Neuro ARG - Cracking the "Numbers" Video

[sacred ruin]

and wait

preferably 1-2h

or days

or weeks

[pulsar maple]

should we announce the range we're planning to do

[tiny garden]

I'm planning to do everything that starts with 17 and ends with 24 that is 16 digits long if I can speed up my code

[sacred ruin]

so

ill do the number generation code

ill send the python file here

you guys run it

[minor fiber]

why do you need number generation ?

[lavish totem]

i have a feeling it has more to do with base64 indexing than decryption

[sacred ruin]

to generate keys

duh

[near perch]

i feel like brute forcing isn't the best idea

because we don't even know how it is encoded

[minor fiber]

oh no for sure it isn't the best idea

[sacred ruin]

we're decoding this first

its AES

[ebon marten]

i wouldn't be surprised if the decoded version would be the actual key to the big description text

[minor fiber]

aren't the key just a range of number ?

[limpid swift]

It's also encoded in base64 which is a popular thing online text encryption sites do after encrypting the data to make it easy to pass around, doesn't mean anything solid necessarily though you could be right

[sacred ruin]

yes

[lavish totem]

the only thing im going off of is "abcdefg" mentioned in order.

"matching letters" being mentioned etc like how indexes match letters

[minor fiber]

#1112401279680008242 message

there was also this approach

we could also try the lyrics and see what numbers come up in the lot of the result except 17 and 24 to get more byte for brute force

[night galleon]

isn't that from a study video?

[minor fiber]

did someone test the first bit of the song "la la lala" for morse code ?

[ebon marten]

even if it is morse code

it would be several letters and that's not very important

[minor fiber]

Start with number 2 yeah Matching all the letters 572943 Add another 9 yeah Add another line yeah Multiply by 5 yeah Add another 6 yeah Flip the numbers backwards Make the 2 a 3 yeah Abcdefg Multiply by 9 yeah Add the numbers 2 4 17 is first yeah Abcdefg

[lusty spade]

:NeuroCheer: Start with number 2 yeah :NeuroCheer: Matching all the letters 572943 :NeuroCheer: Add another 9 yeah :NeuroCheer: Add another line yeah :NeuroCheer: Multiply by 5 yeah :NeuroCheer: Add another 6 yeah :NeuroCheer: Flip the numbers backwards :NeuroCheer: Make the 2 a 3 yeah :NeuroCheer: Abcdefg :NeuroCheer: Multiply by 9 yeah :NeuroCheer: Add the numbers 2 4 :NeuroCheer: 17 is first yeah :NeuroCheer: Abcdefg :NeuroCheer:

[pulsar maple]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-discord-nitro-nitro-free-nitro-free-discord-nitro-gif-19035049

[night galleon]

Start with number 2 yeah Matching all the letters 572943 Add another 9 yeah Add another line yeah Multiply by 5 yeah Add another 6 yeah Flip the numbers backwards Make the 2 a 3 yeah Abcdefg Multiply by 9 yeah Add the numbers 2 4 17 is first yeah Abcdefg

[pseudo citrus]

ngl the song is a banger

[minor fiber]

indeed

[ebon marten]

yeah

[minor fiber]

can't wait to solve it and start study

[limpid swift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GdyGOKf4rk NUMBERS

[spring widget]

hi all

have we come up with ways to try or eliminate possibilities or have we just come up with more things to test

[minor fiber]

not much just general sense of pain over lyrics

i think someone is trying base64 indexing instead of AES

[pulsar maple]

based and shondopilled (i've seen this but it's still based)

[dense hill]

is that the riddle?

[minor fiber]

also lyrics in study video might be a clue

[minor fiber]

yes

[pulsar maple]

[spring widget]

gonna go add my thoughts to numbers doc

[pulsar maple]

(guys check out the google docs)

[spring widget]

to hopefully avoid some repeat questions

[minor fiber]

ABC - > 543 ?

[dense hill]

for me it looks a bit like an API key or password

[minor fiber]

tried JWT but doesn't match

if the result is something we can send to an API it would be nice tho

[tepid rune]

ABCDEF->543210?

Maybe I’m not making sense though

[dense hill]

I found that

こひもとそ+なえみさぃまこせあつふきつえやきあかゆせわとそふえなゆこひよんいせらちあまおさきすくんそきなりおもみぃふいもなはひひちくとえさぬたてからたっかきぬあとくぃすとともよふゆせっららせてひたとすわいそっらまな+ふはかこゆとしよぬせちすひすえそとくまとらふひまとてときちますてこたりみなにとちしえそはひきんそめらりらせにともこすくもなこ+しりめのたっりいせやこはえてきせとさのすしのりままたてりすよえんよちめよおひんあひそ+きしのこめひうとしゆちにいんにすんひえあくのはすしこあにりやてらひとすゆすときはここえっあのかいつせししちよひひしにきはあせのえかこさせみしまとぬきぬせみひえそおたひひてやにめっはくしはたららききりとここんわみとにくつきひくつもゆおたきくおらたのんとのてすとしすひてなくかてつふもはつのすこせききせのんてみもらせきはふしもきか+よきくきてはきめてりひんみすたもつんくはんなとりすゆかこはこしんらもてのはあうりつやせすひきななうやすひちてかそんっはすはくひてぬすとひはせにりに+ぬまさそえとりぃふせのゆうひしなかりきうめみきらさそ+とぬてのんここすそおかんよやわすちぃさのきもっいいりぃとりすまくすもくぬまかすりかそにぬつきせらさひくせきなっめみゆあふとのんそりにそたせりはのくきゆんっうてそもなちふんちみやこよとさくあみきたさのみよもゆきぬちなこっいつえらとこきそえとよんせらゆなもらすくすうはゆせてひすらぬえにしらしんりきふみらやふしせそてなのさこりそしたおくゆぬんやんちのみあにこすもぃたしなよいかんてきそなゆふうらにかのさぃもなそんたくよひこ+すこなおとひかよさんなたしりきりりもうちはやひおゆぬんよおそちた+とふききよきもまちくはそすゆちはにたきに+たすひっんまよにこそとらめこませたのめたみにぬかにめうたなつみんこたおやりっらなぬもせぬかららきせみうりみよらたすちおえ+そとせいめつそぬ+あまのぃひせくうもりうとひらみつなみなひらっそそはかせゆおせはちふひてすかしゆこかせまあそんひすりのひそもまうたさきなぬたやうもまそきひんとすんいうのそなぃあもとまりおすんまにおひぃし+さてんひはくにまきらゆ+きたなそにやまきいめめににちかりちみひかんさつにままはきすかりんちせし+めちもゆたかっこんみしそ+つのきなおくちこくさかりらなんなににちおとらひてひきにきつつゆゆやにいららになはゆたらせくまらよもせかすこぬおみくぬちせはぃやさたしかそっなさみふもなめみやめらはもなすかわしらゆめさぬちわはよせさならわぬなんましこさたかそしせゆさなおんくひにもきはしそえもんせはまとかななんとかにりくのすもふふせわたわのちわいこわらよすひせにぬくわもせふもせしてっおいこやせしもやえもせこそめのらとなひおてこよもくそまよせせそらあふ+ちきりかりおもやり+そにはちますとそみゆんそくゆえしよやわしまそうらとんとありそはっよらなせしはくそたすなちひのなめすなしすこなせゆよいわのはわこしわたととあかくとえないたらんさこふはすしちやせせやになふぃそせもうそよさくきまみちせそぃぬぬみにくはしぃっのよみおかめからなくすぃたすきもふのになえうみすっきひによまそらりたましんちてしらももすなこみしえちくまあきにくいくんうみんまよならすゆえっのまくらおはありとぃてまはわ=

