays

that's why they keep looking for the most simplest method there is

[worn briar]

to be fair loomis is for realistic human proportions and won't really work for cartoonish designs until you're at the level of mastery where you can ignore the rules you learned

[harsh arch]

I suggest working on fundamentals ("fundamentals" are usually very vague and depend on who you ask, but there are free, very complete courses that will give you a direction, like Drawabox and Ctrl+paint ) before worrying a lot about style. A drawing style is a set of choices as to how you're going to represent real life things, so you'll need a notion of how they work. As you study these skills and other artists, you pick and apply decisions that you like

[steady abyss]

ye i just drew it for fun mainly

[signal bobcat]

my opinion with drawabox is uhh it's not beginner friendly.. unless if you are too serious at learning how to draw but that defeats the whole point of having fun when drawing

like when you chose art as your career, then you might wanna spend time like drawabox

[harsh arch]

Yeah, the course describes itself as having a rough program and even emphasizes the importance of dedicating half of your time for fun. It might not be the best option if you only want to take it easy

[signal bobcat]

[worn briar]

tbf boxes might be simple but drawing them imparts a lot of insight on perspective

shit, just drawing ovals in boxes helps

[signal bobcat]

i don't use boxes anymore

but the purpose of boxes is to guide you where the portion of a body is facing

[worn briar]

a skewed rounded triangle works in most cases

[harsh arch]

Since They're just sets parallel lines, They're the simplest way of illustrating how perspective works with a 3D object

[signal bobcat]

[harsh arch]

I hate it. But it's the method with which I learned to draw heads and I can't stop referring to it every time

[worn briar]

it's outdated, sure, but that doesn't make it wrong

hey i might be larping as an artist but two years of technical drafting and another year of grinding loomis probably accounts for something right

[signal bobcat]

I didn't say it's wrong, it's just not applicable for everyone's attention span..

besides I tried loomis

[worn briar]

fuck it i gotta start over

lfg chat

[robust sleet]

Did a quick doodle of Neuro today. And a derp face one

[wary briar]

frick you hands

[signal bobcat]

wooo

[signal bobcat]

more daily neuro post

imma share this as a progress cuz i wanna fix my reference sheet

i followed that one tutorial i found a long time ago, from top to bottom.. and holy shit it's so cool

a good tutorial.. [repost]
https://youtu.be/JfxyxFuKgeU?si=2lwfS-CCx29g-0Cl

[robust sleet]

I cant understand japanese so...

Oh wait nvm, the caption is in english

[signal bobcat]

English sub we have dw

[steady abyss]

literally

[ruby tide]

Being in this community has inspired me to pick up the pen (digital) again, first time in years. Sketched a little storyboard.

[signal bobcat]

excited for more coming from you, bud! keep it up

[viscid gust]

I’m glad to see people starting up drawing again! Forum serving its purpose

[signal bobcat]

my side by side thicc lines work

it gives more life to the character

[viscid gust]

Thicker lines make it POP

[signal bobcat]

a fucking damn it, i might've accidentally merged the lightning effect while i was working and i didn't notice

now i have to redraw them again

[wispy storm]

Test — No. 2

[steady abyss]

glad to hear it

[worn briar]

shit lmao I accidentally made ultrakill v1

[viscid gust]

oh shit
I forgot i have to come up with a theme for the end of the month art event
thats getting announced today

[wary briar]

I'm cooking

[molten sluice]

[worn briar]

ayooooo?

[wary briar]

planning on doing more poses

[viscid gust]

Who is this of?

[wary briar]

Tomboy vedal

so many people liked her... so

gotta bring what the people want

[steady abyss]

wild

[viscid gust]

im trying to come up with ideas for the monthly neuro event art theme
its not easy

Im leaning towards Cookout/Barbeque

[signal bobcat]

well you can't just reveal it yet, that's cheating

[viscid gust]

its 4 hours early, if I even go with that

[signal bobcat]

[glacial estuary]

erm, i never posted anything here

how does this thread work

lol

nvm i read the pinned

[viscid gust]

it really do feel like that

[viscid gust]

if you have any questions that the pin doesnt cover feel free to ask them!

