Below Zero Mod

[bitter viper]

sure

[trail sleet]

i have to replace nautilus and bepinex

[snow tendon]

Also should we make a new DISCUSSION or just use this one?

[snow tendon]

y

[trail sleet]

even if old one works, we have to add these for bz features

[bitter viper]

bepinex should be the same

[trail sleet]

and nautilus isnt working on my end

[snow tendon]

poggggg

[trail sleet]

nexus mod just told me to install bepinex

also alex wanna quickly join voice chat

since you're back as mod

theres something you should listen

[snow tendon]

Lets join an empty vc to talk about the mod

People are talking about GUNPOWSER

[bitter viper]

should we move?

[snow tendon]

Lmao they dont even see alex

[trail sleet]

your choice

im fine here

[snow tendon]

When people cannot see the schizo

[trail sleet]

ECC and Nautilus work on bz

assetloader script has to be changed

private static readonly Dictionary<string, Atlas.Sprite> _atlasSpriteCache = new();

out of the other 2, this one is giving errors

it cant load icons

thats the issue

[snow tendon]

;-;

THe fix it

[snow tendon]

WWhat but its just a fixed storage space...all it does is call up images by name why dosent it work

[trail sleet]

man

what if you didnt talk

[snow tendon]

Why

;-; What am I missing

[bitter viper]

darkeew you cant just build the sn mod and expect it to work for bz

you have to build it as a bz mod

[snow tendon]

lmao

[trail sleet]

how

wheres the "build for bz" button

[snow tendon]

Do you have the BZ game?

[trail sleet]

nah i dont, thats why im installing the mod for bz

[snow tendon]

Dude

Alex have you branched

[bitter viper]

change Subnautica.GameLibs to Subnautica.BelowZero.GameLibs in csproj

also you need a different version of nautilus (not sure if ecc is the same version or not)

[trail sleet]

already did that

[bitter viper]

i havent made a branch yet but i will make one tomorrow

[trail sleet]

not this

wheres that

[bitter viper]

SCHIZO.csproj

[trail sleet]

"csproj"

[bitter viper]

🤢 visual studio

[snow tendon]

You want me to do it then pull

[trail sleet]

my man alex you also use vs

how many clips of proof do you want

[bitter viper]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-lol-the-simpsons-marge-lisa-gif-8714260

wait @true lintel i hope you dont use vs as well

[trail sleet]

laugh while you can, im not the one whos gonna have to develop the mod

[true lintel]

buy me rider then i won't

[bitter viper]

bro im using a student license

[snow tendon]

lmao

[bitter viper]

im not even buying rider for myself

[snow tendon]

BRO

[trail sleet]

oh

rider

[bitter viper]

WHAT ITS 15 EUROS A MONTH FOR RIDER

damn

[snow tendon]

RIPBOZO

[trail sleet]

so

[snow tendon]

so

[bitter viper]

30 euros for all - clion/datagrip/intellij/phpstorm/pycharm/rider/rubymine/webstorm

[true lintel]

vs is perfectly serviceable and it's not my stockholm syndrome speaking

[snow tendon]

yea but

[bitter viper]

waiting for the vs solution to load

[bitter viper]

https://tenor.com/view/death-skelly-move-ball-gif-18688511

[snow tendon]

xD

[true lintel]

man who last used vs in 2003

[bitter viper]

i last used vs a few months ago cuz i needed its debugger to attach it to among us

[snow tendon]

RIP Dignity

[bitter viper]

i found out later that rider had a perfectly working debugger aswell that i could attach

[trail sleet]

i just have to reinstall it every month

[snow tendon]

RIP DEBUGGING SKILLS

[trail sleet]

:D

[thorn furnace]

aren't you a student

[bitter viper]

also its incredible to me how you can attach a debugger to among us (il2cpp game) without any issues, but you cant attach a debugger to subnautica (which is mono)

[snow tendon]

Isnt alex like 30

[bitter viper]

what

[snow tendon]

xD

[true lintel]

[snow tendon]

xD

[trail sleet]

alex

i have rider

what do i do

[snow tendon]

Some things cannot be explained

Anyways can you entrust me with some stuff too?

[bitter viper]

i was about to say something but i remembered that discord bans accounts that claim they are under 13 even if they are joking so i will not say that

[snow tendon]

xD

[bitter viper]

its not about entrusting you with stuff

if you want to contribute go ahead

open pull requests

[trail sleet]

this is better than vs

[bitter viper]

i will merge them (if they are good)

[trail sleet]

no wonder why you were grossed out alex

[bitter viper]

i converted darkeew so easily

i wish i could convert @mortal sun as well

[snow tendon]

Yeah I mean like if you have something you WANT me to do

[trail sleet]

tbh

[bitter viper]

FUCK i did not mean to ping

[trail sleet]

paying for this is

[snow tendon]

OOOOH VEEEDALLLL

[thorn furnace]

rider doesn't have my full name displayed in the corner, unusable

[trail sleet]

alex

prepare another apology video

will see you soon

[wind stratus]

welp

[snow tendon]

lmao

[bitter viper]

its in the license popup under the info dropdown :)

[trail sleet]

alex

now that you have converted me

HOW do i DO THAT THING

[bitter viper]

its fine the problem is that vedal now has this thread followed

[snow tendon]

I guess Deerm is taking over the project now

[bitter viper]

vedal please unfollow the thread and never look at it again

[trail sleet]

get into his account and exit the thread

oh

you can kick people out of the thread

the ping still remains tho

[bitter viper]

oh i can

[ripe drift]

[snow tendon]

I mean like is there anything specific you want me to do

[bitter viper]

wait if i remove someone can they rejoin

lets test it out

[trail sleet]

remove me

[trail sleet]

oh

lmao

[wind stratus]

[sturdy spruce]

[trail sleet]

i see alex

nice move

[snow tendon]

Remove him

WAIT WHAT

[trail sleet]

yeah it doesnt work

[snow tendon]

YOU

[trail sleet]

it just removes from the list

[thorn furnace]

fairs, though admittedly its not as bad as this

[trail sleet]

does the ping stay?