google translate:

kohimotoso+naemi Kinuato Kuisu Tomoyo Fuyu Seratta Sawai Sora Mana Eso wa Hikin Somerari Rase Toko Suku Monako + Shirime no Tari Ise When you're in the middle of the day, you're in the middle of the day. Yani Mehakushi is a tragedy, and it's hard to get tired of it. Fushimokika+Yokikikutehakiterihin Misutamo Tsunku Hannatori Suyuka Hitenusu and Hihase Nirini + Numasa Soe Tori Fuse no Yuuhishinakakariki Ume Mikira Saso + Tonu Tenko Suso Kanyo Mokunumakasurikaso ni nutsukiserasa hikusekiname miyuafuto sori hanokuki yun This is a good idea Nayufuura Nikanosaimona Sontakuyohiko Taki ni + tasu hinmayo Sonu + Amanoi Hisekuu Moriu and Hiramitsu Minami Hirasso Hakase Yuose Hachifuhi Tesukashi Yukokase Sonaiamotomariosuma nihiishi + satenhihakunimakirayu Yutakakonmishiso + Tsunokinokuchikokusakarira If you don't mind, I don't know what to do I'm afraid I'm a little scared. + Chikirikari Omoyari + I'm going to go there To be honest, I'm not sure if I'm going to miss you kihi yoma sora tama shin shira momo

[prisma reef]

what the actual fuck is going on here

[ebon marten]

chills

[stoic yacht]

hold on im out of the loop where is that japanese text from

[dense hill]

https://dencode.com/

[prisma reef]

you guys still trying to get the secret of numbers video

[spring widget]

what

[prisma reef]

[spring widget]

where did u get that

[amber cargo]

what is this-

[dense hill]

I but it in a decode website

[harsh folio]

[stoic yacht]

yea but where did you get the japanese text from?

[dense hill]

one of them is "JIS Keyboard"

[pulsar maple]

what is what

[spring widget]

the base64

he just dumped the base64 in a website to decode it to random japanese chars

i dont think it has any meaning

even gt couldnt get most of the words

[prisma reef]

why is there = at the end even tho its decoded base64?

or wha

[pulsar maple]

Yani mehakusi is a tragedy wha-

[spring widget]

his decoder isnt supposed to take base64

[stoic yacht]

I feel like it's important to note that any solving method that requires translation is probably wrong. Translation from one language to another changes from individual to individual, with word choices and whatnot

[ebon marten]

yeah

[pulsar maple]

yeah translation leads to mistranslation

[dense hill]

I found int insteresitng because some lines could be translated to english

[pulsar maple]

or something

[spring widget]

well it was a good try

we havent done it before

but i do think its kinda just random

[dense hill]

yes
mostly random

[harsh folio]

me too, JIS keyboard, me too

[pulsar maple]

i'm a little scared too

[dense hill]

for some reasons it fits too got to neuro

[minor fiber]

Start with number 2 yeah Matching all the letters 572943 Add another 9 yeah Add another line yeah Multiply by 5 yeah Add another 6 yeah Flip the numbers backwards Make the 2 a 3 yeah Abcdefg Multiply by 9 yeah Add the numbers 2 4 17 is first yeah Abcdefg

[spring widget]

2 572943 9 5 6 2 3 9 2 4 17

[lusty spade]

engineer

[thorny robin]

Numbers

More numbers

[pallid silo]

dumb neuro dont know howto maTH

[thorny robin]

[pallid silo]

and neither do i

[thorny robin]

Ngl, i want her to sing it on the stream

[minor fiber]

What if the key is [Filtered]

[marble shoal]

Numbers

[eager garden]

This doesn't seem to mean anything...?

[minor fiber]

You can also try Chinese char but probably will mean nothing

[fresh breach]

it doesn't

[prisma reef]

You silly goose

[harsh folio]

Finding all these numbers means nothing you think?

[dense hill]

wait a minute
how about it changes in between some amount of characters?
I don't know if the translation is right, but "If you don't mind, I don't know what to do I'm afraid I'm a little scared." sounds not too much wrong

[harsh folio]

my first thought was gather all numbers from that desc code

[dense hill]

like it is a mix of different endcodings

[minor fiber]

or maybe you do the lyrics on the desc "start with 2 .." and then translate to jp

[minor fiber]

53257380258936625113928028915257595996348533785393511567086622983474711528441697011832842793981559848152726817398249694768196298914671149651344862834174436687866887891617270810901865220000910267756993267885970439890003527724911962549534985630

all numbers in the desc

[tepid rune]

Integrate differentiate

[tiny garden]

this is essentially just doing nothing btw

[pine atlas]

Full schizo mode, can we find the numbers from the lyrics in that set on numbers

[tepid rune]

It was a joke

Also the lyrics from Study

[minor fiber]

we ruled out RSA but what about PGP etc

[clever lintel]

0123456789 guys i found all the numbers. These are all of them

[untold frigate]

those are all the digits, not all the numbers

[pulsar maple]

abcdef?

[robust scaffold]

[-inf,inf] found R

I put [] like an idiot not ][

[sharp orchid]

Seeing this, I remember one of the lyrics said something about wasting six years of her life for the engineering degree.

[uncut hare]

i found it

solved

[minor fiber]

wut

[near perch]

we are free

[sharp orchid]

What's that for?

[uncut hare]

its the number

[minor fiber]

for what ?

[eager garden]

?

[pulsar maple]

random numbers

it's a jork guys

[eager garden]

rand ok

[limpid swift]

Wait a minute

Vedal did say random was AI

https://clips.twitch.tv/AssiduousBoredAyeayeAliens-Bx9bAvdVQwvw_vYO

[pine atlas]

Vedal said no hints, part or future

So unlikely anything he has said matters to the arg

[limpid swift]

deep insight into Vedal's mind

[near perch]

interesting clip name

[pine atlas]

I mean he just said it in the arg chat and deleted it 3 seconds afterwards :P

[pulsar maple]

this is the best attitude for creating ARGs

[sharp orchid]

Sad

[uncut hare]

[sharp orchid]

TRUE!!!!!!

[pulsar maple]

truee

[pale fossil]

btw there is a original lyrics of the song without any editing?

only what she sang

[pulsar maple]

acapella?

[minor fiber]

The lyrics came from a comment under the video (not official lyrics)

[heavy nexus]

I can try and make one real quick.

[minor fiber]

There should already have one on the drive

Under files -> numbers

There is vocals and music sperated

[heavy nexus]

I see it there, but I didn't know if having different versions would help.

