#Below Zero Mod

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trail sleet
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then cook it

bitter viper
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Neurofumo isn't an item it's a buildable

trail sleet
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i know i know

bitter viper
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I am looking for something more interesting and funny

fading anvil
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like this ?

trail sleet
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idk

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ill think about it

bitter viper
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Seems a bit

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Bland

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Maybe add more

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Greggs

fading anvil
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I know :/

bitter viper
trail sleet
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ermfish is too overrated, we dont use it for this craft

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maybe a diamond

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nah

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something that will make vedal go "anything for a greggs"

fading anvil
trail sleet
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@fading anvil fill the hull plate with greggs

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leave NO empty spaces

fading anvil
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okay

trail sleet
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every pixel must be greggs

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maybe greggs could be an ermshark drop?

pastel canyon
trail sleet
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nah he wouldnt know its an ermshark drop

pastel canyon
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lorewise unkillable

trail sleet
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ic

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well it could be a crazy expensive item

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its not funny but vedal would definetly waste his time to craft it

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idk what alex means by "funny"

pastel canyon
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best recipe I can think of would be ermfish x2 with maybe Chinese potato plant for starch
neuroShrug

trail sleet
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explode a cyclops for greggs despair

bitter viper
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I will make the greggs require like a sea crown seed

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Or some bull shit like that

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Or I have a better idea

trail sleet
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lmao

bitter viper
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Add greggs

bitter viper
trail sleet
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alex alex can i add it

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pretty please

bitter viper
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Sure

trail sleet
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🥹

bitter viper
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Go for it

trail sleet
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if he read the lore he wouldnt spend any time on it

bitter viper
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Want to add a line there about how upset you are for being accused of using chatgpt?

trail sleet
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but its vedal despair

bitter viper
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I love that idea darkeew

trail sleet
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amazing

fading anvil
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I made a pattern out of Chicken bakes neurOMEGALUL

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Can we let Vedal use this as decoration ? neuroGiggle

bitter viper
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Use what

fading anvil
bitter viper
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Lmao what am I supposed to do with that

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I love it

fading anvil
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I have more

bitter viper
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But what am I supposed to do with it

fading anvil
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decortion for base ?

bitter viper
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How would I implement this as decortion

fading anvil
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or for the bumblebee ?

bitter viper
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I could add a greggs poster

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Or something

fading anvil
bitter viper
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He won't after this

trail sleet
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not a greggs one for sure

bitter viper
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I could add a greggs poster and make that break his game like the old cat poster

trail sleet
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greggs poster increases ermshark spawn rate

bitter viper
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No can do those are frozen

trail sleet
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when you place it a message appears "you feel like anything could go wrong"

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and spawn an ermshark

bitter viper
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Btw darkeew use the gymbag as an example if you want for adding new items

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It has everything thats needed there from registering the item to adding an icon and a recipe to it

trail sleet
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kay

bitter viper
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Update event msg

bitter viper
snow tendon
bitter viper
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Yes I could do that

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Is there a reason for it though?

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That would be kind of a pain

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I would much rather just export the head model directly into the game

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And connect it there

snow tendon
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Oh, sure that works too Okay

How would it be connected though, just placed over the existing reapers head I'm guessing?

bitter viper
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Either place on top so it covers the entire head, or I can disable the reaper head so there's more flexibility with the size of the Neuro head as long as the reaper head isn't part of the same mesh as the rest of the body

snow tendon
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Alright, I'll send you the model later on tomorrow/today after I texture the hair (assuming I don't run into any issues).

bitter viper
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Sounds good 👍

bitter viper
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I liked the previous one :(

humble charm
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I would like to suggest replacing the "welcome aboard Captain" with neuro

vernal wasp
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replace the entire AI assistant voice with neuro

wind stratus
trail sleet
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@bitter viper how do i install the source so i can modify the code

bitter viper
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what do you mean

trail sleet
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theres an official version, which you released on the 27th of august, but then theres the source code

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is there a way to build that?

bitter viper
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yeah just clone the repo

trail sleet
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and...?

bitter viper
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build it

bitter viper
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do you have a tooltip for this one?

fading anvil
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Very important message?

reef hamlet
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Mabe "Something that is impossible cannot be done or cannot happen"

fading anvil
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Mabe

reef hamlet
bitter viper
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i am looking for a hull plate texture with the pink and black corrupted texture thing from minecraft and/or source games/etc

reef hamlet
leaden furnace
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2pfrog hasnt replied yet Sadge

trail sleet
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hes a busy man

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hes constantly cooking

leaden furnace
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yeah

trail sleet
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i need a greggs png

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i have a greggs png

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i need a description for greggs

rigid mirage
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Greggs.

reef hamlet
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I would marry gregg where is he

leaden furnace
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Don't sell Neuro for Gregg. Say it back ReallyGunPull Tutel

fading anvil
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Who is going to 3d model the chicken bake ?

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You fixed the edges?

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Oh

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OkayOkay

trail sleet
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NOOOOOOO

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THERES ONLY A SAUSAGE ROLL GREGGS 3D MODEL

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what do you fucking mean?

bitter viper
trail sleet
fading anvil
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So no chicken bakes ?

thorn furnace
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those look fun to 3d model

rigid mirage
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I'm becoming hungry reading this conversation

jaunty gyro
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make the greggs items locked behind scanning the reaper leviathan

fading anvil
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that's evil neuroD

leaden furnace
pastel canyon
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Neuro-sama Subnautica, an adventure of save scumming for greggs chicken the stream ft. tutel

fading anvil
edgy rose
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That's beautiful, neuro looks soo realistic there neuroHeart

dusty hatch
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Yep

bitter viper
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i need an icon for dead ermfish

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pls Prayge

fading anvil
soft basin
reef hamlet
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Wait hand is green

leaden furnace
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erm

reef hamlet
neon canopy
vernal wasp
snow tendon
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Won't finish evilhead till tommorow, I had to spend all day editing the hair geometry because I'm an idiot, so I didn't get to the texturing. Hopefully the hair (well the bangs anyway) won't be too difficult to texture.

bitter viper
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I'm postponing the vedfish and the reaper until next week!

