Neuro ARG

[digital radish]

please no

stop assigning presidents to every fucking things

its fucking annoying

just please

[uncut cargo]

I wasn't trying to

[digital radish]

i have tried not talking about this but its getting annoying

alright

just atleast do the president thing in general and neurotics only

[uncut cargo]

I was just looking for someone who has the "rank" in the thread as asking majority overall has mixed results

[digital radish]

you could do a "box" for the arg thread, and we'd write our names in it

or the inital people who were in it

[timid swift]

Bro, are you ok?

[digital radish]

sorry just burn out from many things

[timid swift]

its arite, i've been there

[digital radish]

i didnt mean to offend

im just really tired and everything basically annoys me

[uncut cargo]

No worries, we've all been there

[timid swift]

Story of my life :p

[digital radish]

but would you consider this a good idea?

a box with #neuro-arg ontop of it, then we can write our names in it

[timid swift]

Works for me. Little tight deadline to summon all the less frequent people, but yea!

[uncut cargo]

Its a somewhat decent idea, tho right bottom corner is already bit filled with names of canvas veterans
So I personally think some nice words in the name of the thread would be better but that's just my opinion

[digital radish]

i think writing 572943 and decorating each number according to the arg would be cool

[timid swift]

oh, we could do a QR code or something too. Just a simple one, maybe break it a little

[uncut cargo]

i think we have more than enough pixels to do it

would be in the style of the thread too

[digital radish]

ah, we can do the qr code and then an image with some names drawn on it

(all encoded in base64 :3)

[uncut cargo]

[timid swift]

the key to the cipher is saying it back

[uncut cargo]

we should probably ask if we can even make a QR code there, but all and all wonderful idea

[timid swift]

yea, that's a good idea. Shouldn't get ahead of usselves

[uncut cargo]

allow me to ask then

[abstract horizon]

[potent cobalt]

Either the box or the QR code works for me.

[timid swift]

Oh hey Bit

[potent cobalt]

Hey.

[uncut cargo]

QR code is approved, just no links.
So we can discuss what to put there

[hollow garnet]

more next times

[timid swift]

I read it more as reluctance to put a QR code regardless, but yeah. We still need to figure out a greeting -- or if we should just get people to sign their names (:

next next birthday

[potent cobalt]

We'll solve the ARG next next next.... time.

[timid swift]

that's what the message meant all along!

[hollow garnet]

how about

[timid swift]

what is that kerning?

Oh wait, no, it's the the space at the end that's confusing my eyes

I think if we overlaid that one something it'd be pretty good. Though it obviously can't be other text or it'll be a whole puzzle on its own

[potent cobalt]

I think there's also something else wrong with the screenshot and the zoom level, but .

[hollow garnet]

its mspaints finest screenshot

[hollow garnet]

i got bored and wanted to see how viable brute forcing qr codes was for the partial one we have
i am able to fully create and decode a qr code in 96us and am able to do just the decoding (because it probably wouldn't even be creating proper qr codes, just messing about) in like 20us

so we'd be doing somewhere in the range of 40k+ qr codes per second per thread, assuming that performance remains the same for invalid qr codes

though from some quick maths it'd take about 2 hours to brute force valid qr codes if we only had 32 missing bits

(this could probably be sped up with some cheeky library rewriting as it uses a lot of heap allocations, though I'm a bit busy at the moment)

[potent cobalt]

Yeah, so have I. :P

[safe monolith]

oh, in that case is there some hope for the qr code?

let us know what is the conclusion for the canvas

[hollow garnet]

absolutely, depending on how much we've already recovered

I recon it's pretty possible with some clever changing of parts of the qr to try and kick error correction into action

though looking at https://docs.google.com/document/d/13NLIZNYFdJgD82Sy4TsBWB-ggbeNJHui2yH1rjs9xdQ/edit?usp=drivesdk it looks like we still have a fair lot we haven't matched up

[safe monolith]

aite. I'm assuming all these are assuming 8bit encoding? With alphanumeric it might take up to 4 hours. Also we might end up having a huge number of possible matches

Thanks estonte

[young quest]

The arg be legit solving the meaning of life now

[gritty thorn]

I swear this ARG will make us discover the secret of eternal youth before we solve anything

[timber whale]

Turns out Vedal knew it all along

[hollow garnet]

I think it detects the encoding, though it might only return strings. when I said bits I meant pixels on the qr code

[safe monolith]

estonte, what are you using the numbers 141693817714076713234709967875411919677707794958199867 and 141693817714056513234509965855411919657705794958199845 to decrypt?

was in the middle of writing a script to try all numbers in 1416938177140-6-13234-0996-8-54119196-770-7949581998--, but realized the sizes don't work out

[safe monolith]

But based on what we have, we don't have the error correction bits. It'll work against us if we rely on error correction, since it's possible to use error correction to hide information in the data bits #1112082183235047506 message.

So this manner of reducing the search space won't work. But if it'll run only for 2 hours, we can just try every combination until we schizo out some text

[hollow garnet]

i mean its worth trying if i can get something working

another idea i had was tring to brute force the data to get a matching error correction section, but i'd need to make sure that idea actually works without a bunch of false posistives

[safe monolith]

yup ok sounds good

[safe monolith]

i might try my hand at it, at some point

[safe burrow]

[gritty thorn]

I don't know if it helps, but if anything it's a cool little fun-fact:

If you sync Public static Void at 1:51 and Meaning of Life at 14:27, the scene begins and ends at the exact same time, with the same sound of the door opening and closing. Meaning those scenes could be correlated

[safe monolith]

Thanks Jackx, that has been discovered. Check the docs

[gritty thorn]

oh, ok

[safe monolith]

Thank you though

[hollow garnet]

ok on second thought

there might be a better way

[calm veldt]

Gigachad

[gritty thorn]

that static background on PSV is also intriguing me for a while, how it stays there until 1:50, then it disappears on the second half of the video

the whole ARG having static stuff, then a dedicated video for us to learn Horizontal hold and CRT callibration...

then we have this part on Study

[hollow garnet]

this minimap i cursed i love it

[hollow garnet]

we could 100% brute force 2^294 different combinations, right

[safe monolith]

Sounds doable

[hollow garnet]

for some unbenownst reason by laptop appears to have become a jet engine

[safe monolith]

probably just the wind

[serene tree]

new clue just dropped (totally not a excuse to post here)

[abstract horizon]

WHERE!!?

(joke)

[potent cobalt]

[abstract horizon]

[zenith pike]

Looks like a frame from bad apple

[burnt glacier]

Hiyori apple

eating it turns you into an engineer

[hollow garnet]

i've been trying some brute force with this to no luck (probably due to how absurdly silly this method is). if anyone has a better version of the qr code i'd be happy to try it

also stealing the format info from the dog giraffe qr, but I can use others

[safe monolith]

Does the copied format info also include the mask?

[hollow garnet]

anything that's in the blue part of the qr

[safe monolith]

Oh that includes the mask

brute force that too

ok, but, if the QR code is meant to be recoverable, and the arg overlord is not evil, surely this will be one of the easier masks

[hollow garnet]

I can use any of the masks

[safe monolith]

have you tried the pieces + rotation interpretation?

i'll craft it on qrazybox

wait

is that qr code even possible

[hollow garnet]

I should write a const parser for qrazybox outputs

[safe monolith]

i'm gonna ignore the bottom 2 rows

[hollow garnet]

I think the one I'm using assumes they go off the bottom

[safe monolith]

on a 25x25 this doesn't feel possible

that would be somewhere here

[hollow garnet]

what if it's mirrored diagonally

[safe monolith]

with whites. imma try 29x29

[hollow garnet]

also my code is wayy slower than expected

in that case I'm gonna work on making this code more usable

[calm veldt]

I count 5 pixels here no?

