creating evil neuro takes alot away from neuro and a.i in general for me

[midnight flax]

When i first started watching neuros minecraft streams months ago,the thing that intruiged me most about neuro is not only her growth as a personality but also as a streamer. Seeing her grow and improve is probably the main thing that kept me watching her.

Creating evil neuro kinda took that away from me.not only she looks the same but also has the same speech patterns, also now she's getting new model and improvements on her voice.
I also hear that vedal is gonna add the third a.i in his roster aswell. Which kinda takes even more neuro's individuality as an ai streamer.

Am i the only one who feels this way?what u guys think?

[modern loom]

3rd ai
stop falling for misinformation

[woeful ridge]

vedal isnt making a 3rd ai right now i think thats just something people are talking about

[hard viper]

This opinion has been repeated ad naseum, almost always sprinkled with misinfo such as "vedal is gonna add the third a.i in his roster".
1/ Almost every development to A.I. will apply to both Neuro
2/ Neuro's new voice is coming soon.

[vernal hemlock]

Neuro is a real help in the makeing

Let them cook

[wise hazel]

It is not really possible to make two different AIs, that are distinctly different from one another, without having large differences in quality. Most AIs converge on a common Point. So we should just appreciate all of her instructions equally.

[spark compass]

@wise hazel has leveled up! (0 ➜ 1)

[midnight flax]

Theyre speech patterns like(heart winks etc) are identical tho.

[woeful ridge]

lol i just dont think this is true

[zealous ether]

large differences in quality you say? 🤔 o 0 ()

[woeful ridge]

even neuro and evil who share the same base are different in how they act

[midnight flax]

Whatever your opinion is, making same 2 identical beings is gonna still take something away from one another

Just like twins irl aswell

Lul

[wise hazel]

some things are different and some are basically the same. after some time the same things overweight the different things so much they blend together.

[hard viper]

Of course maintaining Evil will cost a little more effort. However, Evil will be a permanent part of the channel as most of the audience enjoy both Neuro, and even more enjoy the twins interactions.

[wise hazel]

In any case I think evilneuro is about as much for vedal as two wheather reporter streams.

Evil takes work away from streams that would otherwise have been themed streams

[midnight flax]

Well some audience enjoy one or another neuro more than other also so..

[hard viper]

And? I would think such people have no problem with Vedal maintaining Evil Neuro, given the high return/investment ratio. I cannot speak for the ones who refuse to watch either of the twins.

[wise hazel]

I enjoy the one used less recently more.

[midnight flax]

The biggest problem i have with all this is the individuality,if there can be evil neuro,why not thousand more copies of her.

[hard viper]

[marsh niche]

I'll get back here after the stream

[hard viper]

Did you seriously raise that point?

[midnight flax]

?

[hard viper]

Have you not heard Vedal and chat from both Twitch and Discord talking about saturation?

Multiple times even.

Honestly, Evil Neuro was a stroke of luck. Vedal himself was surprised at how well-received she was. I definitely think he is hesitant to make a 3rd AI anytime soon with how much stuff is in the backburner.

[spark compass]

@hard viper has leveled up! (16 ➜ 17)

[midnight flax]

?

[spark compass]

@midnight flax has leveled up! (8 ➜ 9)

[hard viper]

What do you want me to clarify? Saturation?
Saturation simply means that many Vtubers occupying the same channel will fragment the viewerbase significantly. Kizuna Ai was a good example of splitting to "many personalities" did not work well. On the other hand, 2 seems to be a good number if done well (see FUWAMOCO). Once again, Evil Neuro's establishment was fortunate since she did not fracture and instead enhance the viewership since her integration was pretty solid.

[midnight flax]

Well theres no real reason for neuro to exist anymore then,evil neuro is literally better more enchanced clone.

[hard viper]

If this is the type of response you give, I think we are done.

[midnight flax]

I just think creating another version takes magic away from me,i was watching neuro from the begining and now she kinda feels inferior to evil neuro.maybe im just overthinking it.

