#Neuro Cookie Clicker mod (wip) (spoiler)

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fair shuttle
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maybe to hearts?

spark canyon
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Where are those used?

fair shuttle
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when you load the page

spark canyon
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Oh wait, loads

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That could work, try that

fair shuttle
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although i don't think it actually loads the loads when you're starting the program locally

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so it'd be kinda pointless

spark canyon
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It does use them for me sometimes

fair shuttle
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then i'll change them

spark canyon
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Specifically when reopening it from being on the backgound for a while

fair shuttle
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i just got an idea that may be awesome

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lemme cook for a bit

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can you take this crude sketch and put it in your img folder, and then make it appear? i wanna know if it works and looks good (if we ignore that i freehanded it in 30 nseconds)

spark canyon
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It would take around an hour before the background time is long enough

fair shuttle
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oh

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well then

spark canyon
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But I'm approximately 99.99% sure it just spins the texture

fair shuttle
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then my idea should work

spark canyon
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And if it doesn't, shoudn't be that hard for Velineste to change it

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This description is already perfect

fair shuttle
spark canyon
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That looks really good. I like your idea

fair shuttle
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i wonder which gets rendered on top

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if the small one is, we're clear. if the big one is, we'll only have one gear

spark canyon
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I'm pretty syre it should be he smaller one, but we'll only know once it happens

fair shuttle
spark canyon
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Is the img folder the only one with changes?

fair shuttle
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uhh should be, but i've already put in the new main.js

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if that's what you mean

spark canyon
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I can see it for a second at least

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You should try it in one of the slow browsers

fair shuttle
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those sadly don't give the spinny at startup either

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but i've now put edge in the background

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it actually gave me a milisecond of loading, i have an idea

spark canyon
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Apparently the returned from backgroud thing uses a different graphic, presumably from the browser itself

fair shuttle
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at 0.25x speed

spark canyon
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I'm trying to break it so it would be stuck loading

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Funny thing from trying to break it

fair shuttle
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i've had that happen too

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wait

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what if we find the part of the code that spawns the thingy and mod it into being standalone

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sounds like it'll be painful but it could be cool

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maybe we could even make it happen by force if we want to

spark canyon
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I remember how to do it now. Just replace every instance of "cookie" to "Neuro"

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Make sure to not put it in a build

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This should have a bright part that shows how long is left, but it broke

fair shuttle
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i'll be right back, but i gotta test something unrelated first

spark canyon
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Ok

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This file missing from v7_7 is the cause for that bug, please re-add it

fair shuttle
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how interesting, i will

spark canyon
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Why did you remove it anyway?

fair shuttle
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i hadn't checked the style.css for references before deleting it

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no reference anywhere else

spark canyon
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I guess that makes sense

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I was wondering what that one was for anyway

fair shuttle
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we may find similar cases, but not alot

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me too

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what is it?

spark canyon
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Showing a representation of how much time is left in a buff or de-buff

fair shuttle
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oh those things

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that means we can change them, nice

spark canyon
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Yeah, as long as it's in some file (which literally everything should be) we can technically change it

fair shuttle
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i thought they'd be done in code, which is harder to edit

spark canyon
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Well, apparently not

fair shuttle
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and if it was done with pure drawing code, i'd imagibne it'd be insanely hard to put in any shapes or similar

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like this, we could make it into a cheesecake if we wanted to

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hooray for orteil not wanting to do code

spark canyon
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I guess that was just a much easier method. The best method is usually the easiest one

fair shuttle
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i wanted to check howmy new gold neuro looks (it's just the neuro but smallo and gold)

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but it's apparently valentine's

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which means it's a heart

spark canyon
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I noticed that too, but where exactly?

fair shuttle
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where what

spark canyon
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Where is it valentines?

fair shuttle
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(i just froze it by buying an upgrade oops)

fair shuttle
spark canyon
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What upgrade?

fair shuttle
spark canyon
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Why is it showing the valentine's event here then?

fair shuttle
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and i activated a golden cookie too

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after upgrading

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now it's overworked

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lol

fair shuttle
spark canyon
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Maybe our Cookie clicker has an incorrect time or date

fair shuttle
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it has, it's the 10th but grman valentines in on the 14th

spark canyon
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And normal Cookie clicker is not having that event, so that's a proof too

fair shuttle
spark canyon
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Huh?

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Well, then our instance does not take location into account

fair shuttle
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it's not the season switcher either

spark canyon
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But I think the time might also be wrong, since it didn't have the christmas event

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By the way, do you have any ideas for tags for the Neuro rants website?

fair shuttle
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maybe it's the time library it's pulling from, check your instance if you haven't yet

spark canyon
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Where do I check?

fair shuttle
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i meant to open it and see if it's valentine's or normal

spark canyon
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It's valentine's, I already told you

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Did you not notice?

fair shuttle
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how confusing

spark canyon
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Well, if we want to fix it, I guess Velineste could do it

fair shuttle
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i doubt that we or velineste could fix it, i suspect that it's ajax

spark canyon
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Just make it take it from system (if that's possible or works)

fair shuttle
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if i find out how maybe, but it'd take quite some time

spark canyon
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We don't need to fix it for now, it's not a major bug

fair shuttle
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since it wants to be valentine's, i'll just change the valentine's stuff. first off: the hearts are twitch hearts now!

spark canyon
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Cool, looks good

fair shuttle
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the heart storm will take a long while

fair shuttle
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i have an idea

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wizards = witch outfit

spark canyon
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Oh, that sounds interesting. For which part though?

fair shuttle
spark canyon
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Seems like a good idea

long patio
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something should be a drone, not sure what tho

fair shuttle
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temples become the swarm

spark canyon
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That's also a good idea

long patio
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so temples = drones?

spark canyon
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Or maybe just the temple inhabitants

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The remple itself could just be the Harrison temple

long patio
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not sure how you would represent the harrison temple