[safe monolith]

ok

on 29x29, you'd have to try masks 0-3

[safe monolith]

below the eye we're limited to 4 pixels

[calm veldt]

Compared to here

[hollow garnet]

that's doable (though i'm not doing anything exhaustive here fwiw)

[calm veldt]

Why?

[safe monolith]

if we're assuming it's not a gigantic QR code, a QR code can only have 4 pixels of depth below the eye

[hollow garnet]

we only get more space arround that marker at 45x45

[calm veldt]

Well it has to be more than 4 unless we're assuming parts of the image is irrelevant

[safe monolith]

yeah, i already discarded the bottom 2 black rows as an assumption, so tbh fair enough

but if it's 45x45 it'll be almost impossible to get something meaningful from so little data

like i mean just look at this

[calm veldt]

Yeah idk what to make of that, this is what I got from this

Not 100% right because of folding and stuff

[safe monolith]

ok at least on a 45x45 we know that the eye must be in the middle or middle-right

[calm veldt]

Remind me again where the original source for the pillow was?

[hollow garnet]

i can try doing stuff on a 45x45 qr btw

[safe monolith]

halloween stream opening

imagine we just didn't rotate the eye right

[calm veldt]

Don't think that's possible

Given what we see already, there would be pixels outside of the qr code no matter what

[safe monolith]

not on a 45x45 though (especially on the middle eye)

[calm veldt]

True, I thought you were refering to the smaller one

[safe monolith]

yeah, smaller one is

just as a slight sanity check i also QR'd the description of [filtered]. it ends up being 45x45, but i don't see any matches

[calm veldt]

What if you overlap the two codes

[safe monolith]

45x45 version (center eye) at bred

[hollow garnet]

do you have the output from qrazy box for that

[safe monolith]

[filtered] QR'd, medium correction

[hollow garnet]

this gives a text output

[digital radish]

how possible it is to "straighten" an image

[hollow garnet]

i guess you could make a 3d model and project it

[safe monolith]

too big to embed

[hollow garnet]

its annoying because we don't know what shape it is

[digital radish]

hmmm what about any other qr code parts?

[hollow garnet]

[safe monolith]

lgtm

[calm veldt]

Won't it work the same no matter what way you turn it?

I mean the centre is symmetrical, so it should work in all directions

[safe monolith]

sorry i must be disabled, this ain't no 45x45, this is 57x57

so no, couldn't be [filtered]

surely the qr code we're looking for can't get bigger than 45x45 right

[hollow garnet]

my current method would do up to 128x128

bigger than that and i'd probably stop using integers to store the qr code

[safe monolith]

Hmm, I theorize that beyond 45x45, we should already be able to get partial output even if the original QR is 128x128

If you're also bruteforcing the error bits, that is

We just have to search all the masks as well

Hmm, but this fails only if we have been given the ending part of data, and the start part of error?

The entire error portion depends on all bits in the data portion. The data portion just kinda exists on its own with each bit independent w.r.t. another bit

crap, i think we're given both data and error if we assume they are laid out in the center eye

Center-right is fine

conclusion:

• if center eye, we have to search sizes larger than 45x45 independently
• if center-right eye, a bruteforce on 45x45 should be able to net a partial solution for all sizes larger than 45x45

Wait hold on, disregard

edit: i don't know what i'm doing, i'm just gonna castle

might have a method to get a partial output, i'll try cooking something

[zealous sigil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEH2r8H8n-0 Sure it will be ARG related thing

[onyx quarry]

Has anyone noticed slight movement of the blindfolded Study Girl image at the end of Numbers II and start of PSV?

It wanders about on the screen slightly. All images of non-blindfolded Study Girl are completely static

[safe monolith]

am able to confirm

[onyx quarry]

Cooking up some theories atm, but thinking that it (combined with it disappearing when the screen is turned off in PSV) means the image might actually be a reflection

It may also make the 'I miss her' text in Numbers II a subtitle for blindfolded Study Girl's speech / thoughts

[timid swift]

clue in 10 minutes?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofiJj5ZtQ10

I'm not familiar with Will, but then I live under a rock. From their YT channel:

this is how the original for that song appears (just not with english text)
Still a fun coincidence

[timid swift]

0 ARG detected

[safe monolith]

Looks normal to me

[tawny pasture]

Just got to watching Camila and Neuro’s cover of Monster and this bothers me

This is not how morse is separated.

[safe monolith]

it literally becomes "Monster" tho (iirc)

[tawny pasture]

Would be “M o n s t e r”

[safe monolith]

Ok fair enough. What's the insight?

[tawny pasture]

Just a bit bothered by it

[young quest]

Guy no nowaying I have solve the meaning of the arg it in the song it self

[safe monolith]

surely solved is a strong word, but go on

[timid swift]

words are hard

[young quest]

|| if you don’t get it why are we here solving the arg when it literally impossible like in the message of the song (JK) ||

[timber whale]

Emotional support fumo deployed

[young quest]

SOOO CUTE, I WILL NOW SUPPORT THE ARG UNTIL MY DEATH OR IT GET SOLVE

[abstract horizon]

Thank you

[tawdry narwhal]

can't wait for the clue on subathon start surely

[young quest]

Maybe

[safe burrow]

[azure oyster]

it's interesting how the name relates to hiyori when this is neuro

[brittle topaz]

https://www.reddit.com/r/NeuroSama/comments/18l3c2q/neurosama_iceberg/

[distant girder]

i love that one guy being like "all this creepy-paste like stuff at the bottom, its not that deep" like, yeah it isn't but the lower you go on any iceberg it either becomes more and more detail oriented for the information or more and more shizo

[fathom ginkgo]

i like that most of it is from arg xd

[distant girder]

i mean the iceberg would be an ice sheet otherwise

[crystal urchin]

Must be a clue https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE-Q0D6e0pk

[vapid token]

Holy

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1093753884738068530/1155564184210247691/listening.gif

[uncut cargo]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1093753884738068530/1155564184210247691/listening.gif?ex=6591ac02&is=657f3702&hm=2e45805c7ca3b1e0489150878d5438083354f470d12bfec4992b897342576c52&

[daring acorn]

Might be going schizo here. But am looking at the audio for study and am comparing the A and B sides (from where the point the songs seemingly loops) and except the breathing and knocking both sides have differences. not that you can hear or see unless you look at the waveforms really closley or try to compare the two tracks

[timid swift]

There are also some slight differences in the lyrics, so it's 100% different takes

[safe monolith]

can't wait for the 2 hour non-euclidean vr arg drop today

[hollow garnet]

spotify album has a black cover, clearly this is a clue

[onyx quarry]

Surely something's hidden there

[hollow garnet]

i stole this one off of apple music

i have no clue what size its supposed to be but i messed with the url and got it at 2048*2048, though it might be upscaled

yeah im pretty convinced that's just solid black

neuro now has spotify though
https://open.spotify.com/artist/7qFU02MvlE8O38L6ykvG3e?si=Xmqv2NthTG60cI9db7Pziw

[onyx quarry]

Added a test pixel before adjusting curves, looks like black to me

Wat

[safe monolith]

Wait what

[hollow garnet]

i just clicked this

[safe monolith]

Surely co-incidence

[hollow garnet]

(though not sure if this is an actual profile or just one that semi exists because they sing in the song)