[glacial estuary]

just draw neur? yeah i got it

[viscid gust]

Doesnt have to be Neuro if you dont wanna!
Its also encouraged to post WIP's especially if youre having trouble and wanna ask other artists for help!

[glacial estuary]

i have been spamming my work around

[tidal cosmos]

i need some help or the perspective is fine as it is

[viscid gust]

Oh! Hi!

Simple picture for today. Though funnily enough I really liked it. Might upload this one to #1095941852068331560

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Artist Thread (& Daily Neuro Day: 4/24)

ATTENTION

In one weeks time ( <t:1714527000:f> ) I will be hosting the fourth of 12 themed drawing events in this thread! I am openly inviting everyone who is here to join in! I'm especially encouraging people who don't draw much or at all! I want to create an atmosphere where everyone can come together and draw, regardless of skill!

To celebrate the end of the school year and the starts of everyone's breaks the theme this month is... Cookout/Barbeque!

What that theme specifically entails and means to you is for you to decide!

You have 7 days to come up with something! I really hope to see a lot of you join in! (Try to invite others too!) See you all in a week!

thanks neurobot, I love you too

There we go, you guys did not see the template screwed up

[robust sleet]

"To celebreate the end of the school year and the start of everyone's break"
I can only wish this was the same for me

[viscid gust]

[viscid bobcat]

Here it is not the end of the school year. I love to think when I went to school that I wanted the year to end in the first two days, I am already old.

[viscid gust]

Technically speaking, the end of school years would be next month, but I want to do other things for next month

I associate the end of April and the time between then in mid May as the exams period

[tidal cosmos]

I mean I don't go to school anymore

lmao new emote

[flat gull]

bro I still have an entire month and a half before I'm out of here
not to mention keystone exams, finals, and a bunch of other shit

[tidal cosmos]

Imma try Neuro cooking barbeque Filipino style (If I have it In me)

[viscid gust]

That sounds tasty, I don’t know what that would look like!

I’m thinking going more of the American barbecue Dad approach, with the Kiss the cook apron

[tidal cosmos]

It just a charred black cooking grill with a fucking paint brush as the brush for the souce

[flat gull]

also shit this took me by surprise
I'll try to complete it and then give up after thirty minutes because I'm lazy

[viscid gust]

You have a whole week, take your time, but don’t start too late!

[tidal cosmos]

Oh you too? 🤝

Yea I'll start with the first sketch after I'm cleaned myself, (got my student driving license)

[flat gull]

you read the entire message right

[viscid gust]

That’s why I’m telling you to take your time! People are less likely to give up if they give themselves a time that they actually need into the rushing at the end

Rushing yourself is not fun, art is supposed to be fun. Take your time and do what comes naturally.

[tidal cosmos]

Imma pause this for now then, I still got 1 whole month anyway

[viscid gust]

I’m excited to see your progress!

I’ve been rooting for you!

[flat gull]

actually I already came up with an idea, formed it in like one minute
guess I'll try to sketch it

[tidal cosmos]

https://fxtwitter.com/takuya_kakikata/status/1782729819920474426?t=7MjyurnCuqbChruwTe7xvQ&s=19

[flat gull]

Vedal patties served fresh, unfortunately they aren't green yet
(I'll draw them better later)

[viscid gust]

[viscid bobcat]

That's Spooky

[ruby tide]

I started getting scared myself at the later half too.

That's why I have to expose you to this terror.

[viscid bobcat]

That's not scary, that's Spooky it's not the same

[tidal cosmos]

[ruby tide]

||I had a more wholesome ending in mind, but the abrupt ending kinda has it's own charm to it. ||

[flat gull]

guys I do NOT know how to draw a picnic bench

like holy shit I fucked up so hard

[viscid gust]

its not thar bad
honestly i would just selected it, use the transform too, and just kinda
stretch it into the correct angle

then roughtly trace that into a proper table

[weak wave]

Idk why I did this

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[viscid gust]

cute is what it is!

[ruby tide]

Is the theme cursed Neuros this month or what?