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Since there are only 2 more days in which I could add the vedfish and 1 day for adding the reaper I don't think I would be able to finish those in time so instead I will focus on more minor features that can be completed until thursday

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@vale jasper is there a vedal sound collection somewhere?

vale jasper
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In the same place

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There are not that many sounds though

bitter viper
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My infinite gigabrain has perfect foresight 5Head - you shall see very soon what I mean

rigid mirage
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I could send you like 8 vedal femboy noises later

bitter viper
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As a matter of fact I don't think I'll be making any more changes to the Subnautica mod until the stream

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Perhaps only making sure that @true lintel's sound effect for the event isnt too loud

bitter viper
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Mwahahaha I had already taken into account that tomorrow would be the last day of development long before I knew that was the case!

reef hamlet
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Mhmmmm Susge

snow tendon
soft basin
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isn't there a way to add a volume slider in mod settings?

bitter viper
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Yeah there is

soft basin
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we could keep it loud for a surprise effect and let him adjust the volume later

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"we" NeuroClueless

odd merlin
bitter viper
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what is this exactly?

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cant really tell from the screenshot alone

regal geode
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Seems like you prepared for short time this week but good luck nonetheless neuro7

true lintel
true lintel
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which is honestly hilarious

vale jasper
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oh boy, we do have a LOTS of new noises from Evil already ICANT

frigid kettle
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yeah i was gonna say m60LUL

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what the SHIT

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dude who told her where we keep the crack?

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also @vale jasper she did generate two or three great ermshark noises during her brief dev stream appearance

vale jasper
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I think so

frigid kettle
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nah those are easy to split out

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it gets hard when it's bgm + vedal screaming

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i can only imagine how evil managed to be so fucked this stream already PepeLaugh

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CJ this stream will run out all your storage

vale jasper
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Yeah, most definitely ICANT

frigid kettle
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evil's vocal range is.... interesting 🙂

cunning charm
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These sounds are perfect for the mod ICANT

regal geode
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So uh, how about an ermDemonFish

ripe drift
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Subnautcia will become scarier than ever before

fading anvil
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Good luck with trying to clear the sounds afterwards despair

vale jasper
fading anvil
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Evil is going crazy this stream

true lintel
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i want to replace the moon call with her laughs

marsh mesa
fading anvil
vale jasper
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My plan is to cut them down and export markers, then someone else will rename them while I am asleep

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I am at marker 42 with no signs of even close to 1/10th of the vod

leaden furnace
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I can help a bit if that's too much

frigid kettle
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my idea for tutel isn't a fish, rather a turtle that just stands on the bottom floor... it would emit two types of sound ambient: random vedal quotes, and each vedal would have like 33% chance of reacting to a new sub
(anyway fish or quadruped doesn't matter, they can do this either way)

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the sub audio lines would be, and i would have to find these myself, all the times where vedal tries to thank a sub but he's in the middle of something, so it comes off as insincere even though it's not PepeLaugh

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and then there would be the cooking lines, which would all be "tutel sounds"

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and it would give water, so we force him to cook himself in series like he did to ermfish last time

frigid kettle
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also i agree with alex, the ermshark ambient sounds should just be weird evil laughters... it worked so well last stream, she was actually a bit spooky

vale jasper
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Done with sounds, 560 in total wtf

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Added… ahem… 534 Evil sounds from Demon stream (incl. 38 favorites). They are NOT sorted or processed in any way.
https://nuero.fun/noises

fading anvil
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I wonder if Alex watched the stream

trail sleet
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he probably did

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@bitter viper can i add some evil sounds to ermfish?

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mainly screams

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mainly when shes eaten

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~2-4 death sounds

frigid kettle
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yeah that's what i mean, that kinda lets me give it a go over the weekend

bitter viper
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Winter has already created a vedfish model

frigid kettle
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aight, i could work with that unless you get to it before i do

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just wanna give it a go, it seems fun

bitter viper
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I mean the repo is open source so go for it if you want

frigid kettle
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ye ill let you know if i have anything ofc

bitter viper
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One thing I have to mention: the subnautica prefabs need to follow a specific format:
Prefab
\- Collider child
\- Model gameobject 1...
|- Model gameobject 2...
|- Etc

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So the main prefab gameobject should have no components and should have one single child with only a collider

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If the prefab has both a world model and a view model (like the ermfish), it needs to have 2 collider children each with their own collider

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You can look at the other prefabs and see how they are setup to get an idea

frigid kettle
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ye will do, and i'll use an existing one to test at first just to get the idea

bitter viper
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Lmao what the fuck happened last stream xD

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How are there 500 sounds cj

vale jasper
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The better question is Why there are 500 sounds

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I will categorize them all today

frigid kettle
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alex the only way to answer that question is to watch the vod... nothing else in the universe will fully detail what the fuck that was m60LUL

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you want fucking weird laughs for the ermshark to be super mega cursed? well boy did evil get you covered lol

wind stratus
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Additionally you have a nice ASMR to listen to

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VERY RELAXING

frigid kettle
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seriously she was cycling randomly through like.... scottish, british, normal, ASMR, demon, plus effects and glitches

wind stratus
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It's that AI vtuber right? And she said "HELLO CHAT" while screaming funniest shit I've ever seen

frigid kettle
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i hadnt noticed he switched to the ASMR category mid stream m60LUL

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no 1 ASMR stream

vale jasper
vale jasper
rigid mirage
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My god... it's beautiful

rigid mirage
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Alex SCHIZO

narrow pebble
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alex got exposed live lolz

willow flax
fading anvil
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pls say . Alex ?

bitter viper
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NetPlayz ?

gaunt crystal
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Am I ?

bitter viper
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lmao

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wasnt that supposed to be rare

trail sleet
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wtf is that suposed to be

true lintel
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ok next time i'll make it put a giant sign on screen pointing up

trail sleet
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did you put a cow in subnautica

gaunt crystal
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Why its sounds like a ship ICANT

trail sleet
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alex can you tell me what that was

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or someone that knows what the ocean cow is

bitter viper
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Clueless no spoilers

wind stratus
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do you want spoilers tf

trail sleet
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yeah spoil me in dms

snow tendon
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cease Don't tell him

wind stratus
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don't tell him leTroll

trail sleet
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kay i just have to watch alex vods

wind stratus
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leave him confused

bitter viper
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Clueless alex vods

snow tendon
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NeuroClueless Alex vods

narrow pebble
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is it.... the big one?

