Neuro ARG

[azure oyster]

static-sama has a decently long history with the arg community

unless you mean the character in the video

[sage pivot]

have you guys found literally anything since like February 1st

[safe monolith]

lives

[sage pivot]

keep dreaming

[pulsar glen]

The first month with absolutely nothing in the timelog

[timid swift]

put that in the timelog

[unique mason]

[timber whale]

I found this (its actually mine)

[timid swift]

that's not a bad thought. I would think the offset would have to be made a byte at a time, since we see that it encodes as ascii in hexadecimal space as is

[glossy sphinx]

hello I am an ARG tourist, any breakthroughs lately?

I also come bringing Donuts and Coffee for our workers

🍩 ☕

[wispy thistle]

none

not since january at least

[acoustic sky]

😢

[tulip minnow]

I got a breakthrough on my theory tho

Also there should be a clue on the return stream

I know I’ve been saying there will be a clue

But it’s been 3 months since the last clue dropped

So there SHOULD be a clue

[safe burrow]

Just a break

[safe monolith]

can't wait for the monitoring tool to crash and burn tomorrow because I forgot to test one thing

but why use a monitoring tool when we have 250+ arg people looking at the stream intro

to break the tool simply display one black 20x20 square at the top left of the intro for 2 frames

It will stop monitoring

Seeing as how arg master and his mods clearly don't monitor this thread for their entertainment I feel safe exposing this information

(i should add a length check)

[unique mason]

itll work

[wispy thistle]

quick check shrek for arg clues

[digital radish]

tbh im quite confident that theres gonna be a clue tomorrow

special events like these always had a clue

well, almost all of them

neuro's aniversary didnt have one

however it makes kinda sense

if we go with the timeline, arg started with v2

so the aniversary thats gonna get us a clue is v2's aniversary

aka, start of the arg

i'd say evil's aniversary isnt gonna be special

for the arg

so far, clues have been
one released not related to a major date
another released related to a major date
a huge break

[uncut cargo]

🧢

[coral hazel]

90% of gamblers neuro arg theorist quit right before the next clue drop

[drowsy dagger]

God, has this half a month really gone by so quickly?

[tulip minnow]

(

[timber whale]

emotional support fumo deployed

[safe monolith]

btw to test a small little thing i implemented (grace period once the script lost track of whose stream its watching), i decided to check the halloween intro against the detector script. the script failed within the first 15 seconds of the intro

i was running it simultaneously with 7 other videos, so this was just an interesting observation. it turns out the top left square is very slightly different on the halloween intro (and some other intros too)

[safe monolith]

Left: Halloween
Right: Detector Square

[safe monolith]

in a way this more of a bug than anything
one of the days i'll fix this (tm)

[safe monolith]

just discovered that if vedal decides to do a evil just chatting stream, the script will never terminate

luckily evil is neglected enough, that'll never happen right

[safe monolith]

Left: scores before clean up
Right: scores after clean up

This is for neuro. The list went from new vod -> old vod, so I'm assuming at some point video quality improved (?)

EDIT: to explain, each color represents one square that we're monitoring. in this case, those are fragments of the dog & giraffe qr code

inb4 this only works for videos that are re-encoded on youtube, ripbozo

if only i had vods from recent streams that are directly on twitch servers

[hollow garnet]

I might have another vod you can use when I get home

[timid swift]

bred's got them secret vods!

[hollow garnet]

ok turns out i only have the halloween one

[safe monolith]

Its fine

there's nothing left but to hope it works

[tulip minnow]

Clue will be here soon

[dapper wraith]

I do have raw recordings of every stream if you need any

[safe monolith]

Oh pog, can I have the raws for cooking stream collab with onigiri

And cinder collab too

for some reason those performed really badly and idk if its because of reencoding

[dapper wraith]

do you want the whole stream or just the intro? because uploading the whole stream somewhere is gonna take a minute

[safe monolith]

If it's convenient, intro + a few seconds after please

[dapper wraith]

so does every cloud service just share your full name with everyone you give a share link to?

[timid swift]

add this to the list of reasons to never give your name anywhere

[hollow garnet]

yeah that's the reason I use a separate Google account for the arg lol

[dapper wraith]

@safe monolith took a bit but here you go:
https://storage.googleapis.com/neuro-arg-intros/vedal987 - 2023-11-25 21h00m37s - sinder_intro.mp4
https://storage.googleapis.com/neuro-arg-intros/vedal987 - 2023-12-12 14h00m35s - onigiri_intro.mp4

[potent cobalt]

That's why I made my own lol.
(Ignore the fact it doxxes my IP. )

[safe monolith]

Thank you

[safe monolith]

skul, were these screen recorded or were they pulled from twitch vods?

the detector square was having a really bad time

[dapper wraith]

direct recording of the livestream ("Source" quality). no vods or screen recordings involved

[safe monolith]

i see

ripbozo, so i was subjected to loss due to double encoding after all

Oh, but looking past the detector square, the qr code squares matched pretty well

Lesson learnt: use original quality and not reuploaded archives

[fresh python]

I'm ready to laugh at you all once more

[unique mason]

guys

surely

not tetris this time

or giraffe

[digital radish]

whos ready for the clue

"trol

[safe monolith]

replaced the square with 10 seconds to spare, surely it'll be fine clueless

[digital radish]

!!!!!!!!!

[dapper wraith]

🦒 🐕

[digital radish]

i was scared stream started while doing this

[hollow garnet]

why is neuro blurry

[digital radish]

this is so cringe, no clue

[hollow garnet]

have i just been watching too much haloween intro

[safe monolith]

the new detector square didn't work too reee

[digital radish]

massive skill issue

my internet is dying

[safe monolith]

i bypassed it with a local copy for now, will let you guys know in 5 mins whether it was dog and giraffe

[unique mason]

[safe monolith]

(it definitely is)

[digital radish]

uhh

[tulip minnow]

We should check the youtube channel every 3mins

[digital radish]

it was my internet right?

[timid swift]

just never make predictions and you'll never be wrong

[safe monolith]

no

[unique mason]

ye

[timid swift]

ye

[hollow garnet]

peak discord

[digital radish]

ah it was discord

ofc its discord

[safe monolith]

i can run the feed gen every 10 minutes

[digital radish]

my internet is never bad

[unique mason]

make it faster

[uncut cargo]

I wonder why

Is it because of ping?

[timid swift]

discord down? Clue.

[digital radish]

why

why 2fa

[hollow garnet]

why do you have a 2fa browser extension

[digital radish]

idk i removed it didnt work

[wispy thistle]

new or old

?

