Neuro ARG - Cracking the "Numbers" Video

[pale fossil]

understood shit

im not smart enough to understand all that

[heavy tangle]

It might be SSTV, just as well

[cobalt comet]

fug

[wraith harbor]

didnt I post a spectrograph of numbers already

[sage terrace]

i don't think anythings in the spectrogram but if it helps at all the chord progression is a VI-i-vii-VI-i-v (6-1-5-6-1-7)

[cobalt comet]

what about study?

[wraith harbor]

I did that too iirc

[sage terrace]

theres technically two bars of the 6 in both instances so (6-6-1-5-6-6-1-7)

honestly i highly doubt this means anything since its one of the most common chord progressions

[wraith harbor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1112082183235047506/1112521161054625863/image.png

apparently i havent posted numbers yet

[heavy tangle]

Seems like nothing

[wraith harbor]

yeah

but you especially wont see anything in study because of the resolution lol

[scenic karma]

this is with melodic range spectrogram

[wraith harbor]

you got a 4k monitor?

[sage terrace]

the drum patterns and instrumentation likely also mean nothing bc it legit sounds like the most generic trap beat you get when you search "royalty free trap beat"

[scenic karma]

Yeah

[wraith harbor]

I only got a QHD so my screenshots arent as high res

hold on

[sage terrace]

i feel like if there was something itd sound weird

but it just sounds normal

idk thats my 3 brain cells speaking

[kindred parrot]

holy

[wraith harbor]

numbers with more horizontal resolution

[kindred parrot]

i love this

[wraith harbor]

study with more horizontal resolution

[sage terrace]

those large dots are just the bassline(chord progression) i just mentioned, so its not like morse or something

[kindred parrot]

right but it can be a code

[sage terrace]

.

[cobalt comet]

have we tried reversing the audio on both tracks?

[heavy tangle]

idk

[kindred parrot]

i beleive so

[scenic karma]

Anyway i am off to work, good luck with arg

[wraith harbor]

👍

[pale fossil]

gl guys ill go mimir

[graceful mulch]

@pale fossil has leveled up! (3 ➜ 4)

[cobalt comet]

how does one get embed perms?

[wraith harbor]

check FAQ

[kindred parrot]

what has happened since yesterdya

[cobalt comet]

someone pointed out something between 31:10 and 31:11 in the study video

its another hash

[wraith harbor]

its been solved

[cobalt comet]

damn

[wraith harbor]

the road forward is blocked by numbers

not study

[kindred parrot]

did that program get made? if so i will run

[wraith harbor]

can you be more specific

[kindred parrot]

the one to try to brute force an AES that is 17xxxxxxxxxxxx24

[wraith harbor]

someone ran it on a threadripper

no hits

[kindred parrot]

bruh

wait

hm

nevermind

[wraith harbor]

new pfp

[cobalt comet]

Scuffed

Neuro V3

That's where the ARG will land us

[pulsar maple]

neuro V1.666 (get it it's like scary number or smth)

the abandoned old model

[cobalt comet]

What if it's like the fnaf books where each age range has its own "body"

[wraith harbor]

oh I posted this in the wrong thread lol

meant to post it in #1112082183235047506 because they were talking about it

lmao

[rose sparrow]

It is possible we got a hit but just don't know it since it only checked for UTF-8

[wraith harbor]

true

[kindred parrot]

this got decoded i think

[wraith harbor]

the pfp was new like a minute before I sent it

[kindred parrot]

this thread is now the place where we talk about the ARG without vedal seeing us.

[violet drift]

admins can tell vedl

[heady jetty]

how far has this gone

did we solve smth

[shrewd trench]

Would it be any useful to note that the animation used in the Numbers vid is hiyori_m10.motion3.json?

[night galleon]

you know

is funny that

It goes off after Vedal

I guess

[wraith harbor]

?

wym

[sacred ruin]

wanna brute force a couple quadrillion keys?

just a few hours

[shrewd trench]

[heavy tangle]

jajajajaja

[tiny garden]

I need to figure out why my code is still allocating in the heap 😔

[wraith harbor]

where the code

I dont know much rust but maybe I'll see something?

[tiny garden]

uh, one minute

[sacred ruin]

its not

i have my theory

the hash is base64, but we're not meant to decode it entirely

theres something about "17" is first

which could mean we have to cut it 17 times

[heavy tangle]

Hash editing tips in the text

It's obvious

[sacred ruin]

and if you notice almost every number from 1-10 is mentioned in the song

so if we follow the song and order them somehow

or somehow substitute something in them

we can decode it

[heavy tangle]

Perhaps

Oh, nevermind

[sacred ruin]

1388 is not divisible by 17

meaning theres some things we have to do to the hash if this theory is true

[tiny garden]

https://github.com/owobred/neuro-brute/blob/png/src/main.rs#L195

i've already spotted one issue with this but that's easy to fix

[heavy tangle]

The ARG is designed for us to find the key under the mat, but we try to poke the keyhole with a fork until the door opens

[wraith harbor]

because theres 236 different mats depending on how you read the instructions

[heavy tangle]

The ARG is designed for us to find the key under the mat, but we try to poke the keyhole with a fork until the door opens

[tiny garden]

alright time to change crypto library in hopes of speed

[heavy tangle]

Agreed

[wraith harbor]

and theres also 19 different keyholes

if we found the mat that we know is the right one, then its 1/19 chances

instead of 1/4,484 chances

except we're impatient/lazy so we doing 1/(19*1,000,000,000,000)

[heavy tangle]

that guy...

[full zealot]

it's the irrationally that comes with being stuck.

[heavy tangle]

We have already figured out that the 2 to start with is on the 129 character

is the 129 symbol*

[full zealot]

looking at the "numbers" video, i have no clue how one would flip the numbers

but maybe im looking at the wrong place

[astral panther]

2 is the 130th, after 129 other characters

[heavy tangle]

Yes, I was wrong. 130th

[eager garden]

So what else do we have analyzed

I'm checking the relationship between the first 2 and other numbers

[night galleon]

try to get all of the numbers

[wraith harbor]

I don't even see what the reason is to go to point X then point Y and point Z

I think its dumb

why does it matter where the 2 is?

[heavy tangle]

Because the hash is not correct and if we edit it according to the hints in song, it can be decrypted

[eager garden]

Just a little hint, base64 should be divisible by 4, maybe we should keep this in mind when editing.

[tiny garden]

hopes of speed have made it 2.5x slower

[wraith harbor]

rip

[heavy tangle]

Is this code even theoretically capable of doing anything?

[tiny garden]

i don't even know what i'm looking for

people are lost so i thought brute forcing might be a mildly viable option

suprise suprise the silly turtle person made this difficult

[heavy tangle]

You're right there

[tiny garden]

over 500m / second if i plug in my laptop it would seem

[wraith harbor]

not bad

[tiny garden]

damn, capped at 350m / sec for some reason

[night galleon]

2m/1 billion

[heavy tangle]

I can help you

[tiny garden]

in what way

were you offering a server i don't remember

[heavy tangle]

Give me the script and tell me how to run it

[sacred ruin]

yes

[heavy tangle]

Just for fun

[tiny garden]

install the rust toolchain, git clone https://github.com/owobred/neuro-brute/tree/png (make sure you're on the png branch), set RUSTFLAGS = "-C target-cpu=native" as a env var, then cargo run --release in the root of the folder

[tiny garden]

rust toolchain is from https://www.rust-lang.org/learn/get-started

[heavy tangle]

Already installed

[tiny garden]

oh you will want to edit the number of threads it uses because I'm still lazy and don't work it out dynamically

[heavy tangle]

I see

[tiny garden]

line 20 of src/main.rs, change the number to the amount of threads you can use effectively

[near perch]

im trying to learn how to use rust it looks like a nice language

[heavy tangle]

It isnt

[tiny garden]

it is

[heavy tangle]

DM

[tiny garden]

they might be closed here

[near perch]

i want to see the reasoning as well

[sacred ruin]

@tiny garden can you cut the hash in 3 parts

and run it thru base 64 decoder separately

like

its base64

the hash is just changed and the steps to make it normal are in the video

it kinda makes sense

[tiny garden]

which hash

[sacred ruin]

are you serious

im not even gonna tell you

you should know

the one you've been bruteforcing this entire time

thats the first one discovered

its base64

[tiny garden]

base64 isn't a hash lol

[sacred ruin]

what do you call it then

a string?