[bitter viper]

i just have to press the button below next time

[trail sleet]

alex ping me and remove me

[bitter viper]

probably

i dont really care about it anyway

[thorn furnace]

oops i didn't mean to ping reply

[trail sleet]

yeah

SO ALEX

that thing

how do i do it

[bitter viper]

WHAT THING

click on SCHIZO

[trail sleet]

THE THING I ASKED YOU ABOUT AND YOU COMPLAINED ABOUT VS SO I SWITCHED TO RIDER

[snow tendon]

Want me to do it

Bro seems clueless

[bitter viper]

you switched to rider very quickly i was surprised by how fast that was

click on SCHIZO and press F4

[trail sleet]

OK WE GET IT

[bitter viper]

i think thats the keybind

yours might be different

[bitter viper]

the other SCHIZO

[trail sleet]

ah

yeah im here

what now

[snow tendon]

xD

[bitter viper]

do what i told you to do earlier

scroll up

[trail sleet]

ok

done

how do i build

found it

[snow tendon]

change Subnautica.GameLibs to Subnautica.BelowZero.GameLibs in csproj
also you need a different version of nautilus (not sure if ecc is the same version or not)

tada

[trail sleet]

glitchy

have you seen the latest subnautica stream

you should go watch now

[snow tendon]

Yeah

I did

[trail sleet]

alex

its a dll

[snow tendon]

Editing with notepad be like

Editing with notepad++ be like

[trail sleet]

so alex

it still doesnt work

:D

[snow tendon]

just edit with a text editor

xD

[trail sleet]

ill edit you with a text editor

[snow tendon]

I'll edit your mum with a text editor

[snow tendon]

I'll try one I'm done downloading vs

[trail sleet]

brother

yeah go ahead

it must be a problem with my game

[snow tendon]

shut up

I mean like is there an error or does it just refuse

[trail sleet]

both

[snow tendon]

What does the error say

[trail sleet]

error: refused

[snow tendon]

Thats all it says?

[trail sleet]

yeah

[snow tendon]

;-;

[ember flume]

is it safe to post again?

[snow tendon]

[ember flume]

i guess not ?

[snow tendon]

Uh check ... spelling?

[ember flume]

Todays Model Progress ~

[snow tendon]

OH I FIGURED OUT WHY!

Its becuase you don't have a fkin storage called &whatever the hell you named it*

[trail sleet]

amazing

[snow tendon]

[snow tendon]

vc real quick

[trail sleet]

no

im in bed

bye

[snow tendon]

;-;

ok I will do it then

change Subnautica.GameLibs to Subnautica.BelowZero.GameLibs in csproj
also you need a different version of nautilus (not sure if ecc is the same version or not)

gotta remember this

[bitter viper]

Below Zero Mod (VEDAL DONT OPEN THIS THREAD)

[snow tendon]

Oh wait no wonder it dosent work

Hey alex its this file right
https://github.com/Alexejhero/Vedal-Subnautica-Mod/blob/main/SCHIZO/SCHIZO.csproj

[bitter viper]

yes

[snow tendon]

ok

[bitter viper]

why

[snow tendon]

Since deew is sleepy I work on it

I'll pull later

once im done

[bitter viper]

dont pull request that

[trail sleet]

ill wait for you alex

[bitter viper]

imma do it on stream

cuz there's more things that need to be changed

supposedly

[snow tendon]

oh ok

[trail sleet]

when you port to BZ ill start working on it

or do what i can

[waxen orchid]

Stream content

[snow tendon]

There isnt even a library called subnautica.belowzero thats why its not working

[trail sleet]

maybe i can give you content work with you on stream

[trail sleet]

this is so true

like wtf

[snow tendon]

Bro oc it dosent work why were you complaining then lmao

[trail sleet]

you're right

why am i complaining

[snow tendon]

I fixed it

I change it and pulled

Because it was easy

[trail sleet]

dont pull it

smh

[snow tendon]

;-;

I just realised something. That means we have to rename all the librarys with the name subnautica in them to belowzero.subnautica

And every file as well

[bitter viper]

uhh

no

not rly

[snow tendon]

me too

ok good

[trail sleet]

yeah glitchy should work with you alex

so much work can be done with you two together

[snow tendon]

;-; You have to join too

[trail sleet]

i changed my mind

[snow tendon]

I'm only mediocre and I'm not god a creativity I'm only good at coding when instructions are given

Thats why I dont make games

[trail sleet]

alex can teach you

he told me he'd love to teach you

[snow tendon]

@bitter viper aww thats so sweet lmao

[trail sleet]

[bitter viper]

?

[true lintel]

save the content for the stream

[bitter viper]

darkeew is spreading misinformation

[snow tendon]

xD

[trail sleet]

alex

thats rude

[snow tendon]

ikr

[trail sleet]

are you saying you dont like glitchy?

