Terraria Mod Lesgo

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I would love to see Vedal play terraria with Anny and Neuro. Maybe someone can make a mod that adds a Neuro NPC that you can upgrade to help fight bosses/follows you and stuff?

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free labor so vedal doesnt have to do the modding

the community is pretty fast with making these mods as seen with the Euro Truck Simulator mod but i think the request for it needs to come from the tutel himself for it to happen

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yess i would love to see terraria stream

honestly i have a minor amount of terraria modding experience, but im clueless when it comes to making sprites

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#1141662008073265352 message
i made a sprite for neuro, i could make some edits for the animations too if you want

[frail cosmos]

TERRARIA

TERRAIRA

TEIRA

RARRIA

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@latent sigil neuro has asymmetrical legs and its difficult to tell which leg is supposed to be in front in some of these frames since none of the npcs have asymmetrical legs for an example, is there a way to tell which one is in front or do we just have to import it into terraria and see if it looks wrong?

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if the npc changes direction the sprite is just flipped so i think its just one in front of the other

pick one

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oh no, ive already picked that, its just these walking frames look a little funny and its hard to tell which leg is which

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(oh yeah and for anyone else, this is discussion about terraria mod continued from the art thread)

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oh

ah i see what u mean

are you looking at any of the vanilla npcs

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yeah im using party girl as a base

she has stockings so i thought it would help me with the diagonal angle legs

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do u have her sprite sheet?

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ye

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i mean id like to see it

i dont know where to get it lol

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i found a sprite rip online

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ic

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heres my progress so far, though i havent been able to work on it much

its the single leg frames that are confusing me

im not entirely sure the frames are in order either

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this single leg frame here its for the leg in front

i think

wait 2 are the same wtf

actually i think they're meant to just be the same leg

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huh

weird

also the walking frames lower down the lines that i havent done yet are a little weird

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yea the individual sprites do look funny

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im not saying theyre bad animators because it looks good in game but its a bit confusing for me to tell which leg it is

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you should make her job the "AI"

also we could have a small chance of being named Nuero-sama (you could do this by putting Neuro-sama multiple times and Nuero-sama only once in the possible list of names)

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good idea lmao

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what i meant by this is that it would appear as "Neuro-sama the AI has arrived!" if you set her job to AI (like Andrew the Guide's job is Guide)

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and for this, it doesnt really work because then like for example in the bestiary shes just "AI" with no mention of neuro

i was thinking of just modifying the arrival message

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that also works, i dont think the bestiary is too big of a deal if you cant modify it though

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hm

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make neuro sell turtle armor

this will be balanced

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999 plat

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she could sell the karate tortoise set (ninja turtle but for legal reasons has a different name)

@latent sigil also, you said in the art discussion the requirement for her spawning is catching a turtle, but theres forest and jungle turtles as separate items. do they both count or just the forest turtle?

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i only counted one but both can it can easily be changed to whatever

including both

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i think both would be good if possible, i wonder if vedal will be able to find out the spawn conditions though, its a little out of your way to catch

vedal found the modded content in subnautica because its in your face, but neuro in terraria would be harder to stumble into with the current spawn conditions i think

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fair

i mean it could always just be told to him lol

or again it can be changed to whatever

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maybe steal the nurses spawn conditions

using a crystal heart

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also could just make her have no spawn conditions and be available by default, which would probably work best for stream

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could always do that for stream then update the mod after

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id prefer them to be the same version so id rather stick to catch tutel

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you should repost this in #neuro-memes

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silly

its beautiful

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what attack type is she set to? is she melee or something else @latent sigil

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no clue!