[tiny garden]

an encoding is the usual name

[sacred ruin]

that then

[tiny garden]

I guess that could be something

idk I won't really be able to do much for a while, gonna be up on the hills in like half an hour

[sacred ruin]

alr

[neon cedar]

Hm

[heavy tangle]

Hm

[calm zealot]

I made something that can generate numbers from the lyrics but I can't figure out how to use this crypto library

could someone that has a working decryption thing try these numbers as the key please?

[176, 17624, 17600675, 17606750, 17933675, 171237182, 175460675, 1724600669, 1724606744, 1724933669, 1746571820, 1753256750, 1758657182, 1759325675, 1760066924, 1760674424, 1760972153, 1769721530, 1793366924, 1793372153, 17102372153, 17123717624, 17123721872, 17241237176, 17245460669, 17546066924, 17546972153, 17600721485, 17607214850, 17933721485, 171237215282, 171405572153, 172446571814, 172453256744, 172458657176, 172459325669, 172460972147, 172469721524, 172493372147, 174533721530, 174657181424, 174837218720, 175325674424, 175343721530, 175460721485, 175557218720, 175853372153, 175865717624, 175883721872, 175932566924, 175934372153, 175955721872, 176097214724, 176972152424, 179337214724, 1710237214724, 1712372186624, 1724102372147, 1724123721866, 1724546972147, 1724600721479, 1724607214844, 1724933721479, 1746572152820, 1749155721530, 1753257214850, 1754555721872, 1754697214724, 1758657215282, 1758915572153, 1759325721485, 1760072147924, 1760721484424, 1793372147924, 17123721527624, 17140557214724, 17241237215276, 17241405572147, 17244533721524, 17244837218714, 17245343721524, 17245460721479, 17245557218714, 17245853372147, 17245883721866, 17245934372147, 17245955721866, 17453372152424, 17483721871424, 17534372152424, 17546072147924, 17555721871424, 17585337214724, 17588372186624, 17593437214724, 17595572186624, 172446572152814, 172449155721524, 172453257214844, 172454555721866, 172458657215276, 172458915572147, 172459325721479, 174657215281424, 174915572152424, 175325721484424, 175455572186624, 175865721527624, 175891557214724, 175932572147924]

[heavy tangle]

ranges: [0..62500000000, 62500000000..125000000000, 125000000000..187500000000, 187500000000..250000000000, 250000000000..312500000000, 312500000000..375000000000, 375000000000..437500000000, 437500000000..500000000000, 500000000000..562500000000, 562500000000..625000000000, 625000000000..687500000000, 687500000000..750000000000, 750000000000..812500000000, 812500000000..875000000000, 875000000000..937500000000, 937500000000..1000000000000]

We took the easy way\

[calm zealot]

not sure what that is but I'm gonna guess it didn't succeed

oh

you're brute forcing the ciphertext and assigning those ranges to different ppl?

[limpid swift]

Ill try them over lunch in a couple hours

Against devglan

[heavy tangle]

We're checking if result are UTF-8, if text UTF-8 then saving result

[minor fiber]

yo we brute forcing again ? nice

[heavy tangle]

For files we are checking first few bytes if its match example

[minor fiber]

theory is we might get an url to something like a new clue video

[heavy tangle]

On more powerful CPUs

[heavy tangle]

I think so, too

[minor fiber]

or we might get a phone number

[heavy tangle]

I live in mother Russia, the call will be expensive

[minor fiber]

it would be for this

so if the numbers video give use a number we can try sending a messageto a phone and recieve another clue maybe ?

[prisma reef]

OK WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK IS HAPPENING HERE

[heavy tangle]

I'm not very good at rust. And guy who wrote the code ran out of mobile internet

So we're waiting for him to do it

[pulsar maple]

hi quax people are doing silly stuff here

[heavy tangle]

What the actual fuck is this

[prisma reef]

people got to far on this

[minor fiber]

clue from the other video, it's code to send message to a phone

[heavy tangle]

0 progress

[calm zealot]

ah ok

[pulsar maple]

here is what everyone is doing
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1qm6GSRlstTmjbyOFCuH1OhSmPK4pi4Aa?usp=sharing

[calm zealot]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1n3nEfer7vQcE4yIQAQyoBiWsi3r7f5mfgwmEUNXZ3AI/edit seems like a dead-end for now

[heavy tangle]

2023-05-30T08:49:55.441753Z INFO neuro_brute: 169,990,000,000/1,000,000,000,000 (16.999%) current rate 45,300,000 keys/second

Code isnt optimized, speed is too low

[prisma reef]

NAH BRO HOWD YALL KNOW ALL OF THIS

[minor fiber]

https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1112988479140417567

go ask them lol

[prisma reef]

ICANT

[minor fiber]

x)

[heavy tangle]

Static-sama is trolling and I'm tired of telling people that

[minor fiber]

yea

people are bored

[heavy tangle]

Absolutely every "clue" is some bullshit

Which sends the static-sama

[minor fiber]

every clue yes but from official sources

[rose sparrow]

@tiny garden tried your PNG branch, I get 450m/sec and then it crashes due to stack overflow

[rose sparrow]

I'm thinking that once we can decrypt the Numbers description we can use the same key to decrypt the phone number there as well

[heavy tangle]

https://github.com/owobred/neuro-brute/blob/b1960cc26d86737da529da922f7d4a953c538b3a/src/main.rs#LL131C38-L131C38

Delete this if

BTW, we have already processed the png

[rose sparrow]

no hits?

[heavy tangle]

No

Now running a branch to search for UTF-8

main one

[ebon marten]

where tokio

[rose sparrow]

I ran that one without any hits

[ebon marten]

smh

[heavy tangle]

Poor optimization makes it slow

[heavy tangle]

I provided the server for the bruteforce

[graceful mulch]

@heavy tangle has leveled up! (3 ➜ 4)

[rose sparrow]

I'm also doing the same, since my server is sitting idle rn, we should probably run different attempts though 😉

[heavy tangle]

Agreed

[rose sparrow]

Still getting a stack overflow

also it consumes all 16GB that I gave the VM

[heavy tangle]

WHAT

[rose sparrow]

I can give it more, but is it supposed to consume that much?

[heavy tangle]

I ran directly in PVE, so as not to virtualize. Didn't see how much it consumes, so I don't know

[rose sparrow]

might be because I'm using cargo +nightly, doesn't seem to build on stable

#![feature] may not be used on the stable release channel

[heavy tangle]

It should be nightly

2023-05-30T09:48:35.484114Z INFO neuro_brute: 329,112,250,000/1,000,000,000,000 (32.911%) current rate 45,375,000 keys/second

It sooooo boring

[rose sparrow]

which commit are you on?

[heavy tangle]

Looked at the consumption graph

It doesn't have to be that way. It consumed very little for me. I can't be exact, but in general 0.5-4gb

The error is large because of the VM

[rose sparrow]

what consumption graph?

[heavy tangle]

On PVE manager

[rose sparrow]

I'm just using Hyper-V, this is a windows machine

[storm kraken]

I don't think it's something too complicated. The clue probably something on the surface, but we can't see it because focusing on something else.

The second song related to the first song, and it seems like the second song is a hint for the first song. People managed to solve quite a lot on the second song compared to the first one.

[rose sparrow]

@heavy tangle Fixed it by reducing the number of threads from 64 to 32, getting a rate of 310m keys/s now

Could be more if I can use more threads

actually it wasn't the number of threads, it was the target-cpu=native that was causing it

getting 480m keys/s now

[minor fiber]

480m/s should be like 30 min ?

[rose sparrow]

yeah, but this one was already run without any hits

[sacred ruin]

silly boys

its not bruteforce

[rose sparrow]

I'm just running it for fun, I don't expect results

[sacred ruin]

whatever ill find out the result the intended way

was hoping someome was smart enough

its an unlisted video

[minor fiber]

brute force unlisted videos ?