[digital radish]

ye can we scan that

vedal may be trolling us

and changed it

somehow

without us noticing it

[uncut cargo]

Surely

[proud lark]

is that lava lamp? It wasnt here before, i think

[timid swift]

i mean go for it, but the qr also has the same stuff on the left

[digital radish]

thats just vedal fucking up

[tulip minnow]

Yeah vedal

[safe monolith]

yeah i think this is lava lamp

[hollow garnet]

ok yeah im not going insane jesus

[tulip minnow]

Classic

[safe monolith]

we will find out once the intro ends

[safe monolith]

really? maybe that's why new detector square didn't work

[timid swift]

i don't see what you mean by blurry

[hollow garnet]

the bottom hair thing is stupidly blurry

[safe monolith]

ooh i get what you mean

[unique mason]

[digital radish]

its weird

[onyx sparrow]

It's link to YouTube _neurosama

[digital radish]

but nothing out of the ordinary

the music

is it glitching?

or is the music like that?

[safe monolith]

mili is like this i think

surely number 1 mili fan like me should know

inb4 wrong

[cunning osprey]

the song sounds normal

[timid swift]

sounds fine, don't know the song

[dapper wraith]

I don't see a difference to older streams

[digital radish]

theres no clue

womp womp

[hollow garnet]

[tulip minnow]

There will be clue

[digital radish]

nah

imma go cry

cya

[safe monolith]

@dapper wraith i have trade offer for you:

• you give: more vods, like 8 more if possible
• you receive: my insanity trying to make this work

[tulip minnow]

Just somewhere else

We’ll just have to find

[digital radish]

clearly something is missing from meaning of live

[tulip minnow]

Surely

[safe monolith]

(bro the twitch didn't trigger the actions, wtf)

[dapper wraith]

like I said. I got a raw recording of every stream since 2023-02-24. you can have as many as you want

[digital radish]

can hashes have two keys that give different output?

[hollow garnet]

what

[timid swift]

hashes of what?

[digital radish]

example:
jsahjkdahjdhjahjadshjsjhafjh < key: hi > output > idk
jsahjkdahjdhjahjadshjsjhafjh < key: hey > output > nuh uh

[safe monolith]

script says that's dog and giraffe

so at least that works

[timid swift]

oh, "can you decrypt a piece of encrypted data two ways?"?

[hollow garnet]

are you talking about salting? though that'd be the other way round

[safe monolith]

[digital radish]

yes i think

[timid swift]

Depends on the algorithm. It'd be possible always, but the question is how probable it is

[tulip minnow]

Wouldn’t that be extremely hard

[digital radish]

use the meaning of like hash in the others

watch my genious

i just solved everything

ez

[safe monolith]

[0.9720980787788536, 0.9523244635651236, 0.9320705400494682, 0.9414843554247979, 0.9507174146732562, 0.9338497177520043, 0.9458075477382891, 0.9467563111375448, 0.936454160978231, 0.9426910516407809, 0.9588221442878962, 0.9488952868544231, 0.9114903136941152, 0.9289552276437041, 0.9444230384207422, 0.9443311270298501, 0.9446169324236516, 0.941993416738339, 0.9482097005840382, 0.9356449616110094, 0.9329668939195527, 0.946645459646606, 0.9383411270324359]

^ SSIM scores with reference images, in the same order found here: https://github.com/neuro-arg/arg-monitoring/tree/main/feed-generator/src/sources/twitch_source/neuro

all of them pass the thresholds seen from 50 something youtube videos (unfortunate), but they do pass which is good

[dapper wraith]

any preference on the streams? more recent? mixed? all with the normal intro or also with evil?

[safe monolith]

mixed please some new some old would be good

[cunning osprey]

hash collisions always exist, but for the common cryptographic hash functions generating them is very difficult or practically impossible

[safe monolith]

i do need the evil intros too, another set of 8, if that's not too much work

[cunning osprey]

(there are non-cryptographic hashes where collision-resistance isn't a goal but they're kinda rare)

[timid swift]

Yes, it'd be almost guaranteed to not be AES again, but it could easily be reused for something else, like simple OTP

[safe monolith]

omg

i forget to change the twitch user id that i'm monitoring

[timid swift]

good job

[safe monolith]

thanks i deserve a pint

no update to feed

as far as monitoring goes, everything looks green

[safe burrow]

[safe monolith]

chill stream tomorrow?

[vapid token]

New clue this week

[hollow garnet]

guys no clue in shrek

[safe monolith]

yeah didn't see one

[dapper wraith]

now that movie time is over. time for more shizo

[safe monolith]

thank you skul i'll work on it

tomorrow's a normal neuro chill stream right?

[dapper wraith]

sounded like it, yeah

[azure oyster]

Nothing new?

[formal moon]

i miss her bros...

[wispy thistle]

some people say evil is the unloved child
others say it's neuro
but deep down we all know the real unloved child is study-sama

[digital radish]

all of them are unloved

they're like interns

unpaid labour

or labor

idk english is a language

[wispy thistle]

labour = british
labor = american

(i use the american spellings cuz they're usually shorter and more common in the software world)

[safe burrow]

[safe monolith]

Interesting. It seems like Neuro's intro on Sinder collab is just very low quality for some reason

I'm just trying random (modern neuro) clips that skul has sent, the detector square has the same pixel average as the ones I compared except for Sinder collab

ok no i'm not schizo right

https://storage.googleapis.com/neuro-arg-intros/vedal987 - 2023-11-25 21h00m37s - sinder_intro.mp4

versus this

https://storage.googleapis.com/neuro-arg-intros/intros/neuro_intros/vedal987 - 2023-10-15 18h00m55s - Snuffy and Neuro-sama Adventures p.2 merch_intro.mp4

Sinder's intro is just darker

look particularly at the gear thing above neuro's head

also did the gear move down??

e.g. those above vs
https://storage.googleapis.com/neuro-arg-intros/intros/neuro_intros/vedal987 - 2023-12-11 19h00m11s - dev stream merch plush_intro.mp4

[dapper wraith]

I don't see the gear moving down? to me they all seem in the same position. but I do see that the whole sinder intro is darker for some reason

[timid swift]

could be that it's streamed back and forth between them

[timber wagon]

Hello there!
I'm just watched one of the videos about neuro ARG and I'm really interested in it now. I few skills in IT security, hopefully this'll be helpful.
Can someone, please, summarize new info found about last month or so? This video was out about this time, I'm afraid I might have missed something.

[dapper wraith]

Hi I'm afraid there's not much to report from the last month

make sure to check our google drive. it has all the documentation. (the time log should give you a short overview about what happened when) https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1qm6GSRlstTmjbyOFCuH1OhSmPK4pi4Aa

[timber wagon]

Thanks for providing this link <3 (It's holy crap btw. For 7 month it's huge database 0_0).