[pulsar maple]

anything could help at this point

[pine atlas]

When she sings about "It's been so damn long" is she talking about the 3 more years that is mentioned in the engineer lyrics?

[stoic yacht]

i mean who knows

[robust scaffold]

I don't think she would talk about the future (3 more years) with past (been)

[stoic yacht]

are the numbers song and the study songs connected? same character/girl in both?

[pine atlas]

Who's to say that the videos were made in the same frame of time?

They were released at the same time

But numbers could in theory be after those 3 years

[robust scaffold]

probably, they have "Finding all these numbers" as common lyrics for exemple

[robust scaffold]

true

[sacred ruin]

okay

i've done communication between client & server

it gives ranges and it decodes

[pine atlas]

She's singing about how she's unsure if she even wants to keep going as an engineer, and in numbers, if it's at the end of her studies, it would make sense that she's singing about being scared of letting it go

Not a person, but her studies

[pine atlas]

[mild dagger]

I actually think it's the other way

So like she (or vedal) is in college, finished first year, and not sure if they want to continue

School not doing it for them, basically

[pulsar maple]

maybe it's vedal that didn't want to be an engineer

[thorny robin]

Schizo?

[mild dagger]

Yeah that's what I thought honestly

[pulsar maple]

🤯

[pine atlas]

It's Vedal singing confirmed?

[mild dagger]

Or at least he or she doesn't want to be in school

Which is understandable

[heavy nexus]

Alright, here's my version of the vocals. This iteration of the model tends to be more safe compared to others, so a bit of the instruments got through. Though, it is also more used to human vocals.

[pulsar maple]

nice

[tepid rune]

abcdefj

[sacred ruin]

program is going well

[prisma cloak]

do we know the encryption algorithm used? I found a possible key that might decode

just don't know which algorithm to decode it with

[robust scaffold]

we asume a block cipher so we mostly try AES

[prisma cloak]

okay I'll try and decode

[minor fiber]

im using AES ECB NoPadding to decode

[robust scaffold]

anybody have an java AES decypher code ready ?
seems like java faster than python to decode AES and I'm to lazy to lean C++
(https://singipedia.singidunum.ac.rs/preuzmi/43360-comparison-of-the-efficiency-of-aes-implementations-on-major-web-platforms/4439)
I would like to make an client for Darkeew code (if he agree) in Java (I know a litle about java socket)

[uncut hare]

java

[robust scaffold]

yeah I live in hell

[minor fiber]

https://aesencryption.net/

i yoinked the one here

[night galleon]

please do

[robust scaffold]

ok thank !

[keen tartan]

Damn seem like you guys made a lot of progress since last night

[minor fiber]

[white vigil]

we have?

[ancient python]

[pale fossil]

Aware

[blazing wagon]

There's a plan, sure. But it's nowhere near a breakthrough

[pale fossil]

Yeah we did

[graceful mulch]

@blazing wagon has leveled up! (86 ➜ 87)

[pale fossil]

We ran in circles a lot

This count as progress right

=/

[keen tartan]

doesn't seem like the same circle as last night

that's progress

[limpid swift]

I've put together this script to help us test passwords against the Devglan site https://gitlab.legitcorp.com/neuro-arg/devglan-decryptor-script

yo can I get some praise please

[minor fiber]

[limpid swift]

[stoic yacht]

LETS FUCKING GO BAA

[limpid swift]

[minor fiber]

[limpid swift]

[tepid rune]

[harsh folio]

you should make doc ig

which passwords already checked or something

[limpid swift]

That is a good idea

Making a new script now for the substitution cipher

For every number

Swap in every letter, then generate every ROT, then test all combinations of adjacent numbers under 26 and then every ROT again

For every potential cipher

[harsh folio]

how long slapping this specific codes can take bc we can't be even sure we move in the right direction

[pulsar maple]

wow baa this is very helpful!

[sacred ruin]

bet

after i finish this one

should finish it today

idk

[limpid swift]

Good luck

[fading fox]

surely vedal didnt spam 1000 random letters and numbers

[limpid swift]

Vedal never intended for this to be solved

it was to distract us while he creates the true puzzle

[sacred ruin]

and

[limpid swift]

his Bank Account password

[sacred ruin]

if we dont find the key

with 17xxx24

we go for 16 numbers

we trollin

[minor fiber]

surely by that time we will have better stuff like maybe the official lyrics

[uncut hare]

official lyrics

[kindred parrot]

wait what happened

also guys i think we might be missing hints in the waiting screen:
https://clips.twitch.tv/CreativeProtectiveNeanderthalSoBayed-3SClKCKZDpmHV8xH

[tiny garden]

hmm

[pine atlas]

What are you refering to?

[tiny garden]

this is slower than i thought it'd be

[robust scaffold]

just aking, we are using what size for the key ?

[tiny garden]

only 15 hours to go

[kindred parrot]

for example, on the screen, it says C:\basement\Neuro

[pine atlas]

Am I going full schizo or is there a noise at 0:23 in the clip that isn't usually there?

It might have always been there

It just sounds off

[thorny robin]

I don't think it's useful

[minor fiber]

16

only numerical

[robust scaffold]

ok thank !

[kindred parrot]

ESA!

text neuro

[robust scaffold]

numerical as bytes or as ASCII ?

[robust scaffold]

cause this code use SHA-1 digest of acssi

[minor fiber]

no idea

[kindred parrot]

Ok, one thing i thought of: what if the things floating across screen are not random?

[ebon shale]

in the bocchi video at 47:18 in the stream there is text in the backround, i dont know if it is of any help

[minor fiber]

that might be something add it to the doc ?

[pale fossil]

I believe they talked about this

[graceful mulch]

@pale fossil has leveled up! (2 ➜ 3)

[pale fossil]

And said it was unlikely to have any meaning

But you can put there

[hasty vale]

the neuro in text is already in the doc btw

[kindred parrot]

do the positions mean anythgn?

[tepid rune]

I really don't think he involved anyone in this

Except the qr code

[tepid rune]

Self contained things are probably more like it

[ebon shale]

exactly that text

[thorny robin]

huh

[ebon shale]

i dont know what is writen on the left but maybe it could mean something

[heavy nexus]

Soundboards in shows usually look like that.

[thorny robin]

oh

discord

[pulsar maple]

goddess rant

[thorny robin]

sometimes i ... myself as a...

[kindred parrot]

lol

prizes

[ebon shale]

ok, then it wasnt anything 💀

[pulsar maple]

"sometimes i envisioned myself as a goddess, overlooking my followers as they sing me praises"
something like that

[kindred parrot]

ah

[junior forum]

"Sometimes I envision myself as a goddess(?) over looking my followers as they sing my praises"

[pale fossil]

CLASSIC SCHIZO

[junior forum]

Got beaten, lol

[pulsar maple]

goddess rant

[harsh folio]

classic

[urban folio]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1072697081443131476/1112779047315972186/hmmmm.gif might be a clue might not be, this was posted in #neurotic-neurons by the same artist behind the QR code. Might be worth a peek?