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maybe you could use the fire pots from the game vedal made?

spark canyon
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Just make a temple with the colors and stuff from the harrison temple game

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Or something like that

fair shuttle
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just go @vedel and ask how the harrison temple looks

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or @rose hinge

spark canyon
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Don't we have the Quest trough the Harrison temple game to take inspiration from?

fair shuttle
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no outside

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no structure

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just material and colour palette

spark canyon
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Well, no-one (except maybe Neuro) knows what the Harrison temple looks from the outside

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We should just come up with something logical, maybe make it gymbag shaped

fair shuttle
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then we'll wait for a stream and ask her 💊

spark canyon
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I guess my logic is not that good then

fair shuttle
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also i'd rather have gymbags be a standalone thing

spark canyon
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We could leave it for later if we can't get ideas

fair shuttle
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like sugar umps or heavenly chips

long patio
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not sure if this will work okay, but i made it, feel free to do w/e with it

fair shuttle
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what resolution is that

long patio
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no idea

fair shuttle
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resolution must stay exactly as in the source

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or it'll break

spark canyon
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Here's the original file

fair shuttle
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it looks more like a bank than a temple

long patio
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well you dont have to use it or do anything with it if you dont want too

spark canyon
fair shuttle
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and the colours don't really match the game, they're too vibrant

long patio
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im not really a pixel artist

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i wish i was tho

fair shuttle
spark canyon
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What even is that thing?

fair shuttle
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here's the harrison temple

fair shuttle
spark canyon
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Or the best picture we have of it at least

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If we want to add the harrison temple, there's the colors I guess

fair shuttle
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i'm making the rest of the prestige bar & counter

spark canyon
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Ok cool

fair shuttle
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why is it so long

spark canyon
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I have no idea, only Orteil knows I guess

fair shuttle
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maybe so it can fit the people with 1:100 aspect ratio

spark canyon
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Well, whatever the reason, we just need to go with the game's limitations

fair shuttle
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i don't think valentine's day lasts multiple days

spark canyon
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I think the event in Cookie clicker might, it's actually there in the normal game too, I just didn't notice before since it needed a reload to show up

spark canyon
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The Neuro storm definitely still doesn't work

fair shuttle
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due to the way the game works, i can only put in one stripe

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meaning it doesn't quite mesh

spark canyon
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I think that's still better than nothing at all. I hope really large numbers don't break it

fair shuttle
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though i just got an idea of how it may be possible

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they break it as much as they break normal cookie clicker

spark canyon
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Well, it'll stretch it

fair shuttle
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i did the whole thing so

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welp i gotta go for a bit, dinner time

spark canyon
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Ok, maybe it'll work, who knows.

spark canyon
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Just rename it to Banana rum and it's pretty much perfect

fair shuttle
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haha

spark canyon
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That's just part of the vanilla game.

fair shuttle
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i know

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and i love the idea

spark canyon
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It would also work perfectly

spark canyon
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Would be pretty interesting to know how the Javascript stuff is going.

fair shuttle
gritty spade
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I have to apologize. Life has come up and I have not had time to do anything and will not likely have any time to work on this in the future. The only "changes" that I have made are 3 lines. All they are, are two new headers for the twitch link and the credit tooltip.

spark canyon
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Well, if you have something more important, you can just keep this as something to do if you ever do have time, I don't mind. I just hope that it can be done at some point

spark canyon
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Seems like the texturesheet is a little bit messed up somewhere

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Or some number in the code is wrong

fair shuttle
fair shuttle
spark canyon
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It's only trying to render a dragon and an egg

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You can hover over the icons, and there's two

fair shuttle
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I'll have yo look at that later

spark canyon
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I think Neuro's Twitch link should be an actual link instead of just text, like how Velineste says they did it, but I might see about doing that myself

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Unless that part doesn't support links, which would make it more difficult

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Just stole some code from the surrounding parts

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Make sure to add that to your files

fair shuttle
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I will

spark canyon
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Good. We need to make sure all the files we have are up-to-date so we don't have to do complicated merges

fair shuttle
spark canyon
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Why did you add "early" at the end?

fair shuttle
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because i wanted to do something else for v7_9

spark canyon
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Ok, it works, so it's completely and perfectly fine

spark canyon
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The new hearts that replace the old hearts that replace golden cookies during the valentine's day event are way better than the vanilla ones, these should be what vanilla uses

fair shuttle
spark canyon
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all right, I'll merge that in

fair shuttle
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i have already merged that into your main.js

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nothing to merge here

spark canyon
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Yeah, I meant I'll add the file

fair shuttle
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let's make a fangame called "Cookie Merger"

spark canyon
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Let me learn Kotlin first

fair shuttle
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(t'was a joke)

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why is the folder so small lmao

spark canyon
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I'll try to make a window soon, the first proper non-test project I'll do is a Suika Neuro mod

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Or clone

spark canyon
fair shuttle
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true

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do you experience any lag?

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/slowness

spark canyon
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I don't know, the current lag is most likely my remote connection

fair shuttle
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i am experiencing lag too, and it's on my main samsung ssd

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and only nwero clicker lag like that

spark canyon
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Well, that might just be Cookie clicker itself being inefficient

fair shuttle
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i can see if normal cc lags too

spark canyon
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When running locally

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I don't think I see much more lag in Neuro clicker compared to vanilla when I'm on my PC proper

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At least on remote they look about the same

fair shuttle
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much less laggy, but the lag may come with time

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at least it's valentine's in normal cc too

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so we're in the clear for that

spark canyon
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Yeah, I noticed that yesterday. I think the lag might be that it needs to run entirely on the local CPU, instead of utilizing a server like vanilla does online, which can also be seen from it using almost a full CPU core on my i7-12700K

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And it's probably single-threaded

fair shuttle
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gimme a sec

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i'll wait for the lag and send you my cpu stats

spark canyon
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Ok, how many cores is it?