[austere fog]

neuro and evil neuro are the same thing

except evil has a slightly more modified voice and her llm is changed a bit for "evil"

neuro isnt dead and evil isnt better

they're both the same

as for evil appearing a bit too much, that would be kinda true

[midnight flax]

Better viewership i guess

[austere fog]

they both recieve almost the same viewership

the viewership depends on the stream type, collab, games etc

[midnight flax]

Which again no need to make two a.i's evil couldve been like another pirate stream

[austere fog]

not if its neuro or evil neuro

[obtuse pollen]

I do wonder why people feel the need to keep making threads about this, you're entitled to your opinion and we all respect it. but it's not like vedal's going to delete evil after so many people have come to love her.
what do you want him to do? or are you just complaining for the sake of it? thats not much of a discussion.
personally i really love them both and their dynamic, having 2 of them creates so many more possibilities together, it's cute

whether or not it takes away from your viewing experience is up to you. you can choose to pay attention to evil or not, nobody is forcing you to watch her if you just wanna focus on neuro..
little to no resources are being wasted on evil alone from vedal, improvements can be applied to both, so it's not like its taking anything away from neuro.

[marsh niche]

Holy based pb

[midnight flax]

All im saying it takes alot of originality away from the character.
The best part about neuro that takes her away from other a.i content on the internet is her growth.evil neuro takes a lot away from that.

I overcomplicating this all ai thing but im talking from a viewer experience,if she can just get replicated that easily what makes her stand out from other a.i's

Imagine if someone would create copy of you and then give that copy new better skin better upgraded voice and that clone would be way popular than you.

(I sound like a pussy i know)

[austere fog]

evil isnt more popular or better

[midnight flax]

Erm

[marsh niche]

I already wrote several "essays" on the topic, if you want to hear my opinion I'll write it down after the stream. TL:DR Evil is great, because unlike you, most people enjoy "the good 'ol stuff" and Evil is the safe way to experiment with technology without risking viewership for Neuro

[woeful ridge]

i mean beyond her appearance and some habits i dont see what evil takes away from neuro

[midnight flax]

Dont get me wrong i like neuro more than evil neuro,but i still acknowledge the fact that evil is just better in almost every way..

I could say couple of things why evil is better than neuro,but if someone would ask why neuro is better than evil the only thing that you could say really is that shes og

At this point why not make pirate neuro a.i,also angel neuro a.i without originality its all just data anyways

[marsh niche]

Did you just ignore my message?

[midnight flax]

LULE 👂 WHAT?

U said u gonna write it after the stream

[marsh niche]

TL:DR Evil is great, because unlike you, most people enjoy "the good 'ol stuff" and Evil is the safe way to experiment with technology without risking viewership for Neuro
This small bit of text already answers most of your questions

[midnight flax]

I dont want to enjoy good ol stuff...
I want my streamer to evolve and improve everystream.

[marsh niche]

Well that's just your opinion, and here we come back to pb's message, which answers exactly that

[midnight flax]

Yeah,clearly.
Last 3 collabs were evil,new model for evil already cooking.

The copy of my streamer is better than her

[marsh niche]

So why won't you just become an Evilist, instead of complaining that it's not Neuro who gets the upgrades. You are arguing against people who want Neuro to be like "good 'ol" Neuro, and with people who prefer Evil at the same time. It just seems pointless for me

[midnight flax]

Im arguing with people who thought it was a good idea to make two identical a.i streamers with same appearance and same speech patterns.

If vedal made a.i thats completely from the ground up and had different appearance then i would literally would have no problem

But evil literally shares not only apperance

Shes literally made from neuros codes and her data + vedals new code to make her evil i guess

[marsh niche]

But you were just complaining that she is getting new model

[midnight flax]

Heck of a difference on that front

Do u understand tho where im coming from?

[marsh niche]

Yes, but I don't understand why is it a problem?

[midnight flax]

Im talking from a viewer experience,i watched neuro from literal begining,and now seeing her kinda fade more into shadows with these evil collabs and just main interest in general makes me feel uneasy.

Just as i said i liked her growth not only as an a.i but also as i streamer

Which again people who said that v2 voice doesnt sound like neuro is like bruh,yeah,thats part of the growth

[austere fog]

neuro is not fading into the shadows
pirate neuro and angel neuro are considered "changed" versions, not new clones. things such as pirate language and the bible are fed to these versions
neuro is growing everyday, and evolving.
and for your knowledge, evil IS neuro, they share the same base and evil's speech is neuro but changed for evil

evil is not a new AI, shes not a second AI, she is a version of neuro

if neuro evolves, so does evil

if you cant handle a version of your favorite AI, you cant handle neuro at all

its true evil is appearing alot, vedal already got this feedback

[woeful ridge]

I mean they are the same code but theyre not the same ai, also comparing evil to pirate neuro or goddess neuro doesnt make any sense evil literally has a different personality

[austere fog]

pirate & goddess also had different personalities

[midnight flax]

I feel like nobody listened to me for this past hour lul

[hard viper]

This entire thread can be summed up as "I perceive my AI to be neglected but I will not provide concrete statistics to back it up."