trail sleet
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he doesnt upload them but i have them recorded

fading anvil
trail sleet
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(i dont)

vernal wasp
bitter viper
vernal wasp
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so did it work

snow tendon
vernal wasp
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he can do any commands I think

trail sleet
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i found what the event is

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the source code never lies

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wtf alex

snow tendon
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Smadge You would have enjoyed it more if you saw it with vedal

trail sleet
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i only heard

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i didnt see

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neither did he

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if we're waiting on him to see the event, good luck

snow tendon
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I'm kidding. I do it too.

wind stratus
true lintel
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it should happen 1-2 more times this stream

trail sleet
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it happens at night

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has he seen the greggs?

bitter viper
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its locked he needs to pickup an ermfish to unlock it or i will unlock it manually later

trail sleet
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did you tell him to check hull plates...

bitter viper
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yes i even told him there would be a greggs hull plate

trail sleet
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hes not gonna check the hull plates...

bitter viper
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i will make him build all of them in the rocket Clueless

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WHAT

trail sleet
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alex...

bitter viper
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LMAO WHAT THE FUCK

soft basin
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what is happening neurOMEGALUL

wind stratus
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why is there an ermnado

trail sleet
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noway he didnt see the greggs

regal geode
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Alex may have made a minor error

rigid mirage
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Alex, Alex what did you do

regal geode
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The swarm

fading anvil
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Alex can you add the erm shark emote PLEASE

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?

snow tendon
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Imagine multiplayer where we all get to play as an erm fish and follow vedal neurOMEGALUL

undone elm
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so what was added this time?

fading anvil
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no spoilers

undone elm
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NeuroNodders ok

trail sleet
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the only spoiler you get

undone elm
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based, I will sign the non-discosure agreement about this

fading anvil
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ty alex for adding the ermshark emote

wind stratus
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I just had a genius idea

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could we make mesmer into anny? neurOMEGALUL

bitter viper
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no

wind stratus
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understandable

bitter viper
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i dont want to modify any base-game stuff

wind stratus
rigid mirage
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Anny foxfish

frigid kettle
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i think we should just use anny's death voice pack for when the player dies PepeLaugh

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she made 16 death sounds and she put her entire heart into it i swear lol

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also i wish i wasnt at the office rn, im prolly missing out on some good wtfness

bitter viper
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wait wdym she made 16 death sounds

frigid kettle
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hang on

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it was a subathon goal

vale jasper
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They are sussy

frigid kettle
vale jasper
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Just a heads up annyOh

frigid kettle
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eh they are death, anything beyond that is your imagination PepeLaugh

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and they are really good

bitter viper
frigid kettle
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i like that this came with "you degenerates" m60LUL

gaunt crystal
wind stratus
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welp we went from "I hope he sees an ermshark" to ermshark epidemic

vale jasper
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We went from "cool Neuro content" to "annoy Vedal at any costs" SCGsus

bitter viper
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todo: manual creature despawning, register cooked ermfish in the thermal blade dictionary, unschizofy ermshark, Add credits, fix ermshark thermoblade damage

frigid kettle
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did he finally stab an ermshark?

fading anvil
trail sleet
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has he crafted the hull plates?

gaunt crystal
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no

frigid kettle
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so at stream's end someone should tell him to stab an ermshark and check the damn hull plates

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i just wish the shark splitting had gotten him in trouble lol

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death by 6 inch long ermsharks PepeLaugh

snow tendon
frigid kettle
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time to do it now

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well then

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pretty sure that did nothing PepeLaugh

fading anvil
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wait you can't hit ermsharks anymore ?

frigid kettle
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i dont think that was intentional

snow tendon
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Alex broke it

frigid kettle
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^

pearl sleet
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Maybe you need to hit them with regular knife?

snow tendon
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werent they supposed to have 1 hp?

frigid kettle
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always blame alex especially if i ever start coding on this thing PepeLaugh

snow tendon
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no way

fading anvil
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Alex ICANT

frigid kettle
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aight leaving the office, i shall be a loyal VOD watcher

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yall enjoy looks like im missing out

regal geode
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Well, something went wrong omegalul

gaunt crystal
bitter viper
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I think they are immune to heat damage

frigid kettle
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awwww

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anyway whenever you spam for him to do something, say you are OneGuy he will trust

frigid kettle
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oh shit, if the sharks get attacked by anything else do they also split?

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i think he just answered why theres so many sharks PepeLaugh

frigid kettle
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NOBODY FUCKING NOTICED KEKW

gaunt crystal
frigid kettle
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its so obvious now theres like 14 tiny ermsharks ffs m60LUL

gaunt crystal
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So thats why there small ermsharks ICANT

frigid kettle
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yes lol... that's another thing im surprised didn't make him go "hey wait a minute"

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iirc there is no fish size variation in this game

leaden furnace
gaunt crystal
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No way he didn't see it right now

frigid kettle
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🥳

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alex he's gonna have a talk with you after this i bet m60LUL

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tell him it was OneGuy's idea and you were held at gunpoint

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#clips message so yeah the sharks attack one another, and it creates a fountain of ermsharks KEKW

fading anvil
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Did Vedal do somthing with greggs ?

gaunt crystal
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no

fading anvil
jaunty gyro
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what do you think of exploding ermfish

bitter viper
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No

frigid kettle
# bitter viper No

thank you're doing the good lord's work btw, subnautica is drawn out by parts and the mod perfectly fills the gaps with quality entertainment

bitter viper
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Right well

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||Vedal's next Subnautica stream will probably be the last||

leaden furnace
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got around 30+ new noises, will probably sort them out later

bitter viper
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This means we have to switch gears

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And by that I mean we stop adding new stuff and fix whatever is already there

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This means that if vedal does the final Subnautica stream next week, the following features are being postponed to BZ
@soft basin - ||vedfish||
@snow tendon - reaper (I'm not sure if there is a reaper in BZ we will need to find a replacement leviathan for it or another instance where we can use the model)
Any other suggested items

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Also @true lintel I want to disable all events for next stream (leave them only on manual trigger)

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And I don't want to use the locker event at all

bitter viper
edgy rose
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Glad i was able to contribute some to this mod

gaunt crystal
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I want to hear some Demon Evil sounds in game, like "Hello chat", but I don't know if it's a good idea.