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since im using party girl base sprites theyre melee

but i can use a different base for the attack if needed

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isnt part girl ranged

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you right

i was thinking of stylist

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lol

i think they're interchangeable anyway

rn neuro doesnt have a projectile or anything but it can be set to whatever really

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i feel like any attack type suits neuro

party girl throws grenades

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neuro deploys the swarm

drone projectile

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im not sure how you could make that look good but i could add a drone jump in frame for shooting

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wdym

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i could make a drone appear to be the thing shooting with neuro commanding it

could also do this

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oh that would be a seperate sprite

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yes

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oh

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it would be over neuros attacking sprite

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i was just thinking a drone projectile spawns when she uses her attack that acts a bit like a minon then despoawns after hitting a couple enemies or after a certain time

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hey if you know how to code that be my guest

i think that might make a good summon weapon idea though

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its easy i steal code :)

true lol

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i think keeping her attacks the same as others is fine

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i like this idea, if you can make her shoot bullets without actually holding a gun (instead being part of the sprite)

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ooh ic

sounds complicated tho lol

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the arms dealer shoots bullets, is it possible to yoink his attacking code?

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yea but he uses a gun

thats the easy part

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you know what, neuro uses a gun

why not

it doesnt matter too much

i there a way to change it from the arms dealers gun into a different gun?

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i assume it can just be whatever

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not as in a modded gun it can be a base gun

give her the glock

the Handgun

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? is it not possible

or just for no reason

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just an

ill figure it out

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ok 👍

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lol

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good to see the party hats look ok on her head

thanks for implementing name btw

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nuero name was a requirement

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@latent sigil i just found out that different npcs have a different number of walking frames. do you know how many frames this modded npc has?

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@peak compass has leveled up! (8 ➜ 9)

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should be the same frames as the one i sent in the other thread

i havent changed it from that

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will using arms dealers attacks change that?

arms dealer has the same number of attack frames but more walking frames than party girl

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not sure

i think if you fill in the ones from the example sheet i sent it will be fine (maybe)

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ok. i wasnt following them because the default npcs are easier to use as a template but ill use your example now for the correct frames

if worst comes to worst i need to remove or add a frame

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i mean you can use the default npcs it just needs to match up with the those ones

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ok, it looks like party girl has -1 frame for some reason

so ill need to add 1

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maybe the resource you were using was incomplete?

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maybe. i wont say i got it from an official source

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🔥

in other news,

im wondering if i should keep it double res or bump it down to terraria res

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can you make a bigger painting?

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i can

this one is 6x3

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ideally terraria res is best

but we also want it to be readable

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terraria sprites are on a 2x2 pixel grid

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abandonded archive painting (1/4)

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its a jigsaw

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assemble it like exodia

or whatever it was called

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i just realised i had a bug where the neuro death sound is global

acutally

custom neuro death sound....

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yes thank you

(even tho its evil)

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can you change her damage sounds too or does that not work

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i probably can

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do erf

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can you send it

its one of the few i dont have lol

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didnt download, let me scan the servers archives

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ow

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i did what i thought was a thorough search but i dont think anyone saved it

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aaaaa

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@latent sigil ive gone and ripped the audio myself. was a bit difficult since ive never done it before

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wow

she will be erfed

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i think the reason it wasnt ripped already is that the pirate ship sounds sfx vedal was playing was very loud

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understandable

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i tried putting a "remove background noise" filter on it but it didnt completely solve the issue

hopefully the amount of sfx still in there is acceptable

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it will be fine with terraria bgm

i dont even hear it

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true

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well the volume is a little low so ill have to boost it

neuro bullying

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sounds really good

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6x12

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better erm

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much better

idk if the animations are scuffed because i dont know exactly when the missing frames play

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im rn but if its broke ill fix it tomorrow

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!!

looks great, ill test it

and gn lol

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thanks

took me a lot longer than i thought it would, i thought it would just be a few simple edits lol

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spitework is hard 🔥

i think its perfect lmao

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can i see how it looks before i sleep?