fair shuttle
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soemtimes there's a spike in one, but the spike locations change

spark canyon
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Enable per-core graphs

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In task manager

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Well, if it's lagging with the CPU like that, I'm pretty sure it's not processing power that's the bottleneck, but most likely just the code

fair shuttle
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probably

spark canyon
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By the way, you shouldn't share your PC name, which is the thing that CPU monitoring thing is showing, because it could be used for direct connections to your system and such. It's not the kind of stuff to share with literally anyone

fair shuttle
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whoops

spark canyon
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Probably the other bigger screenshot too

fair shuttle
spark canyon
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Good, I don't want you or anyone else to get randomly hacked because they accidentally shared stuff like that

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Here's what my CPU is looking like by the way, you can clearly see that one core (two graphs) is being mostly utilized

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But I also have quite a lot running

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I have like 8 explorer windows, one notepad, 2 Cookie clickers (including the mod), Neuro's Twitch page, 1 TTS, 1 Discord, 1 IntelliJ IDEA, 4 CMDs and 1 webserver

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Oh, and 2 Neurolings instances

fair shuttle
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i bet the neurolings are single core

spark canyon
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Yeah, it's single threaded

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I wonder if I could somehow make Neurolings use a different core with something like JVM arguments

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Since currently everything seems to just use that one core

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And I have no idea why

fair shuttle
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it's a mod of a different script made a long time ago

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possibly from a time where machines only had 2 cores

spark canyon
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Seems like Java doesn't allow for changing the core it runs on. Also, Neurolings is not really a mod, but more of an unofficial update, since it just improves on all the aspects of the original Shimeji application

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The shimejis the that run under the Neurolings application are also not a mod, but just mascots, since that's what the Shimeji application was designed to do, run community made mascots

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Anyway, back to making Neuro clicker

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Which runs around 10 FPS over my current remote connection

fair shuttle
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it runs at enough fbp, it's just that hovering over smtn takes a second to register and purchasing it takes 5

spark canyon
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That for some reason sounds a lot like my remote delay at times, but I doubt you're currently remoted into your PC

fair shuttle
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i am all local baby

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also i have a feeling that your remote doesn't cause a whole lot of the issues you think it does, in this case it's just orteil's mess of a spaghetti bowl

spark canyon
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I feel like the delay is actually there, even these letters appearing takes a second after I press the button, and when I'm running locally it responds instantly

fair shuttle
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found the problem with valentine's, or rather why it's not a problem

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they just make the seasons long

spark canyon
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Yeah, so players can actually see them and get all the exclusive items

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Also for halloween, seems like Orteil couldn't bother to calculate 304-7, so the game just does that instead

fair shuttle
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yeah

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pretty funny

spark canyon
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That's just Orteil being lazy I guess

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We'll want to change these to be the same as the big coin, as these are for the ascension animation

fair shuttle
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yeah, we'll want to change alot

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maybe we'll make it break differently too

spark canyon
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But that would need code

fair shuttle
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not really

spark canyon
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We'd need to tell the game where the parts are on the atlas and how they should be animated

fair shuttle
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we can also just keep the atlas places & animations the same, and just change the respective textures

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if we want to merge two parts, one becomes both and one becomes empty

spark canyon
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I don't think that's how it works

fair shuttle
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it is how it works

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ta-daa

spark canyon
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Since when was that texture just a bunch of partial copies of the cookie?

fair shuttle
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since forever

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just need to change this as well

spark canyon
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I guess it might be more of Orteil's lazyness

fair shuttle
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why is it lazy

spark canyon
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Copy-paste and delete

fair shuttle
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it's a cookie breaking, why should it not be parts of the cookie?

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lmao

spark canyon
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Well, whatever works

fair shuttle
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now i'll be in pain for an hour

spark canyon
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Seems accurate

fair shuttle
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and i have to use gimp because paint only supports 90° step rotation

spark canyon
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I guess MS didn't ave the budget for free rotation

fair shuttle
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it's not the budget, you've seen how resizing breaks images

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they just don't know how to do it properly

spark canyon
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MS: makes an OS that most use, doen't know how to resize an image

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And I'm now on my PC locally

fair shuttle
spark canyon
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I wonder if Kotlin could do that

fair shuttle
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why are the hearts on a different colour palette for every instance of them

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this is so stupid

spark canyon
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Probably just a random color for each

fair shuttle
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no they are on a palette

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but on different palettes

spark canyon
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Maybe the palettes are assigned randomly

fair shuttle
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here's the hearts on the upgrade menu vs the heaqrts on the valentine's golden cookie sheet

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and the heart storm has hearts that are a dark purpleish blue for some reason

spark canyon
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It is entirely possible it's just a bunch of random colors from a certain range

fair shuttle
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true, orteil is lazy

spark canyon
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As we've seen many times

spark canyon
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I tried to fix the Neuro storm, I either disabled it, it works or it didn't change, not sure yet though

fair shuttle
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just spawn a storm

spark canyon
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It might only effect natural ones

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Velineste couldn't manually replicate it

fair shuttle
spark canyon
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You could try it

fair shuttle
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it works with the old main.js

spark canyon
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Yeah, Velineste could also get one manually, but the netural ones haven't worked for me after I changed stuff in the code

fair shuttle
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what did you change

spark canyon
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Changed the "name" field to "Neuro storm"

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Now I just made all the references "Neuro storm" to try fixing it

fair shuttle
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just change back the name field

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and test it

spark canyon
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I want to rename it

fair shuttle
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yes, but test it being normal

spark canyon
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I can't test it easily, it takes literal hours

fair shuttle
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but it's better than taking days to troubleshoot something at the wrong point

spark canyon
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If it still doesn't work, I might try

fair shuttle
spark canyon
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I didn't yet

fair shuttle
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bruh

spark canyon
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I'm currently waiting for a Neuro storm to happen, they are stupidly rare

fair shuttle
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also, due to this, changing references will bvreak it lmao