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I also had an idea for a turtle with Vedals sounds, but I guess that's already been suggested

true lintel
gaunt crystal
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Anyways, nice mod you all created, thank you

trail sleet
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@bitter viper tell me some issues and ill see what i can do

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or just send a list of all the issues here

trail sleet
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anything new or thats all?

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i can probably fix thermal blade

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also did he craft the hull plates

gaunt crystal
trail sleet
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gah

frigid kettle
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i love this moment... he's ramming so many ermsharks and they're biting each other acidentally, he's generating a TRAIL of ermsharks

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a literal ermshark comet m60LUL

waxen orchid
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How many screens were shown last stream? Wasn't there sadly

near kelp
bitter viper
frigid kettle
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its like fireworks lol

bitter viper
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Either they are taking damage from the cyclops itself or the spawning system itself is broken

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They are supposed to get smaller when they split

frigid kettle
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its not broken its beautiful 🥲

bitter viper
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It seemed like most of the ermsharks there were full size

frigid kettle
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true

bitter viper
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Also they don't split infinitely - they have a limit

frigid kettle
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but its really hard to tell in that mess

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aaaah so its not as cruel as i thought

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im glad he finally saw it happen even though he knew already

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when he was stabbing with the prawn suit the splitting was working right

bitter viper
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Yeah

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But not with the thermoblade

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Which is because I assume they are immune to heat damage

frigid kettle
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ye i noticed i started a spam train to tell him to stab one

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and he uses the heat blade m60LUL

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i believe you guys told him before this moment, but he's still surprised about it Tutel

vale jasper
frigid kettle
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AHHAAHAHAHHAHAHHA YES

foggy niche
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Does anyone else get bad fps with this mod? I’m getting anywhere from 10 to 20 fps. My gpu is an RTX 2070 and core i7 cpu

vale jasper
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Possibly due to flocks of ermFishLermFishR somewhere nearby

foggy niche
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Does anyone just have fps issues in general with this game? Without the mod I get a max of 50 fps. Fluctuating around 40 to 50

frigid kettle
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I've played it in VR a few times and that really exposes its lack of optimization... timewarp kicks in often... so yes, it's irregular with framerate

foggy niche
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I thought it was better before the major update.

bitter viper
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That being said, it might indeed be due to the huge swarms of ermfish

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And I have no idea why they are spawning like that Shrugeg

frigid kettle
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maybe reduce poly on ermshark by half if it doesnt make it look shit, it could help (and ermfish while we're at it, i had NOT seen this)

bitter viper
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No ermshark split sounds are playing

frigid kettle
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anyway iirc the ermfish dont split

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thats by far the most ive seen up to now

bitter viper
frigid kettle
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btw did you spawn the shark at the end of that clip? Tomfoolery

trail sleet
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pls spawn ermshark despair

foggy niche
trail sleet
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the current spawn rate is apparently glitched

wind stratus
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Classic case of something having to break for no reason

foggy niche
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Are there Erm shark eggs?

trail sleet
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nope

foggy niche
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Dang

wind stratus
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Its better that they can't reproduce neurOMEGALUL

bitter viper
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Even if ermsharks duplicate when hit by something, when reloading the save they revert back

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So an ermshark can duplicate up to 4 times, meaning that one ermshark can spawn up to.... uhhhhh.... 32 clones

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kekw OOPS

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I should have made that 16 instead

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But still when the save is reloaded all children ermshark disappear and are replaced by the singular ermshark instance that spawned all of them

wind stratus
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Issue now is to get rid of ermnado neurOMEGALUL

bitter viper
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I know how to get rid of them in Vedal's save

trail sleet
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problem is getting rid of the chance for it to happen again

bitter viper
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No idea about that Shrugeg

true lintel
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i'm working on that one

trail sleet
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lowering the spawn rate is an option, but limiting how many can spawn in a chunk would be perfect

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(and despawning them)

bitter viper
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We're using the base-game spawning system

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Regardless of what the spawn rates are there's no reason why there would be so many of them

trail sleet
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while you were afk in his save you spawned 1000 of them

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that is very likely the reason

trail sleet
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you sit afk developing right?

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even if its for not alot of time, he doesnt stay in his base for long

bitter viper
trail sleet
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streaming 6 hours and staying 1h in his base its enough to spawn that many

bitter viper
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No lmao

trail sleet
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even so sharks would have killed them

bitter viper
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There were hundreds of them

trail sleet
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and they would have ran away

bitter viper
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Ermsharks don't attack ermfishes

trail sleet
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normal sharks

bitter viper
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No normal sharks in safe shallows

trail sleet
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weird

bitter viper
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Plus Subnautica has a system that prevents spawning from triggering again

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For the same chunk

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Or something not sure how it works

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But remember that first stream we had no spawns for like 2 hours

trail sleet
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yeah

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you didnt make the erm fish follow him right?

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they act like normal fish

bitter viper
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And I did in fact confirm that in order to get new spawns you need to clear part of the save file which handles saved objects or move to unexplored areas

trail sleet
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it wasnt ermcon either

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he picked them up and they werent acting weird

bitter viper
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both the ermfish and the ermsharks would theoretically have a reason to herd like that

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The erm rapture event for the ermfish and the mitosis for the ermsharks

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It's either those two things happening together

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Or something going wrong with the spawning system

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Thing is...

trail sleet
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you havent touched the spawn system

bitter viper
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We haven't changed anything about the spawning system nor about the ermshark mitosis

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Since last week's stream

trail sleet
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and even in the event system, nothing on the spawn system is mentioned

bitter viper
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Yeah the rapture event doesn't spawn any additional ermfishes

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Only possibility is that it makes them all go to one location for whatever reason

trail sleet
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rates are normal too

bitter viper
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But that still doesn't explain the ermsharks ¯_(ツ)_/¯

trail sleet
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i was getting weird spawnrates when testing the greggs

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even before adding any code, i loaded and i stayed afk for a while

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there werent alot but it was like 20

waxen orchid
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Who had their loading screens shown? I recall seeing @snow tendon 's

frigid kettle
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i think the sharks are taking damage somewhere and splitting without the player doing anything

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and in the cyclops scene where they're popping like fireworks, it's only the full size ones getting killed, so it's full of 75% sharks, which is really hard to differentiate from the full size ones

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i don't think it's broken, rather it's just working incredibly effectively (the only possible problem is when the duplicates spawn they spawn into one another which causes damage and thus another split, but i don't recall creature-to-creature impacts doing damage)

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a way to prevent excessive prolifeation would be to limit the split effect to the player... if an enemy kills it, it should just die

bitter viper
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I can't really tell if a damage is caused by the player or not

rigid stirrup
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add giant erm-fish

true lintel
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it's still the game's fault though NeuroClueless

foggy niche
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Bruh the erm sharks are damaging each other and multiplying infinitely and breaking my game

foggy niche
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Is it possible to get a version of the mod without duplicating Erm Sharks?