[signal bobcat]

omg

ramen hitting the peak content

[viscid gust]

it will be cool one day to be able to just kinda
draw whatever

[signal bobcat]

it's the best part of drawing after all

[weak wave]

With great power comes great responsibility

[viscid gust]

i will be extremely irresponsible with my art within 2 years time

[weak wave]

Only thing stopping me is the thought of my future self cringing tbh

I mean I already cringe at the things I thought were good a couple years ago

[robust sleet]

That means you got better than your previous self now

[weak wave]

Yeah it’s a good thing but it physically pains me every time I look back

[signal bobcat]

mood

[worn briar]

honestly sometimes i just cheat perspective

draw it ortho then use the free transform tool

it works great (UP TO A CERTAIN POINT!!!!)

[signal bobcat]

i mean it exists for a reason

it's not cheating

[viscid gust]

Anyways, if anyone didn’t see it already, remember we are having the fourth monthly event in a little under a week now! Try to draw something on theme for then! It’s great practice when working on a piece when the theme is decided for you! (And also the more people who interact the More people we can convince next month to interact as well, since the goal is to also convince new and under experienced artists to try to draw)

[worn briar]

hmm it's less cheating and more step 1 of a long process - just transforming the ortho view gives you the front plane of a box, you have to do all the projections yourself

i guess it would be more useful if I draw the top and side views

[signal bobcat]

just figure out where the vanishing point is and you'll be fine

[worn briar]

it's a whole "draw the rest of the owl" thing

[robust sleet]

BEHOLD, THE OVERLY PAINTED GRILL

(I just wanted you guy's thoughts on the shading)

[signal bobcat]

where is sun facing

[robust sleet]

tbh, didnt really factor that in

[signal bobcat]

[robust sleet]

BEHOLD, THE SLIGHTLY BETTER PAINTED GRILL THAN BEFORE

[worn briar]

where's the light coming from and is it a point light or a planar light

[robust sleet]

about the top right

more like planar

[worn briar]

sunlight is virtually planar so that's fine

[signal bobcat]

a glorious grill

[worn briar]

what are you cooking

[robust sleet]

Vedal Patty and Vedal legs (if only turtles have wings then this would have been a complete barbaque set)

[worn briar]

God this was a bitch to balance

have fun with this pose

[signal bobcat]

[signal bobcat]

ok so. here me out, imagine yourself being carried by harpies.. this is you

[tidal cosmos]

im tempted

[robust sleet]

hmm

[wary briar]

Poses, noses and eyes

[tidal cosmos]

sketch

[wary briar]

damn, why are hands so fucking hard AHHHHGGGG

im going schizo

[tidal cosmos]

Relatable

[wary briar]

who tf invented hands? 😠

[tidal cosmos]

Bro has changed pfp

[wary briar]

it was necessary

[worn briar]

hands are sausage links on a ball

[wary briar]

https://tenor.com/view/sageyonce-gif-20853661

[worn briar]

hey don't knock it

try it out

[steady abyss]

and then theres me with box

[worn briar]

sausage works

unfortunately looks kinda chunky

[viscid gust]

[worn briar]

I can't do clothes

[viscid gust]

i just look up clothes online for basic drawings of non OC's
just steal an outfit wholesale

[worn briar]

[wary briar]

love drawing hoodies because they are kinda easy to draw

[signal bobcat]

well.. yeah.. kinda

[steady abyss]

hype

[viscid gust]

I dunno when ill finish the lineart (20 minutes??), so ill post this now as an unnofficial daily neuro until the full things is done
Ill start the lineart from what I have though, since Im already out of time

sorry its hard to see
sketch always uses thin lines

[steady abyss]

my side monior has it so bright i couldnt see it without zoomin ha

[viscid gust]

the one im cooking up will be a lot easier to see

[steady abyss]

Nice Nice

[viscid bobcat]

I never use thin lines when i draw

Because i don't do sketchs, i just draw it

[viscid gust]

sketches allow me to be messy and figure out things are shaped
I draw smoother lines over it afterwards to make it look nice

Peace!

The hand off to the side ended up looking odd. Oh well, I was running out of time.