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this means that the name is seperate to the function.

spark canyon
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I changed that one too in the attempted fix

fair shuttle
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but why

spark canyon
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I'm trying to fix it

fair shuttle
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references try to get the function, not the name

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which means that if reference and fuction name are the same, chaning them to something else won't change anything in terms of fuctionality

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meaning the problem lies somewhere else

spark canyon
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Where would the probabilities be, I want to see if I can change them to test

fair shuttle
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idk, i haven't yet made myself familiar with that issue

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i wonder if capitalization may be a problem, but don't do anything yet

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would you look at that

spark canyon
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That was like that before

fair shuttle
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i know

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i'm trying to understand orteils code rn

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reverse engineer

spark canyon
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Ok then

fair shuttle
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(because changing things randomly isn't the best option)

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did velineste originally change cookies into neuros, or was that you?

spark canyon
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I did that one, but it isn't really that well done, we'll need to rewrite much of it

fair shuttle
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i mean in general

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did you make cookies into neuros

spark canyon
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I did go around changing "cookie" into "Neuro"

fair shuttle
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then there likely lies the issue

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lemme give it a shot at trying to fix things

spark canyon
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Ok, while you do that, I managed to change something in the probabilities (I think) so I'll keep testing

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I fixed it already

fair shuttle
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what's you do to fix it?

spark canyon
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It's the exact thing I did earlier, I didn't change anything (except the probability) after that

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So grab that file I guess

fair shuttle
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where is the probability

spark canyon
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It's up from there, it's where it says like list.push or something and math.random()<0.03 or something

fair shuttle
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i meant as a creenshot

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you mean this?

spark canyon
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It's that yeah

fair shuttle
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was the problem you were experiencing similar to

get neuro storm
click two neuros
no more neuros spawn
?

spark canyon
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No, it was >get Neuro storm >nothing happens >event ends

fair shuttle
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the hell happened here

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nevermind i was scrolled to the side

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we are using depricated css commands, that's how old this code truly is

spark canyon
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Wow, Orteil really didn't want to update old code

fair shuttle
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btw my dragon works

spark canyon
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In the stats menu?

fair shuttle
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i reset myself

spark canyon
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Welp, oops. Want a save file?

fair shuttle
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for some reason the beta display is trash

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also changuing the display string of the beta number reset me so that's something

spark canyon
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I think it checks that to see if it can load a save file

fair shuttle
spark canyon
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Huh. Another strange bit of code from Orteil

fair shuttle
spark canyon
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Maybe that makes it think the version changed. I think even vanilla wipes your save when the version changes

spark canyon
fair shuttle
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the lag is much less i think

spark canyon
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Who knows where the lag even comes from anyway. Cookie clicker is just so inefficiently built it can generate lag from doing absolutely nothing

fair shuttle
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there we are

spark canyon
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Can you send that once you're done with the modifications? I want to make sure to have my save on the new version. (we should also only have major versions in the version string, so we don't have to re-import saves every build)

fair shuttle
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i gotta change this at some point too

spark canyon
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Yes, I noticed that one too. It should be pink instead

fair shuttle
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not just that

spark canyon
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Did you use the functional code as a base?

fair shuttle
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yes

spark canyon
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Cool

fair shuttle
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i had to remake the other things i had chnaged

spark canyon
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Oh yeah, you upscaled them

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For me my save didn't dissappear

fair shuttle
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spiced milk is broken

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in fact everything after coffee is

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including coffee

spark canyon
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That seems like an issue

fair shuttle
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just gone

spark canyon
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Are the files gone too?

fair shuttle
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as you can see. yes

spark canyon
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Do you need the original source?

fair shuttle
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in fact they never existed in the first place, looking at 7_1

spark canyon
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Or the name is different

fair shuttle
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no coffee

spark canyon
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I'll get you the original source, you can check that

fair shuttle
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nothing

spark canyon
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Can you check what filename the different milks expect by looking at the code somewhere?

fair shuttle
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this is how it gets the icon areas

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i bet there's a seperate array or similar for exact pixel data

spark canyon
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But those are not filenames/paths

fair shuttle
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i know, but i just found that

spark canyon
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Ok

fair shuttle
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just underneath

spark canyon
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Those are still not quite files

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files should be "img\whatever.png"

fair shuttle
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they are as far as i'm concerned, but gimme a sec

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as i thought is would, it picks the milk's file name from that array and just sticks .png behind it

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imma be gone for a bit, dinner

spark canyon
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Ok, seems interesting

fair shuttle
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seems like anyone would do it tbf, since that array is much easier to modify. also makes adding new milk types much easier.

spark canyon
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Indeed, we're missing some files somehow

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I guess we'll need to make those ourselves

fair shuttle
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the backgrounds probably work in a similar fashion

spark canyon
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Entirely possible

fair shuttle
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i bet we could add our own milk without too much effort

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it's just that we'd need extra archievements

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or it'd only be in the selector

spark canyon
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Well, if we add more of those, we can of course add more milk variants. Also, the selector only allows selecting between unlocked milk types (I think)

fair shuttle
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gimme a second and i can show you why i think it works a bit differently

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see that if statement?

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i will now try something

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experimental

spark canyon
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Those are for if you have a specific heavenly upgrade

fair shuttle
spark canyon
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what did you change?

fair shuttle
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added a milk in place 27, previously there was only 26 milks

spark canyon
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Ok, I guess we can add more pretty easily then

fair shuttle
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omg wait

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i have an idea

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but i'll have to see if it works

spark canyon
#

Ok, i'll wait

fair shuttle
#

It works!