[snow tendon]

Dude we need you for this

I'm seriously no good without someone telling me what needs to be done becuase Im no good at figuring things out

Please man

You gonna help us?

[trail sleet]

no

i hate this project

never gonna help

bye

[snow tendon]

@bitter viper help me

ALEX Help if Deerm quits we fked

[trail sleet]

yeah this is going all down

[snow tendon]

xD

[trail sleet]

alex cant do anything without me

[snow tendon]

Us trying to troll alex

[trail sleet]

us?

[vernal wasp]

[snow tendon]

Hey I'm playig along

Hey @bitter viper you can't do anything without Deerm

xD

[vernal wasp]

xdd

[trail sleet]

xdxd

[waxen orchid]

Alex gonna become even more with all of these pings

[trail sleet]

[ripe drift]

Frick i hate this emote so much

[trail sleet]

[ripe drift]

[rigid stirrup]

new game already

[snow tendon]

lol

[trail sleet]

spoilers for the mod (get out of here vedal)

[bitter viper]

tool retexture bad idea

neuro knife meh

neuro seaglide pointless

random image on the tool pointless

[fading anvil]

British knife?

[bitter viper]

this is just bloat

like nothing of value would be added to the mod except some images

and we already know how he deals with them from the hullplates (he doesn't care)

[trail sleet]

right

i forgot he doesnt care

welp

we'll add it to the main tools then!

[fading anvil]

[trail sleet]

its a joke

[bitter viper]

darkeew this seems like the kind of idea glitchysocial would come up with

[trail sleet]

listen

that is true

BUT

hear me out

a fumo in the seaglider

tell me how cute that would be

[bitter viper]

deal

if its a 3d model i can get behind it

[trail sleet]

see

glitchy has good ideas

oh wait i exposed my alt

my bad

(this is a joke)

ill work on it tomorrow

if anyone can get me the 3d model of the seaglider

[fading anvil]

You pinged anny?!

[ripe drift]

💀

[trail sleet]

its a joke

but uh

[fading anvil]

I know

[trail sleet]

dont tell anyone!

[fading anvil]

[trail sleet]

please

lets not derail the current topic

[bitter viper]

why would you need a 3d model of the seaglider

[trail sleet]

how do you expect me to put a neurofumo in the seaglider without the seaglider

[bitter viper]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

you justt

do it

?

attach it to the seaglide game object

like

uhh

replacing it entirely is kinda

[trail sleet]

so

[bitter viper]

BUT ITS OK

because you couldnt have known that

[trail sleet]

you're telling me to constantly restart my game and forcing me to work with magic numbers

seems good

hey alex

[bitter viper]

https://tenor.com/view/little-lesson-trickery-lazy-town-gif-22954407

[trail sleet]

i lied i cant do it tomorrow

only when you make it playable in bz

i should not listen to you and modify the entire seaglide model...

[bitter viper]

https://submodica.xyz/mods/sn1/109

[trail sleet]

o

i lied

i will listen to you

[bitter viper]

if that doesn't work because its subnautica-only there's https://github.com/ManlyMarco/RuntimeUnityEditor

[trail sleet]

amazing

[bitter viper]

there is also https://github.com/sinai-dev/UnityExplorer

[trail sleet]

i should leave this to glitchy tbh

[trail sleet]

i used this before

we could also put a neurooper/neuroerm in the vehicles

or inside it like a charm

theres not much space tho

[snow tendon]

WTF

[snow tendon]

LMAO

[snow tendon]

xD

[snow tendon]

xdxdxdxdxdxd

[snow tendon]

Look at my pull request xD

Hey @bitter viper see my pull

lmso lmao

[trail sleet]

@true lintel wanna deal with it or wait for alex

[true lintel]

already did

[trail sleet]

thats crazy

[foggy niche]

Is Alex still releasing the final version of the Subnautica mod today?

[snow tendon]

Did you see it lmao

I did another pull check the NEW one

[trail sleet]

he is releasing it soon

likely tomorrow on stream

i would have done it for him if i could

hes procrastinating a 5 minute task

[foggy niche]

Cool sounds good

[snow tendon]

See the changes i made

[trail sleet]

on god

[snow tendon]

on?

[trail sleet]

but if you want to play it now, ask govo for the DLL and you can install it manually

[snow tendon]

xD

[trail sleet]

i would but im in bed

[snow tendon]

Play my version with the updated credits

[trail sleet]

cant be bothered to get up just for a dll

[snow tendon]

bozo

[trail sleet]

@snow tendon please only do real and good contributions

[snow tendon]

heheheha

[trail sleet]

otherwise alex might ban you from the repo

[snow tendon]

;-;

Ok

[true lintel]

or github might ban you from the platform

[trail sleet]

yeah

also stop pinging him so often

[snow tendon]

THE FUNNY PART is I did it al in Notepad++

[trail sleet]

rule 3

[trail sleet]

thats amazing

[snow tendon]

lol

Who would have thought I would be able to MODIFY a text based with with a text based editor

[true lintel]

please go to bed

[trail sleet]

i will soon

[snow tendon]

Snoozing Deew

[snow tendon]

Oh yeah can someone animate the tutel feet if I rig it?

[past gyro]

bruh

[ripe drift]

The fuck?