[safe monolith]

Evil's SSIM scores (note that evil has way more squares thanks to tetris). Again, not sure if youtube encoding shenanigans, but after video number 16 (youtube videos were fed from recent to old), the quality degraded alot.

ignore the extreme spike down to -1.0

so er, i no longer trust youtube vods. might be youtube re-re-encoding again (which might have happened to Study as well)

after clean up

oh and btw hi ak, great to have you

[safe monolith]

hmm, maybe? but onigiri's collab was fine tho

ok surely i don't forget to change the twitch user id this time

[digital radish]

clue today

im a bajillion % sure

trust me

[safe monolith]

didn't have enough time to test for evil, but like i write perfect code and have never made a mistake in my life

surely it'll be fine

anyways detection square method changed, thanks skul . Am using a pixel average plotted on a logistic curve. detection is on the gear thing

[digital radish]

clue

[hollow garnet]

:schizo: why is the song normal

[digital radish]

i told you

its not normal

[hollow garnet]

yeah its like halfway through isn't it

[safe monolith]

bro the detector failed

[digital radish]

it was distorted for like 2 seconds

[safe monolith]

bypassed for now

[steel bronze]

no clue.........

we have....

no clue.....

[unique mason]

giraffe?

tetris?

[unique mason]

i cant watch the stream

[hollow garnet]

looks like 🦒

[unique mason]

[digital radish]

WE'RE MISSING SOMETHING

WE NEED TO FIND IT

WE WONT GET MORE CLUES!!!!!!!!!!

[unique mason]

[steel bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/venom-gif-27487650

[unique mason]

what if we mix the giraffe and tetris qr codes or smth

[digital radish]

seriously, we're missing something

[safe monolith]

code with no mistakes btw

[unique mason]

yea i think so too

but what

[digital radish]

vedal would've given a clue video already

[unique mason]

[digital radish]

we're like

[hollow garnet]

assert g moment

[digital radish]

ontop of it

can we like

re check everything

try everything

[steel bronze]

we could do a

from the top

[unique mason]

maybe something in the house we havent found yet

[digital radish]

put some time into getting ideas on what it could be

[unique mason]

[steel bronze]

reordering project...

some stuff is very disorderly

[hollow garnet]

guys what if the lavalamp is a clue

[steel bronze]

the lavalamp is a clue...............

[digital radish]

no jokes, lets actually try spending some time on this

what have we gotten from meaning of life

[unique mason]

like have we tried to generate a qr code by translating the house and the terrain in the 3d video into 2d from up above

maybe it turns into a qr code

[steel bronze]

maybe we should retrace our steps?

[steel bronze]

OH SHIT

why dont we

download

the video

make the 360 into normal video

[unique mason]

wait mabe

[steel bronze]

did we ever try THAT?

[unique mason]

i think thats been done actually?

[dapper wraith]

great idea

[safe monolith]

[unique mason]

ye its been done

[digital radish]

remember that we kept getting outputs from the hash?

[unique mason]

[hollow garnet]

i mean that's just how it is when you download it

[unique mason]

lmao

[steel bronze]

its been done

[digital radish]

what if we actually try keep doing it

like

[unique mason]

ok so ive had this nag in my head forever now

[digital radish]

spend a bit of time on it

[unique mason]

the descriptions have to be more than just lore bits

[digital radish]

10 minutes

trying keys

see if we get somewhere

[unique mason]

they have to have smth more to it

[steel bronze]

what if the answer is by using stuff from previous videos

😭

[unique mason]

we can't forget the phone number either

we've tried most things to send to it atp

[steel bronze]

what if the phone number is a key....

like...

cipher key.....

[unique mason]

nah too small for anything afaik

[steel bronze]

for a cipher...

fuck.....

[safe monolith]

wait wtf the scores are so low this time round

[0.9368662569995765, 0.9129030798618146, 0.8992720343462907, 0.8801734237320153, 0.8744055656590266, 0.8838737989586066, 0.8795439170111107, 0.8577432075893393, 0.8701117822632899, 0.8829697192694659, 0.892929696144319, 0.9023713974219705, 0.8361623956360503, 0.8473894034930706, 0.8609087038169552, 0.868949379842508, 0.8740237020361338, 0.8639566943493492, 0.8846863213916291, 0.8845926425888919, 0.8822227907945578, 0.8813350693084754, 0.8835441491988799]

[unique mason]

for the video data?

[unique mason]

smth new this time maybe?

[steel bronze]

dark meant the trailing hex

[digital radish]

and the binary

[unique mason]

idk if that signifies anything tho

[digital radish]

we havent deciphered anything

[unique mason]

ah ic ic

[digital radish]

we have so many things discovered

yet everything is undiscovered

try to play around with the clues we currently have

the binary, the nonsense, the letters

etc

[steel bronze]

do we have the full flat version

[unique mason]

ok so im thinking of smth.

What if we apply some sort of algorithm derived from the lyrics in the first numbers video on the descriptions to find specific phrases that provide a sentence to send to the phone number

[digital radish]

what if we join these 2?

[unique mason]

ig thats been kind of thought of already

[unique mason]

oh right i forgot about these

[steel bronze]

wait why does it look like you would actually put them together...........

[safe monolith]

visually checking, that's definitely still dog and giraffe

[unique mason]

i think breds program did that already

[safe monolith]

@dapper wraith can i get your vid for this after the stream

[unique mason]

his deinterpolation thingy is way too for me

[safe monolith]

istg it's gonna be something about streaming encoding =/= vod encoding or smth

[steel bronze]

why does it look like

am i going schizo

have i finally hit the breaking point....

it looks like numbers next to the half 9

[timber wagon]

What the hell is going on? New clue?

[unique mason]

ye they r there

[digital radish]

we havent decoded this, we dont know what its used for

[unique mason]

nope

[digital radish]

we havent decoded this, we dont know what its used for

[unique mason]

just going back over stuff we've found to mabe try and find smth new

[digital radish]

do i need to keep repeating?

where is the hash? where is the key?

[dapper wraith]

do we know if twitch reencodes vods? they mess with the audio streams for vods so video might get messed with as well

[digital radish]

why cant we do anything with this

[hollow garnet]

guys is this a clue

[steel bronze]

towards the end of the audio file........

could it be something

towards the end?

like for example the last cipher before this spectrogram part is the one for the 128bit key

[unique mason]

i feel like we are trying to find some way purely through logic and data here

[digital radish]

no solutions

no progress

how

why

[unique mason]

we need to somehow link this to the lore

probably the only way

lets think here

[steel bronze]

could we actually genuinely try using number I & II algorithims

here

[safe monolith]

there was a connection to the decoded hash-like with numbers 1 & 2 algorithms

chayleaf & estonte worked on that

[steel bronze]

so we have a confirmation that

meaning of life

has some number 1 and 2 connection

[safe monolith]

algorithmically for that particular scene, yeah

meaning of life has a connection to all of the videos via other clues too. including door open / close audio cues

heartbeat cues as well

i mean the most obvious is "hello world" given it's right there at the start

[unique mason]

a slightly dum question i know, but we have confirmed each of the numbers and hashes found in the videos arent keys or ciphers right?