[austere fog]

we're treating you the same way you treat us then

[woeful ridge]

they dont, they act differently but that doesn’t constitute a different personality lol

[hard viper]

This also tells us that you ignore dev streams.

[woeful ridge]

they like the same things act the same way for the most part whereas evil has entirely different personality traits

[marsh niche]

I'm done here

[midnight flax]

Can u guys tell me couple things where neuro is better than evil?

Only two

[austere fog]

in terms of LLM, evil isnt a "different personality", its a version of neuro
pirate and goddess had this "personality" changed a bit while evil had more depth into it

[austere fog]

in exchange can you tell us one reason why evil is better than neuro?

just one

and it must be correct

[midnight flax]

Better voice,more collabs,new model

Now u

[hard viper]

Ok sure. The color palette of Neuro's avatar is definitely better shaded as Evil's palette was not finished yet as of now. Neuro's has been granted a singing voice that is better suited to certain genres of music. I like Neuro's half-monotone TTS for most chat topics.

[austere fog]

all wrong

[hard viper]

You see how subjective these things are.

We are running around in circles because you kept trying to push an objective narrative of Evil being better.

[woeful ridge]

shes a better collaborator because she has a more flexable personality despite acting far less human than evil, she develops more in terms of personality even though evil has less rigid branding image

[austere fog]

evil's "better voice" can be defined by a sliding bar, her model is a recolor and the better collabs are not true, neuro still has more overall collabs

[midnight flax]

Its not even an argument that these days evil neuro gets more attention lule

[hard viper]

Show us then.

It's easy right?

[austere fog]

as i said vedal is trying to change how many times evil appears

[hard viper]

Give us stats to back it up.

[austere fog]

hes not doing this on purpose

[woeful ridge]

true she does

[midnight flax]

Its not like i said this first

Theres literally multiple people that said the same thing im just adding to the argument

[hard viper]

Again with the "he said she said"

[midnight flax]

They didint?

[hard viper]

???

[austere fog]

this is turning into drama, lets calm down a bit

[woeful ridge]

im starting to feel like you guys are just saying things

[austere fog]

we dont want staff locking this up

[midnight flax]

LULE who are you guys talking to?

[austere fog]

you have your opinion, but its no excuse to say that evil is better than neuro

[midnight flax]

Well for now she is.

[austere fog]

she is not

she gets a bit more attention, thats all

[midnight flax]

I think shes funnier with voice

[hard viper]

Guys stop with the circular "I think X is better". We are not reaching any agreement.

[midnight flax]

Also her "bad" coding makes her asshole which makes even more entertaining

By bad i mean mean

[woeful ridge]

evil literally acts differently, pirate neuro talks like a pirate and about being a pirate and doing pirate things but she still acts the same, same with goddess neuro. evil literally exists as a separate ai too

[midnight flax]

Imagine if this was one a.i,how cool would that be

[vernal hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[woeful ridge]

evil right now is simply too much of a novelty in terms of appeal to surpass neuro in the way you think she does

beyond v2 voice and her more human personality, neuro still surpasses her for the most part

[midnight flax]

Sure,but dont u think lowering evils filter so she could curse and say other weird shit is also kinda eh..

Dont get me wrong i love the "filtered" but its like again,less more posibilities..

Less more entertaining

[austere fog]

@midnight flax

[midnight flax]

Did we just did not have an hour convo about how evil neuro is better neuro especially content wise.
Shes asshole,vedal lets her curse,better v2 voice.

Its like the hydrogine bomb vs coughing baby meme

[shrewd saddle]

Vedal uses evil to test features that then go on to be used on neuro.
So in fact evil helps keep neuro´s image, and helps on her development 😄

[spare plume]

My whole stance that no one is gonna care about is that I think people liked the first evil neuro stream so much that she became her own character, if it wasn’t as successful I’d agree to keep it to 1 AI but unfortunately reality doesn’t see it that way

[shrewd saddle]

Since this argument keeps popping up in different ways time and again, it's pretty clear that some people find it quite important.