[fossil aurora]

They should already be animated

[snow tendon]

Are they ;-;

[fossil aurora]

Whether it actually works or not is a different story

[snow tendon]

lol

[fossil aurora]

Why are you doing this? You're just being a nuisance. I find it rude considering you weren't involved in the project at all, and you've only contributed noise to this discussion since. Please stop. It's tiring.

[snow tendon]

It was funny lmao

[fossil aurora]

I assure you nobody else found it funny

[past gyro]

Well, gently, @snow tendon if they are not welcoming that kind of stuff, just respect their wishes to avoid tension, oki?

let them focus on their project

[snow tendon]

k

[snow tendon]

And also I am doing stuff so yeah

[vernal wasp]

[fading anvil]

Hi Glitchy, if the reply is not important please turn the ping off

[snow tendon]

I GOT BZ FOR FREEEEE

😄

[fading anvil]

Someone gifted you the game ?

[snow tendon]

Yea

My parents

They dont know they gifted it to me tho

😉

If you want to watch me play I'm streaming for the next 8-10 hours on general vc

[fossil aurora]

So you stole from your parents, am I reading that right

[snow tendon]

No i was jk dumbass

[wind stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/can-we-ban-this-guy-gif-21304842

[snow tendon]

I wantted to help test the mod so I begged my cousin for money

Thats now desperate I am to help

[trail sleet]

amazing

[snow tendon]

shut up im not proud of it but at least now I can make a meaning ful contribution becuase apparently I wasnt before

[trail sleet]

amazing

[snow tendon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/404817504213401601.gif?size=64

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/393622342581878785.gif?size=64

[ripe drift]

Dude let me read this thread in peace

[lone niche]

I was in the VC. Glitchy has basically lost his mind.

[snow tendon]

Stfu

[lone niche]

GN.

[trail sleet]

see ya

[snow tendon]

Youd better go to sleep this time

[ripe drift]

The only thing you do is derailing this thread

[trail sleet]

lets not take it that way

no drama here

[ripe drift]

Ok

[snow tendon]

No, not ok becuase I'm trying my fkin best to help

[trail sleet]

glad you are

[snow tendon]

And people are just shitposting on me

[trail sleet]

but you should calm down a bit

[snow tendon]

Ok

[fossil aurora]

can you please cut out the insults

[foggy niche]

What does the slider that says (???) Threat under mods do?

[snow tendon]

:D Guess

[trail sleet]

can you send ss?

or govo can tell you

[snow tendon]

No wait let him guess

[true lintel]

on your version it's the frequency of the erm moon

where 0 is never and 10 is every night

[foggy niche]

Idk because it didn’t seem to do anything when I messed with it that I can tell.

[snow tendon]

;-;

[fossil aurora]

how long does erm moon last again

[true lintel]

the whole night

[snow tendon]

Look up after setting it to 10

[fossil aurora]

ah cool

[foggy niche]

I will

[true lintel]

bc i couldn't figure out how to make it fade

[fossil aurora]

it's a feature

[snow tendon]

xD

Are you sure you didnt just slap a png and make it transparent

[true lintel]

as a matter of fact that's exactly what it is

[snow tendon]

Wow I'm a GeNiUs

xD

[foggy niche]

Can’t send images on this.

[snow tendon]

pog

[foggy niche]

Is Erm con random? I’ve only seen it twice.

[trail sleet]

yes

you can also do /event ermcon true

[foggy niche]

Oh cool

[trail sleet]

which manually activates the event

[vernal wasp]

are you a chatbot

[snow tendon]

screw u

[foggy niche]

Is that the right command? It didn’t seem to work.

[trail sleet]

it worked for me

thats weird

[foggy niche]

I’ll try again I could’ve did it wrong.

[fossil aurora]

wasn't it ermconevent

[trail sleet]

i used ermcon

[trail sleet]

btw dont use the "/"

[foggy niche]

Not working

[trail sleet]

hmmmm it worked for me

are you on the latest version?

[foggy niche]

As of September 2nd I think.

[fossil aurora]

that's the old version

[foggy niche]

The one that added ermshark.

Last one Alex released.

[fossil aurora]

the command format is different

one sec

i think it's event ermconevent start

or event ermcon start

[foggy niche]

Ok

[fossil aurora]

should be the first one, i'm pretty sure

ermconevent* sorry

[foggy niche]

Nothing happens

[fossil aurora]

if you use the events command, does it show anything?

[foggy niche]

Doesn’t say anything.

[fossil aurora]

and you're typing these in the dev console, right?

[trail sleet]

so

i slightly modified ermcon

i found this very interesting thing called "max attendance"

[foggy niche]

Is that in the files?

[trail sleet]

and set it to 500

[fossil aurora]

the erm dyson sphere

[foggy niche]

Wait when you say to type a command do you mean in game or the command prompt that opens when you start the game?

[fossil aurora]

in game

[trail sleet]

:3

[fossil aurora]

you can see in darkeew's video the dev console popping up in the bottom left

that's where you should run the commands

[trail sleet]

shift + `

and after you click it once, use enter

to open it

[foggy niche]

Oh ok.

[trail sleet]

so i changed their velocty

[foggy niche]

Can you send a video of you using the command in case I’m doing it wrong. It’s probably just my version of the mod though.

[fossil aurora]

if you can record a video you can dm it to me and i can check if you're doing something wrong

[trail sleet]

^^

[foggy niche]

The thread doesn’t let me share to it.