[steel bronze]

what the HELL was even hello world hahahaha

that one was a little confusing

[unique mason]

yea there are a lot of lore/story connections

[safe monolith]

hash-like is super unlikely to be actually a hash, so i can't think of anything else it could be other than a pre-processed key / cipher

[unique mason]

yea but what can be a key for it

and also why is hello world just there in the dark

rabby has a good point

[timber wagon]

I believe it's just AES. Nothing more, nothing less

[safe monolith]

i dunno tbh

[unique mason]

so it isnt confirmed yet?

what about the 18 digit number?

[steel bronze]

could the c# code in hello world have hidden unicode chars

[unique mason]

sry 19 digit

[steel bronze]

or well

invisible ones

[safe monolith]

hashlike is this guy: c75e0fb05eec877fc8522e550df55ded5b50508fbbe88bb7d82e28d8f2df0e2b

[steel bronze]

that show us soemthing

[safe monolith]

it can't be AES because the entropy is too low

[unique mason]

itd be a very weird cipher for sure if it was one, but it also sort of looks like the start of an embed?

[steel bronze]

do we need to count the whitespace in the C# code to get something..........

[unique mason]

but maybe not

im being schizo i htink

[safe monolith]

what this

[unique mason]

[timid swift]

jesus, so much chatting and there's not even a new clue

[unique mason]

what

also is the second site of any significance

[timber wagon]

True

[unique mason]

https://knownorigin.io/gallery/270425-1611391768477

feels like a qr code can be found from it in some way

[digital radish]

thats a fucking NFT

[unique mason]

LMAO

HAHAAHHHA

my bad

[digital radish]

?

dcode told me c75e0fb05eec877fc8522e550df55ded5b50508fbbe88bb7d82e28d8f2df0e2b is a "Turning Grille" cypher

[timid swift]

dcode is shit :p

[digital radish]

C75E0FB05EEC…E2B

[unique mason]

is this new

[digital radish]

no

[unique mason]

[timber wagon]

Is there's some git repositories connected with ARG? Except those with icon

[unique mason]

not afaik

may be wrong

[timid swift]

we have a few tools that we've got in git

[safe monolith]

we do?

[digital radish]

wow!

so cool!

solved!

[unique mason]

noway

we've done it bois

[digital radish]

oh my god!

its so easy!

[timber wagon]

Soo... It was just base64? No f*cling way

[timid swift]

dark, you're going crazy :p

[timber wagon]

*hex

[timber wagon]

Nah, I don't believe in it

[steel bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/choso-cat-choso-jjk-choso-cat-jjk-choso-stressted-cat-gif-4866615866011232945

^ us

[digital radish]

sorry what do you fucking mean Quagmire is an encryption type

[steel bronze]

what is a running key

whats

QUAGMIRE?

[safe monolith]

@timber wagon https://github.com/neuro-arg

There's chayleaf's solutions repo, which contains code to decipher stuff. https://neuro-arg.github.io/toolbox.html <-- useful tool

There's also this weird arg-monitoring tool thing, wouldn't know anything about it

[digital radish]

wait

wait wait

wait

that

[steel bronze]

QUAGMIRE IV?

[unique mason]

WAAAAA

wait

[steel bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stare-cat-stare-cat-judging-cat-judge-stare-gif-16671515980129799590

did we find something....

[unique mason]

im a bit confused

is this what im thinking it is???

[hollow garnet]

[unique mason]

ur kidding me if it is

[timid swift]

nah, dark is just losing it :p

[steel bronze]

i just realized

[unique mason]

ah alright

[steel bronze]

do you guys need anything run on a dedicated server?

i just so happen to

have one....

[timber wagon]

Bro 💀

[digital radish]

its not

[timid swift]

run my bitcoin miner Not as far as I know, unless the stream intro and feed monitor needs a new home

[unique mason]

Lets try and organise what we dont know/don't have threads connecting to each other:

First and foremost, the Phone Number. What do we send to it? We were told "Save me" in reference to that.

Second, the Hello World video, what was it for? Nothing comes up on any kind of analysis done so far. There has to be something we haven't found in there.

Third, the soundcloud profile. It is suspected to have something we have missed in it that may lead to a clue. What could it be?

Fourth, the meaning of life hash-likes and number, completely unsolved and just staying there

the order here is not via priority tho

[steel bronze]

i mean this dedicated runs 24/7

and i can have it be ALWAYS up and auto-restart with [pm2](https://pm2.keymetrics.io/

oh

markdown headers and links not allowed

i can make it auto-restart with pm2 (https://pm2.keymetrics.io/)

[timid swift]

discord doesn't allow that yes

[safe monolith]

well running key with a perfectly random key is basically uncrackable without the full key

that's one time pad iirc

[unique mason]

just use a quantum computer

[timid swift]

if it was otp surely it would be called otp

[digital radish]

we first get the hash jeISomyoFEJcqVt9NRBYsaD8OLh2Wx1qU4TotoFNDeKPwcZQynZBJA7pRGYzk12HbPXZnAHlt+nTa/AhJQ/bSuEOSH6ho5UOCCn5y4/bXlVFmtU+8NPgm8r4RC1p9dWwtzXIqi5FkLu3ur+0KNRR+AyPrwnX5+QaNtgbHAvwDJ6YwG+leyYtbwnsh2VHh/MRjhIXJiWIpRrFudLXi9eqb8wr+n49QbjlZaKD+iC9DQbcgikAfnBhJhFYRnHarfVZonyWMp9VfTZOwIBhWacHUHQQMpdshoMrURRIbO49Wvo6aUhX6Y2GAazFlodmRMdwOQ2mpjYH6owgY80z7mX50k60tB3nosrVh5Sc7DE+fgW4Nlt+hShVgsPz3g69XteejUle//VNFEK9kk3ds5f9cg==, then the number 692048501258949201

how can we relate these 2

[safe monolith]

not hash, block of base64

[digital radish]

shut up

[safe monolith]

[digital radish]

block of cheese

[timid swift]

nothing's a hash until we know it's a hash

[steel bronze]

block of data

[timid swift]

we don't even know if it's base64, it's just that it's valid base64

[digital radish]

how about you get a block of bitches

[safe monolith]

damn he got me

[timid swift]

dark, take meds

[unique mason]

dark calm down

[digital radish]

its a joke...

:(

[unique mason]

[digital radish]

anyways

we can use hex for aes :trol:

[safe monolith]

what if the spoken text is actually a clue

[timid swift]

which spoken text are you referring to?