[graceful mulch]

@minor fiber has leveled up! (6 ➜ 7)

[heavy tangle]

Stop

You need to change something in code

Since it's not a png, you need to look for the presence of a jpg

[rose sparrow]

that's going to be somewhat difficult, a jpg doesn't have a well-defined magic header

[heavy tangle]

https://github.com/owobred/neuro-brute/blob/b1960cc26d86737da529da922f7d4a953c538b3a/src/main.rs#L219

change the header check to match the first 3 bytes of the jpeg header https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/JPEG_File_Interchange_Format

[rose sparrow]

not all jpegs have a JFIF header

[heavy tangle]

SOS FF DA
EOI FF D9

In octo

[rose sparrow]

*hex

[heavy tangle]

Yup

I just haven't slept in 24 hours

25*

[sacred ruin]

random info dump

16, '1', 26, 'Q', 17, 'W', 11, 'o', 19, 'q', 21, 'Z', 21, 't', 18, 'C', 27, 'd', 21, 'r', 25, 'w', 18, 'b', 19, 'i', 21, '/', 21, 'D', 22, 'l', 16, 'k', 11, 'K', 23, '4', 20, 'I', 19, 'f', 16, '=', 1]```

[rose sparrow]

I'll use just the SOS, I'll prob get false positives, but w/e

[sacred ruin]

how many times the letters appear

[rose sparrow]

btw, something else that's worth a shot is converting the numbers to letters before using it as a key given the "numbers matching the letters" lyric

[heavy tangle]

40% of UTF8 processing. No hits

in 0-1000000000000 range

[hidden crater]

i got video about schizofrenia as recommended on the numbers vireo

[heavy tangle]

True

[radiant walrus]

that means we are getting closer

i think

[pulsar maple]

[sacred ruin]

string = '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'

startingPoint = 0
while startingPoint != len(string):
    b64string = ''
    for i in range(startingPoint, len(string)):
        b64string = b64string + string[i]
        encoded = b64string.encode()
        try:
            decoded = base64.b64decode(encoded)
            if '\\' not in str(decoded):
                print(decoded)
        except: pass
    startingPoint += 1

not cut in any way

[ornate minnow]

How are my favorite schizo people doing

[tiny garden]

agony

I'll try and rewrite that section so it doesn't try and use some stupid amount of ram when I get back

[rose sparrow]

fixed it, target-cpu=native caused it

[tiny garden]

weird

currently can't program

[rose sparrow]

how do you have interwebs?!

[tiny garden]

magic of mobile data

I don't get any signal down in the valleys though

[rose sparrow]

anyway, no hits searching for jpegs either

[tiny garden]

probably not worth throwing any more compute at it for now

anyways imma get walking again

[heavy tangle]

Oh

bred

Welcome back

[tiny garden]

I won't be here for very long lol

still got like 3 or 4 more hours of walking

[ornate minnow]

Do you guys think this whole arg is just for people to get used to the new Neuro voice

[minor fiber]

nah it's probably to prepare people for the subathon

[heavy tangle]

Undetected, unexpected
Wings of glory, tell their story

[lavish totem]

i dont think the voice in the video is neuro

[radiant walrus]

thats sabaton not subathon

[ornate minnow]

It's Neuro, too similar to be not neuro

[heavy tangle]

x)

[heavy tangle]

To natural, to be neuro TTS

[ornate minnow]

Well her tts need an upgrade tbh, it's too robotic compared to her vtuber model

[thorny robin]

We don't know yet and the voice can be easily edited, so it's too early to say for sure that it's Neoru. Although I admit I can hear her somewhere in the distance in that voice too

[pulsar maple]

he's working on it

V2 voice coming soon™️

[thorny robin]

I imagine if new voice is the first thing to do, perform one of these songs, but that doesn't fit in the video a bit then no?

[heavy tangle]

/ cannot be generated in base64, so we need to process each string separately.

[graceful mulch]

You have unlocked new role

[copper harness]

You have unlocked new role

[heavy tangle]

Use this as a clue and process the hash

[pulsar maple]

CLUE

[heavy tangle]

OMG, ITS STATIC SAMA?????

[pulsar maple]

(also you can post images now)

[heavy tangle]

Finally

[sacred ruin]

?

[heavy tangle]

Nevermind

I said the wrong thing

Anyway

Regardless of the resolution, each line begins with /

I think it's something

[hasty vale]

it is not. youtube automatically makes breaks on symbols like that

[heavy tangle]

Shit

[hasty vale]

you can put the thing in notepad and stretch it around to get different line breaks, woo, truly a clue

[minor fiber]

when i paste in notepad it format like that

[heavy tangle]

That's too bad. I didn't know about this feature

[crystal sorrel]

its pretty funny tbh, i had abit of fun following along

[heavy tangle]

Sure it's fun, but there's no progress

[minor fiber]

must be a clue

[crystal sorrel]

well i am personally not very good with numbers and stuff in here

[heavy tangle]

What is the clue?

[minor fiber]

nah nothing

[keen tartan]

we discover a good lead last night which is the 130th character in the hash is a 2, matching the two lyrics about counting days and start with number 2
anybody followed down that lead?

it's possible that we have to alter something in the hash itself before decoding it

this is also a possibility that we ignored because we rushed to decode it first

[prisma cloak]

can someone send me a link of a site that can be used to decode base64? I need to test some keys

[minor fiber]

oh wait me counting the days was actually useful lol what about the 1432 days ?

[minor fiber]

use https://gchq.github.io/CyberChef

[clever lintel]

https://gchq.github.io/CyberChef/ and https://dencode.com/en/

[keen tartan]

unfortunately there are only 1388 characters in the hash

[prisma cloak]

thanks

[scenic karma]

Did somebody follow my trail that 17 and 24 are maybe 1597 and 13 because of fibonacci ?

[sacred ruin]

unlikely

[crystal sorrel]

Is the Line "Add the numbers 2 4" mean 6 or 24

[minor fiber]

no idea

[sacred ruin]

idk

[prisma cloak]

Finding all these numbers
Start with number 2 yeah
Matching all the letters
572943

Match all the letters with 2572943:
a=2
b=5
c=7
d=2
e=9
f=4
g=3

Add another 9 yeah (watch as the same numbers between 2-9 is retained which can be matched at the end of the last line of the lyrics):
2572943+9=2572952

maybe the final key will be straight up only letters which will be matched based on the final manipulation of letters

[scenic karma]

So the fibonacci is a false trail in that specific time frame from "Add another 6 yeah" to the last "ABCDEFG" ?
I thought because it was shown there that we needed to run the numbers through fibonacci

[sacred ruin]

in any case we need to think how can the lyrics help us switch stuff in the encoded string

cuz i think thats what it is

the base64 string is switched

and the lyrics helps us fix it

[minor fiber]

might also be start with the 2 so 572 +9 = 581 -> 581943

[sacred ruin]

give me ideas on how to do this, any

basically any ideas

@stoic yacht @spring widget wanna base yourselves around that idea and help?

The Base64 string is modified, and the lyrics tells us what to substitute in order to decode it.

[stoic yacht]

Darkeew I am absolutely clueless on anything that has been happening in this thread

[prisma cloak]

yeah but that wouldnt make any sense, since if the purpose of:
Finding all these numbers
Start with number 2 yeah
Matching all the letters
572943

is to establish a value for the letters of ABCDEFG, and since 1 is not included, then that means any solution with 1 or any number that doesnt exist on the established value of the letters is wrong

[keen tartan]

@sacred ruin this is one of them good lead to start with

[stoic yacht]

I have no idea what "base64" means, I am actually useless here

[sacred ruin]

we're beginning a new investigation

[sacred ruin]

the description is a clue

but that clue was modified

[minor fiber]

could also be 5729439 - > abcdefg

[sacred ruin]

and the lyrics tells us how to fix it

[ebon marten]

[heavy tangle]

Don't forget that this could be the key

[sacred ruin]

basically think of it as a normal phrase

[ebon marten]

no it can't be

[sacred ruin]

and use the lyrics to fix the phrase

[sacred ruin]

what else can it be?

its the best idea we got now

[ebon marten]

nah

[sacred ruin]

anyone has other ideas?