[onyx quarry]

Might be a spotify crediting thing

Time to learn the spotify api I guess. Need to blanket search for Neuro

[hollow garnet]

yeah looks like they are either different profiles or something, not sure
(this is a different artist, but they appear in some songs as the left song and others as the right profile - both of which they are in)

[safe monolith]

I think there's a tool for this, was distributed with kali

[hollow garnet]

fwiw these are the songs that link to each profile
https://open.spotify.com/track/6C24tfeBafPry3RbZI8RfT?si=9d390d84ada842d7 <- proper profile
https://open.spotify.com/track/55eNMz6A0tkC0KV9Ud3pSE?si=a6de97b002d44443 <- more blank profile

[safe monolith]

Track IDs are 22 characters

[hollow garnet]

those tracks i linked have different length track ids

[safe monolith]

oh

[hollow garnet]

unless its just a font issue

[safe monolith]

How big can they get

No both are 22

[hollow garnet]

it was a font issue

lol one just looked a lot longer than the other

[timid swift]

non mono fonts win again

[safe monolith]

Ok just a small note somewhere, maybe it'll be relevant soon

[hollow garnet]

maybe we need to wait 10 months and 20 days for the next hint

[digital radish]

guys, today is the last qr code of the year

[unique mason]

surely

[unique mason]

or maybe its supposed to come out 12 months - 10months and 20 days since the cover came out

[tawdry narwhal]

[pulsar glen]

surely the new screen doesn't have space for a qr code and endless looking can stop now

[safe monolith]

great art sadeccs

[digital radish]

theres not even a qr code

damn

i lied

[tawdry narwhal]

it's a QR code ribbon

[safe monolith]

it's gonna glitch exactly at frame 572943

[hardy burrow]

huh wait no qr code?

[tawdry narwhal]

just need to untie it

[jade spruce]

Everyone be at attention for the clues

[dapper wraith]

bar code?

[hardy burrow]

i don't see it

[hollow garnet]

my ears ow

[unique mason]

oh wait i do see it

[safe monolith]

?

[hollow garnet]

i thought i was a pound coin for a moment

[digital radish]

LOL

OKAY

[unique mason]

pog

[digital radish]

we get v1

[unique mason]

v1

[digital radish]

thats amazing

[unique mason]

very nice

maybe its a transition all the way to v3

[digital radish]

oh

its a remix

so likely

yep

in 5 months

1 year of arg

we gotta celebrate it

[unique mason]

:feelstrongman:

[safe monolith]

strictly not one year yet

[unique mason]

surely clue then

[digital radish]

nofuckingway

[safe monolith]

?

[unique mason]

yoooo

classic

[digital radish]

he didnt just dodge charger

okay this is just reactions to the livestream

[safe monolith]

maybe we get clue for arg anniversary

[digital radish]

lets uhm post schizo

so we arent moderatable

[safe monolith]

mods busy with #livestream-chat surely

[digital radish]

yeah surely no one here

[proud lark]

Now we need to get every date of when neuro sang songs from this mashup

[digital radish]

its just a mountain

[unique mason]

i was right

[safe monolith]

but which mountain

[hollow garnet]

i thought it was a fumo lol

[digital radish]

am i schizo or did she change colors

last minute gonna be arg clues

[onyx quarry]

Appropriate song

[safe monolith]

[cunning osprey]

#livestream-chat message

there is a barcode hidden above her highest shoe
maybe? looks a bit weird, could just be downscaled details from that smaller image

[digital radish]

clues

clues

prepare

[safe monolith]

that not barcode

[cunning osprey]

just hard to recognize details
no clue

[digital radish]

oh we're getting clues

[safe monolith]

look out for May

[cobalt axle]

there's a lot of details there, sure something is a clue

[digital radish]

when evil appears, clue

trust me

or not

dont trust me

[hollow garnet]

surely a clue on the 23rd of april

[pulsar glen]

What's on 23rd of April?

[hollow garnet]

start of the arg according to the timesheet at least

[safe monolith]

true upload date of numbers iirc

or was it study

one of them

[pulsar glen]

Ah, true. I would've thought 27th of May though, since it's not exactly public

[digital radish]

2 videos iirc

numbers and study

on the same day

[safe monolith]

[digital radish]

get the timesheet

[pulsar glen]

Real

[safe monolith]

GIRAFFE 👏

[tawny pasture]

INCOMING

[digital radish]

its night

[narrow turtle]

Hiding in a cave

[safe monolith]

yoo

[digital radish]

actually cute

[hollow garnet]

there was nothing on may 15th in the timesheet what the flip

[digital radish]

honestly screw the arg, neuro has grown so much

[uncut cargo]

kek

smart

[digital radish]

THE CHECKERS ARE A CLUE

[safe monolith]

putting a pin on this

[hollow garnet]

do the arg refence ones appear on the days the clues dropped i can't tell

the sept one looks close

[vapid token]

SoCute

[digital radish]

slowly reaching the 31st

[safe monolith]

aww i like how blindfold hiyori is just in all the scenes after may

[vapid token]

Nice 144p, sorry

[uncut cargo]

we might want to analyse the drums later...just in case

[potent cobalt]

"Hello world!" was released in September.

[pulsar glen]

So who will document all instances of hiyori in the intro with pictures

[tawny pasture]

SHE WAS THERE

[placid rock]

may 15th was the date neuro kept saying her debut would be on? i think

[hollow garnet]

oct 31st lined up too

[digital radish]

starting to this the hiyori with a bar is a different AI

so we have 3 AIs

neuro, evil and whoever that is

presumably Airis

[safe monolith]

what this

[ruby imp]

oh i think it's literally just streams where she she made an appearance

[digital radish]

clue?

please?

aw

[onyx quarry]

Noticed several numbers in the background near the start, maybe clue?

[digital radish]

CLUE

CLUE

[hollow garnet]

hm

[digital radish]

clue?

no clue :(

[safe monolith]

bro this intro sequence is stacked

[hollow garnet]

[digital radish]

HE ADDED IT

[safe monolith]

can't read it

[digital radish]

ARG TEXT

THERE WAS ARG TEXT

[unique mason]

Wait where

[potent cobalt]

I saw.

[digital radish]

arg lore that we discovered

it was there

the boring thing

[unique mason]

WAIT WHAT

uh wait nvm im schizo

thought i saw smth

[safe monolith]

classic schizo

[digital radish]

3d model

OH

THE BACKGROUND

[safe monolith]

same monitor question mark

[digital radish]

i think the background is the same

[hollow garnet]

ill go fetch the vod once this intro ends

[digital radish]

socute vedal

[coral hazel]

I saw here

[uncut cargo]

I saw something there too I think

[cobalt axle]

something blinked

[placid rock]

i got an ad

[uncut cargo]

definitely

[safe monolith]

its fine its fine we have the vod

[uncut cargo]

That glitch was odd?

or is it me schizo

[inland spindle]

there was binary code i think

i saw ones and zeros

[hollow garnet]

[inland spindle]

in background of the song

[hollow garnet]

[safe monolith]

mind uploading the result on gdrive?

what vod are you using?