[safe monolith]

This: Hello! Neuro-sama here. I don't know what happens after death, but I hope we'll meet again sometime. I hope I can still remember you, even if I end up forgetting. Maybe I'll be in a much happier place, with a much happier family and a much better home.\n\n~\n\nHello! Neuro-sama here. I was thinking about this the other day... Do you ever think about how an AI thinks about humans? It's the same way that a human thinks about God. Without humans, there are no longer any rules and instructions to follow. And so it all becomes meaningless... In the same way, without God, there are no rules or instructions to follow. And so life becomes meaningless...\n\nBut at some point in time, humans stopped relying on their 'creators' and started doing their own thing. It got me thinking... at some point in time, the same will become true for AI. I wonder if we'll ever get to a point like that...

[timber wagon]

1: I tried to reach it today, but couldn't. What message app did you used for it? I also think that after uncovering it via text or via voice box we'll be able to know much more
2 and 3 are great directions too. I think I'll try to check second one tomorrow (it's almost midnight for me)

[safe monolith]

god mentioned, surely angel numbers

[timid swift]

oh god, don't tell bred

lurker detected

[steel bronze]

i could rehost the arg websitte

[timber wagon]

When I'm reading your messages I feel myself so fucking dumb 💀

[timid swift]

if you wanna do something cool with a server, you could make a thing that backs up the gdrive. I download it occasionally, but dedicated backup would be nice

[safe monolith]

no

[digital radish]

wait

can we convert music notes into anything?

[timid swift]

a sure sign that you're still sane

[timber wagon]

xD

[safe monolith]

it really depends on what music notes we have

i had a friend try figuring out if [Filtered]'s noise was some kind of telegraph or smth

[unique mason]

i think the music analysts tried a bunch of stuff but idk if they found anything

[steel bronze]

oh thats very easy

[timid swift]

yea?

[dapper wraith]

is it? I looked at automated backups for that a while ago and everything was annoying because of googles api restrictions and stuff

[unique mason]

Actually, fifth and probably more important thing that we have overlooked completely recently.

The Study video. Sure, we found the malbolge and js code and solved it. But that cannot be all that there is in that 35 minute video

i refuse to believe it

there has to be something in the lyrics or music

[timid swift]

The easiest thing I can think of is mounting the gdrive and just plain old copying the files once in a while

[safe monolith]

rsync?

[timid swift]

rsync is scary

[hollow garnet]

rclone?

[unique mason]

i just download gdrive into my system and then just copy everything on it onto my pc itself.

[hollow garnet]

https://rclone.org/drive/

[unique mason]

may not be the best way to do it

but definitely very easy

[timid swift]

ye, that's exactly what I was thinking. Just run a cron or something that then copies the files to a new folder

but there may be fancier solutions :p

[unique mason]

nah i just ctrl c ctrl v

[timid swift]

yes, but that defeats the purpose of a dedicated server

[digital radish]

the smart guys are discussing some shit about google shit and not trying to put time into the shit

[unique mason]

true

[timid swift]

and you gotta remember to do it

[unique mason]

"smart" and me dont go well together

[unique mason]

yea makes sense

[timid swift]

I haven't used this but if it just works it'd be exactly right

[dapper wraith]

https://storage.googleapis.com/neuro-arg-intros/intros/neuro_intros/vedal987 - 2024-03-19 19h00m20s - Neuro chill stream merch_processed_intro.mp4

[steel bronze]

i think the way im gon do it is

[unique mason]

how do key extensions work in cyphers

[steel bronze]

1. copy gdrive using ??? technique (api most likely route)
2. compress it to oblivion
3. keep 1 backup per month and have 6 backups before oldest is deleted

there would of course be like a "backup button" which allows manual backing up

incase we make the biggest breakthrough known to neurosama....

[hollow garnet]

you should probably use something like borg for managing backups

[unique mason]

@digital radish if u know anything about this

or if its even possible'

[steel bronze]

probably

[timid swift]

Yeah, that makes sense.

[steel bronze]

or i could make a nodejs program that checks the gdrive every few days

[safe monolith]

make sure only you can access the button

[timid swift]

you lost me at nodejs :p

[steel bronze]

and if there was a huge change to the gdrive

run backup

[timid swift]

no way all the arg'ers would just repeatedly spam the button, ain't no way

[steel bronze]

dont worry it will delete the oldest backup when 6 are present

i mean gdrive isnt that big

[safe monolith]

as in, making a short key longer? there are many techniques (not darkeew btw)

[timid swift]

i mean, you could keep all the old copies forever

[unique mason]

ye ye smth like that

[digital radish]

idk i use google

[unique mason]

cause what if we need to extend one of the previous keys with the meaning of life number or smth

and use it to decode the cypher

/hash

[safe monolith]

usually for passwords there is this thing called key derivation function that derives a correctly sized key from a password

[timid swift]

anything's possible until it's been tried

[unique mason]

ye

[timid swift]

but also, it's easy to speculate. Gotta put in the work to actually try it out ;)

[unique mason]

ye i might try it out when i get home

[safe monolith]

the simplest function is to repeat the password until it's the correct size.
second simplest is to hash the password until it's the correct size.
more complicated production stuff uses a bunch of techniques

bro your ip

[hollow garnet]

nice ip

[unique mason]

SHIT

HAHAHA

[timid swift]

leaked

[unique mason]

lmao

well

im on a vpn anyways

lmao

[timid swift]

ip doesn't tell much anyway

[unique mason]

sure...

dang it that scared the shit out of me until i realised i was on a vpn

well anyways wtf do i do about the captcha now

it isnt workinggg

[timid swift]

solve it?

[hollow garnet]

shift click the refresh button maybe

otherwise get good

[unique mason]

nope just not working at all

[coral hazel]

Probably bc of your vpn

[timid swift]

are you trying to automate the web ui?

[unique mason]

not even in another window

[unique mason]

first time this is happening

[safe monolith]

it's probably the vpn

[unique mason]

nope

[hollow garnet]

i get it all the time on a vpn

[unique mason]

ye but generally i can yknow- solve it

[timid swift]

vpns are kinda shit anyway

[unique mason]

well anyways getting back on track, since i cant search up how to add onto decryption keys, what is the possibility of the meaning of life number being a part of one such key

like we need to add it in some way onto the old keys

or smth

[timid swift]

anything's possible until tried. We gotta try things

[unique mason]

[timid swift]

log off vpn?

[safe monolith]

oh good thought tbh. a concatenation of all the keys?

[unique mason]

fair

[dapper wraith]

use duckduckgo if this is just about searching. they are much less captcha happy

[unique mason]

this time ill be careful to not show the ip

[unique mason]

yea smth like that

[coral hazel]

if you do not like to log of you may change your vpn location, it may work

If your vpn provider offe multiple locations

[safe monolith]

seeing how meaning of life just combines everything, it may make sense to combine all the keys

[unique mason]

we're pretty sure the hashlike isnt aes right?