[stoic yacht]

okay darkeww I'm not that clueless, but like as soon as people start talking about bytes you lose me

[ebon marten]

i'm not talking about your idea

[sacred ruin]

forget the bytes

[heavy tangle]

Why not

[sacred ruin]

ill treat you like a child dw

[stoic yacht]

ah- ok

[sacred ruin]

ill explain everything

ur smart

need you

my smart child

[ebon marten]

im saying that this is not possible

[sacred ruin]

smartest one here

[prisma cloak]

According to ASCII (American Standard Code for Information Interchange), the numerical value of a new line is 10

[sacred ruin]

help us solve

[crystal sorrel]

have we attachted values to abcdefg or are the letters mea nothing

[minor fiber]

yes

[sacred ruin]

im gonna have lunch

[stoic yacht]

Well I can't help right now because We're making Neuro play with the demon core on the event canvas

[minor fiber]

yummy radiation

[limpid swift]

This is beautiful

[keen tartan]

don't get sidetrack now

start with the 130th (the 2) character in the hash

it matches with the lyrics

[sacred ruin]

start with uhhhh

start

just start

do anything

too many people are getting trolled with static

so we have basically no one solving the actual arg

[minor fiber]

[stoic yacht]

25+ people on the static sama doc

[sacred ruin]

and making no actual progress

[heavy tangle]

Bruteforcehttps://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1072901352902103100.webp?size=48&quality=lossless&size=40

[minor fiber]

the guy behing that discord alt really feeling good with all that attention

[sacred ruin]

you see

the brute force

we dont mention them

they are doing good

[limpid swift]

If you encrypt text in this site, it gives you an output that looks mostly like base64 but has slashes in it https://www.devglan.com/online-tools/text-encryption-decryption

So that's a likely candidate imo

[minor fiber]

at least it made us think to us something else than AES

[heavy tangle]

Wow, SAL caution

[limpid swift]

SAL?

[heavy tangle]

Security bot is checking every link

[limpid swift]

oshit a couple of those numbers from before reported a success let me try it

[muted goblet]

Any bruteforce attempt should score the putative plaintexts by entropy instead of magic bytes to avoid false negatives+positives and be payload agnostic

[limpid swift]

nah neither worked I guess my script has a bug

[stoic yacht]

holy shit I do not understand half the words in this sentence, i kneel

[heavy tangle]

Script is checking for valid UTF text

[minor fiber]

basically instead of checking if the text don't have corrupted character (which is what we were doing) they are saying to check how random the text is

[rose sparrow]

Basically instead of trying to see if it decodes into text or an image we should instead look at how "random" the bits are

[clever lintel]

Is there an ELI5? :p

[muted goblet]

Aye but that'll be wasted computation if the payload turns out to be something other than printable plaintext

[rose sparrow]

Anyway before a brute force attempt is actually going to be successful we need better clues about what the key should look like

Because the current code makes a lot of assumptions about the key

[eager garden]

In fact it doesn't matter if there is a troll or not, we have no idea about it

[crystal sorrel]

do we know what cipher is used

[eager garden]

[tiny garden]

at some point I should make it keep track of its best finds

[minor fiber]

might not even be any keys if it's just Base64 but scrambled

[muted goblet]

Any AES decrypts with an incorrect key should give a "plaintext" indistinguishable from random noise meaning it'll have a high entropy. If you get a valid key during the brutefroce it'll give the actual payload. Unless the actual payload is encrypted further (With modern crypto) it'll have a lower entropy. It's a more robust method of checking if your key gave you the proper plaintext or not instead of checking for the prescence of magic bytes e.g. ff d8 for JPGs, or percentage of printable characters

[ebon marten]

^ but if you're being a nice arg creator it shouldn't be encrypted 2 times because then you're just being weird

[tiny garden]

I could probably use something like https://docs.rs/entropy/latest/entropy/

[minor fiber]

but if you check only a small part of the decrypted wouldn't it change the entropy ?

[clever lintel]

it is entirely possible that the base64 snippet in the SMS-program is a phonenumber, given it's placement in the code. But what format of phonenumber i do not know

[rose sparrow]

we do not, the only reason we're assuming 128-bit AES is because the base64 decodes into a multiple of 16-bytes

[rose sparrow]

the data seems too long to be just a phone number

[minor fiber]

i think he is speaking of DQ5zl4ighWwiag7y+cWFQg==

[clever lintel]

ye, i just realized it wasn't the numbers video that appears. I'm a confused person :p

[rose sparrow]

yeah I was talking about that one too

[minor fiber]

you think it's too long ? i would have guessed it's too short

[crystal sorrel]

well i tried giving numbers some thought, but i really don't know what im doing with hashes/decoding/AES and stuff so i think ill step away from solving for now

[limpid swift]

Not sure about that one buddy looks pretty encrypted still to me

[rose sparrow]

You can ignore all that, leave that to us. We just need someone to solve the riddle in the lyrics and what the golden ration/Fibonacci sequence has to do with it

[minor fiber]

might not be AES, the lyrics might tell us to change some letters and numbers so the Base64 give the decoded text

[rose sparrow]

Unlikely, if that were the case we would already be seeing some words in the decoded base64

[minor fiber]

golden ratio might be red herring or the next part of the puzzle

[clever lintel]

Anything might be a red herring, but let's not shoot down thought on searching

[sacred ruin]

okay so

uh

who was talking to me

about the 130 character

[rose sparrow]

Any character changed in the base64 will only change the data locally, so the decoded base64 won't dramatically change unless you chance nearly every single character

[keen tartan]

me

[sacred ruin]

thats true

[eager garden]

so what are we deciphering

[rose sparrow]

the lyrics

[eager garden]

ok

[rose sparrow]

which we think would give us a key to decrypt the description

[sacred ruin]

this

does kinda make sense

but

theres another thing

we can divide the entire coded think

thing

because it may be uh

wait no i ran a program earlier

[heavy tangle]

It may be anything

[rose sparrow]

also we're assuming the data in the base64 is encrypted because it has a high degree of randomness, there doesn't seem to be any pattern in it

If the instructions were to decode the data into something readable, it would probably already have some patterns in it

[radiant perch]

Random thought:
Can the "Add the numbers 2 4" be interpreted as "Add the numbers to 4"?
Which could mean.. "Sum all the digits in the number and add 4 to it".

[open estuary]

hm

[heavy tangle]

Not bad

[rose sparrow]

that does make more sense than add the numbers 2, 4

[open estuary]

in this case, there are even more possible numbers

and it gets worse

[keen tartan]

[heavy tangle]

This is just fucked up.

[eager garden]

Did you just know?

[crystal sorrel]

i interpreted that like in 2 ways

2+4 and 24 but that makes alot of sense

[minor fiber]

also we might need to transform the key into 16 letters (i know i know eww letters not numbers)

[radiant perch]

I thought about the 2+4 and 24 and both for me didn't make any sense.. I mean.. the rest of the lyrics is very understandable.. this line is not when interpreted as "Add the numbers 2 4".

[minor fiber]

i think someone said 17 first might be Q or something

[rose sparrow]

Well there is one thing I learned from this ARG so far: English grammar is completely unfit for mathematical instructions

[minor fiber]

and starting with 2 might refer to start the abc from 2 so A =2 etc.

[eager garden]

It seems to go back to the previous discussion.

[keen tartan]

we never left step 1 in the first place

[minor fiber]

oh yea

i really think everyone that went to the other video skipped step 1 x)

[rose sparrow]

helpful list for the Fibonacci sequence: https://planetmath.org/listoffibonaccinumbers

[limpid swift]

The devglan website returns a still-encrypted string if you send it a password with a \n directly to the URL, on the website it escapes it into \\n.... What could this mean about their setup

[crystal sorrel]

i made a comment last night wondering why everyone was focusing on static sama when we havent even solved numbers yet

[minor fiber]

people are just bored

they forget it's only be 2-3 days since the start and already expect hints so when they see a random account giving cringey stuff they think it's vedal giving hints

[keen tartan]

once again, we are in no position to deny any possible leads
If people dig into it and do find out its a troll, good, that's one possibility down
If people dont dig into it, the possibility its being a lead forever hangs above our heads

[heavy tangle]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1M58WtMXSuNH29fRRH3kncbRKtm6rSYldEyknG-PBoNo/

Best one doc

[pale fossil]

dont we even had a like tree of possible outcomes of following the lyrics?