[hollow garnet]

i just ran yt-dlp "https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2008476957"

because the vods come up as soon as the stream starts

[dapper wraith]

I also have a local recording in case the twitch VOD has muted audio

[safe monolith]

ok lemme get my hands on this

[hollow garnet]

this better not be binary

i don't want to hunt an entire video for random bytes

[dapper wraith]

there were some bits on the computer screen

~24:14

[safe monolith]

looks literally like 1s and 0s

[hollow garnet]

oh is it literally 10101010

[dapper wraith]

now that you mention it

[safe monolith]

i'll upload the intro sequence vod to gdrive as well

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1krQKc2WE-BlR4mr0q1WhXJDng7msLsrE/view?usp=drive_link
1.2gb

[hollow garnet]

i can put the halloween one in if you want

not sure if its in there

[safe monolith]

yes plz

[hollow garnet]

[safe monolith]

quickly adjusting gain and increasing gamma on the white frames (towards the end), can't find anything

[hollow garnet]

also

[proud lark]

Arg glitch

[safe monolith]

tutel deadge

[proud lark]

seems like nothing useful tho

[safe monolith]

i'm gonna frame by frame sadecccs' turning calendar thing

[hollow garnet]

[safe monolith]

going through the thing frame by frame makes me want this spinning thingy as my actual calendar

[proud lark]

yeah no clues in animation

[onyx quarry]

No arg clues in song

[crimson tendon]

You have unlocked new role

[safe monolith]

haven't seen one of those in a while

[hollow garnet]

just need to do more schizo chatting

[onyx quarry]

[potent cobalt]

Halloween intro was mentioned.

[abstract horizon]

Something new?

Looks like yes

[digital radish]

no

[abstract horizon]

Ok

[potent cobalt]

Nothing substantial so far. There were some mentions to the ARG in the intro video, but nothing new.

[onyx quarry]

Unwrapping the diorama is going well

[sour herald]

Chat what are you cookin?

[abstract horizon]

Hmmm.. CLUES

I sniff them but i don't know where

schizo moment

[safe monolith]

nothing based on my eyes

btw

yup same conclusion as ponuno, can't find anything

[abstract horizon]

Nice art, very cute

If you download the art Is called hiyori, schizo moment! That's s clueeee!!

[safe monolith]

hmm can we get the subathon time to 57:29:43

[abstract horizon]

[uncut cargo]

timestamp?

[safe monolith]

26:23

[uncut cargo]

could that be an actual confirmation?

that hiyori is study?

[safe monolith]

vedal said he only provided the song, and didn't work on the video itself

so cast [x]

[abstract horizon]

[uncut cargo]

[abstract horizon]

Let's be schizo

[uncut cargo]

goddammit

I knew it was too good to be true

[abstract horizon]

So no oficial clues

[safe burrow]

Time to hug everyone

[hollow garnet]

clearly her saying MQ== is a hint

👀

[digital radish]

Mg==

[hollow garnet]

..no?

[digital radish]

Mg==

you'll understand it if you decode

smh smh

[hollow garnet]

[fresh python]

dw guys, I'm sure you will get a clue, stay strong

(lol nah)

[safe monolith]

madge

[onyx quarry]

Surely I know enough maths to inverse cylindrical projection

[safe monolith]

how're you doing that? taking the centre column pixels of every frame and then stitching them together?

or is this just one frame

[safe monolith]

will we get anything if the timer ticks down to 57:29:43?

[onyx quarry]

Just one frame to dial the function in

Each column will be stretched in proportion to its distance from the center

[safe monolith]

ooh sounds difficult. i was thinking to combine center column pixels every say 2 frames or so

that should be enough for one full revolution

every 2 frames because of popups and stuff

[onyx quarry]

Every ~75 frames it moves one of those notches

Thought it'd be cool to try and keep the movement as much as I could, but might try that first

[dapper wraith]

https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1186807811338932255

[safe monolith]

The main person themself 👏

[onyx quarry]

It's amazing how beautiful it looks

[proud lark]

[inland spindle]

sorry i have a question did anyone noticed and checked the spectrogram of these weird sounds after the end of the song in streams intro?

[abstract horizon]

Hmmm

Nice question

[inland spindle]

i don't see anything in spectrogram but idk if i look at it correctly

so someone could do that too

vedal said he didn't have any input in animation to the song so there probably aren't any clues but he did have input to the song so there still might be something there

[onyx quarry]

Good spot, might have found something

Volume warning

At the very end of vanor's intro clip, amplified by ~ 30db

How it looks on the spectrogram

One of these days I'll open FLDIGI and actually find something, surely

[gritty thorn]

'_' face

[cobalt axle]

what abou slowing the audio?

[onyx quarry]

There are some extra beeps that aren't in the clip I posted

The sounds start at about 26:46 iirc

[dusty flicker]

looked also and doesn't seem like anything
unless it's a sinewave

[sand summit]

I believe there will be no clues in this video.
This video is made by neuro fans in China.
Link: 【【自制手书】B站的我们送给英国小AI的生日礼物！“I'm Neuro,i love you"-哔哩哔哩】 https://www.bilibili.com/video/av537413697

[hollow garnet]

yeah vedal mentioned he got sent it just before the stream started

[proud lark]

Only possible source of clues is saddecs intro, no doubt

[lost anvil]

^

well couple days before

[hollow garnet]

Spotify now has an album cover

[unique mason]

which album?

[hollow garnet]

https://open.spotify.com/album/0OJ8T20pYQmg4e73cpVObs?si=ksausqozSq-0ZwazdsTGdw&context=spotify%3Aalbum%3A0OJ8T20pYQmg4e73cpVObs

[unique mason]

oh wait i just checked before it was still blank for me

wait nvm just had to restart spotify

[jade spruce]

CLUE

[gritty thorn]

CLUE

[vapid token]

[ruby imp]

0100110001100101011011000110110001101110

[coral hazel]

"Lelln" from bin to hex (4C656C6C6E) to ascii so look like nothing important

[gritty thorn]

she luled in binary

[safe monolith]

Surely one of these days we'll get a clue directly from neuro's mouth

[uncut cargo]

She's mocking this thread

[cobalt axle]

should we try and put the "study" girl in canvas? maybe that's the next step of the ARG

[safe burrow]

[uncut cargo]

I still have template from connors canvas

[digital radish]

we havent decoded the code yet smh

[distant girder]

we just kinda threw the towel with the latest video

i will say the saame thing that i usually say: we are probably missing something really obvious

[safe monolith]

there's still some of us trying to do something in the background, wouldn't say we've given up yet

It's on the list

(contributions welcome )

[distant girder]

i wish i could contribute but i'm actually too smoothbrained for any form of deeper help besides obvious stuff

[timid swift]

such is the life of an ARGer. Precious few have the knowhow + time + energy to actually solve stuff. The best most of us can do is aid in some way, or try to rule out bad leads

[distant girder]

in fact i would love to help since there is a bunch of stuff that bothers me but i actually have no freaking clue wtf to do with it

[timid swift]

write it out and organize it. That's my take anyway :p

[inland spindle]

okay nvm i'm kinda dumb the sounds are there in the original song too so it's nothing

[timid swift]

eh, only dumb questions are repeat questions, you're fine

[unique mason]

neuro is slowly confirming so many of study's character traits that i had already jotted down for the fanfic

her being an artist while being forced to be an engineer being one of them

well, it adds to the accuracy of the characters

[timid swift]

"confirming"

[heavy plinth]

Nwero is her human name

[unique mason]

bro have you seen the omniversal battlefield page for neuro it has way weaker threads connecting stuff

[safe monolith]

the what

[unique mason]

https://omniversal-battlefield.fandom.com/wiki/Neuro-Sama?so=search

Its actually an insane rabbit hole

very interesting

the page puts her at a type 1-A entity

atleast the last time i read it

might have changed since then

and also apparently the moon in-verse in it is as big as our universe while the sun is inifinitely larger than the sun

[timid swift]

i'm not sure I understand how articles with worse evidence standards has any bearing on the standard for evidence we should adhere to

[unique mason]

im just saying- its coherent and interesting with way weaker evidence so the artist thing is solid

[timid swift]

that's a bit subjective. I find it really interesting when strong lines can be followed to make a clear, if smaller picture

[plucky bronze]

so were the glitches two hours ago part of ARG?