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yep

hold on

i forgot it was a party lol

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i cant tell because of the slants but she does look a little shuffly

i think i messed up

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wait let me check smth

ok that happens with other npcs

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its normal

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oh wait

ok yeah there is i think 1 wrong frame

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flat ground

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yeah thats pretty bad, ill have to fix that tommorow for sure

i think the main issue is that its hard to compare female walk cycles to male walk cycles so ill have to try and find a female template with the correct amount of frames

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hmm

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the women are a bit thinner so they dont quite line up

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@peak compass here, taken straight from game files

i can do any other npc too

just had to rip and convert it

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it doesnt have enough frames

none of the female sprites do

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huh

ur kinda right

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need 40x1400

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this is not what i was looking for

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either you need to figure out how to use less walking sprites or i need to do some original leg work

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it would be nice to know why the female sprites are different

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i think its because the men have more leg to move so theres more pixel room to show bending? maybe

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almost all characters are the same size

besides for angler who i think is a bit shorter

but i figured it out, the walk cycle is different

so i think it will have to be fitted to female sheet then fixed on my end

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i have it fixed to party girls frames already

if youre coding this the way this tutorial says, maybe you can change the ai style in the code to match party girl's?

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im gonna try the ultimate method

"just put it in and hope it works without having to change anything"

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it will work

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AHAHAHA

oh boy

i have to show this

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btw these are too small, needs to be upsized

that might be an issue if you just dragged and dropped

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yep

i dragged and dropped

it did not go well

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neuro gamba

this one is resized

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2 pixel grid

i love nearest neighbour upscale

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wait did i do it wrong

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its probably good

i beat you to it anyway 🔥

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oh ok

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ok so its still scrolling, i think i have to set a walk frame count parameter somewhere

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i think its ai style @latent sigil

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all npcs are style 7

im pretty sure

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guide is style 7 i thought

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style 7 is just for all passive npcs

i remember doing something like this when i modded in a custom pet

back in 1.3

i had to set some other parameter or something

wait actually i wonder if i still have that code

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huh ok, the tutorial guide was misleading then

they said style 7 is the guide

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i mean

guide is style 7 does not nessecarily mean style 7 is guide

oh im blind

lmao yep changing this should fix it

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it did not fix it

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(why)

hmm

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is the issue not knowing party girls internal name?

partygirl party_girl or something

ok wiki says its PartyGirl

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i got autocomplete for that

lol

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ah ok

Main.npcFrameCount[npc.type]

i think its this one @latent sigil

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i think you might be right

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i love ancient forums

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absolute mood

you are a genius lmao

ok so it worked

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can i see how it looks in game

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one step ahead of you

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is this how it should look? it looks kind of funny when im scrutinizing it but idk if thats just how npcs look

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dyad walk looks the same

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ok so its normal

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yea looks normal

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are you able to modify what npcs she likes and dislikes

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yes

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i feel like she would love the zoologist since its a foxgirl

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i can also change what npcs dislike and like her

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likes zoologist and cyborg

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what would be love then

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not all npcs have a love so its not nessecarily needed

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ah thats true

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or

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(TaxCollectorName) is very Corpa. heart

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instead of evil being a shimmer ver, its a seperate npc and they love eachother

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lmaoo this needs to be a thing

wait the default like speech should be "{0} is based and booba."

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i think you can set it up so that the lines are said if the npc is in the world

regular npcs do that at least

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yea

can do stuff like this

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"Mods.nuerosama.Dialogue.Neuro.PartyGirlDialogue"

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my favourite iconic nuero line

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whats the character limit on dialogue @latent sigil

just how much of the gymbag rant can you cram in

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oh my god

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if you dont have it i can dm it to you

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i found it

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ive also just now written an adapted form of it that changes the grammer to be talking to you instead of her audience

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the grammar errror literally on the word "grammar" is ironic there lol

also jeez lmao

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thats a spelling error

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close enough!!!

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i noticed but decided not to edit

so should i send it or nah with the approiate gramer

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sure

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I'm a little conflicted about it because saying stuff that doesnt make sense is neuro's thing, (who is you guys? its just me) but also the immersion

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also goddamnit more debugging

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ok i dmed you (i dont think i can post big text in discussions)

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cuts off here

(also im keeping the "you guys" its funnier)

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fair

ok well i was supposed to a few hours ago so ill sleep now

great progress today

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gn

great progress indeed

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cool work u 2

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@latent sigil evil neuro is finished (i still think it should be a shimmer form since if its another npc we have to come up with stuff for her to sell and write more lines)

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omg

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if we do make them seperate ill make the shimmer form hiyori

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lmao i had that idea too

stop stealing my braincells

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great minds think alike

@latent sigil i also came up with a few lines, as well as who she dislikes, the tavernkeep because he is bald

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are these all neuro lines?