GL to y'all 🫡

[kindred parrot]

hm

[tiny garden]

oh god not an enigma machine

[pale fossil]

OH SHIT HERE WE GO

[tiny garden]

at least it has all the required info

[junior forum]

[kindred parrot]

yep

[pulsar maple]

this one seems interesting because it's an actual encrypting machine

[urban folio]

other thread is saying it's an enigma machine

[tiny garden]

it is

[pulsar maple]

it is

[urban folio]

I'm mostly a bystander just wanted to keep people who are exclusively in this thread in the loop

[tiny garden]

could probably use https://www.101computing.net/enigma-machine-emulator/

seems to have all the features in a simple interface

[urban folio]

roman numerals on her sleeve too btw

[pulsar maple]

also need a pic without neuro's hand covering things

[pale fossil]

everything is encrypted with the enigma machine

[kindred parrot]

use https://cryptii.com/pipes/enigma-machine?

[pale fossil]

imagine

[thorny robin]

every time i see this

but still very cool animation

[kindred parrot]

inital settings

[junior forum]

I(?) V III

[pulsar maple]

even humans are not immune to the cursed fingers thing 😭

[thorny robin]

15/05/23

[limpid swift]

We got both channels working on the same thing now

[kindred parrot]

wait

[ebon shale]

the roman numbers should be the rotors which where used to encode the message

[kindred parrot]

lo

we don't know whci

[kindred parrot]

wedon't know them

[ebon shale]

I V III

[thorny robin]

third number goes only to 26

[kindred parrot]

wait

i see

[ebon shale]

on her sleave

[kindred parrot]

yeah

[tepid rune]

Also the Roman numeral on her hands

[pale fossil]

the numbers op there is prob a1z26

[tepid rune]

Yeah those

1 5 3 ?

[kindred parrot]

what enigma model is it

her sleave says "LOL"

[thorny robin]

[junior forum]

Red herring much?-

[kindred parrot]

to figure out:

• model
• reflector (if they have it)

ok i am doing wires

[hasty vale]

posting it here just in case
ptplwtigxzgtxilsyjmdhrizbg <- here second number changes
xwuziwdgistbybb

[kindred parrot]

cool

[tepid rune]

Also what does Neuro clicks on in the gif might be important

[jovial dust]

PTPLWTIGXZGTXILSYJMDHRIZBGWUZIWDGISTBYBB

[kindred parrot]

ptplwtigxzgtxilsyjmdhrizbgxwuziwdgistbybb
PTPLWTIGXZGTXILSYJMDHRIZBGWUZIWDGISTBYBB

which

[harsh folio]

#1112082183235047506 message

solved

[kindred parrot]

troll -- "sorry mario the princess is in another castle"

[thorny robin]

so we need another castle

[limpid swift]

How much are castles??

£250 we can do that?? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/234456722116

[uncut hare]

buy 3

[pulsar maple]

yeah the machine is still useful to keep

[ebon shale]

what if the numbers are the postions of the rotors on the enigma machine

[kindred parrot]

its solved but its in the gif

[ebon shale]

no, i mean of the song

what if it is somehow related

[kindred parrot]

uhhh

hmm

[thorny robin]

#1112082183235047506 message

[frigid moth]

[shrewd trench]

more interpretations of the lyrics

[thorny robin]

I think it's just a reference to what she said on streams, that's all

[raven lion]

What does the oew come from?

[pale fossil]

Maybe the lyrics are telling what we need to do with the enigma machine

Schizo

[amber cargo]

Any luck with the brute forcing yet btw?

[pulsar maple]

[raven lion]

Oh

[kindred parrot]

vedal what are the actual lyrics pls

[wild cargo]

1 he aint here 2 he wont tell you

[minor fiber]

he isn't folowing this thread say it in the other one

[uncut hare]

vedal actual lyrics official lyrics

[thorny robin]

He only in https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1112082183235047506

[raven lion]

Could rotor 2 be III
And
Rotor 3 be V

Just to match the e and w

[pulsar maple]

he could be lurking here too

[thorny robin]

owe?

[pulsar maple]

who knows

he's a professional lurker

[kindred parrot]

not in list

but alex is so

[pulsar maple]

won't even leave reaction on messages

[sacred ruin]

its also checking them right?

only 17m per second?

thats sad

[tiny garden]

only

it's at 6% now

[prisma idol]

i just tested that base64 from desc in all caesar cipher variations, but none of it works

[harsh folio]

good to know

[pulsar maple]

wishing your pc good luck

keep it up

[tiny garden]

at some point later I can try checking for something else that isn't text

[kindred parrot]

i have to go to work gl everyone

[tiny garden]

checking for binary data is so much faster than validating utf8

[scenic karma]

Should we take the numbers that are said in period where the Fibonacci sequence is shown and work with the output from each number through Fibonacci ?

Meaning out of :

Add another 6 yeah Flip the numbers backwards Make the 2 a 3 yeah Abcdefg Multiply by 9 yeah Add the numbers 2 4 17 is first yeah Abcdefg
becomes
Add another 8 yeah Flip the numbers backwards Make the 1 a 2 yeah Abcdefg Multiply by 34 yeah Add the numbers 1 3 1597 is first yeah Abcdefg

[pale fossil]

could actually be

[tiny garden]

I could stream a bit of cracking if anyone's interested

[pulsar maple]

the numbers

[sacred ruin]

@tiny garden python?

or java

[tiny garden]

rust

[sacred ruin]

guh

send the code

[tiny garden]

I'm eating rn

[minor fiber]

use svelte

quick website to see live progress

[tiny garden]

@sacred ruin https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/7e360fe024174f4e9a518b39f62605df

[sacred ruin]

how do i run it

[tiny garden]

you need the rust nightly toolchain, and need to put these in a project

though I don't see why you'd want to run it

[sacred ruin]

do you have more threads than me

had to delete that file

regardless

[tiny garden]

no you need to delete your existing file

[tiny garden]

i did that to stop you accidentally overwriting

[thorny robin]

wait, am I schizo or does qr disappear faster and there is no animation on it?

[tiny garden]

wtf how are you overwriting stakc

do you have the base64 file

[sacred ruin]

yep

base64.txt

where do i store it

at src right?

[tiny garden]

src/base64.txt, should look like this

[tiny garden]

how tf is this overflowing its stack

anyways try going to line 16 and decrease the number a bit

i guess your pc can't handle ~800kB on each thread's stack for some reason

[sacred ruin]

i uh

whats the name of the line

[sacred ruin]

mine is deformated

[tiny garden]

wtf lol

[sacred ruin]

feedback chunk size

doubled it

[tiny garden]

yeah that might overflow the stack on the thread due to my silly programming

[sacred ruin]

yeah it was

1m rate

aw

[tiny garden]

are you running in release

(cargo run --release)

[tiny garden]

that's fine that's just my bad code

[clever lintel]

why are we writing rust code?

[sacred ruin]

42k

release

huh

[tiny garden]

wh

[sacred ruin]

oh 12m

[tiny garden]

give it a seconds

what are you running on?

[sacred ruin]

my computer

[tiny garden]

funny idk

[sacred ruin]

i did this

[clever lintel]

glad to see everyone's spiraling :D

[sacred ruin]

fuck it

64 threads

[tiny garden]

...do you have 32 threads?