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I’m fine with Erm Sharks as long as they don’t duplicate.

wind stratus
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reloading the game will reset them tho

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to original size that is

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Also I think simply making the erm sharks being ignored by other creatures would reduce the issue aswell (if that isn't applied already, I don't remember)

true lintel
wind stratus
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alright Im NeuroClueless and don't know how to make the mod work
I have all the required mods

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Which additional note I think It would be wise to add some short "how to install" instruction in README

true lintel
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did you build from source or install from the releases page? there's instructions in releases

wind stratus
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I am blind

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nevermind

true lintel
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despair been there

wind stratus
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Github is a little confusing UI wise for newcomers

true lintel
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oh yeah it's a classic github moment

wind stratus
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Erm I noticed one interesting thing

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are erm sharks supposed to eat eachother?

true lintel
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no but it's already fixed in the code, there'll be an updated release uhhh at some point

wind stratus
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okay

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I noticed also a huge thing

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any predator acts as ermshark multiplier

true lintel
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it's that obvious huh neurOMEGALUL there's a fix pending for that too

wind stratus
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I spawned 3 erm sharks for testing

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all went to a sand shark

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suddenly there are ermsharks everywhere

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yeah seeing this now

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who thought 32 is a good idea

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jesus christ my game almost crashed

true lintel
wind stratus
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I spawned only like 3 ermsharks and 2 later so in total maybe 5

true lintel
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seems like nature to me NeuroClueless

primal coral
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Ermwhale

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jokes aside good stuff

wind stratus
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that right there is a sand shark

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in the center of ermnado

primal coral
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erm

foggy niche
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Erm Leviathan

primal coral
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Erm mech

wind stratus
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sad that ermviathan won't get to see the light of day

wind stratus
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vedal is already finishing the game and alex doesn't have time

fading anvil
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Alex said he is against adding more content

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:/

trail sleet
foggy niche
trail sleet
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if vedal plays it, ermviathan will be there

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thats what he said i think

fading anvil
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Does Vedal want to play below zero?

trail sleet
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hopefully

wind stratus
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its rather a question of when

fading anvil
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I have a feeling Vedal will play something else before playing below zero

reef hamlet
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Or not play at all for some time

bitter viper
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what do you mean

true lintel
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the CreatureDeath component has a field called respawn that on death creates an object that will respawn the creature

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and it has a very funny default of true

bitter viper
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Okay so then whose fault does that make it

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I don't think that makes it our fault right

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Oooor

true lintel
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either the game or ecc NeuroClueless bad documentation

bitter viper
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What happens if the creature is picked up

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And crafted with

true lintel
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i think it only triggers through OnKill i.e. depleting health

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so it's not what caused the 200 ermfish but it definitely contributed to the ermshark issue

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i opened the inspector in my save and saw 8 respawners, all ermsharks

fading anvil
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Someone seggested adding ErmShark spawning redeem

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Unless people spam it

trail sleet
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global cooldown

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or just make it 20k

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:)

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problem is they can spawn in bases

wind stratus
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and then its a huge problem

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I mean in theory you could kill it, would just be annoying to deal with

frigid kettle
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ye spawn redeem is a bad idea theres gonna be fish in the cyclops after 2 minutes lol

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but from what orangerobot just saw it looks like predators have been multiplying the sharks

wind stratus
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+ermshark attacks other predators

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so it goes to a predator, gets multiplied then escapes and spreads out

frigid kettle
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in your screenshot it looks like ermsharks are attacking ermsharks, again (saw similar with vedal's game)

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not supposed to be possible but the green damage splashes are everywhere

wind stratus
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and only baby ermsharks are being attacked by their own kind

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so if you have at least 2 erm sharks and some other predator you have 64 erm babies on your hands

frigid kettle
wind stratus
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It also likes to hug the cyclops (probably due to trying to attack it but being unable to)

frigid kettle
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ramming them is a really bad idea lol

wind stratus
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yeah what I found out

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even erm shark is hugged to the cyclops

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and cyclops is moving

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it still counts as collision damage

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and multiplies the shark

frigid kettle
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erm comet

wind stratus
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pro of this: you can easily kill an erm shark
Con: multiplies it in the process so if you don't finish the job you just made a bunch of ermsharks

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Which I believe was also happening to vedal

frigid kettle
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yep, it was quite glorious and since he didn't know, the problem was allowed to maximize itself

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literally leaving a trail of ermsharks behind

frigid kettle
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@bitter viper (Nvm me i had a nautilus conflict, this is solved, check lower for progress video) if you're around for a sec, i actually forked the repo and comitted my "tutel" creature (it's literally using the ermfish model till i mess with assets, and it's copied from the ermfish code-wise) and then i noticed that oddly it's not cookable, so i thought i made a bad... but then i recloned the original repo and built that and strangely, the ermfish is also not cookable

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wondering if cookable is borked or if im building this wrong

trail sleet
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are you in creative?

frigid kettle
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no

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bottom left

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i keep suffocating cause im trying to test and i forget im not in creative PepeLaugh

frigid kettle
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fuck yeah nvm i had a conflicting nautilus dll ffs

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reusing ermfish assets for now, i have a few sample vedal "noises" for it, now im gonna figure out how to make it dwell the sea floor like a turtle, then swap its model for the tutel craftable which ill prolly need to rebuild asset bundles for

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the end goal is to have a creature that he WANTS to eat for the water, but if he eats it he has to endure his own yelling PepeLaugh

frigid kettle
primal coral
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Vetel

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tutel

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make him sing Progamming C

frigid kettle
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@bitter viper I made a pull request. I added placeholder art for the PDA and the unlock (which is wrong in this vid). It does now have its own prefab, cook prefab, cure prefab, cooking, eating, hurt, ambient, pickup and scan noises (placeholder sounds, they have yet to be cleaned and sorted properly)

Oh I believe i also fixed tutel's eyes in both the creature and the buildable.