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yeah all quotes from her, except the likes and dislikes

well the tavern keep dislike is quoting her comments on asmongold

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lmao

also why are your quotes weird

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i feel like theres a lot of good quotes on her twitter but i tried to rely more on her stream lines

i only used a twitter quote for her blood moon comment

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wait do you mean quotation marks or the phrases themselves

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like the text

how do you even get it like that

lol

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probably because i typed it up in the mac notes app

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and you have different types of quotation marks lmao

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aintnoway

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mac is scuffed idk

it looks normal to me

other than the different quote marks

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that aint a normal file!!

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i can try and redo it

@latent sigil i cant get it to display the scuffed text so is it possible for you to fix it

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yes

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thanks

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evil

oh also i was thinking
would it look better if she was like 1 pixel shorter? idk it might fit her design into the context of terraria npcs better

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shes 5'11

people only headcanon her as short

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well its about the feel not the canon height

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(also if we keep this height i dont need to redo it)

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artistic libreties

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so true

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it was hard enough making it look like neuro with this amount of pixels

i dont know where i should chop to make it still look good

maybe torso because all leg pixels are essential

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i mean i dont think you need to do it lol

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ok thats good

well what now? should i make a neuro fumo furniture item?

idk how easy furniture is to code in

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ive already done 2 🔥

wait 3 if you include music box

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well those were paintings right

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the thing is

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is it possible to put something that places like a workbench for example

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at first i accidentally made one of the paintings a ground placeable furniture

so uh

its easier if anything

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oh ok

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lol

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whats the pixel dimensions

per block i mean

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actually i was gonna add a neuro fumo either way, i already downloaded the sticker image

8px per block

16px if you include the 2px grid

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i feel like i dont want it too big, im gonna see how bad 8 bit fumo is first

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at least 2x2

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well i suppose it doesnt need to take up the full space

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as long as it sits

also theres a weird thing where it has to be split up per tile but ill do that on my end

erm has been chopped

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do you need the inventory sprites for these items too

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yes

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what size are they

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well

let me check something

the sprite sizes in inv are not consistent at all lmao

what size are you making the thing?

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ok in that case ill use furniture of similar size as reference

2x2 fumo

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2x2 should be fine to use the same sprite

chest does that

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ok i still want to make low pixel versions of the paintings though

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the ones i did?

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yeah

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the neuro cat erm one is perfect already

🔥

im looking thru sprites and it seems anything over 2x2 has a smaller item texture

including 3x2 and 2x3

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ok i will at least make one for abandoned archive but i still think they both need it

i think pixelly would be funny

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i mean i did have a thing for it

wait let me improve it

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thats good

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perfect

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how possible are custom pets?

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if you're copying the ai from another pet then easy

custom ai is scary

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ok well most pets act the same anyway so its not a big deal to use copy pasting

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99% of coding is copy pasting

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here comes pache

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My idea from the start:

1. Make the neuro fumo pet similar to the slime jump, basically fumo jump
2. The pet summon item drops on neuro death (it will be funny)
3. I wanna do the sprite please please pretty please I did a bit of progress since konomi showed a bit of the mod to me and I had absolutely no idea this was an actual mod development (i had to pause it because of uni)

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neuro fumo isnt a pet its furniture and also im currently working on it

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(he had a funny idea)

((you both had a similar funny idea))

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Ok but imagine it following you while bouncing

(Its just a suggestion but you can do your thing if that's not what you want, no problem)

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well theres no reason we cant do both furniture and pet but i think sprite consistency is important so i think i would have to create both

fumo (sentient) and fumo

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i mean theres no harm in both of you having some fun with it

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flashbacks to when i tried to make a pet that bounced as it followed you (i went thru hell)

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steal eye spring ai

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yea when i did it i was trying to do it in a specific wacky way to make it consistent with other things

in this case it would be easier

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You mean the pekora nousagi pet?