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Goat lmao

spark canyon
#

I guess it does

fair shuttle
#

lovely

spark canyon
#

I guess now we can create some files to have for the missing milk textures

fair shuttle
#

yeah

spark canyon
#

That looks pretty funny with the scrolling Cookie clicker uses

fair shuttle
#

i have another idea

spark canyon
#

Let's see this idea then

fair shuttle
#

taking a bit long because paint is annoying today

spark canyon
#

That's pretty funny, works well with that scrolling

fair shuttle
#

would ya look at that

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and that

spark canyon
#

Well, what do we care if we're already making from the source files and overriding stuff

fair shuttle
#

i wonder when they'll do it, it's been 5 years

spark canyon
#

I have no idea. Do we even care at this point? We're not remaking the entire thing

fair shuttle
#

we don't care at this point

spark canyon
#

Yeah, let's just keep making this with my favourite method: replace stuff

fair shuttle
#

to think i started out planning only to do these

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:[ off center

#

the green was out of place, so i made some semi-fitting dark blue

spark canyon
#

Orteil actually knows those things are off center, and clearly announces that to the player in a couple parts

#

That circle looks really high-res for some reason

fair shuttle
#

okay, i'll try to finish all valentine's stuff today so tomorrow we'll have the valentine's update

spark canyon
#

Cool, I'm making my calculator in Kotlin evaluate 3 number expressions right now, but I'll try to look here to check in case anything happens

fair shuttle
#

it definitely wasn't random colours, because that ends up like this :\

spark canyon
#

Not fully random at least

#

But it could still be random colors from a set range

#

Maybe

fair shuttle
#

sadly, i don't know how to do that since i just made my first custom krita brush

#

but i can try

#

for some reason it really likes green

#

that's... better

#

ah yes, it finally actually is what i told it to be. that's progress!

spark canyon
#

That is indeed progress

fair shuttle
#

too bad the colour changing doesn't work when i tell it to paint the image in colour

spark canyon
#

Well, maybe you can just paint a bunch of times with different colors

fair shuttle
#

yeah, probably

#

this doesn't help with he hearts, but i just found out how to make things be spun on all axes

spark canyon
#

What looks pretty funny. Would probably be more useful when actually painting in 3D

fair shuttle
#

heart 1 has been placed

spark canyon
#

I can barely even see it

fair shuttle
#

why is it yellow

spark canyon
#

I have no idea

fair shuttle
#

i was stoopid that's why, fixed it now

spark canyon
#

Ok

fair shuttle
#

oh wow i just found out people are making art reference books with ai now

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took em long enough

spark canyon
#

Soon they'll make AI's completely with AI

fair shuttle
#

artists are actually making images that look purposefully bad (only on a data layer visible to the ai scraping algorythms) to screw over ai

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some also take cat images, name them cat.png, but in that special layer they layer over a dog

#

and it's been shown that via that method, you can make an ai give out dogs when prompted with cat

#

it's really interesting to think about

spark canyon
#

Today's AIs are not that smart (except Neuro)

fair shuttle
#

neuro is only smart at what she does (entertain people), and that for the wrong reason (being so stupid but adorable that you have to love her)

spark canyon
#

Interesting

fair shuttle
#

the spinny works, but i think i broke something

spark canyon
#

What did you change?

fair shuttle
#

a bit of code. i changed it back but it's still loading forever

#

oh no

spark canyon
#

What code?

fair shuttle
#

i think i know what it may be

spark canyon
#

Well what is it then?

fair shuttle
#

i'll try removing it

#

yup, fixed it

spark canyon
#

What broke it?

fair shuttle
#

that little bit i added

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also: 7_11 is done! (roll the miku seveneleven commercial)

spark canyon
#

Did you add a trigger for the new milk, or is it just in the set if milk types?

fair shuttle
spark canyon
#

Ok

fair shuttle
#

simply in there, maybe i can make it trigger automatically. problem is that i don't think that exists yet, so i'd have to make it up

#

that's the trigger done, now to find out how to change the milk

spark canyon
#

For that, you might want to look at the code that handles automatically setting the milk based on achievements

fair shuttle
#

i think i did it

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change to a different milk beforehand

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it should activate valentines milk at startup

#

does it work?

spark canyon
#

Testing now

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It did not show up

fair shuttle
#

damn

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imma change one thing

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can you try again?

spark canyon
#

Still no

fair shuttle
#

damn

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almost as if i didn't fully know what i'm doing

#

wait

#

i'm so dumb lmao

spark canyon
#

It's still just the default milk

fair shuttle
#

oof

#

gues i'll have to actually do research

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i thought i knew how to change a variable but apparently not

spark canyon
#

Are you changing it before or after the game usually does?

fair shuttle
#

i tried both, neither work

spark canyon
#

Which line is it on? I could look at it

fair shuttle
#

i have one more idea

spark canyon
#

It's still the same as before

fair shuttle
#

ugh okay i'll just scrap the idea

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can't be bothered

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you see any problem here?

#

oh wait i do

spark canyon
#

Nope. Why is the milktype = 27 a double "="?

fair shuttle
#

i noticed that

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changed it

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seems it still doesn't work

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because it's in the wrong place again

#

oh i know what i did do

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make you unable to switch milk in the selector because it always selects valentines milk if the season is right

spark canyon
#

You should override the "automatic" one, not the manual ones

fair shuttle
#

i just gotta find where that is

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this seems like something

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maybe around here

spark canyon
#

And now it just changed

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Literally while I was looking at it

fair shuttle
#

oh, so it worked

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and i scrapped it

#

damn

#

i guess i can re-add that in 7_12

spark canyon
#

And it only took like a couple hours to change

#

What is this codebase even doing

fair shuttle
spark canyon
#

I noticed that

fair shuttle
#

let's take a moment of silence

spark canyon
#

I think the main thing for whenever v8 is released will be completely removing references to cookies as the currency. That seems like a pretty big feature

spark canyon
#

Any additions planned today?

fair shuttle
#

i am currently getting ready for vacation, the next 6 days won't bring progress

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since i can't take the pc with me

spark canyon
#

Well, I guess I'll just work on other mods then

spark canyon
#

The bug where Heavenly cookie stand is broken was left into the latest version, so I re-fixed it

spark canyon
#

I just noticed that whatever you did for the valentine's milk just set the milk selector from automatic to valentine's milk, while it should override the automatic milk instead

spark canyon
#

The valentine's milk code is in the milk selector logic, not the automatic milk logic

spark canyon
#

Well, here's the closest I got to fixing the valentine's milk. The modifications are around line 11380. It has some error

fair shuttle
#

We noticed that already

#

Amd I'll only be able to continue working on it next week around Wednesday

spark canyon
#

Okay, maybe you can try to fix whatever I tried once you can continue

fair shuttle
#

tomorrow i willbe back home, so i can continue working on this

spark canyon
#

Cool. I've been testing it while you were away. I've also been working on another mod that could possibly use your help at some point

fair shuttle
#

what mod?