[keen tartan]

yes

[floral dune]

hello, anyone tried to decode text on description?
I encoded to hash and decoded by JIS keyboard. After I translated it into English
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jSgL48mmr0sZtgxRrTApUBDmN7sHFn2v3nODcVTTq2c/edit?usp=sharing
sorry for my English, i'm not good for it

[pale fossil]

so im pretty sure we did this

[open estuary]

perhaps, but nevertheless, it would be a good idea to review the text a few more times

[rose sparrow]

given that this is vedal "multiply by 5" could be interpreted as copy-pasting the current sequence 5 times

[graceful mulch]

@rose sparrow has leveled up! (4 ➜ 5)

[keen tartan]

Literally the first two thousand message in the study thread was all trying to find the numbers by following the instruction of the lyrics

[minor fiber]

did chatgpt or bard dit that i don't remenber

[pale fossil]

i dont think so

[minor fiber]

when we tested with all the AIs one of the AI just copy paste each multiplication

[pale fossil]

i dont remember then

[keen tartan]

nope, we havent try this one yet, we tried multiply by 5 could be X5 or literally multiply by 5

[pale fossil]

ops wrong link

[radiant perch]

Noita eyes messages are still not solved and after years of trying devs gave only one clue "eye messages indeed contain a message".
ARG isn't something that evolves/changes quickly (if at all). I'm sure there won't be any clues from Vedal for a long time, static-sama and stuff like this is not related to original ARG.

[pale fossil]

this is cool but i dont know what to do with it to be honest

[open estuary]

Interestingly, there have already been attempts to unravel this description, which also ended up with a bunch of Japanese symbols

[sacred ruin]

This is trash data

[shrewd trench]

Translation messages don't feel quite right

[eager garden]

that should be just gibberish

[pulsar maple]

Noita eyes

[thorny robin]

I've seen similar things in the comments under the video, more like making sense where none exists, but who knows

[heavy tangle]

Is that even possible? Make base64 so that all the hashes attached to it make sense?

[floral dune]

it fits the theme, i'll just tried

[eager garden]

idk much about jp
ask shiro maybe

It looks like gibberish to me

[floral dune]

not all

[heavy tangle]

I think if you fart in a Japanese voice translator, you get "I like to eat sushi"

[minor fiber]

#1112082183235047506 message

i found the bing solution

[pale fossil]

?

[uncut hare]

[minor fiber]

with this solution the flip the numbers backwards only flip 9 and 6 since they are the only numbers XD

[pale fossil]

dont we have a 5 to ? so it would make a 2

[heavy tangle]

Not brainfuck again

[hidden crater]

has anyone looked into fibonacci matrix encryption? i read a paper but i don't understand math too well

[rose sparrow]

never heard of that, interesting

[heavy tangle]

Backwards and upside down not the same thing

[minor fiber]

true

[floral dune]

I just tried. I found a video about the neuro arg and thought I could be of some help. I tried to join by studying the rest of the threads. If I disturbed you, i'm sorry. I will not distract you from important discussions

[heavy tangle]

I was just kidding. Everyone here can't understand anything, so any clue is a clue.

[open estuary]

these discussions aren't much more important than yours, we're all trying to figure something out

[muted goblet]

I saw your script for querying Devglan, but you can actually infer enough to bruteforce it locally. Devglan uses AES-128 CBC with the IV "565659iu8ghbv567", PKCS7 padding on the plaintext, and a KDF that pads the password to length 16 with 0x74 if < 16 and just drops any bytes if it's > 16

[keen tartan]

don't worry, hes just losing his sanity after spending too much time here

[heavy tangle]

Agreed

[limpid swift]

Oh good, how did you find the IV?

in-fact, how did you find any of this stuff? very useful anyway this should make it easier

[open estuary]

Besides, I found a message from someone who tried to decipher the description 19 hours ago, and he got a bunch of other Japanese characters, but the content was about the same

[eager garden]

He used the JIS format, which is even more strange if it's not Japanese.

[open estuary]

Yes, but the content of the last sentences is very similar, I found it interesting

[heavy tangle]

Static-sama said something about JIS

[open estuary]

although it doesn't do anything in general.

[heavy tangle]

But its just trolling

[keen tartan]

I wish that we know static neuro is just trolling

unfortunately we dont

[storm kraken]

What if static already solved the arg, and just gives us clues. It's 90 percent troll, but still 10 percent legit.

[pale fossil]

1 person solved all ?

its more likely be vedal than this i believe

[shrewd trench]

Surely the ARG isn't that hard

[storm kraken]

Who said it 1 person? It could be a team or a really talanted person.

[eager garden]

If someone was smart enough to complete the whole puzzle in two days, I don't think he would be interested in teasing us.

sure just my guess

[rose sparrow]

what's vedal's github again?

[sacred ruin]

QABCDEF

[eager garden]

wdym that

[sacred ruin]

someone posted that earlier

[foggy brook]

^^^

[pale fossil]

https://github.com/Vedal987

here

[shrewd trench]

Find all the numbers

[storm kraken]

You will be surprised how fun it is watching when this clueless people trying to solve something you solved in a day or two.

[muted goblet]

You can use known plaintext and ECB mode with the same password to get the plaintext prior to the CBC XOR step, then XOR that with the known plaintext. You know it's CBC because same 16 byte plaintext blocks result in different ciphertext. You can get the padding from using a 16 byte password to skip over any simple KDF and looking at what decrypting a non 16 byte aligned plaintext gives you. For the KDF it was kind of lucky since it was so simple, just trying common KDFs with a 15 byte password and tried bruteforcing the last byte. Pretty strange they pad it with 0x74

[eager garden]

Please don't tell me you actually solved the puzzle.

[foggy brook]

no

[sacred ruin]

interesting

so whats the IV and password

[floral dune]

I have seen a lot of ciphers using the JIS keyboard in thread about static-sama. I tried combine this. We don't know for sure static-sama's a troll

[sacred ruin]

they are

[muted goblet]

This is specifically for the devglan site, not our ciphertext. But its IV was 565659iu8ghbv567, you can't recover the default password but the KDF info for custom ones is in what I posted

[obtuse whale]

...

[misty scaffold]

Code answer here?

[harsh folio]

[minor fiber]

just to be sure it's not me being schizo but numbers sound like after dark no ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFaL0HNhtiY

[harsh folio]

not here anymore

[crystal sorrel]

this is static sama

[misty scaffold]

OH

Okay

[sacred ruin]

we dont care in this thread

[hasty vale]

gigachad misinformation spreader. probably even has an alt here to lurk

[sacred ruin]

take it somewhere else

vedal is asleep

[keen tartan]

True
go upstair

[crystal sorrel]

nah i was just pointing out it appeared here

its a troll

[keen tartan]

its the same person behind static sama for sure

[eager garden]

He's ready to throw an answer and laugh at us

[muted goblet]

Also just to tack on https://aesencryption.net/ appears a lot in ARGs as well so I'll post its settings just in case. AES CBC with an IV of 12345678b0z2345n, PKCS7 padding on the plaintext, KDF of padding to the byte length with 0x00 or dropping any bytes if it's longer

[sacred ruin]

wtf i just reheard the song at 0.25 and she says "add the numbers to 4's"

anyone wanna confirm this?

[pale fossil]

link the vid pls

[minor fiber]

when i did that i heard add the number 2 for 17 is first yeah

[sacred ruin]

numbers _neurosama

[stoic yacht]

the next lyric is "seventeen". you could be mishearing the next line as part of the previous

[pale fossil]

i hear too

well its like a to but streched

like a tooo

[minor fiber]

also since the lyrics contains all numbers and ABCDEFG it might mean that we need to add and multiply in HEX instead of decimal

[rose sparrow]

G is not HEX

[minor fiber]

true

[pale fossil]

but yeah i agree with u

[thorny robin]

nah bro
Be more interesting

[rose sparrow]

Someone did mention before that ABCDEFG are all musical notes

[minor fiber]

musical theory doc yes

[burnt coral]

In the docs already

[crystal sorrel]

i hear it as well but idk if it means anything

[storm kraken]

I tried to convert it to color but only got some strange colored pixels of 88x88

[radiant perch]

Isn't a "s" just from beginning of the next word?

[storm kraken]

oh no, it's 19x19

[heavy tangle]

suka blyat

[burnt coral]

I'll be trying to decipher stuff after school

[prisma cloak]

2 to 3 could be change f(2) to f(3) in the fibonacci sequence that corresponds to f(2) = 1 and f(3) = 2

[hidden crater]

i think if you listen at normal speed again, the pause after 2 indicates that its "2" and not "to"

[heavy tangle]

CODE ANSWER HERE, this is what we need

[hasty vale]

can we just start banning russians spamming
in every thread

[burnt coral]

Why

A bit of tomfoolery is fine

[pale fossil]

my man is going insane

[hasty vale]

because there's 2 rules exactly against what they are doing and it's not even funny

[heavy tangle]

Or from 2 3 times

[thorny robin]

Because English server?