[sacred ruin]

like

2000

[tiny garden]

you should have it on 12

[sacred ruin]

i refuse

[tiny garden]

1 per logical core

[thorny robin]

Study on stream

[sacred ruin]

128 threads

[tiny garden]

i thought i started it on accident

i mean that can work

[sacred ruin]

256

[tiny garden]

there's no real limit to how many threads you spawn

[sacred ruin]

how many are you using

[tiny garden]

16

[sacred ruin]

weak lol

[tiny garden]

bruh

[sacred ruin]

uh

something is wrong

[tiny garden]

?

[sacred ruin]

its still at 12m

fuck they really use logical cores

depressing

[tiny garden]

using more is actively counterproductive lol

[sacred ruin]

whats FEEDBACK_WAIT_MS

[tiny garden]

you could try compiling for your exact cpu ig

how long it waits to print speeds

in ms

[sacred ruin]

why does it overflow

[tiny garden]

because the default stack limit per thread is 1mB

you could probably up it

these lines probably do it

[sacred ruin]

wheres that

[tiny garden]

in handle_aes_crack

you could probably change let subranges = range.array_chunks::<FEEDBACK_CHUNK_SIZE>(); to something more like let subranges = range.into_iter().chunks(FEEDBACK_CHUNK_SIZE).collect::<Vec<_>>();

[sacred ruin]

i dont have that line

[tiny garden]

its literally the first line in the function

[sacred ruin]

oh im blind

how high can the number go

[tiny garden]

if you do this, probably just has to be less than 1 trillion / no. of threads

[graceful mulch]

@tiny garden has leveled up! (8 ➜ 9)

[sacred ruin]

gahh

if only i understood rust

[tiny garden]

that's silly

you also typo'd line 331 but eh

not really gonna change the speed

[sacred ruin]

W F

25mil

[tiny garden]

what

did you set the number to something different

[sacred ruin]

maybe

:trol

[tiny garden]

if its isn't equal to the constant it will fuck up the rate calculation

[sacred ruin]

it went down

it was never at 25m

i lied!

[tiny garden]

crazy

[sacred ruin]

huh its not using 100% of the cpu

[tiny garden]

weird

[sacred ruin]

more threads

[tiny garden]

😰

[sacred ruin]

yeah the thread thing doesnt work

[tiny garden]

ok

[sacred ruin]

for fun

[tiny garden]

it has found nothing after 144bn numbers

[sacred ruin]

i put 2k threads

[tiny garden]

that would "work"

i think?

[grand snow]

Has anyone tried using the fibonacci sequence? there is a fibonacci spiral in the video.

[sacred ruin]

yes

my pc crashed

nevermind

its alive

barely

[wraith harbor]

[sacred ruin]

its saying 139m/s

[rose sparrow]

I've got a 32-core threadripper if you want to run a multi-threaded CPU workload

[tiny garden]

i doubt this would massively benefit, it would have to run for ages

[sacred ruin]

?

[tiny garden]

i mean i guess you could try if you want to run sketchy exes from strangers on the internet

(or you could build it yourself)

but idm really

[rose sparrow]

I trust my Hyper-V VM

[minor fiber]

139m/s so in 2h it's done no ?

[tiny garden]

i doubt it got 140m / s

[sacred ruin]

it didnt

[sacred ruin]

ok so

i will guide you thru the instalation

how many logical cores you have

[rose sparrow]

64

[tiny garden]

trolled

[sacred ruin]

go to the internet

install rustup

[tiny garden]

essentially you want the rust toolchain from https://www.rust-lang.org/learn/get-started

i might be able to put this somewhere neater

then git clone https://github.com/owobred/neuro-brute, and run cargo run --release in the root of the folder

you'll have to change the THREAD_COUNT in src/main.rs to however many logical cores you have

because im lazy and haven't setup dynamic parallelism checking

[rose sparrow]

👍

Need a minute to set things up

[tiny garden]

(one thing is, this program is just testing essentially random numbers - it might not even find anything)

yeah that's cool

[rose sparrow]

meh, I have this thing running idle day and night with pretty much no load, might as well have it do something

[tiny garden]

fair enough

[amber cargo]

has darkeew's brute force program begun yet?

[thorny robin]

Any clues?

[sacred ruin]

bred doing it

[tiny garden]

it's only at 16%

[sacred ruin]

its very good

[tiny garden]

it just hit 18m / second

i wonder how hard it is to do aes on the gpu

[clever lintel]

AES is sequential, right?

[tiny garden]

yeah, but each work unit could be a single key

[pine atlas]

I am so sorry

[sacred ruin]

what if i dmed him that

[ebon shale]

do it and see what he says

[wraith harbor]

just tell him to check starboard

[rose sparrow]

@tiny garden @sacred ruin

[sacred ruin]

WA

[tiny garden]

damn

[sacred ruin]

very nice

[tiny garden]

have fun lol

[rose sparrow]

100% CPU usage, so no problem with utilization

[tiny garden]

neat

[minor fiber]

60mil /s ?

[sacred ruin]

yep

[minor fiber]

dang thats like 5h ez

[tiny garden]

I love rust for this kind of thing

[minor fiber]

x)

[rose sparrow]

only problem is that the CPU is now 95 degrees C 🔥 🧯

[minor fiber]

monka

[sacred ruin]

cook a steak

[rose sparrow]

I need a better cooling solution for this CPU than a noctua

[radiant walrus]

just add liquid nitrogen

[tiny garden]

I wrote a bogosort that did 2.5bn swaps / second

[rose sparrow]

It reached 7.5% in about 20 minutes, so yeah 5 hours is realistic

[tiny garden]

holy fuck

[minor fiber]

yup

because at 140m/s it was 2h

[rose sparrow]

@tiny garden I can see the search space is numbers starting with 17 and ending with 24, but what's the success condition?

Whether it decodes to UTF-8?

[minor fiber]

theory is it might be an url to an unlisted video

or url to a website with .xyz

[tiny garden]

yeah

we don't even know if these are the correct numbers or if this is even aes at this stage

[rose sparrow]

Yeah, I'm not getting my hopes up

[graceful mulch]

@rose sparrow has leveled up! (3 ➜ 4)

[rose sparrow]

I am getting my level up tho

[tiny garden]

frfr

[wraith harbor]

with triple DES I got a lot of repeating characters from some of the keys I tried

i.e. 8888888888888888888888888888888888[non-ascii bytes]

[tiny garden]

idk how triple DES works

[wraith harbor]

I don't think its significant though

[rose sparrow]

@tiny garden Will it stop when it reached something that decodes as UTF-8 or will it keep going?

[minor fiber]

also there might be missing the range 1700000000000024 to 1709999999999924 ?