[fossil aurora]

in dms

[foggy niche]

Ok

[trail sleet]

my subnautica install has been forever damaged because i changed the ermcon velocity

[wind stratus]

I love mother nature

[fossil aurora]

reading c# code on github is a pain because of how it imports namespaces

can never tell where an item is coming from

what the hell is this

[trail sleet]

maybe for console

[fossil aurora]

yes but why is it tri-state

[trail sleet]

why not

[fossil aurora]

[bitter viper]

Because a call to the log method can either be suppressed, not suppressed, or decision to suppress it can be left up to the message helper

[fossil aurora]

ah, my bad, i misread

i thought the static value was an override

man i'm tired

[trail sleet]

sleep

[fossil aurora]

it's not even 6 pm

[bitter viper]

The static value is used if the parameter is not sent

[fossil aurora]

yeah, i understand it now, sorry

[snow tendon]

Uh guys Im streaming below zero rn pls come watch me, and help me bc im shit at this lmao

[soft basin]

🤷‍♂️

[fading anvil]

The problem is I would never want the game to finish loading

[bitter viper]

Final release of this mod for Subnautica: https://github.com/Alexejhero/Vedal-Subnautica-Mod/releases/tag/v2023.9.16

[frigid kettle]

Alex, were you forced back into a moderator at gunpoint? why does that seem plausible

"Guys I quit"
"No you don't"

[round stump]

not accepting ideas now?

[bitter viper]

i am accepting any and all ideas

[round stump]

i thought you released update and was done, nvm

[bitter viper]

yeah but

we're updating the mod for below zero

which means we will be adding a bunch of new stuff

[round stump]

idk what color for background

[trail sleet]

i dont think we'll be able to add hull plates

but i hope we can

otherwise alex has to make the hullplate mod from scratch

tbh its copy and pasting

just find someone with the code and copy paste it

[bitter viper]

im pretty sure i can add hull plates

[trail sleet]

are they in bz?

man i want to try and add hullplates but you want to do it on stream

@bitter viper quick question, where do you get the hullplate variable in the subnautica mod?

im looking thru it and cant see anything

[bitter viper]

"hullplate variable"

[trail sleet]

listen

dont judge me

i am alteast honest that i dont know much about C#

• im using rider so you cant offend me.

[bitter viper]

well i dont know what you mean by that

[trail sleet]

like

you have hullplateinfo

wait i might have gotten the awnser

i supose this grabs the json file
HullPlateInfo hullPlateInfo = (HullPlateInfo) new JsonSerializer().Deserialize(streamReader, typeof(HullPlateInfo));

but i dont know where you apply the custom hullplate to the subnautica hullplate

nevermind i am so stupid

[bitter viper]

[trail sleet]

nevermind i am even more stupid

i thought i got an awnser but im stupid

im still clueless

okay

where in the code you grab the original subnautica hullplate and apply the custom images

might have found it
CoroutineTask<GameObject> task = CraftData.GetPrefabForTechTypeAsync(TechType.DioramaHullPlate);

so we just have to add a custom hullplate prefab to the mod

god im feeling like glitchy

please help me

[bitter viper]

to be fair

you are indeed like glitchy

[trail sleet]

wait

[bitter viper]

but less annoying

[trail sleet]

and i actually can help

and provide contributions

[bitter viper]

who knows what glitchy will come up with

[trail sleet]

im just a bit silly when trying to learn things

i just learned hull plates are a special feature

i was going thru a steam thing and look what i found

[bitter viper]

https://tenor.com/view/goober-kitty-crazy-cat-cat-goober-warning-gif-24871108

[trail sleet]

but alex

if you want me to be annoying just say

ill beat glitchy at his own game

why am i even trying to do this you're basically a god at modding subnautica

[bitter viper]

[trail sleet]

it would take me like 1 day to figure this out but 2 hours for you

this is sad i feel useless

amazing

good luck alex 👍

ill let you be schizo for me

[bitter viper]

if you want to contribute to the mod you can

[trail sleet]

i will when you do the basics

im already doing the thing for the seaglide

i wont be able to do much stuff code related

maybe some fixes/adding some items

but making things from scratch is pratically impossible for me

[ember flume]

#voice-text message Nikodem found a model of neuro idk if we can use it or have any use for it but i just wanted to let yaal know it exists in case wen eed it

[frigid kettle]

hi alex, glitchy here, i have an amazing idea (real)
jokes aside... i had a fetch quest in mind where it looks like it's going to unlock a secret blueprint (example pick up 3 neuro fumos, which we would spawn on the map) except when he gets three instead of unlocking a blueprint we spawn a massive, deadly creature right in front of him

technically difficult because we would need to make sure wherever he picks up the collectable, that there is enough room to spawn said creature

also i might just slip into the repo again to add the "thanks on twitch subscribe" to the tutel

[frigid kettle]

don't feel too bad, i use C# daily at work and even for me, there are a few things that get me completely lost with this modding... it's mostly because you're coding atop a sealed and built piece of software, so a lot of reverse engineering is in order

hell if you watch alex stream sometimes he manages to get lost too (he finds his way faster though)

[fossil aurora]

Neuron lung

[snow tendon]

Its good

Hey Alex are you still there

Can you donate me subscirptijon to JetBrains so I don't have to use VS

Jkjk

stfu

Is it free

[foggy niche]

The is this possibly an older version because when I installed all Erm fish disappeared. Still have hull plates.

[snow tendon]

Is it better than VS?

;-;

PoGgErS

[bitter viper]

send me BepInEx/LogOutput.log file please

[snow tendon]

Alex what did you do with the recording...