[prisma cloak]

and 17 is first could also mean f(17) = 1597

[thorny robin]

I don't hear anything

[heavy tangle]

Timing

[open estuary]

1:01

[prisma cloak]

holy fuck that may be it. My guess is that vedal sang the sang for the AI to copy. and the british pronunciation of "to" is a prolong "o~"

[burnt coral]

Wait I have to relisten numbers

[keen tartan]

I thought we talked about this earlier and acknowledged that it's very possible that its a "to" instead "2"

[pulsar maple]

vedal sings? nahhh

[prisma cloak]

its vedal. the accent of the signer is very british, especially when it sang the line:
Add another 9 yeah
Add another line yeah

[hidden crater]

he did sing yesterday

[prisma cloak]

why didnt I backread lmao, i think im close on solving it. schizo cope

[burnt coral]

I hear a two tbh, but I am ESL so don't make any points based on this message

[pale fossil]

[keen tartan]

yea we gonna need a librarian

[prisma cloak]

btw:
The fibonacci figure was shown throughout these lines right?
Add another 6 yeah
Flip the numbers backwards
Make the 2 a 3 yeah
Abcdefg
Multiply by 9 yeah
Add the numbers to 4
17 is first yeah
Abcdefg

I rewrote it to fit the f(n) where n are the numbers.

Add another 8 yeah
Flip the numbers backwards
Make the 1 a 2 yeah
Abcdefg
Multiply by 34 yeah
Add the numbers to 3
1597 is first yeah

[pulsar maple]

what's a librarian job in this case

i'd love to actually do something here

[keen tartan]

document every idea that was brought up in this chat

[pale fossil]

thats batshit insane but gl

[pulsar maple]

holy i think that's not a 1 person job

maybe one for each important thread

[keen tartan]

yea that's what I mean

[pulsar maple]

then they can cross check the ideas

[keen tartan]

one librarian for each thread

[pulsar maple]

if it's already exists

[rose sparrow]

So continuing on the idea that the Fibonacci sequence is a clue to the actual cipher, could it be some sort of fibonacci caesar cipher? https://github.com/beyondmeh/fibonacci-caesar-cipher

[keen tartan]

we will be way more organized

[pale fossil]

create a docs for this thread

[burnt coral]

I think at this point it would be easier managing a dedicated server

[pale fossil]

use what in the cyper

[rose sparrow]

the base64 itself

[storm kraken]

Are we sure she saying "Add another 6 yeah" because no matter how much times I listen to it, even on 0.25 I hear "Add enough to 6 yea"

[pale fossil]

well i have it here in my pc

[keen tartan]

don't wanna waste extra resources to moderate people when there are already mods here that does it for us

[pale fossil]

i can do it

and send her

[pulsar maple]

it doesn't makes sense to me

how much is enough

[prisma cloak]

the limit is 6

[burnt coral]

Enough is enough

[pulsar maple]

huh?

[pale fossil]

BwnUf+z5VKZrEA3n2fm57S3S8a0cx25Z8Ba9doENo3W6yUGkQxtCG6plF2dMtETsVZF5C1ITIarMhH13hxJMSNH928fKpAcVHBPZ0jPRtGW+2EuB8Te91rDwde5xaKugN2IvRhCbfjwBlFKBhjgpg5uAiOTF/MMnphrKYMZzZT+Aa/wrMzfE7rK5RgkNnVSPXKvunEqE95q9f/96sA3ud+geLd/Y4Xl8NDmbTfxi53TJQByG3IQ7BYKRf8ETuUet5U3XBzcnEcA9UuBFBx3cP5LYMbOqXt1v1fsQ5C6LqLh7J/LSgPQnwttYqpdAZ0nTjjclduuU86trv6NdwXdUrwsiwfltVGxn2BirFEJKJEqJYvMkLkys2iEdI+9SITKgv/mQqyiMgxakuekFPTW8gTKYFxPmxLH34Oe7XeQoxf47FUnisniUKRkMfL1qGIgDXOa+1EKK5noC2QJ84VctrIb4/FTTpZ+h1ilLpCGS6yt970rvZNVHYMdqWBaQeBmOog1ktSmvFN1htkwaGvotGY/y832CFdCqNMFoZSLVV8bR4rpUPD2wBM7b9rWf3kBIkpF9J8v1MvONfo5ExwgX5N9oaP8GZNdso4n8ujNwl15kcpDZmi2qT72lcxEXvLAYoCb6r81T7daPS3SqqARrrJ9hLTjOXx824MjskwDKrXqDm9nY+gnv6fjU9moZlDGBbwN4mS7u681k96NxY+X2Ty9ljlZIfdS8CiNyTD+yuGNXw9uancJ/gjUvU/Fmw1Gj/4EjcfTOY67GCmV1lp1SNMdkF4YS9GNgm65+DFdf/oS1+3OFEQKX4xm4EInZkrvZIgEzeEUP86qgC2ybZgy8jwAx3blHQWUqhmo4vhvt1e74zkqvyQnegz4nAVD3MriJ6OTBV6aWA+mIZiTixZLj8+GlPst7Ksr//hUlQtFaNyvzyJJkGiuyTlvxg+/LA8PgLAJXYH+zPLe6wzPuyHaRMtHqDD6QPUWUfgDur887vjGlxGg8dcqWZT9Hpomr16Yi1mCEQ7InLYPRZUp2LV/N7/PGOxWb0QJ8/f1D0q9dWha01tJtYGXVYMSo8Lh6ZvkLEbSlX5pWqEJRSsRTKGNDeZdn22C0e0lP0uG0J9Rqky1S0NB2ZophW6mG7cVR75JraD/KPTwy6bj9zcKm9ADBB32+MFwdG6r7l+hnPPiffdb8Nfz85y970qRx4RQzr3LBeX9LphQKzZfDVNJlj/hZyRwpf89p0Lr0oC0CDp3Bmf5mjNQXyB2GSFD7Ux7VP2MfaA4b9ktFUxvUCJ11sswerRAy9C6W/lJHpMHoSfm2jhS54KMRTaa9gRAmDxENQbYoHHhfCZQ5ZTU3dQMrZD4kAI9VoS85AMmMw6S3GaHhxE0=

here it after the comand

[burnt coral]

Oo

[prisma cloak]

vedal who sang this song for the AI to copy? hahahahaha their pronunciation is damn confusing. "enough" or "another" ? I listened to it again and I swear its "enough"

[pale fossil]

but this one dont swap the numbers

[storm kraken]

I also hear enough instead of another

[pale fossil]

only the letters i believe

[keen tartan]

I can clearly hear the pronunciation of "an" at normal speed so I doubt it, if you wanna go slow mode I suggest go 0.5 or 0.75, 0.25 is too slow it wont be accurate

[storm kraken]

I didnt hear "another" even a singel time from the ebginning of the ARG

[burnt coral]

We have to make a comparison

[pine atlas]

It's another, "enough" doesn't even make sense in the sentence

[burnt coral]

Is the person who made AI vedal sing here?

[prisma cloak]

its british so "en" in "enough" could be pronounced as "an"

[prisma cloak]

most likely

[keen tartan]

how bout the "er" then? its also there, crystal clear

[prisma cloak]

in order for the AI to sing, it needs a reference to copy the tone and pitch

[keen tartan]

if its "enough", we will at least hear an "h" sound but there is none

[prisma cloak]

mann either my ears are in grandpa mode or im just damn tired, but I heard the "gh" breath at the end of the word. We need more ppl to listen and compare.

[keen tartan]

I listened to it at 0.25 speed, I can understand why he can thinks its "enough" BUT that's only because its at 0.25 speed

[prisma cloak]

I listened at normal speed

[minor fiber]

thats why we need official lyrics madge

[heavy tangle]

Stop discussing the Briish beer accent

[prisma cloak]

still heard the word "enough"

[storm kraken]

I hear enough even on normal speed

I tried 0.25 to be sure

[heavy tangle]

You see things where they are not

[prisma cloak]

lets go with "another" i cant see a path towards the solution with "enough" in the context.