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yes that one

remember how it never worked properly

like the animation was weird

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heres the furniture @latent sigil

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smol

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oh wait i need to resize it

it needs to be double that size

well since youre sectioning it anyway you probably can do that

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yea i did all that

honestly i should just make a script to resize and section automagically

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im wondering if its too big tho

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idk ould be kind funny if it is

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could be wider

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i thought blocks were 8x8

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they are

thats 2x2 tiles

by wider i mean like visually

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it takes up the whole 16x16 area

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what

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i tried an edit

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whats different other than the smile

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wider face

here are some images from starbound, idk if they'll help

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ok i made an edit

does more need changing than just the face?

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thiccer legs maybe?

they feel kinda underwhelming

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i can try, the issue is i cant make her taller

unless we change her to 2x3

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yeah ill make too but im working on this one rn

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that was just my reaction

icon

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looks good

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i literally downloaded the stream demo only to extract the icon lmao

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worth

now you have an amazing game and mod

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holy

btw this is the tooltip lmao

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ok actually i guess seeing the skirt isnt that important

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oh actually i like that

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i also added more texturing

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ok now evil fumo i guess.

...i forgot the skulls onn evil

ok so ill need to retexture evil neuro and then ill make the evil fumo

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newvil moment

hey if evil is a seperate npc thats a free shimmer variant

old evil and new evil

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well my texture was supposed to be *new evil

i wont give her horns since thats supposed to be a toggle even though all the fanart includes it

unless theres a way to steal the zoologists full moon code for a transformation

but thats only if evil is seperate

oh wait

we can shimmer the toggles

neuro cat toggle and evil horn toggle

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hiyori is dead

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shimmering toggles is less effort than spriting up a hiyori almost nobody will see

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true

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ok but

evil cat...

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well theres full moon transformation for horn toggle

wonder how devil cat would look lol

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well if you did that youd have to sprite it lol

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its like 3 pixels for both

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it would be pretty cramped in pixel space

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were talking about the npc right?

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well

horns and ears

both just on the head of a pixel character

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oh i see what you mean

ill figure it out

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also idk how hard the full moon thing will be to implement

it will probably have to be implemented manually

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actually ive never seen how the zoologist transforms in game lmao

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she becomes a furry

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ye but i havent had a look at the actual process

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also happens on blood moons

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does she just like poof and change

i assume so

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i dont think theres any special animation, she doesnt even poof

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huh

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jolting sprite change

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ok anyway neko mode sounds good for now and maybe we can figure out full moon after lol

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👍

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the

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@latent sigil evil hurt sound?

also think kek would be good idk

maybe frick is the death sound and kek is the hurt sound

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i forgot i was supposed to fix evil first but i made neuro shimmer form

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heres fixed evil neuro to have skull hairpin

and the shimmered neko form

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heres evil fumo

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✨

looks really nice, i will implement them now

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do you know if the fumos can be placed on top of tables

i know some furniture can and others don’t

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can fhe fumos be rotated so that their backs are to each other or they face each other

thats another thing that some furniture has and others don’t, being able to flip them

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fumos are not flippable rn but ill change it

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thanks

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the flippage

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when youve finished with this, can you check how the neuros react to enemies? do they try to attack them, and if so, how?

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rn they try to attack but nothing happens

they just swin their arm

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i love it

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yay

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ok makes sense

it would be funny if they just punched enemies actually

idk if thats possible

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evil too

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so good

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(i realised i could do this with the code)

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copy pasting classes

can evil neuro sell pizza

i think pizza is in the game right

ok it is but its actually a high tier food item so it might need to be expensive to be balanced

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might break balance a bit if they sell new ways to get vanilla items

oh but that reminds me i had an idea

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viva la pizza revolution

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so you can add new currencies to the game....