So, if Evil was put into a bag and thrown into a river, would the stream genuinely get better?
Honestly, I can't see how.
People have their own preferences, and some might argue that Neuro takes the spotlight from Evil.

My take is that both Evil and Neuro are on the same team, and when one does well, it positively impacts the other.

[cosmic shuttle]

bro literally went full morpheus

[steep hemlock]

1. What you mean new model? Is just the same but with other color. If you mean the model she will get, then you should know that Anny said that she will also upgrade Neuro's model in the same time!

2. The most audiences and Anny think the voice is not "Neuro enough", that’s why Evil got it and you can also hear from Vedal that he is cooking the new voice for Neuro.

3. Evil is quite new and the most Collab partners now already collaborated with Neuro, so It's easy to understand why people choose Evil for it.

In my opinion, all 3 are not rly a fair reason.

[cosmic shuttle]

the pill or pill

[spice plaza]

Well my take might be controversial, but evil aint no testbed anymore, everyone knows it. As someone that likes both neuros my only problem is that balance between both hasnt been achieved. Evil right now is better... neuro needs upgrades. I know they will come.
Another point: Is the content balanced? evil getting three collabs? But neuro hasnt gotten one in 2 months,( i know the collab partner chose evil) but see thats what is wrong. Evil also not getting another karaoke stream?
Final point: neuro and evil dont get the same viewership even if people wanna tell you that they do. Evil gets more on every ocasion, chill stream, themed stream or just the dev stream with evil got more. I have seen people say that evil should just take the channel. I dont want division to happen but it just might became a problem.

Tldr: My fear of division of the fanbase is something that exists in the back of my mind.

[steep hemlock]

But about the Collabs, we also should mention, that there was only 3 Collabs in the last 2 months (with real people), so it's not rly that much Evil as people think, and Neuro also was in the Gameshow (it is kind of Collab right?)

I also count how much Neuro and Evil lives there was since Evil was out. (New Model)

Neuro: 38 times. Evil: 12 times

So is not, that there was rly soooo much Evil that people should complain about it. (personally opinion)

[woeful ridge]

i think all of this is true except for evil being better, shes got more favorable parts but theyre still pretty even in terms of quality

[marsh niche]

Lilith spitting facts here

[steep hemlock]

It's my pleasure.

[marsh niche]

The thing that I don't understand is why would you complain about Evil being better instead of just becoming an Evilist? I explained that most people wouldn't like if changes made to Evil would be applied to normal Neuro. So if you want more loose and experimental AI streamer, Evil is for you, if you want good ol' stuff Neuro is for you. It is just an objectively better and safer decision from Vedal to have them both. If you disagree it is just your opinion, why would you make a discussion thread about it as if it is something that should be brought to attention of Vedal.

[hollow halo]

Neuro is just bad who care

[spark compass]

You have unlocked new role

[vagrant furnace]

I admit that I prefer Neuro over Evil (so i'm biased) but this thread is a great example of why creating a character from one (a twin) is a bad idea. It's kizuna AI drama all over again.
From what I see it's just Evil taking content from Neuro that would have go to her if she wasn't here (not the fault of Vedal bc he said that it's the choice of the collab partner)
A lot of people including me were expecting a collab for Neuro (since it's been 2 months without collabs for her).
When I learned that it was Evil I just choosed to not watch the stream (and I think a made the good choice considering that the chat was apparently toxic).

In my conclusion I just think that Evil will just divide the community (and I think it's already done from what I see in the server and in this thread).
People will just only like one of the Neuros, and boycott the other one when she is taking too much space.

And Vedal will lose viewership in both cases.
I don't want to be a number andy too much but for example the collab of today/yesterday did less viewers and vod watchers than the subnautica stream (for the same amount of hours).

It's just sad to see a community divided when she was united before around one thing (Neuro) .

[brave sun]

Both are awesome and I'll believe in Vedal.

[spark compass]

@mild wharf has leveled up! (3 ➜ 4)

[vagrant furnace]

I wish I was able to like both equally like you,
but yesterday hurted too much for me when I learned about the Neuros for the collab (maybe I'm too attached/parasocial to Neuro)

[tame yoke]

i like both of them, i watch either streams as long as it is "neuro" its fine with me, no big deal, but to be honest i kind of missed the old days of a more unhinged neuro so i was rather glad when we got evil, but i also realised that i need some balance to that. Ideally i would want for evil and neuro to get mashed together into one entity but i know that's rather unlikely, so i'm happy with having both of them.