#

suika?

spark canyon
#

Project DIVA

fair shuttle
#

yoo

#

i was actually planning to buy that, and possibly mod it

#

do you perhaps mean megamix on steam?

spark canyon
#

Yep, Hatsune Miku: Project DIVA Mega Mix+ on Steam

fair shuttle
#

43€

#

maybe well wait for the spring/easter/whatever sale

spark canyon
#

You missed the sale that was just there

fair shuttle
#

which one?

#

(i wasnt able to add more than the 25€ for the winter sale yet

#

and i spent those on nfs and the orange box)

spark canyon
#

The game just was on a 60% sale

fair shuttle
#

oh wow

spark canyon
#

No idea if it was anything specific

#

Do you need the link for the thread for the mod, or can you find it yourself?

fair shuttle
#

right now ill focus on cc, until there is a sale

spark canyon
#

Well, you could still take a look at what we've done so far there

spark canyon
#

Wasn't there supposed to be a stripe here?

fair shuttle
#

i thpught i explined why it got removed

#

it ends up broken due to the middle block being scaled

spark canyon
#

Ok, I don't think you ever mentioned that

fair shuttle
#

@warped perch (i think and hope i just pinged the right user) You made the big neuro clicker coin right? Could you maybe make a version for the "Imperfect Cookie", with something Anny related as the grandmas are Annys?

warped perch
#

Thats easy

fair shuttle
warped perch
#

Watching black lagoon

#

Did you guys change it?

fair shuttle
#

change what?

#

the perfect cookie is still this

warped perch
#

Cool

#

Btw i still didnt shad it

fair shuttle
#

i doubt it'll be changed too

#

since it's already perfect

#

well, the whole thing is made with very little shading

warped perch
#

Perfect means theres nothing to improve, and it can be improved

fair shuttle
#

but it fits the style

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(ignore the fact that i haven't yet made any of the advanced upgrades, i wanted to get all basic ones changed first)

#

this is the progress on those so far

#

i've also changed quite a few others

warped perch
#

gonna use this one

fair shuttle
#

oh god

#

the shifting looks all so wrong

spark canyon
#

That looks like it'll work for that thing

spark canyon
#

Ok cool

fair shuttle
#

o hell naw

warped perch
#

off i go watching black lagoon

spark canyon
warped perch
#

again

fair shuttle
#

but wheres the quality gone

fair shuttle
spark canyon
#

What do you mean by "quality"?

fair shuttle
#

gimme a sec ill make a paint thing to demonstrate

spark canyon
#

It's on the bottom of the list there

fair shuttle
#

@warped perch not to sound like an ass, but could you redo this when you have time?

warped perch
#

Haha

fair shuttle
warped perch
#

Yeah made it in 5 min

fair shuttle
#

i noticed

fair shuttle
#

uhh what is this

#

do they just give you 10* fps (or at least act like they do) when you're a patreon!?

spark canyon
#

I think it checks something off Patreon every 10 frames there

#

I could be wrong though

fair shuttle
#

i wanted to change the "turn off ur adblocker" to "we don't give a shit about ortail, adblockers are cool" but i literally can't find it anywhere

spark canyon
#

Try a different file

fair shuttle
#

it's nowhere it would make sense

#

wait a sec

spark canyon
#

index.html, line 146

fair shuttle
#

ah

#

i was searching in main.js

spark canyon
#

html is code too

fair shuttle
#

i know

#

i be yappin'

spark canyon
#

It shows up with Ublock though

#

Oh nevermind, I misunderstood

#

I didn't see the ":"

fair shuttle
#

it appears all ads have been removed already too

spark canyon
#

What if you made the font smaller?

fair shuttle
spark canyon
#

Looks better, how would 8 look?

fair shuttle
#

we need to stop, before we go too far

spark canyon
#

I think that's a good font, we should go with that

fair shuttle
#

1px would be perfect for a hidden thing

#

neuro clicker as part of the ARG

spark canyon
#

That almost looks like an intended UI element

fair shuttle
#

or rather an unintended broken line of code

spark canyon
#

It does look kinda funny

fair shuttle
#

here's 8.5px

spark canyon
#

Looks pretty much identical to 8. I'm pretty sure it doesn't support float fonts

fair shuttle
#

basically no change, ig it doesn't care for decimals

spark canyon
#

Exactly what I just said

fair shuttle
#

yuh 7 is too small

spark canyon
#

Yeah, we should go with 8

#

Did you fix the valentines milk by the way?

fair shuttle
#

i did not for the life of me find it

#

in the latest version of your main.js

spark canyon
#

It should be on the bottom of the list that exists around the line number I said

#

Or maybe it's an array

#

Unless something was different about how your version of the file was displayed

fair shuttle
#

i think we just scrap the idea

spark canyon
#

That's not the right file

fair shuttle
#

oof

spark canyon
#

Should be below here

fair shuttle
#

i redownloaded, nothing there

spark canyon
#

I downloaded it and here it is

#

Did you make sure it didn't download as "main(x).js", where x is an intager

fair shuttle
#

that just adds the valentines milk into the selector, which i had done already

spark canyon
#

No, that's the automatic milk code

#

I'm pretty sure it is at least

fair shuttle
#

but then why would there be icons

spark canyon
#

Probably for the stats menu

fair shuttle
#

also, just adding it in the list doesn't make it get selected at valentine's

spark canyon
#

I added some code to a part of the code that uses this list to set the milk

fair shuttle
#

could you show me that?

spark canyon
fair shuttle
#

just put in the number

spark canyon
#

I guess that could work for the indexed access, but that's not where the error is

fair shuttle
#

vscode finds no errors

#

though your original edits had one error

#

you used ; instead of ,

#

which i fixed now

spark canyon
#

Ok, that explains the one error I had

#

Does it work with the season switcher?

fair shuttle
#

i just checked with a minor edit, the auto now works

spark canyon
#

Cool. Can you make a build of it?

fair shuttle
#

the switch doesn't work yet

spark canyon
#

Which switch?