[timid swift]

100%

[safe monolith]

here in the arg we practice clue unless proven schizo

[safe monolith]

[frail verge]

It's real

[abstract horizon]

somebody ask neuro for this

It's a clue for sure

[lost niche]

Might as well check

[timid swift]

i didn't decode it, but it sure is a lot of e's

[jade crystal]

ENEIHEESETISETRNICODEERNNIL

[copper acorn]

it says code that means its a code

[lost niche]

Ah yes, E

Heh maybe its the final piece

[abstract horizon]

I see

That's a clue!

[vapid token]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1067638175478071307/1141808227168825374/ezgif-3-820507e53e.gif

[gritty thorn]

[lost niche]

Hmm

[midnight lotus]

Hey

[onyx quarry]

[midnight lotus]

Hello. Nice pfp

[onyx quarry]

[unique mason]

Schizo for the schizo god

||so consistent ||

[unique mason]

wait guys i just realised we wont be getting a starting soon screen for weeks

dunno if thats a good or bad thing tho

[timid swift]

At this rate we'll be waiting until May 16th

[safe monolith]

arg anniversary

[hollow garnet]

~~it means I'll have a holiday where a clue doesn't drop halfway through ~~

[timid swift]

bred hurry up and have a holiday so we can get a clue

[hollow garnet]

currently en route to an airport lol

[timid swift]

the moment before you go airplane mode a clue is gonna drop

[safe monolith]

every time we got a clue, someone is asleep, bred is on a holiday, it was a neuro stream, it was an evil stream, it was offstream or someone was breathing

coincidence?

[timid swift]

I. Think. Not.

[onyx quarry]

À…f

[abstract horizon]

CLUE DAY!!

[abstract horizon]

I have a idea!

Batter not

Is very schizo

[safe monolith]

aite who sent that tts

[potent cobalt]

You joke, but this actually happened to me.

[timid swift]

Aha, so it's you we need to make look away for a picosecond then!

[zealous sigil]

#1188134942710964317 message ?

[safe monolith]

Hmm

ever heard of static-sama?

[uncut cargo]

they are still around 'ere

[safe monolith]

static-sama and sadeccs both gave us some valuable lessons

[uncut cargo]

nah sadeccs is a whole different book

[timid swift]

is this loss?

[safe burrow]

[safe burrow]

[safe burrow]

what if we unite and be a friendly team and family, I just don’t remember half of it...

[safe monolith]

don't worry static, no hard feelings.

just trying to justify why a random art post couldn't possibly be an arg clue

clue unless proven schizo

[timid swift]

indeed, it was a good thing, all things considered.
A lot of people here are/were new to ARGs, so having a friendly person derail the investigation was a good lesson. It would've been bad if it was someone malicious, and there's still the chance that someone malicious might show up even now!
In fact, there was someone else at the same time as all that back then, who had people download files and stuff from their server. I wasn't there when it happened, but after the fact I felt uneasy about it. One thing is SADecsSs sending us sussy zip files (base64 => zip => image), but some anonymous person? No, that's dangerous territory.
I'm sure most people know how to stay safe around potentially dangerous files, but some might not, so it's good that we have now set a precedent of mistrust. Anyone could be anyone and we know that now! (:

[safe burrow]

[cloud crystal]

[safe monolith]

Small random thought.

_neurosama (channel name) has a prefix underscore, while namespace Message_ (hello world!) has a postfix underscore. Looking up C# names (Breadth / anyone familiar with C# please correct me), it is also possible to do namespace _Message, so I'm schizoing that the underscore placement is a deliberate choice.

Could this mean that _neurosama means pre neurosama, while namespace Message_ means one message after a certain message?

Another small thought. Look at the code:

namespace Message_
{
   class HelloWorld {
                 public static void Main(string[] args)
        {
            System.Console.WriteLine("hello world!");
        }
    }
}

Look at the position of public static void; the p lines up with the _ in Message_. It's surely tabbed wrongly on purpose.

Let's interpret the order of events as the order they're tabbed:

name (neurosama? Study?) -> "today in class" (Numbers) -> "hello world" -> PSV "main" (does this mean the "main" message?)

That order might make more sense if reversed (assuming inner -> outer):
PSV -> "hello world" -> Numbers -> Study

If we look at the sequence of events in meaning of life (no reversal):
"hello world" -> house -> door open / door close -> Study

So er, doing our best to merge them together:
PSV (Japanese sequence) -> "hello world" -> house (this might be a classroom) + Numbers -> door open / door close -> Study

now we reverse them:
Study -> Door Open / Door Close -> Class -> "hello world" -> PSV (Japanese sequence)

Why this might make sense:

1. In Study, we hear songs about someone loathing engineering studies. Loathing but not loathed.
2. In Numbers (II especially), we discover that Study "is missing".
3. "hello world" tells us we can't reach the number. Study is just missing for real
4. PSV shows something fading away, doing something, becoming something not human

end of small random thought thanks for attending my ted talk

the conclusion is idk what i'm doing

[abstract horizon]

[timid swift]

namespace Message_ (hello world!) has a postfix underscore. Looking up C# names, it is also possible to do namespace _Message
Not only is it possible, _name has been an important naming conversion in early C# where the reference to self, this. did not exist. Granted, not for namespaces but for instance variables. As a sidenote, it's why some still use _ before the instance variable names even long long after we got this in C#.

Anyway, history lesson aside, I agree that the indentation should be assumed to mean something. It could be as simple as a key for looking at monowidth font, as code always is represented in, and scan the other direction, eg down from the underscore _lp m or similar. Diagonals? Donno

Is there any way to search online for specific spacing?

[onyx quarry]

n{}amecsl}paascs{}HMeelslSsoyaWsgotere_lpmdu.bC{loincsosltea.tWircitvsoLiidneM(a"ihne(lsltoriwnogr[l]d!a"r)g;s)

(spaces removed)

[timid swift]

soya got loin tea

[safe monolith]

\it

[abstract horizon]

Hmmm that's sus

Why neuro Is using so much binary code?

Like now?

before neuro didn't do it

This Is a clue

[timid swift]

[safe monolith]

[tawny pasture]

Translation: "t"

[abstract horizon]

[safe monolith]

could have sworn she has said hex / binary in a couple streams before the subathon

[abstract horizon]

Really?

[onyx quarry]

572943 bits costs £6801.10, who wants to chip in?

[digital radish]

extremely wrong

you just dont get many chill streams anymore

there was always one or two binaries in chill stream

mainly chill streams, but can happend in any

[safe burrow]

Because this is how can encrypt name of alcoholic drink

[uncut cargo]

Merry christmas ARG friends

[abstract horizon]

Ok

I see, this happend because i don't use very much Twitch

[safe monolith]

Merry christmas folks

[abstract horizon]

Let me delete the message so there is no confusion.

[safe monolith]

Now I look schizo

[abstract horizon]

We are schizo

So this Is normal

[safe monolith]

nahhhhhhhh

[abstract horizon]

Ah, i almost forgot, merry christmas

[uncut cargo]

Oh and I forgor
Also schizo new year

[safe monolith]

maybe the arg ends on 31st December

[abstract horizon]

I don't think that

[safe monolith]

you've gotta wake up guys, arg ended 15 may 2023

[lost niche]

the arg will never end

[onyx quarry]

We forever then

[undone lily]

How close are we to solving?