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[viscid bobcat]

I have the idea of the drawing and without sketches I directly draw the final version

[viscid gust]

Artist Thread (& Daily Neuro Day: 4/25)

[viscid bobcat]

Everyone draws as they feel most comfortable and that's fine, I respect and admire how everyone draws.

[viscid gust]

6 Days until the Monthly art event!
Theme is Cookout/Barbeque!

[open flint]

Seeing everyone’s clip studio layout makes me feel like an animal. I have no organization 😭

[robust sleet]

Now im curious

[open flint]

I’ll send when I can😭

[open flint]

Like this layout is so neat

[wary briar]

is it really that bad?

[open flint]

I think so lol

[viscid gust]

I personally wouldnt ever use clip studio
I dont support scummy practices

I got 12 year old copy of Paint Tools Sai and thats all I need

[flat gull]

before I installed krita I used Paint 3D on the computer
thoughts?

[viscid gust]

Im surprised you survived

[flat gull]

I mean
they weren't really high-effort drawings anyway

but still
that has to be the most feature-lacking paint program one can think of

[viscid gust]

I rememebr there being a big switch to Firealpaca like a decade ago
is that still a good program?

[robust sleet]

I mean everyone had to start somewhere

[flat gull]

yeah but most people start on MS Paint no?
I'm not sure if 3D is better or worse

[robust sleet]

Tbh im also suprised you survived paint 3d

[flat gull]

the only decentish part about it is that it has a pretty versatile shape/line tool considering how many presets it has

other than that not much

[robust sleet]

I started with gimp at first but now photoshop just won my heart

[flat gull]

and your money :LULE:

[robust sleet]

Sadly

[flat gull]

also I use Photoshop too

the catch is

it's on the school computers so I don't actually own it

[robust sleet]

[flat gull]

and also

[robust sleet]

Ah i see

[flat gull]

it's the 2008 version

no wait 2012 I think

but still

[robust sleet]

Actually the 2012 one is not bad

Certainly lacking than the new ones though

But pretty fine for basic stuff

[flat gull]

I wonder if the super old (pre 2010) versions are really cheap or free
are they?
or does Adobe like money too much

[viscid gust]

Adobe is gross

[robust sleet]

I mean, there is a lot of sites that actually have the download links for it

But i doubt adobe would be fine with it

[flat gull]

[flat gull]

ok

[robust sleet]

Exactly

[flat gull]

alright
I'll pirate the 2024 version though /j
surely I won't get a virus

[robust sleet]

[flat gull]

[insert scam message here, he got a virus smh]

[robust sleet]

By the way

I have a hot take

[flat gull]

go on

[robust sleet]

Tracing is actually a good tool to learn drawing

[flat gull]

probably more so if you look at one paper with a drawing and directly cross-reference it (I probably choose the wrong word to describe that lol) to a blank paper
but I can imagine you being able to draw it from memory after you do it enough times, then draw other things in the same style

[robust sleet]

There is a mosquito harrasing me rn so sorry for the long typing

But in short

[flat gull]

tell Vedal to stop then

[robust sleet]

It should only be a tool for new people

And nkt a method to draw (yes i kept the nkt because its funny)

[flat gull]

nkt

[robust sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/minor-spelling-mistake-gif-21179057

[steady abyss]

I think i finally found a style i resonate with

[viscid gust]

https://tenor.com/view/minor-spelling-mistake-major-spelling-mistake-spelling-mistake-spelling-correction-minor-spelling-mistake-i-win-gif-6120296419664849866

[steady abyss]

i realized i wasn't able to the anime style well because when i draw i tend to lean away from it and tend to try to make it realistic and then it ends up looking goofy, but i like how this is turning out so far

[steady abyss]

still really wip, only got base color and a shadow down

[worn briar]

reminds me of wakfu

[worn briar]

god my power will skyrocket once i figure out how the meat on the thighs and the pelvic girdle connects

grr i need more studies

[robust sleet]

Today's sketch WIP. (might post in art later once done)

I cant help but feel like i got some parts wrong. cant exactly point out which

[steady abyss]

on the left side of the drawing, the characters hair kinda looks like its just coming out of where the head line would be

[robust sleet]

wait do you mean the ponytails or the shape of the middle hair? cause the left side is supposed to be the ponytails