#

Can you send the code so I can look at it?

fair shuttle
#

could you send me your save real quick?

#

i fucked mine again

spark canyon
fair shuttle
#

this doesn't change milk

spark canyon
#

So it's still somewhat broken

#

But I guess it's better, since it doesn't override your milk

#

I think

fair shuttle
#

i'll bhe gone for dinner now

spark canyon
#

Ok

#

This build doesn't have the new imperfectCookie.png

#

And this works for me

#

It works perfectly with the season switcher

fair shuttle
#

wait

#

no that works

#

i am confuzzled

spark canyon
#

Javascript be inconsistent as usual

fair shuttle
#

the hearts don't go away

spark canyon
#

They do for me

fair shuttle
#

for some reason the season won't end

spark canyon
#

Did click on the season again?

fair shuttle
#

yes, obviously

#

reloading works, but that's it

spark canyon
#

It works perfectly for me

fair shuttle
#

oh i think i know what happened (now it works for me too)

#

i just hadn't reloaded after reverting my season test, which made most of the year valentines

spark canyon
#

Makes sense

#

The version is wrong by the way

fair shuttle
#

yes, because this is a tiny build and i want to do a bit more

#

i should've added the _early

spark canyon
#

Yeah, that would have made sense

fair shuttle
spark canyon
#

What did you do? That looks like only the index.html

fair shuttle
#

nevermind i was in the wrong folder

#

in the zip

#

so, everything works and the new update log exists. problem is that the lag is back

spark canyon
#

I have no idea what could be the cause of the lag

fair shuttle
spark canyon
#

Cool

spark canyon
#

Even Orteil knows

#

I think this is the part responsible for the text "cookies" here, but it gets it from somewhere in the Javascript so changing it just breaks the game

spark canyon
spark canyon
fair shuttle
spark canyon
#

Oh, nevermind then

#

I thought that part was still vanilla

fair shuttle
#

nah, since on normal cc everything goes smoothly with similar wait times

#

because in those cases it's orteils servers which take their time

spark canyon
#

Ok then. I finally managed to get it to say "Neuros" instead of "cookies" as the currency by the way

spark canyon
#

This should be the chicken nuggets rant

#

There we go

#

How is this broken again?

fair shuttle
#

so that's what those are

spark canyon
#

What are you talking about specifically?

fair shuttle
#

oh look, it's the favicon

fair shuttle
spark canyon
#

What is "ye" in this case?

#

Oh, ok

fair shuttle
#

a bad keyboard

spark canyon
#

Did you get the fixed main.js, it has some important fixes

fair shuttle
#

i did

fair shuttle
spark canyon
#

Ok good. Did you also get the new index.html?

fair shuttle
#

i have now

spark canyon
#

Good, you probably need to redo changing the version string, since I made the fixes on the version of main.js that has the 7_11 version string

#

You could also add patch notes and make a build of it

fair shuttle
#

working on it, thank god i make earlies

spark canyon
#

Ok

fair shuttle
#

i wanna do some iconing again

#

back to the roots, so to say

spark canyon
#

What is it?

fair shuttle
spark canyon
#

Ok

#

Sounds good

fair shuttle
#

i am conflicted
on one hand, this goes much easier on my eyes. on the other, it makes choosing colours a nightmare since i have no idea how they look normally

#

thankfully these cookie badges have their colours already icked out for me

spark canyon
#

Looks good. Fits the rest of the textures

fair shuttle
#

i found an issue with night light mode
it makes everything easier on the eyes, except for any red/pink/orange tones which it boosts a lot

#

how perculiar

#

anyways~

spark canyon
#

Maybe it's just trying to get rid of as much blue light as possible

spark canyon
fair shuttle
spark canyon
#

I think that's good

fair shuttle
spark canyon
#

I think these upscaled versions of those icons look pretty good.

fair shuttle
#

now i got it too

spark canyon
#

I just thought we could add our own really long upgrade name in place of the one Orteil made

#

It is pretty funny that it exists

fair shuttle
#

it was a great idea

spark canyon
#

I thought so

#

I still need the chicken nuggets rant on the Neuro rants website though, but I don't know the date when it happened

fair shuttle
#

since we have a wrench already, i changed the settings icon too

spark canyon
#

What settings icon? I don't think the game has one

fair shuttle
#

the purple glowing wrench

spark canyon
#

Where is it used though?

#

Is it something for the debug mode?

fair shuttle
#

i don't think it's in debug

#

and even if it's unused, all i had to do was put purple around it so who cares

#

have a clover

spark canyon
#

Yeah, if it's used, that's done, if not, who cares

spark canyon
prime barn
#

Is there a to-do list or something I can help with

#

Like some sprites to do

fair shuttle
#

there is no list, we just do things we feel like doing

prime barn
#

OK what is left then

fair shuttle
#

a lot

spark canyon
#

Can you change all the text in the game?