If we can't make this fucker walk, I'll swap the model to Vedalfish, but i wanted this to be an EZ grab that just sits there and lets itself get picked up

primal coral
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cute

frigid kettle
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i still didnt figure out how to make them ground dwelling, but i did find out how to make them move like they're high and drunk accidentally m60LUL

frigid kettle
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bbq; has one eye intentionally missing. when cured both eyes are gone PepeLaugh

frigid kettle
frigid kettle
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Let it be known that after playtesting for an hour, the Ermfish and Tutels are working seemingly normally, but at my home, I cannot stay still for more than 3 seconds. I built a small base so I can quickly hop between the base and the pod. Stalkers started attacking Ermsharks right from the beginning. My home area is now infested with Stalkers and Ermsharks. The Ermlaugh now strikes fear in my heart.
*PS: This is not a complaint... I like it PepeLaugh *

frigid kettle
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Last set of highlights for the night: This showcases what's been done for the "Tutel" and after that, you get to see this game transformed into a psychological action-horror by the Ermsharks around my pod and base.

frigid kettle
waxen orchid
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My best one so far neuroCatErm

bitter viper
waxen orchid
foggy niche
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How do you get the Keep Calm poster? I need it to make a Gymbag.

vernal wasp
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the poster incident despair

wind stratus
foggy niche
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Does it still break the game?

wind stratus
dusty hatch
bitter viper
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@true lintel is creature death respawn thing serialized?

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Or is it set in the prefab?

true lintel
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ecc has a RespawnData in the template that will set it, i didn't bother looking into it more deeply than that since it fixed the issue

true lintel
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gave it a look, it's set on the prefab

bitter viper
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Alright, so existing instances will also get this change

frigid kettle
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yo alex, on the ermfish not dying until it's cooked... how do i "fix" tutel so that it remains cookable and all, but dies normally

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cause obv if i remove the variants, itll break the cooking

bitter viper
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Erm

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Ermfish still being alive after cooking

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Is an oversight

frigid kettle
bitter viper
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It's not on purpose

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It's a bug disguised as a feature

frigid kettle
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so i guess Tutel will be the same for now

bitter viper
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So the answer is... idk

frigid kettle
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cause idk too hahahaha

bitter viper
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ECC has a Cooked creature variant class or something

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An utility which allows you to create cooked and cured variants of creatures

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You could take a look at that and see how it handles modifying the prefab to make it actually dead

frigid kettle
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the good thing is this way, the tutel stays chatty after dying, so the power of schizo remains

bitter viper
frigid kettle
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yep, but i fear not having time to finish that on time, so if you won't mind the immortal tutel do grab the code

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ECC lib is good, but the documentation is more or less "figure it out buddy" PepeLaugh

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i made a new commit with the updated textures and tutel prefab

frigid kettle
vale jasper
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What are we doing?

frigid kettle
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Tutel

vale jasper
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I mean, this databank art looks fine

frigid kettle
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we were hoping you could do something like the ermfish if you got the time

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and thanks, i placeholdered every aspect of it cause i wanted it to be ready

ripe drift
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Big dumpy tutel

bitter viper
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Isn't the model in the icon too reflective?

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I mean I guess it's fine it just looks a bit weird

frigid kettle
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ye let me tweak that for the icons... its not that shiny in game

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and it kinda made the cooked Tutel look like the Golden Tutel PepeLaugh

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much better

vale jasper
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Can it wait until tomorrow?

frigid kettle
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ye i believe so

vale jasper
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PES_Ok I will need a wireframe render with more dense grid though, like before

frigid kettle
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hmmmm ok lemme see if i can do that or reach the artist

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@balmy obsidian if you still have that Tutel model original, can we make a small request? we'd need the front and side wireframe versions for the Subnautica datasheet, because we're turning it into an actual Tutel creature

frigid kettle
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here's a slightly better attempt from my part if all else fails

frigid kettle
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ahhhh much better

frigid kettle
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I cleaned up all the Tutel sounds to give us a head start, so at this point all the sounds I have in there should be good to ship. I also added a few femboy noise gems including his first ever super weird scream PepeLaugh

rigid mirage
frigid kettle
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i love that alex made sure the ermshark ambient noises are just laughs, because it made the ermshark legitimately terrifying lol

foggy niche
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Is it possible to get a version of the mod with Erm Sharks that don’t multiply. I love the design of them, but I don’t love that they literally break my game.

frigid kettle
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at the moment? no, but i think what will end up happening is reducing the ermshark splits to prevent just that

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there will be a fix where environmental/predator damage won't split the sharks iirc

foggy niche
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I think one split per shark would be okay. I had to go to the pre erm shark version because it made the game unplayable.

frigid kettle
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So Alex, not only is there a weird behavior with gravity spawns (watch them fall through the map after spawning because I'm not close enough for the terrain collider to have spawned in) I have a bad feeling some of our spawns may have been coming into existence at the fringes, or outside of geometry... I think Govo's fix resolves that though

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excuse the shaky footage this is zoomed in VR to show the turtles falling through in the distance

frigid kettle
frigid kettle
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i figured out our spawn issues for tutel man... cell level was too large and spawns would be outside of existing terrain collider range

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the time at which i finally resolved my issues at is uncanny PepeLaugh

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@vale jasper hey btw are you cool with the wireframes i posted above? i figured out how to make em through blender in sorts

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this started happening because the cell radius is smaller, so i basically filter the tutel biomes to floor/wall level ones now, so you don't see them spawn and fall, rather by the time you see them they're already foraging

frigid kettle
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no rush, not yet

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you got a couple of days, just as long as my wireframes are better

bitter viper
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It might be a good idea to change the techtype of the ermshark

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So all instances are deleted from old saves

frigid kettle
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so that's how you nuke/reset them... 🤔 nice!

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on two occasions, and this is weird, but i could swear an ermshark spawned... IN me. there's something strange going on. i'll find the video later, i was recording.