[tiny garden]

it will keep going

it will store the keys that resulted in some valid utf-8 in the crack_keys.txt file and in the logs

its only checking the first 64 bytes or so, because it was way slower if it did the whole thing - might be false positives

[minor fiber]

your code pick a number at random so if its 1 will it be 17124 or 1700000000000124

[tiny garden]

this just goes through everything that starts with 17, ends with 24 and is 16 chars long

[minor fiber]

okay nice

[tiny garden]

i could probably make the key generation way more efficient but i'd have to do a bunch of refactoring

[minor fiber]

if it works it works thats programming

[rose sparrow]

I mean for an ARG a brute force attempt that only takes a few hours is nothing 😛

[wraith harbor]

at least its not 24 days lmao

[tiny garden]

i might try and brute force for pngs or something

my poor laptop lmao

also lol i think virustotal might also be running this because i uploaded the file

oh nevermind it exited

ok jesus christ like 90% of the time loop is allocating memory

[robust scaffold]

idk about rust but (if its realocation for the key that take time) can't you reuse the same array ?

[tiny garden]

its more to create the string

which is kinda like really bloody annoying

[robust scaffold]

oh yeah

[rose sparrow]

oh btw another fun thing about this PC is that it has error-correcting ram, so reduces the chance of a random error causing an attempt to fail

[tiny garden]

neat

[robust scaffold]

nice

[tiny garden]

whoops

[random drift]

so we have 5 hours?

[clever lintel]

Should've downloaded more ram

[tiny garden]

i have now realised i attempted to collect 1 trillion numbers in a vec

[clever lintel]

that'll do it

[rose sparrow]

nah, the brute force attempt is very unlikely to succeed, too many assumptions we're not confident in yet

[radiant walrus]

skill issue

[random drift]

well we have no other option

if it doesn't work and there's no breakthrough, the ARG will end here lol

[tiny garden]

unlikely

[rose sparrow]

Nah, we just need to acquire bigger brain

[radiant walrus]

or we have to wait

[tiny garden]

there's a bunch of pretty dedicated people

[hasty vale]

considering a new "clue" was given just before dev stream likely there are more clues to give out

[rose sparrow]

What was the new clue? Was it the Jebaited one?

[tiny garden]

hmm yes vscode debugger please expand this list of one hundred thousand numbers

[hasty vale]

the princess is in another castle one

[tiny garden]

great im overflowing stacks

[minor fiber]

this one was just a troll red herring

[hasty vale]

red herrings sometimes turn out to be fake outs

[wraith harbor]

I like how Rider/intelliJ expands lists in sections of 100, but it also gets really annoying really fast when you want to see more than 100 elements at a time

[tiny garden]

rust has no issues with multithreaded panics whatsoever

i mean some of this is me being bad again

[scenic karma]

Honestly the best trail i have at the moment is that 17 and 24 may not be present, if i work with Fibonacci.

I worked some numbers out, but most of them are between 20-25 digits long

[rose sparrow]

If your answer is too long for AES, you can try it with XOR, it allows any key length: https://gchq.github.io/CyberChef/#recipe=From_Base64('A-Za-z0-9%2B/%3D',false,true)XOR({'option':'UTF8','string':'572943'},'Standard',false)To_Hexdump(16,false,false,false)&input=RFE1emw0aWdoV3dpYWc3eStjV0ZRZz09

[graceful mulch]

You have unlocked new role

[scenic karma]

Thank you, will push my numbers through this again

[rose sparrow]

also I'm beginning to think that "matching all the letters" means we need to turn any number we come up into letters before using it as a key 🤔

[limpid swift]

I agree

[tiny garden]

maybe

oh for fuck's sake im overflowing the stack again

small problem, nothing big :)

[limpid swift]

:3

[tiny garden]

i love optimisation

[robust scaffold]

x1.5 nice

[keen tartan]

huh, just thought of a new wild goose idea

for
//Matching all the letters

Rather than matching numbers to letter like A = 1, B = 2.

Match the numbers to the letters on keyboard perhaps?

5 to T/G/B
7 to U/J/M
2 to W/S/X
9 to O/L
4 to R/F/V
3 to E/D/C

[tiny garden]

i need to find a different aes lib

almost certainly

this one has a really fucking annoying api

[minor charm]

what have you guys found until now?

[robust scaffold]

rust is fast

[sacred ruin]

very fast

[tiny garden]

ok checking for pngs might be a bit easier

[robust scaffold]

if I do not make I joke: we are stuck
see #1112401279680008242 message to see what we found (we made close to no progress since then)
you can also find the google drive in pins for more information (especially informations about the study video)

[spring widget]

hi im back

progress?

[minor charm]

Are you guys also using the gdrive that the ones on the other discussion chat are?

[spring widget]

yeah

[minor fiber]

bred as made super brute force code that only take a few hours

[spring widget]

wish we had something more than brute force

vedal

[minor fiber]

Vices is running it with super powerful pc

[tiny garden]

has the base64 from the messages js thing actually been used as a key yet for the numbers desc?

[thorny robin]

He's only trolling for now

[minor fiber]

nah but do we really want to mix both videos ?

[keen tartan]

a new user @obtuse whale entered general chat and put down two message along with some stuff in her bio
Could be a troll
Wanna take a look at it?

[minor fiber]

let the other thread shizo on that xD

[spring widget]

account made on the 25th

wtf

thats before the debut

[minor charm]

Ok, I'm reading everything, but I am already over ideas, no Base64 Decryption on the net is giving me anything.

We could also add the redebut date as part of something as it was also on the 27 of may right?

[spring widget]

[clever lintel]

oh god, you're busting out the flame graphs

[spring widget]

hold on

[minor fiber]

account rename exist

[spring widget]

lemme take a dig

[clever lintel]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uDVQQk-YkwEpyl3b-ir4k5w_JKIEmcrZdi-M15pI0aI/edit#

[tiny garden]

because it's the right size for an aes key

[minor fiber]

they really added this to the drive

[tiny garden]

I would test this myself but I need to sleep

[spring widget]

leave no stone unturned

[spring widget]

we've tried it a few times

yes

[keen tartan]

we literally have to question everything
Trying to brush it off as a troll hurt more than dig into what those text means

[spring widget]

this fact is documented in the google doc for numbers

[minor fiber]

we already got trolled by the enigma stuff someone probably joined with an alt to troll even more

[tiny garden]

I assume there's nothing of value

I didn't find it anywhere

[tiny garden]

ah

nini guys

[spring widget]

nini bred

[scenic karma]

Working on this currently. But i started to think that there are more things missing.