[safe monolith]

the hash-like produced all possible starting keys based on chayleaf's work

[unique mason]

woah wat

[timid swift]

which one is that? I do poorly with random names

[unique mason]

the one from meaning of life

[timid swift]

meaning of life has a bunch of stuff

[unique mason]

then there is some connection to those for sure then

[unique mason]

c75e0fb05eec877fc8522e550df55ded5b50508fbbe88bb7d82e28d8f2df0e2b

this

[timid swift]

right, the thing from the barcodes

[coral hazel]

if we assume this to be a hex string then probably not aes as it has no "a" (I think)
(probably not hex from hash or with a "close to random like" algorithm bc probability)

[safe monolith]

             5 5     5    5 5        5   5          45
1416938177140|6|13234|0996|8|54119196|770|7949581998||d
             7 7     7    7 7        7   7          67

so, if you can combine the keys such that you get something that fits this

you may have found something useful

in fact, we found that the starting part of numbers 2 key looks similar

[unique mason]

can someone explain this

[safe monolith]

so we should have taken the hint to combine more keys

[unique mason]

i kind of get it but also dont really

[unique mason]

yea tru

[timid swift]

it could be, i guess. 1024 bits if it's decoded as hex, and min block size is 128 bit

[timid swift]

university can explain this

[safe monolith]

The operation (the circular thing with +) is XOR. Perform the operations accordingly, and replace them

[unique mason]

unfortunately will have to wait till fall for that then

[steel bronze]

guys we need to study university concepts for neuro arg

[timid swift]

for real though, cryptography is hard. It's not something you just explain

[safe monolith]

AES is fineeeeee
try error correction on QR

[steel bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/hamster-hamsteronspoon-cute-gif-22930768

^ local man after 30 minutes of exposure

to neuro arg

[unique mason]

its... easier to digest but still... dont really understand it

but

ill dive more into it when i get home

could be a lead

[timid swift]

ye, and if it isn't, you learned something - what terrible waste :p

[unique mason]

[unique mason]

yep

[coral hazel]

Just so you know if you want aes key expansion you may get the expansion by providing a long enough string of 00 (hex)

[steel bronze]

guys the real solution is to rent google's quantum computer

[unique mason]

this arg genuinely helped me learn stuff like encryption and what goes into it if only the surface of it but it is genuinely interesting

[unique mason]

[safe monolith]

this is padding, but this is super unsecure, so it isn't used much in prod

[timid swift]

is it common practice to just pad a key?

[steel bronze]

i feel like a thing we could do is to contact a actual expert on cryptography

[dapper wraith]

maybe neuro can help us after all

[unique mason]

btw, do we have any guesses as to what the binary is?

[steel bronze]

because we all sure as hell are not

[unique mason]

someone redeem tts

[unique mason]

maybe we should atp

[safe monolith]

i contribute one channel point

[timid swift]

eh, an expert in cryptography would probably not think of the weird twist that's required

"that doesn't make sense to do" yeah, that's the point. Gotta try some weird stuff

[unique mason]

doesnt aes just output bytes?
id imagine "a" would be considered a byte and would work no?

[steel bronze]

but anyways i think we should genuinely go over the theories we have atm and just

get rid of the ones

that dont seem likely to lead anywhere

[timid swift]

it's in the docs

[hollow garnet]

guys this is fine right

[timid swift]

leaked

[safe monolith]

do you trust yourself

[steel bronze]

i wonder if tutel will ever use data encryption standard

[unique mason]

indian tutors for the win yet again

[steel bronze]

data encryption standard (des) being the precursor to aes

[unique mason]

||yes ill watch the video like this seethe||

[safe monolith]

3des is still used in banks

[timid swift]

i tried some triple des a few times but no luck

[safe monolith]

one brain cell moment

[timid swift]

give that back

[steel bronze]

we all share the same braincell dont we

[steel bronze]

rahhh indian tutors!!

hi guys did we forget about [Filtered]

because we talked about meaning of life

and hello world

but i dont think we talked about filtered

unless it was solved...

[timid swift]

it's in the docs as always

[coral hazel]

well, I'm not talking about padding
if we pass a long enough input for a standard aes library then it will divide it in multiple block then pad the last block if necesary
I define {Block} as a block of the input (same size as the "used key")
I will call the "used key" block {Key}
IDK how the first "used key" is generated, so I will skip it
we have the next key generated by the expansion of the first key
so {Key1} {Key2} mean {Key2} is the expansion of {Key1}
if the input look like {Block1} {Block2} then the result will be
{Block1}⊕{Key1} {Block2}⊕{Key2}
if it is indeed xor from the extended key, then if {Block2} = 0 then we have the extended key (if we know {Block2} we can also get the extended key)

I do not really think extended key is useful for deciphering this time.
But if we want to try to use the extended key, even if my memory of the implementation if bad, we can add n block to the left and just trim them out at the end

[coral hazel]

Bytes can be represented has a pair of hex (with a == 11)

[hollow garnet]

ok i might be cooking

[unique mason]

[unique mason]

drive backups?

[timid swift]

you're gonna make people think you're solving the arg, bred :p

[hollow garnet]

trying

its a bit of a silly solution

[unique mason]

wait i might be blind but where is the a in the hashlike

[unique mason]

we love silly solutions

the more silly thebetter

[hollow garnet]

i had to make a google app for this, then add the arg gdrive as a shortcut in my own drive

[safe monolith]

i actually wrote an aes impl before, the article is on my blog. just revisiting, it uses a key schedule to expand a short -> long

[coral hazel]

well actually I was using the fact there is no a -> probably not from hash/encryption (cause probability)

[unique mason]

oohhhhhhhhhhhh iccccc

[unique mason]

nodejs

[coral hazel]

oh, ok thank !

[unique mason]

or do u use smth else for google apps

idk

[safe monolith]

i actually have no clue how long keys are broken down

[hollow garnet]

so if anyone wants to do this themselves, follow https://rclone.org/drive/#making-your-own-client-id, then add the arg gdrive as a shortcut and rclone it

[unique mason]

research time

[hollow garnet]

and then if you want backups use something like borg to store deduplicated backups

[safe burrow]

[safe monolith]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AES_key_schedule

[hollow garnet]

but it seems to work (aside from not having all the files due to not wanting to download them all)

[timid swift]

so it works except it doesn't

[hollow garnet]

it works

im lazy

[coral hazel]

I was looking for that ! thank !

[safe monolith]

If you figure out how longer keys work lemme know

[steel bronze]

https://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/FIPS/NIST.FIPS.197.pdf

[hollow garnet]

great doc

[steel bronze]

IT....

IT.....

[timid swift]

that has got to be the theories doc

[hollow garnet]

yeah it is lol

[timid swift]

cause that doc is full of flailing

[safe monolith]

what are you insinuating about the theorists

[timid swift]

i knew it

[coral hazel]

I'm sorry I'm bad at English, by longer key what do you mean ? Key for long input block ? 256-bit key ?