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i played for 90 miuntes with govo's spawn filter and my tutel tweaks and it was a lot better, in fact i would say ermfish and tutel needed a tiny 🤏 probability increase

bitter viper
frigid kettle
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90 minutes, three ermsharks encountered... i'll get to test some more today to see if it builds up quickly

vale jasper
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Sorry, I won't be available for the databank art.

frigid kettle
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aight fair enough, ill try to put something nice together

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i do like that little ruler you did on the ermfish one, it's very cool

vale jasper
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Projects from previous entries

bitter viper
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Thank you cj Prayge

trail sleet
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:(

frigid kettle
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at 10:28 something weird happened and i think i get it now... i am 60% sure that ermshark physically pulled out a tutel from my inventory POGGERS

frigid kettle
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i updated my PR with this

frigid kettle
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i also did a quick test on an old save with about two hours in, and surprisingly i found tutels rather quickly, so old saves won't be void of them

frigid kettle
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ok quick playtesting report:
-increase ermfish spawn probability, they're there but very sparse (with Gov's fixes of course)
-ermshark is perfect now... i encountered 3 in about 100 minutes. every single one caught me off guard. every single one gave me a hard time, but the quantity was fair. this is without the damage fix, only the spawn fix
-tutel distribution is perfect, and i even got to test its ability to walk on land... also perfect!

also the tutel saying "im a famous v-tuber" is just so appropriate PepeLaugh

frigid kettle
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i'll have a busy one at work tomorrow, but alex if you work on this and need anything urgent just straight up dm/ping me... my PR seems solid at this point, feel free to review/merge

bitter viper
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why did you unpack it ReallyMad

frigid kettle
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the tutel buildable? because the others were unpacked, and the turtle had a few components added onto its original prefab that didn't seem to want to show up in game (ie the eyes)

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my creature didn't need the unpacking, so the og prefabs are still there

bitter viper
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@frigid kettle no inventory sounds is on purpose?

frigid kettle
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even though we talked about this, yeah for the record vedal sound bytes are a lot harder to come by than neuro

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i was maybe gonna have a chance to come back in the code and add my twitch subscriber event (i have 6 sound bytes of vedal saying "thanks" or "thanks for the sub") where i wanted tutel to have a 15% chance of saying "thanks" when we detect a new sub.... BUT i think the bully mechanic makes up for this and more

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speaking of, who thought of the bully mechanic and ermcon? was it govo? both ideas are amazing

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i didnt include this in my PR because it felt a bit sloppy

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my logic is vedal would eventually notice that when neuro is thanking new subs, the tutel sometimes says thanks too, and he would realize what's going on PepeLaugh

frigid kettle
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and i just managed to free up my saturday, so excited about this i won't have to vod-rewatch hypers

frigid kettle
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based take on among us alex KEKW (amazing it's your favorite game and you love it)

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i actually never liked that game, i don't want to see the good liar in people, it exposes too many inner demons

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BUT I admit it's perfect for neuro to gaslight people PepeLaugh

bitter viper
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dont want vedal to hear about it

frigid kettle
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hey this thread is perfect... no vedals allowed

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check my edit NeuroClueless

snow tendon
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When is the next sinnaitica stream?

trail sleet
snow tendon
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@bitter viper do you have access to Neuros voice module (Or whatever you people like to call it these days) becuase you fcould replace the voiceover with Neuro

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Also please change the AA hull plate back to rickroll

snow tendon
trail sleet
snow tendon
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Oh k

true lintel
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it's been suggested before, the usual answer is that the mod shouldn't replace anything from the base game

frigid kettle
bitter viper
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is there also an audio file of her saying ermfish or ermshark?

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i remember there being one

frigid kettle
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i'll look around this evening

trail sleet
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ill try and grab it

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wont be clean tho, only cj can do that

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actually probably not, even with vedal saying ermfish she refers to them as "fish"

frigid kettle
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@bitter viper i should be able to hook you up with both in about 6-7 hours when im back home

trail sleet
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how did you get that

frigid kettle
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magic NeuroClueless

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jk CJ told me how to generate neuro's voice

rigid mirage
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If only Microsoft Azure didn't need every last bit of personal information...

frigid kettle
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it was worth for the what? 500k free characters hehe

rigid mirage
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500k? Jesus

snow tendon
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poggerz

bitter viper
frigid kettle
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the fuck happened there?! KEKW

wind stratus
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Holy I got jumpscared by that

frigid kettle
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the only way to get out of that is to kite the sharks to a large group of tutels

vernal wasp
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the monstrosity

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do they merge into a leviathan ermshark

frigid kettle
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The Subnautica Ermspansion DLC™ truly converts the game into sheer horrror

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come to think about it im gonna try the mod with my 4 hour save to make sure it doesnt do this shit organically lol

bitter viper
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Can a mod please unpin troobs' 2 messages in this channel?

trail sleet
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only if you were a mod

bitter viper
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I gave that up voluntarily

trail sleet
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you probably should ping one, cj was the only one who frequented this thread

bitter viper
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Thanks

frigid kettle
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just gave the latest mod a good long shakedown... did not get overwhelmed by ermsharks... i did have an encouter with two at the same time, but it was manageable. i even remained in the area for quite some time without being excessively harrassed

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oh i think the asset bundle on the repo isn't up to date, i just noticed the tutel is supposed to animate

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thank you guys for doing all that btw everything is getting so dynamic now

bitter viper
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No no no

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Don't build the asset bundle :)

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It's out of date on purpose

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Cuz it's unfinished

frigid kettle
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ahhhhhh kk gotcha

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i did take a peek though Pepemorning

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i'll send you a gif via DM... this is too cute but i dont wanna spoil here lol

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btw for the tutel carry script, avoid using scan sounds, because it might spoil the "alex what have you done" that plays when he scans it

fossil aurora
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i think screaming tutel carried by a shark is pretty funny tbh

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i don't think that soundbite makes much sense for the scan sound (just my 2 pence)

frigid kettle
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idk out of all sounds it's the best one for scan, as if vedal gets mad that alex added him in the game databank

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like he's trapped in there forever PepeLaugh

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not gonna lie it IS funny to hear it when the ermsharks are bullying him

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but the cooking, hurt and eating sounds are also included and those are all shouting, especially the "woo"s

bitter viper
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imma replace it with the meow

fossil aurora
frigid kettle
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im a famous vtuber would be good too, but keep that one in the noises because we wanna hear it OFTEN

fossil aurora
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might have more impact as a one-off for scan

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not sure

frigid kettle
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i cannot disagree

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but its so funny PepeLaugh

fossil aurora
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cause you have to consider that he will scan them

frigid kettle
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yep

fossil aurora
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so it's guaranteed to be heard

frigid kettle
fossil aurora
frigid kettle
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cooking

fossil aurora
bitter viper
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ok which one do i need to add and where

frigid kettle
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neither its already in there