[foggy niche]

ok one sec

[foggy niche]

Sent it in a dm

[bitter viper]

did you use any previous versions of the mod before?

@foggy niche you didnt properly install the mod

please read the install guide in the release

you are supposed to delete the old version before instaling the new one

[foggy niche]

Ok

[bitter viper]

let me know if there's still a problem after that

[foggy niche]

I replace all the file of the same name. Same thing I did for all the updates. Didn’t have issues before.

[bitter viper]

you need to delete the old Assets folder

because it contains some files that were deleted in the new version

[trail sleet]

alex

make an installer for the install version

[bitter viper]

no

[trail sleet]

make an installer for the installer for the install version

[foggy niche]

I fixed it. I appreciate your help.

[bitter viper]

good to hear

[trail sleet]

might scratch the fumo on the seaglide

not much space

and might obstruct vedal's map

[snow tendon]

Alex someone wants to know if you play on the Minecraft server

[trail sleet]

alex doesnt play mc

and this isnt the place to ask that

if you go offtopic again you might be muted

[fossil aurora]

Could we replace the map hologram with a custom model

Maybe with a low chance of appearing

[trail sleet]

that would be too much

[bitter viper]

no

seems too complicated

[trail sleet]

ill make it small enough so it doesnt obstruct the map but can also be seen

what i can do is make it invisible if he activates the map

[fossil aurora]

How about making it into a keychain

Like a gun charm in r6siege

[trail sleet]

hmmm

if alex can make it move sure

since a static keychain is just ugly

[fossil aurora]

Adding some rotation based on velocity might just be enough

[trail sleet]

yeah

[bitter viper]

making it a keychain isnt done in code

its done in unity in the prefab

[trail sleet]

yes but making it move

like wiggle around when he moves the camera

[bitter viper]

just adding a rigidbody component on it and its parents and setting them up

not done through code

[trail sleet]

ah kay

[fossil aurora]

Is this not going to cause problems like that ermfish vm collider

[bitter viper]

no

it doesnt need to have a collider does it?

just a rigidbody?

or does rigidbody require collider?

in that case we can make it a trigger

[trail sleet]

yeah

[fossil aurora]

I'm not sure actually

[trail sleet]

rb requires collider

infact if you add a rb it automaticly adds a collider

[frigid kettle]

iirc could swear making it trigger would make it not have gravity

[trail sleet]

depends

i havent touched much of that but i've always had bad experiences with ontrigger

[frigid kettle]

trigger basically makes the collider a non physical hitzone

[bitter viper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cecp4a7FsTU

[trail sleet]

ill try putting it ontop of the seaglide

[trail sleet]

@bitter viper i lost all those tools you sent yesterday can i have them again :3

[frigid kettle]

i kept the link to this one, likely the most useful
https://submodica.xyz/mods/sn1/109

[sturdy spruce]

I decided to change how my low-poly fumo looks, I want it to be more fitting for low-poly, do you guys like it?
And I want to make some collab partners' plushies too
But I want to ask if should I do it? cause last time vedal didn't build anything besides ermfish(he didn't even rebuild it after he deconstructed it )

[ripe drift]

This is so cute and good

[sturdy spruce]

Thank you!

[jolly stratus]

Omg adorable

[bitter viper]

It looks very good

But yeah I don't think he'll build too many things

[trail sleet]

can be a keychain

[bitter viper]

Here is what I am thinking

We make all of the buildables and the other models like gun charms

[trail sleet]

was also thinking that

[bitter viper]

And we let him craft them for cheap like just some titanium and give all of the tools equipment slots where he can put them

[trail sleet]

we could also have the hullplates scaled down and do that

or a dedicated charm with the hullplate images

[fading anvil]

So everything decorations we add will be tied to the same tool ?

For example if we add low-poly Neuro on a knife it we only be on that specific knife ?

[fading anvil]

Nvm just saw this message

[sturdy spruce]

so will we remove the buildables?

[trail sleet]

we keep them

[sturdy spruce]

ah ok

[fading anvil]

Can we make a hullpate gun charm ?

[fossil aurora]

gun skin with inspect animation

[bitter viper]

i think that's too much effort

making it work for all of the hull plates

so i dont like the idea

[trail sleet]

cant we make it do automaticly

[snow tendon]

Can't we just replace the hull plates and just change the image?

[snow tendon]

Can we make a buildable consle that allows you to play 2D Neuro platformer games?

[trail sleet]

we could remake the ps2 in subnautica bz and let vedal play crash bandicoot

just like uncharted 4

mmmm yes play subnautica in subnautica below zero

[snow tendon]

xD

Anyway I had a legit Idea. We should remake the fimos of all the collab partners into the game

[trail sleet]

too bad i already suggested that

[snow tendon]

;-;

Damm the one time I have a good idea and someone already took it

[undone elm]

Perhaps some sort of arctic themed neurofish? could do an Arctic Ermfish but I would miss the original, maybe a Anny Eel?

[soft basin]

we already chagned the hair of the ermshark and ermfish to white

[undone elm]

oh based

they evolved

sorry I am too lazy to backread

[soft basin]

its not in the thread

[undone elm]

oh

[sturdy spruce]

I don't know why I made this

[trail sleet]

@sturdy spruce send me the file for the new fumo

[sturdy spruce]

with tutel or?