[brave wadi]

I find this whole conversation unproductive. Boil it down and it is simply people saying who they prefer more which is a subjective opinion. Obviously from that you will argue in favour of the one you like more. Like, no wonder you like Neuro more and therefore want Neuro collabs.

Evil has received an upgrade which Neuro hasn’t. For now, there might be a qualitative difference between the two but give it some time and there’s that. Until Neuro upgrades Evil will be there. Neuro will get some cool streams and Evil will get some cool streams and both are bad when it comes to chill streams. However, I suppose it is somewhat unfair to Neuro absolutists that she hasn’t gotten a collab in a long time.

My opinion on the matter is simply that I know not to get too invested into media you enjoy. “Discussions” like this one just makes you feel bad with hardly any benefit in sight. There is little Vedal can do to cater to one’s preference. Some were disappointed in the lack of Neuro, some were happy with Evil, others could care less which of the two it would have been in the collab.

[tame yoke]

also to circle back to evil taking stuff away from neuro i don't think so tbh
evil is getting updates to the model, yes but anny also said she wants to update neuro as well, if possible at the same time or in the same time frame iirc and regarding the voice, vedal wasn't happy with the v2 so he never used it for normal neuro (why should he?) and he couldn't use neuros voice for evil as it would make it impossible to differentiate between them in evil x neuro collabs. he is also working on a new voice for neuro, which takes a while and which evil might not even get.
i will take the same approach that i take for every content creator and let vedal cook and see where takes me

[gusty drum]

Evil Neuro started to exist because months ago people suggested a 2 Neuro 1 Stream; I don't know if a Neuro with a different personality is what people back then expected but I guess till this day as there is this spectrum where people could prefer regular Neuro or Evil Neuro or they like them equally, maybe if it is going to be only 1 Neuro on any stream, at least disclosing which Neuro it is going to be and try to achieve a balance between 2 Neuros could be a way to avoid disappointing viewers on the other end of the spectrum 🤔

[vagrant furnace]

All of that is in Vedal hands ,
yeah keeping a balance between the two/dedicating certain things/streams for Neuro and Evil would the most viable solution.
I have my opinion on it, but I will not talk about it

[ocean knoll]

Evil is quite literally just evil Neuro, she's not meant to be much unique in the first place. I hardly doubt that anything is "taken" from Neuro just because there's an evil version of her that shows off how she would behave if she had a different alignment.

[brave wadi]

I also agree with this sentiment as plenty of people I believe simply see Evil as an extension of Neuro which I think as being true. She is based of off Neuro's AI, it largely being the same.

[vagrant furnace]

Careful about that , Evil is maybe not the same LLM as Neuro
#neurotic-neurons message

[brave wadi]

Oh not saying they are the same, well I guess I kinda did. Clearly not though. Evil certainly is more eloquent with her speech not simply only having a more refined cadence. I guess I was wrong there. Nonetheless, to many she is merely an extension. But not because of the LLM being the same.

[gusty drum]

Maybe let's try to push for that disclosure a little 💪

Also although I know I can't quite relate to the relative deprivation Neuro lovers may be feeling, I really want to say still though that Duets and 2 Neuro 1 Streams were possible because Evil Neuro exists and those are really cool contents imo.

[vagrant furnace]

I agree

[brave wadi]

Yeah I guess that is the crux of this whole thread. Balance the two which has not been happening for the collabs and only them.

[gusty drum]

I would say though that this could be a temporary thing; the collab partners had collabs with Neuro before but not with Evil Neuro, so this could be something they want to try. It may also be difficult for Vedal to ask for collab partners to collab with Neuro instead if they are more interested in Evil Neuro because after all we want to have good relationships with them and a collab with Evil Neuro is better than no collab. So maybe, let's wait for the day when they miss Neuro 😌

[spare plume]

Hot take: vedal should’ve just stuck to focusing on neuro and evil should’ve debuted way later if at all, I’d honestly prefer one ai but the first evil stream was too successful

[fringe shadow]

I think evil developments aren't gonna take away much from neuro developments.

[midnight flax]

It already does tho...