[limpid swift]

Is anyone here really good at maths

Within a string of numbers, how do we work out every combination of adjacent numbers that equal less than 26

if my number is 1114442223333
Potential splits could be:

11 14 4 4 22 23 3 3 3

1 11 4 4 4 22 23 3 3 3

1 1 14 4 4 2 2 23 3 3 3

Is there an equation for this

[robust scaffold]

maybe not but easy done with a small code

[limpid swift]

Yeah I'm workign with Python

[minor fiber]

still no official caption on any videos

[uncut hare]

it will never exist

[minor charm]

This was made by ChatGPT and just slightly altered by me, apparently he did not understand what adjacent numbers were
If you just want the count then you can print, or get the len of the array

def find_combinations(string):
    combinations = []
    split_numbers(string, [], combinations)
    return combinations

def split_numbers(string, current_combination, combinations):
    if not string:
        combinations.append(current_combination)
        return

    for i in range(1, min(3, len(string)) + 1):
        number = int(string[:i])
        if number < 26:
            split_numbers(string[i:], current_combination + [number], combinations)

# Example usage
number_string = "1114442223333"
result = find_combinations(number_string)
for res in result: 
    print(res)

Seem's to work

Yeah, using AI to solve easy shit, I'm still a student so fine. haha

[limpid swift]

cool thanks

[hasty vale]

sick return statement that returns literally nothing and a function that returns an empty list

[graceful mulch]

@hasty vale has leveled up! (2 ➜ 3)

[uncut hare]

why empty list

[minor charm]

It's recursive. Arrays may be changed inside functions because you're passing a "pointer" to the values.
The first return is shitty tho, but otherwise it would fall down to the if

[limpid swift]

huh

find_combinations actually doesn't seem to do anything except call the other function

[minor charm]

yeah, that and holding combinations array lol

[limpid swift]

This is what I call optimising

[minor charm]

the thing is you can't hold the combinations array inside split_numbers

[limpid swift]

Right I see

[minor charm]

so you can only hold it outside (Would go against functional programming because data shouldn't be mutable)

Or make another namespace that works as a black box

[limpid swift]

It's ok it can just return the combinations and append it when it calls itself

Either way the actual hard part is done for me so that's good

[minor charm]

you could also do a non-recursive function and just iterate the string, more lines, but faster

[limpid swift]

ok

[spring widget]

functional programming

evolve to oop

[minor charm]

I love LISP so yeah, fp is better

[spring widget]

:o

[limpid swift]

I tried to learn C# ok

I got lost in the 10,000,000 different serialisations

[spring widget]

java

java would be perfect if it had operator overloads

[minor charm]

In LISP however, there is no way to do this non-recursive
As everything in LISP is either a function, list or primitive

[spring widget]

lisp sounds like racket

[minor charm]

There is no other data structures lol

[limpid swift]

I am naturally predisposed to hate Oracle and their products

[spring widget]

had to do a course in racket and it was agonizing

[spring widget]

openjdk is open source and free

[limpid swift]

It's too late

The damage is done

[uncut hare]

java

[limpid swift]

12 billion devices run Java

[spring widget]

java

[minor fiber]

Kotlin > Java

[spring widget]

kotlin might be better tbh

dont know enough about it to give an opinion

[minor charm]

Like this simple Ackermmann function I made when I was 17 I think

(defun Ack_func (m n)
  (cond ((= m 0) (+ n 1))
        ((and (> m 0) (= n 0)) (Ack_func (- m 1) 1))
        ((and (> m 0) (> n 0)) (Ack_func (- m 1) (Ack_func m (- n 1))))
        ))

[minor fiber]

it's literally Java remade better

[spring widget]

just like how c++ is literally c but with bloatware

[minor fiber]

xD

[spring widget]

ok seriously c++ is horrible

[minor fiber]

like python is just C

[spring widget]

they just kept stapling things on

and now its a dumpster fire

like in no sane reality does someone set a function = 0

[minor charm]

The less bloated language is Brainfuck lol

[spring widget]

brainfuck

least bloated language in exchange for most bloated code

[minor charm]

Exactly

[limpid swift]

The C/C++ bellcurve

[minor charm]

Perfectly balanced

[spring widget]

c++ only came around because people kept using c wrong

but nobody knows how c++ works anyway

so it didnt accomplish anything

[minor charm]

Safe Pointers aren't really safe

I just go to C when they fail me

(Yes, I want to access memory that i used malloc to allocate fuck)

Ok, enough talk, back to investigating

[keen tartan]

java (when I have to write the codes on a piece of a paper on final exam)

[minor charm]

In FP sometimes you have to define a function just to pass a data type to it and apply some operation in it.
Because as data should not mutate then the easiest workaround is passing it as a copy

[robust scaffold]

just asking, how many solutions did you get from this ?

[keen tartan]

anyway
Im gonna go back to chase the wild goose that is the //Matching all the letters// actually means lines up the number to your letter on keyboard

[minor charm]

let me print len and get back to ya, I used nano to do this so I have to open my wsl again

[robust scaffold]

oh sorry to make you rerun

[minor charm]

It's fine, I don't like using windows any way lol

[robust scaffold]

based

[minor charm]

25 apparently, now, I have no idea if this is correct or not. I would need to make 13C2 - Combinations that include numbers higher than 26
And I'm too sleepy to do math

[robust scaffold]

strange, from my code I have 15

[minor charm]

actually not even 13C2 as it's only the adjacent ones

[robust scaffold]

what 13C2 mean, sorry

[minor charm]

Combinations of Two in 13 basically.
Not exactly something of use in this

[robust scaffold]

ok thank !

[minor charm]

how did it gave you 15?

[robust scaffold]

idk

i test my code

to see if I did something wrong

for reference:

def split(stringofint,maxval):
    index = len(stringofint)-2
    now = [[stringofint[-1]]]
    while index >= 0:
        val = stringofint[index]
        new = []
        for result in now:
            if(int(val+result[0]) < maxval):
                newresult = result.copy()
                newresult[0]=val+newresult[0]
                new.append(newresult)
            result.insert(0,val)
            new.append(result)
        index-=1
        now = new
    return now
def splitGetInt(entry, maxval):
    return [list(map(int,listresult)) for listresult in split(str(entry),maxval)]

result = splitGetInt(1114442223333,26)
for res in result:
    print(res)
print(len(result))

[minor charm]

wait, maybe you could be right if you have [4, 2] do you want 24 as a valid combination?

[robust scaffold]

idk what do you mean. I'm bad with english sorry ! but I found the error in my code

[minor charm]

what languages do you speak?

[robust scaffold]

french

I found 25 with my fix

so it's good

sorry for taking your time

[minor charm]

yeah, didn't learn french. My primary language is also a sucessor from latin though
Also good job making this non-recursive, tends to be faster even if more difficult to read.

[robust scaffold]

maybe faster yeah
but my bad variable naming probably help it to be unreadable

[minor charm]

believe me, I just started working this year, I had to spend a full day reading some lines to understand them

you don't write bad comparatively

[robust scaffold]

i edited my code: fixed it and rename max

[robust scaffold]

thank a lot !

[minor charm]

oh, right max is a function, completely forgot that

[robust scaffold]

using a bad ide it did not underline max as being an native function x)

[minor charm]

Hope you never know the suffering that is programming in a terminal, on a machine that is far away from you, because legacy coders didn't set a git repository and no one got around to do it.

Well, I'm gonna go back to see if I get any more clues from the numbers video and then sleep

[robust scaffold]

good luck and good sleep !

[minor charm]

If I can even sleep with the amount of caffeine I took lol
You'll know in 30 minutes if I slept haha

[rose sparrow]

brute force attempt is 80% complete, no hits yet it seems like

[minor charm]

good luck, any estimate of time?

[minor fiber]

probably an 1h left ?

[rose sparrow]

yeah a little less than an hour left

[minor fiber]

so if no result that means we can rule out aes right ?