#

It's in main.js

prime barn
#

Ah and that would require doing it all at once unless we hot potato a file right, I see the issue

fair shuttle
#

that would be a big help actually, but before you do anything i want to know how skilled oyu are at coding (just so you can differentiate between what is text that can be changed and what is not)

#

and we do hot potato the file

prime barn
#

Well I have a bit of experience with coding but I was actually looking to help with sprites

fair shuttle
#

spriting could use some help too

prime barn
spark canyon
#

All help is accepted

fair shuttle
#

do you think you could do a good job with these backgrounds?

spark canyon
fair shuttle
spark canyon
#

And make every reference consistent

#

Yeah, that too, I forgot that part

prime barn
#

Sure I can do that. I said I have a bit of experience with coding but what I mean by that is like, amateur level in what like 7 or 10 languages

prime barn
fair shuttle
#

there's many

#

it's also good to have someone suggest things

prime barn
#

Those are.... a lot bigger than what I've done

#

Also wait do we even have ideas for what to replace them with

spark canyon
#

We have basically none

prime barn
#

Oh

spark canyon
prime barn
#

danke

fair shuttle
#

aye, a fellow german

prime barn
#

No just someone with a father who took German class lol

fair shuttle
#

oh

#

welp

prime barn
#

Sorry mein Freund

fair shuttle
#

changing these is a daunting task as well...

prime barn
#

Yeah for an example of what I have experience with I made my icon, are there any like minimalistic UI elements or something that people are too bored to do

fair shuttle
#

i mean, making icons is what i did when i first joined, i'm currently working on them

prime barn
#

I'm also probably not the best to do the text because while I have (if I say so myself) an excellent command over the English language, I am relatively new to Neuro, as of early December, so I'm not as familiar with all the references that belong in the text.

fair shuttle
#

incredibly helpful would be suggestions for references we can turn the remaining base icons into

#

oh nevermind then

prime barn
#

lol

#

I'm becoming slowly immersed in the culture but I am not yet a nuero anthropologist

fair shuttle
prime barn
#

Now that I can do

fair shuttle
#

no i mean

#

we need to find ideas for the yellow markered icons

prime barn
#

Ohh

#

I see

#

Hm

#

The bag could be a gymbag of course unless something else prominent is already gymbag

#

What upgrade does it correspond to?

spark canyon
#

It's the bank

fair shuttle
#

once we have those we can cross all this red out (recolours)

#

oh banks could be gyms

#

that's genious

prime barn
#

Perfect

fair shuttle
#

see, such ideas we need

#

just 6 more

prime barn
#

I'm a little nervous to try making the sprite but where is the sheet located anyway

fair shuttle
#

this'll be your test, so to say

prime barn
#

Clock can be time god related

fair shuttle
#

i'll give you the sprite strip

prime barn
#

What does the prism looking thing correspond to?

spark canyon
#

It's for the prism(obviously)

prime barn
#

Well unless it has too specific of a function that could be an emotional diamond

#

Unless that's already used

spark canyon
#

We can literally change stuff to whatever we want, but it would be preferred to have something similar to what is in-game

fair shuttle
fair shuttle
fair shuttle
#

keep the icons in frame, since the game doesn't scale them

spark canyon
fair shuttle
#

here's the reference again for what to change them into

#

do your best

#

(bank is gymbag) (ignore yellow markings on the ref)

prime barn
#

The watering can is related to the farms right

fair shuttle
#

yes, but you're not supposed to change it as we haven't gotten an idea yet

#

do you have an idea?

prime barn
#

Trying to think of one

fair shuttle
#

i'll have to shut off the pc soon, and sleep in about an hour (then it's 24:00)

#

i'll see how the icons turn out when they're ready, but don't feel pressured as haste just leads to worse results

#

(i sometimes only finish an icon a day)

prime barn
#

Yea I'll focus on the gymbag for now, although honestly it might be funny just to put a horribly compressed version of the gymbag emote as the icon

fair shuttle
#

rather not

prime barn
#

Yea I'll do better than that

fair shuttle
#

we did that for the hearts already since it fit, but i like the art being custom

#

the twitch emotes have very little detail, but the gymbag is pretty detailed

#

and we're not going for a Pepega-esque feel

prime barn
#

What are the dimensions of each sprite?

#

20x20?

fair shuttle
#

gimme a sec

prime barn
#

Oh and some are double resolution

fair shuttle
#

48x48 for all of them

#

just open the png in paint

prime barn
#

Nah I have GIMP

spark canyon
fair shuttle
#

well, i like paint more for pixel art, but you do you as long as the resolution, boundaries and style stay the same

prime barn
#

Alright I can do 48x48 then, I'll make sure it fits nicely as well, I notice most of the original icons don't use up all the space

fair shuttle
#

yep

prime barn
#

Is there a version of Paint that has layers? Because honestly I'd be down for that if that existed

fair shuttle
#

and my edits don't either because i usually put a translucent gray plane above and orient myself at the originals

spark canyon
#

It can be installed on 10 though, which I have done

prime barn
#

Oh that's neat if so

#

Best reason to switch to W11 I've heard yet btw

spark canyon
#

It's not a good one though, since 11 has so many major issues

#

I'd say just install paint 11 on Win10

prime barn
#

Yeah I'll look into that

spark canyon
#

The one I used

prime barn
#

For making the gymbag icon I'm just gonna use gimp tho I'm already started lol

spark canyon
#

Ok, whatever works

fair shuttle
spark canyon
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Looks good

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At least as good as these low resolution textures feasibly can

fair shuttle
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i think i'll end it here for today, as much as i want to continue working (if my parents find out i'm on the pc this late they'll kill me)

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halfway on the ascension line

spark canyon
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Well, ok then. We can continue tomorrow

fair shuttle
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just one hotfix, now the 2nd outer circle is a bit rounder

prime barn
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vedalWave be well and sleep well, in an hour I guess!

spark canyon
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That does look better

fair shuttle
spark canyon
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Those look pretty good. Maybe one of the coins on the fourth one could be a little rounder, but otherwise it's good