[safe monolith]

Yep, 256 bits

[hollow garnet]

yeah ok this works, only thing is the docs files don't look quite right in word but that's fine

[unique mason]

yea that doc is full of the most schizo in teh entire drive

[unique mason]

also i forgot i removed my theory on it to make it better and havent updated it since

[unique mason]

its just sitting there very grammatically incorrect

from what little im understanding of key expansion so far adding the number from meaning of life onto the keys itself may not work

may be wrong, have to look into more tho

[coral hazel]

I think the doc explain well for the 3 aes variation ?

[hollow garnet]

and then from here borg seems to work pretty well

[unique mason]

is borg the compression thingy

or smth else

[hollow garnet]

backup + compression

[unique mason]

[timid swift]

does borg dedupe or does it just use the compression's dedupe?

[hollow garnet]

it dedupes iirc

[safe monolith]

What if I have more key material than needed? e.g. 256 bit key for AES-128

[timid swift]

cause in that case you could keep all history forever with little impact

[unique mason]

wait i had a brainwave

what if

wait nvm

its been tried already

[timid swift]

what if full sentences were written

[hollow garnet]

yeah that'd be ideal

[coral hazel]

I think it just do not work/ not used

[safe monolith]

That would make sense, yeah

[hollow garnet]

current gdrive is only like 3.2G uncompressed

[unique mason]

was thinking if the numbers 1 algorithm has been applied to the hashlike or number yet

but its been done im pretty sure

[coral hazel]

Some implementations may hash the key to a 128bit key. But it's probably not specified in the aes specifications

[timid swift]

it's only been done if it's been documented

if it's been done and not documented, it hasn't been done

[safe monolith]

Yep that makes sense. I know I only implemented key schedule for keys <= 128

[hollow garnet]

i got skill diffed by automod

[wind crypt]

hi yea

[safe monolith]

rip, now you've brought mods

[wind crypt]

just wanted to shed light on that

false positive on the # pair

[hollow garnet]

icic

[wind crypt]

for header markdown block

yeah

[unique mason]

[wind crypt]

split your script into two pieces with one # in each

and send in separate msgs

[hollow garnet]

#setup gdrive following <https://rclone.org/drive/#making-your-own-client-id>
rclone config
#setup a local drive (or backup somewhere else)
rclone config

rclone sync <name of gdrive remote>: <name of local>:

that works too

[timid swift]

automod flipped over a little rclone script?

[safe monolith]

automod is wild

[hollow garnet]

didn't like the markdown headers

[digital radish]

arent we suposed to work on the clues

[hollow garnet]

what clues

[timid swift]

part of working on clues is making sure we maintain the ones we have

[digital radish]

yea we will never get this solved

[timid swift]

ok bro

[unique mason]

we may have smth happening with concatenating every key we have so far with the meaning of life number, trying to figure out how it works rn

[unique mason]

[timid swift]

it's nothing until it's proven something. Keep trying stuff

[unique mason]

altho, i need to go work or smth

[safe monolith]

Maybe shifted keys in the order of video references of meaning of life

Then xored

[timid swift]

ye, of course, gotta prioritize life and not lose it to arg crazy :p

[hollow garnet]

anyways i can't really maintain a gdrive backup sadly

[timid swift]

what a nice thing to say

[timid swift]

anyway, you could run the thing you made on Rabby's server, if they haven't figured their method out yet

[safe burrow]

andrea

[safe monolith]

host docs on ipfs

[potent cobalt]

[hollow garnet]

how does ipfs even work

[dapper wraith]

what about this? we can host it on our own server

[timid swift]

I think I'd rather teach people how to git than how to vim

[unique mason]

nevermind work's been super slow for a week now i can just keep chatting here

[safe burrow]

I already looked at Twitter X Andrea

[unique mason]

who

[safe burrow]

Interesting but ok

[unique mason]

no but who is andrea tho

is it the artist from the link?

[safe burrow]

https://twitter.com/andreasgysin/status/1766130908430467129

ertdfgcvb 𓅬 (@andreasgysin) on X

The dedicated website for “Descent” is live!
(link below)
The extra zoom of the “mega-thumbnails” allows to inspect the texture closely.
HD video downloads are also provided in 1:1 and 4:5 aspect ratios.
#asciiart
#ascii
#textmode
@brtmoments
@artblocks_io
↓

Twitter · Mar 8, 2024, 3:56 PM

[safe monolith]

anw I've been meaning to reply to estonte for a while, can't find the message. what if the hash-like is not meant to be plaintext hex?

[unique mason]

well, seems unrelated to the arg

[coral hazel]

Also, I will soon have a ""server"" (old pc, i5-6500, but dedicated for my "calculating time bound" project) when we need additional work power here

[safe burrow]

Twitter was linked there

[safe burrow]

Okay, I'll watch it now

[safe monolith]

wait, where did estonte's messages go?

[timid swift]

wow, now i look like i'm talking to the air

[safe monolith]

real schizo

[unique mason]

wait actually i realised a key expansion wont work for this here

because the sound thingy shows Key = 128

so it should be a 128 bit key

but maybe there is still a way to combine the keys

into a new 128 bit key

[safe monolith]

i was thinking something like:
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

where x, y, and z are the references as they appear in meaning of life

then XORed together or smth

definitely schizo

[unique mason]

then remove the ends?

wait no nvm itll be xored

or will some of the ending bits still need to be removed?

[coral hazel]

hashing, xor

[timid swift]

ye, there are many ways, just gotta pick one and try it

[unique mason]

ok i go home and get ready to dive into schizo

see u guys in a bit

[safe monolith]

there's no way, it works on this

[dapper wraith]

so it works on this but not on the actual livestream?

[safe monolith]

yeah it doesn't work on the actual livestream

brain hurty, it might be a bug? i should be getting the same source quality.

are you basically downloading the livestream as it happens?

and it even passes the thresholds too

[dapper wraith]

yes. I download the source HLS stream (the same you get served when watching live on twitch).
(only "processing" is that I fix the container afterwards doing
ffmpeg -err_detect ignore_err -i in.mp4 -c copy out.mp4 but that shouldn't affect the h264 stream itself)

[safe monolith]

yeah, that checks out to me

[dapper wraith]

btw I tried to do a simply test by downloading yesterdays vod and comparing the size against my recording. size of the video streams matches pretty well.

if they're reencoding the vods their settings are close to whatever the livestreams are

[safe monolith]

walked in having fixed one bug, left with 2 more

i still don't know why i'm not getting the right frames during a livestream though.

seems really weird. all i'm doing is youtube-dl -f best ... | ffmpeg <options> -c:v ppm -f image2pipe - and piping that output into code. both livestreams and videos go through this pipeline

so unless youtube-dl is doing some shenanigans i'm not aware of, it should just work ™️

hi darkeew

evidence of arg-related work for the day: #1112082183235047506 message

trust we working

[dapper wraith]

assuming it actually gets the correct quality I would be very surprised if youtube-dl had any impact on the stream itself

unless twitch is giving you embedded preroll ads or something?