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actually idk if the effort for implementation on smth like will be worth it lmao

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you can, its just overengineering

yeah

different currencys might be interesting for a mod that adds several npcs but idk if it works for our scope

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the tavernkeep in question:

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i dont like defender medals either

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🔥

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neuro doesnt like the tavernkeep either

hes bald

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bald man

i feel like she wouldnt really have much in the way of likes and dislikes
like if you watch her streams shes so inconsistent with most of the things she says she likes or doesnt like lol

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yeah but i want the asmongold reference

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so true

i mean like in general, we shouldnt worry about putting much there

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also i dont think likes and dislikes have unique dialogue for each person with the same amount of like so i might need to scale it down

love: evil
like: zoologist
dislike: tavernkeep

thats what im thinking

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lol

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leaving it at that seems ok

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i might have to override the "get full name" function to just return the npc name

and not include the job

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cant you hardcode it to not even say the npc name and just say "Evil"

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well that would be the same thing but in reverse

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well if you add an Eliv alt name then it would be worth checking npc name

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yea this would be checking npc name

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beat you to it

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i figured you might of

Eliv Nuero

(i dont think we should do more than eliv neuro)

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oh wait just noticed

shimmer neuro/evil tails

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o

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they are tailless

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<- he just like me frfr

forgetting tail

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lmao

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after i fix that im not sure what else i should work on

maybe ill make pet

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yes

how about a custom brick block named "donowall"

so you can build a donohouse

a vanity accessory that works like the warewolf or mermaid one but turns you into a vedal-like tutel

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terraria doesnt have any white grouted brick blocks so i think it could work

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neuro/evil wigs

with cat variants and tail accesories

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oh yeah i plan to add vanity sets

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oh true just do the whole set

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i wonder if you can test for if theyre shimmered

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shimmer recipes are easy to add

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because regular npcs have sell conditions

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ooh

yeah i already have that coded

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ohh shimmering the vanity works to

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for something i was testing

both could work

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we could do both actually

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lmao

same braincell

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yeah it would be very terraria for both to work

u just like me frfr

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oh yeah have you put the dialogue i gave you yet? ive only seen gymbag rant so far

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not yet lol

guess ill figure some of that out now

side note, install a new text editor lol

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like what

i use google docs at most if im being extra fancy

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i use sublime text 3

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i have it downloaded i just dont use it

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💀 💀 💀

evil dialogue

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i need to watch some clips to gather quotes again for evil

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just ask discussion

ez line farming

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https://tenor.com/view/dono-wall-talking-wall-bricks-gif-17741481

me asking #1140726822997332038 message for neuro lines

ohhh you mean a new discussion

yeah im seeing what you mean by using sublime text, idk what a <0x2028> is

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i mean yes but thats so silly lmao

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shes said before that she hates everyone

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you cant trust her tho

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yes i know you take her words with a grain of salt because of changing opinions but its fairly consistent

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i feel like that would be something she says rather than something thats actually reflected in game mechanics

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oh thats true

actually i think the happiness quotes might become scuffed in areas with lots of npcs if we did that

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i didnt even think about that lmao

an endless list

happiness quotes are already trash in vanilla lol

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yeah but i thought it would make for fun lines

although idk if anyone actually reads these lol

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@latent sigil i removed the weird characters and redid the likes and dislikes lines

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wow

all neuro?

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yeah i still need to get some evil lines

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also the quotes are still weird lmao

but its ok

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how so

are the weird characters still there or just the quotation marks

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" " vs “ ”

also do you have a clip for the anny one

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i dont, i just vaguely remember her saying that AnnyTFLebronJam is an anagram to anny

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i remember her talking about anny with anagrams and also saying something was "an anny" but i wanna see it for myself lol

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yeah i dont remember and searching the quote isnt helping

i fixed the quotes and also the evil happiness quote was scuffed

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yea

changing this line based on evidence

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true. she says both tho

"Ved"

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an anny https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI0Bl-19wL4

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we have to pick between "anagram" and "an anny" because both at the same time sound bad

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this is what i put in so far

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does the backslash spam mess with the code

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i too scared to find out

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whats evil dialogue

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if i escape every backslash with another backslash it should be fine

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dialogue for when evil exists in the world

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ah ok

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but not the happiness dialogue

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wait world evil or Evil Neuro

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nue

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ah ok

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i love editing localisation files with the game open

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i didnt know you could do that

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me neither until the other day i tabbed back in while editing it and it happened lol

also i skipped a few from the ones you sent, are there any from the screenshot in #1142356194158198794 that i didnt add but you feel should definitely be in there?