[steady abyss]

it just feels like the hair is too close to the head there

idk

[worn briar]

the dip is fine, it's the eyebrow-eyesocket-cheek dip (yes there's probably a scientific term for it, probably something with orbit in the name)

there's that yt shorts guy that explains where hair should come from

[steady abyss]

yeah the dip is fine, im just saying like the hair i think should be drawn above that to give the sensation of separation from the head because to my eye atleast it looks like the hair is forming the head instead of being formed around it

[worn briar]

hmm i see, i misread

i suppose they can draw the outline of the cranial bones for a clearer guide

fun fact, the cranial bones all together is called the neurocranium

💀

[robust sleet]

I dont know if i overdid it, but i extended the distance between the hair and the head more

[worn briar]

feels better

[steady abyss]

yeah looks good

[tidal cosmos]

eye placement looks better now i think

[viscid gust]

Cuuttee!

[viscid gust]

You guys are in for my very best daily neuro today
Ive already spent like 3 hours on it, and Im probably gonna hit at least 1 more

[tidal cosmos]

https://fxtwitter.com/takuya_kakikata/status/1783456423038615969?t=newiYwPc3TPcW627jv4ekQ&s=19

[viscid gust]

im not making it a habit to do these big pieces (I would normally want to spend several days on these)
I was just inspired

[tidal cosmos]

Keep cooking

[steady abyss]

hype

[robust sleet]

[tawdry leaf]

looking forward to the results.

[viscid gust]

onky just finished
4 hours 10 minutes

did it all in one sitting, whoops

Deep in the Kelp Forest Caves.

Probably the single best piece of art I make. I spent 2 (4 hours 10 minutes total) more hours on it than I normally do. I really love Subnautica so during the stream i felt inspired to start (and finish) this piece. I hope you like it! Featuring the Oxygen Plant (Vedal please use them more often I beg of you)

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I normally dont do such detailed arts. Im not ready to churn them out yet.
Hope it looks okay.

Artist Thread (& Daily Neuro Day: 4/26)

5 Days until the community event!

[tidal cosmos]

all artist is like that, if they got inspiration/motivation, any big pieces can be made quickly, so using that inspiration to do ur piece is great

[wary briar]

delicious

[viscid gust]

[white bison]

Hello fellow artist! Nice to meet you, would it be alright to ask if anyone has a suggestion to draw something

[viscid gust]

You need inspiration?
Hmm 🤔

Im not very good with people put on the spot
If you want to do something a bit different Starting on March 1st (#1202464797921247272 message) I did 40 straight days of fantasy classes from my favorite tabletop game

Maybe flip through there and see if theres anything you like? (I provided descriptions right after nearly each post) if you need a bit of guidance.

Its a great way to pull you out of your comfort zone and draw something you normally wouldnt

[white bison]

Oh seems fun!

Thank you for the suggestion!

[viscid gust]

[white bison]

[viscid gust]

Its honestly something I reccomend to a lot of newer artist too, since it has you doing such wildly different things you end up learning a whole lot

Not every day, but plenty of the days I did these, people joined in, if you need more examples on how people tackled these

[white bison]

As a massive fan of Dark souls I think It’ll be fun to try and draw something fantasy

[viscid gust]

would love to see whatever you end up drawing

[robust sleet]

have you been notified about the community event

[viscid gust]

check it out here @white bison !

[white bison]

hmm, I think I’ll do both, more practice the better

[viscid gust]

https://youtu.be/amKyA2PrSu4
I plan on recreating this scene from King of the Hill but with Neuro and Vedal

[vapid root]

The steak will still steak though?

[white bison]

i was thinking of putting vedals shell on there

[viscid gust]

Cooking a steak for different lengths will affect its taste pretty signigantly
theres also a stigma around well done steaks because people claim that its basically burnt and all of the tasty juice in it is dried up

[vapid root]

Oops, meant the steak will still BE steak though?

[viscid gust]

I personally dont like pink in my steak, but I dont like it well done
so I opt for a stage between medium rare and well done (medium well)

[vapid root]

Is it pinned somewhere?