[trail sleet]

hmmm

actually

@bitter viper should i add a keychain version of the one with turtle or without turtle?

or both

[bitter viper]

you are working in the unity project that's in the repo, right?

[trail sleet]

everything im working on is in the repo

[bitter viper]

👍

[trail sleet]

so

which one

[bitter viper]

add something else first

not the low-poly fumo

cuz i want to update its buildable as well

go for the neurooper or other fumo for now

[trail sleet]

kay

[snow tendon]

Hey dude join VC pls I needa talk to you

[trail sleet]

just talk to him here?

if its about the mod of course

[bitter viper]

bro im streaming

[trail sleet]

wheres the ping

you betrayed us alex

[snow tendon]

Can I join?

[trail sleet]

as a viewer

[snow tendon]

Can I join the Mental Hospital I have been in Genral VC for 76 hours now

[bitter viper]

the bz icon has two animatios - idle and jump forward

[waxen orchid]

[trail sleet]

and getting back up

the jumping animation has 2 stages
normal jumping
jumping and falling mid jump

[soft basin]

uuh can you send them to me if you have it on hands?

[trail sleet]

thats with alex

you can search subnautica below zero starting screen

[lofty tree]

bro i cant help but appreciate the anny eel

[soft basin]

[sturdy spruce]

[waxen orchid]

I love it!

[wind stratus]

thats gotta be the best sea creature I've ever seen

[trail sleet]

holy this would be amazing

[soft basin]

who will be making it

[trail sleet]

no clue

[fading anvil]

stop reminding me that i can't just think something into existence

[lofty tree]

i straightened her

[true lintel]

very stretchy

[ripe drift]

Anneel

[undone elm]

:o it's kinda cute!

[thorn furnace]

hm

i remember why i don't 3d model or texture much

[undone elm]

now that it's t-posed and put as a reference it doesn't seem too bad to moddel... I've seen worse-- but then again I only really did blueprints for machines, nothing organic-

[thorn furnace]

i just don't know how to model

[wind stratus]

This image also would be perfect ref for entry in the PDA

[lofty tree]

wel in case u consider that, i can provide this transparent one (with flattened one too tho but u can get rid of it)

[fading anvil]

you did more then most of us

[thorn furnace]

im gonna throw something together

[ember flume]

aw u were faster 😮‍💨

[thorn furnace]

ngl im sorta just messing about

[ember flume]

i wish u success (?)

[thorn furnace]

feel free to take a shot yourself

[ember flume]

ill try tomorrow ... not today.. im really tired ^^`

[thorn furnace]

jesus hair is difficult

[trail sleet]

hey bred

did you know

animations

[soft basin]

we need like 10

[thorn furnace]

yeaah but those are the easy part

currently trying to avoid messing up topology too badly

[trail sleet]

are they

[thorn furnace]

i mean you just add bones add mess about with it

i can play with one of those neon worm things if you want a reference

i keep trying to think about how this hair is actually laid out and its confusing me so bad

[snow tendon]

Hey alex I NEED TO TALK TO YOU

[trail sleet]

just say it here

???

[wind stratus]

its a chat, if you want to say something just say it and alex will probably read it with time

[soft basin]

what if that is something personal

[thorn furnace]

the topology is fine

[thorn furnace]

ok imma go sleep now, here's the current blend file

[marsh mesa]

I have an idea, tt would be cool if eel Anny had a starfish instead of a star, it would be funny and more aquatic.

like she grabbed some starfish and started wearing it on her head.

[soft basin]

or make Anny into a starfish

[thorn furnace]

feel free to do whatever with this, I left it with the hair and fin off but they should be easy enough to toggle on

I do not like the topology on the eyes

[wind stratus]

You could make that into a symbiosis

[rose scroll]

Alright owobred, I'll remind you about #starboard message in 19 hours. ID: 61274191

[thorn furnace]

that image explains the hair better

[lofty tree]

i mean, i spent exactly 43 seconds on each of those eel doodles

[thorn furnace]

I spent 20 minutes trying to model good looking hair lmao

anyways this makes more sense to me because it's a lot closer to my actual hair so I can kinda figure it out a bit

[wind stratus]

I wanted to say maybe star provides light but most predators are adapted to attack anything that glows

So id there was a PDA entry it would probably be like "The eel and starfish on its head seem to be in a symbiotic relationship, however how any of the parties benefit from it is unknown"

[marsh mesa]

I thought about it just now but can i create memes that use art of others without permission? If not i'm sorry paccha

love your art btw

[lofty tree]

i cant speak for others, but my art is free to be used in fair ways which memes are

[lofty tree]

and thank you

[undone elm]

The starfish is a filter feeder that can get more access to microbes to eat while anneel moves around? and in return she gets a cute accessory?

[lofty tree]

its rather a parasitism then since in nature u dont care about accessories much

[undone elm]

I'm sure it's probably doing something helpful lol

but it might be funnier if not

[snow tendon]

Disable Hull plate image <<< I AM HERE
Update Loading Indicators
Custom Posters
Custom CDs
Add Tutel animation
New Creature discorvered plays every time
Update Lowpoly Neuro Fumo
More Tutel action
Fix Fish veiwmodels
Fix Gymbag
Fix Eating > test Eating

[trail sleet]

you're gonna do all of that?

damn

[snow tendon]

It was in Projects so I will try

[trail sleet]

also remove the "update lowpoly neuro fumo"

[snow tendon]

Oh completed?

[trail sleet]

no

[snow tendon]

Then whaaa???