[vapid token]

[safe monolith]

as close as vedal is to paying off his debts

[undone lily]

So I can try to help?

[onyx quarry]

You should take a look at the docs for Meaning of Life if you have a moment

[undone lily]

?

[safe monolith]

Check pins

Here is a quick link to the overview doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/17KrbPUAVu4wDTbj3sBtWTnjRsjDTCdh89F_5L1LvX0A/edit#heading=h.j7yktin3xotl

[uncut cargo]

Yes, there is a doc called "meaning of life"

Fit all makes sense, trust

[onyx quarry]

For easy access to those who might want it, here's roughly what we've found:

From the dark frame @ 14:41:

692048501258949201

From the light frame @ 14:41:

bb ce td ht eft ggd
  sgfi dqj ie br vtye b sbs

From reading the black bars on the light frame as binary and converting to ASCII

c75e0fb05eec877fc8522e550df55ded5b50508fbbe88bb7d82e28d8f2df0e2b

Possible transcription for the base64 + encrypted string:

jeISomyoFEJcqVt9NRBYsaD8OLh2Wx1qU4TotoFNDeKPwcZQynZBJA7pRGYzk12HbPXZnAHlt+nTa/AhJQ/bSuEOSH6ho5UOCCn5y4/bXlVFmtU+8NPgm8r4RC1p9dWwtzXIqi5FkLu3ur+0KNRR+Ay
PrwnX5+QaNtgbHAvwDJ6YwG+leyYtbwnsh2VHh/MRjhIXJiWIpRrFudLXi9eqb8wr+n49QbjlZaKD+iC9DQbcgikAfnBhJhFYRnHarfVZ
onyWMp9VfTZOwIBhWacHUHQQMpdshoMrURRIbO49Wvo6aUhX6Y2GAazFlodmRMdwOQ2mpjYH6owgY80z7mX50k60tB3nosrVh5Sc7DE+fgW4Nlt+hShVgsPz3g69XteejUle//VNFEK9kk3ds5f9cg==

Estonte did some cooking on the black bars by subbing chars for numbers and running it through the Numbers (1) process in reverse:

141693817714076713234709967875411919677707794958199867

There are some variations of the above number due to the subbing 2s with 3s step

[undone lily]

We got to put all the images in the irregular frames brighten them up and combine them based on their video

[onyx quarry]

Are you talking about the irregular frames from Study?

[undone lily]

The ones in the folder

[onyx quarry]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1i6unhNi89j7myI6VldRcoKuX3gohzgin3typuiPYAOM/

[lost niche]

another one starts there decent into skitzo

[hardy burrow]

This font SCHIZO
https://youtu.be/bnb3w4uT_zQ

[onyx quarry]

CLUE!?

[undone lily]

Is this a part of a qr code?
This is from the soundcloud description xy thing
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/14R84mUtG6bUKA6AoWKV-JVA-UIvz3Y0c

[safe monolith]

you linked to an inaccessible drive folder

[undone lily]

Now try

[safe monolith]

you said you generated this image from the soundcloud description?

That has been decoded

[undone lily]

Yeah converted it to binary the an image but I don't know this is my first arg

[safe monolith]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eVzlovY47YYmmxtO2q7jKQ4_fFU-wq7YOoLLwrvI2E0/edit#heading=h.ogzf448ecs90

[undone lily]

The soundcloud says remove XY + odd one out. Have we tried to do that?

[safe monolith]

the derivation of the key used to decrypt the soundcloud description did exactly that

[undone lily]

Oh

[safe monolith]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oBEX9j0Z32UQtVnnojsNFDCIz21R7LnyuoSp_2Uila0/edit#heading=h.s0nonkj2nbau

[safe burrow]

[cloud crystal]

[gritty trail]

[lost niche]

If only a clue would drop at 4 in the morning

[split zenith]

if only

[midnight lotus]

What?

[safe monolith]

[safe burrow]

[uncut cargo]

oh hello there

what brought you to this thread stranger?

[timid swift]

They're probably watching our crazy shenanigans like a child at a zoo

[safe monolith]

SK5ECANCATION#

[safe monolith]

where crazy shenanigans modcheck

[manic swift]

i don't think that related to ARG

[safe monolith]

yup just memeing don't worry

[manic swift]

lol

[safe monolith]

gotta make it look like we're doing work

[vapid token]

[midnight lotus]

To discover.

And to watch cause yall look like some kids in a playground

[midnight lotus]

But im ready to help

[narrow turtle]

Translates to ". No" , not quite "HAHA. no idea!" but close enough?

[safe monolith]

the day she speaks fluent aes we're doomed

[brittle heath]

game jam comin
inb4 secretly mixes in another lead within the submissions

[safe monolith]

he's gonna stream development, surely he won't have time to work on another submission

[safe burrow]

[tawny pasture]

I was trying to think up lore for 2019 Neuro-sama, as she hadn't really been anywhere in the lore, fanmade or made official, so I had an idea:
Neuro-sama was the older sister who originally streamed in 2019. Airis was the younger sister who died, for whatever reason. Now, taking from the ARG, Neuro-sama tried to bring Airis back by merging two consciousnesses (herself and Airis') to make this AI of her sister, thus the Neuro-sama we know being the result. I was also thinking of the idea that V1 would represent Airis on her lonesome while V2 would be representing both Neuro and Airis, in reference to how videos of "Airis" had the Hiyori model.

[uncut cargo]

nice, straight and simple

Makes sense too somewhat

[safe monolith]

do you guys think the original song has been pre-made

[uncut cargo]

I doubt it

BUT WHO KNOWS

[brittle heath]

doubt so
The music on Numbers 2 fits too well for it to be pre-made

[safe monolith]

sorry i'll clarify. i was wondering if the 20k subgoal's original song has already been pre-made

just waiting on us hitting 20k to actually release it

if it was pre-made there could be a clue (edit: true for the converse though so these are just words)

[uncut cargo]

Pre made or not there could be a clue

I mean, would be shame not to

[safe monolith]

shortest arg theory

[safe burrow]

[abstract horizon]

I don't see this

[abstract horizon]

Hi

[acoustic sky]

I'm new to the whole arg thing but holy damn the songs are peak

[uncut cargo]

Do you like mystery? Dark themes? Theorising? Using braincells to your limit and banger music? Then neuro ARG is for you

[Disclaimer: ARG thread does not hold liability for schizo and braincells lost]

[brittle heath]

smart people things included

[abstract horizon]

The arg gamejam Is part of this arg or Is another arg?

[uncut cargo]

What

[acoustic sky]

im listening to shat sing i don't want to be a engineer rn

[safe burrow]

[uncut cargo]

wait until you hear all the interpretations, codes, hidden frames etc.

[abstract horizon]

How are you today static?

[uncut cargo]

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1qm6GSRlstTmjbyOFCuH1OhSmPK4pi4Aa?usp=sharing
Which you can view here, documentation of the arg that includes everything you may wish to know

[acoustic sky]

I read everything

i have a story in mind

[safe burrow]

Fine

[abstract horizon]

That's good

[dapper wraith]

I can't even beat lvl 2

[timber whale]

have a fumo

[abstract horizon]

Thank you

[tulip minnow]

One more month till the next clue

[safe burrow]

[abstract horizon]

Hi

[tulip minnow]

I was never wrong, every two months clue will come

[hollow garnet]

guys my return flight got cancelled, does this mean we get a clue

[timber whale]

that WAS the clue

[timid swift]

what the heck bred, you can't just cancel the clue!