[scenic karma]

What about "Add another 9 yeah" and "Add another line yeah" is it the same there as with "Add another 6 yeah" ?

[open estuary]

same

[pine atlas]

She sings "Anoffer" basically

It's meant to be another

[storm kraken]

I hear enough even on 1.5

[pine atlas]

Just with the th sound being a little off

[storm kraken]

am i crazy or what

[heavy tangle]

Add enough 6. And what's the point?

[keen tartan]

its "another" I have no idea how can you even hear "enough"
Also we would've notice it if it's "engouh" at the beginning of solving this ARG

[pine atlas]

I can hear both, but it's meant to be another

[scenic karma]

I agree

[heavy tangle]

This is like Green needle/brainstorm thing

Stop pls

[prisma cloak]

yeah and it doesn't improve our current situation, heck it even makes it worse if it is "enough" like what da hell are we gonna do with "add enough to 6 yeah"

[pine atlas]

Janny/Laurel kind of discussion

[heavy tangle]

It make no sense

[minor fiber]

did we make result on the PNG code ?

[pine atlas]

It's another, end of dicussion

[keen tartan]

yep

[pine atlas]

No need to confuse people more than neccesary

[minor fiber]

i think we might need to try finding the alphabet of the lyrics

"matching all the letters"

[burnt coral]

Then add another 2 6 would make better sense than add another to 6 I think

[heavy tangle]

PNG bruteforce?

[minor fiber]

yes

[heavy tangle]

No hits at all

[pine atlas]

You are confusing two different lines.
It's "Add another 6 yeah"
And "Add the numbers 2 4"

[heavy tangle]

In 1 quadrillion keys

Not 2

2 > "to"

icic

[pine atlas]

Do people think it's not 2 4?

She says numbers, as in plural

Not number

[hidden crater]

but that may refer to all previous numbers

[minor fiber]

maybe we try to find the email linked to the youtube account and ask for the official lyrics to the email

[pine atlas]

Add all previous numbers to 4 doesn't make any sense though

[open estuary]

people think "add the numbers to 4," which may also be correct

[keen tartan]

well, if we are add all the previous numbers to 4, would it look like this xxxxxxxx + 4 = xxxxxxxxx4?
Or 4+ xxxxxxxx = 4xxxxxxxx?

[open estuary]

Let's ask vedal and he will send us the lyrics

[prisma cloak]

let us say the previous numbers are 1597 it could be add 4 for each digit which results to 591311

[hidden crater]

does add mean mathematical addition or string addition?

[pale fossil]

sounds more like to be in the end

[keen tartan]

we dont know

[pale fossil]

again wrong link

[pine atlas]

How does that add numbers to 4?

[heavy tangle]

two four's
to four's
to four
two four

[pine atlas]

That would be adding 4 to the numbers

[heavy tangle]

What is more logical?

[pine atlas]

Not the other way around

[pale fossil]

i really believe its going to be string manipulation shit

[minor fiber]

we need moral support

[pale fossil]

sounds more like programming

[prisma cloak]

so 1597+4?

[ebon marten]

[keen tartan]

that's the argument we had for it yea

[burnt coral]

Oh yeah

[pine atlas]

4 + whatever

[heavy tangle]

Remind me where the number 1597 came from.

[pine atlas]

But that still makes no sense to me

[minor fiber]

but if it's programming you can't "hello" * "world" so each line with multiplying are dead ends

[pale fossil]

fibo sequence

[heavy tangle]

ok

[burnt coral]

Fibonacci

[prisma cloak]

17 in f(17) in fibonacci is 1597

[zealous saddle]

What does the "add another line" lyric mean

[pale fossil]

yeah that makes sense too

[minor fiber]

no idea might be "add another 9"

[pale fossil]

just multiply the string we go by X times

[scenic karma]

To be honest i always thought that the number 2 is a standalone number so 2-
Would result to 2-5729439- as a example

[storm kraken]

Even AI hear enough...

[minor fiber]

2*'string' = > stringstring

we could go with

[harsh folio]

i proved to myself what it's, in fact, need a key

[prisma cloak]

and a "new line" is a new "-" ?

[scenic karma]

yeah because it is "Add another line yeah" so it means we should have already one

[prisma cloak]

woah

[storm kraken]

This is what AI could find in the audio, it missed some parts but it got around 80% right:
"La la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la I can never say, Oh, it's been so long. Counting all the days it's been so damn long. Oh, how much I'm scared to let you go. Somewhere in the walls, I hear you talk. Finding all these numbers. Start with number two, yeah. Matching all the letters, five, seven, two, nine, five, three. Add another line, yeah. Add another line, yeah. Multiply by five, yeah. How long will it keep us on? Oh, how much it hurts to see you go. Generating lyrics is a pain. Add enough for six, yeah flip the numbers backwards make the two a three, yeah ABCDFJ multiply by nine, yeah add the numbers two, four, 17 is first, yeah. Abcd after."

[pale fossil]

so the line would be what?

like the place that we should bruteforce ?

[heavy tangle]

"Add enough for six", so much sense

[keen tartan]

Now hold on

[harsh folio]

Abcd after."

[prisma cloak]

a literal "-"

[minor fiber]

i really think line is just 9

[keen tartan]

if it is "enough" down at that line
Why isnt it "enough" up at those two lines?

[prisma cloak]

"-" can be accepted as a character for the base64 key right?

[keen tartan]

also yes this is most likely the case

[prisma cloak]

nvm, its another

[scenic karma]

Just another case of, if we had the official lyrics we wouldn't have to worry about this

[graceful mulch]

@scenic karma has leveled up! (6 ➜ 7)

[storm kraken]

because AI isn't sure

It painted the first line as "not sure"

but "add enough for six," it was pretty confident in it.

[keen tartan]

[graceful mulch]

@keen tartan has leveled up! (7 ➜ 8)

[keen tartan]

I don't even know what to say to you

[storm kraken]

Maybe we can ask Vedal to provide official lyrics to both videos or to numbers as hint?

[keen tartan]

according to his words "no elp"

[scenic karma]

He probably won't

[heavy tangle]

Yeah, he probably drinks beer

[scenic karma]

And laughs at us

[dense fable]

Tutel pls

[heavy tangle]

Yeah, I'd be laughing, too, if the second day of the my ARG people was still fucking with the pronunciation

[scenic karma]

Isn't it already the 3rd day ?

[heavy tangle]

Yesterday it started

[scenic karma]

Damn, really lost track of time with that stuff

[keen tartan]

damn

we lost him

[heavy tangle]

Oops

I haven't slept in 24 fucking hours, what do you want? x)

[scenic karma]

We understand

[storm kraken]

I slept only 3-4 hours...

[heavy tangle]

Sleep is for the weak

[fading fox]

vedal is making fans lose there psyche

[pale fossil]

become AI so we dont need to sleep anymore

[fading fox]

just like neuro

[calm zealot]

so overdose on coffee?

[thorny robin]

Secret preparations to turn us into ai?

[heavy tangle]

On vodka

[fading fox]

this arg will reveal all of vedals crimes

[thorny robin]

Briish tea

[calm zealot]

briish e

[thorny robin]

ea

[heavy tangle]

Briish beer

[pulsar maple]

banana rum

[storm kraken]

Even one of the worst AI hear "enough" - "Add enough the sexy ass"

[thorny robin]

It might be worth going to https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1112082183235047506 so not to stop people here from really thinking

[zealous saddle]

I dont know how i ended up with 59391HGZYXWFECDABLKJ6

[pulsar maple]

where is this from

[prisma cloak]

starting from here:
Add another 6 yeah
Flip the numbers backwards
Make the 2 a 3 yeah
Abcdefg
Multiply by 9 yeah
Add the numbers to 4
17 is first yeah
Abcdefg

substitute the numbers to n for f(n) in the fibonacci sequence

[heavy tangle]

Worst one

[keen tartan]

have you considered maybe that's why you hear "enough" when we all hear "another"

[storm kraken]

Not only me, the AI also hear it.

[thorny robin]

What timing are you arguing about

[storm kraken]

I tired already like 3 different AI audio to text and they all hear "enough"

[scenic karma]

I am really unsure where the 4's are we should add the numbers.