[trail sleet]

the old lowpoly stays

wait nvm

[snow tendon]

@bitter viper confirm?

[trail sleet]

alex said he'd be dealing with that

[snow tendon]

Ok

[trail sleet]

i think

[snow tendon]

Disable Hull plate image <<< I AM HERE
Update Loading Indicators
Custom Posters
Custom CDs
Add Tutel animation
New Creature discorvered plays every time
More Tutel action
Fix Fish veiwmodels
Fix Gymbag
Fix Eating > test Eating

[trail sleet]

if alex uploads version of the mod i can help for bz

great discord

messed up my message

[snow tendon]

We are using the same one becuase alex said he'd backport it anyway

[trail sleet]

i just want it to work in bz

[snow tendon]

Want what to work?

[trail sleet]

the mod

to work in bz

[snow tendon]

yeah me too

[true lintel]

it "works" now

[trail sleet]

the gh version doesnt

[true lintel]

check again

and use alex's ecc fork

[trail sleet]

i should be banned for misinformation

[true lintel]

quotation marks because it's still relatively fragile, i'll have more time to test/fix stupid stuff later

[trail sleet]

so our current goal is to have it work normally like it did in subnautica

"normally"

[snow tendon]

xD

[trail sleet]

@true lintel do you have a roadmap of what you're doing/what you're going to do

[true lintel]

me personally?

otherwise https://github.com/users/Alexejhero/projects/5

[trail sleet]

thanks

[snow tendon]

Disable Hull plate image <<< Kinda Lost
Update Loading Indicators <<<I AM HERE
Custom Posters
Custom CDs
Add Tutel animation
New Creature discorvered plays every time
More Tutel action
Fix Fish veiwmodels
Fix Gymbag
Fix Eating > test Eating

[snow tendon]

LOADING INDICATORS COMPLETE

UPLOADING IMAGE TO REPLACE WHEN THE PENGUIN FALLS DOWN

5%

10%

35%

70%

100%

RENDERING IMAGE

LOADING IMAGE FOR WHEN THE PENGUIN IS STOP OR WALKING

PROJECT DRAFT COMPLETE.

REMOVING PREVIOUS CODE

GENERATING CODE

UNAELE TO IDENTIFY CODE SECTION FOR LOADING SCREEN. CAUSE, NONEXISTENT DIRECTORY.

REQUESTING ASSISTANCE FROM @bitter viper or @trail sleet PLEASE UPLOAD THE UBOVE IMAGES TO THE LOADING ASSETS.

[bitter viper]

what the hell is this

[snow tendon]

What

Something wrong with the animation >:D

[snow tendon]

@bitter viper its clearly you getting mauled by an ermshark lmao

[frigid marsh]

Perfection

[trail sleet]

what did i just see

[bitter viper]

Would this work as a loading bg?

From #starboard

[trail sleet]

it looks low quality

[bitter viper]

Yeah that's what I was thinking

[trail sleet]

who made that?

[bitter viper]

Saddecs

[trail sleet]

tell him to make it higher quality

[bitter viper]

But he didn't intend it to be used for subnautica

I just wanted to yoink it

[trail sleet]

hm

we could make something similar

with the cyclops explosion quote

problem is how would we get a neuro without the background

[vernal wasp]

are you using this one yet? (by Vaalmyr)

[ember flume]

I like this one more

[trail sleet]

can i get a neurosama without a background

[bitter viper]

I don't want to have these images take away from the art that the other artists have made - we can include one but only if it's really funny

[true lintel]

these look more like candidates for custom posters than loading screens to me tbh

[vernal wasp]

"neuro is a real help in the makeing" is a classic and it's shorter than the one above

game might load before people finish reading the joke

[bitter viper]

So true

[vernal wasp]

are posters fixed yet

or do they still obliterate cyclops

[bitter viper]

They have been fixed for 3 weeks now

[vernal wasp]

awesome

can you unfix the cat one for shits and giggles

[bitter viper]

Or custom picture frames

[trail sleet]

can someone remove the background out of this

nvm thats low quality

[fading anvil]

I think this image will get too many chatters timed out...

[snow tendon]

hey @bitter viper whats wrong with my loading icon 😉

Also pls join vc

[bitter viper]

1 sec

[lone niche]

wew Evil V2. That's a throwback

[thorn furnace]

currently trying to figure out the anny eel's eyes, would it be woth streaming the modelling?

in good news i fixed the topology more

[thorn furnace]

gives me big borzoi vibes

blender crashed

[soft basin]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-adorable-duckling-haha-classic-gif-17283485

[thorn furnace]

thank god i only lost the ears

[soft basin]

i have auto save for like every 2 minutes

[thorn furnace]

oh actually you're right i have an autosave of it

this is such a mess to try and get my head round

[soft basin]

seems alright

[thorn furnace]

yeah but the three references throw me off a bit lol

[thorn furnace]

now to figure out how to attach the fin

anyone got any advice in regards to the fin? i've currently got a single plane for the fin, but i assume that wouldn't work well in terms of the normals
currently thinking of adding some geometry around the fin area and then modelling it that way?

this works

[soft basin]

[thorn furnace]

honestly glad i learnt the basics of topology before diving into this

[ripe drift]

Submanneel

[soft basin]

maybe something like this too

[thorn furnace]

unfortunately there's a line of verts down the middle

actually wait

no you're probably correct

[soft basin]

but hmm it may ba a problem if it is disconnected, on such a long body