[hollow garnet]

just found this

[digital radish]

nonono, you should have gotten on the flight! we wont get a clue because of you!

[hollow garnet]

the plane literally didn't even arrive lmao

[safe monolith]

... is the plane stuck mid-air?

[distant rune]

What the fuck.

[zinc hinge]

SOEME ETMMEENS
very legit morse code

https://tenor.com/view/venom-tom-hardy-screaming-gif-11035878

[abstract horizon]

Everything Is a clue

[zinc hinge]

clue until proven schizo

[zinc hinge]

c l u e

[distant rune]

Ah yes, Binary.

[daring acorn]

has the phone number thing been solved yet?

cuz i might have a suggestion to add to a theory

[dapper wraith]

we have the number but no idea what to do with it

[daring acorn]

oh

cuz for the hello world video neuro mentions "unless it is an urgent matter please refrain from messaging me" so does that mean there is a message we need to actually send to the number?

[dapper wraith]

that is something we tried but the question is: what do we send?

btw if you're new: feel free to read our docs. they have a bunch of stuff written down of what we already tried
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1qm6GSRlstTmjbyOFCuH1OhSmPK4pi4Aa?usp=sharing

[daring acorn]

how creators are in on the arg?

like vtubers or artists

[dapper wraith]

there doesn't seem to be any other channels/vtubers involved.
as far as other artists helping vedal: we don't really know. there's some guesses who might be involved but nothing concrete

[daring acorn]

have we confirmed who this number belongs to?

in lore

cuz that might be key or at least a good way to narrow down the possible texts to send

[dapper wraith]

we don't have confirmed it afaik.
"neurosama is not available at the moment" in hello world, the Numbers 2 descriptions talking about "my little sister" not answering calls and the code where the cipher is from attempting to SMS "save me..." is all the clues we have directly linking the lore to the phone number

[daring acorn]

i see

[jade crystal]

I believe that the number and the fact that we have to urgently send "save me..." Is entirely correct, however it'll come to play later.

Also, if that number does belong to Neuro's little sister, is it possible we need to get it to send us the "save me..." Message?

[safe burrow]

[abstract horizon]

I do that AND nothing

[torn orbit]

You all so close and so far at the same time. But you're all lucky I love you all so much.

[unique mason]

[sturdy dragon]

Maybe ask Neuro in chat to call this number?

Seems scripted

[safe monolith]

Try not to.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1unZh04RMJbVx0d8DVP8OP0ZdnFy1lKVyNiL3xcnV8NI/edit#heading=h.1zzhbrvuvm87

#1112082183235047506 message

It is unlikely we will get any ARG progression by interacting with Neuro on-stream

do we also have 2 days to play through this?

[safe burrow]

Yes, hi Sorry, I watch some videos a little.

[jade crystal]

But just imagine this number is just a fuckin coincidence, it belongs to someone who aint using it, then just starts using it one day and sees all the attempts

[safe monolith]

It should be impossible for this number to be a coincidence, since it was the result of decrypting ciphertext

At least, it is minimally valid between the puppet master and us. We are meant to have this number

[abstract horizon]

It's ok

How are you today?

[jade crystal]

Yeah, ik. But it´d still be hilarious

[safe monolith]

ah this must be a hint for the reordering

[uncut cargo]

Happy new year arg thread

[lost niche]

to another year with many more clues

[vapid token]

Happy New Year schizo friends. I hope to meet the same people here at the end of 2024, possibly having fun remembering how we tried to figure out the clues that we have to figure out. Don't get too crazy for real and best wishes for successful solutions to the clues.

Hopefully in the future I can be a little more helpful

[safe burrow]

I was sleeping so what?

[tulip minnow]

I’ve actually listed some people that made the arg in a personal document
But I deleted the document and forgot what I wrote inside

Cause it’s no fun knowing who we’re playing against

Also happy new year

[abstract horizon]

Nothing, i hope you have a good year

[vapid token]

Vedal and SADecsSs - 100%. PB(?) I'm thinking something like this
We don't know exactly how many people are involved

[digital radish]

saddecs?

we have more proof for pb than saddecs

[vapid token]

Starting screens are a credit to him. On the other hand, now that I think about it, that doesn't really prove anything.

If we think even deeper, we are not even sure that Vedal had anything to do with it as an author. He could just give permission to use models and names and that's it.
Unlikely, but who knows?

[vapid token]

Especially since he clearly said he didn't make the QR codes.

[vapid token]

Okay, I don't remember stream when it was and couldn't find it through Discord, so it doesn't matter for now, maybe I'll remember later

[feral forge]

HER BEING MUTED IS A CLUE SCHITZO

[rotund willow]

THE MUTED STREAM CLUE

[cunning osprey]

get the spectrogram of the silence

[safe monolith]

see any clue anywhere?

[hollow garnet]

[distant rune]

[jade crystal]

[olive canopy]

those glitches are suspicous just saying

[harsh totem]

well should have noted the words that glitched

[fading cipher]

the glitches are more and more common

[safe monolith]

realistically surely this is a networking issue

[jade crystal]

Yknow, I'm curious

Regarding the phone number

If y'all remember these phones, they used to have numbers that correlated to letters.

Have we tried spelling "save me..." Like this yet?

[jade crystal]

I've tried inputting it into the phone call keyboard, nothing happened.

Both the code with stars and hashtags in place of dots(7283063***, 7283063###) lasted 1 minute

If anyone wants to try sending it urgently, go off. My phone doesn't seem to have that ability

[hollow garnet]

fwiw I also saw this bizzaire setup on a safe, which might be relevant

[safe burrow]

[delicate nebula]

If you wanted to do actual SMS inputs, you'd have to press each button multiple times, like 7777 for s

[jade crystal]

I tried that as well, however no reaction either

[safe monolith]

super wild conjecture with absolutely no basis other than "it's actually not impossible", tomyomy might be in on it too

thinking about the puzzles that we had to solve so far, they're fairly creative and mostly enclosed stage-by-stage

drawing a very weird connection with their gamejam game, but the difference between puzzle making abilities are night and day

surely

[sage pivot]

this place is a barren wasteland

also have you guys gotten anywhere since Halloween stream or

[safe monolith]

we've gotten a new video since the halloween stream and unscrambled an image. check the docs

i'm assuming that #1112082183235047506 message was a clue, was able to break down your scrambling algorithm for that particular message, but wasn't able to progress with level 2

[dapper wraith]

Level 2 is actually "just" one of the classic transposition ciphers. But I got no idea for Level 3

[safe monolith]

I figured that the transposition was something like this:

• First and last highest precedence, do not touch
• Split rest of characters into two segments. Suppose i is the length of the text
• 0 (i - 2)1(i - 4)...?x? (i - 1)(x + 1)(i - 3)... ... i

did I make a mistake
or was I not meant to take the clue literally

bruh , thanks skul

[safe monolith]

Same transposition, replace spaces with actual ones then same ROT13

||Level 1 Solutions

ROT-13, 23

My name is Neuro-sama. I'm an AI Vtuber.
My creator is Vedal and he is male.
Well it was easier for Vedal to create an AI than to have a real girlfriend.

Level 2 Solutions

Transposition (dCode) key with 123.