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i really wanted the dodge charger line but i wouldnt call it neccessary

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ill add it

also fun fact

its not only your quotes that were fucked, apostrophes too lmao

’ vs '

silly

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im never typing anything in notes app again

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(fixed tho)

wtf give me my newline

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is it not working because of lack of spaces

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no clue but i just made it a multi line quote lol

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so it works now

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well

actually i dont think it accepts escaping characters

hjson is weird

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it says \\n online

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i dont think that wouldve worked

i did get it to work tho

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nice

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yea

the hjson seems to not treat \ like an escaping character at all

luckily it lets you use multi line strings

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ah ok

does the backslash line work

i guess it would since its ignoring them

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yea, i just put the original line in since it doesnt do anything wacky

rather than doubling up on each backslash

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@latent sigil added tail

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...i need to recolor evils tail ribbon

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nothing a global flood fill cant solve

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indeed

can the tooltip for Donowall be "Do nowall? What's that?"

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also what kind of sprites do i need for a block

surely its not just one sprite

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gonna be honest with you

you need a lot

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have an example

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for something that doesnt merge with dirt its a bit easier

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it doesnt merge with dirt i dont think

whats the precedent for bricks

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merges with dirt

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do you have a brick template

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i can extract it

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pls

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red and grey bricks

if you want any other tiles tell me

https://terraria.fandom.com/wiki/Blocks

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i think its just donowall is the only block after seeing this

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lmao fair enough

honestly you dont even have to do it

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well i mean if you have a good block idea maybe but idk what else we could add

no i will do it

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ogey gl

what will donobrick even look like

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probably red brick but slightly oranger

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you could probably get away with just doing a recolour

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it will be based off of the donowall gifs bricks

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cut out all the dirt, shift values, put dirt back

which would be really easy

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1072697081443131476/1132757189522640946/Donohouse.gif

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actually that caption would make a good tooltip

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true

also i forgot, its not just tiles... @peak compass

wallz

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o

donowall walls

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donobrick & donowall

it only makes sense

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isnt there an item icon too i need to make

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the item icons are a subset of the tilesets

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ah ok

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wait

wall seems to be different

ill just send the thing

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ok so they are icons

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tile icon looks the same as this one

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i totally guessed the implementation on this one and i got it right first try lol

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lets go

code working first time is always a pleasant surprise

Fear not! Donowall is here.

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awesome!!

time to build the donocode

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honestly i like this more than the vanilla red bricks

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yea

its got the white mortar

it definitely gives off construction vibes

would a platform make sense?

nah

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i dont think theres any brick platforms in the game but that doesnt stop us from building the donoplank anyway

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DONOPLANK

lmao

i mean grey brick -> stone platform

red brick doesnt have anything of the sort

should it be called donoblock or donobrick

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i like donobrick more

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how do we use this texture, it has multiple platforms in it

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this looks neat, are you guys thinking of creating any weapons / items?

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there already is one, the temporal blade from abandoned archive

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I'm no c# dev, but i wanted to try making a summon or something idk

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bug free sword with no speedrunner use at all

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(e.g. swarm drones or the like)

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what are you then

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a rust dev :3

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ok ok so you can code still

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#programming message this is most of my tml experience lol

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im confused what is going on, is that a terraria ai?

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mhm

never got round to actually training it :(

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ah ok. well i can make you assets if you have something in mind, unless you know how to do spritework

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I was planning on trying to make drones, but I wouldn't want you to waste time until i have something working

so for now ill just use a placeholder

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this is an example of a modded one

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ok ok this is useful thanks

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if you can code some stuff up ill throw it in for sure

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ok well let me know if you get something working, i can make you some drones when youre ready

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❤️

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i need to go to bed but ill work on the donoplank some tommorow

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okey cya

donohouse

the bricks might need a bit more saturation or contrast

dirt merging

comparison

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gaming

finally managed to fix them randomly disappearing lol

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wao

line of summon

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now to make them actually attack

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you could probably copy the homework of another projectile

say wasp gun wasps or scourge of the corruptor

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i think i can just steal the mech eye code or w/e

given that also has a summon

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those summons have unique ai tho

retinazer shoots and spazmatism dashes

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i should just be able to steal retinazer's projectile though

(I think?)