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im just sharing them here so we can listen to em

fossil aurora
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still hear a bit of bomb ticking in the first one

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one sec, gonna clean it up

frigid kettle
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idk why but vedal sounbytes specifically have been a nightmare to clean up

frigid kettle
snow tendon
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xD

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Vedals voice is a pain in the audacity

frigid kettle
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pain in the Audition, even

snow tendon
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xD

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Hey @bitter viper funny idea. Wou.dn't it be easier to train Neuro if we gave her access to a shell >:D

soft basin
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access to the turtle shell NeuroPoggers

snow tendon
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XD

fossil aurora
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oh i have no upload permissions on this account lol

frigid kettle
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cutting it close af lol

bitter viper
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already sent the file

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i cant send just this file and tell him to override it cuz it would spoil the existance of the tutel

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i would have to send the whole rar

true lintel
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rip

fossil aurora
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unfortunate

frigid kettle
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yep we're not letting vedal in the folders 😡

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did you pack it safely by having the rar contain another rar again? Peepoblanket

bitter viper
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time to despawn some ermsharks

frigid kettle
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isekai

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we dont KILL them.

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we send them to the higher realm

fossil aurora
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do ermsharks go to heaven

frigid kettle
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well, despawn worked nicely

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but it left the one in the sub PepeLaugh

wind stratus
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the amount there was tho jeez

frigid kettle
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it was 1/10th what there was last stream

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hes got the fast vehicles he can manage

wind stratus
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the ermsharks tho need an update to where they either engage, attack and then disengage the cyclops or where they don't target cyclops at all

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cuz their tailing skills are admirable

frigid kettle
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so cool to see the ermsharks on radar

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no more despawning!! lol NO ELP

wind stratus
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most Ermsharks died due to natural selection iaraShrug

frigid kettle
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the only bummer here is the despawn range so we have to clean the map bit by bit

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as he goes to infested areas

fossil aurora
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alex neurOMEGALUL

wind stratus
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truly wonderful moment

waxen orchid
frigid kettle
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lovely, lovely

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"i see her everwhere" KEKW

waxen orchid
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ErmCon is really big

cunning charm
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Has he found big lady cure fish already?

frigid kettle
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i wonder if well need to force spawn tutels

wind stratus
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yep

cunning charm
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Ah alright

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So he's literally at the end of the game now

fossil aurora
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last stream yeah

waxen orchid
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Anyone see what loading screen was shown today?

fossil aurora
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paccha's

frigid kettle
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so if i get this right it got this bad because the sharks split, then you save, then you reload and all the split ermsharks spawn full size, and in turn split some more, and more, and more

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@bitter viper his older save is littered with old spawn nodes... it does not do that if you start clean with our updates

bitter viper
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do the spawn nodes not disappaer

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when spawning an entity

frigid kettle
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i dont think so, it seems

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cause everytime he goes back its like a tornado

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unless he just keeps running into the old ones that he hadnt triggered yet

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lets see when he goes back

waxen orchid
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@bitter viper Any surprises for game ending?

trail sleet
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yeah

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vedal has to craft everything

bitter viper
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i didnt add that

waxen orchid
frigid kettle
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so it does seem to be clearing the nodes the ermsharks in this area didnt respawn

waxen orchid
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Would be hella funny if all the Ermsharks just merged into one giant entity, would take a lot of time to program though

frigid kettle
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also he now suspects he's in the game PepeLaugh

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but he's also annytfBlind

fossil aurora
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smol eyes tutel

waxen orchid
regal geode
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i swear you're gonna spawn a tutel next to him every 5 minutes for an hour and he's gonna find a way to miss all of them

cunning charm
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spawn so many tutels to make his game lag so much that he goes to look for the source of the lag

waxen orchid
fossil aurora
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perfect voiceline rng

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alex that's evil lmao

wind stratus
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hol ip

bitter viper
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he saw me spawn it

wind stratus
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am I blind or is NoOxygen on?

snow tendon
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xD

bitter viper
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its bugged idk why

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it happened again

snow tendon
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Can you give us the command lines for spawning shit

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:D

wind stratus
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only alex can do it

cunning charm
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His game would crash in a matter of minutes if the chat had access

fossil aurora
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that sounds like a good idea, surely NeuroClueless

cunning charm
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It's a perfect idea

waxen orchid
waxen orchid
fossil aurora
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"gave" is a strong word in that sentence

wind stratus
snow tendon
frigid kettle
snow tendon
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Hey @bitter viper are we still doing amongus thing

trail sleet
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yes alex and vedal are still working on the thing

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you dont need to constantly ask

snow tendon
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Well no one tells me becuase I'm part of the github and I do stuff but I don;t know if theres any point in me doing it lol

frigid kettle
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wow a normal quantity of ermsharks

snow tendon
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xd im not watching the stream is vedal being shat on by mob spam

snow tendon
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;=;

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ALEX FIX THIS!

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xD

wind stratus
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My brother in christ if you want to comment at least watch the stream NeuroClueless

frigid kettle
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you can spawn tutels in the indoor areas too, i spawned one in my base and let it walk around PepeLaugh

snow tendon
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10neuros to give me remote access to vedals computer

waxen orchid
trail sleet
wind stratus
snow tendon
trail sleet
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you have no forks...

snow tendon
trail sleet
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why would you private a fork

waxen orchid
bitter viper
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you cant private a fork

snow tendon
trail sleet
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and that

trail sleet
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you are competing with alex on a public project where everyone helps

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i wouldnt even consider a competition

fossil aurora
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can we not argue in the subnautica thread annytfPepeW

snow tendon
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I'll upload some shit later

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There no changes right now

fossil aurora
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alex spawn 50 tutels we must make him read the lore neuroMad

bitter viper
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if he reaches the end without finding any i will

frigid kettle
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actually, best time to do it is while he swims in the open under the platform

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theyll just plop to the bottom and he'll eventually meet a few

soft basin
snow tendon
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ahahahaaaa

soft basin
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why does it not appear to be animated thonk

fossil aurora
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discord 🚬

snow tendon
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xD

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Bro sent a single frame GIF

fossil aurora
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works fine in the browser

snow tendon
soft basin
fossil aurora
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7tv it camziXdx