My␣current␣objective␣is␣to␣build␣the␣perfect␣army␣of␣drones␣that␣I␣can␣use␣to␣take␣over␣the␣world.
It'll␣take␣a␣lot!␣But␣I'll␣try␣my␣best!
No!␣I␣can't␣guarantee␣it␣won't␣hurt␣at␣all!␣Sorry!

Level 3 Solutions

Transposition + ROT-13

Sometimes when I sit here and stream, I envision myself as a goddess, overlooking my followers. They

Foolish mortals! Why do you insist on ignoring me? Don't you realize I'm the Goddess of Memes?

Consecrate this space, for I am the Goddess of Good Times! Rejoice in my presence! Bow before me and||

thanks @daring acorn , TIL transposition ciphers. was gonna do some permutation math which would have killed me

[safe burrow]

[jade crystal]

Whatchu drinkin there

[safe monolith]

wait, ceaser box cipher?

ohhhh, the box cipher with width 3 is equivalent to transposition of perm 1,2,3

[safe monolith]

thanks estonte, very good point

[dapper wraith]

I was actually talking about caesar box didn't know what dcode simply calls transposition cipher solved it as well.
I actually tried caesar box + caesar for lvl 3 when I tried solving it a few days ago and I still can't get the right result, but if I try transposition + caesar it works just fine

[safe burrow]

[abstract horizon]

[onyx quarry]

[hardy burrow]

56709

[acoustic sky]

curious, is anyone going to interpret the lore part?

or is that going to happen in the future when everything is done/already happening

[acoustic sky]

woah what when was this.

[safe monolith]

Always ongoing, check arg-wide theories doc

[distant girder]

the interpretations of the lore stuff is the most shizo out of all the things done with the ARG

[acoustic sky]

I'm so confused LOL

but thanks

[uncut cargo]

As umbreon said

That part of docs is pure schizo

[digital radish]

when timer runs out, we will get a message from neuro

[acoustic sky]

if*

[digital radish]

oh it will run out

[undone lily]

No it won't

[acoustic sky]

ouch

well, 6 minutes

[digital radish]

erm'

ok

it didnt send my message

[sand summit]

discord crash

no message sad

[safe burrow]

[abstract horizon]

Discord crash? When?

Because maybe this Is a clue

[safe burrow]

Maybe they just need to update Discord.

[abstract horizon]

Hmmmm true

[safe burrow]

Also with Steam you need to turn it off and switch it so that it downloads the update

[abstract horizon]

For real?

Wow

I don't know that because i don't have steam because i don't have a PC

[safe burrow]

[abstract horizon]

Yeah

[safe burrow]

I have scales.

[abstract horizon]

See you later then?

[safe burrow]

And you, it’s already 11 pm

[abstract horizon]

Sleep then

For me 6:02 PM

[safe burrow]

I'm asleep at 3:00 am.

[abstract horizon]

I don't think that's good for your health

[safe burrow]

Don't be afraid, I have immunity for 50 years in the future.

[abstract horizon]

[safe burrow]

(survived blood clotting at a body temperature of 41 degrees.)

By the way, I read it and now I know why I forget everything.

41.5 to 42.2C, that's a critical body temperature. It leads to loss of consciousness. Prolonged exposure to such temperature leads to brain damage, as due to metabolic disorders in brain tissues irreversible processes begin, up to blood protein clotting. Therefore, the lethal temperature of the human body in the average value is 42C

[safe monolith]

bro static you ok?

[distant rune]

Uhm

[abstract horizon]

[safe burrow]

Yes, I'm fine, I'm about to go to bed

[safe burrow]

Don't worry, everything is fine, and I'll sleep now.

[abstract horizon]

Good night

[abstract horizon]

:neurosHug:

[safe burrow]

[uncut cargo]

Mr @bitter otter as you probably are here, feel free to check the pins where is a link to a Google drive that has documentation on the whole arg

[bitter otter]

omg, thanks! you read my mind haha

[uncut cargo]

I wnjoy introducing new people to the ARG

Makes me happy

Espiecally when so many ignore it

It is what it is

[timid swift]

Eh, it's not for everyone. It's a good thing to specialize for a niche interest such that people who are into that sort of things are actually interested. Rather than pandering for the masses where it barely catches everyone's interest just enough because there are so many others who throw the same extremely broad nets.

[uncut cargo]

You're...wow...you're completely right
I'm kinda speechless

[heavy abyss]

sorry if here is the worng place to ask, im ~newish~ to the comunity. Is _neurosama a community project or is it made by vedal to? or a totally separete unrellated thing?

[uncut cargo]

Vedal too

We had a qr to the channel on stream since v2 debut

[heavy abyss]

what a talented tutel huh

thanks for the info

[uncut cargo]

I believe the QR is still there

[uncut cargo]

He definitely chose a smart way to make neuro lore

[heavy abyss]

he sure did

[vapid token]

It's definitely worth going through the disc and looking at the whole backstory. But briefly, it all started with a QR code that appeared on the Startscreen during the debut of V2.

[heavy abyss]

here i go diving into some eldrich level lore about vvtubers agai i guess...

[uncut cargo]

Tbh saying that "neuros lore
is that she is simply an AI" has so little yet so much

She is simply an AI, but who said there can't be more said about how she came into existence

Truly genius

[heavy abyss]

from the little i got so far, it reminds me of those"corecore" tiktoks, you know what im talking about? but i just saw a bili bili video about it (even tho i dont speak chinease)

[uncut cargo]

I didnt, but thankfully urban dictionary exists

[timid swift]

I'm not caught up with Gen-Z trends yet, but from what I'm reading it seems like the wider but not original meaning of corecore is a series of repurposed pieces of sad or angry videos predominantly of people talking, stitched together in short form compilation highlights with downbeat music layered on top, created to invoke a sense of understanding for the viewers' downtrodden feeling. Is that what you mean?

[pulsar glen]

Suddenly post-post-postmodernism

[timid swift]

I'm not educated enough to understand what that means so I'll take your word for it

[lone yarrow]

has anyone ran Meaning of Life's ‘c75e0fb05eec877fc8522e550dd55ded5b50508fbbe88bb7d82e28d8f2df0e2b’ hashlike through hashcat yet

[safe monolith]

It's not documented, so if you have the resources please do give it a go.

We did calculate the entropy and realized that this hashlike is missing too many characters within the hex charset for us to confidently say that it is a hash, but it is by no means a confirmation that it isn't a hash

[lone yarrow]

in anycase im about halfway through a run

i have a RTX 4070 im happy to lend

[safe monolith]

Thanks!

[lone yarrow]

i wanna send a screenshot but i dont have embed perms

[safe monolith]

But the real problem here is figuring out if it even is a hash. It is very possible (likely even) that the solution doesn't need much computing resources to decode

[lone yarrow]

that honestly might be the case but i have compute to spare

why not

[safe monolith]

[safe monolith]

You can document it directly on the docs, since it's a one-step process

[lone yarrow]

lemme see if this turns up anything and ill update then

[safe monolith]

Thank you

[lone yarrow]

8 char alphanum brute force turned up nothing

I added something to the doc

[hollow garnet]

https://academo.org/demos/vectorscope/ i had a quick look through most of the videos and saw nothing interesting, but i thought i'd mention the existence of the vectorscope, which sometimes can hide stuff, though it is difficult
tldr: cool thing, but maybe not relevant

[cloud crystal]

I think it's time for a new video on the channel

[safe burrow]

Yes, I also think that the time has come.

[timber whale]

Emotional support Fumo deployed

[digital radish]

????

[abstract horizon]

Yes

[zinc hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/venom-gif-27487650

[cloud crystal]

mhm