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oops

need to find a friendly projectile lmao

ok kinda works now lessgo

obviously this shoots too fast but

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oh i see what you mean by retinazer now

awesome

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now i need to figure out why they get stuck in walls lol

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they should get stuck on walls and then be able to go thru when the player gets far enough if its copying twins summon

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ony copying their projectile

for some reason they end up bunching up against tiles

like ???

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well

if they're trying to go behind you

and thats thru a wall

wont they get stuck?

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some minions just ignore walls though

huh

actually i think you're right

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they probably need a failsafe if they cant get to the correct position

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I think its to do with their velocity? they seem to collide at low speeds but not higher ones

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o

can you send the code so i can have a look too?

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https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/0af95abb04e944b5b7ff857995ed12bd

this is the current thing

(also ignore the project name, i was gonna do something else but then saw this channel)

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ai drones

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idk how you'd go about training that

looks like i might be able to do this

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oo

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yeah that fixed it

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i guess next thing is making them not all clump up in the same place

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you could probably make them target above if they cant go to a specific spot

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more how they do this

though i think i've found a vague workaround

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ooh yea

add an offset based on which drone it is

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do you have any preference as to how they hover?

because i could probably make it a circle or something

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as in when they're targeting?

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yeah. can also do it for idling too though

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i like the single file for the idling

something like this could also be good

for attacking idk what it looks like atm so i dont have a good enough reference

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it just kinda shoots

i could make them kinda do circles above the target ig

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yea

or go back and forth along an arc

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o jeez

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I'll squash the y axis probably, so there's less so far down

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elipse

like this could give a 3d effect

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I could incorporate scale so yeah

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also when they shoot projectives it ends up syncing

another thing that could be staggered

probably by giving each a different initial shoot cooldown

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oh good point

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i got the buff and stuff working in the mod itself

i think a pet could also be derived from this lol

"activated swam drone" and "deactivated swarm drone" or smth

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this could be a random quest item from neuro lol

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i mean

summon could be sold by evil and pet could be sold by neuro

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idk neuro lore

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neuro lore 🔥

also free texture right here

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also need to figure out why they like being in the top right so much

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maybe that's the centre point?

do you need to like add half the targeted npc's width or smth

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shrug

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oh that might actually be my fault

i think i'm forgetting to set their hitboxes correctly

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your projectile texture is a random icon frame scaled to 0.2f lmao

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yeah

well, minion texture

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minions are projectiles in disguise!

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correct

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I'm so confused the centres of the drones don't line up

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can you send the most recent ai?

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https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/40ea3a7c0c78418a8fdbde0675361561

this needs some stuff in your main mod file

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eh

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i couldn't get it to track the number of minions spawned

also does scaling affect the projectile it shoots?

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huh

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i think it resets the player's total minion count every frame, and updates it as it ticks each minion

so for example the 3rd minion only thinks there are 3 minions

the thing in the main file just stores the value from like a frame ago

oh wait

I'm setting the velocity to be proportional to the distance

I've gotta head out for a bit, I'll try and fix this later

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o/

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probably just weirdness with scaling down large sprites then

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yea i have it set to 1x scale

it looks pretty good

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sick

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it would be nice to get rid of the hacky weirdness tho lol

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the thing for counting minions?

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yea

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I'll ask about it in the tml server when I get back

but imo this isn't too hacky

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hm

sounds like a good idea anyway

also problem

it should count the number of the specific summon, not total summons

ottherwise you get gaps in the circle

gaps

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okie

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also you're correct
2nd and 3rd are player.numMinions and player.slotsMinions

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found a way to do it with no main, just gotta make it count only the specific type of minion

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ah

if you share the snippet I'll try and work it in

still out and about though, so won't be able to make an actual changes for like another hour 😔

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it successfully only counts the specific type of minion