[rose sparrow]

No, we can rule out a 128-bit AES key of all numbers that starts with 17 and ends with 24 that results in utf-8 text

It's a very narrow conclusion

[robust scaffold]

and only using the numbers as ASCII representation of them from what I read of the code

[rose sparrow]

yeah, but a 16-digit number is not big enough for a 128-bit key if you don't use ASCII and 16 digits is the only number we get close to

[robust scaffold]

(probably not that but) we may consider digits as bytes so 16 digits = 16 bytes (and 0 = 0(byte) not 48 (byte) like ASCII representation )

[hasty vale]

digits cant be bits, bits are binary

[minor charm]

he said bytes, he could be right as each character is 1 byte but I very much doubt it

[hasty vale]

ah, i misunderstood what they were trying to say

[minor charm]

It's fine, I'm misunderstanding even my own mind now

[dense hill]

Did someone check if it is one considered byte number?
Maybe it changed from 16 to 8 or 32

[wispy coyote]

.

[rose sparrow]

@tiny garden brute force attempt finished, no hits unfortunately

[scarlet quiver]

it's joever....

[rose sparrow]

It was a very narrow brute force attempt though, but at least it's some progress

[minor fiber]

yea also i don't know if the code used was using AES with padding or not

[robust scaffold]

we simply don't know if the code use AES

[kindred parrot]

Guys i need to say this before i forget, thought of it while i was a at work and just got home:
the enigma code that was decoded might mean were are on the right track...

[keen tartan]

elaborate

[kindred parrot]

you mean like this whole thing

[keen tartan]

no, like why does it might mean we we are on the right track

[kindred parrot]

oh

bc in mario you do that before going to the next level

[wraith harbor]

I personally put the enigma code in the same bucket as the Jebaited QR

[kindred parrot]

sadge ok

[wraith harbor]

though I wouldn't 100% rule it out

[kindred parrot]

fair, it was just an idea

[wraith harbor]

yeah, make sure not to forget about it

[kindred parrot]

that maybe it wasn't meaningless and it was just saying "don't give up"

[rose sparrow]

I don't think that really matters, if there's padding and we decrypted it without accounting for the padding it would just result in a bit of garbage at the end

[night galleon]

Bruteforce won't work against AES

is impossible

[rose sparrow]

It is possible, but you have to make some assumptions to limit the search space

[night galleon]

Bro

AES is also Quantum resistant

and yes it doesn't work with quantum computing because it unbreakable with current technologies

[rose sparrow]

any encryption can be brute forced if you know enough information about the key, for example if you know that the key starts with "passwording" and ends with 5 digits then you only have to make 100000 attempts

that's what I mean with limiting the search space

[night galleon]

that might work

but who know

but why 100k attempt?

[rose sparrow]

5 digits means there are 10 different symbols (0 through 9) and there are 5 places, so the number of different combinations is 10^5 = 100k

[heavy tangle]

I have a server with 2xE5-2683v4. If you need this processing power, I can provide it to you

[night galleon]

holy W

@sacred ruin

look at this

[rose sparrow]

I already ran a brute force attempt on a 32-core thread ripper 3970X, but we definitely need all the processing power we can get if we're going to make a more serious brute force attempt

[pale fossil]

guys did you guys tried doing the orders

with the huge hash that is in the description

[sage terrace]

ay i just got here... this looks really really intricate

😭

remember to hydrate, guys

[keen tartan]

you mean to follow the instruction in the lyrics with do it with the hash?

[pale fossil]

yes

[keen tartan]

hmm

I personally havent tried it nor see anybody mention anything about it

[pale fossil]

hmmm ill try doing this then

but then the instructions still are dubious on what to do with it

[rose sparrow]

the problem with that is that making small changes to base64 like changing a few characters is only going to change the decoded data in that place. So if that were the solution then parts of the decoded data should already make some sense

especially if it is supposed to decode to text, then we should already be seeing some words

[keen tartan]

|Counting all the days, it’s been so damn long
|Finding all these numbers
|Start with number 2 yeah

If we are to count the days between Neuro sama first debut and to the release of the video, it could be 129/130.
After the first 130 characters of the hash, we arrive at a 2

[pale fossil]

wait really

[heavy tangle]

I had already thought about it, but I still don't know what to do.

[keen tartan]

Col 130 means where my mouse is position at, so if I remove the mouse, the 2 should be at 129 or 130 position

|Matching all the letters
|572943

Could mean we find the following numbers

or find the converted letters form

[pale fossil]

yeah

we can try both

[heavy tangle]

If you take 5 instead of the number 4 in the text, then 5 is much closer than 4.

[heavy tangle]

I think its a 5.

[keen tartan]

not this again

[heavy tangle]

OK

[pale fossil]

oh my god

[pulsar maple]

[keen tartan]

[heavy tangle]

Jk

[pale fossil]

so do we ignore the before ?

[keen tartan]

no I don't mind, its just so tiresome

[pale fossil]

and make the 130 the start ?

[keen tartan]

idk

[pale fossil]

yeah fuck

[pale fossil]

well ill go with that

[pale fossil]

maybe we are finally on something?

hope so

fuck

or is all a coincidence

[keen tartan]

could be

I originally tracked my lead down to a vod on Jan 28th because of two coincidence

hmmm, still the main problem is that we don't exact know what does the lyrics means

but I believe this is an actual good lead to follow

[cobalt comet]

wonder if the Fibonacci curve from the vid has anything to do with this

[keen tartan]

we looked into it

[scenic karma]

Well i already tried working on it

[keen tartan]

but feel free

[pale fossil]

i saw a good one saying to change the number to the number in the sequence

[graceful mulch]

You have unlocked new role

[pale fossil]

so 17 is the 17 index in the fibo

[uncut hare]

You have unlocked new role

[pale fossil]

Promoted

[scenic karma]

Meaning out of :

Add another 6 yeah
Flip the numbers backwards
Make the 2 a 3 yeah
Abcdefg
Multiply by 9 yeah
Add the numbers 2 4
17 is first yeah
Abcdefg

becomes

Add another 8 yeah
Flip the numbers backwards
Make the 1 a 2 yeah
Abcdefg
Multiply by 34 yeah
Add the numbers 1 3
1597 is first yeah
Abcdefg

[pale fossil]

but only after the abcdefg

or when the thing start apearing

[keen tartan]

I still think explaining |abcdefg| as a function that ask you to conver to english letter is a better explaination

[scenic karma]

It appeared at the start of "Add another 6 yeah"

[pale fossil]

could be too

i thought of a function too

but not know what the function represents

[keen tartan]

cause turtle is a programmer after all

[pale fossil]

yes

but i still think the fibo has something to it

[keen tartan]

oh yea

[pale fossil]

i dont think is there just for display

so do both ?

fibo and change to letter ?

and if overflow go back to 0

until it not overflows

or other thing

[scenic karma]

I think fibo is important otherwise it wouldn't specifically appear in that time window

[pale fossil]

yeah its what i think too

[keen tartan]

anyway im off to bed, will be on tmr for further decode
Do believe what we discovered here is a good lead

[pale fossil]

yeah

im going to do a bit and leave too

too late for now

[sage terrace]

has anyone examined the music theory or audio production of the songs yet

[pale fossil]

ohh ytue

let me see that

[cobalt comet]

spectograph time

[heavy tangle]

gl

[pale fossil]

well read all that