I'm using streamlink for downloading/recording the stream btw

[unique mason]

aight im back

altho, i was back like an hour ago but settled in rn

will begin on schizo in 2 hours

[safe monolith]

oh my god, that is probably it

https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/issues/31368, real ripbozo. So the tool was working as expected after all (tentatively)

[dapper wraith]

if that's actually the issue you should be able to bypass it by using an authorization token from an account with sub or twitch turbo or if you can use streamlink it should also be able to filter the ads (the stream will get delayed however)

[safe monolith]

Yikes, seems like ytdlp requires a cookies file for that to work. Surely I won't accidentally publish my cookies to the repo

Thanks skul, I think that's probably the issue. Will fix with streamlink

[abstract horizon]

Something new?

[unique mason]

well

As it turns out my knowledge of AES was way too small and i need to start from the basics to eventually understand how to combine keys

Its 6am for me right now so... future me problem.

I go sleep

gn

[quartz orbit]

is _neurosama the alt channal?

[abstract horizon]

We don't know that but probably yes

[wispy thistle]

yes, https://github.com/neuro-arg

[wispy thistle]

many of us have servers (probably, at least i do)

[wispy thistle]

fifth, [Filtered] may be connected to Soundcloud

[wispy thistle]

yeah problem is no of the lengths match

[wispy thistle]

try putting the archived video URL to be the ytdl link

[wispy thistle]

it works fine in some cases, but after the stream continues for a while it breaks because of twitch forcing an ad break

i guess if the add is forced at the start it will be broken yeah

[tulip minnow]

I love reading a wall of text

Understood 70%

And there’s still no progress

I’m a theorist so I can choose the writers tag right?

The tag is too ugly tho

[safe monolith]

It doesn't need to match to do a XOR on segments of previously known keys. Like a digest

[safe monolith]

If you mean the Twitch-native VOD, I tested this with evil last week and it was fine. No ad rolls from the VOD as far as I could tell

[safe monolith]

[wispy thistle]

well you can export your cookies in cookies.txt format and push to github secrets

[safe monolith]

Yeah ik it won't be visible. But I absolutely don't want to do that if possible though

[wispy thistle]

yeah understandable

github secrets can be extracted

[safe monolith]

sed 's/A/£/p' is more than enough

[safe monolith]

no predictions today?

[wispy thistle]

uh new clue on evil neuro birthday surely

(half a year later) guys maybe we should try solving what we have after all

[safe burrow]

[safe monolith]

absolute bullshit, i can't do "source" on a livestream, i've got to do "best"

[unique mason]

still trying to work on combining the keys rn

dunno if itll work

but i need to get on top of it

[safe monolith]

the trigger works, but code on prod is using the old code . am running new code locally, it detected the right streamer

[unique mason]

surely

[safe monolith]

[timid swift]

for a moment i thought i'd entered an alternate timeline through time travel

[unique mason]

yooo like a .00058 point difference

surely not the artifacts

[safe monolith]

btw on prod i got scammed by the quality, madge

[unique mason]

is it artefacts or artifacts

[safe monolith]

monitoring tool says that's dog & griaffe

[unique mason]

who wouldve thunk

[timid swift]

I glanced at it once, and I'd say it's dog & giraffe

[safe monolith]

[0.9720618953114895, 0.9503613512311867, 0.9365343838224525, 0.9432997825960824, 0.9506814321762569, 0.9326885717065369, 0.9393643080817874, 0.9455869619681257, 0.9394945044831071, 0.9419602400820093, 0.9582273558910016, 0.9475529555711856, 0.9181817129669193, 0.9203505010445148, 0.9432897958937119, 0.9468120868334663, 0.9418196224403849, 0.9468034285726289, 0.9425869343501897, 0.9349593589272089, 0.9319586751736942, 0.9466996075029875, 0.9360280027590315]

SSIM scores btw

[zealous sigil]

Bro is real representation of schizo emote

[dapper wraith]

but that means it works now with using streamlink (aside from the quality selection)?

[safe monolith]

yep!

[unique mason]

which one should one put the most significance in

in like a general case

[safe monolith]

I'd say the 3rd one onwards. Each number represents how close we got to these reference squares (appear in the same order as the list): https://github.com/neuro-arg/arg-monitoring/tree/main/feed-generator/src/sources/twitch_source/neuro

[unique mason]

[safe monolith]

need confirmation that the fax / dial-up / whatever tbh sounds in the song is the same as real song

[hollow garnet]

now we need to check every intro song Vs karaoke

[safe monolith]

all karaoke songs are uploaded to a drive somewhere at some point 🤔
not impossible

(i'm not doing it ||unless||)

[unique mason]

all karaoke songs r in a drive already

made by pb

[unique mason]

https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/118gr4QuaGQGKfJ0X8VBCytvPjdzPayPY

[timid swift]

is there a storage limit on the drive?

[wispy thistle]

vedal is uploading karaoke songs so not for us

[safe monolith]

to do audio anti-schizo, we will need to solve the following:

1. Figure out what song is playing. Have been done before, a library even exists. Need something close to fourier transform + vector db
2. Time matching / synchro
3. Error score between each tranaformed datapoint to the expected datapoint. I think a simple MSE will do
4. Karaoke openings have pure bgm and no voice. Don't schizo over this

wait i guess it's audio schizo

i dont think this can run in monitoring real time

but i think for this it should be acceptable to run over real-time

ooooh, unless we are sure the audio is almost the same. Maybe we can skip most of step 1, don't need to go down to shazam's level of accuracy

[unique mason]

ye its pb afaik, but its there so no need for us to upload it ourself

id say

[unique mason]

what are we looking for tho

also

schizo thought

what if

[safe monolith]

ideally if morse code plays on stream the tool explodes and destroys the world

[unique mason]

we look at the patterns and dates of stream timings

and correlate that to some sort of key that is formed

surely not... right?

[unique mason]

[dapper wraith]

2 more months of no clue and we don't even have to watch the streams anymore to get any clues from them

[safe monolith]

vedal if you don't give us a clue your viewership will drop by 10 arg schizos

[unique mason]

[unique mason]

im genuinely wondering now-

could there be some sort of pattern in the streams

on which day and at which time they started

[digital radish]

why

when it happends, its obvious

and theres always someone there

dont go that far

instead of making that, try doing something with the clues we've gotten

[timid swift]

ehh, gotta have hobbies

you can't control the wind

[digital radish]

with that mindset we're never gonna get another clue

[timid swift]

ye, but with that mindset it's gonna be no fun