[zealous saddle]

I found this making Numbers into letters, does this work?

5 = JKL
7 = PQRS
2 = ABC
9 = WXYZ
4 = GHI
3 = DEF

[heavy tangle]

AI also on 2+2 prompt answering 5

[graceful mulch]

@heavy tangle has leveled up! (4 ➜ 5)

[open estuary]

0:35 and 0:53

[prisma cloak]

how did you arrive on this?

[graceful mulch]

@prisma cloak has leveled up! (6 ➜ 7)

[zealous saddle]

Nuro's brain Is a mess and looks around for answers

[scenic karma]

Understandable

[keen tartan]

no like really
how?

[storm kraken]

The song in UK EN or US EN?

[prisma cloak]

lmao did u just alphabetically assigned the letters on the numbers from least to greatest? hahahaha mental gymnastics to the highest order. we truly need some sleep.

[zealous saddle]

Idk search about turning Numbers into letters

[thorny robin]

I can almost clearly hear th, idk

[zealous saddle]

I thought of old Phone keys

[prisma cloak]

that could be

wait...

[scenic karma]

Oh

[open estuary]

i think it "anoffer" (another)

[robust scaffold]

I know someone made this aleready but I'm making a (pretty) generator interpreting lyric line per ligne (with multiple possible interpretation)
(I just found it fun to make it that way, even if it's not the most practical way to do it)

[thorny robin]

Can be confused with enough, yes, but I still hear more th

[thorny robin]

yeah

[pine atlas]

We're still not on the "another" "enough" thing are we?

It's another but with an f sound

[zealous saddle]

You know, like they had Numbers u had to press a bunch of times to make letters change

[prisma cloak]

yeah

ur on to something

[scenic karma]

This sounds like a new trail

[prisma cloak]

let me substitute it with my calculated answer

[zealous saddle]

Nuro just had a theory with the Phone keys

[prisma cloak]

what about zero though?

on the phone keys, zero corresponds to "spaces"

underscore?

[thorny robin]

Honestly, that if only one person is trying to make a point, I don't see the point in arguing. + how can you truly use "enough" in the context of everything?

[zealous saddle]

Add another line oooohh

[prisma cloak]

holy fuck

[harsh folio]

i've done some dumb useless shit
i think, when it says numbers it probably mean numbers after all, duh

[keen tartan]

Library is up, im gonna go back and look at ideas we had
add what ever ideas you have into the library

[prisma cloak]

send link

[prisma reef]

are you done guys

[prisma cloak]

or is it on the gdrive?

[keen tartan]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1haiT--yrMQAhPNJlqa5JU5FbEwrkOOWWBg8FHP1vXB0/edit#

[prisma reef]

Who the fuck

[hidden crater]

gottem LULE

[burnt coral]

Deez Balls

[prisma reef]

so many people here

[scenic karma]

With the Phone out of ABCDFG becomes 222334

[storm kraken]

if we talking about 6. 222=6, 33=6, only 4 left.

[heavy tangle]

Bruteforce base64 for UTF-8 has ended. No hits

[prisma reef]

nah wtf

is happening over here

u guys r so smart prob

[heavy tangle]

NO WAYYYY, ITS VIDAL

[pale fossil]

[prisma reef]

Vedal spotted

[prisma cloak]

Should we add a "Solution Approach" section in the library @keen tartan? Like a section where we can put the steps on our approaches to solve for the key.

[keen tartan]

done

[zealous saddle]

Nuro has added her theory

[dense fable]

How yall doing fellow nerds

[zealous saddle]

Losing braicells

[prisma cloak]

thanks

[limpid swift]

Have you gotten this to work in CyberChef? I'm struggling
The password used was just "meow" and I've padded the rest with t to make 16 bytes but it doesn't like it

[dense fable]

The same then

[hidden crater]

one thing that bothering me, is the scope of "numbers" because in study there is the same line about finding all the numbers, and also some numbers and letters like abc xyz 543

[storm kraken]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_jpWySBgrE

[muted goblet]

Need to from base64 first

[graceful mulch]

@muted goblet has leveled up! (1 ➜ 2)

[storm kraken]

It's really similar to the first song

[limpid swift]

Anything special about the base64? It's not happy still

[muted goblet]

from b64, not to

[gloomy cedar]

It's the sample that was used for Numbers.

[limpid swift]

ugh duh

That does it thanks,, this is great

[dense fable]

I am obligated to sub to them

[storm kraken]

Yes, probably. Maybe it has some clues?

[limpid swift]

Amazing you figured this out, you should make a blog post about it or something I'd love to read a full guide on how you did this

[kindred parrot]

abcdefj -> start with 2 -> bcdefj = 234569 -> 572943
idk what i'm sayin

[storm kraken]

it's probably abcdefg

[sacred ruin]

its g

gee not jay

neuro's TTS says g like gee and j like jay

[woven crest]

Random idea:
When they say multiply could we use "x" so when they say multiply by 9 we add "X9" to the answer

[keen tartan]

yep, was mention several times before, problem is what do we do with the X

[keen tartan]

one of the many branches if we are to use "X" when multiply

[prisma cloak]

is the symbol "-" an allowed char for base64 key?

[radiant perch]

"Potential key" for what type of cypher exactly?

[kindred parrot]

sad

[keen tartan]

no idea, I was just trying to figure what can I get from following the lyrics instruction

[eager garden]

n

The only special symbols are +, /, =

[prisma cloak]

noted

[kindred parrot]

we donn't know for sure its aes

[eager garden]

That would be 00-0xff

[tall copper]

was able to get at least some decode
although it looks like a garbage. But all the keys I tried before gave out an error.

using the path with the old phone got MJ*WDGWAPJD*WAG (after the first * there should be a _, but I entered it into the encryptor (https://www.devglan.com/online-tools/text-encryption-decryption) with an error)

also if convert the description to base64 the first character is Q - 17 in the alphabet

[thorny robin]

Does anyone have a theory why, in the description, this moment was specifically singled out as separate music? Just this one.

[calm zealot]

was there a 1 frame clue at that timestamp that we found already? I know there's a few but idk if it's on that time

[scenic karma]

Both are pointed out

[heavy tangle]

Im off guys

Gl with ARG

[minor fiber]

bye

[calm zealot]

cya

I've made a short program that generates the results of all combinations of every interpretation of the lyrics https://github.com/Vortrox/NeuroARG-lyrics-number-generator/blob/master/numbers_dfs_generator.py it should be easy to modify as we come up with more interpretations to each line from the lyrics- just add more yield statements to the corresponding line function

current output: https://github.com/Vortrox/NeuroARG-lyrics-number-generator/blob/master/output.txt

[thorny robin]

Yes, it's just that why highlight this point...? Maybe I'm overthinking it.

[limpid swift]

Very useful thank you

[shrewd trench]

Both instances are the I think I saw a ghost drop

[limpid swift]

Do you wanna use my Gitlab? 👉 👈
https://gitlab.legitcorp.com/neuro-arg

[shrewd trench]

The first one has the ANXIETY thing, but the second one doesn't have much of anything besides static

[keen tartan]

try keeping this thread topic about Numbers, otherwise it get super confusing whenever somebody tries to trace back messages in threads

[heady jetty]

have we had any breakthroughs

[calm zealot]

I've never used Gitlab before but sure once I figure it out lol

[limpid swift]

It's mostly the same as Github

But this one is self-hosted

[calm zealot]

as in on a private server kind of self hosted ? interesting

[limpid swift]

ye

[heavy tangle]

Gitea the best selfhost git

Oops, i need to go to bed

[limpid swift]

I do like Gitea too yeah

Might switch to it one day

[clever lintel]

guys join my git repo http://localhost:420/awesome/_git

[limpid swift]

Why does this say "FBI Data Collection Probe"?

[hasty vale]

someone is going to send an ip grabber here one day as a clue and get a bunch of ips for free

[scenic karma]

Maybe it happen already

[pulsar maple]

and people are gonna click it

i have seen like 2 discord mods total around these places

[uncut hare]

i click every link

[tiny garden]

i mean what are you gonna do with a bunch of random's ips

[calm zealot]

sure they can grab my IP but it's not like they can do anything with it except find my minecraft port/DOS me

[scenic karma]

sell them ?

[uncut hare]

the ip grabber has already been posted in https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1112988479140417567