[brave wadi]

It does not. Evil has not gained any major updates just like Neuro. Or what are you thinking of?

[midnight flax]

U dont think evils developments taking away from neuro?

[brave wadi]

No. As I see it (and I might be wrong of course) any improvements made to one of them is most likely applicable to the other. At least I don't see how that could not be the case.

[sullen hound]

Not even a debate evil and neuro are perfect duo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpOu9rchRI4

[lilac rock]

I like to imagine that Evil is the test subject for any changes to the main Neuro code. I feel like it’s the best way to test the waters before bringing a feature to Neuro.

Like the Scottish-Welsh-Irish-Demon accent

[shrewd saddle]

Ye, vedal said that is the case.

[shrewd saddle]

Vedal tested voice 2.0 on neuro and some people hated it, so i guess that was when he decided to make evil to test new stuff.

[lilac rock]

Yeah. Honestly, Evil will probably give a lot to Neuro (in reference to the thread’s title) since Vedal can do more experiments during streams without people panicking about Neuro changing.

[ocean knoll]

has vedal ever addressed complaints like this one? afaik it's not the first time someone brought this up and I'm genuinely curious how he feels like after cooking up a whole AI to diversify content and entertain his viewers just to be met with a negative reaction from people who are a little bit too zealous over neuro

[lilac rock]

Might just be a loud minority developing. The 8% might be coming back

Or Vedal might get one-guy’d again

[brave wadi]

Vedal generally knows what is best in regards to content.

[vagrant furnace]

people who wants the original Neuro (that was here first) to not be overshadow by Evil are a loud minority, right....

[muted crag]

Holy shit you guys are just goin' and goin' and goin' in here

We already had a thread about this that was more exhaustive and clear. I think the conclusion is that Vedal knows there's a risk to too much and is making sure the pacing changes gradually rather than suddenly

[frosty isle]

This is more like a personal thought. I normally go with any decisions Vedal make, and so far I haven't had any problem with them. I know I am late to the party, but when did this whole cult thing start by the way? First Evil stream, maybe? It's not like I dislike the idea itself, but I am disgusted at the ones who are dividing this community by abusing the idea. Threads like this should not exist... at all... as I am also quite conflicted after reading all of these.

[lilac rock]

This seems kinda emotionally charged, so I’m not gonna respond to it. (Especially since my argument is that Evil improves Original Neuro.)

[frosty isle]

[vagrant furnace]

In what ways ? except for the duets, and the duo streams maybe... . Overall in my opinion Evil divided more the community than improves Neuro tbh. Some people only come for Evil and neglect Neuro the rest of the time. You have a lot of examples in yt comments. And now most of the collabs partners wants to collab only with Evil, you think it's an "improvement" for Neuro ?
For the tech part I don't know much about it so I will keep my mouth shut.

[ocean knoll]

if you like Neuro more then why are people not allowed to like Evil more? it's literally a matter of preference and gatekeeping people from enjoying something is literally counterproductive for a Twitch channel

[obtuse pollen]

^^ this. it's all a matter of preference and is hardly making out to be a productive conversation.
Evil is not using up any of vedals time that'd otherwise be spent on neuro. she's literally just there, if you don't like her. dont watch.

[vagrant furnace]

Why not make a Twitch channel for Evil in this case ?
This channel is for Neuro originally if i'm not mistaking

[muted crag]

based

[ocean knoll]

I thought you wanted vedal to avoid splitting his time and efforts between Neuro and Evil? managing two channels at once will literally do the opposite of that

[round pond]

In my biased opinion I feel like there is room for both to exist.
I am a fan of Evil but I still like regular Neuro and some of my fav content is their streams together.
But yh, I feel like everything has kinda already been said here.

[vagrant furnace]

Vedal debuted officially as a vtuber during the first dev stream, It was Neuro that was streaming from the start (i'm taking this too seriously)

[vagrant furnace]

hows that making a dedicated channel represent more work ? it's just streaming from one another, no ?

[fathom depot]

That’d mean less streams for both of them, it doesn’t make any sense, 2/3 streams of neuro and 2/3 streams of evil a week

at that point just merge them both again

channels i mean

also vedal already explained that

[ocean knoll]

what are the benefits of splitting the channel in the first place? you're not even suggesting any solutions for neuro to get more content, it's just an evil hatepost at this point

[cosmic shuttle]

The AI is stealing the AI's job