[robust sleet]

its not pinned yet but heir's text below my previous one already link the message

[viscid gust]

ill pin it

[vapid root]

BBQ

[viscid gust]

very american
but i love a good cookout

[vapid root]

I've had cookouts too.

[robust sleet]

finally done with the colouring https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1233254995777028096

[viscid gust]

[glacial estuary]

trying to figure out the skirt

[worn briar]

fucking SAME

[jolly holly]

I enjoyed drawing skirts, kinda came intuitively to me for the most part so it’s hard for me to give advise
those are the 3 pieces with complicated folds I did

[worn briar]

honestly i just picture reeses cups in my head

[jolly holly]

What’s resses cups?

[jolly holly]

[wispy storm]

[jolly holly]

My process is to first outline the skirt as if it is just a cylinder of cloth, then add some rigidity, so it has sharper folds, and then add frills by “just folding it”

[worn briar]

the pleats are the hardest part

[jolly holly]

Just fold it

[worn briar]

[glacial estuary]

what do you guys think of these shoes?

the one on the right looks weird to me

(her left)

[worn briar]

the right one looks good actually

[glacial estuary]

oh ok, i was just critical then

[tidal cosmos]

Holy shit ur right, I'm making myself do skirt harder

[jolly holly]

Better without them ||nothing to do with their quality||

[tidal cosmos]

Smh

[signal bobcat]

oh~ not bad, the doodle below looks like frog's foot.. just don't forget 3D still applies anywhere, don't make your lines too flat.. like this imagine below, you can see there's a bit of curve

[glacial estuary]

Hmm

Noted

[signal bobcat]

to draw any clothes.. become one with the cylinder

oh and it still depends on the fabric of the skirt

[weak wave]

Oop kinda late but the folds in the skirt should follow some sort of larger structure (shown in red)

Also I tend to find it looks a bit better if you give the cloth a bit of thickness

An easy way to do this is to not connect the lines all the way on the edges

[signal bobcat]

don't make lines too flat tho

i mean hold on lemme point it out

oh god i forgot how to use ibipaint now..

but yeah imagine (or just sketch one) a cylinder and use it to draw the skirt around

[signal bobcat]

more of skirtle

[weak wave]

Ah yes true if you want to make it realistic you should use cylinders

I tend to make my designs boxy

[signal bobcat]

we all love boxes i have no further objections

[viscid gust]

meanwhile i take maniac with a hammer approach to my drawing tablet to draw skirts (no references, no guides)
and it works fine i guess

[glacial estuary]

Thanks for all the help you guys

Soon im gonna get a tablet myself

[viscid gust]

it took me about a week and a half to acclimate to mine
though I had used an old bamboo one like a decade ago

[viscid gust]

:o this looks really neat (I realized I forgot to draw the middle shirt lines much later into the frawing and just added them to the colors layer, whoops

[open flint]

some of my face practice/progress

[viscid gust]

Outstretched hand.

Just doing some sketching today. Hand looks like crap, but at least the skirt is pretty.

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4 days until the themed event!

[harsh arch]

What's the event?

Cute, by the way

[viscid gust]

Artist Thread (& Daily Neuro Day: 4/27)

[viscid bobcat]

The face of neuro Is cute

[viscid gust]

agreed
I got the eyes looking really good today, it helps a lot

[viscid bobcat]

Is the right leg a little bigger than the other or is it because of perspective?

[vapid root]

BBQ/cookout

[viscid gust]

yeah

[viscid bobcat]

Perspective

Ok

[viscid gust]

i also just suck at perspective so

[viscid bobcat]

It's ok, i suck at perspective too

[viscid gust]

[proud birch]

Smth wip

Im just waiting for the commissioner to wake up now

[worn briar]

God you guys are so good at color theory

[worn briar]

what's a good hairstyle?

I misread mesmerist as mentalist and now I'm in too deep

[signal bobcat]

a ponytail or a shorthair would fit really well

[worn briar]

damn i really do unconsciously make them thick

[wary briar]

me too, wish i could show you guys some drawings but they are too spicy to send here

[tidal cosmos]

you like it thicc

[viscid gust]

There’s crossover between the two don’t worry

[steady abyss]

likewise